Well,well,well….My new and inproved sexy friend Blue is first up today!!! Morning Dear!!!!

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good morning…

money and dates…..dates and money…..they go hand in hand….”When more money is spent on dating, does it create more expectations?” nah, ’cause if more money is spent, expectations have already been met….and more money doesn’t create more problems, it creates more options!!!

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Good Morning All,

I have not spent money on dating cause I am not doing that right now..and if I was I am still not spending money. Hair done..Nails..Done..that’s personal grooming and care..but when I here some folks talk about the money they are spending..I have to wonder what’s up with that. Call me cheap, frugual whateva..but..my friend sent me this line and I believe I have shared it once before.. It keeps me grounded anytime I get QVC fever..

“We spend money we don’t have, on things we don’t need, to create impressions that won’t last, on people we don’t care about.”

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“more money doesn’t create more problems, it creates more options!!!”

preach Bruh!!!! LOL

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Morning Simple Man
Morning cz – im with you, yawning my head off here….

Morning everybody….
Yes it takes money to date, but imo, a person who spends within their means gains more respect everytime than dude who spends to impress, and hopes to high heaven you dont see him on a day your not scheduled to see him, cause he’s busted as all he!! from your date.

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Kym, I try really hard not to blast women for their approach to dating and I will not generalize about women cause I know nothing applies to everybody, but I have yet to have a woman that I asked out tell me no when I am in my good car, but when I drive my everyday car, its 50/50…I don’t think women undersatnd or are willing to admit if they do, but guys know that old saying is true..” No romance without finance”

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Morning all

Yes, I’m still mad you all locked me in the bathroom

Is dating expensive, well if you are a guy yes it is.
If you are girl, no not really.

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@WD – when you lead with all the cash spending and spoiling and then get in a relationship and switch it up and she has to practically beg you for a egg mcmuffin deal ? Hilarious, but so true, start the way you wanna finish….
@i am – did they really lock you in here?

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Yes Blue,
I had my magazines porn with me doing my business and all the sudden the lights go out and I hear doors locked.
I was HOT!

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“No matter though, I’m only dating chicks who make more than me…”

Dreams, lotta folks (male and female alike), prolly won’t even be able to digest this, but I know exactly where ya comin from…..and you ain’t gotta be broke to understand the underlying concept behind this….

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Dreams…The ladies are gonna play this one PC….We all know that women don’t give broke dudes the time of day! And Wisey, it does not matter who the women I approach are….If I am walking out of Kroger in a pair of Jeans anD I hop into a Ford Focus 2door hatchback (example) I may or may not catch Diva’s eye, But If I pull up in front of Uptown Comedy corner and Valet a 500SL, mental notes will be made!!!

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For the record, I will debate this one all day, but I bet I have spent 6 or 7k on dating this year…..

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“I bet I have spent 6 or 7k on dating this year…..”

man to man (you put it out there)…..why? hoping to catch the “one,” or, simply cause it ain’t no thing….which I can respect, as well….

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Morning blog…today starts the best time of the year…football and basketball seasons on tv…today is going to be a great day. We’ll see all those bandwagon Heat and Celtic fans come out tonight….

On topic:Im with the rest of the fellas on this one, women know good and well yall arent giving a broke brotha an opportunity to do anything. YSIC, I like how you think

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I know exactly where ya comin from…..and you ain’t gotta be broke to understand the underlying concept behind this…
2CPTG yeah I figured you could feel me on that one.

Dreams…The ladies are gonna play this one PC
Simple yeah I know. It’s always that way when it comes to the tough topics…

I’m tired of them “‘lean back’ brothers….you know when the check comes all of a sudden they ‘lean back’”
YesSheIsCute sweetie I’m callin’ BS on this one, sorry. Has this happened to you more often than not? I’d be willing to bet it’s the minority of all dates. I’m just not buying that every time a woman goes out, dudes are expecting her to pay.

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like a lot of women, i prefer the simple guy, who isnt showing off how much hes got. id prefer the ford focus over the 500SL. im a simple gal, who likes to keep things simple and easy flowing, unpretentious, and thats the kinda guy im looking for. not everything is about deep pockets, he!! i aint got deep pockets, so i stay in my lane lol and avoid the conversation of shes only with im for the money….should an opportunity present itself for dude to be well off and hees got other qualities too, im not gonna be naive enough to say id turn it down, but it aint the money thats attracting me

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Good day.

@Wise Diva @9:19

Like the saying goes….you finish how you start. If you start out trickin alot of money on a woman you just met, thats the level of expectation she will keep you at. You cant start out at level 10 and try to switch to level 1. You have to gradually upgrade everything if you think she is worth it.

I try to keep my dates under $50.00

Thats why I start out small because when I am just getting to know the woman and I dont know if I want to deal with her yet. So in the meantime, we can meet up for brunch, lunch, or happy hour until I deem it necessary to deal with her on the next level.

I think the appropriate time for next level purchases etc is when you two are more serious and when you know she would do it for you also; not just a one sided encounter.

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what’s broke? because I’m a lil shawt this week, does that mean I’m financially irresponsible?

I’mma use my own self as an example….bills paid, ain’t nothing lingering….but pockets ain’t sittin on swole……if I said, we gon have to wait til next week to do whatever, would you automatically assume I was broke?

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@blue..I am with you..I don’t like flashy..keep it simple.

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We all know that women don’t give broke dudes the time of day!

Morning Simple.

That’s not true. You can get in the door, but you HAVE to compensate for it in some way. For instance, you can’t date her and then wanna stay at home cuz you don’t have money to go out. You better find ways to still take her out without breaking the bank.

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These chumps take me for granted sometimes but I love them anyway

WiseDiva – I give you props a lot. You never acknowledge them! Rude!

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For all you “need to get a clue” male folk imma come out of pocket today and treat a man to a $$$ lunch. And not only that, imma chauffer him in my car. That’s right, the pinto is shined up so we can step out in style with the lunch crowd.

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@2C nope I would assume things are tight for you like everyone else..so I would say hey you wanna go catch a dollar movie over in Fayetteville? Popcorn on me.

@Swiss of course we all want someone to wine and dine us..but I can get that same feeling without going to the Sundial. Lord I know I am about to sound like Linus talking about the Great Pumpkin..but seriously if the dude is sincere and generally trying to get to know me and the conversation and personalities click..then I can work with that.

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AmazonRed, mine. I have my own money darling.

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exactly, Kym. if it’s a first date, somebody should already have a plan in place. if you’ve been kickin it a while, what’s the harm in saying “we can’t do such & such this week cuz my funds are low”? cuz lil mama just might be perfectly ok with footin the bill. are you telling me you have never known a woman to step up like that?

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@Wise & Everyone

So is it wrong if a woman immediately pays for the second date or after a while pays for some of the other dates?

I think this really shows her interest in you, but if the guy is always paying for every date, I dont think she is really that interested. You may be just a meal for her, an attention stroker, or just a transitional guy until something better comes along…

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Ok…Maybe you ladies are the exceptions and all the rest of the ladies in the world want a guy that has his money right.
Simple whatever man. If tomorrow the topic is “Dating a Man Who Makes Lsess than You”, chicks would overwhelmingly state that they won’t date a man who makes less than they do. They may admit to having done it in the past, but wouldn’t do it now. I know this because we’ve had that as a topic before.

