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Numbers Game

Have you ever heard some outrageous statistic about the ratio of women to men in Atlanta? When I first moved here I heard that it was 15 to 1 or something like that. I know that dating can be a numbers game, but does that actually have an impact on how we are meeting and dating one another?

Do you even worry about the numbers or ratio of single people? Does it make us more competitive?

What do you think about the dating options in Atlanta? Are they working for you or against you?

Have you changed up your “type” because of the perceived ratio on the dating scene?

362 comments Add your comment

Joe

August 17th, 2009
8:41 am

It’s not quantity or ratio that’s important, it’s quality that counts, and the dating scene is lacking in that department. To me it just means we have more shallow, self-centered women to choose from.

Today

August 17th, 2009
8:44 am

Off topic question: I am involved with a super nice guy that treats me very well so there is no problem there, the thing is I’m beginning to think of him as some what weak & I detest that in a man. Here are some examples & you tell me do u think I’m overreacting. He says he’s scared to fall asleep at my place because he snores & he doesn’t want to keep me woke, If we talking on the phone & he doesn’t hear/or understand what I said he doesn’t want to ask me to repeat myself, If I offer him something he does want to say no, knowing he doesn’t want it. This is just a few examples. Im beginning to snap on him about this. What’s a girl to do or we just not compatible & I need to keep it moving & let him found someone who better suits him.

Sean

August 17th, 2009
8:59 am

Quantity but no quality! Shows like Desperate Housewives, Tiny & Toya, etc. pretty much displays what we are dealing with here in Atlanta!

The Real Rell - vanglorious

August 17th, 2009
9:05 am

@today….lol…now that is too funny

dude is not trying to mess up his “honey” thats all…he is trying way to hard….and all you want is a strong dude to tell you were to go…lol…good luck with that….you might want to check his boxer for moisture…lol

Texas Boy

August 17th, 2009
9:05 am

Today.
Your guy sounds like a girly man. Please find a real man and move on.
Happy Monday fellow bloggers.

Mike Jones (who)

August 17th, 2009
9:10 am

SEAN….
I agree. They need to take those shows off the air before its too late!

Grace

August 17th, 2009
9:12 am

Have you changed up your “type” because of the perceived ratio on the dating scene? as in going Lezzy? NO! lol….however I have ruled out divorced men.

LOL Today….your guy is just trying to keep you happy, give him some slack, at least none of your complaints are about him hitting you or cheating on you.

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
9:19 am

@Sean – See, thats exactly why I didn’t watch RHOA the first season. They gave a bad perception of black women and especially black women in Atlanta. And they are supposed to be “socialites”. Please!

@Grace – why have you ruled out divorced me?

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
9:21 am

Hi Wise and All…in for a few days then back to DC

When I first came to ATL, I heard the same numbers from a lady I was dating and thought that was ludicrous. However, I think it could actually apply to some extent to the dating range that I date in. I date ladies in their 40’s, and so many of them have ex’s that are trying to search out the “hard bodies” that are in their 20’s and 30’s. Since I do the Internet dating, not the bar “holla” scene, it often seems like trying to figure out what you want to eat at a 100 item salad bar…too many choices.

This sounds like every man’s dream but for some, or at least me, that is a dilemma. Recently I have been out a few times with a nice lady, however I have also met a lady on line who is very attractive and interesting (once as high as sixth in figure skating rankings) who wants to go out, and last night received an email from a gal I met who lives in VA beach and is flying in to town this weekend. Sounds great right? Not for me. I am singularly monogamous, and frankly don’t like hurting anyone. All three of these ladies think I only have them on the radar screen and I like all of them.

The problem with ATL is that sometimes there are just toooooooo dayum many choices. That is one of the reasons why men have a hard time committing…they want to choose the best of the many choices and usually end up screwing up all of them. And yes, I have several of THOSE t-shirts also.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
9:22 am

@ Peach, from my experience, they are divorced by paper but emotionally they are still tied to their ex wives.

Fulfilling Me (SMILE!)

August 17th, 2009
9:24 am

Morning All!

Do you even worry about the numbers or ratio of single people? Does it make us more competitive?

I don’t. It may make some competitive, but I know my worth and what I am looking for. It will take time to “find” him, but there is no competition from my end.

What do you think about the dating options in Atlanta? Are they working for you or against you?

There are a variety of options in Atlanta. Depends on what you are desiring and your patience level.

Have you changed up your “type” because of the perceived ratio on the dating scene?

Nope. Still know what I want.

abc

August 17th, 2009
9:25 am

I’d have to guess that the man Today is talking about is accustomed to chicks that offer adverse reaction, and in order to avoid conflict over things that don’t much matter, he just lets them slide. Her reaction shows pretty plainly that the reason he backs off is because she’s a beeyotch. Chicken or the egg? I don’t think so. Just my impression.

The numbers games… I haven’t noticed such a lopsided ratio myself, but I don’t hang out in clubs, and I figure that’s where they’d be most apparent.

Today

August 17th, 2009
9:32 am

Thanks for the comments. Im just use to the “stronger” type.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
9:32 am

As for the ratio of women to men, I’ve never been in a room/outdoor activities where the men out numbered the women, it’s not only in Atlanta either, when I’m visiting other cities the men are low in numbers too.

Chink

August 17th, 2009
9:38 am

Don’t believe the numbers game…plus might have to subtract those numbers to include alternative lifestyles. So I think we break even ..not into competitive sports with dating. Quality tops Quantity all day.

You know my Sexy...AND my Cool...

August 17th, 2009
9:44 am

Three Words Daily – Live life golden.

You know my Sexy...AND my Cool...

August 17th, 2009
9:46 am

Um. Yeah. Don’t have any issues attracting/meeting/dating men. One of my mottoes: What’s on a man’s mind? SexyCool, of course. Teasing….kinda…~lol~

Co-signing Chink @ 938a.

You know my Sexy...AND my Cool...

August 17th, 2009
9:47 am

Today – Buddy is giving you the representative. You may want to look for the real dude under the facade.

Melo

August 17th, 2009
9:51 am

& let him found someone who better:Today??!! Im just use to the “stronger” type i agree with abc,lol.

best of the many choices and usually end up screwing up all of them screwing as in messing up??

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
10:00 am

Hey Melo…yeah screwing up as in messing up. Losing all of the choices. Kind of like chasing after a bunch of papers that get blown by the wind.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
10:00 am

Good Monday morning blog people!

Today – That would drive me crazy – it is a little feminine. Sorry to stereotype, but I call em like I see em. It is one thing to be considerate, but another to try too dogon hard. He can’t keep all that up. If you all remain together, at some point he is going to fall asleep, so then what is he going to do? He’s also not being honest – you offer him something and he takes it knowing he does not want it!! How are you ever going to get to know the real him & find out what are his true likes & dislikes? Sounds like some self esteem issuses too. I would go nuts!

On topic – It’s a high ratio, but the numbers dwindle on EACH side when you subtract quality factors such as imprisonment, alternative lifestyles, drug usage, etc. I took myself out of the “game” a long time ago because I refuse to compete over the 4 or 5 same guys that everybody in ATL is going after!LOL!!

As for the reality shows having an adverse affect on the perception of women in ATL: It should have no more affect than the other countless negative, ghetto reality shows that are on tv with people from various cities. I’ve been exposed to ATL high society, and believe me, RHOA AIN’T nowhere near it! And if 5 wannabe chicks out of 4 million is all it takes for a guy to have a bad perception of women in ATL, then that tells me he’s not too intelligent. I’m attracted to intelligence, so he need not apply.

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
10:06 am

Good morning.

I arrived here in 1979, back then they said the ratio was 10 to 1. Not much have changed. There are a lot of beautiful women here. Some shallow, some wholesome, some golddiggers, some jumpoffs, some wifey material. The entire gamut of women are represented here in Atlanta (as I believe the same in other states). Nothing much have changed. I don’t mean any disrespect, the change I have noticed is the quality of men, not the quantity. Game playing is part of the dating scene. Ok, that’s a given. What’s also should be a given is that more men step to the plate and act like grown men and stop acting like snotty nosed school boys still wanting to play in the sandbox. Rell, don’t come after me this morning!!!! Both genders need to fine tune their attributes if they want to secure a loving, lasting relationship. That’s my take!

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
10:08 am

RE Kimmie’s 10:00 AM. I hate reality shows…because I have yet to see even one that even slightly resembles the “reality” that I know, but more like “freak shows” like a high brow Jerry Springer. As far as RHOA or any of the other RH’s I’ve tuned in to, some times they have been “eye candy” but talk about a bunch of ladies who could make some guy’s life pure “hellz”. I would really hate to think that any proportion of women are like that in real life.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
10:12 am

I hate reality shows…because I have yet to see even one that even slightly resembles the “reality” that I know, but more like “freak shows” like a high brow Jerry Springer.

Randy – Okay!!! Why anybody would take that mess serious is beyond me!

Leggs – Have to say I agree with you!

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
10:12 am

@Today, btw, when your man “snaps” don’t look surprised. To suppress something as simple as saying “no” to mundane requests will only percolate in his soul until boiling point. He may be a nice man, but he’s a wuss at heart (from what you typed here).

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
10:12 am

That is one of the reasons why men have a hard time committing…they want to choose the best of the many choices and usually end up screwing up all of them

@Randy… see, I feel if dudes would find a suitable woman and WORK at that relationship instead of “trying to choose the best”, it would save everyone involved some hurt feelings. “Grass is always greener” vs. “The 80/20 rule”….

@Grace… it’s possible that anybody dealing with the loss of a relationship can still be emotionally tied. I don’t think it’s exclusive to marriages. IMHO.

…it’s not only in Atlanta either, when I’m visiting other cities the men are low in numbers too.

