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Is there a battle of the collars?

A reader sent me an article from the popular blog Naked With Socks On yesterday. (How great is that blog name?) The question of the day centered around the ongoing debate about blue collar and white collar was “Who has more sex appeal?”  This kind of debate seems to brings out an interesting mix of classism to me.

I think a lot of people in Atlanta get hung up on the image of wealth and class.  Many single people believe that if you are in a certain job or industry, you are automatically a classy or sophisticated person.  I found that not to be the case.  I have personally met a cross section of great people from all backgrounds.  There are upper class jerks and middle class knuckleheads.  There are also great people with money and great people who are trying to make money.  What does it all have to do with sex appeal?

What do you guys think? Is there a battle of the white collars vs. blue collars in Atlanta?  Do you ever consider yourself to be one or the other?

Is there any pressure to have an image of being one or the other to attract someone?

478 comments Add your comment

Lady J-baselines rocks!

June 15th, 2010
8:35 am

hmmmmm interesting…..

Good Morning Crew!

Trevor0529

June 15th, 2010
8:37 am

Good Morning,

I get the impression that there is a “battle” but no matter if you are white collar or blue collar, it is the person beneath the clothes that must come out when dating. I consider myself to be white collar with a blue collar work mentality and I feel no pressure to have an image. I enjoy being me.

PrincessNik

June 15th, 2010
8:42 am

Good Morning

white collar with a blue collar work mentality

@ Trevor, I love that^^^^

SlimCutty

June 15th, 2010
8:44 am

Good morning,

Never thought of myself as either…but now that I think about it, I’m a brown collar. ;-)

‘Is there any pressure to have an image of being one or the other to attract someone?’

Um, I don’t feel any pressure to portray a certain image to attract others. The fact that i’m FUN Size seems to do the job just fine. LOL! (I know, I know…it’s too early to be delirious but I got nothing)

Check back in later

free to be (F2B)

June 15th, 2010
8:44 am

good morning all!:) yep, i like that too Trevor. that’s a good way to put it.

busy morning ahead. i’ll peep in after noon. have a great morning everyone!:)

Lady J-baselines rocks!

June 15th, 2010
8:44 am

————>it is the person beneath the clothes that must come out when dating.

you dag on right and you can’t get caught up in the image a lesson I learning…..chuckle!

Dan - A new Jill Scott fan

June 15th, 2010
8:45 am

Classism is a fact of life for people that define themselves (and others) by their occupations.

That “placism” exists should be a surprise to no one.

But if you’re interested in being with someone, what they do to pay bills should, or may, be distinctly different from who they are as a person. And in dating, that should be the measurement by which one is judged.

“We wear the masks that grins and lies…”

Good morning

Lady J-baselines rocks!

June 15th, 2010
8:46 am

“I am learning” a bit scatterbrain this morning….my class is coming to an end and I need to get in closeout mode and stop thinking about it and “Just Do It”—-Plyatime is near! Jam Fest and Essence!!!! WOOHOO!! okay focus! lol

Randyt (goodbye Toothless, three days to ATL for awhile)

June 15th, 2010
8:49 am

Why should this matter in any other way than compatibility issues? I mean, other than the compatibility of a blue collar guy/girl dating professional guy/girl, it should be a nonevent. I find myself on the professional side wanting to date professionals, because I think communications are better dating “likes” than the ‘we are different” types. But is it a class thing, never.

As far as wearing it like a badge, that is crap. I was born and raised on the wrong side of the tracks and am equally comfortable in a tux at a formal dinner or lunch at a 5 star restaurant in Manhattan, or wearing steel toed boots and contamination gear in a radiation zone in Albuquerque…done both.

Personally I think people who maintain an “image” whether it be “playa”, “bad boy/thuga” or “Mr.I’m better than you, nose in the air, flashing cash, BMW owner” need to be a little less self absorbed and spend more time looking and listening to others than themselves in the mirror so much.

Randyt (goodbye Toothless, three days to ATL for awhile)

June 15th, 2010
8:54 am

One other comment, if one goes to the point of maintaining an “image”, he/she is obviously wearing a ‘mask’…time to ask who IS this person…really?

AmazonRed™ - We're taking game 6! Go Lakers!

June 15th, 2010
8:54 am

Morning all –

I don’t really have any interaction with blue collar. White is all I know. But I would never disqualify a man for being blue collar. It’s a job right? An honest profession? That’s really all that matters.

I’m not sure about praising this “blue collar work” mentality, tho. Both collars can work JUST as hard. Just one has a little more dirt under his nails at the end of the day.