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AmazonRed, mine. I have my own money darling.

No! What’s his is yours and what’s yours is his! I have spoken!

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in all honesty (and i can see the men going “yeah right” while the women are agreeing), when i was dating and now that im married, i prefer the walks in the park, the picnic lunch, the candelight dinner at home to the night at red lobster, movie on opening day yada yada…why? cause it shows thought, it shows time and attention. the red lobsters and all to me is like the default date, theres no originality, nothing specific to the situation that you and i are developing. and id rather the time and thought than the $200 dinner….

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@ simple my man doesn’t make a whole lot of money he just works A LOT of mandatory overtime which is why he makes more than double I do…not that I make a whole lot anyway. I hate to say it but you get tired of trying to “work” with a dude who doesn’t want to be “worked with” anyway. So just to cut the bs I don’t date dudes who live with their mama, content with being on unemployment until it runs out, etc. If that makes me a golddigger than I wear that. Wear it like a badge of honor. I work hard for mine and I want a dude with the same. Doesn’t have to have a lot but if he has nothing sorry bye.

Anyway what type of dude who is broke and has nothing to offer would want to date anyway? Any REAL man would want to be able to take his lady to a museum, to pappadeaux once in a blue moon, to the world of coca cola, to gatlinburg, to the state fare in perry, ga….but I digress. A real man who has nothing to offer is not going to date. The ones who do ain’t about nothing….

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DreamsMat, at what age should a woman expect a man to have his pockets together. Not rich and/or balling but together.

A man over 40 still penny pinching?

The right women aren’t asking to be swept away to Paris for the weekend, they are just asking that a man of a certain age be able to take her out and he get to enjoy a meal also. It’s the 20’s young men that are treating women to places (Joe’s, Red’s) that they can’t afford.

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Three Words Daily – Take action. (Two Words Week)

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Oh and also, I have friends with student loan debts of $50,000+. Some even $100,000+. So I’m very aware that even if one is doing well…they are still digging themselves out of a hole…

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WiseDiva, anytime money and dating is mentioned the comments will always flow downstream. Always.

I don’t know where these guys are meeting these women but they need to try fishing in a different pond.

Or the problem just may be the women that are not chasing men for his wallet are women that these guys will not give the time of day.

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I Am, sorry for locking you in. I thought I was alone.

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Simple – Because men with money tend to treat women more like property or something to “acquire.” In addition, I don’t know how much they would trust a woman coming into the picture after they already have it made.

I’d rather be there when he was broke. I’d like to celebrate his rise to power with him as well as know I had a hand in supporting him while he was making it happen.

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DreamsMat, at what age should a woman expect a man to have his pockets together. Not rich and/or balling but together.

A man over 40 still penny pinching?
Raqi Sure, a guy 30+ ought to be self-sufficient and be able to indulge at least a little. The topic isn’t about that though. Wise said you can date for free, and the men are calling BS on that. BTW, many penny pinchers end up millionaires. It may not be the type of dude you (not you specifically) like, but there are women who will appreciate that quality in a man.

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Good day mates!

Oh, the dreaded “money” topic again!

Maybe you ladies are the exceptions and all the rest of the ladies in the world want a guy that has his money right.

Simple – What is your definition of having “his money right”? Because my definition is a man that is financially responsible, that lives and dates within his means. That is secure enough with whatever his income to be himself and not feel he has to front and put on a show for folks that wouldn’t bring him a glass of water if he was thirsty! I think we would all agree that most women want a financially responsible guy. If you’re just talking about a wealthy guy, well of course it is nice, but every woman out there is not a golddigger. That’s just a fact.

I’ve gone out with a financially irresponsible man before and it was one of the worst dating experiences I have had. We did not go on elaborate dates at all. They were very simple, and yes I foot the bill sometimes. But he blew his money on material things he could not afford and let his student loans default. He lost 2 checking accounts in the course of the 2 years we dated. His credit was so messed up he could not sit for the bar exam, thus affecting his employment options. On 2 occasions when we were out his credit card was declined or he “conveniently” left his wallet home, so we had to leave the date. It was embarrasing – a 33 year old man.

So yeah, a man needs to have his “money right”, my definition, to date me.

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Good Morning,

Let me see if I understand this. When it comes to dating, the men are saying most women want style over substance and the women disagree with that notion. The women are saying they prefer a date with substance over style and the men are disagreeing with that notion. Is this correct?

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There is a difference between penny pitching out of necessity and making a conscious choice to make frugal decisions about how you spend your money.

I am very much attracted to the latter. I like it that TheDude and I are on the same wavelength when it comes to our attitudes about spending money.

And for the record, I pay as often as he does when we hang out. Or actually, more to the point, when it’s my suggestion that we hang out, I’m the one that pays. Just makes sense to me.

But to answer the question posed – no, I am definitely not spending TOO much on dating.

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SimpleMan, you just may be surprised at the number of women that are more than okay with going to the dollar show.

When the personality is there it does not take a bank of money to pull a good decent woman.

But when you lack personality, individual sex appeal and charm, then yes you just may be getting dates based on spending big.

If you are not finding quality woman that are willing to give you the time on a mere dime, then you need to check yourself.

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All thses years I have spent working and being smart with my loot to get to a point where I can enjoy life with watching the meter and now You ladies are telling me that you would rather have a up and commer????

Don’t get me wrong…money is nice too.

But look at Tiger Woods. Everyone was dissing Ellen for getting as much money as she did cuz HE was the established one and made the money. Doesn’t matter that he CHOSE her and chose to give her a lifestyle.

You just never have to worry about you being burned for not bringing more to the table when you were there to help build the empire.

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I don’t mind going to the dollar movie if we CHOOSE to go to the dollar movie. However, I am probably going to give you the side eye if we HAVE to go to the dollar movie.

I find it much more attractive for someone who has it and chooses to spend it wisely as opposed to someone who doesn’t have it to spend in the first place.

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Sidebar – I hate voice mail.

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@Simple – i said my stance was the same whe dating, and i dont mean just dating mr.blue either. one dude, first date we met after work and went window shopping in NYC(didnt buy a thing) and drinks at a bar with a rooftop section, checked out the NYC skyline and the pier while getting to know each other, had a great time…another dude, first date – we drove in his little red hatchback to teh local state park to watch the waterfall, first time id ever been to a waterfall, had a great time…its not just about being established already as a couple, first dates and early dates can be laid back and low cost too, just gotta put some thought into it.

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When I go to a concert, or the Hawks game, I want to have the best seats availble..

Me too. I get a lot of hookups with my job. I’m usually in nice seats or a suite. HOWEVER, when I pay for the ticket, I’m buying nose bleeds and sitting in the empty seats left by the fat cats and corporations who don’t go.

*shrugs* Don’t judge me for working the system!

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and the fly dressed chics sporting expensive gucci bags ain’t looking at the dude in cheap clothing and rugged shoes either

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ok, I’mma gon’ be cocky and say it….I’m some’n like that dude Diva describes…..I don’t need to wear my money on my sleeves to pulla chic…I know, yeah, I said it, I KNOW I got it….

and that same cockiness/arrogance/machismo/personality/swag, or whatever, that enables me to pull chics, also enables me to get money…

in the words of Wise Diva, “getchu some!”