I have to disagree. I was in Miami a few weeks back and it AMAZED me how the men outnumbered the women any given location. And I dont know if it’s because I live here, but I noticed. Big time! You know what else I noticed there too… white men step to black women like it’s nothing. It blew my mind – in a good way :)

Fulfilling Me (SMILE!)

August 17th, 2009
10:13 am

@Leggs…Good Post 10:06

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
10:16 am

The thing about reality shows is – nobody with good sense would go on one!!! So, as Randy stated, they are all freak shows.

Dan

August 17th, 2009
10:16 am

@Today

“Strength” can be misinterpreted sometimes. Is he strong of character? Is he strong morally? Is he strong in the protection of you? Think about where he is “strong” before assessing his weaknesses.

@Randy/On Topic

I don’t agree that “options” are the problem with non committed guys in the A. More than anything, it’s guys trying to do too much. A dude in the frame of mind for committment will see through the numbers to woman (women) that he chooses.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
10:20 am

Peach I’m only speaking on my behalf, when it comes to divorced men, maybe I attract the ones who need a shoulder to cry on and/or vent.

Maybe I need to visit Miami :lol:

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
10:25 am

@Grace – I feel ya. We all can only speak for our own experiences :)
And yes… please… go to Miami!!!

The Real Rell - vanglorious

August 17th, 2009
10:26 am

see, I feel if dudes would find a suitable woman and WORK at that relationship instead of “trying to choose the best”, it would save everyone involved some hurt feelings. “Grass is always greener” vs. “The 80/20 rule”….

- my problem…lol

Kym

August 17th, 2009
10:26 am

Good Morning All,

Do you even worry about the numbers or ratio of single people? Not really..but I know competition is high. And yes I can see that women are becoming increasingly competitive.

What do you think about the dating options in Atlanta? Slim to none in the case of what I am looking for. Like kimmie said alternative lifestyles and the bling bling factor have driven me away from the game.

Have you changed up your “type” because of the perceived ratio on the dating scene? Hmm no I have not changed my overall type but I am begining to think outside the box in terms of options. (Different race, background, etc..) Not height..height is a must.

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
10:27 am

Dan re:10:16 …may be. All I know is sometimes between it and my job, things can get overwhelming. I’m at a stage in my life where I appreciate “easy” and that is not in the cards. I guess I’m lazy but I want it all (perfect woman, perfect job, etc.) to be just dropped in my lap and I don’t have to think about it, LOL. As “Pogo” said many years ago, “We have seen the enemy, and he is us”.

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
10:27 am

@Fulfilling ~ Thanks!

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
10:27 am

Awwww Man ya’ll know my take on this.. Yes my motto is its easier to find a good woman in Atlanta than it is to find a good man. The ratio is lopsided and crazy but yes quality trumps quantity.. I also think when you factor in these dudes that like dudes its crazy. The reason why I say women its easier to find a good woman is because its simple.. Women have their ish together and alot of these chumps dont. I do know this, women that are fine get hit on alot so I guess it equals out.. I really think it depends on the person as to how the ratio affects you.. Ya’ll know Im talking bout me Im not talking bout those other cats..

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
10:30 am

Peach – That’s your Miami experience – with others I know, not so much, including a few that have moved HERE from there. There is more interracial dating there probably, if that is ones cup of tea. Just goes to show, it’s all about one’s own personal experiences. The grass always looks greener everywhere else too.

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
10:31 am

@Ima…”see, I feel if dudes would find a suitable woman and WORK at that relationship instead of “trying to choose the best”, it would save everyone involved some hurt feelings. “Grass is always greener” vs. “The 80/20 rule”….”

You are so right and I agree completely. It is kind of like dieting and bad habits or messing with the obvious wrong ones, we all know what we SHOULD do, the hard part is the “application” of what we already know. I guess we all almost all seduced by “the Dark Side”.

Dan

August 17th, 2009
10:36 am

@Peach

Your solution applies to men and women.

Wants and needs being two different things is something that some folks just don’t understand…..even in their 30s and 40s.

Norvee Michelle

August 17th, 2009
10:39 am

@Today he sounds insecure, and is afraid of losing you. So he doesn’t want to disagree or go against anything you say hoping that’ll bring you closer. The thing is its natural and perfectly healthy for couples to disagree. An insecure man is hard to handle … you have to deal with jealously, clinginess and etc. I’d think long and hard before getting involved any deeper.

@Wise Diva There are plenty of great women here and plenty of great men here … its just for whatever reason we don’t consistently hang out in the same places. I’ve been in Atl six years and haven’t had a problem dating a good man per se … its just finding someone I want to be with for the long term.

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
10:41 am

Hey Leggs… ;-)

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
10:45 am

Today – He has succumb to the thought that in order to make your woman happy you have to do whatever she wants you to do.. Its all over the media that a dude should make Mama happy and then he will be happy. He doesnt know the balance yet. Why dont you just tell him? Well its either in you or it aint.. Hey you might just be too much woman for him..

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
10:46 am

Why Infamous, how are you this fine morning (said in the finest southern dialect). Ok, that’s my rep. Here’s me. Wassup, how are things going?! :lol:

Poster

August 17th, 2009
10:52 am

15 to 1? I very highly doubt that. It doesn’t really matter because even if that is the ratio, those 15 women are not what men are looking for. A large percentage now do not even like men. The ones that are left are either looking for a benefactor or do not exactly take pride in their appearance (health, body type). The competition is not between the women its between the men trying to find those very few women that we actually would be happy with. Sorry I am just telling the truth, don’t take it personal. Men, can I get a second here?

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
10:52 am

1. He says he’s scared to fall asleep at my place because he snores & he doesn’t want to keep me woke, – Actual, He busted one and want to spend the night and have to listen your yapping in the morning.

2. If we talking on the phone & he doesn’t hear/or understand what I said he doesn’t want to ask me to repeat myself – Actual, He don’t give a flying fugg what you are talking about. The only reason he is on the phone is to ensure he can bust another one and leave cause he don’t want to wake you.

If I offer him something he does want to say no, knowing he doesn’t want it. – Actual, He knows you would argue with a dead man just to get your point across. So why bother,just eat the cake Anne May.

On topic: I don’t believe in the numbers. Women are always talking about there aren’t any men in Atlanta. Which is a bold face lie. There are plenty of men they just don’t fit what you think you want. Stop looking for steak in the bread isle.

Blog ladies do me a favor list the physical and mental makeup of the man you want. I trying to prove a point to a friend of mines.

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
10:53 am

I do know this, women that are fine get hit on a lot so I guess it equals out..

@DK – can you explain? I don’t get what you’re saying… how does it equal out?

@Kimmie – well, you know everything is better x10 when you’re on vacation.

@Dan – agreed. Applicable to both parties.

If I may – I have a friend who’s going through a divorce – inspired by the wife. They have been married for 14 years and I believe his wife is in for a very rude awakening when she begins to date.

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
10:56 am

LOL @ Ballwood! Nobody in their right mind is going to play your list game – I’ll tell you what I’m NOT looking for. How bout that???

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
10:56 am

Leggs – I was reading your 10:46 and you know what I can’t stand? When they make people use fake southern accents on commercials & films & such! Especially when they have AA people do it! It irritates me to no end! Like we are still out on a plantation or something. It’s plenty people with a real accent if that’s what you want. I think that’s why Paula Deen irritates me some time – because I know her accent is exaggerated because I saw her on an interview and she let it slip!LOL!

That’s just my little vent today, your post just brought it to mind.LOL!

girlinthecity

August 17th, 2009
10:57 am

I feel that as a black woman, dating in Atlanta is almost impossible. Usually there’s one of 4 things going on:

1. they’re gay
2. they’re downlow and trying to use you as a cover
3. they have a “baby mama”
4. they know that they are a good catch so they set impossible standards

If you don’t look like a Halle or Beyonce clone, men won’t even try to talk to you. They don’t respect someone who’s hard working and financially independent if they don’t look like a “dime”.

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
11:02 am

Peach – Because Chicks that are Fine get more attention. Hence more guys hitting on them and more dating opportunities. Im not saying they find a dude everytime because most dudes are inherent liars but “the numbers game” is in their favor because they are not on the bench. They are in the game scoring so they have a better chance at going to the pro bowl than a player sitting on the bench not getting any playing time..

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
11:04 am

Peach: I tell you what you don’t want that’s easy. I want to know what you do want. Now that’s the 25,000 question.

Girl: Are you talking about dating or getting married? Also, 1 and 2 on your list are the samething and 3 should be held against the “baby mama” for being a “baby mama”, so you only really have 1 thang which is “they know they are a good catch” What’s wrong with a dude setting standards and sticking to them? You have standards right. If not, do you like alligators?

Dan

August 17th, 2009
11:04 am

@girlinthecity

Methinks me smells self-pity….

Of the 4 things you’ve listed 1 and 2 are virtually the same thing; #3 is a personal perference; and #4 is valid to a degree.

To address only #4, for a man to “set impossible standards” is the equivalent of a woman dreaming of “Mr. Right”. We each have personal preferences that drive us toward a certain type of person. To put on my Truth hat for a minute, why not figure out what your value on the market is and play to your strengths.

Regardless of “the numbers”, there are people that will buy the products (read: you) if you market it correctly.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
11:08 am

DK getting attention is one thing but getting the attention and keeping it is another thing, hence the term “I can get em, I just can’t keep em”

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
11:08 am

Ballwood – I would agree alot of women could have a good man if they expanded their horizons and opened up to new opportunities. See dudes date what looks cool and likes them and go from there. We dont get into careers or things like that. We only care that the chick aint trying to gouge our pockets and she brings something to the table.

