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Should women cover up to get respect?

I have been focused on the news story about the female reporter treatment in the locker room and on the sidelines.  The fact that she was dressed “provocatively” is front and center.  I have noticed that radio personalities, sports writers, etc.  comment more about the woman’s outfit and not the behavior of the players.

Not surprising.  I am curious what everyone thinks about how a woman’s clothes impacts the way she is treated.  If she is not covered enough does it mean she wants to get disrespected?

What are your thoughts on female reporters in sports? Do you think they belong in the locker rooms to interview players?

I have regretted wearing a particular outfit because I ended up getting male attention that made me uncomfortable.   The thing is, when dressed conservatively, I have still received more of the same attention that made me uncomfortable.  Should women have to cover up to get respect?

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Susan McGuire

September 15th, 2010
11:16 am

If you’re going to work as a sports reporter…and part of that job entails going into a locker room where athletes are going to be strutting around nude sometimes…then you should dress professionally, not like you’re going out “clubbing”.
I’m proud to consider myself a feminist, even a rather militant one…but it is the height of stupidity how some feminists always insist that a woman should wear anything she damn well pleases at any time, under any situation…and nobody should say a thing about it. If you demand to be treated in a considerate, professional manner…then dress and act as if you DESERVE it.

Luvbug

September 15th, 2010
11:16 am

Joshua Barlowe

September 15th, 2010
11:19 am

If you dress like a hooch, you will get treated like a hooch.

middleoftheroadandtiredofit

September 15th, 2010
11:20 am

Professionals don’t wear skin tight jeans and shirt, with unkempt hair hanging down, in any business situation. Having been a successful professional woman for many years, in the military, law enforcement, and corporate world, I know how to dress in a conservative dress up environment and in a business casual environment. And this outfit wasn’t either. A nice pantsuit with hair styled neatly would have conveyed her professionalism and her attractiveness. Are there any unattractive female sports reporters on networks? I mean, a former Ms. Universe contestant! What journalistic and/or sports experience did she bring? Unfortunately men are often men and athletes more than most in behaving badly in the jockerroom. If she were a true professional she would have looked the part and acted the part, including ignoring the boorish but harmless whistles and footballs. Plus, I was once a cheerleader and swimsuit competition contestant but didn’t flash either around as I tried to be taken seriously as a professional. And the hot latina reference is a new one; is that like being a hot blond?

Female Opinion

September 15th, 2010
11:21 am

If you want to be treated professionally, dress professionally. If you want to be treated like a cheap tart, dress like one. This female thought what happened to the reporter was outrageous until I saw George Stephanopoulos with her cleavage peak-a-boo top yesterday. She not only dresses like a tart, she is bucking for attention. She got it all right. They are men and football players, not monks.

Female Opinion

September 15th, 2010
11:22 am

should have said saw the George Stephanopoloulos interview with her

kimmie

September 15th, 2010
11:24 am

Folks love to play crazy when they don’t get the reaction they want when they exercise their “rights”. With supposedly no knowledge of “reality”. I had to counsel a young lady I supervised when I worked for a major bank. This lady was very good at her job and wanting to get promoted. She also wanted to get a nose ring, to go along with her bellybutton ring. Of course, banks are very conservative. They barely dealt with her cornrows. I told her she could do whatever she wanted, but realistically she could forget a promotion if she got that nose ring. The belly ring she could cover up.

She got the nose ring anyway, which was against the dress code. She walked around with a bandaid on her nose. And no, no promotion.

:shock:

Raqi

September 15th, 2010
11:24 am

Kym, I remember the very first attempt at casual day. Like you said folks came up in there looking they were going to a pool party. We had to put some boundaries on it. It’s still a work environment not to mention the company shared a building with other establishments. There were customers and vendors going in and out of those other companies’ offices and it was just a bad look. Every time casual day rolled around that memo went out as a reminder.

We had a company family picnic one time and this one lady showed up with some shorts so short you almost see her butt cheeks. And there were kids present. A couple of her work friends did tell her they thought she needed to go home and change but she just eventually became annoyed with them, left and didn’t return. What she wore got her some unwanted comments from some of the men while in the office for many days to follow after that picnic. And she did not show up for anymore company picnics, after hour dinners or anything else outside of business hours.

pj

September 15th, 2010
11:25 am

Women are not responsible for what men do.

wheelz007

September 15th, 2010
11:26 am

I don’t mind female sports reporters one bit. Anyone that’s qualified and interesting is fine by me.

However, we’re men. We’re always looking. If you don’t want someone looking or commenting, cover it up.

There’s a fine line between professional attire and provocative attire.

