Fact or fiction: Men don’t mind being single

2CPTG© - "that dude from da innanet"

November 23rd, 2010
8:35 am

G’morning….

truth be told, naw, we don’t mind being single, but seriously, who wants to be single? If we are single, we just deal with it, and make it work for us…

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
8:44 am

Morning Peoples,
Morning 2C…
i have only met one or two guys who claim the “i hate being alone” gene, ime for the most part they are perfectly content with playing the field for as long as possible (provided they havent met actual WIFE material, not gf but someone they know they want to marry). one of my best friends right now, has been dating this girl for something like 4 or 5 years, they bought a house together last year, just had a baby about 2 weeks ago, and he tells me that if he were to get married she’d be the one, but he’s also still accepting of one night stands on other “options” along the way. makes me wonder what has to happen for themt o grow out of it, lol

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
8:45 am

Morning, morning, g’morning….

I have met plenty of dudes who claim to not have an issue being single but at the same time, I believe they have their days where they wish they had time with that ’someone special’. At same token, I’ve met a few men that stated they were looking for something more solid as far as a relationship, marriage, family etc…

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
8:46 am

this is false

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
8:48 am

Man was not made to be alone. Even when the allure of new vajay is there, we still want our “dime piece” period!!!…Any man saying otherwise is not telling the truth

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
8:55 am

Good topic WiseDiva.

I’ll share my thoughts while I have a few minutes.

I think with men as well as women it’s merely a desire or preference.

I may have met one or two men in my life that seemed more interested in being in a relationship than they were in the women themselves.

While being single is okay many just want to be in a relationship. Not so much as need to be but want to be and there is nothing wrong with that. To want companionship is actually normal.

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
8:57 am

Rell – I think that’s demonstrated when men who even had several concubines, also maintain that ONE special chick….

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
8:58 am

Good Morning All,

Okay last day at work this week and I am gonna try try try to get one good day of blogging in..

I have met both of these guys..the guy who is newly divorced and ready to pick up where he left off..cause as he state..”I don’t like being alone..”(him I found a bit creepy)

But I also know the guys who have been so wounded from the divorce/relationship that they have become either the paranoid hermit who is scared to come out for fear of actually having a good time to the bitter dude still singing the someone done done somebody wrong song. I think that this is not a fact or fiction thing more a doing what works for you. For Real is not the first guy I ran across who says I don’t want a relationship..I just want to do the rabbit dance on occasion and will admit that anytime he gets deep and involve he purposely mess it up..(I think there is something deeper going on there..but that’s a whole other Oprah..)

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
9:00 am

Slim, I agree with you.

We all have our days when even just for a second we wish we had the opposite.

Some days when I am just whipped I for a second may think if I was single with no kids I can just do XYZ.

When I was single some days I was more than okay with it but others I desired a relationship. It’s normal.

And like Rell has stated while many will be alone, man and woman by nature are not meant to be alone. Hence the desire for each other. Or at least some type of companionship.

You often here of people have pets for companions. That’s because our make up is wire to desire companionship.

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
9:06 am

Hey Kym. Yeah I said I will chat with yall for a few while I wait for my men to return.

We are driving up to Cleveland today. We were supposed to be leaving at 9:30 but the husband and the boy left about 15 minutes ago to go to his office and then to fill up the truck. The marido going to close up the office for the rest of the week. He decided last night that he would just give everyone the rest of the week off so he is going in this morning to close all loose ends and tell ‘em all to go home.

We have an 11 hours drive ahead of us so I hope they aren’t gone too long. Everything is packed and loaded on the truck. When they get back it’s just a matter of getting Liz in strapped in her seat and we are off.

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
9:09 am

@slim..again its a market for that dude…the reason why men have several women..is because they have poor chick management skills…thats why…lying to females does not make you a player..it just makes you a fraud…true players..play the game fair…there is honesty in it. So ladies proceed with cautions when dudes are “dating”…that means his management skills are lackluster and your relationship and life will reflect it if you chose to go with that dude

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
9:11 am

@Raqi..Long drive…is right..but I kind of like those trips..if I am not driving..if I am driving then I need a collection of my best CD’s so I can ride and dance all the way in. Safe travels.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:17 am

Fact or fiction: Men don’t mind being single

Fact I say!!!!! How many guys do you know up to 45 (some even older) that have a steady rotation of women when they want. They say they wouldn’t mind getting married but at the same time, they aren’t taking steps to make it happen while they have their steady rotation going.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:18 am

Blue: I only have met one dude that gives the I hate being single woe me speech. I wanna shake him and yell out if he didn’t have unrealistic expectations he would be married by now-Oh, I’m talking about LTR dude

Dan - simply...Superior

November 23rd, 2010
9:18 am

@Rell

I’m with you

Never made sense to lie to a chick about “dating” especially after the age of 18.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:18 am

I mean LDR dude

Delight23

November 23rd, 2010
9:20 am

Bom dia peoples!! Been lurking. Great topic. BUT the headline reads “Fact or fiction: Men don’t mind being single,” followed by “Ladies, has a man ever told you that he doesn’t mind being single? Do you meet men who actively seek a relationship and don’t mind admitting it?”

When will we allow men to actually answer/address issues concerning them from their perspective? I don’t want a woman’s perspective on whether or not men mind being single.

Lawd, we women just talk too much sometimes. Asking and answering our own questions.

MEN PLEASE CHIME IN.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:20 am

“….I have met both of these guys..the guy who is newly divorced and ready to pick up where he left off..cause as he state..”I don’t like being alone..”(him I found a bit creepy) …..”

Newly divorced you kinda have to avoid like the plague. They are in rebound mode probably still hurting.
Give them at least a 1 yr minimum probationary period before they can play in the sandbox again

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
9:31 am

How many guys do you know up to 45 (some even older) that have a steady rotation of women when they wan

- yea that goes on..but like my uncle said when he was dying…if he could do it all over again he would have gotten married..he was one of those..it will not happen to me types…well it happen and he was alone when he died…no woman was there…and he had several…so short term..yea its fun…long term…not so much….i mean after awhile you are just a “milk delivery guy”….spinning your wheels….@38 i am pass that mentality truthfully…i just need one and i am cool….

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
9:31 am

@Kym – last day of the work week…same here – cant quite seem to focus, thinking of lounging in bed all day catching up on my CSI….
@Raqi – have a safe trip!
@Rell – poor chick management skills – ok that made me laugh
@i am – yeah, same here. dude singing the “all by myself” song, made me want to slap him, you dont want to be alone, then work on not being alone. if you’ve decided you need some time to get your mind right, then do that. make a decision already….

abc

November 23rd, 2010
9:33 am

Personally, I didn’t mind being single, and I thought dating was kind of a drag. I had pretty much decided to stay single, and I was pretty happy and content with it. It was refreshing, really.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:35 am

Rell: I think that when pros outweigh the cons of being with someone that’s when guys may be open to settling down
but I understand why guys don’t jump at the idea when they can get
1) dinner or any meal cooked from any women
2) sex from many women
3) clothes bought by women
4) vacation trips paid by women
5) sometimes cars bought by women
6) a place to live with a woman…
all of this done without marriage.

I’ve read that some guys feel that marriage is too risky and investment with no ROI

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:36 am

random : Oh wow I am craving a Ceasar salad from Figo

~~No I am not pregnant unless it is divine intervention and right now, I am very low on the man’s totem pole~~

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
9:37 am

Kym, I was really hoping we could be there by 9pm tonight but that is not going to happen. I would have been okay with us leaving at 6am this morning and getting up there around 6pm but since I am not the one doing the driving I can’t complain. My marido says he is going to try to go the distance and only stop once so he needed to sleep to at least 7am.

It’s going to be a good ride with the boy tagging along. Good family time. I may let him sit in front with Mase while Liz and I sit in the back watch movies on the dvd player or take a nap or two.

Thanks for safe wishes. We always need those.

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
9:37 am

Thanks, blue.