The Real Rell - vanglorious

August 17th, 2009
11:10 am

They don’t respect someone who’s hard working and financially independent if they don’t look like a “dime”.

-whets your phone namber shawty…lol

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
11:11 am

@DK – ok. Well, without going into to much detail – I use to be hella fat and I’m not anymore. I get way more attention now (nobodys surprised by that). But that doesn’t put the #s game in my favor or even it out. When I was bigger, I may have met 2 guys while I was out and end up with nothing. Now, I may meet 6 guys in one night and STILL end up with nothing!!! Lol. The numbers are still the same… 15 to 1 (approximately). There is still 1 of yall and 15 of us.

True there are more dating opportunities but that also comes along with more opportunities for a let down.

M. (pronounced m dot)

August 17th, 2009
11:11 am

My story in Atlanta is still the same. I compared it to shopping at Marshalls. You know there is a nice cashmere sweater on sale here but you have to look through the clearance section, the misplaced clothes, etc until you find what you looking for. Usually you are already exhausted!

I think there are alot of prospects here but its just so much fluff in every area so you just have to make it through all that. The numbers are really unrealistic. If its 7-1, only 2 are even worth dealing with.

Atlanta is like any other place I lived. There’s always going to be drama and issues, etc. Just stay true to who you are and always operate in integrity.

@Ballwood

LOL

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
11:12 am

Ballwood – Dogg you getting down today.. Again its ok for them to have standards but we should accept them as they are.. Bad credit, maniac ex, 4 baby daddies and living wit mama nem..

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
11:14 am

@Ball – what I do want might change tomorrow. what I don’t want will remain constant.

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
11:16 am

Peach – Ok I might be wrong I just thought fine chicks could get boinked whenever they wanted too.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
11:17 am

I don’t know why some women think that looks will guaruntee a man. Look around, there’s some very ordinary looking people who are in lasting relationships or married. Expose the beauty you have within.

Dan

August 17th, 2009
11:18 am

@Grace

Keeping a man is simply keeping his attention. Not in a “look at me” way, but a “let’s see what all we can do together” kinda way.

That’s why people (women and men) that are set in their ways have soo many prollems keepin mates. Learn the one you with and go from there….

@Peach

Ahhhh, the “ugly duckling” syndrome….I love you ladies. Attractive, but look in the mirror and still see the unattractive version.

But here’s a secret; the same person you were when you were heavier, is the person that you are now. You actually have an untapped advantage, you (unlike the pretty girls that developed early) should have a personality. So finding a guy is the matter of weeding out the lames.

Chink

August 17th, 2009
11:21 am

Peach Sometimes its just not the right time also…try different venues for more stimulating men…we all go through “droughts” maybe focus on something else and he will fall right in your path!

Grace

August 17th, 2009
11:21 am

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
11:22 am

Grace – Amen to your 11:17! The plainest folks I know have spouses or SO’s! They may not be the “Halle” or “Boris” standard of beauty, but I believe everyone has something about them that is attractive to someone. Like Dan said, there is a market for what another finds attractive!

Like Judge Judy says in her book – Beauty fades, dumb is forever!LOL!!

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
11:23 am

Morning all,

I see the topic turned early today.

In any case, I’ve been hearing about the numbers since I left for college. They don’t dissuade me nor do they discourage me.

It only takes “one” and with faith in God, it doesn’t matter what the odds are.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
11:26 am

Shy one – That’s always how I’ve approached it, it only takes one! One is mine!

Today

August 17th, 2009
11:27 am

@Kimmie – “That would drive me crazy”, It does believe me. I have told him he can be Overkill sometimes especially with the compliments.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
11:28 am

Today

August 17th, 2009
11:30 am

Norvee Michelle

@Today he sounds insecure, I AGREE

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
11:31 am

That is one of the reasons why men have a hard time committing…they want to choose the best of the many choices and usually end up screwing up all of them. And yes, I have several of THOSE t-shirts also.

:lol:

RandyT – So true. Funny how that happens.

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
11:31 am

Peach: what I do want might change tomorrow. what I don’t want will remain constant. – You are proving my point. Women don’t know what they want but will focus with laser beam accuracy on what they don’t want. Why not put the same energy and focus into finding out what you do want? Like I said I can tell you what you don’t want that’s easy. Remember every rose has a thorn but it’s thorns you are focusing on.

Dan: agree

Kimmie: Beauty fades, dumb is forever – Heyyyyy don’t bad mouth the beautiful dumb chicks, they got a purpose too.

"Longtime Lurker"

August 17th, 2009
11:32 am

Great comments this morning! My take on this situation is this…

One, don’t buy into the whole shortage of men thing! My question is who had the time to count every man in Atlanta and measure the quality of said dudes?

Two, there are many good, quality men handling their biz out there, the problem is that he may not always look like you want him to look, therefore, many women don’t feel like he exists!

Three, folks often want what they are not themselves! If you are not the most educated, smart, attractive, credit responsible, independent person yourself, what makes you think that that person wants you?

Fourth, there are a very large portion of men in this country being raised solely by women, with no man in sight! There is nothing wrong with a woman raising a man, but a woman cannot teach a man how to be a responsible man!

Many men have had women take care of them their whole life, so as an adult, why should he suddenly want to be a man and take care of his woman? Many men feel it is okay to have a woman take care of them and not step up to the plate, nor do many women demand that that guy act as a man! Many men don’t know how to step up to the plate, so women should not be surprised or upset because those men were never taught the fundamentals of being a true man!

Fifth, we need to start being honest with ourselves and loose the fake notions that we are “all that” because the reality is that there are far more folks with major issues with their overall character vs. people who have themselves together!

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
11:33 am

As for the ratio of women to men, I’ve never been in a room/outdoor activities where the men out numbered the women,

Grace – Hit the cigar bar scene. Women avoid it like the plague cuz you have to wash your hair the next day. So a woman walking into that environment already gives her a leg up, especially if she knows her stuff at that!

Poster

August 17th, 2009
11:33 am

#1. Mr. Right wants someone who will ADD to his life, not take from it.

#2. Mr. Right wants someone who takes pride in their appearance. How can we be proud of you, if you are not even proud of you. Exercise, workout, have a nice body. No excuses with that one. Peach confirmed it, change your body, change the # game. Think of your body as a resume when there is 10% unemployment and bills are due.

#3. To keep a Mr. Right, understand him! Ladies you are the complicated ones. Men are very simple. As long as you continue to keep our attention and meet our needs we will stay. Where you have many wants and needs, we have very few. Think of ours as being just as important as yours and treat them accordingly. Remember the 3 Ss

The Real Rell - vanglorious

August 17th, 2009
11:34 am

Three, folks often want what they are not themselves! If you are not the most educated, smart, attractive, credit responsible, independent person yourself, what makes you think that that person wants you?

-MESSAGE

your whole post was on point LL – CHUUUCH

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
11:35 am

@DK – boinking game done changed! You can’t even rely on yall for that anymore. smh!

@Dan – nah, don’t have the “ugly duckling” syndrome. Lol. I had to laugh at that one. Thanks for the tip but I didn’t really need it. Maybe you can look at my situation and call it an “advantage” but I don’t. Big or small, finding a guy is always a process of weeding.

@Chink – I agree. Im very comfy with me and know there is nothing wrong with being single. I don’t like it, but I’m ok with how God has been working on me over the last 3 years.

Kym

August 17th, 2009
11:36 am

Can someone bring me a tuna footlong for lunch? I left my sandwich at home and I don’t want to go out in the weather.

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
11:36 am

Hit the cigar bar scene – or the barber shop, likka sto, rib jont

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
11:37 am

I have told him he can be Overkill sometimes especially with the compliments.

Today – Have you ever seen that show Millionaire Matchmaker? There was this guy(millionaire) that was nice-looking and seemed to have his self together, unlike some of the crazy dudes that come on there. Well, he went out with a young lady and they had the makings of what could have been a terrific first date with the promise of more to come. He ruined it by complimenting her every 5 minutes – “Has anyone told you you have the most beautiful eyes?”, “You are so beautiful”, etc. At first she found it flattering, after awhile it got creepy. She refused a 2nd date with him. Just goes to show, even money can’t buy confidence.

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
11:38 am

Peach – For real ya’ll cant even depend on us for the boinkage.. Wow now Im at a loss for words on that one.. Please explain..

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
11:39 am

Can someone bring me a tuna footlong for lunch? – Zippppppppppppppp footlong tuna!

The Real Rell - vanglorious

August 17th, 2009
11:39 am

@p404….whats ya phone namber..lol

Fulfilling Me (SMILE!)

August 17th, 2009
11:39 am

“Expose the beauty you have within.”

Love it!

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
11:41 am

Kimmie: Have I told you that I like your fangas.

Peach: You can’t even rely on yall for that anymore. smh! – Awwww naw hell naw now. When Kym get her fill of tuna I’ll bring you some black cake.

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
11:43 am

Fulfilling Me aka Touch Myself dese many times

Mike Jones (who)

August 17th, 2009
11:44 am

—I have told him he can be Overkill sometimes especially with the compliments.

Yeah you have to watch the compliments! Too many and you sound like a groupie lol, too few and she thinks you aren’t interested.

Fulfilling Me (SMILE!)

August 17th, 2009
11:44 am

Lol Ballwood. Cute that you would interpret it that way, but uh not so much.

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
11:46 am

Women don’t know what they want but will focus with laser beam accuracy on what they don’t want.

@Ball – so, whats the difference between “standards” and “focusing on what you don’t want”? Straight up, I’m not going to tell a man what I do want b/c you run the risk of him turning into that man for the short-haul instead of him being himself for the long. In addition, I would really like for someone to show me something new. Something i’ve never seen before… kind of like “you never know what you’ve been missing until you get it”. Understand?