DreamsMaterialize

September 15th, 2010
11:26 am

Morning
Men and women need to be responsible and mature. Men need to respect women and not use copouts like “environment”, “outfit”, “projected image” to determine how they should act. A man’s principles are what they are ALL the time. On the flip side, a woman needs to understand that some behavior can be avoided by dressing a certain way. If you suspect that you’re going into an environment where there’s the high possibility that guys will behave poorly and disrespectful, then talk/act/dress in a way that minimizes that possibility…don’t add fuel to the fire. Bottom line is that people (men and women) need to stop making excuses for bad decisions.

kimmie

September 15th, 2010
11:29 am

A dude that rolls up at his job at a conservative law firm, dressed thuglike, with pants draging, underwear showing, tatted up in a wife-beater, what reaction do you think he would get? Or he rolls up dressed like a pimp. They could have the greatest legal minds ever, but nobody would ever know.

That’s just the way things are, right or not.

Luvbug

September 15th, 2010
11:29 am

Bottom line is that people (men and women) need to stop making excuses for bad decisions.

Yep!!

fisherman

September 15th, 2010
11:29 am

She went fishing and was suprised when the fish went after the bait. Seriously, if a woman dresses like a stripper and thinks guys aren’t going to hoot and holler then they just aren’t being realistic. I don’t think she needs to wear a nun outfit, but she should have at least looked professional if she expected to be treated like one. She dressed like that for a reason.

MASON

September 15th, 2010
11:29 am

Are men reporters allowed in the WNBA dressing rooms???

kimmie

September 15th, 2010
11:30 am

Bottom line is that people (men and women) need to stop making excuses for bad decisions.

Dreams – Bears repeating. We can shut the blog down with that one!

Kym

September 15th, 2010
11:31 am

@Raqi..yeah she was upset because she wore something that now had the office looking at her in a different light.

Elijah ( I want some of dat)

September 15th, 2010
11:32 am

Good Morning Folks!

@Luvbug and Melo you too argue like a husband and wife….Here is $100 for hotel room…..Just go and get errrr done! Work-it good Melo, Luvbug is very ready!!!! Yes she is!!!! :smile:

On topic….Hey kick all the reporters out of the lockerroom and give these athletes an opportunity to relax…
Ummmm dressing sexy and provocotive is a distraction in a professional work settings, just like we need strict dressing standards in our schools, we need dress codes in the work place.

Also I do want to see gut spilling over your too tight pants, your sagging knobblers on any occassion. I am tired of being at a function and seeing old women showing those flat knobblers…
Not a good look.

amazed

September 15th, 2010
11:34 am

No reporters, male or female should be in any team’s locker room.

Is there any reputable place where people conduct business in the nude or in their underwear? If reporters want to be among partially clad or nude athletes, maybe they should strip down too.

Luvbug

September 15th, 2010
11:35 am

Elijah – Believe it or not…I needed that laugh this morning. LOLOLOLOL

Oh, and ummm…Ewww-we

Melo

September 15th, 2010
11:35 am

@Luvbug.

Took me’ 1 hour.. 10.16 to 11.16
Thanks to the 11.16 non Pooky response.

I would treat her like a h03 and give her h03 respect like I indicated on 9.40!
In Afghanistan they wld curse her same way coz they would say she’s a slut in their religion.

@Kimmie 11.24

High 5 on that!

Raqi

September 15th, 2010
11:35 am

I remember in school we had a class that actually taught professionalism. From how to dress to how to conduct yourself at a job interview. I don’t think those type classes exist anymore.

Living in a time now of “don’t judge me” and “my right” most students these days probably create some type protest against such classes. But they don’t realize that when you make certain choices, even when it is your right to do so, you credit a ceiling over yourself limiting your growth ability in the corporate world.

Like the lady kimmie spoke of. It was her right to pierce her nose but doing so she limited herself. Freewill sometimes create undesirable limitations.

kimmie

September 15th, 2010
11:36 am

Raqi – I certainly blame the parents for the way kids dress at school, because thats where it starts. First, my mother would never have purchased some of the outfits kids wear now for me. When stuff got too tight, to the Goodwill it went. Second, not only would I not have walked out of the house in something inappropriate, I could not walk AROUND the house looking nasty either. I had brothers and a father to respect, and the neighbors could not see me like that either.

There were always some fast girls that would change up at school. But parents set the tone, and many have dropped the ball. These are the same kids that won’t know how to dress for a job interview, if they are qualified to get a job!

SexyCool

September 15th, 2010
11:37 am

Rock – we had something similar. It was called Life Management Skills.

Guy

September 15th, 2010
11:40 am

Dave Chapelle put it best when a woman would go to the club dressed provocatively and insist “Just because I am dressed this way does not make me out to be a slut” would be life if he was dressed up as a police officer and she runs to him for help and his rebuttal “Just because I’m dressed this way does NOT make me a cop”. If a male sportscaster is wearing revealing clothing while interviewing a team of women it would be just as bad as a woman wearing “clubbing” gear in a mens locker room. If you are a professional at your job, regardless of Gender or role in job, dress appropriately. Wear what you would wear to your job interview when you are doing your job.
Problem solved.