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But when you lack personality, individual sex appeal and charm, then yes you just may be getting dates based on spending big – exactamundo….

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Wise Diva…I don’t assume to know you…Just as you don’t know me…I have never offered any judgment on anyone or their values or the Type of person they are pursuing. My point is that Broke dudes don’t get alot of play and thats from a guys perspective. Not once have I had anything negative about the ladies. I simply gave my thoughts. I never say anything out of pocket to the ladies here…These are stronging wonderful women, with strong solid opions. My experiences don’t mean I am fishing in the shallow end of the pool, they are just like yours..they are what they are…..

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I can’t count the number of times that women (often on this very blog) have said, “if a guy’s broke, then he shouldn’t be dating.”

Dreams – I’ve not been here on the blog long, so I haven’t witnessed that. I do remember stating on more than one occasion that a man shouldn’t think about dating if he is unemployed…which is different than broke.

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hello, all! hope you’re all good…

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@czBrat

Yeah we are getting something out of it which is we are taking ourselves out also and she is really along for the ride. Thats why dating really is not tricking because you are getting something out of it also.

Now if I pay her comcast bill, that is trickin!

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But when you lack personality, individual sex appeal and charm, then yes you just may be getting dates based on spending big
yeah ok, well I’ll let those dudes do that. I’ll stick to meteor showers, Hammonds House, midnight chocolate buffets, free outdoor movies and the like.

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The old money issue….would I date a guy who is broke…no …who is going to be spending money most of the time?? I don’t understand the concept of a free date some money has to be spent somewhere it might not be dinner but gas to drive…

Would I date if I was broke …no…because I do like to treat as well. Perfect scenario for me is like a 60/40 ratio…only because I am a bit spoiled and that would be something that he does on his own …if he doesn’t 50/50 is fine. The ratio is spending on dating…going out and etc.

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Anybody that is broke (literally or figuratively, financially, emotionally, mentally or whatever form of brokenness there is), male or female, shouldn’t be dating. They should be focused on getting their sht straight.

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kimmie…Tell me where did I say anything about flashing wealth???? Where did I mention anything of the sort???

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I am trying to understand the disconnect and so far so good. Ladies, what is your definition of “broke”? Is it just financial or is it something else? Anyone can be financially broke and be a great individual. But, if you are financially sound but spiritually broke , that is a different matter.

Just my thoughts!!

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Weigh in on this scenario

You are on a first date with a pretty cool guy.

He takes you to Ruth’s Chris.

Dinner was great and yall had a really nice time.

The check comes and he looks at it startled and gets up with it and heads for the hostess stand.

You see him talking, words are exchanged and then he comes back to the table looking concerned.

You, of course, ask him if everything is okay because, again…he’s looking concerned.

He says he’d heard on the radio that there was a 3-course special for $39.99 and thought that was still going on but that it ended last week.

He doesn’t say anything else but he STILL looks EXTREMELY concerned.

What, if anything, do you do?

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kimmie,

Wise Diva, no fighting on the blog. LOL

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@Dreams – now i would have enjoyed that date, been thinking of getting into star gazing and all w/o children….with them its all “its a full moon, werewolves!!!” but two grown folks watching the alignment, that has potential….
@SexyC/Trevor – i agree that broke in wahtever sense, financial, spiritual, emotional, means you should be taking some time to heal whatever it is thats broke b4 you start bringing other people in. not necessarily have all the ducks in a row, but get that initial sting out the way, so that when you do meet someone, you have something to offer them – namely a person whos head is in the game not in whatever situation has you broke….

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Swiss – you are 100% correct with your 11:26 posts..

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Swiss – you are 100% correct with your 11:26 posts..

Vote – not necessarily. I’ll drive, I’ll spring for gas. What then?

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some of my best dates have been things like driving up i-9, window-shopping in the antique markets upstate, just hanging out at the falls or on the bluffs feeding chipmunks and talking, baby-sitting friend’s kids at the park…it doesn’t take money to make a connection, and if a guy leans too heavilyl on that, alot of women wonder if there’s much (or any) more to him/the relationship. most women i’ve known are more into things that bespeak a personal interest in and (after enough time has passed for him to have acquired some)personal knowledge of her; anybody can spend money – even broke people; it’s the paying attention and caring that makes the difference.

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Pay for my portion of the meal and thank him for the outing…..

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WD, Captain Obvious huh, then ACT like it. Why do we have to jump through hoops explaning things that seem so simple?

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@Purple Rain how about on the sidelines that I am about to the point of taking Mr. M up on his offer of a return engagement.

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The obvious, a dude needs money to date. If he got a car, there is gas money, if he riding Marta (like the stud that catches WD eyes), then he needs marta money …

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Chink – Pay for my portion of the meal and thank him for the outing…..

But we’re going on a moneyless date…so we’re not eating. I’m driving you (being the man), what well thought out plans do you have? It is possible to date without spending. Know you’re woman and what she likes. You don’t need money to know or figure that out.

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This topic is boring.

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Celisea – Chink was answering my 11:22.

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Kym:

You brought out good points nobodys right or wrong here just different. It takes money just to walk out the door everyday like you said it’s all about wahts makes you happy.

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Swiss – Are you going to pick up the check & pay the tab every time? Because if not, dude’s going to need some cash of his own at some point…

For today’s topic and the effort to cut back and not “spend too much”…dinner tabs are out. We’re getting creative so, what? That’s what we’re asking. I mean we know dinner and such calls for money but we’re SOOOOO open to something other than or in addition to that. Something deeper. Something from you.

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Learn how to cook, make a basket and have her meet you in the park. That would go a long way, well it would with the type of woman I like.

I really don’t understand why money is an issue of concern, everyone needs some amount of money to survive and do things. Some people just have different spending habits. I will say that if money limits your creativity in dating you are in for a roller coaster ride.

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Chink – cosigning your definition of broke.

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I don’t know about this one; this a slippery slope! You women are something else sometimes. No one specific, just in general …

Women in some ways compel men to go all out financially when dating and it’s not really anything they say verbally, but like Wise Diva mentioned earlier … many women have “Spend that $$$” oozing from their pores (I’m twisting it a little). I don’t have a problem with that but I believe there are quite a few Ladies reading or commenting on this blog that would co-sign the “You don’t have to re-finance the house to take me out” sentiment but are even quicker to have a “cheap mutha****” demeanor when put in that situation.

There are plenty dudes that can keep it simple, inexpensive, thoughtful as well as entertaining. But are these the Guys that really get the dates with you Ladies???

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I’ve hardly read anything this morning, so forgive me if I’m all out of place, but ummm…

Simple Man – Not trying to call you out, but I remember asking you if you assumed that women who asked more of you financially on first meet thought more highly of themselves than women who didn’t. You went into some vague explanation that you preferred a ‘certain’ caliber of women…women in your league. Pretty much, you preferred women who expected more from you financially off the bat…from then on you’ve suggested that you don’t want a golddigger.

I don’t know how to interpret that.

You are paying the fee for the women you are attracted to. So are the other men on the blog. I don’t see how that reflects on women in general. I assume it reflects your preference.

Water meets its own level.