So a woman walking into that environment already gives her a leg up… I foresee some 6th grade level comments coming from this statement lol.

The Real Rell - vanglorious

August 17th, 2009
11:47 am

“Has anyone told you you have the most beautiful eyes?”, “You are so beautiful”, etc. At first she found it flattering, after awhile it got creepy. She refused a 2nd date with him. Just goes to show, even money can’t buy confidence.

-lol..this just goes to show…that brown-nosin does not work with women…that you have not slept with…now after you sleep with her its required you call her 349839483948394839483 times a day to tell her how happy and thankful you are for her being in your life..its also required that you give up your life to place your lips on her a zz daily..its like she is the sun and you are the earth and you revolve around her for everything….lol…..thats the problem…

this why i have rules and regs on first dates….etc etc…cause when you do the opposite….then you see what happens…

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
11:47 am

LL – But what are we suppose to do about the guys that were raised by women or don’t know how to treat a woman? We’re looking for a man to date & get to know. We’re not out here looking for someone to raise. All that is not on your mind when you’re out mixing and mingling!LOL!!

What’s “all that” to you is not “all that” to someone else and vice-versa. We are all imperfect. That’s why beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Ballwood – Preciate it. They purty, aren’t they?LOL!!

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
11:50 am

Rell – You had to see that episode. It was irritating just to watch it on the few snippets of the date they showed!

Balance, it’s all about balance baby.

MsM

August 17th, 2009
11:51 am

Dude would never suggest doing/going but was always ok with everything I suggested… Would say “I’ve been married twice, I know what to do” After he got comfortable, didn’t want to do anything except lay around on my couch. I think he was looking for someplace to live, arrangement as described to me was suspect to say the least. I listened and observed carefully (another thing he liked to say he does), and sure enough something else he kinda sorta told me/but didn’t reared its ugly head… exit stage left.

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
11:51 am

@DK – Before (ish changed) you could always count on a dude to come serve you up. Now… dudes can turn down the nootsie b/c there are SO many options. Like Chris Rock said – the stock has dropped b/c the market is flooded.

Last week someone – don’t remember who – mentioned having to wait. He said after a while, he loses interest in it. So, if a female holds her cards to long dude will move on.

@Rell – 404.777.9311

Dan

August 17th, 2009
11:53 am

@Today

Are you really saying that a man can compliment you too much? Are you serious?

I mean are the compliments “over the top” or numerous? Really, what is the problem with your man complimenting you?

@Peach

I was paying you a compliment (a backhanded one, but a compliment nonetheless). Apparently, you can’t do that anymore these days….smdh

The Real Rell - vanglorious

August 17th, 2009
11:54 am

@P404…CUTE….lol

@kimmie

Rell – You had to see that episode. It was irritating just to watch it on the few snippets of the date they showed!

Balance, it’s all about balance baby.

- whats funny i use to be that dude…and depending on the stars…moons..and quasars…and a hard penis…i can revert to the above activity….lol

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
11:54 am

Dan – COME ON! Obviously they are “over the top” or it would not be an issue. There IS a such thing as “too much” of a good thing! At a point, it is not sincere!

Grace

August 17th, 2009
11:55 am

Cigar bar – hmmmm I’m not a smoker so I guess that won’t work :oops:

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
11:56 am

Rell – At least you recognize!LOL!!

ImAPeach404

August 17th, 2009
11:57 am

@Dan… i recognize a backhanded compliment when i see one. hence, the response. sMh

Dan

August 17th, 2009
11:58 am

@Kimmie

A man paying his woman a compliment (let’s say) every other day would equate to about 121 compliments a year.

If your man can’t find 121 nice things to say to you about you, what does that really say about your relationship?

Now, giving toooooo many compliments is a problem? hahahahahaha

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
11:58 am

WOW!!! 404 777-9311

Dan

August 17th, 2009
12:00 pm

@Peach

My apologies if I offended you, without a frame of reference (before/after), I was generalizing. I did not intend for that to be a personal statement.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
12:01 pm

Cigar bar – hmmmm I’m not a smoker so I guess that won’t work

Grace – There is no rule that you have to smoke. Just like you don’t have to drink at a bar.

I am not a smoker either.

"Longtime Lurker"

August 17th, 2009
12:05 pm

I also want to add to my earlier post, dating in Atlanta is like this…

I am sooooo tired of folks saying “I am a good man”, “I am a good woman” The fact is this; the validity or true definition of a “good man” or “good woman” is in the eyes of the beholder or person you are trying to date, not you!

“Quit walking around with your resume on blast and expecting someone to be impressed with your credentials! It actually works against you more times than it helps you!

Atlanta is full of potential, pride and ego, but lacks few people who are humble and know how to play their position, where it benefits that individual!

If you are educated, then fine, keep it to yourself, it will come out without you saying it! If you are independent, then fine, keep it to yourself, it will be observed! If you are outgoing and ambitious, again, it will be noted!

Sometimes your downfall (women) may be the fact that you don’t know how to be humble and let a man be a man and lead! Sometimes you do yourself disservice when you talk too much or give too much of yourself too soon! Sometimes women you should be less competitive and more receptive to “All” possibilities instead of only a few!

Remember this, a man does not want competition at work and in his personal life!

The Real Rell - vanglorious

August 17th, 2009
12:06 pm

@dk..yea i got a good laugh out of that one….there is also some number where there is a recording or something..i cant remember that number..but she does not want to contact the blog pariah….do you peach…dwilliams2022@hotmail

@cigarchick…at a pool party this weekend a former co-worker came thru with her crew of chicks from the cigar bar…they were all tennitions..and they all had big a zz “boss hogg” style cigars…i thought that was so not sexy

Melo

August 17th, 2009
12:06 pm

I am not a smoker either

hey Ared/Grace! yeah i know,u just a hunter,right? :lol: :lol:

Grace,see,u dont have to drink/smoke to go out and meet guys…
:lol:

Grace

August 17th, 2009
12:08 pm

Ared – yeah but I detest the smell of smoke. I just remember about a pool hall I visited a while back, the hall was so smokey I needed an air mask, but there were massive men in there. I haven’t been back since because of the smoke. I just don’t like the smell.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
12:09 pm

hey Ared/Grace! yeah i know,u just a hunter,right?

melo – Never that! I am the prey. :twisted:

Welcome back.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
12:11 pm

Rell

there is also some number where there is a recording or something..i cant remember that number

Yeah, 867-5309 was a song that was a big hit, too.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
12:12 pm

let’s say I do go to a cigar bar and I met a guy, we hit it off but with him being a smoker I would have to hold my nose around him because he reaks of smoke, and his kisses will be like kissing an ashtray.

You know my Sexy...AND my Cool...

August 17th, 2009
12:12 pm

Fellas – Does a non-smoking female in a cigar bar come across as a groupie or, worse yet, desparate?

Grace – I agree with you in that you should not go places where you are uncomfortable. If you meet a man in a smoking environment, you can’t be mad if he smokes and you got asthma.

You do have to do SOMEthing, but you really ain’t gotta do THAT much.

Blow Me

August 17th, 2009
12:14 pm

**It only takes “one” and with faith in God, it doesn’t matter what the odds are.**

ARED- I would hate to admit…we think alot alike. Is that why I don’t like you? I say this VERABATIM to my friends. It only takes one…Just one. You can play the numbers game however you see fit to your favor. But Do YALL really want to break those numbers down?

LL-**Two, there are many good, quality men handling their biz out there, the problem is that he may not always look like you want him to look, therefore, many women don’t feel like he exists!**

Lol..Funny statement. I am about to kill the whole gang with this one. Why do women have to expect less when it comes to getting a man?
When all throughout this blog…the guys are saying look like Beyonce and Halle…Look good and keep it tight. So if we have to do ALL of that way would we settle for GREMLIN…The reasoning never seems to make sense. MEN are constantly telling women to take a short. When women tell MEN to Accept a short…That act like is blasphemous…SMH!

I say this VERABATIM to my friends. It only takes one…Just one. You can play the numbers game however you see fit to your favor. But Do YALL really want to break those numbers down?

Grace

August 17th, 2009
12:15 pm

Sex – I don’t think she’s desparte, she could be expanding her horizon, I don’t know….finding that diamond behind the puffs.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
12:18 pm

Sexy

Does a non-smoking female in a cigar bar come across as a groupie or, worse yet, desparate?

It doesn’t come off as any more desperate than straight chicks hanging in the Blue Flame, Magic City or the Cheetah if they are cool with that atomsphere.

IMO thing that is desperate is doing things out of your nature or not being true to yourself.

So, it is not a blanket answer for all females.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
12:18 pm

Grace – You are thinking to hard. Not everyone at cigar bars smoke. And if they are smoking, an occasional cigar does not make you a smoker.

I only suggested it because you’ve said you’ve never been anywhere where there were more guys than girls. I simply named a place. There was not an order that you must visit. :lol:

"Longtime Lurker"

August 17th, 2009
12:21 pm

@kimmie, on your 11:47. I have said it before and I will say it again! Sometimes the exterior package does not match what is on the inside! We all have to be detectives when dating! People give too much of themselves too soon in most cases! Women and men don’t ask enough questions, therefore, you find yourselves in situations that are preventable!

Most folks marry and never discuss each others differences in raising children or view each others credit report prior to marriage! We are living in an accelerated society where everyone wants everything on microwave and as a result, people are finding themselves in more ish that could have been prevented!

To answer your question, if I was considering getting involved with a man, my first questions would be aimed at his family structure and his relations with women. Second, I would point blank ask him did he grow up with his dad or did he have a relationship with his dad or any other father figures! I would also ask him does he have kids and what is his relationship with his kids, baby mom, ex-wife, etc. How often does he see them and what activities do they engage in when he is with them!

