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Should women cover up to get respect?

I have been focused on the news story about the female reporter treatment in the locker room and on the sidelines.  The fact that she was dressed “provocatively” is front and center.  I have noticed that radio personalities, sports writers, etc.  comment more about the woman’s outfit and not the behavior of the players.

Not surprising.  I am curious what everyone thinks about how a woman’s clothes impacts the way she is treated.  If she is not covered enough does it mean she wants to get disrespected?

What are your thoughts on female reporters in sports? Do you think they belong in the locker rooms to interview players?

I have regretted wearing a particular outfit because I ended up getting male attention that made me uncomfortable.   The thing is, when dressed conservatively, I have still received more of the same attention that made me uncomfortable.  Should women have to cover up to get respect?

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SexyCool

September 15th, 2010
8:33 am

YESSHEISCUTE

September 15th, 2010
8:39 am

That’s a good question. I think no matter what the woman has a right to wear what she wants to wear, but unfortunately we live in a society where we are judged by our appearance. So as long as she is strong enough or okay with that then its her prerogative.

Kym

September 15th, 2010
8:40 am

Good Morning All,

I am just catching up on this story..about the female reporter in the locker room but now the buzz is she is retracting her story and stating that she was not harrassed. I know this is gonna be a hard sell but seriously boys will be boys in a locker room..cause really men are kind of like the same little boys they were 15 years before. I mean seriously there is a press room for after the dudes come out of the shower and change..so wouldnt that be a perfect place to ask your questions. Why go in the room with the guys in the first place? As for if covering up will get a woman more respect..well it can’t hurt. One of my FB friends posted some video from Summer Jam 2010..not sure where it took place but there was a woman walking around in just pantyhose..with everything out and exposed..so yes that will draw attention, because that is what she wanted was attention. I mean there is nothing wrong with wearing something highlighting your best assets..because I think a woman in a burqua(sp) would still get uncomfortable attention. But if you got it all hanging out..then will you kind of set yourself up for the foolishness.

SexyCool

September 15th, 2010
8:41 am

Just prior to this, I was having a discussion with friends where I asked, “Has there been a law passed that all sidelines reporters must be women these days?”

As to Ms. Sainz, what I thought was interesting is that although she is the one that tweeted about her discomfort, this morning, on GMA, she was trying to say that she was not the one that was making a big deal out of it. That it was another woman reporter that was in the locker room that called attention to it.

Yeah…all of that got the side eye from me.

Not saying that the guys were not behaving inappropriately – I don’t know, I wasn’t there – It just all has an opportunistic Erin Andrews feel to me.

I think that another thing that was at play here was the “hot Latina” stereotype.

All that being said – as relates to the topic – you should consider not only your audience, but the message/image that you project, at all times. Dependent upon where you are and what activities that you are involved in, there are going to be certain circumstances/situations/behaviors that accompany that environment. And that you should be willing to deal with. Is this *right*? Not necessarily, but…it is taking off the rose colored glasses and being *real*.

i'm swiss™

September 15th, 2010
8:41 am

Morning, everybody…

On topic: You could be wearing a burqa and still get “uncomfortable” attention from some dudes. That’s just a lack of class on the dude’s part. Not that we don’t all have those thoughts when we see a woman with certain assets; it’s just a matter of knowing when/how to convey our admiration in an appropriate an non-creepy way.

As for this particular woman in the locker room… I haven’t heard exactly what was supposedly said/done to her in the locker room, but frankly, when you put a woman in a locker room w/ 50-something ‘roided-up, nekkid dudes, you shouldn’t be surprised at some inappropriate comments and/or behavior… Not condoning it, just saying…

Kimmy

September 15th, 2010
8:42 am

I don’t think it’s ever appropriate to “cat call” and yell disrespectful things to someone based on how they are dressed. I do however wonder what a woman in see through clothing, and outfits that expose body parts actually think men are thinking about them as they walk by. Women today really need to learn the difference between classy and trashy.

i'm swiss™

September 15th, 2010
8:43 am

Uh…. hey Kym… How are you gonna drop that little nugget (about the video) and NOT post a link??? :lol:

Kym

September 15th, 2010
8:47 am

@swiss cause I am not at home today I can’t posted it. But you are a enterprising fellow. Just go to youtube and search on summer jam 2010 booty. Then come on back and share with the rest of us.