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@ da_man: there is a huge difference between ‘cheap’ and ‘broke’(any definition of broke); broke implies a lack of ability, cheap implies a lack of willingness, which, imo, says alot more about a person’s character.

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@Da Man I would guess not cause from what I am reading here..those dudes are picking women who want everything including their pocket lint.

Like I said before..seems like the dudes might want to pick better.

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Whats up Evy???

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Well, I’m wondering do men think if you don’t put out she won’t put out? Seriously is that why so many think we think a date ain’t a date unless money is involved. For what Dreams mentioned…wine, snacks and a telescope…me personally I’d be more inclined to cozy up than sitting across the table and leaving with a fully tummy. Just me though.

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@ luvbug: “water meets its own level” – nicely put.

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Chink – I’m cosigning your definition too.

It’s about having your priorities in order. If you are having trouble making ends meet, you don’t have disposable income available, whether you are spending it on dates, clothes, video games, etc. Your money is just barely covering your basic living expenses. Your priority at that point is “making it”, surviving. You should not use your rent money to pay for a date or buy a video game. But some people do it.

And yes, to get technical, of course nothing in this world is truly free. You are going to have to pay for transportation. Even if you just buy coffee, gotta have money for that. But some folks barely have money to get to work and back. They shouldn’t be trying to date until they get on their feet.

I take the topic to mean, if all you have is money going for you, it’s rather sad. It’s going to take more than that to have a quality dating experience.

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@ sexy: good point with the baby issue; but – you don’t have to ‘date’ to fall into that hole – just sayin.

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SexyCool – LOL

Funny enough, I wouldn’t be surprised if broke people are meeting, dating and staying together easier that the middle/upper middle folks.

Broke folks may know their (perceived) worth a little better than the rest.

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@ kym: missed that comment earlier – but dayum! too funny…too sad…

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I wish I could speak with the men or man that’s been in their life.
Voter, i wish you could too.

There are plenty dudes that can keep it simple, inexpensive, thoughtful as well as entertaining. But are these the Guys that really get the dates with you Ladies???
i’m tired of saying it but, yes. now i’m ready to take a long stroll and come back later cuz on these topics most simply like to believe what they like to believe.

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y’know, all this back and forth over ‘worth’ of various kinds reminds me of an exchange from an old marilyn monroe movie, wherein, upon having been accused of being a gold-digger by the wealthy father of her beau, she insists that she loves his son, and asks essentially ‘what’s wrong with being pleased that he’s also rich?”, likening it to a woman’s looks – she says, “it’s like a girl being pretty; she doesn’t have to be, but, my goodness, it helps, doesn’t it?”

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White Man – I’m with you on your 11:37, next …

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@czbrat..wait for me it’s lunchtime..I brought my lunch..homemade chilli..(wait I wonder if that puts me in the broke or cheap group..LOL whateva)

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@ sexy: i concur in spades. re: your second comment – lol!

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Come on with the “broke people can’t date” rants. Everybody wants/needs love, affection, companioship, whatever. As a matter of fact, many people met that special person while they were in the thick of their brokeness (financial, emotional, spiritual, etc). There’s no perfect time of personal situation for meeting a good person. Should meeting someone be a priority during hardship? No, but there’s nothing wrong with meeting someone while you’re focusing on your hardships, financial or otherwise.

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Uh Simple Man?

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So, DreamsMat – would you date a broke chick? Living at her baby daddy sister’s house while she’s waiting on her HUD approval? Working at a minimum wage job that she takes the MARTA to because her credit is so bad that she can’t even buy a car when she gets her tax refund? Can’t get her hair or her nails done because she’s got to buy diapers?

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I would like to quote my bankruptcy professor..we are all in debt..there is debt that is current..and there is debt that is not. If you paying your bills and staying on track..then you are not debt free..you are current. Why? Cause the gas meter is still turning, the water meter is turning, GA Power is still raising rates and the meter turns..so unless we all going solar..digging wells etc.. we aim for current.

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The truth of the matter is its a situational decision whether or not to date someone who doesn’t have money. It doesn’t matter if he is “broke”, “unemployed”, “does not have a steady means of income”….really really doesn’t matter b/c if he has NOTHING to offer you he shouldn’t be dating you. I dated a guy that didn’t have a “steady means of income” but didn’t always expect me to pick up the check because of this…. I think what it boils down to is if you can’t think outside the box and find something to offer a chick then no we aren’t dating you.

Guys say we don’t check for guys who don’t APPEAR to have money. I don’t know if I have been trained to look that far into it. If he looks presentable he isn’t treating me like a means to his ends and he seems nice then he gets the time of day. You can lack funds and still look presentable. There is no excuse.

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Ared…Whats up Dear???

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To me broke means you don’t have any money to do the things you want to do…you are trying to make ends meet to pay your bills.

The Question is … Why would someone (male/female) in that situation (broke) be dating???

Chink – Two brokes together sharing their income is doable for some because combined they do okay.

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“A man that possesses quality characater and traits and “isms” can get it all.”

I see you, gal…..don’t mention “ism”….that’s a whole ‘nutha animal in itself…

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s’alright – wouldn’t be the first time someone called me “psycho’ – muahhahahaha!

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Oh…and DreamsMat, you’re right. Broke people should be able to date as much as they want to. They just can’t date me. LOL!

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Wow….can we agree to disagree? Lol

Seriously, seems like a majority of they guys are saying “Dating without money is not possible”, while the ladies are saying ” Yes, it is”. Now, we all know having to spend little to no money is going to affect where we can actually go.

Now since most of the women have stated they don’t mind expensive dates sometimes and look forward to the occassional picnic, $1 movie, or even nature walks—-I think the guys need to pay attention!!! GUYS: BE AT THE NEXT MEET AND GREET AND MEET ONE OF THESE WOMEN WHO ARE TELLING YOU THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE BALLIN’ TO DATE THEM!!! ……..I will wait to hear of any possible blog-connections…LOl!!

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@ da_man: i hear ya, and it sounds like you’re speaking from experience – maybe not firsthand, but i’m sure you’ve at least seen it happen. maybe the flip of that is that old saw about a woman ‘owing’ a man if he spends big on her – i’ve known alot of women who were a little leery when a man does flash the cash, b/c it makes them wonder/worry about what he may be expecting in return – most of us have either been in/seen that tired scene play out. imo, there’s alot to be said for being in a small pool…i think that most people fish in a small pond if they already know what’s in there – and know that that’s what they want.

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evy:……..LOL

Kym:

I have my eye on you cause I think you feel all us men will only date women we deem extravagant in order for us to engage ourselves. I don’t need that type of woman, yes have I been involved with that type now I look for the stable lady who has her own character.

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The fact is:

Women are NOT equal.
If they were equal, they would ask men out and pay for dates on an equal basis.
(And no RAqi… I don’t mean one lunch date in your Pinto. I’m talking on a regular basis.)

The man is EXPECTED to pay everytime with a few exceptions.
You know it’s true.

Face the facts. Women for the MAJORITY part will not date a guy who either appears to have no money or a guy who might be going through a tough time financially whether it is permanent or temporary.
Those are the facts and all you womens know so.

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Luv

Two brokes together sharing their income is doable for some because combined they do okay.