Dan - A new Jill Scott fan

June 15th, 2010
8:59 am

@RandyT

http://www.potw.org/archive/potw8.html

It’s more about “at work” than “after work”.

Things that must be done vs following a passion

Stirrin-ItUp

June 15th, 2010
8:59 am

I give this thing about twenty minutes before it devolves into either “what concert rocked’ or “why can’t black women get a man”!

PrincessNik

June 15th, 2010
8:59 am

I’m not sure about praising this “blue collar work” mentality, tho. Both collars can work JUST as hard.

@ ARed, for me the key word in your statement was CAN. Typically one associates a blue collar work mentality with someone who doesn’t mind gettin down in the “trenchs” and doing whatever needs to be done. Not saying some white collar works don’t do this. Me personally I’m more white collar, but i will get in that warehouse and sling boxes wit my guys or whatever else needs to be done. I just need to know ahead of time so I don’t show up in full girly girl gear ;)

AmazonRed™ - We're taking game 6! Go Lakers!

June 15th, 2010
9:04 am

Typically one associates a blue collar work mentality with someone who doesn’t mind gettin down in the “trenchs” and doing whatever needs to be done

Right…which is why I said I wouldn’t put one over the other in terms of that mentality. That’s a blue collar and white collar type of thing. Has to do with who you are rather than what you do.

SlimCutty

June 15th, 2010
9:06 am

‘Personally I think people who maintain an “image” whether it be “playa”, “bad boy/thuga” or “Mr.I’m better than you, nose in the air, flashing cash, BMW owner” need to be a little less self absorbed and spend more time looking and listening to others than themselves in the mirror so much’

RandyT – worth repeating….

PrincessNik

June 15th, 2010
9:08 am

Ared

Has to do with who you are rather than what you do.

I agree, I would say has to do with who you are and HOW you do what you do, rather than what you do.

My personal experience with MOST white collar has been they don’t do the whatever needs to be done to get the work done. And I can only speak from my own experiences.

Kym-Waving the bandwagon banner..Go Celtics

June 15th, 2010
9:09 am

Good Morning All,

I have dated all the collars..I never thought about my collar cause I work for the government. So lets say my collar is beige. I think the problem with my city is that folks are caught up in the flash. What looks good. All that glitters is not gold. I remember when I would go on to a few of the singles website, there was always some guy leaning back on his shiny car infront of a house–I say a house cause it might not be his house–or looking cool on a motorcycle behind dark glasses. Now..that house empty, cant put enough gas in the bike or car to get to work at said white or blue collar job. Atlanta’s problem is not collar envy.

SlimCutty

June 15th, 2010
9:11 am

Wrote a poem about it…like to read it, here it go LOL

So Exposed

You stripped away all my masks and exposed my nakedness to the world.

Standing alone, uncovered insecurites, thoughts, gifted capabilites.

Removed all of what i thought was me

Left with what you actually made of me,

No where to hide, no where to seek

Having to navigate so blindedly.

Stumbling upon a puddle, I know not this stranger staring back at me

So confused and lost, desperate for direction at all cost

Tears violently streaming

Craving even just a taste of old comfortbility

But turning around is no option for me

Convinced you haven’t forsaken thee

Grasping for your unchanging hand,

But still feeling alone and alone I stand,

So Exposed

PrincessNik

June 15th, 2010
9:12 am

Now..that house empty, cant put enough gas in the bike or car to get to work at said white or blue collar job.

:lol:

Dan - A new Jill Scott fan

June 15th, 2010
9:16 am

Nice Slim, nice

AmazonRed™ - We're taking game 6! Go Lakers!

June 15th, 2010
9:18 am

My personal experience with MOST white collar has been they don’t do the whatever needs to be done to get the work done. And I can only speak from my own experiences.

As can I which is why I also stated what I did. And why I think that mentality doesn’t equate more to blue collar over white.

What time is it?

June 15th, 2010
9:20 am

What it comes down to is how much disposable income you have at the end of the day. Blue collar workers usually have less money to spend on their dates than white collar workers. Both blue and white collars can be sound men. Most women tend to want to be wined and dined, so they lean toward white collars. Blue collars usually can spend more quality time with women. I have been both. It’s a lot of fun when a woman can roll with you when you don’t have a lot of money. But at the end of the day…most men want to ball out of control with his woman at his side.