Purple Rain

September 15th, 2010
8:55 am

That reporter in question looks awesome form head to toe. On topic should a women be able to wear whatever she wants and go anywhere…..yes. But should she do it? No. Reality is if you dress a certain way people there is a possibility that some are going to bother you. Does that make it right? Nope. And most men don’t care how a female sports reported looks as long as she gets the stats right, if she messes up then we start looking at her other attributes.

DC Rose

September 15th, 2010
8:55 am

IMO she was very aware of her environment. She was in a locker/shower room with men and exposing her assets while theirs were exposed, she should have been prepared for certain comments. That’s like going to a farm and not expecting to step in manure. I’m not saying their behavior was right, just typical.

I was team manager for the track team in college. The bus rides were always wild. Knowing this, I always sat in the front of the bus. Why put myself in a sticky situation?

Simple Man!!!!

September 15th, 2010
8:55 am

Morning all….

I think this is more about when and who than it is about what.. If a woman is in a social setting and seeking out attention from guys then yeah push the envelope a little but make sure you are prepared for what you get. Now I have seen the photos and yeah her jeans were fitting and she is fine to the nth degree, I do no think she was inappropriatly dressed to be on the sidelines during training camp. Now if she was going to the office to do interviews, more standard office fare would have been required, but in this case, its much ado about nothing….

blue - ½ -n- ½

September 15th, 2010
8:57 am

GM all,

not saying that the guys behaviour was appropriate, but do think that b4 putting yourself into a situation you should be thinking about where your going, what type of people/situation will be involved, and consider the likely response to your behaviour/dress/comment…headed into a locker room of hyped up, adrenaline rushing players, as an attractive female in attention getting clothes…do the math….i think in a lot of these situations the people making the lewd comments certainly have the choice to behave better, but the person who is the target also had the option to consider the likely outcome and make a choice that would make them comfortable…..how about erring on the side of caution sometimes?

Dan - simply...

September 15th, 2010
9:05 am

When seeking attention, everyone has a target audience in mind.

So you really can’t get too upset when your net catches somma everything. Offended by the approach – sure. But upset that a broader audience than the one you were seeking tuned into your broadcast, no.

As to the reporter, why would a woman be in a man’s locker room? Having been in a professional sports locker room, there are plenty of women there taking dictation at various times, and few are identify themselves as reporters.

All sports reporters know that there are designated times for questions, so I don’t buy that she “happened” to be unaware of the time/place.

i'm swiss™

September 15th, 2010
9:06 am

Kym — No worries… Your boy swiss is at home today and I will post that link for you… (click at your own risk) :lol: Oh yeah, almost forgot… GOT DAYUM that a lot of booty :lol:

i'm swiss™

September 15th, 2010
9:09 am

“Reality is if you dress a certain way people there is a possibility that some are going to bother you.”

PR — To borrow Dave Chappelle’s line… “You’re right, just ‘cos you’re dressed that way does not mean you are a wh@re. But you are wearing a wh@re’s uniform…” :lol:

C tha 1

September 15th, 2010
9:11 am

I’m all for equality and female empowerment, but for the love of God women do not belong inside a male locker room!!! Period. No matter how conservatively she dresses a male locker room isn’t the place where a woman should expect to get gentlemenly like treatment. Essentially the locker room is a Lion’s Den…everyone is subject to be treated like a piece of meat.

czBrat

September 15th, 2010
9:15 am

HiYas!

when i was younger i would stand on the “i will wear what i want and i don’t wanna hear any comments or endure any glares from anybody!”. i’m a bit brighter now :) i dress appropriate for the occasion. women can certainly be in the locker room if the duties of their job so require; whether they’re reporters, gaffers, cameramen, etc., but dress like you’re at work.