How is that possible? Someone is still going to be getting the short end of the stick. One will be doing ok the other will still be broke even more so!

Mind you I am going by my own defintion of broke …I am not sure how you define broke. Seems there are some different views on that.

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I hope my post wasn’t in violation…but I gotta say for my coworker, I’ve met her husband. He’s a pretty decent dude. Maybe he needed that woman to show him the way…LOL

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Radom thoughts in random order:

1) such a pain that I broke the glass covering my wall sconce.
2) where can I find a wall sconce cover
3) how the heck should I display my wedding kimono
4) where can I get bamboo rods to hang my wedding kimono
5) who can I get to help me mount the kimono on my wall
6)I whip my hair back and forth!
7) ugh! I am so tired of tiring to remove wall paper
Is Wise Diva commenting more since the blog plantationhad that unfortunate episode where our monikers were hijacked.
9) Does Wise Diva’s superiors have her on lock

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Come on with the “broke people can’t date” rants. Everybody wants/needs love, affection, companioship, whatever. As a matter of fact, many people met that special person while they were in the thick of their brokeness (financial, emotional, spiritual, etc). There’s no perfect time of personal situation for meeting a good person. Should meeting someone be a priority during hardship? No, but there’s nothing wrong with meeting someone while you’re focusing on your hardships, financial or otherwise.

@Dreams, very good points you brought out here.

Should the lack of money deny you the opportunity to meet that special someone? We never know who will be placed in our life at the moment we really need it.

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So, DreamsMat – would you date a broke chick?
SexyC Like I told Raqi, I’ve fished in almost every pond. Either I was in the same situation as the chick, or I HAD been there before and related to someone who was where I had once been. People experiencing hardships often meet people while they’re going through it. A person coming out of a divorce might meet someone during that time. People meet in rehab. Often the person you meet can relate to what you are going through.

Personally, my mom got divorced when I was a kid, took public transportation, had a job as a secretary and worked part-time at mcdonald’s, had subsidized housing, and had bad credit because my dad ditched her with all the bills. When she met her now husband of 20 years, she was still working through that situation. She since got her degree, teaches elementary school, and is working on her masters. You meet a person where they are in their life and determine if there’s a future for the the two of you.

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Hi All,
I thought the topic was about a guy in most cases leading with his wallet. And has dating really become a high expense. Am i missing something.
Has dating expectations changed in dating.

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We keep going back to broke, hardships, financial ruins, etc.

Are we spending too much on dating?

This is relative … If I’m “broke” almost anything is too much. But what if I’m not “broke” but just don’t want to do the extravagant “thing” initially on a date. You don’t really know me whether I spend too much or too little but one thing for sure, First Impressions are Everthing, which is why I called this a slippery slope.

The irony in my firsthand experience with this is listening to women (family & friends) rake a guy over the coals b/c he didn’t measure up financially on their date. Not that they were gold-digging or anything, I just believe they were expecting too much.

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random thought:

If I park all the way in the back (almost last row of parking spaces closer to Macon) why must you park next to me

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I didn’t take the topic to imply that money is not needed at some point in some form. It is. And yes it is very true that funds will be used when forming and maintaining a relationship. But I truly thought the topic was an attempt to get people to see that you can date and not have to go broke doing it. You know, finding like minded individuals to date and being creative in showing your date a nice time out.

To say that the gas that is put in the car to go on the date is money spent is just folks thinking to darn literal. We all know it takes money to put fuel in the car but wouldn’t you need to put fuel in the car anyway. That like a woman saying she needs spend money to get her hair done for a date. Most women are getting their hair done anyway.

That’s a poor rebuttal. Money for gas in the car. LOL

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For me broke is not having money do anything. Your bills aren’t paid, you bumming money to ride the bus, you bumming food from lunch from your coworkers yet you still get a pay check every week or two.

You don’t have to be rich but you don’t have to be broke either.

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There seems to be a major disconnect between the genders regarding financial means and dating. The blog ladies are contending that you generally don’t need much money to date and that simple, inexpensive dates while really getting to know someone is quite acceptable and the way to go (what I will call organic dating). However, the men don’t quite see it that way.

Organic dating from my experience has been something that is generally sprung after you’ve established a rapport with someone after a few dates. Suggesting a simple outing as an initial date should be a viable option and props to you ladies who have no problem with that. However, with a segment of women that move might get you rejected and/or labeled as a cheapskate or buster. But since the onus is on the men to impress the ladies into a date and we don’t know you yet, men will choose the option that enhances his chances for a positive response, i.e., a date with a little more substance. Hopefully after the first date a clearer picture will develop in terms of your dating activity preferences.

You may not need money to date but it probably improves the quality of the experience…

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Good afternoon all….I’m jumping in a little late here and usually just read and enjoy all the comments but could not hold back today…

@Simple Man…admitedly I have not read all the comments; however the one where you stated how much you had spent on dating this year, I almost choked. What’s wrong with you man???? I think you also have the wrong opinion of women, in general. Nothing wrong with Applebees. Every date doesn’t have to be a Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Also just to let you know we’re not all money grabbers many times I surprise a date by making a great home cooked meal, a nice wine and some great conversation. Or a nice little road trip to nowhere inparticular in a plain little ole car with a nice picnic lunch. It’s the company not the money.

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anyways……

so I last night I got suckered into watching that garbage, “Real Housewives of Atlanta”…ummm, am I the only one who thinks “Dr.” Tiy-E is a fraud??? could care less what shows he’s appeared on, I still think he’s a “snake oil salesman”!! and those chics on there……..lawd hammercy..

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LOL 2CPTG – Yeah he lost me at ‘who gone open the ketchup?’

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2Can – Google him. He was exposed as a fraud years ago.

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Is he a Dr.?? A real one??

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A Red, yeah, I did….and checked out his website….how you gon’ call yourself a Dr. when this is what’s listed on your website, as your credntials:

Ashwood University, Non-APA Accredited Program 1998-1999. Ph.D. (May, 1999) – Counseling Psychology

a non accredited school???

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Chevygal..I was just about to try and defend my dating expenses, but lets agree that the amount is realtive… Everydate is not on the high end, but i also see nothing wrong if a date ends up costing several hundred dollars….And truthfully, how hard is that to do??? Just a couple of months ago I went on a date to see a concert at Chastain and the tickets were $89.00 a piece. when you add in the cost of dinner and all of the extras, it ended up being a $400.00 night. Now for a night on the town with a nice lady, good company and stimulating conversation, would you consider that to much.

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@ cool shadow: hiya! good points – re: the disconnect; it seems that a large part of the problem is a largely gender-based difference of opinion as to how to define ’substantial’; expensive (which frequently also implies generic in an anyone-with-money-can-do-that sort of way) vs. less expensive or ‘free’ but more personal.

maybe what it comes down to is along the lines of what you said about enhancing one’s chances for a positive response…money is, after all, a tool, with no intrinsic value; – don’t most of us use whatever ‘tools’ we have at our disposal to ‘enhance our chances’?

with the ladies; ok – hair and nails, basic maintenance that they should be doing for themselves anyway…but don’t most of us try to do something at least a little ’special’ when going on a date? especially in the beginning? new dress, maybe, or our ‘best’ (read:expensive, saved-for-special-occasions) perfume? even if it’s an at-home date…we invite a guy over for dinner – are we more likely to boil hotdogs and out-of-the-box mac&cheese, or to hit the market for something fresh and nice and prepare it ourselves?

i think sometimes men and women agree and just don’t realize that they agree…

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Toucan – I agree.