Character in a man or woman is “THE” most important trait and this should be the first item of importance on everyone’s list that you should be seeking in a mate. It is rare that I hear many people I talk to on the regular mention this trait in their laundry list of wants and needs in dating prospects.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
12:22 pm

IMO thing that is desperate is doing things out of your nature or not being true to yourself.

PG – Agreed.

The first time I went was because I was with a group that decided to watch the NBA playoffs there. It was fun. It was a nice atmosphere, and a great way to learn about something I didn’t know about before.

But a place like that does seem to divert whiny, complaining, close minded females too, so that’s another advantage. :lol:

Black Mamba AKA Princess Xiomara

August 17th, 2009
12:23 pm

I am so tired of people saying…”let a man be a man”. First of all…if he is such a “man”…why should someone have to “Let” him be one. Shouldn’t that just be? I mean I was born with a chocha so that makes me a woman regardless of what people say or think about me. Nobody has to “let” me be anything. I am who and what I am. I do not tout my education or anything. Who I am just radiates from me upon meeting me. You either like it or you don’t. But it doesn’t bother me. I will not change myself for a man for anyone who thinks there is something wrong with the way I am.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
12:24 pm

Ared I preciate the suggestion! :wink:

MR. Unknown

August 17th, 2009
12:24 pm

What up, guys… The number game plays a big role in a womans perception of the atl dating experince… Meaning,, If I hear another woman talking about there are not enough avail good brothers in the city, which is followed by half of them are gay, which is follwed by the Myth of the down low brother, to the rest are dogs,, If thats your idea of the dating pool then yes, your SOL, seems like a lot of women set themselves up for failure before getting out the gate.. Looking for the bad in a person, never equals success to me…

Since when does being nice a turn off, dang!! Now I got to be BEASTING on you all day. So I need to bring back the Guerilla punch? Guerilla punch you in the chest, everytime you do something I don’t like(me no like what you give as gift, (GUERILLA PUNCH!), me no like when you shake bed because im snoring at 3am, (GUERILLA PUNCH!!) lol

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
12:24 pm

ARED- I would hate to admit…we think alot alike. Is that why I don’t like you?

:roll: :arrow:

Melo

August 17th, 2009
12:24 pm

thanx Ared!

Fellas – Does a non-smoking female in a cigar bar come across as a groupie or, worse yet, desparate?

SexxyCool, it wld look desperate if she dont smoke nor drink,shes in there alone,her hands folded and waiting for the next guy to step up to her.
If she just enjoys the atmosphere and company of strange men for no other reason that just talk or sports,then its ok, i guess.
But i been to those places where the women’s sole purpose is to scope the next phine guy,stepping in with his sexxiness,and the women are all up and down,looking at them,wondering whose gonna step up to her.The look is smetimes obvious.
Thats a desperation move.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
12:33 pm

AR/Melo/SexyC

I used to know dudes that would hang out at the old Shoemakers Warehouse in Amsterdam Walk just “scope Betties” aka hit on chicks. Now IMO that came off as desperate because the dudes were trying to buy shoes. They were looking for females.

However, I knew guys that went there because they were really into getting shoes and if they met someone while there, so be it. They weren’t looking for females, they were looking for a pair of Steve Maddens.

You know my Sexy...AND my Cool...

August 17th, 2009
12:33 pm

I see where you all are coming from. Thanks for the scenarios and explanations.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
12:34 pm

Now IMO that came off as desperate because the dudes were NOT trying to buy shoes.

"Longtime Lurker"

August 17th, 2009
12:36 pm

I met the famous chef G Garvin a few weeks’ ago at a function I attended. He said to me that every woman he meets asks him if he is going to cook for them, his answer is always no!!

He reasoning made perfect sense, when he broke it down, as he stated that he only gives up that side of him to an individual when he is in a committed relationship with them and that he gives all but that piece to anyone he is dating!

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
12:38 pm

Do you even worry about the numbers or ratio of single people? Does it make us more competitive?

Like my mama says on anything, worrying is going to do what for you? I agree with many of the comments. I do think the numbers are somewhat skewed. Men have rotation. Those so-called 15 single chicks to a dude are chicks being recycled. If a dude ain’t really ready, nothing you can do, being the stand-up woman and all, will really suffice. There will always being not enough of this that and the other or too much of this that and the other and vice versa….same goes for chicks looking but not really. I say be the best chick I can be, head and shoulders, crossing my t’s and dotting my i’s (not perfection but on point), what’s there to worry about? Frankly, I’m not bothered at all by the numbers game neither do I wish to be a Halle Berry/Beyonce look alike. girlinthecity —>All the emotional ups and downs Halle has endured from getting the hearing slapped out of her ear to attempting suicide to hooking up with a sex addict should be indicative that you need more than good looks. So what you don’t turn as many heads as she or Beyonce. For the one head you do turn, be your best beautiful you, work on you FOR YOU…not to snag a man. Be confident, know when he’s worth the compromise and no matter how good/good looking, it’s not worth tolerating someone using jedi mind tricks. Relationships and love is not a life guarantee. Got to have more going on than that being your sole central focus. I just believe though, if you have it going on for you, how can you not attract? Just what I think.

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
12:45 pm

@LL, both your posts were fabulous!

@Ms. Main –> “For the one head you do turn, be your best beautiful you, work on you FOR YOU…not to snag a man. Bravo, since my divorce I’ve been working on that and the results are noticeable by everyone who knows me. Love yourself first before you could love another or even have someone want to love you!

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
12:52 pm

Blow ME – Because ya’ll know were visual.. Ya’ll are supposed to emotional and looks just arent that important because women strive to not be a cave mannish as men.. Come on make up your minds..

Deeva4Life

August 17th, 2009
12:53 pm

Great post Ms. Main!!!

Melo

August 17th, 2009
12:55 pm

<strong?I just believe though, if you have it going on for you, how can you not attract?

agree,to a point.To sell urself,u gotta be easy to look at and easy to talk to/with and ur mouf makes sense.
But like LL said,some look good to the eye and on the outside but go deeper,its all rotten inside.
A lot of females look good on the outside too,so the numbers are really inflated,on both side, i wld think.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
12:56 pm

Now IMO that came off as desperate because the dudes were NOT trying to buy shoes.

:lol: PG – Yeah, that’s a bit extra.

Bars are for socializing, drinking, fellowship, etc. Just because you throw a “cigar” in front of it doesn’t change anything other than you can smoke in there.

How silly would it be to deprive yourself of hanging with friends just because you don’t do one aspect of it. Pleanty of folks pass on the cheesecake at the Cheesecake Factory, but still go. :lol:

And no, I’m not a smoker but have been persuaded to try a cigar. I get a “girly” one and am told not to inhale. No problems there. :lol:

I like it when the guy lights it for me. :twisted:

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
1:00 pm

G Garvin aint famous

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
1:00 pm

LL – But you said some good things

Kym

August 17th, 2009
1:02 pm

Are we still on topic? This subway 5 dollar deal is really the best.

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
1:04 pm

Thanks Leggs,Deeva4Life

Melo I can dig the fact that men are visual but for the most part, what a person is born with is what it is. Society says either you feel stuck cause the physical ain’t popping or you’re fortunate. I say neither.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
1:04 pm

AR

How silly would it be to deprive yourself of hanging with friends just because you don’t do one aspect of it.

That is why I mentioned the strip clubs. I used to have female friends that would hang with us at the Gold Club and The Gentlemen’s Club. We paid for anything that they wanted at said club because they were good sports about it.

On another note:I just saw a commercial for Oprah’s show, and she will have the Bunny Ranch chicks on it. I’m surprised Oprah would have them on her show. Especially after her views against Ludacris and other rappers.

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
1:08 pm

and I think I’m good….maybe not to all but I’ve been told and shown (an appreciation for the outer) but a woman has to move on to better once she comes into her own and further into “womanhood.” That’s okay for focusing when you’re 20 and think “looks are it”…and I’m talking looks are it for me and looks are it—> for him, the dude, the cutest one you can find. You learn that it’s not as important when life takes you deeper than the surface. I ain’t gon lie though, a dude with a swag makes a sister have to focus harder…lol

Kym

August 17th, 2009
1:08 pm

@ARed I have friends that do a bunch of things I don’t like to do. Normally on those outings I don’t go. So if I don’t smoke, why would I subject myself to a place where there is smoking just to meet a dude? If anything, I wouldn’t want to meet a dude at a place I don’t frequent because if we do hit it off he might expect me to go back. That liking it because my friends like it or going because they are going played out in junior high.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:10 pm

We paid for anything that they wanted at said club because they were good sports about it.

PG – Nicely done. Yes, being a good sport is a benefit!

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
1:10 pm

Ms Main – Maybe Halle is crazy or the sex aint nothing.. The prettiest chicks are the most insecure. Beyonce dont do it for me.. I get cussed out cause I think Kelly is the one I would date. Kelly is naturally sexy and not manufactored sexy.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:12 pm

So if I don’t smoke, why would I subject myself to a place where there is smoking just to meet a dude?

Kym – Um…that’s not the point. So you lost me. Maybe you haven’t read all the responses yet.

Kym

August 17th, 2009
1:17 pm

I read enough..the implication is there.

Tazzee - Football season is officially here!

August 17th, 2009
1:19 pm

Can someone bring me a tuna footlong for lunch? – Zippppppppppppppp footlong tuna!

I don’t know comments like that still make me laugh…

Afternoon folks.

Dan

August 17th, 2009
1:21 pm

@DK

Right thurr witcha bruh!

Kelly was the quietly “the cute one”….