Kym

September 15th, 2010
11:40 am

Is there really a reason to show your underwear in public? I mean from the thongs to the boxer undies..why did this become a fashion? I was watching old school videos with my son. Kid n Play the dance off to be exact. Both the guys..heck all the folks were kind of dressed preppie. When did we shift from preppie to(I don’t even know what you would call it.)

Steve

September 15th, 2010
11:41 am

I agree with the one who suggested ALL reporters be banned from locker rooms. Locker rooms are exactly that, locker rooms. There is a media room where interviews and questionings can take place after the players / coaches have had a chance to change, cool off, settle down, etc. after a game. I’m not sure why reporters were allowed entrance to team locker rooms, but if they were again banned from entrance, the problem would go away. If a reporter is harassed in a public place like the sidelines, another story all together.

czBrat

September 15th, 2010
11:44 am

kimmie, i fussed at my daughter all through high school because she wore only jeans, t-shirts and flip-flops. i wanted her to try a skirt, dress or shorts and ANY kind of footwear other than flip-flops once in a while. after seeing the kids at school that day, i was very pleased with the way my kids dressed from then on.

and, yeah, SC. i remember LMS, but i took that in college. it is sorely needed much earlier these days. i know this first hand from my time mentoring aged-out foster kids.

YouAreAnIdiot

September 15th, 2010
11:44 am

Stupid question and stupid “column”. Maybe all women should stay indoors in their bible mandated domain, the kitchen. Might happen if the teabagger movement takes over this country. Hitler will have nothing on what they hope to accomplish.

2CPTG©

September 15th, 2010
11:45 am

“When did we shift from preppie to(I don’t even know what you would call it.)”

Generation Y (25-33) started that shyt.

Raqi

September 15th, 2010
11:45 am

Kimmie, actually. Even when I was allowed to go shopping without my mother I knew how to buy clothing that was appropriate. My mom and grandmother used to take my sister and I shopping with them and show us how to dress like decent young ladies.

And you are too correct about how we dressed around the house. My dad and brothers were never to see us in our slips and underwear and we never saw them in their underwear. Heck we were not even allowed to wash my dad’s underwear. LOL That was my mom’s job. She got to see him in them, she helped him take them off (shudder), and she got to wash them.

Marie

September 15th, 2010
11:45 am

I am sick and tired of the wussification of the men in this country and this stupid idea that women are sooo innocent and need to be protected. In the words of Ochocinco — child please. You don’t go into a male locker room wearing skin tight jeans, an equally tight blouse with the first 3 or 4 buttons unbuttoned so cleavage can show, call yourself the sexiest female reporter in sports, looking for Mark Sanchez and then expect the men to not notice you or not say anything to you.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the statement Clinton Portis made regarding this situation because it’s absolutely true especially when it comes to these young women who like this reporter longs to be the next Kim Kardashian, Britney Spears, or Lindsey Lohan type. If they are looking at 53 toned males bodies they will want one or more of them like they want that pair of stilettos. As Portis stated the same applies to men — if a man is in the presence of 53 women who have beautiful bodies he is going to desire one or more of these women. There is nothing offensive about that — it is the truth.

The NFL, NBA, and MLB need to institute a rule and keep ALL reporters out of the locker room. The fans do not need to hear an on the spot interview of these players in the locker room. Go sit in the press room and wait for the players to come to you. They can also go a step further and enforce a dress code for reporters who desire to interview their players (this is a privilege and not a right). If they do this it would eliminate airheads like this chick from making outlandish claims of harrassment.

Fred

September 15th, 2010
11:46 am

She was in an environment of testosterone filled gladiators. What did she expect to happen. Never would have happened if they would keep females out of men’s locker rooms. Build a bridge and get over it!

kimmie

September 15th, 2010
11:46 am

SCool – We had that class in my high school too – had to take it to graduate.

SexyCool

September 15th, 2010
11:48 am

czB – email me – cscfromajc@yahoo.com – I wanna run something by you.

bigred

September 15th, 2010
11:48 am

@Kym>First of all, if you are getting caught up, get caught up all the way! SHE never claimed to be harrassed! She only tweeted that she felt uncomfortable. It was another female friend that reported that jumped to that conclusion.
I have a general question for all>When a person, male or female, dresses to go out & party or dresses to go to work or church, does that not dictate HOW one dresses? I mean come on, WHO are you dressing up for? Is it just for yourself or those who will see you?

czBrat

September 15th, 2010
11:51 am

done, SC. but last time i tried that from work you never got it, so check your spam please.