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
9:37 am

@blue…its true..how many “players” get caught daily…i mean its because of those “players” we have site like dontdatehimgirl.com….again if you dealing with more than one woman on falsehoods…you have poor management skills…because most dudes with several women are just slaves to the P..period!..they not getting anything from these women..the women are not adding any real value to there life..trust.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:39 am

Blue: what pisses me off most is that I could easily marry this dude and he’s open to the idea but it would all have to be on his terms.
I am so not cool with that
His terms:
1) I would have to move to his state
2) I would have to sell or rent out my townhome
3) I would have to find daycare for my son
4) I would have to find a job

What does he get? His life won’t in the least bit disruptive.
If I didn’t have a child it would be a different story but I wonder how many guys understand what it mean to take the WHOLE package when you involve yourself with a woman that has kid(s)

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
9:40 am

lol@ROI…ok thats one train of thought. If you are going for those things..cool…best job i had ever held…step-dad…trumps all the little things ..but thats just me

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:44 am

“……its true..how many “players” get caught daily…i mean its because of those “players” we have site like dontdatehimgirl.com……”

This guy that I briefly dated in college is on that site
now there were rumors he had a kid but I didn’t know it was true till I saw his pic on that site on blast.
It gets worse. Not only did his baby mamma put him on that site, she created her own website dedicated to how much of a loser he is.
Turns out that he assaulted a chick in grad school and baby mamma found out about it and put that on the site as well
WOW is all I can say. I wonder why he has not sued her for defammation of character but if she has court documents, etc to back up her claims then maybe it’s not a lie
WOW! and to think- that was my homeboy in college and after college we went on like maybe a few dates

Trevor0529

November 23rd, 2010
9:44 am

I’ve read that some guys feel that marriage is too risky and investment with no ROI

Really?!?!? WTH!!

bigdawg

November 23rd, 2010
9:44 am

Okay, here’s a guy’s perspective: I got married at 37, had two kids,caught my wife cheating when I was 43, divorced at 44, married a really good friend w/in a year (big mistake – blew up w/in eight months) and have had two relationships since then, but none in the past 20 months.
I’d love to find a great lady, but I wrestle all the time as to whether I’ll marry again.
(P.S. Every desirable lady I meet is either married or otherwise involved – emphasis on “desirable!”

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:45 am

I hope to GOD I don’t find anyone else I know on that site.
That brings dating to an all time low

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:46 am

“…caught my wife cheating when I was 43….”

Can someone please explain to me why women do this? I know why guys do this but why men?
It has been my dream to get married since I was a little girl and I am ever blessed with the opportunity, I will not fugg it up and do something like that.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:47 am

“…best job i had ever held…step-dad…trumps all the little things ..but thats just me….”

That’s awesome!

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:48 am

Yeah Trevor: I heard that guys don’t feel it’s a good ROI because

they state the sex stops, the wife nags, and if divorce happens she’s gonna take the dude to the cleaners.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:50 am

oh and Trevor: Some guys don’t like it when the wife gains an exorbant amount of weight that she can’t lose.

There, I said it!

Trevor0529

November 23rd, 2010
9:51 am

Good Morning,

My divorce will be final shortly so I will be in the group of men who are newly divorced out there. However, I am not looking to fill the void of my STBX. I enjoy being single for now. I enjoy the freedom I have to do things I choose to do. Would I love to be married again? Absolutely. But only if and when the right woman comes along. Until then, I will enjoy what life has to offer.

bigdawg

November 23rd, 2010
9:52 am

Personally, I believe marriage should be a series of five-year renewable contracts! People DO grow apart. A recent article stated that 40 percent of Americans believe marriage is obsolete – and I tend to agree. I’m glad as hell to have my children. They are my reason for living. But, for a lot of folks for a lot of reasons, marriage just doesn’t work!

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:53 am

what is stbx?

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
9:54 am

@Rell – dontdatehimgirl.com whoa…ok. amazes me how vindictvie some people will be, he did you wrong got it…i cant be bothered to raise my blood pressure that much, building a website and all – waayy more commitmant than i would wnat to claim lol. i would agree tho, that for the most part its about the sex, cause anything of sustaining value would imo, make you straighten out. but there is truth to being able to get sex anywhere….guys like that are why theres the website and why so many women jump on the men are dogs bandwagon…
@i am – there do seem to be plenty out there that dont seem to get the idea of compromise, and im with you, in that scenario seems as if he isnt dealing with any isruption, but will turn your life upside down. sigh, its the price you pay for the privilege to be with him
I wonder how many guys understand what it mean to take the WHOLE package when you involve yourself with a woman that has kid(s) – we are >>>here<<< on that one. had those same issues with mr.blue, and amazingly still do at times…

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:55 am

I would love to get married but at this late in the game, I’m just going to accept the fact that it may not be in my cards.
I am very very grateful I at least have my son
~~where is Stanly so he can here me say I’m looking into getting cats. Maybe six of them~~

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:57 am

Blue: I understand the chick is hurt because the guy skipped out on the child and didn’t pay support. I get that part.
But by her building the website- makes her just as certifiable!

Jeff

November 23rd, 2010
9:58 am

I don’t mind being single. The occasional loneliness is easy compared to the loneliness that occurs when you’re in an unhappy relationship.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:58 am

The sweetest revenge you could ever get on anybody is showing you don’t care about them and doing everything you can to make yourself a better person and improving your life.

Trevor0529

November 23rd, 2010
9:59 am

I heard that guys don’t feel it’s a good ROI because they state the sex stops, the wife nags, and if divorce happens she’s gonna take the dude to the cleaners. Some guys don’t like it when the wife gains an exorbant amount of weight that she can’t lose.

Ok. From my viewpoint, all of this sounds like a lot of fear coming from some men about marriage. They need to just face their fear about marriage. There is absolutely nothing wrong with marriage. It is the person you choose to marry is the problem. Just my thought.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
9:59 am

now the crappy part of being single: not feeding my libido

Trevor0529

November 23rd, 2010
9:59 am

STBX – soon to be ex.

Sassy Me..Onward and Upward :-)

November 23rd, 2010
10:00 am

thats why…lying to females does not make you a player..it just makes you a fraud…true players..play the game fair…there is honesty in it. So ladies proceed with cautions when dudes are “dating”…that means his management skills are lackluster and your relationship and life will reflect it if you chose to go with that dude

Worth repeating. It’s nice to hear that from a male’s perspective…that’s what’s up. If there was more honesty and truth involved from the beginning alot of drama wouldn’t happen. Granted some women do it anyway only to get burned in the end. When a man lies to a woman he takes away her choice as to whether she wants to be a part of his rotation or not….some would never do that if given the choice…so just be upfront.

bigdawg

November 23rd, 2010
10:01 am

Blue: I prefer to date women with children. They understand when “something” comes up.

And about building that website: If that guy is that much of a loser, he doesn’t give a rat’s ass that his ex has created that website…it’ll only lead to the ex-wife getting an ulcer!

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:01 am

Maybe it’s fear but as a woman, when I hear how some women nag, say they are taking him to the cleaner in the event of divorce, stop sleeping with him, etc…. with all that going on how does that ease a guy’s fear?

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:02 am

Big Dawg: he cares. On her website he emailed her from his company cussing her out. She forwarded that email to his boss.
I can’t believe she did that. Now she’s messsing with the man’s career.

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
10:02 am

Fear is a place that has not yet discovered love. (Sanaya Roman)

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:03 am

I mean she posted the email on her website

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
10:04 am

Soon to be ex ??

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:04 am

Fear: Fugg everything and run

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:05 am

“thats why…lying to females does not make you a player..it just makes you a fraud…true players..play the game fair…there is honesty in it. So ladies proceed with cautions when dudes are “dating”…that means his management skills are lackluster and your relationship and life will reflect it if you chose to go with that dude
…”

Game recognize Game

Simple Man!!! Checkin In While On Vacation!!!!

November 23rd, 2010
10:07 am

Morning Folks!!!!

Being Single is agift from the gods provided that one is accepting of it and makes no pretense about being so…….

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:08 am

“…..Blue: I prefer to date women with children. They understand when “something” comes up…..”

As a single mom, I have become a lot more patient, kinder, and understanding compared to how I was before my son.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:08 am

“…..Being Single is agift from the gods provided that one is accepting of it and makes no pretense about being so……….”

See, my example as why men like being single.

Sassy Me..Onward and Upward :-)

November 23rd, 2010
10:08 am

dontdatehimgirl.com whoa…ok. amazes me how vindictvie some people will be

blue you’d be surprised. Whomever coined the phrase “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”, knew the full weight of an angry womans wrath and the lengths one would go to assuage their anger/hurt/p.issedivity… One of our bloggers hipped us to that site some time ago….ahh the memories

Trevor0529

November 23rd, 2010
10:12 am

@Slim, soon to be ex-wife..

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
10:19 am

random: please explain tome why my payroll just made me set a sitekey, 6, count em 6 security questions and a passcode…..

ok, probably was a good thing considering identity theft and all that, but d@mn…i just wanted to print see my paystub….