And also, my last comment on the broke thing – I’m not balling out of control, by any means. However, the means that I make, I manage well. I see no problem with saying that I’m not looking to date a broke dude. It would be no different from someone saying, “I don’t date fat dudes, short dudes, ugly dudes.” I’m also not saying that I’m looking to date a millionaire. I’m just saying that I am dating and prefer to date a man that is on, at least, the same level that I am financially. Making a decent living, living within my means, with my needs met, with my bills *current* and something extra for a want or three every now and then.
That is all.

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Personal thought….I wonder If WiseDiva would take me out on one of those cheap dates er’body keep talking about????

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@Simple Man…The date you described sounds very nice and I think that is great for a special occasion, I just wouldn’t expect something like that as the norm. Also if a date spends that kind of thought and money I would like to in turn do something special for him. But my point was that my idea of a fun time doesn’t necessarily cost a lot of money. And I still think there is nothing wrong with Applebees. Heck, I still think the Varsity is fun…a little greasy but fun every now and then.
It doesn’t take a lot of money or a fancy car to impress me. Just a thoughtful and funloving personality. Guess I’m just old fashioned.

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Okay back from lunch..I am not reading to catchup are still talking about money matters and dating or what?

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still on expenses eh….to put things in perspective, imo, most women are looking for the same kind of guy that men tell their daugther they should be looking for…when Leggs was talking about lil Leggs wanting to borrow money so dude could take her out, even the guys were saying tell her back off or thats the kind of dude she’ll be with in her grown years, broke dudes who cant handle their money….
now take that principle and apply to grown ups, lather, rinse, repeat….

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And SexyCool, some of the best dates are at places that are off the social map.

These guys need to try being original and finding some of those little corner places without the flashy fancy names (Chop, Veni, Maggianos) and out of the chains (Chilis, RedL, LongHorns).

There are a lot of places with very nice ambiance and charm that are off the much beaten paths.

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i think sometimes men and women agree and just don’t realize that they agree…

@evy- You’re probably right on that far more than we realize. That’s a great point you brought up, the relative state of “expensive vs. substantial”. A $300-$400 date might be pennies in the bucket for a baller with a multi-million signing bonus but a recoverable financial blow for some of us other mere mortals and out of the question for some of us still. But the bottom line is that if the potential is the date from hell no amount of money can atone for that.

For a first date, we put a good foot forward but not necessarily our best. For example, that may consist of a slick outfit especially when hanging out. If things progress, then we may escalate what we have to offer and after a comfort level is established we sometimes may pull back a little. But the first date probably won’t be sweats but not a tuxedo either.

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Good afternoon…have the natives been behaving themselves?

Whew! I am tired. Should have went straight home from my meeting by airport…nothing like passing your exit and sighing!!!

What’s going on in here????

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I find it hilarious how many men expect their love interest to share their interest in sports however they don’t see it necessary or even normal if a woman wants a man to not even share in her interest but at least be willing to spend with her while doing what doing what she likes.

I am not asking you be interested in or know what a camisole, a cardigan or a garter is just be willing to spend the time with me and possibly carry the bags.

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Afternoon All,

I see the great debate is on again. Without reading the comments I’ll go ahead and agree with the fellas. i also know that none of the blog ladies prescribe to this attitude. hahaha

My opinion – I think we only deem spending too much when our expectations are not met. I usually avoided that by making sure I choice well upfront. The predate convo’s will usually give you a heads up on what type of expectations your date has. I’d much rather meeting for happy Hour and getting to know you a lil better before I start randomely doling at cash at whatever restaurant or date spot.

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Good DreamsM can’t complain! How are you? Good post today to sir!

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Random Thought: I wonder how many dudes on the blog had Hammer pants and high top fades?

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Leggs:

Hello sweetness how was your meeting today?

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After readinga few of the posts it seems as though the usual is occuring. Line drawn in the sand for what? Several of the blog ladies have defined what broke is or isnt to them. Blog dudes have TRIED to explain how it is in the field. I will say that for the most part the Dudes are right to have the assumption that you are gonna have to spend to get in the game. I will also agree with the ladies in that the dating pool does have it fair share of Women who ar not into it for the perks. As Men w already know the rules going in. its our job to be better at pre-qualifying these Chicks that can get in the ride so to speak.

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In other words Willie D.. PICK BETTER.

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@ARed…to answer your question I think a concert of that expense (including dinner and drinks) would definitely be a special date.
I am on the downhill side of 40 and am a very down to earth person.
I’m not destitue by any means, have a very good management job and a nice home but am not extravagant. I’ve learned after some good and some bad relationships it’s not where you go or how much you spend getting there but the fun you had with the person you were with.
Don’t get me wrong those kinds of dates are nice but I wouldn’t be comfortable doing that all the time…just not me.

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On topic:

Women seek security from men. – Translation Money!

Men seek the comfort of a woman. – Translation Azz!

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@Kym – i loved my jellies…tho that sweaty plastic smell was never cool…and if you step in a puddle you slip and slide, but still…why do they only make em in midget sizes…..

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Women seek security from men. – Translation Money!

Men seek the comfort of a woman. – Translation Azz!

So what you saying Real? We (men/women) negotiating the price? A fair price?

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That sounds very familiar.

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LMAO @ For Real. good to see you dude.

blue/Kym … i had jellies but they were uncomfortable as all getout when you walk on rocks all day.

and remember when biking shorts were casual wear? ugh!

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Women that say they look for the simple things in life. – Translations: Learned the value of the dollar the hard way.

Men dating in the champagne life. – Translation: It’s the only way I can get some azz.

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@Kym – i had clear ones, and in my teens had a pair of clear ones with a little stack heel, loved ‘em!
@cz – oh, the little embroidered ones? they were always so pretty, but not good for walkign to much, the soles were too thin…whats with you and the walkingon rocks? lol

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Luvbug: That grain of ism was brought you courtesy of Truth and yes we do but ain’t nothing fair in this life. All we can hope for is an equatable exchange.

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Everybody was kung fu fighting! Huh!

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Off Topic – Dayum my Cowboys sux

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WD:

You have plenty of time to get off that band wagon……..LOL

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Those cats were fast as lightning! Huh!

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I meant “can’t say I would” but I know…we’ve moved on to jellies and wham sweatshirts

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Celisea, plastic and heat = melting. LOL One of the worse days I had a SixFlags.

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Sure we all like to feel special and have that Cinderella experience but that’s not everyday life.

A concert and dinner is hardly a “Cinderella” experience. It saddens me to see the low expectations of women today. Concerts aren’t meant to be experienced alone. And if you happen to meet someone into such a thing…just be grateful he wants to experience it with you and has the means to make it happen.

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I have an Olympic Swatch from working at the Olympics. Only wore it then, now just keep it in the jewelry box as a souvenir.

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All we can hope for is an equatable exchange.
Real I think people really care if the exchange is equitable. People want the best deal (for them) for the lowest investment…trying to get rich off penny stocks! lol

those catch 22 are a mofo lol……a start has to start though but i digress…..lol funny DreamsM
Lady you all good with me. oh did I mention we’re going there on my bike…you have to ride on the handle bars.