Texas Pete

September 15th, 2010
11:52 am

Dress for the occassion. Why do adults pretend like they are victims or even children when something like this comes up? It’s the same argument all over again. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about dress in the workplace, school, or at the mall, dress for the occassion. If a person is wearing something to be “sexy” then it’s an open and shut case. No one needs to dress “sexy” to feel good about themselves. People can dress conservatively, business casual, or plain ol’ casual and still look good and feel good about themselves. Others might still find those forms of dress sexy on the individual but that’s different than going out of your way to dress sexy. If you’re wearing form fitting or skin revealing clothing and you’re not about to go for a swim or exercise then ask yourself what you’re hoping to gain from that outfit.

Clinton Portis is right. It goes both ways. I don’t know how many females I’ve heard over time comment about their doctor, a teacher, coach, etc in their lives. Adults look. The only negative thing would have been if the players were making obscene and profane comments. If they were simply saying “baby, you’re hot” then that’s not a big deal to me because she obviously dressed the part. Yes, both the players and the reporter are at work but this is an entertainment industry we’re talking about where sex sells. Anytime your job requires you to exude sexuality then comments are fair game.

Luvbug

September 15th, 2010
11:53 am

No we didn’t. Crinkled up BBoomers and Tween Boomers are the hot shot executives in all areas of business and government racking up money on hedonism…aaand they wanna live forever too. They just will not get off the stage.

Sandman…please come and take em.

Equitytec

September 15th, 2010
11:53 am

I hope Ms. Sainz gets a proposal out of all of this publicity! That is her goal, right? Thank you Mr. Stephanopoulos for taking the high road during the interview yesterday. By the way, wearing tight fitting clothing does not allow for a good air flow!!! Plus, Ms. Sainz may have angered some “Latino” women that do not appreciate such stereotyping! The NFL should tighten the guidelines for dress in the locker room for both players and reporters before allowing reporters to enter!

Raqi

September 15th, 2010
11:54 am

SexyC, I remember Ms. Cartrell passing out those notebook paper size checks and making us fill it out. Before we left that class every student whether they wanted to or not knew how to dress in the corporate world, how to speak properly and respectfully on an interview and on the job, how to write a resume, fill out an application, how to write a check, reconcile a bank statement, fill out a deposit slip and a whole bunch of other everyday living stuff. In other words how to act professional and handle your business affairs.

Reality Check

September 15th, 2010
11:54 am

Women don’t belong in a MEN’S LOCKER ROOM in the first place. Same as men don’t belong in a WOMEN’S LOCKER ROOM. duh.

opinionated

September 15th, 2010
11:54 am

Should a person be allowed to wear whatever they want? When I was a teen, I thought, of course. I’m now in my 40’s and this is a resounding NO!! I’m sick to death of seeing males and females with their dirty drawers and butt cracks.
As for women in the locker room, give me a break. That was a calculated move on her part. I am a woman and I know she knew exactly what she was doing. Why does any reporter need to be in the locker room anyway, male or female? Do you see any men going into women’s locker rooms?

Lady-Diamond in da Rough-PrincessCut & Radiant;Never have to front....

September 15th, 2010
11:55 am

Good Day Crew!

Kym

September 15th, 2010
11:55 am

@2C well can we Generation X’ers step our game up and quit trying to fit in with them. Maybe then they will fall in line..because I should not have to go Krogering and be exposed to booty butt cheeks in the fruit section and T&A going down the aisle.

Elijah ( I want some of dat)

September 15th, 2010
11:56 am

@Luvbug…You are welcome….If Melo cannot deliver because eating cow balls don’t allow him to get err up… I will gladly converse with you regarding the LuvBug disenchantment with men…. :wink:

We are living in the hoochyism period and bravoism… I know those are not real words. But so many folks out here will wear every hoochie outfit available regardless of their body shape….

I luv a classy professional dressing lady…..What’s up Kimmie and itsme….Lurker…… That look I truly find to be very appealing…. :wink: :smile:

Let’s face it women luv compliments….Dressing isone of the ways to receive that compliment. Now when I see azz or knockers hanging out… I not sure how I can to pay you a compliment…. Man I see spots on dat azz…. :smile:

Philip

September 15th, 2010
11:58 am

No reporters should be allowed in the locker room.

2CPTG©

September 15th, 2010
11:59 am

“Crinkled up BBoomers and Tween Boomers are the hot shot executives in all areas of business and government racking up money on hedonism…”

Luvbug, read the question again; the baby Boomers, and Gen X didn’t start the saggy pants, or hoochie mama look, as we know it today; Granted, the BBoomers wore hip-huggers, and halter tops, the shyt we see today was started by Y’all!!!!!

Raqi

September 15th, 2010
12:01 pm

Kym, I know. During our time looking “put together” was something to be desired and envied. LOL Now all the boys clothing are too big and the girls are too small.

Luvbug

September 15th, 2010
12:01 pm

We started the trend, but not the idea of doing whatever that jumped off the trend.