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:23 am

Sassy: LOL I was the blogger that hipped you all to the site!

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
10:23 am

Happy & safe trails, Raqita & family!

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
10:23 am

@bigdawg – Blue: I prefer to date women with children. They understand when “something” comes up. – yeah, moms, by default, must learn more patience. and its needed when the “i shouldnt have to deal with him (the daddy)” cr@p comes up. its a package deal people, and for us who’s baby daddys are still hanging around, thats part of the package…
@Simple Man – Norm!!!! (figured should just stick with a classic, screaming “Simple!!!” just didnt have a ring to it)
@Sassy – oh yeah that statement is ooh so true, have had some women scare with me how elaborate and detailed their plans were for payback on some dude…me, i like to keep things simple, and figuring out how to stalk you and gaslight you without getting arrested just complicates things for me lol

i'm swiss™ (but you can call me Mr. Goodnight)

November 23rd, 2010
10:26 am

“but I understand why guys don’t jump at the idea when they can get
1) dinner or any meal cooked from any women
2) sex from many women
3) clothes bought by women
4) vacation trips paid by women
5) sometimes cars bought by women
6) a place to live with a woman…
all of this done without marriage.”

Um… to borrow a phrase from… well, I don’t remember, actually…

“Where they do that at???”

D@mn… Apparently I was going about dating all wrong…

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
10:32 am

figuring out how to stalk you and gaslight you without getting arrested just complicates things for me

I mean to me I’m like why put so much energy into gettin some get back? It may make you feel better but it also makes you look like a fool and at some point one would have to think/wonder…”Is all of this REALLY worth it”…is it?

I am ohh okay I didn’t know it was you that mentioned the site…could’ve sworn it was another blogger using one of her many aliases….I digress.

abc

November 23rd, 2010
10:33 am

As far as ROI goes, most chicks don’t bring much to the table — not speaking financially here, as I think that any man that concerns himself with a woman’s finances is either a wimp or can’t afford a woman — I’m talking about what she can bring that improves the way of life.

Chicks bring a lot of unnecessary drama. Mendacity is a way of life for them. They can easily get quite bossy, wanting everything their own way, not allowing a man to lead. It’s a hassle, and I’d gotten to where I was quite happy to do without all that.

That is, except for my girl. There are exceptions to everything. She’s still a female, for sure, but she brings intangible value that enhances the quality of our lives, and it makes it worth it.

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
10:37 am

All that needed was a violin concerto playing in the background…

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
10:38 am

So has the woman bashing began or did we keep it light and happy? I raided the fridge for holiday lunch leftovers.

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
10:38 am

‘Fact or fiction: Men don’t mind being single’

Men, where are yall??? It’s sort of like double dutching…you just have to sort of jump right on in and goooooooo.

Off-topic: i think the plague is hitting me. I have a sick co-worker to my right AND to my left. Now I’m sneezing like crazy, my head is beginning to feel tight and I seriously need a roll of tissue at my desk because now here comes the sniffles!!! Why, why, why, why. I do not want to spend my Thanksgiving eating great food only to NOT be able to actually taste it.

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
10:39 am

So am I the only one cooking (well not everything) for Turkey Day? I must say I am a bit stressed about making my first ham.

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
10:39 am

Morning All!

I’ve observed that quite a few widowed men will be quick to marry again because they are used to that companionship. A lot of the times they will remarry quicker than a divorced guy.

It’s nothing worse than a bitter divorced man though.

That’s all I have today on the subject. Can’t speak for men, just what I’ve observed over the years.

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
10:43 am

Kym – I am making a few sides. Others are bringing dishes.

Looks like the royals are not wasting any time with that wedding. They have set a date, April 29 at Westminster Abbey. A spokesperson said they are over the moon. That’s a wonderful love story.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:44 am

My alias:
I am whatever you say I am
I am
Whatever

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
10:45 am

@kimmie..I saw that!! I am so proud of Prince William and Kate..okay what will be her title after they marry?

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:46 am

“…I’ve observed that quite a few widowed men will be quick to marry again because they are used to that companionship. A lot of the times they will remarry quicker than a divorced guy…..”

Mental note to self: Self, look for funerals and wakes to scope out newly single dudes

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
10:46 am

@Sassy – yeah i like to avoid the whole looking like a fool thing. besides when you start acting crazy and all he!! bent on revenge, then he can walk around telling everyone how crazy you are and he’d be right!! cant let him have the satisfaction lol.
@Kym – i have gotten to teh point with holidays where ive told them i’ll cook Thanksgiving or Christmas, not both lol!! they’d gotten too spoiled!!! lmao

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
10:47 am

So has the woman bashing began or did we keep it light and happy?

Not really…I’m sure we’ve got a dejected Bitter Bobby lurking/moping around somewhere…

Slim if you start treating it now you may be alright…if you’re into Thera-flu that’ll knock the sniffles right outta ya…and you’ll get some good rest for sure b/c it also help with that,too. Hope you feel better.

I’ve observed that quite a few widowed men will be quick to marry again because they are used to that companionship. A lot of the times they will remarry quicker than a divorced guy.

I wonder how long those relationships last?

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
10:48 am

“…@kimmie..I saw that!! I am so proud of Prince William and Kate..okay what will be her title after they marry?….”

Her title: I’m rich Beotch I’m real big time!

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
10:49 am

@kimmie I have sweet potato pies, ham, and dressing and gravy duties…but I will have assistance from my elders on the dressing.

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
10:51 am

Chicks bring a lot of unnecessary drama. Mendacity is a way of life for them. They can easily get quite bossy, wanting everything their own way, not allowing a man to lead. It’s a hassle, and I’d gotten to where I was quite happy to do without all that.

^^^perfect example of having poor chick management skills….

What you WANT is irrelevant, what you’ve CHOSEN is at hand. (Spock, Star Trek)

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
10:51 am

Kym – I have seen a few articles talking about that. I’ve seen HRH Katherine Princess of Wales thrown around.

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
10:52 am

Kym and kimmie, I am not cooking for Turkey Day but sister has warned me that my dad’s wife is a modern turkey day cooker. They had turkey day with them one year and she says it’s very ‘fancy’. Not your usual eat-til-you-are-stuffed fest. LOL No mashed potatoes, no dressing, no turnip green, etc. She warned me to cook here at home so my family will have what they know thanksgiving to be when we get back but I told her we will just go to her house Friday for a remix of this year’s turkey day.

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
10:53 am

Kym – You’ll see, baked ham is easy, in fact, much easier than turkey.

Chuck Sheen

November 23rd, 2010
10:54 am

Being single is incredible. If you’re a man and that isn’t the case you’re a wuss. Grow a pair

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
10:55 am

Raqi – It might be nice to have a change in menu. I know with T-day and Christmas and all these office parties and other get-togethers in between, I get sick of the usual fare. As long as it’s good, I don’t mind fancy once in awhile.

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
10:55 am

Sassy – been pumping Airborne this morning so I hope that helps combat it before it really gets going.

abc

November 23rd, 2010
10:57 am

‘Chick Management Skills’ is a euphemism for bullsheot, I suppose. If it takes all that, it isn’t worth it. If they bring something that makes it worth it, fine; if not, I’m not one to ‘manage’ them.

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
10:57 am

@kimmie. I have the brown sugar and the customary six pack of coca-cola to pour over it..but this thing is just huge!..

@Raqi..I thought you were on the road…I am not sure I am with the modern day turkey folks..holidays are for family, over eating, taking long naps while watching football, occassional disagreements over cards, kids running(hopefully outside) and then at midnight off to shop for bargains you don’t need but the prices are so cheap how could you just leave them in the store?…LOL

single still

November 23rd, 2010
11:00 am

I’m 45 and have never been married. I’ve had some great long term relationships that never evolved towards marriage. Many of my friends are married and for the most part seem rather miserable. If I could point to a few examples of married couples that seem genuinely good together, I might consider taking the plunge. As it is now, I still enjoy being single.

Dan - simply...Superior

November 23rd, 2010
11:01 am

@abc

“affording a woman” and “not allowing a man to lead” are along the same lines of foolish thinking – I expect better of you.

Affording “a woman” is affording her the lifestyle that you want to share with her (as your noted gifts to your girl have suggested). But it’s also affording the life you plan to build together, and unless you’re – the nebulous you- getting money like that, that is getting harder each day.

Also, “letting a man lead” the single silliest phrase in the ethos.

I lead, she follows, or not. But to ride on this train, I’m the conductor. She can’t let me do nothing..