true story: some upper management from hq (three men, one woman) were recently in our office for meetings. i ran into the woman in the gym locker room as she was changing for the flight out. she had on a tube top :shock: and asked me if shorts or crop pants would be a better choice. i’m not exaggerating when i say they were itty, bitty booty shorts. i suggested the crop pants. she said “but i’m sure my coworkers will be in shorts and i want to be comfortable too.” i just gave her the blank stare, so she put on the crop pants. as i’m pumping away on the elliptical, and the guys are milling around waiting for her, she emerges from the locker room in the booty shorts and strappy stilettos and off they went to the airport. i don’t know how things went for her that day, but i now have no confidence in her judgment or decision-making skills.

i’m off to play in traffic. and i hear 78 is tons of fun this morning! :mad:

2CPTG©

September 15th, 2010
9:18 am

“should women cover up to get respect?”

excuse me? You gon’ get respect based on how you project yourself. The onus is on you – men and women alike – to display an image that is appropriate for the occasion;

And I’m tired of hearin’ folks, mainly athletes, backtracking their statements only after it’s been deemed inapprpriate; akin to a judge telling the jury to disregard that statement – hell, it’s out there now, you can’t forget what you heard! So Clinton Portis, you get the gas face for retracting!!!!

Kym

September 15th, 2010
9:22 am

@Swiss I knew you would find it.LOLOL!!

EastsideSweety

September 15th, 2010
9:22 am

Good Morning Everyone!!
With recent events I’m so out the loop. Ill be back

Dirty Diana ♠

September 15th, 2010
9:31 am

Hola!

This is a no brainer…dress for work. If I had to go in the locker room, knowing I would be around nothing but males (jocks) I would cover up. There was no reason for her to dress in super tight jeans and a shirt showing off the girls.

Now the Jets are doing all of this sensitivity training. When she was on GMA she mentioned another friend told her the players behaved badly, but in the same sentence she stated she wanted the guys fined if the comments were deemed at her. She is on the fence too much for me, and I don’t like to deal with that type of behavior.

It's me....lurker

September 15th, 2010
9:38 am

I’m agreeing with most…exercising common sense but I guess that’s not so common nowadays. Everybody is within their rights…your rights of wearing and dressing inappropriate or provocatively and the right to react….albeit probably disrespect but within their rights as well. What you put out or project is what you get in return.

Melo

September 15th, 2010
9:40 am

Should women cover up to get respect?

It’s a juvenile question but:

If u roll in h03 gear men will give u h03 respect.
Just depends on the type of respect u seeking!

Good morning folks!

justsayin

September 15th, 2010
9:43 am

Women need to have more respect for themselves when they dress. There are times to cover it up and there are times you should dress a little more “sexy” but never is it okay to show everything ya got. That’s for your significant other only to see. If you don’t have one yet then you should save it for them. Thats not going to get you the kind of person that you want by showing it all. You do have that right but do you want to be treated like a tr@mp?

Dirty Diana ♠

September 15th, 2010
9:43 am

We have to remember that society is not as conservative as it used to be. People are on a first name bases now, where when I was growing up it was Ms. (insert last name). And, not to mention the ladies back then in business wore very conservative attire i.e skirts below the knees, stockings, closed toe shoes etc. This is a new age of anything goes, and once something happens we hear about all of these rights.

It's me....lurker

September 15th, 2010
9:45 am

“Women in the locker room have every right to be there, to do their job as professionals. However, just like a corporate office, there are rules and regulations, especially concerning dress code. Those rules may have been stretched in the case of Ines Sainz—pun intended. Sexual harassment isn’t right, but in this case, it may have been a calculated encounter. At the time this was written, a quick Google search of Ines Sainz yielded 5.4 million results. A single fifteen-second clip of Sainz totaled over one million hits on YouTube. Before you know it, she’ll be dancing the cha-cha on ABC primetime television. Her celebrity stock has, as she undoubtedly expected, skyrocketed in a New York minute.”