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
1:23 pm

Kym

You seemed to miss the implication. If it was something in which she wasn’t being true to herself, then yes it is high schoolish. However, if it is something with which she was comfortable it isn’t high schoolish. As long as she is being true to herself, it is cool.

If she is compromising herself in anyway, then it is peer pressure-ish.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:25 pm

I read enough..the implication is there.

Kym – Then you read wrong. I’m not a sheep, and I do things because I want to do them.

A cigar bar is a bar. I like bars, I frequent bars. I meet my friends, I hang out, I watch sports. Doesn’t change because cigars are served there.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:27 pm

PG – Thanks.

Good grief folks can run ish into the ground. ;)

It’s a bar folks. Not a meth lab. :lol:

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
1:28 pm

DK: Beyonce manufactured??? Naw but different strokes tho…

Main: Beauty is only skin deep but crazy goes to the bone. It ain’t Halle’s beauty that’s the root of her angst. It’s the crazy!!

The problem in Atlanta is people don’t want to DATE, they want to get married or be in a relationship.

Tazzee - On Cloud 9

August 17th, 2009
1:30 pm

I don’t know ‘why’…

On topic – I’ve heard the numbers too and like ARed said, I just always believed that there was ‘one’ out there for me and that was enough.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:30 pm

The problem in Atlanta is people don’t want to DATE, they want to get married or be in a relationship.

Ballwood – How does one get into a relationship or married without dating?

Dan

August 17th, 2009
1:31 pm

@Ballwood

Dang!!! (for the hate of the “curse word buffer”). That one there shot out like a .45 on a quiet night.

Good one

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
1:31 pm

“I don’t know comments like that still make me laugh…” – If you think it’s funny on the blog then you should see it in real life. Wait that didn’t come out right…..

“Not a meth lab” – Well there in lies the problem!

Grace

August 17th, 2009
1:33 pm

It’s a bar folks. Not a meth lab :lol: :lol: :lol:

Blow Me

August 17th, 2009
1:34 pm

BALLWOOD- Not only do they not date…But they want ALL THE PERKS of a relationship and sometimes marriage…Can you believe that….(insert eye rolling smiley here) lol!

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
1:34 pm

DK to your point….true story. I have a couple of friends where we’d hook up almost daily…lunch, outing, etc. One a male and the other, female. He’s sexy, not so much “pretty” but can hang a suite and yep has that swag thing going on. She’s gorgeous, simply beautiful. Half black half dominican, thick with it and into make-up and skimpy clothes. However she thought she was sooooo much beautiful than most of the chicks here but she was never competition for me. While there wasn’t a competition to be had, he had been and was ALWAYS attracted to me. I got it from the jump…..but from her expression when the two of us interacted during a threesome (as in lunch) or riding somewhere together….she ALWAYS carried a question mark and NEVER GOT IT. One day he asked me to ride with him and chatting about relationships our physical preferences, he asked me to define beautiful. I was a bit taken aback by the question but I named the 3rd friend….the thick with it chick. His response was, “I knew you’d say her. What about yourself? You’re a good looking girl and natural and sexy.” She even asked me about a year or so into becoming good friends why he always called me to set up lunch, why sometimes he didn’t include her and why he behaved differently with me than her….SHE NEVER GOT IT. I had a lot more going on than a big butt and a smile…okay that was corny but you get what I’m saying.

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
1:35 pm

“How does one get into a relationship or married without dating?” – I have no idea. That’s why I don’t understand these people crying about they don’t like to date. Maybe everyone should walk around with thought bubbles so it will be easier. Can you guess what my thought bubble says?

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
1:36 pm

Main: Beauty is only skin deep but crazy goes to the bone. It ain’t Halle’s beauty that’s the root of her angst. It’s the crazy!!

Ballwood yep, I get that too

Kym

August 17th, 2009
1:36 pm

@ARed one this is not about you. I know somedays you get your tail on your shoulders because you think it is about you but this is not about what you do or don’t do..it is about your suggestion on what Grace should do.

Grace has stated twice that she does not like the smell of cigar smoke and so that is not a place she would frequent. Why continue to drive home the point that just because it is a bar you don’t have to smoke? Grace is not concern with smoking a cigar..she does not like the smoke so she does not desire to be around it. The implication that I read is well you ask where to find a bunch of dudes in one location so this is what you will have to subject yourself too is what I am refering to. To suggest or imply that a person(woman) should go somewhere that would make them uncomfortable just to check out the action is high schoolish.

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i'm swiss (aka Buckshot Prior)

August 17th, 2009
1:38 pm

“That is why I mentioned the strip clubs.”

Alert — keyword match… are we talking about strip clubs? Well in that case… :lol:

Saturday was the bachelor party, and I was coerced into making an appearance at the Cheetah. I was pleasantly surprised on a couple of levels:

1) I clearly haven’t been to the Cheetah in a while, because the last time I was there I was sorely disappointed in the, um, variety of the dancers. Saturday, there was a very nice selection of girls in my favorite flavor… :lol:

2) From now on, anytime I go to a strip club, regardless of the occasion, I will be wearing all the ridiculous crap that my friends made me wear because I was the groom-to-be. That stuff plays in the club… :lol:

Le Siren

August 17th, 2009
1:39 pm

The prettiest chicks are the most insecure. Beyonce dont do it for me.. I get cussed out cause I think Kelly is the one I would date. Kelly is naturally sexy and not manufactored sexy.

Do most men think attractive women are more insecure than other women? If so, why?

Dan

August 17th, 2009
1:39 pm

@Blow

Who is “they”? Men in general, or the guys you’ve dated?

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
1:40 pm

ALL THE PERKS??? Please explain these perks you speak of….

Main: Do you realized you used 3-way and ride in the same sentence? Sickm Melo.

i'm swiss (aka Buckshot Prior)

August 17th, 2009
1:41 pm

“That is why I mentioned the strip clubs.”

Alert — keyword match… are we talking about strip clubs? Well in that case… :lol:

Saturday was the bachelor party, and I was coerced into making an appearance at the Cheetah. I was pleasantly surprised on a couple of levels:

1) I clearly haven’t been to the Cheetah in a while, because the last time I was there I was sorely disappointed in the, um, variety of the dancers. Saturday, there was a very nice selection of girls in my favorite flavor… :lol:

2) From now on, anytime I go to a strip club, regardless of the occasion, I will be wearing all the goofy/embarrassing crap that my friends made me wear because I was the groom-to-be. That stuff plays in the club… :lol:

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
1:41 pm

AR

How does one get into a relationship or married without dating?

Here is an example. it is easy in this time of internet dating sites. From what I understand, these site automatically split people up into group of what they are looking for. (Relationships, Dating, or anything kinky section). So, that takes part of it out of the mix right there. These sites were just getting started when I got out of the dating arena, but it sounds like the old phone line things.

Anyways, if a dude meets a female in the I want a relationship section of a sight, he knows that she is trying to settle down. It takes the “what are you looking for conversation” out of the mix and really can lead to some communication issues from the start.

We have secretary that is engaged to a dude from E-Harmony early this year. Her parents gave her a subscription to E-Harmony as a Christmas gift. The were paired in January, they met in March and got engaged in May. They only met in person in March. He lives in Chicago and she lives here. They met once in person and now they are engaged. There was no dating going on. Maybe some phone sex, but it is kinda hard to date someone and be numerous states away.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
1:42 pm

Back from lunch

LL – I hear what you saying, character is everything, upbringing, yada, yada, let a man lead, yada, yada. It’s just all been said so much before and been SHOVED down our throats by everybody writing a book, news column, hosts a talk show, etc. OF COURSE a man’s character should be the #1 thing on your list! What you said was common sense. What I was saying was that when you’re thinking about today’s topic, the numbers game in dating in ATL, the top reason to come in mind is not that a lot of men are raised by single mothers, thus they don’t know how to be a man! That’s all I was saying, kinda being facitous in a way actually!LOL!!

I’m SO FEELING Mamba though – yall need to go somewhere with this “LET a man be a man” stuff! No sorry dude I have ever come across was like that cause some woman wouldn’t LET him be something he was not. Either you ARE or you AREN’T! And you can’t keep using how you were raised as an excuse either!

Dan – I came at you about the compliments cause sometimes I think you debate stuff just for the sake of debating. I don’t think any woman would mind her man complimenting her 121 days out of the year, but if you got all the 121 in one evening that would be the issue! Me talking about that tv show & Today with her post were talking about extreme cases. You’re an intelligent dude, you knew that too.LOL!!!

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
1:42 pm

Do you realized you used 3-way and ride in the same sentence? Sickm Melo.

Ballwood Yep, stay with me dude…I wasn’t getting raunchy, I was making a point…but if you say so.

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
1:43 pm

Do most men think attractive women are more insecure than other women? If so, why? – Looks or no looks chicks are insecure by nature.

Who is “they”? Men in general, or the guys you’ve dated? – or Chicks?

You know my Sexy...AND my Cool...

August 17th, 2009
1:43 pm

Why this chick I know claims to have ‘changed this dude’s life’ just cause she got him a hook-up on a job?

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:44 pm

Kym – I wasn’t pushing her into anything. I don’t care if she sits in her house and picks her toenails each night.

I mentioned the cigar bar as a place where the men out number the women, and when she said that she doesn’t smoke, I CLARIFIED that smoking is not required, just like drinking isn’t required at a bar. When she then said she didn’t like the smell of smoke, I reminded her that I was not ordering her to go.

So yes, YOU read it wrong.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
1:45 pm

Le Siren

Do most men think attractive women are more insecure than other women? If so, why?

I can only answer of myself, but the answer is yes. Many attractive women are insecure because they start to wonder if dude only wants her for her looks, and if that is the case, then she begins to wonder if dude will leave her if someone more attractive comes along.