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
11:02 am

kimmie, I look forward to this time of the year because of the traditional turkey day and Christmas menus. Other than the veggies my holiday meals are usually stuff that I don’t make throughout the year.

My sis says my dad’s wife has Cornish hens, stuffing that is more loose and coarse than how we normally make dressing, cranberry green beans…pretty much stuff my guys probably will not eat much of.

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
11:03 am

Slim it should…so long as you start with some kind of defense you should be good. Like granny used to say..don’t let da sickness take holt…can’t wait to see her

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
11:03 am

Kym – Shake on some ground clove to set that ham off. I sometimes add a can of crushed pineapple too, that’s a nice touch.

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
11:04 am

Kym, not yet. He claims to be 30 minutes away. I knew he could not go to the office and come right back. When I called the boy said they were getting gas but they are still in Marietta.

We probably will not get to Cleveland until tomorrow. Leaving this late we will more than likely get a hotel room tonight and start again in the morning.

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
11:05 am

@Rell – What you WANT is irrelevant, what you’ve CHOSEN is at hand. (Spock, Star Trek) – i like this one…so many life lessons to be learned from Star Trek….lol
@Kym – brown sugar and a six pack of coke??? never heard of that lol. we always use pineapple juice and a little brown sugar. works nicely….

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
11:06 am

Raqi – Okay, I could actually deal with the cornish hens cause my aunt hooked up some of those one Christmas recently, but the “dressing” has gotta be right! And the beans too!

Dan - simply...Superior

November 23rd, 2010
11:06 am

@Raqi

Safe travels….

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
11:08 am

Kym, exactly on that statement of what holidays are. LOL

My guys like mashed potatoes, dressing, turkey all covered in gravy. Green beans cooked with hamhocks. Macaroni and cheese. All the stuff that is not good for you but you get a pass for the holidays.

I am looking forward to watching Family Feud with my dad. Every day I talk to him he has either just finished watching it or is getting ready to watch it. I am going to make sure I watch it with him at least once while we are there.

lovelyliz

November 23rd, 2010
11:09 am

Men don’t mind being single as long as they can hook-up at will.

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
11:10 am

kimmie, yep. I have done cornish hens so that’s fine but that other stuff…my sis describes it as stuff you have wine with instead of sweet tea. We like sweet tea turkey days.

Thanks, Dan. Hopefully we will actually be on the road by 11:30. or at least pulling out the driveway. LOL

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
11:10 am

Sassy – speaking of grannies, I think I’ll miss her wrath this Thanksgiving because I’ll be with my dad’s side of the family this year instead. When granny gets to that bottle of wine, you betta be prepared for her diarrhea of the mouth that is soon to follow. When you’re 70+ years old, you get a free pass to say whatever comes to mind and there isn’t a dayum thang anybody can do about it. lol

Soon to be single

November 23rd, 2010
11:11 am

I am in the process of getting divorced. I’m in my mid-50s. After what I’ve experienced for quite a while, I plan to remain single. I have no problem living the solitary life. It has been a total nightmare for the past few years and I’m looking forward to just having me and the dog around.

abc

November 23rd, 2010
11:13 am

Women can easily circumvent a man’s leadership, Dan. Once married and a woman refuses to allow leadership, it’s a tough gig.

Liz, anyone can ‘hook up at will’. All you have to do is want to, and it’ll happen, unless there are some kind of personal deficiencies.

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
11:14 am

@Raqi – we started doiong the hens along wth the turkey a few years ago. When the midgets got to the table i pulled out the tray of hens, and put one on each of their plates like they had their own turkey, they loved it! now of course the first year they did kinda go caveman style, the little one just grabbed it like a muffin and took a bite out of the side, but those end up being those memories (and photos) you love…so now hens have morphed into tradition lol

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
11:18 am

Yeah that hen stuff not gonna work for our group..we have fried and smoked turkey coming. String beans, collards, black eyed peas, we have a variety of cakes and drinks and of course there will be sweet tea.

Ezra

November 23rd, 2010
11:18 am

Lovelyliz is right! Why buy the well when you can drink the water at will. Hmmm…is that a hit on the guy or the gal? Too many women with kids had their chance at love and now want the man to behave like nothing has happened. Women with kids should have a different approach to men than women without kids and vise versa.

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
11:19 am

LOL Blue, yeah you gotta love those times that make happy memories.

Now they are calling asking what I want for lunch…they are stopping to get lunch. If they will just get on back here we can get lunch before we get on the interstate. At least we will be on our way.

DJ Sniper

November 23rd, 2010
11:19 am

When I was single, I had no issues at all. There was a point where I really wasn’t looking to get married at all and I had no problems whatsoever.

Now, even though my marriage is pretty good, I can totally understand why some men are completely gun shy about taking the plunge. There are many many men out here who have gotten anally raped by their ex during a divorce, and contrary to what a lot of people think, the divorce wasn’t due to him being a trifling SOB. Some women will just up and decide that “they aren’t happy anymore” and hit the guy with divorce papers out of the blue. Next thing you know, the guy is getting kicked out of the home that he pays for, he gets told when, where, and how long he can see his kids, etc etc. Yea, I can see why some men don’t get married.

Last, but not least, alimony needs to be abolished. In the case of a divorce where kids are involved, I’m all for making sure the kids are taken care of, but that whole deal about continuing to finance a lifestyle of a person that you are no longer involved with is for the birds.

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
11:22 am

When granny gets to that bottle of wine, you betta be prepared for her diarrhea of the mouth that is soon to follow. When you’re 70+ years old, you get a free pass to say whatever comes to mind and there isn’t a dayum thang anybody can do about it.

Yeah we usually have to keep an eye on my granny,too…only thing she doesn’t get diarrhea of the mouth she wants to fight instead…comedy…

Dan - simply...Superior

November 23rd, 2010
11:23 am

@abc

Your comment @11:13 is illogical.

“Allowing” someone to do something that is in their nature is akin to saying “you’ve affected my self esteem”.

I’m gone do me – before and after marriage. And the female that I do marry knows that before the wedding day.

Yeah, I call shenanigans

Too FLY 2 Lie

November 23rd, 2010
11:24 am

When I have a Girlfriend I want to be single and when I am single I want a girlfriend. It’s just craziness!

Ezra

November 23rd, 2010
11:25 am

The prenuptial should be part of the marrige vows. A wise man told me once that men and women can never be equals. Why I asked. He said, “Because women have half the money and all the nookie.”

NY2GA

November 23rd, 2010
11:25 am

@Rell – Your 9:09 is crazy and right on point. Fellas if you truly think you got game, lay the cards on the table and see if she is willing to play. If you are lying and being a fraud, then you are a phony …

On Topic, comes down to the person and there wants. When you are with someone, there are times you want to be single and when you are single there are times you want that loving someone who has got your back!

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
11:25 am

Some women will just up and decide that “they aren’t happy anymore”

^^Most women take along time to get there…there will be signs, pleas for change…etc..What we men suffer from is anti-seductive behavoir. We become self-absorbed – we impose..talk to much..meaning we talk at the women and not to her. Focus attention slips off for other things we see has more important.

Raqi V

November 23rd, 2010
11:30 am

AlrightY they are getting off on Peachtree Ind. Blvd. They should be here in about 10 minutes.

You all have wonderful and joyous Thanksgiving. Eat until you are uncomfortable, watch plenty of television and enjoy your family and friends if only for one day.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
11:31 am

happy thanksgiving raqi

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
11:31 am

I have experienced a good marriage but I prefer to be single. Nothing against marriage but I will not partake again. Being single is where it is at for me no doubt about it.

Dan: I agree with you on that whole “she want let me” crap. If you offer up your authority up she anyone else will take it.

Raqi: Be safe and Happy Thanksgivings.

Kym: I got the traditional food ready and I’m competing with my brother this year for the best fried turkey. I don’t know if I’m going to win cause that boy know he can make a cajun fried turkey good enough to make you hold your pee.

Norvee Michele

November 23rd, 2010
11:31 am

I’ve met men who fit into both categories. Some want a serious relationship/marriage and others just want to play the field. Spend a bit of time and open your eyes, you’ll know pretty quickly which category a man falls into. i think it just depends on where they are in their life.

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
11:37 am

For Real – I’m frying an AA Dolphin this year and taking it down to Bama. I hope it turns out good but i just need a little mo special sauce to add to the mix.

Kym

November 23rd, 2010
11:38 am

@For Real…a turkey to make you hold your pee? LMAO!!