Yep, I think this about sums it up. Folks ain’t as dumb as they act and when it comes to trying to get somewhere real quick, most moves are calculated. Hence the retracting and the ooopsies and the neverminds

Timeless

September 15th, 2010
9:50 am

This is exactly why some religious beliefs, albeit conservative, advocate that women cover up.

blue - ½ -n- ½

September 15th, 2010
9:51 am

im a big fan of taking responsibility for the part you play in any given situation….true, those making the lewd/harassing comment or gestures should be held accountable, but as was mentioned, that common sense factor should tell you played into it some too, basically what my mom alwasy referred to as “opening the door and saying come in”. in this age it is reasonable to expect certain resulting behaviour from certain stimulus, so for me, take responsibility for the part you played in this situation..

AmazonRed™

September 15th, 2010
9:57 am

Morning all –

You can dress however you want, but you have to accept the consequences. If you’re in a professional setting, you should be professional, even if the people you interview are wearing jockstraps and nothing else. It is after all a locker room, what do you think will go on.

Now, no one deserves to be harrassed but there are “attention grabbing clothes” for a reason. And not all attention is good attention. If you want to better control how people perceive you, be proactive about it. Even still, there will always be classless idiots in this world. Find a profession where you have to deal with em less.

Leggs

September 15th, 2010
10:00 am

Good morning.

Women should be wear what they want to wear, but hopefully have enough common sense to dress for the event. There’s no reason to show all your clevage while interviewing players. I had to laugh at the other reporter interviewing her saying “American women reporters don’t dress like this.” She said, in Mexico we do!

You can dress nicely, get the respect all while keeping your boobs under wrap.

Dirty Diana ♠

September 15th, 2010
10:00 am

@fan of DD

I love your moniker!

Raqi

September 15th, 2010
10:03 am

No and Yes.

A man knows how to and will respect a woman in whatever environment and situation. All the cat calls and inappropriate comments is character issues of that male being that practices them. No matter what some of them may like us to believe as justification for their tasteless sleazy behavior, men are capable of self-control and respectful behavior around women. They are not Neanderthals, some just chose be vile and uncouth.

However as a personal opinion there is a proper way to dress. Yeah I know it’s your body and you can wear what you want, but still you have to consider your surroundings. Just because something is okay to do does not mean it’s the right thing to do.

In the line of work of the reporter mentioned a woman should be prepared for the environment she is entering. I mean, knowing the caliber and attitudes that most men in the environment she chose to enter choose to have she should have made a better choice. Or at least have braced herself to receive the actions that were wailed at her.

And lastly, IMO women should not attempt to conduct interviews in a male locker room.

Luvbug

September 15th, 2010
10:06 am

Yes, she was dressed inappropriately for work.

Yes, if the men cat called or made sexually suggestive statements to her, they were being disrespectful and inappropriate.

A grown woman should wear appropriate work attire. A grown man should not yell raunchy statements to strangers. Neither is okay…not even kinda.

M. (pronouced M dot)

September 15th, 2010
10:08 am

Good day…

I think Respect and Attention are two different things. I think if women dress a certain way it will garner certain reactions from CERTAIN types of men.

I think alot of women are so thirsty for ATTENTION that they jeopardize their respect, but also its a catch 22 because there are only a few men that really feel turned off enough to say something to the woman about her dress and if its inappropriate. The solution; just dont pay her any attention.

“What are your thoughts on female reporters in sports? Do you think they belong in the locker rooms to interview players?”

I think female reporters are sometimes genuinely interested in what they do but also sometimes are undercover groupies using sports reporting and other sports gigs as a back door to get in the line of vision of Athletes. If you like sports so bad, work for the WNBA or something. If they got the chance to get into a serious relationship with a multi million dollar athlete with the potential for marriage and a Tiger Woods situation, they would do it in a heartbeat. Period.