Dan

August 17th, 2009
1:46 pm

@Le Siren

Not always.

But like some women can be complimented too much (still smh about that), so ladies can’t receive enough. She needs to be told everyday that she’s beautiful, cute, etc.

Insecurities run standard across the “beauty” scale

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
1:47 pm

For the one head you do turn, be your best beautiful you, work on you FOR YOU…not to snag a man. Be confident, know when he’s worth the compromise and no matter how good/good looking, it’s not worth tolerating someone using jedi mind tricks. Relationships and love is not a life guarantee. Got to have more going on than that being your sole central focus.

Ms. Main Chica, you betta spit it! Loved that ^^^ there.

ON TOPIC

Thinking back to when I was a resident there, I must say its not something I put much focus on…nor do I put that much focus on it now (regarding the ratio). I will say, that I often got the “you’re not from around here, huh?” And the convo would go from there. And a good sense of humor and laid back personality didn’t hurt anything either. On looks…never been the type to spout off about this n’ that when it comes to my physique – really not my style and I’m really not a fan of those who do. However, any mature adult should already know, of course men are visual and having something (or rather someone) nice to stand back and admire, will possibly open the door, but it’s no guarantee that it will remain ajar…so one must have something else going on for him/herself. But I have been told that while it shows I’m confident, the fact that I’m humble about certain “attributes” speaks volumes. And I appreciated the compliment probably more than the ones that focused on more on the (external) visual.

Bottomline: I find it pointless worrying about such numbers from Tampa to Atlanta to Timbukto…so instead of putting so much emphasis on the quantity, I’m more prone to put more stock into retaining the only number that will truly matter at the end of the day —> One.

The Real Rell - benchs make my stomach hurt

August 17th, 2009
1:48 pm

@ms main…is that right….lol…do you have anything else to sell…lol

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
1:49 pm

Jamo What’s up chica? You know we share brain cells right?

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
1:49 pm

2E’s: I agree with you on that “let a man be man” BS. I don’t need anybody’s permission to be what I am. And I dayum sho ain’t asking no chick about something she has no clue about.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
1:51 pm

Kym

Where does she say that Grace HAS to go there. It was just a suggestion that was made before Grace even said that she hated smoke. It was just thrown out there. Then, Sexy asked the fellas if females going to cigar bars was desperate. Melo and I answered that it depends that if it was something that the female could not do and against her beliefs and such, then it was.

There was never a peer pressure push in this instance.

Darn, Steelers win the Super Bowl and now their fans think they don’t have to read the whole blog to get inferences. Geez!!

Just wait until the Raiders win. It may not be until 2020, but we will talk all kinds of ish when it happens again. :lol:

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
1:52 pm

But like some women can be complimented too much (still smh about that), some ladies can’t receive enough. She needs to be told everyday that she’s beautiful, cute, etc. Insecurities run standard across the “beauty” scale

Dan-

See you contradicted your SMH right there. There should be nothing wrong with a dude complimenting a woman 24/7 till it’s creepy, but a woman actually WANTING that is something wrong, somehow insecure. That’s what I was talking about earlier, no need to SMH!LOL!!

The Real Rell - benchs make my stomach hurt

August 17th, 2009
1:54 pm

@pg…i was thinking the same thing

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
1:54 pm

Rell Don’t hate…yeah, lol but not really. I told you…yep you, Rell before, if it’s scally wags you frequent then, yeah, it’s far fetched. Ain’t up for bolo batting today, just saying.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:55 pm

It was just a suggestion that was made before Grace even said that she hated smoke. It was just thrown out there. There was never a peer pressure push in this instance.

:idea: I mean, really.

Glad to see I’m not the one tripppin. Must be putting 20 on 10 monday!!!

Grace

August 17th, 2009
1:56 pm

I will not be going to a cigar bar, a pool hall or any of the likes because I don’t like the smell of smoke even if it’s a standing room of men, sorry I will have to pass. Ared suggested it, I appreciate her suggestion however I decline.

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
1:56 pm

Rell Oh, I can carry my own….in the looks department….just not one for bragging so, no not far fetched. If I don’t say boo to some of what you post (that’s about as nice as I can come), please bother show me the same courtesy….k?

anonymousella

August 17th, 2009
1:57 pm

i gave up on the dating scene here about 4 years ago. the ratios never really bugged me because what i want is rare anyway. once i realized that my odds of finding a compatible man in this city* are extremely low, i stopped the hunt.

finding an attractive, intelligent, heterosexual, college educated, employed, middle income+, child-free, never-married man who is my age (plus or minus 5 years) in this city is hard enough. but then i have the nerve to want him to be black, not a part of the judeo-christian-islamic religious tradition, and compatible? even if i compromise on the religious bit, that still leaves me with — what? — 2 dudes. and they both live across town.

thankfully, some cities attract more smarty-art and not-so-religious types; my plan is to move to one in a couple of years.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
1:57 pm

Suisse

Congrats on the Bachelor Party. I hope that you had fun, because that is its purpose.

clearly haven’t been to the Cheetah in a while, because the last time I was there I was sorely disappointed in the, um, variety of the dancers. Saturday, there was a very nice selection of girls in my favorite flavor…

I must agree with that statement. I went a few weeks back for a Bachelor Party and it looks like they got more variety. It was actually quite pleasant. It was early evening for us. 7-10 because it was just stop #1. But, it was just getting crowded as we left.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:57 pm

Just wait until the Raiders win. It may not be until 2020, but we will talk all kinds of ish when it happens again.

And hell yeah. :lol:

It will be like when the Red Sox finally won. Folks felt it was okay to finally die. Plugs were pulled all over Boston the next day. :lol:

Grace

August 17th, 2009
1:58 pm

PG a marriage proposal ater one face to face contact? that must’ve been a helluva contact! j/k

Dan

August 17th, 2009
1:59 pm

@Kimmie

I didn’t say compliment ANYone 24/7, that would be creepy. But accepting a compliment is akin to accepting a gift, sometimes it’s less about you getting the gift than the person wanting to give it.

Ex. If, as in my earlier post, a man complimented a woman 121 in a 365 day period, is that too much? For some ladies, yes; for some, no.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
1:59 pm

Grace – AGAIN no one was telling you to go to any of those places. You just mentioned never being to a place where the men outnumbered women. I NAMED one. No more no less.

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
1:59 pm

meant Timbuktu. Lol

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
1:59 pm

Suisse

One more thing…the recent trip there was my first since I went with my boss to meet some clients back in 2004.

Got deals done in the Cheetah….that was interesting.

The Real Rell - benchs make my stomach hurt

August 17th, 2009
2:00 pm

@ms main…?…why would i battle you…”why you bringing up ol ish” like you know me…..its a cute story so you got the eye of your co-worker great…but i still was taking a stab at your self promotion ova another female that you are clearly threaten by…but its cool..i see you come in with the party line and “hate on rell”…you benchs are funny…

Melo

August 17th, 2009
2:00 pm

His response was, “I knew you’d say her. What about yourself?

Ms Main,did u check with ur other lady friend or with guy friend if she hadnt been pricked with it yet.
I liked ur whole post altho on reflection,guy friend was proly doing his rounds too, coz ms eye candy was kinda flat when he sampled.
What say u???

:lol: :lol:

Kym

August 17th, 2009
2:03 pm

Darn, Steelers win the Super Bowl and now their fans think they don’t have to read the whole blog to get inferences. Geez!! <<<We are looking for a repeat trip too. Seven Super Bowl Titles..sounds..good.

Just wait until the Raiders win. It may not be until 2020, but we will talk all kinds of ish when it happens again. <<<<I think 2020 is pushing it. Now 2025 ya’ll could be in.

Let the record show I did not make any jokes yet about the Falcons today.

Le Siren

August 17th, 2009
2:03 pm

Poppa Grande and Dan

I don’t know if I agree with your assessment that attractive/beautiful women need more attention or compliments that their less attractive counterparts…I would think that the average/unattractive chick would be much more insecure with themselves. Wouldn’t they be the ones constantly on guard for their man checking out beautiful women? Wouldn’t they be the ones who are more likely to “mean mug” attractive women who show attention to their men?
Attractive women know they’re attractive, so there’s really no need for someone to have to tell them that on a daily basis.

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
2:04 pm

guy friend was proly doing his rounds too, coz ms eye candy was kinda flat when he sampled.
What say u???

Melo I don’t ever fully buy at face value….EVER Heck, he’s a man. My point was on sexy and beautiful being more than surface and really if you got it, it ain’t really something you need to promote. Exude would be better.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
2:04 pm

Grace

a marriage proposal ater one face to face contact? that must’ve been a helluva contact! j/k

Well, a few secretaries are genuinely worried about the whole situation. (I guess that with them being females they are privy to stuff that I’m not.)

It doesn’t seem natural.

Honestly, it sounds preteenager-ish to me. It is like the “Will you be my girlfriend? Circle Yes, No, or Maybe” Notes back in the day. But even then there was more inperson contact than this seems to be.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
2:05 pm

I never said you told me to go there, you were merely informating me …I responded….it’s not really that serious.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
2:05 pm

that should have been informing me…carry on!

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
2:06 pm

Le Siren

Wouldn’t they be the ones constantly on guard for their man checking out beautiful women? Wouldn’t they be the ones who are more likely to “mean mug” attractive women who show attention to their men?

I just think that it is a case of a female worrying about losing a dude the same way the she got him.

You know kinda like a female that gets a guy from his wife, but then worries that someone will get him the same way that she did.

You know my Sexy...AND my Cool...

August 17th, 2009
2:06 pm

PG – To the worried secretaries, I say, “Let grown people be grown and stay out of grown people’s business.”