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
11:38 am

Rell: I’m sensing good vibe from you bruh. Glad to see you got some peace.

abc: If you allow the circumvention because it’s a “tough gig” what will you allow when things get tough?

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
11:39 am

I disagree with u both Dan and For Real and agree with abc!

It’s easier to sell her your mantra when u single and a she’s looking forward to is the wedding day.

Once she’s in,u have to manage that household everyday and if u don’t like how she’s responding to ur lead,u cannot negate that contract as easily as u bench a girl like when u single.

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
11:40 am

@for real…Thanks, i am cool now brother for real…the needle is back in the green zone…i have had my moment of clarity…and i see where i messed up…i adjusted and moved forward.

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
11:40 am

all she’s looking forward to is the wedding day

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
11:41 am

Slim: I”m calling PETA on you and tucking at the same time.

Kym: I ain’t lying folks be standing around in a single file line like they waiting on their unemployment check for his turkey. I think I’m going to try Vodka injections and hope getting fugged up trumps taste.

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
11:42 am

u have to manage that household everyday

^^The first duty of love is to listen. (Paul Tillich)

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
11:43 am

On topic:

Single would be a preferable best of both worlds if u can get a girl on board, longterm without getting on a financial hook.

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
11:45 am

Melo: “Once she’s in,u have to manage that household everyday and if u don’t like how she’s responding to ur lead,u cannot negate that contract as easily as u bench a girl like when u single.” – The hell you say. I’m divorced remember. If you allow her to believe she has something that she can hold over you then she will control you and that goes for any situation or relationship that you are in be man and woman or your job. Like my Paw-Paw use to say “Always be willing to walk away and start over”. Took me a long to time understand that….

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
11:49 am

Rell: “the needle is back in the green zone…” -

Chick: Hey Rell what you doing tonight?

Rell: RELL SMASH!!!

Rell’s new chick aka Betty: Hell Rell what you doing tonight?

Rell: Making quiche

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
11:49 am

4Real – That turkey sounds good. My brother can fry a good one too. And he makes the best sweet tea in the world.

Ms. Vee

November 23rd, 2010
11:49 am

Well, for awhile I was seeing a guy who claimed he could not STAND to be alone…but did not REALLY like seeing the same girl er’day. In the beginning it was OK with me…because I did not like being crowed and I had my OWN rotation going on as well. So nothing gained/nothing loss. But when a certain guy stepped up and pierced my heart…I dropped the zero and rode off with my HERO.

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
11:50 am

always be willing walk away!

@For Real

thank God u don’t wanna be married again,otherwise u wld be onto ur tenth marriage.

that line works perfect when u single. If u married u have to fight to retain ur marriage. For better for worse, remember?

And because females are human beings too u have to allow them the freedom to challenge u as well.

Yes u were married but u know a marriage ain’t that simple as walking away,like ur daddy said.

Mr. Moe

November 23rd, 2010
11:52 am

Good morning folks. Hope everyone is ready to great in a couple days.
“For Real is not the first guy I ran across who says I don’t want a relationship..I just want to do the rabbit dance on occasion and will admit that anytime he gets deep and involve he purposely mess it up..”….this is me right here to a T. I am flipping things a little bit lately though, the current woman I’m dating is coming to thanksgiving dinner with me at my aunts. It’s the talk of the family b/c its the first time I’ve invited someone….I know they are going to embarrass the hell out of me on purpose, but its on me for not doing something like this sooner

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
11:52 am

@for real….lol…jokes..but that was straight funny….making quiche..lol. Naw i am just sticking myself in a calm/submissive state…it works for ceasar…lol

2CPTG© - "that dude from da innanet"

November 23rd, 2010
11:52 am

“Fellas if you truly think you got game, lay the cards on the table and see if she is willing to play. If you are lying and being a fraud, then you are a phony …”

not that I’m an advocate of running game, but if I am, why would I reveal such???? you say, see if she is willing to play???? what???? If my game is what I think it is, then, it ain’t a matter of seeing if she wants to play, it’s seeing if it works! I don’t know nann true playa who’s gonna reveal the game…if anything, you gon’ fall victim to it!

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
11:54 am

Fellas if you truly think you got game, lay the cards on the table and see if she is willing to play. If you are lying and being a fraud, then you are a phony …

Alll day looong….seen!

em>i have had my moment of clarity…and i see where i messed up…i adjusted and moved forward.

Good for you Rell.

Dan - simply...Superior

November 23rd, 2010
11:54 am

@Melo

I get that marriage is about give and take, but if all I’m giving is me and taking her stuff at a 60/40 rate, somethings wrong.

The older I get, the more set I become in my ways. And at this point, anyone signing on has to deal with that – as you said “for better or worse”

@For Real

did I read that right? you were married?

huh?

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
11:56 am

@Rell – Some women will just up and decide that “they aren’t happy anymore”

^^Most women take along time to get there…there will be signs, pleas for change…etc..What we men suffer from is anti-seductive behavoir. We become self-absorbed – we impose..talk to much..meaning we talk at the women and not to her. Focus attention slips off for other things we see has more important. – thank you, nice to see a man who is enlightned enough to get it, so succinct and yet so simple, seems a lot of men miss the principles you’ve laid out here. will you be my new best friend

Norvee Michele

November 23rd, 2010
11:58 am

@For Real my mom told me the same thing too. Put some money away, stay employed and keep your skills up because you never know when you need to walk away. I believe you don’t let someone else determine who you are or your happiness. If you can’t accept me for who I am … then get with someone else. At least you know now what you need to be happy.

dagnabit

November 23rd, 2010
11:59 am

What numskull is going to tell a supple seductress that he loves being single?

Ms. Vee

November 23rd, 2010
11:59 am

I agree, most don’t tell you ahead of time what the real deal is, why? I never shared with anyone I was seeing what my side action was, wasn’t their business. But I must say, that from my experience, guys don’t take it well when they realize that you got your own side line action as well. As women, in some ways we have come to expect that most guys have others in the mix.

NY2GA

November 23rd, 2010
12:02 pm

2C, point well taken. What I am saying is man up, state what it is. If she wants to be involved cool, if not, move on. If you got a woman in your life and you see something else you are interested in, don’t sit there being a liar. If asked, I have someone I am seeing, but I like you as well. What’s up… Simple as that …

Fall victim, true playa, wha, huh. That term “playa” is so played out ..

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
12:03 pm

Most women take along time to get there…there will be signs, pleas for change…etc..

Soo on point! We just don’t have an “instant” epiphany and decided we’re not happy anymore….signals/signs been there all along but some can’t see the forest for the trees….tsk..tsk..tsk..

Reminds me of a song R.Kelly has called When a woman’s fed up…and it ain’t nothing you can do about it.

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
12:03 pm

Melo: “that line works perfect when u single. If u married u have to fight to retain ur marriage. For better for worse, remember?” – I agree 1000% but how long will your marriage last if she is running the show? How many times on this very blog have you heard women say they get tired of leading?

“And because females are human beings too u have to allow them the freedom to challenge u as well.” – Again, I agree 1000% but the true measure of a leader is to delegate not abdicate.

I think you are miss understanding my Paw-Paw’s wisdom here; demonstrating the willingness to walk away or start over for your belief show how strongly committed you are to your beliefs and whatever threat you may want to impose onto me will not work.

abc

November 23rd, 2010
12:04 pm

It’s not as if you’d “allow circumvention” of leadership. It’s that the relationship becomes a battleground at that point. That’s along the lines of what I’d decided I could easily do without, after more than a decade of that kind of strife — it just plain wasn’t worth it. Frankly, it was likewise with dating: it just wasn’t worth it.

Except then my girl came along. Like I said, there are exceptions to everything.

2CPTG© - "that dude from da innanet"

November 23rd, 2010
12:06 pm

NY….I understand exactly where you’re coming from…only thing I’m saying is, IF a guy is playing games with your emotions, he’s not going to tell you….he’s going to see if his “game” is up to par…and trust me, there are some “victims” out there who’ve fallen prey to smooth talking dudes, only to regret it later…it happens….

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
12:08 pm

…still waiting on that violin concerto….

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
12:10 pm

For Real!

u are elevating continous disagreements to her ‘running the show’

my point is,as Abc correctly points out,a battleground of a relationship is the last thing a man wants.

So u try to work out the differences as best as u can because ur vows demand it.

If it fails that’s when u either succumb or u walk.

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
12:11 pm

2C: I have to disagree with you on this one bruh. I’m upfront no chaser and most importantly I stick to what I said upfront.