SlimCutty

June 15th, 2010
9:21 am

Spank you berry much Danny-Do ;-)

Luvbug

June 15th, 2010
9:29 am

I wouldn’t turn down a man b/c he fit the suit category, but I’ve never dated a suit type either, so hmmm. My exs pretty much fit NWSO’s attire preference and scope of professionalism. Physically? So far, every single one has been lean, around (5’11 – 6) and somewhat caramel complexion.

I don’t know why this is. I am certainly attracted to guys outside of that category, but I usually end up with the same type. I imagine at least half the choice is not mine. I am not the type to approach men. Apparently, all the guys I’m attracted to aren’t attracted to me.

Actually, based on the physical description, NWSO would definitely overlook me.

I’m hesitant to describe myself as either white or blue collar. I dress professionally, but not in a suit everyday. My job is technically professional, but I’m not a young mogul type.

I couldn’t (wouldn’t) qualify my mentality either. I err on the side of flighty and smart, goofy and serious, weirdo and shallow, uptight and inappropriate…I don’t know.

One thing I know is you won’t know me by looking at me.

sexyCOOL

June 15th, 2010
9:35 am

Never have judged a dude based on his *collar*. Besides, I’m way more concerned with who he is when he is than what he does.

sexyCOOL

June 15th, 2010
9:36 am

Oh….forgot…

Three Words Daily – Never stop learning.

AmazonRed™ - We're taking game 6! Go Lakers!

June 15th, 2010
9:40 am

I’m hesitant to describe myself as either white or blue collar. I dress professionally, but not in a suit everyday.

Blue collar refers more to wearing a uniform or “work shirt” day to day. So even if you don’t wear a suit, but you primarily sit at a desk, you’re white collar.

SlimCutty

June 15th, 2010
9:40 am

My “SO” wears a uniform everyday…whether it’s the dress blues or the khaki cargo pants & polo shirt. And wear it well he does. Hmph,hmph, hmph…QueDude is a Suit wearing white collar guy. Ex-man was a dockers-button down-tie dude at work but a gold chain-timberlands-School of Hard Knocks shirt wearing guy after hours. Also dated a guy who was a mechanic that taught me a lot of things about life.(Highly intelligent)……..So my range has been wide. lol To me, It’s about the person BEHIND the mask, not necessarily the actual mask itself.

PrincessNik

June 15th, 2010
9:40 am

@ SexyC

i don’t think i’ve ever judged a guy on his *collar* myself. White collar or blue collar doesn’t matter:

_ if you are not gainfully employed

_ cannot manage the money you make (large or small)

_ have a job that keeps you so busy you don’t have time for us/me

_ having delusions of grandeur that your job makes you more that what you really are

_ have limited or questionable morals and ethics

Lady J-baselines rocks!

June 15th, 2010
9:43 am

having delusions of grandeur that your job makes you more that what you really are

very important and both collars can mix up their value to their company men and women….observation….

good list PK!

SlimCutty

June 15th, 2010
9:46 am

PK – Me likey likey

abc

June 15th, 2010
9:48 am

Regardless the specific occupation, most women find the most attractive men to be the ones that offer the most security: financial security, relationship security, overall stability, etc.

Some think blue collar men are more attractive because of some sense of ability to have fun, depending on the chick’s interests and tastes. Maybe more blue collars like to go boating and fishing, maybe not. Maybe more white collars would rather take trips to the mountains and beach instead, maybe not.

At any rate, it’s a chick’s-only distinction. Most men couldn’t care less what a chick specifically does for work, outside the obvious — a macho chick on the road construction crew is going to have limited appeal, for instance.

Lady J-baselines rocks!

June 15th, 2010
9:51 am

self assurance is cool——-prideful, egotistical, and just plain stupid isn’t cool—–this applies to both collars hell it applies to people….people are people and some hidden insecurities are overshadowed with their career…..the person is very important not the resume….who are you and what do you want, what are your goals and aspirations, etc, etc…it goes beyond the workplace…how balanced are you…..both sexes

Luvbug

June 15th, 2010
9:51 am

ARed – I agree that working at a desk technically qualifies as white collar, buuut there are levels to it. When I referenced not always wearing a suit, it was b/c some higher level professionals frown upon non suit wearers. Non-suit professional attire can be considered business casual in some circles.

czBrat

June 15th, 2010
9:52 am

GM All!

Many single people believe that if you are in a certain job or industry, you are automatically a classy or sophisticated person.
i’m happy to say that i am (was) blissfully ignorant of this presumption. i think that most of us are NOT our job/profession. it’s just what we do.

Chink

June 15th, 2010
9:52 am

Dated white collar..blue collar…military..