Also you have the blame the media’s perception of beauty. If Gabourey Sidibe aka Precious was interested in being a sports reporter would they let her in the locker room? Nope. Sports is a male dominated field and they hire based on looks.

I think the women should be limited to Post Game Press Conferences Only. They will get the same information there.

The problem is alot of women look at Athletes as the only meal ticket because they are so visible and their business is out. You can google and find salaries, endorsements, etc. Alot of women really dont have enough substance to really get and maintain a guy who is not an athlete therefore alot of women go after them because most are easy targets and make alot of stupid decisions.

czBrat

September 15th, 2010
10:09 am

Hey Leggs,
you know s/o has made that comment to me as well. i watch the spanish channels quite a lot. he’ll sit there and watch the newscast with me and comment on how hispanic female reporters dress soooo provocatively and noone thinks anything of it. frankly, i’d never even noticed. LOL

i'm swiss™

September 15th, 2010
10:10 am

Um… on a (somewhat) related note… D@mn… I never realized there were so many booty-shakin’ videos on youtube… :lol: (Thanks for opening my eyes, Kym)

I now have my agenda for the day — it’s only a matter of time until I run across a booty I recognize… :lol:

It's me....lurker

September 15th, 2010
10:10 am

A woman should be appropriate at all times. I guess I don’t get getting nakes translate sexy. I think sexy translate sexy. Getting naked….well IMO, as I can be opinionated, is just tasteless. I think the two are often confused. What’s wrong with a nice form fitting black dress and sexy shoes rather than tits and azz displayed? But I guess it’s what you like and what appeals to you. But again and I think in any environment (cause I don’t think work is the only place and time to cover up) it’s what you project. You don’t have to be in a locker room to get locker room behavior.

D Dub of the MSP (formerly D Dub of the ATL)

September 15th, 2010
10:11 am

@LuvBug – Truth!

Beautiful

September 15th, 2010
10:11 am

gmorn beauties! hav a bless filld day. ;~)

Melo

September 15th, 2010
10:11 am

If u walk past a construction site wearing a tantalizing sleazy outfit, tatas boobing nicely up and down,ur booty in bare bones pantyhose, ima roll with them Neanderthals at ur expense!

No apologies to make!

SexyCool

September 15th, 2010
10:12 am

imLurker – we are >>>here<<<. This thing has Erin Andrews all over it.

i'm swiss™

September 15th, 2010
10:12 am

“She said, in Mexico we do!”

Leggs — Hellz yeah! Am I the only one that Tivo’s the news broadcasts on Telemundo? :lol:

SexyCool

September 15th, 2010
10:14 am

Melo – no lotto millions?

Mo (aka Moeisha )

September 15th, 2010
10:14 am

Morning All

ARed – co-signing chica, 100%

Hope everyone is well this AM

Kym

September 15th, 2010
10:15 am

@Swiss..I am not taking credit for that video at all. I got it as a post on FB and we had a discussion about it. But it does fall right inline with our topic today. The dudes were surrounding her and she kept saying don’t touch me. Oh someone told me that the Summer Jam was in New York..they think..so seriously I can’t see riding the subway in NYC looking like that.

Luvbug

September 15th, 2010
10:16 am

Melo- Really?! What if it were Afghanistan and an extremely conservatively dressed woman walked by men with her hair not covered and got cursed out? You’d feel the same way?

It's me....lurker

September 15th, 2010
10:17 am

SexyC – This thing has Erin Andrews all over it.

The things people do.

Dirty Diana ♠

September 15th, 2010
10:18 am

. If Gabourey Sidibe aka Precious was interested in being a sports reporter would they let her in the locker room?

M.dot good point, however I think we can increase her chances if we give her some patra braids

Luvbug

September 15th, 2010
10:18 am

cBrat/swiss – Yeah, Telemundo…Univision…Fox ‘New’ Network…all let the ladies dress that way. LOL

Melo

September 15th, 2010
10:18 am

Sexxycool?

Naaaw, but I got the powerball tomorrow.
So my balls(fingers?) are squeezed, jest in case!