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Blackfoote – no bandwagon for me. Diehard member since 72.

4Real – true true true

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Leggs – they were cute and “in” and came in an array of colors…LOL I bought the ones where the strap went around the ankle…too sexy…I thought…LOL

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I can ride my own bike sir and we can walk the chattahoochee trail then dinner in the Vinnings area and wine honey! its nothing but a thang! actions! lol you are cool with me too! did you do Morehouse’s HC?!?

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@ARed. I didn’t mean Applebees was the Cinderella experience. That is the every day experience. But the “special times” such as trips or very expensive evenings are what I consider the Cinderella experience. I guess it all depends on the kind of life style you are used to. And by the way, I’m on the other side of 40. Have had some Cinderella experiences and remember them with great fondness but still enjoy the every day ones as well.

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Dreams – I don’t know if I can do it but I won’t say it’s not possible to have a happy ending.
Celisea dang, I thought you was gonna give me a shot. lol

I almost asked with you talking about wine and snacks and telescopes. I was about to offer the blanket I almost took a sip and I haven’t had alcohol in a few years.

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Loafers and knee socks with pleated skirt and Izod shirt.

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Raqita – I did, wore that banana clip all day!!! LOL!!

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Raqi – I wore all that preppy stuff!

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Who is bold enough to admit they wore stir-up pants?

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Chevysgirl – Yes, I understand Applebee’s was your “everyday” experience choice and I find that kinda sad at 40+

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kimmie, I loved the preppy look and that was one fashion era that my parents totally found no fault in for us. LOL

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I can ride my own bike sir and we can walk the chattahoochee trail then dinner in the Vinnings area and wine honey!
Lady I run that trail, so I’m familiar. And I’m always game for a good wine. A german white or a chilean red are my preferrences. Now you know I was out there for homecoming! the weather was perfect, the food was good, the drinks were flowing…was a good time.

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stirup pants with the wham shirt..and green or pink neon socks.

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I had a Banana clip, 2 to be exact. Oh u were talking to the ladies.

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banana clip —-> check (still got one)
stirrup pants —-> check
boots with built-in leg warmers —-> check

whats with you and the walkingon rocks?
panama, gurl. roads were either dirt or rocks but seldom paved. and the rocky roads are actually considered to be the ‘good’ roads cuz your shoes don’t get all muddy. LOL!

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Raqi, Are you from here???

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Yes I am from here.

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Jordache jeans?

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Who said big hair? My brothers use to call me Pebbles. I would upsweep all my hair on top of my head with a bang….and spray it up there so it would hold…a HUGE ball.

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Long Horns to this day is an at least twice a month spot for us.

Waffle House, Chili’s, Cheesecake Factory….

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Riding boots?

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Wearing your collar propped up and your jeans rolled up.

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ARed – is there an age when you get too old to go eat at Applebee’s?

No. My 60 year old mother LOVES Applebees.

But there should come a point in your life where a first date, or a date in general, requires higher standards than Applebees. That shouldn’t be your benchmark.

In addition, a date is special. Nothing to make the 6 o’clock news, but with ANY type of effort, a differerent place should be chosen.

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@ARed…don’t be sad for me…like I said it’s not where you go it’s who you’re with. I don’t need fancy restaurants to have a nice time.
I’m good.

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strir-up pants, white legwarmser, purple leg warmers, rainbow belt, jellies, banana clip, 1 swatch watch, 1 watch with interchangeable wristbands, and to top it off I rolled my jeans like twice at the bottoms, and paired with the really big slouch socks- the look would not be completed without shoelace-less keds.

What else you got Raqi? Bring it.

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I didn’t have Sebagos but Jordache Jeans, Sergio Valente (sp), Members Only, oh not leg warmes…yes leg warmers. Oh please don’t forget HEADBANDS. Olivia Newton John did that for me.

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I don’t need fancy restaurants to have a nice time.

Completely NOT the point.

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British Knights.

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adidas= all day I dream about sex

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Former Michael Jackson. I had all the outfits – except this one where he had on a pale yellow sweater vest over a white button up and white slacks.

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DreamsMat – Shell Toe Adidas with bout 4-5 different color shoe-strings to match ya shirt, or either the classic pair of Stan Smiths

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I know for a fact that there must be somebody on the blog that had a pair of these:

http://vintagegent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/picture1.jpg

Z. Cavaricci

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lawd, Leggs. YES on the candies. i had a couple of those after grease hit the big screen. those were he!! on the rocks too. (dang my childhood was painful )

Jordache Jeans, Sergio Valente
don’t forget about gloria and calvin! LOL

george michael(neon and oversized) —> check
madonna (exposed lingerie & lacey socks) —-> check
mimai vice (south beach pastels as career wear) —> check
michael jackson (thriller pleather) —-> check

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Yes Raqi – Really. If you and Mason were going on a date, even a first date and he asked for a suggestion, you’re gonna throw out Applebee’s?

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Shell Toe Adidas with bout 4-5 different color shoe-strings to match ya shirt, or either the classic pair of Stan Smiths
LOL I still have shell toes and stan smiths in my wardrobe. Don’t wear the name buckle or the gazelles anymore though. haha

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That was MY point. You make it sound like it’s a bad thing to go to Applebees. Not like I go there every week, but still think it’s a fun place to go. I go lots of different places and as I said, with the right person they are all fun. I’m sure when I’m 60 I’ll still be going there. Nothing wrong with that.

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Chevygal – I didn’t say anything is wrong eating at Applebee’s. Just makes me think your standards are kinda low for dates, especially at your age. Just my opinion.

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Dreams – I never STOPPED curving the brim of my hats, lol!

Oooooh Cross Colours……so very 90’s! I loved Cross Colours….

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What bruh on the blog did not shop at either Oak Tree or Chess King at least once?
Trevor awwwww man, I did. I’ll even admit to buying the 2 for $99 suits in there, one green, the other gold. (bowing head in shame) lol

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too funny!!
thanx for the laughs. meeting time

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Oak Tree @ South Dekalb Mall was my Spot!!! My brother worked there one summer and I’ll bet he spent every dime he made buying their clothes!!

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@Simple Man ~ why the heck are you wearing a helment????

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But – ARed, if he’s up and coming, which you said you don’t mind, wouldn’t an Applebee’s be about all that he could afford? And isn’t a meal at Applebee’s at about the same price point as one at Intermezzo?

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You gotta answer my question first Raqi.

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SCool – If he’s up and coming, I’d rather he be creative. Applebee’s ain’t it.

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@ARed…I din’t know standards were age related. I have the same standards today as I had in my 20’s. I was down to earth then and am still today. If that is considered low standard in your opinion. oh well. Not to me. I don’t base my standards on money. Enjoy the local retaurants, O’Charleys, Longhorn, etc. not like I’m dining at the local landfill or anything….

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But Amazon what is wrong with Applebee’s in comparison to all the other chains?

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Who tried, at least once….to wear their pants backwords…:?:

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Applebees food really sucks!
So does TGIF

For Real?

I agree with everything u said.
More money, more options

Less money if you are a dude: more up and down scrutiny as they look at your shoe game and and a face!