To be perfectly honest I kind of like a blue collar guy they know how to fix things and don’t mind getting dirty. Most white collar guys I dated seemed to be living beyond their means.

Image can only take you so far. My job is what I went to school for its what I want to do…not what I think people will like me for.

I don’t care where you work just don’t ask me for money. :)

AmazonRed™ - We're taking game 6! Go Lakers!

June 15th, 2010
9:57 am

Regardless the specific occupation, most women find the most attractive men to be the ones that offer the most security: financial security, relationship security, overall stability, etc.

True.

Most men couldn’t care less what a chick specifically does for work, outside the obvious — a macho chick on the road construction crew is going to have limited appeal, for instance.

*hollers* :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lady J-baselines rocks!

June 15th, 2010
9:57 am

I don’t care where you work just don’t ask me for money….Funny Chink!

I cringe at the thought of bankrolling a man….that isn’t on my resume thankfully….lol….and no no man has banrolled me…been working since 15 and proud about it! LOL

AmazonRed™ - We're taking game 6! Go Lakers!

June 15th, 2010
9:58 am

When I referenced not always wearing a suit, it was b/c some higher level professionals frown upon non suit wearers. Non-suit professional attire can be considered business casual in some circles.

Luvbug – This I know…but it still doesn’t mean you don’t fall out of the white collar realm. You certainly wouldn’t be blue collar.

Lady J-baselines rocks!

June 15th, 2010
9:58 am

bankroll that is….lol

Luvbug

June 15th, 2010
9:59 am

Most men couldn’t care less what a chick specifically does for work

Abc – That’s becoming less true b/c many guys cannot sustain a household of women and children on their income alone, so they’re checking women for resources now.

PrincessNik

June 15th, 2010
9:59 am

blue collar guy they know how to fix things and don’t mind getting dirty

^^^I’ve noticed that in MOST cases also^^^

Lady J-baselines rocks!

June 15th, 2010
10:02 am

ARed we have to take Game 6 chica!!!! Go Lakers!

abc

June 15th, 2010
10:05 am

Luvbug, a man that evaluates a woman based on her income potential is a man worth avoiding. Simp. If you can’t afford a family, don’t have one.

eyes

June 15th, 2010
10:05 am

@RANDY-I left a post for you last week but never check back to see if you responded. You sound like my kind of guy, I have all my teeth

SlimCutty

June 15th, 2010
10:06 am

‘no man has banrolled me’

Lady J- Me either but it shole would be nice to have a dude say “Slim, just throw it in da bag!” ….just once LOLOL!! At the same token, once I win this lotto, I’ll be able to tell my friends that.

Kym-Waving the bandwagon banner..Go Celtics

June 15th, 2010
10:07 am

Okay why did my Daddy just call and make me cry?

THE INFAMOUS DK AKA LEROY LOVING

June 15th, 2010
10:08 am

I wear jeans and a button up shirt everyday with some killer shoes.. Sometimes I wear Khakis but ya know.. I have suits and the like but I dont have to wear them and in my environment if you come in wearing a suit, you have an interview somewhere.. I work in a IT shop where the guy in the office next to me has green hair and has to register himself with the GOV every year cause he’s a certified hacker.. Oh and our other buddy has a Flamed Mohawk with piercings in his face and his whole body covered in tattoos so my little sleeve is nothing.. Not to mention these guys wear tshirts everyday and Im the one that over dresses in the office.. Oh and I might I add these guys bill 200.00 a hr..

Oh wait there is a dude that wears a tie everyday, but he wears a short sleeve shirt and a pocket protector with it. He’s so smart he speaks in algorithims.. Wicked sense of dark humor.

To tell the truth its only black people that give a ish about what someone else is wearing or not wearing. Most of the guys in my office wear their shoes until they have to tape them together, drive Hondas and make a sh!t load of money.. Priorities are different in different cultures.. And dont let me talk about my Indian Developer Buddies that make a ton of money but wear the same clothes at least twice a week..

Its not the clothes its the dude and the dudes priorities..

PrincessNik

June 15th, 2010
10:10 am

@ABC
a man that evaluates a woman based on her income potential is a man worth avoiding. Simp

I was at the car dealership the other day getting my car worked on, and of course they tried to sell me a new car. So the salesman knows my family and starts asking me the questions (apparently most people like to ask 30 year old single women) why aren’t you married, are you dating etc…..Then he says, you are so intellegent have a lot going for you why hasn’t some young man “latched onto you”, seems like they would know you can lift them to a higher level.

:shock: I looked at him like what da hayo is you talkin bout old man