Dan: Yes sir

Norvee: I agree with your 1:58 and you right there are some men that can’t handle a woman with a rotation. For record I ain’t one of them. Do you like dolphins?

2CPTG© - "that dude from da innanet"

November 23rd, 2010
12:14 pm

2C: I have to disagree with you on this one bruh. I’m upfront no chaser and most importantly I stick to what I said upfront.

Grown men do this ^^^^^^^…..it’s the guys who ain’t being true, those are the ones I’m talking about….

DJ Sniper

November 23rd, 2010
12:14 pm

Some of ya’ll are saying that when a woman decides she isn’t happy anymore, it something that has built up over time due to something that the man has done. While that is true in some cases, I’m sure ya’ll can agree that there are situations where the woman decides to leave it all just for the hell of it. Men are capable of some truly trifling behavior, but women are too.

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
12:18 pm

abc: Seems to me you made the decision to walk because you could not make it work under your terms instead of succumbing. I feel you bruh.

Melo: “If it fails that’s when u either succumb or u walk.” – I would strikeout succumb and replace it with “make it work under your terms”. See you are a willing participant but let me make this perfectly clear because I understand that no two marriages are alike. If it works for you then DON’T CHANGE ONE A DAYUM THANG!!!

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
12:18 pm

Three Words Daily – “Worryin’ll kill ya’.”

For Real

November 23rd, 2010
12:20 pm

2C: Your follow-up just popped up and I get what you are saying. “Playing Games” then no it would not make sense to be upfront. With that being said what your take on “If I tell you I’m going to lie to you, is it still a lie?”

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
12:22 pm

succumb as in jellyback,as Infamous would say.

there are men out there who have succumbed to being 2nd lieutenant,at the beck and call of their females.

Da_Man!

November 23rd, 2010
12:24 pm

Men don’t mind being single b/c they’re never “really” single. Most of the time our psyche just tells us that we need companionship. So depending on how you define it, single can just mean you don’t have “in-house” but if you have someone to call on that’s nothing more than a short drive away then it’s all good. That person doesn’t have to be a girlfriend.

Zulu

November 23rd, 2010
12:24 pm

Men are the biggest chumps in the world when it comes to females. They don’t understand that most women are genetically hardwired to crave two things, money and children, and that men are just the means to that end. A lot of guys naively blunder into marriage thinking it’ll be like Ozzie & Harriett before reality sets in. Singleness is fine. Shacking up is fine too long as you can escape with no strings attached. Marriage is mostly for fools.

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
12:27 pm

that’s a troll,if u wanna know.

Not ur original zulu

Good Guy Getting Greater

November 23rd, 2010
12:30 pm

“…you know, the serial monogamists who go from one relationship to the next with little to no break between”

Yea, can’t even lie that definitely used to be me. I was always “on to the next one” lol. Didn’t really matter to me though, because I just hated being single I just wanted to have that someone, but now after more than just a few relationships under my belt (successful and disasterous) I actually like being single.

Do you believe men dislike being single? Is it a myth that having all that freedom is the reason why men delay marriage?

It depends on the guy honestly. IMHO…i like being single. Sure, there are times when I wish I wasn’t, but for the most part being single is probably best for me since I’m just not ready to settle down. I still feel like I have a lot more to discover within myself and a lot more to do and accomplish in my own life and contrary to popular belief, i think a girlfriend would only slow me down. Time possibly spent with a SOS, could be time to go out and have drinks with my friends, hoop with the fellas, practice for guitar performances, save my money (lol)…I’m sure a lot of women think it’s stupid but when you’ve been in one relationship after another you start to realize how much time was wasted on making someone else happy instead of self. I’m embracing my selfishness can’t you tell? lol so in my case i’d say it’s definitely a myth. That freedom is precious.

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
12:35 pm

I met TheDude at a space in my life where I was really loving myself and “not minding” being single.

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
12:42 pm

Sexxycool?

‘not minding being single’

doubt that!

Females are so self conscious. Even when sitting alone at the bar,her fleeting eyes and dress will always alert even the most benign make predator!

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
12:43 pm

Male predator

abc

November 23rd, 2010
12:45 pm

Actually, I didn’t walk, she did. While it was okay with me to split, I wouldn’t have done it. Marriage isn’t a matter of having such a choice, to me — it’s a lifetime commitment, for better or for worse, as the vows say. Now, everything worked out just fine for me, but I can’t say my kids are better off for it (yet), and I know my ex isn’t better off for it, even if she’s the one that broke it all up.

In fact, I feel like the luckiest guy on the planet, the way things worked out for me personally. It’s a blessing from God, is what it is — and on that account, it’s a positive effect on my kids, too, because they can see that for what it is.

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
12:46 pm

Dan – 1101a – “I lead, she follows, or not. But to ride on this train, I’m the conductor. She can’t let me do nothing..”

That.
Was.
Sexy.

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
12:59 pm

Melo…It’s a good thing I know me a helluva lot better than you know me.

i'm swiss™ (but you can call me Mr. Goodnight)

November 23rd, 2010
1:24 pm

Marco…

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
1:25 pm

Wendys fries are looking and tasting a lot better

I’m done now buying a wendys spicy chicken plain and then getting a mickydee fries pack

nice job!

i'm swiss™ (but you can call me Mr. Goodnight)

November 23rd, 2010
1:25 pm

… Polo

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
1:26 pm

ooh na na…what’s my name

Not everybody knows how to work my body
Knows how to make me want it
But boy you stay up on it
You got that something that keeps me so off balance
Baby you’re a challenge, lets explore your talent

Hey boy I really wanna see if you can go downtown with a girl like me
Hey boy, I really wanna be with you
Cause you just my type
Ooh na na na na
I need a boy to take it over
Looking for a guy to put in work, uh
Oooooh, oooooh

(me likey dis song)

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
1:27 pm

Swiss?

have u seen the Aretha franklin chocolate bar ‘diva commercial?

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
1:27 pm

a good friend of mine recently just completed her 21 days…

Thanksgiving Year-Round
We’re particularly gifted in the finger-pointing department when it comes to our romantic relationships—you know, where the other person is the one who needs to change. Let me explain how something extremely simple, taking less than 5-minutes a day, can literally change your life.

A few years back, a friend of mine was complaining about his wife. From my observation, she was a terrific lady, and he was lucky to have her. I told him as much, but he continued to point out all the ways she was responsible for his unhappiness. That’s when I shared an experience that had literally changed my marriage… and me.

One Thanksgiving, I decided to keep a Thanks Giving journal for my wife. Every day for an entire year I logged at least one thing I appreciated about her—the way she interacted with her friends, how she cared for our dogs, the fresh bed she prepared, a succulent meal she whipped up, or the beautiful way she styled her hair that day—whatever. I looked for the things my wife was doing that touched me, or revealed attributes, characteristics, or qualities I appreciated. I wrote them all down secretly for the entire year. By the end of that year, I’d filled an entire journal.

When I gave it to her the following Thanksgiving, she cried, calling it the best gift she’d ever received. (Even better than the BMW I’d given her for her birthday!) The funny thing was that the person most affected by this gift was me. All that journaling forced me to focus on my wife’s positive aspects. I was consciously looking for all the things she was doing “right.” That heartfelt focus overwhelmed anything I might have otherwise complained about. I fell deeply in love with her all over again (maybe even more than ever, as I was seeing subtleties in her nature and behavior instead of her more obvious qualities). My appreciation, gratitude, and intention to find the best in her was something I held in my heart and eyes each day. This caused me to show up differently in my marriage, which, of course, made her respond differently to me. Soon, I had even more things to write in my Thanks Giving journal! As a result of choosing to take a mere five minutes every day or so to document all the reasons why I was grateful for her, we experienced one of the best years of our marriage, and it’s only gotten better.

After I shared my experience, my friend decided to keep a Thanks Giving journal about his wife. Within the first few months, he completely turned around his marriage. Choosing to look for and focus on his wife’s positive qualities changed his view of her, which changed how he interacted with her. As a result, she made different choices about the way she responded to him. The cycle perpetuated. Or, shall we say, compounded

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
1:29 pm

swiss – how you gon’ play Marco Polo by yourself?

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm

He plays with himself a lot.

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
1:35 pm

Not everybody knows how to work my body!

Slim?

yellow foul flag for that line…. No more interacting with that lady!

see how talking too much is a no no.

comparing other dudes to him, no compliment there!