Women?

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Same thing Ared is caught in now!!!

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ARed – Your statement about Applebees sort of refutes what we (women) said earlier and clarifies what the men said. Honestly somebody I’m really feeling, we can do Applebees. I sort clump along with Chilis (love them), OCharleys, TGIFs…I like ‘em all. Especially this 2 for what thingy. I got $30 in gift cerficates right now for Chilis…

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Amazon,I agree with you about Apebees.

That food ain’t even palatable

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Amazon if you need a certain ambiance and a certain price tag to make an evening nice you can’t be to into the man you are with.

If you really like a guy you are going to like him sharing a bowl of popcorn at the neighborhood fair.

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Raqi, I LOVE me some Waffle House! Those waffles & hash browns are no joke!!!

Dreams – Okay, scratch the wine & park thing. Let’s go to Waffle House instead!!

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cheesesteak omlette with hashbrowns, scattered, smothered, covered, topped

Mason is that you?

DreamsMat, that reads just like him. LOL

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Celisea?

How much is a good loot by your standards

Loot is relative.

Nobody on this blog is spending $200.00 on a first date!
Uall just regular

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Simple Man – I’m not caught in anything. Women have said you don’t have to have money, just be creative. How is Applebee’s creative out of all the other choices in the world.

I didn’t bring up spending loot. I did say that a guy WANTED to spend loot on you and he had the means, what’s the problem? Don’t settle for less if you don’t have to.

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Amazon if you need a certain ambiance and a certain price tag to make an evening nice you can’t be to into the man you are with.

If you really like a guy you are going to like him sharing a bowl of popcorn at the neighborhood fair.

No sh.yt! Again, that’s not my point.

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@ARed..No that is not a true statement. I said I would have enjoyed myself as much at the free concert but wouldn’t have felt it was being extravagant at SOMEONE ELSE’s expense. I still had the same amount of enjoyment. No different standard there.

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Ared, we are >>>>>>>>> here <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Chevygal – You wrote it in black and white. Cinderella vs everyday. It was much different and it was based on money. It’s a GIVEN you’d enjoy yourself (we’d hope).

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@SimpleMan ~ ok…I got your drift!

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Who is bold enough to admit they wore stir-up pants?

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olem…

“Nobody on this blog is spending $200.00 on a first date!”

Yeah….I do…. You can get to $200.00 pretty easily…..

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What is the most expensive gift you ever got from someone you dated?

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Okay, Amazon, if it’s not the money then what is it? What is so bad about the place that you feel it is low standard? I am just asking?

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any blog gal wanna go on a date, then come back and blog about it?

I thought that already had happened?…

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Olem
one of your fellow zulu is a finalist for the international Rhodes Scholarship. I believe her name is Nazele (sp?).

kimmie waffle house is good with me…meet at the one on chamblee dunwoody. you can go all out! lol

Mason is that you?

DreamsMat, that reads just like him.
Raqi sounds like he knows how to eat good.

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Ambience can be set anywhere.

I didn’t bring up ambiance. You’re out in left field.

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I was just trying to understand your viewpoint as relates to Applebee’s, that is all.

But I gotchu – Applebee’s lacks creativity. Lack of creativity is a turn off.

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And don’t get me wrong, I love nice gifts. I love expensive gifts and nice restaurants. But hell we ain’t balling like that. We have to live every day.

In fact I am frying chicken for dinner tonight alongside some broccoli and corn. Cheap. LOL

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“What is the most expensive gift you ever got from someone you dated?”

Is that directed to the men or the ladies???

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T.I. is talking to all Cowboy fans so that they don’t commit suicide.

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Amazon, do you feel that way about all chain restaurants?

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So if you date Ared you need money, personality and creativity that she approves of.

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Simple?
at your prolific dating pace seems u date to impress then slide the nikkers?

Coz looking at your MO if u were doing it to marry u wod be by now?

Am I wrong?
Not many on this blog(men) spend that much on a first date,I can guarantee u that.

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Well, I’m not gonna stir this pot any more. I’ve been here since 7:00 am so I’m outta here. Think I’ll got by Applebees for some dinner.

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I think the most expensive gift some can get from dating is AIDS or a baby. LOL

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We are still on the money I see..

@Blue you can go ahead and put me down for the 2nd blog meet up..until further notice.

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Whatever, Melo. (Third try.)

You can make decisions about being with or not being with a person at any point in a relationship before or after anything has happened or not happened.

Please don’t you disturbed about sht I do.

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I guess I got kicked into moderation for some reason. LOL!

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Ared – I didn’t bring up ambiance. You’re out in left field.

I did…you said –> Why do I care? I am NOT talking about money. What else is there then? Good company, good vibes, good atmosphere…all reasons to eat somewhere cheap and not mind. I’d say that’s ambience.

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I’m with Simple on the $200 thang but you can slow them down if carry $200 in nickles and dimes.

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Celisea – I was saying “why do I care” if my views feed more into the men’s point? I don’t.

And yes, there is more than ambiance, so I again, I wasn’t talking about that nor did I care about that either.

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Kimmie: Can I “Do You”?

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@For Real..ohhh yeah..what a horrible horrible game..its like their defense just walked away.

Random Thought..Why is it 83 degrees in late October? Not that I am complaining..but still.

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kimmie, that easy for you to cheat on me?

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Exactly, Rock.

And the food at Applebee’s and places like it – is just food. A plain, old All American menu. It is food that is designed to get you full, not offer you a culinary orgasm. (If it were, it’d be a pricier place.)

They sell the same food at The Brake Pad, but because you’re sitting in a trendy spot that is a converted garage with patio space, all of a sudden it seems more of an experience.

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Kimmie: Oh and I got $200 too. For Real now putting on 13 change dispensers on his belt.

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@Sexy I use to live right down the road from the The Brake Pad..cool spot..

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4Real – Stop by the change exchange thing at Kroger before our date. I don’t want you embarrassing me up in Waffle House!!LOL!!

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Isn’t though, K to tha? And you can’t get almost the exact same food that they sell at AB’s.

I also like the little spot “Our Place” a few doors down. Great for sandwiches and dessert.

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@kimmie can you get For Real to spring for a Double Patty Melt Plate for me? scattered smothered and covered please?

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are you talking about Celtics vs Heat game. I’m looking forward to the game tonight too. Hope Celtics can take it to the finals again, but I’m feeling the Heat too

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Because it’s not about where I am, it’s about who I’m with.

But I’m versatile, I can eat at AB’s, the same way I can eat at The Commerce Club or at Atlanta Grill.

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Olem…Is $200.00 really that much out of line for you??? Yesterday the ladies were talking about going to see Prince in concert…Any idea what those tickets are gonna cost??? In fact I am going to see Cirque De Solei at Atlantic station and those tickets were more than a hundred dollars each….

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That’s because you only go during work hours, Melo.

But you keep to your definitions of and opinions about what’s trendy and I will keep to mine….as it seems we are going to do anyway.

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Every time I type m e l o ’s name, I get sent to moderation.

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Did Prince release where the tour was going yet?

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Simple? 4.52?
but they are spending on themselves not on somebody from the street

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Me too, PR, me too!!!!

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SCool – Same here with zulu’s name! Oh well!!

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