OK

November 23rd, 2010
1:37 pm

@ Rell… Im coming out of lurkville on your 1.27pm post…that is what Im talking about.
Do you have any brothers..hehe

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
1:38 pm

Dell?

did Steve Harvey pen that 1.27?

kimmie

November 23rd, 2010
1:48 pm

Beautiful Rell. You’re dropping many gems today!

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
1:52 pm

@OK….That is a story from a book i am reading calling the compound effect. I am no longer married..but i will do this challenge on my current girlfriend..I observe the laws of power

Law 25

Re-Create Yourself

Do not accept the roles that society foists on you. Re-create yourself by forging a new identity, one that commands attention and never bores the audience. Be the master of your own image rather than letting others define if for you. Incorporate dramatic devices into your public gestures and actions – your power will be enhanced and your character will seem larger than life.

NY2GA

November 23rd, 2010
1:55 pm

WD, no work, strickly drinking and eating tomorrow … Pre Thanksgiving Party …

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm

I will be AT work…not so sure about workING.

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm

Melo – maybe that’s a hidden message to Chris Brown from Rihanna. lol But seriously some dudes do ask crazy questions about your past as if they want to get their feelings hurt.

Wise – I will be here tomorrow.

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
2:00 pm

@WD – Im officially on vacation starting tomorrow…

ok, so i had Fig Newtons for lunch…..it seemed like a good idea at the time….gonna be hungry later….

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
2:02 pm

@Melo…The compound effect – Darren Hardy…editor of success magazine..thats who wrote that

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
2:07 pm

Rell?

he’s perpetuating the myth that women need to be put in a pedestal all the time.

see how they all liking that?

what of the men?

Or as Ms Guthrie wld say,what has she done for me lately to deserve that?

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
2:07 pm

Are you guys going to be working tomorrow?

Yeah I’m gonna saunter in veeery casually and mysteriously exit the same way….

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
2:10 pm

Why wouldn’t the woman that lays down with you every night, cooks for you, cleans your house, mothers your babies and what ever in dahell else she does be deserving?

Trevor0529

November 23rd, 2010
2:14 pm

@Sassy, I will do the same thing at work tomorrow. Walk right in and mysteriously exit the same way.

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
2:14 pm

he’s perpetuating the myth that women need to be put in a pedestal all the time.

@melo..its a gratitude exercise…so being grateful for a person that choice to be with you is sticking her a pedestal….hmmmm….

who does like to be apprieciated….hmmmmm

I dont get your line of questioning on this one…its simple…as a “leader” you lead…you reward your charge for a job well done…you help them become the person you want by encourgement…i could go on..but i think you get it

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
2:15 pm

Sexycool?

she laying with me?
making babies with me?

surprise,surprise!

for a moment,it sounded like she was putting her toy beside her in bed,placing her finger in her nether and wallaaaaa!

A baby is born!

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
2:19 pm

Seriously?

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
2:22 pm

You have made it more than clear over the years that you have little respect for women and hold them in low regard. I don’t even know why I’m surprised at your position, because if nothing else, you are consistent.

Kudos to those that show growth.

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
2:23 pm

And thank God for trees that remain rooted in the same spot…they are excellent for throwing shade.

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
2:28 pm

Sexxycol?

no debate,just str8 to a conclusion?

are u that weak minded u can’t view a contrary opinion without feeling slighted personally?

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
2:30 pm

And thank God for trees that remain rooted in the same spot…they are excellent for throwing shade

- body blow..lol

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
2:34 pm

Melo…when you approach a discussion in a mature manner that opens a dialogue or that calls for an exchange, I welcome that. However, broadstroking, generalizations and sophomoric sarcasm are all conclusions in themselves and are unworthy of debate.

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
2:34 pm

@melo – been lurking here, but am interested in the question as Rell poses it, and i must have missed the answer, “so being grateful for a person that choice to be with you is sticking her a pedestal?” – how does that work exactly, cause im sure you would like to have some sign of appreciation from her for the things that you do for her..so whats wrong in giving her the same, how is that putting her on a pedestal?

Devile Advocate

November 23rd, 2010
2:40 pm

Enter your comments here

tellitlikeitis

November 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm

Rell, do you have a brother?

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
2:43 pm

Sexxycool?

not the first time u said that about me. If I were to make my own conclusions,it appears it’s u who carries a bruised self worth,courtesy of ur prior failed relationships.

Everybody hear makes generalizations,u included.
I laced mine with lol coz I was merely trying to initiate debate.

When I spot what seems like personal injury, I smell nursed wounds. Not my problem!

@blue!

a woman that is doing good by you is appreciated. I think that is the gist of what the author qouted by Rell is saying!

Is that what u asking?

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm

Trevor I won’t tell….

Da_Man!

November 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm

I guess the fact or fiction ran it’s course???

Ok

November 23rd, 2010
2:45 pm

@Rell..you dropin it like its hot with the knowledge of course.

Da_Man!

November 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm

@Melo … @SexyCool …

Can’t we all just get along??? Geez it’s about to be Thanksgiving.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm

dammit ADHD kicked in… Let me go back to the first line of REll’s novel and start again.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
2:47 pm

<————still trying to read Rell's novel
been trying to read it for the past 15 mins.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm

anyone care to tell me why blog ate like two of my posts

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm

Da-man?

no problem as long as noone here feels like a victim.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm

Fugg it! I’m going back to work

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm

@tellitlikitis…yes i have a younger brother…he is married at this time….he tried to warn me of my behavior prior to my failed marriage…but big brother thought he knew better…i was wrong

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
2:50 pm

@ok…thanks, just sharing….

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm

@melo – add a couple of simple word to that and i think you’d have it right – show a woman that is doing good by you that she is appreciated. but you started talking about how he’s perpetuating the idea that women should be placed on a pedestal at all times…how do the two equate? seems to me he’s saying treat her the way she deserves to be treated, with her effort noticed and rewarded; show her what she means to you, instead of expecting your mere presence to be enough of a sign – whats so foul about that idea?

Da_Man!

November 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm

@tellitlikeitis … I’m Rell’s newly adopted brother!

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
2:53 pm

Correction, sweetie. Reinforced self worth, strengthened by lessons learned from experience. I have no shame in admitting to past failures. Each failure is an opportunity, a step that moves me closer to success.

Also, I make it a point to refrain from generalizations as much as possible. And I am quite often the first to admit that stereotypes, although most naturally subscribe to them, often do more harm than good.

And all you smell….is Escape, by Calvin Klein.

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
2:54 pm

Trevor…I’m not arguing, upset or even the least bit ruffled. I am simply meeting Melo on his level.

Da_Man!

November 23rd, 2010
2:56 pm

Not to sound corny … but a woman should be placed on a pedestal at all times … despite their character. Takes a man to have a daughter to really understand that.

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
2:56 pm

Blue?

that’s why I perambulated in my analysis to’ u know who’ that I was merely trying to bring up some medula in the convo.

Just trying to have a mental fest.

Did I rebutt to ur satisfaction?

Da_Man!

November 23rd, 2010
2:59 pm

@SexyCool – You told them … with yo sexy smell’n self!

Rell

November 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm

Takes a man to have a daughter to really understand that.

- you know my thoughts have changed since my interaction with my girlfriends daughter..i have discovered a whole new patients i never knew existed in me…and i can see how we as men shape our daughters from a young age

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
3:03 pm

What Rell posted is really no different of the concept that Oprah talked about as far as keeping a Gratitude journal…or any more different than praying daily for all the little-to-big blessings we get on a daily basis. How easy it is to complain so much that you are missing what is actually good in your life, whether that be in the form of a wife with the imperfections unique to her, or a friend or a job or someone at the register behind you willing to give you 3 cents out of their pocket just to keep you from breaking that other dollar, or that side piece willing to come over at the break of dawn to make you holla…

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
3:05 pm

@melo – perambulate/mental fest/acceptable rebuttal – hmmm, i would have to say, no not feeling it lol. alot of your rebuttals have an air to me of “women are privileged to be in my/mens presence”, this comment included. mental fest to me means throwing out intelligent items to discuss, not argument sparks….my opinion tho!

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
3:06 pm

That side piece willing…..break of dawn.

Slim!

there u go again,dissing women.

Da_Man!

November 23rd, 2010
3:08 pm

@Slim – You’re right No difference between Rell’s & Oprah’s concept but I’m sure if Rell gave away a free Kia to everyone on this blog board, he’d be on point!!!

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
3:08 pm

Blue?

I don’t have a problem with u agreeing with Sexxycool

Trevor0529

November 23rd, 2010
3:09 pm

that side piece willing to come over at the break of dawn to make you holla

Nice thought. Hmmmmm!

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
3:11 pm

anyone else working like a government mule or is it just me

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
3:12 pm

u stoopid…..

Delight23

November 23rd, 2010
3:12 pm

anyone else working like a government mule or is it just me

Federal or State? Just saying…

Delight23

November 23rd, 2010
3:14 pm

late as all get out… but YEAH!!! Glad the menses show’d up.

Delight23

November 23rd, 2010
3:16 pm

er, ok. I think menses was the wrong choice.

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
3:16 pm

Glad the menses show’d up.

Good for youuu

Celisea

November 23rd, 2010
3:17 pm

You tube has been blocked…say it ain’t so…

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
3:18 pm

@Slim – never been much of an Oprah watcher but sounds like a decent principle all around. to me is a way to take some responsibility for your own happiness and not leaving it all up to other people, blaming your lack of it on other people.
@melo – LMAO. i like the come back, tho do find it noteworthy that the “women are privileged to be in my/mens presence” attitude was not denied, interesting…..
@i am – im with ya! going cross eyed over her with these worksheets.

Celisea

November 23rd, 2010
3:19 pm

Soon it will be just work…gheesh

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm

Blue?

that line was a deduction from some archive,much like her conclusion on the diss of women.

from our two part communications today,there is none that I see to arrive at that.
I didn’t wanna waste my time and yes rebutting!

That’s why I took the low road or default road(per u and sexxy)

I pop my collar,regardless

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm

I have a plethora of things to do that all have to been done by COB
it’s times like these, I just mentally check out

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm

When an okay looking guy says he has not been on a date, he Lyin!

I’m just saying.
Sorry for the random thought.

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
3:27 pm

Two part( u blue and I)

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
3:27 pm

Soon it will be just work…gheesh

At least you hadaccess…over here at the gubment facility that was never an option….they’ve got a slew of isht blocked over here…

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm

u stoopid…

Celisea

November 23rd, 2010
3:30 pm

Sassy – At least you hadaccess…over here at the gubment facility that was never an option….they’ve got a slew of isht blocked over here…

Girl, 2 more sites remaining, after that we’re out all the way. At least my phone can do anything…I’ll just plug and listen there.

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm

RASTAFARI!!!!!

I just felt like saying that

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm

@I am!

RASTAFARI

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm

Da_Man…lol…

i'm swiss™ (but you can call me Mr. Goodnight)

November 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm

Melo — Yes, I have seen that commercial (the Aretha one)… sorry for the slow reply…

Slim — I have a very active imagination, so I can manage to play all sorts of games by myself, if necessary… Self sufficiency!

Da_Man!

November 23rd, 2010
3:37 pm

@I am … @Melo

BOOYAKA … BOOYAKA!!!

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
3:39 pm

@melo – too funny, pop away my friend ….

@i am – developing some form of Tourettes over there with the random outbursts? lmao

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
3:41 pm

Swiss?

u gon stay coz I have a 2nd part?

i'm swiss™ (but you can call me Mr. Goodnight)

November 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm

Bring on Part Deux, Melo…

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
3:45 pm

BUMBALACLOT!!!!!

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
3:46 pm

GWON Gwet Dis party started!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkV-SC4YlhM

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm

swiss – you ever play hide-n-go-get with yourself?

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm

“…Federal or State? Just saying…….”"”

LMAO!!! I’m still laughing over this

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm

I have reached a point of delirium…will this day ever end?!!!

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
4:01 pm

Wikipedia is the bomb! you can learn alot about the Kings and Queens of Africa just thru Wikipedia alone. Wow!

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
4:02 pm

Slim?

u be in Conyers 4 thanxgiving..can I stop by by for a thigh?

A turkey thigh….what were u thinking now?

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
4:05 pm

Turkey’s have thigh’s
Well, only seems fair if chicken’s have legs
now the real question I ponder is do chickens have lips

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
4:07 pm

Yep, it’s official. Chickens have lips

http://www.wittybanter.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ChickenLips.jpg

I am whatever you say I am

November 23rd, 2010
4:07 pm

you know what?
Chicken butt

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UYCFEwuJs3Y/SfPEdioyaJI/AAAAAAAAAbA/eGyocZ8IoT0/s400/chicken_butt_25.jpg

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
4:08 pm

Melo – Nope you won’t find anyone there but the cat. Have fun chasing him around the house for one of his…thighs.

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
4:15 pm

and my Cracker Jack prize isss……a foldover paper puzzle of Benjamin Franklin??? really??? these prizes so should have upgraded by now…

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
4:18 pm

what if i want the caramel popcorn wothout the peanuts? is there a brand name for that?

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
4:28 pm

Fiddle Faddle comes w/o nuts…

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
4:29 pm

…i think anyway

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
4:31 pm

Awww schucks, it looks like Doom & Gloom over here…in comes the wind and the rain….then on top of that guess what???——> my umbrella is IN DA FREAKIN CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
4:32 pm

Blue?

what good is anything without nutts?

nutts spicy up everything….nutts bring out the Ooomph!

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
4:33 pm

fiddle faddle…gotta go look for that hten..not feeling the peanuts….

was checking that out Slim, looking nasty out there…you better curl up in a hot blanket when you get home..may have to give you some of what The Blues call toxic tea, lol. it does everything from cure the flu to help you pass a p!ss test lol

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
4:37 pm

melo – dont want oomph, i want sweet!!! and these peanuts are interfering with that lolol

Celisea

November 23rd, 2010
4:38 pm

Rell – Great posts today, sounds like he’s evolving

Melo – Cut it out man

Random….somewhat: Transparency shines through more ways than one. No matter if you don’t own it, the style and content is always unique to you Reindeer games = BS

Sassy Me..I Feel like bustin' loose :-)

November 23rd, 2010
4:41 pm

then on top of that guess what???——> my umbrella is IN DA FREAKIN CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me,too…

Sugar melts when it gets wet so I don’t know what Imma doooo

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
4:43 pm

blue – is that anything like a hot tottie?

Melo!!

November 23rd, 2010
4:44 pm

Blue?

u unlike me,can’t get enough of peanuts!

i'm swiss™ (but you can call me Mr. Goodnight)

November 23rd, 2010
4:44 pm

Slim — I have. It always ends up a draw…

SexyCool

November 23rd, 2010
4:49 pm

Sassy…that was funny. Good to know your own sweetness, ain’t it?

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
4:50 pm

@Slim – no, no alcohol involved…(pondering to myself – tho i suppose that would be an interesting addition). all natural – its a tea made out of fresh ginger root and some form of citrus fruit (whatever you wanna use). chop em up, throw in a big pot of water and stew for at least 90 minutes, a bit longer if you have the time (you want it to be nice and strong, i usually do between 2 and 3 hours, add a little more water as it boils down). add a little honey and drink as hot as you can. it wont be the best tasting stuff, what medicine is, but it’ll clear up the stuffiness and let you sleep, wake up a brand new Slim. works wonders over here, one of the few good things i got from the BD, lol.

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
4:51 pm

had one of mr.blues service friends drink it for the flu when he had to 24 hour duty the next day, added perk he passed his random p!ss test when there was no wayyy in he!! he should have lol

SlimNumeroUno

November 23rd, 2010
4:56 pm

Hmmmm…..sounds like a recipe I may need to hold onto. Do you have to grind the ginger root up or just throw the whole shibang in there?

men lie, women lie

November 23rd, 2010
5:01 pm

the real problem is when we (men and women) want the cake to eat it too, don’t commit if your not willing to sacrafice, being with someone takes maturity because you can’t always have it your way, I’m a guy and the one problem I have with ladies is ya’ll preach that I want a good man, but when you atain that man, you stop doing the things that got him, we will never say it but if you take the time to make us feel like a king you WILL feel like a queen, if you nagg and make us feel like ya’ll do boy’s, then we will be up in someone else who does make us feel good.

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
5:02 pm

dont throw it in whole, just cut it in like 1/2 inch or so slices or chunks, makes it easier to stew down. the fruit just cut it like you would if you were gonna eat it, in half or quarters or whatever, try and squeeze a little of the juice out and just throw em in peel and all. for like a spaghetti type pot (what is that like 4 quarts or so) i usually use about 2/3 of a hand of ginger and 3 or 4 pieces of fruit.

blue®

November 23rd, 2010
5:03 pm

whatever you dont drink this bout, just bottle up and put in the fridge or freezer…it keeps well.

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