Sometimes, ish is just too simple.

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
2:07 pm

Rell Dude, please….that’s Ms. B*tch to you. It never fails, if a chick ain’t in your amen corner, stroking your scorned ego, she disagrees or beg to differ, which in this case you jumped on my post, she’s a b*tch?! Riiight…if you say so.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
2:07 pm

Dan … sigh… that is what me & Today were talking about, the CREEPY stuff…sigh.. but okay!

Melo

August 17th, 2009
2:08 pm

Do most men think attractive women are more insecure than other women? If so, why?

ALL women are insecure,they wont admit it in ur face or call it insecurity.
If u dont believe it as a man,u just need to live with a female to appreciate it.
And i dont care how educated or independent u call urslef.
Thats why u men shld neva tell a female in public that her tatas dont line up nicely! :lol: :lol: :lol:

(this informercial is intened for men only..)

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:09 pm

Le SIren – They are also the ones who cant take it when someone doesnt think they are beautiful. Thats attitude is what makes the majority of them ugly. A beautiful chick cant handle when a dude treats them average because they have an inflated sense of themselves. My experience. I treat a woman like a woman no matter how she looks. She still has to sit down and pee, her breath stinks in the morning and she bleeds once a month..

Le Siren

August 17th, 2009
2:10 pm

Poppa

I just think that it is a case of a female worrying about losing a dude the same way the she got him.

That makes sense only if the women has nothing to offer EXCEPT

Le Siren

August 17th, 2009
2:10 pm

her looks…

Grace

August 17th, 2009
2:11 pm

PG – I’d be concerned too, just like friends don’t let friends drive drunk; friends don’t let friends marry a man she’s only met once!

Sexy- somethings do need intervention, just because you’re grown doesn’t always mean we make good decisions.

The Real Rell - benchs make my stomach hurt

August 17th, 2009
2:12 pm

@MS BY TCH….

if a chick ain’t in your amen corner, stroking your scorned ego

- HERE WE GO AGAIN…lol…i am not of that..and f u c k yo thoughts!!!!

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
2:13 pm

Melo is back in the house!

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
2:13 pm

“Let the record show I did not make any jokes yet about the Falcons today.” – Alright now Kym, I got my hand on your bra strap.

Congrats Swiss!!!

Anon: “finding an attractive, intelligent, heterosexual, college educated, employed, middle income+, child-free, never-married man who is my age (plus or minus 5 years) in this city is hard enough. but then i have the nerve to want him to be black, not a part of the judeo-christian-islamic religious tradition, and compatible?” – I got four friends that fit that description to a “T”.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
2:13 pm

DK – I’ve known some dudes who couldn’t take it when women were not falling all over them too! They were used to that kind of treatment whereever they went and could not handle being treated like the average human being that they were! Yeah, your ish stank just like everyone elses!LOL!!

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:14 pm

Le Siren – now of course there are those beauties that dont know how beautiful they are. Or the ones that want to be taken seriously that make sure they go overboard to be taken seriously.

The Real Rell - benchs make my stomach hurt

August 17th, 2009
2:14 pm

@swiss…are you marrying a sister?…wow…guess thats the game now…lol

where da white gurls..lol

You know my Sexy...AND my Cool...

August 17th, 2009
2:14 pm

But who says an intervention is necessary? She’s not robbing liquor stores to pay for a drug habit. She’s planning a wedding.

Don’t knock another person’s brand of happiness just because it does not subscribe to your beliefs.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
2:15 pm

it’s not really that serious.

It really isn’t. :D

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
2:15 pm

Ballwood likes it when Kimmie sigheses. Sigh again…..

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:15 pm

Kimmie – Ive seen that too.. Dudes that think I can pull any babe they want and when they cant get her they go into crisis mode..

Dan

August 17th, 2009
2:16 pm

@Le Siren

Her concern that men only want her for her looks (or the kiddy). She may feel as though no one “knows her” (a common refrain) or wants to get to know her for her.

Le Siren

August 17th, 2009
2:17 pm

DK

They are also the ones who cant take it when someone doesnt think they are beautiful. Thats attitude is what makes the majority of them ugly.

I just think that this way of thinking is a general stereotype of all very attractive women…you know the old “pretty women are ugly inside” song and dance. It’s almost as if people have to give them something to bring them down because they’re so “perfect” otherwise…
I know many women who are very attractive and also very nice people. Beautiful people are often stand-offish and aloof because they’re constantly being judged by others based on looks alone.

Dan

August 17th, 2009
2:19 pm

@DK

That 2:14 was right on. Mayne, those are the best women. That untapped confidence is a beautiful thing to watch blossom….

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
2:19 pm

IMO I don’t think insecurities discriminate…whether the woman’s attractive, average-decent looking or not.

On one end, an (insecure) attractive chick constantly worries how she looks through the eyes of others, needs constant reassurance, usually wears (IMO) too much damn makeup and goes a little overboard with other “embellishments” in order to bring about more attention to herself…regarding “something” she already possesses – (hence all those layers)

The (insecure) unattractive woman simply worries that she’s not enough so she overcompensates in an effort to balance out what “she” considers her own personal shortcomings.

It goes both ways. From those who are “pleasing to the eye” to those who are “sore on the eyes”. Don’t matta.

Shoot, in this day in age, it seems a lot more folks are self conscious and/or insecure with themselves. Heck, we have 80 year old elderly women walking around trying to look like they’re 40 somethin’ (IF A DAY! < — for you My2C’s) ;) Lol but n/r.

Folks please learn to work what you’ve got and go from there. Damn.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
2:19 pm

Ballwood – Siiiiiigggggghhhhhh!LOL!!

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
2:22 pm

DK – In college, I knew this dude who was nice, but was not my type at all and I’m not just talking looks. He pledged Kappa and thought somehow that would make him seem more attractive to me – it didn’t!LOL!! He just could not understand!LOL!

Grace

August 17th, 2009
2:24 pm

you don’t say Sexy

Le Siren

August 17th, 2009
2:24 pm

DK

“now of course there are those beauties that dont know how beautiful they are.”

Now how exactly does an adult woman go throughout her entire life NOT realizing that she’s beautiful? With the exception of the very late bloomers in life, beautiful women start hearing that they’re beautiful from age 5 on…in my opinion, its not possible to NOT know you’re good looking! lol

Beautiful Girl

August 17th, 2009
2:26 pm

I am told all the time how beautiful I am. And I appreciate the acknowledgement. I know what I look like, but people do not want to hear ME acknowledge my OWN beauty. As a result, I regularly downplay my looks.

Not because I don’t know “how beautiful I am” but because it’s not received well that I do.

Melo

August 17th, 2009
2:26 pm

She still has to sit down and pee, her breath stinks in the morning and she bleeds once a month..

u aint neva lie.

And im guessing u said that as a compliment to ALL females,right!!!
Thats nature at work,but say that same sentence to a female in their face,u be sorry. :lol:
Say,to a landscaper guy,in his face,that his hands are rough and his reply,”oh,coz im a landscaper, i use my hands most times”

Women are from Venus…its a tiny lil planet!! :lol: :lol:

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
2:27 pm

Chiming in on this “soft man” debate…my 2 cents

I know that many/most here may disagree with this, but to me the strongest men I know are the ones who ARE willing to be vulnerable or show vulnerability, who aren’t afraid of reversing roles to some degree. I have no problem whatsoever opening up to a woman, fixing dinner once in awhile, being romantic, helping clean, letting her get on top, whatever. Why? Because I’ve walked a “bunch of rough miles”, lived a long dayum time relying on ME, don’t owe anyone for what I have or do but myself, and “been rode hard and put up wet” a bunch. I’ve paid the price and have the scars to have earned the right to be whatever the hellz I want to be, and consequently could not care less if someone else thinks that is weak.

To me the “chest beating male” is usually mostly full of ish and usually if you scratch the surface, has an inferiority complex a mile wide, thus having the need to show how tough he supposedly is. The bravest men I have known (and I have known them through wars and tough neighborhoods) did not have to act tough, you could tell it just watching the confidence with which they walked.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
2:29 pm

Well, I am just ALL THAT and I KNOW I look good cause I tell myself that EVERY DAY! In fact, some days I creep MYSELF out with the excessive compliments!

LMAO!!!!

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:29 pm

Le Siren – Theyre so “perfect” otherwise.. Ok I get that you were joking, right?

Ok I guess I get it but can I just say youre reading kinda rough right now. Like you are one of those I think my ish dont stank chicks.. I’ll say this.. I dont care that you may think youre cute.. I’ll come to your house, use the bathroom and stink up the joint just as I would if I were at home.. Now what!

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
2:32 pm

…now pulling one of Cee’s numbers… Cee Alright, sis you’ve been on leave long enough and don’t blame it on Lil’ G. That lil boy-chile’ ain’t dun nuthin’ to you. LOL Gal, where you at?!

Jamoca now handing Ms. Main a drink and showing her the way to a nice spot reserved just for her “in the cut”. And to answer your previous, yes ma’am we sure do…and a few others I might add. :) Now, c’mone nah… You (we) already know as tempting as it may sometimes seem, it really ain’t worth it.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
2:32 pm

Randy – I don’t disagree with you – what you described is a man that is sure of himself, confident in his manhood! That’s always gonna be attractive any day of the week! In fact, you just described my SO! I would not have it any other way!

Le Siren

August 17th, 2009
2:33 pm

“I am told all the time how beautiful I am. And I appreciate the acknowledgement. I know what I look like, but people do not want to hear ME acknowledge my OWN beauty. As a result, I regularly downplay my looks. Not because I don’t know “how beautiful I am” but because it’s not received well that I do.”

This is exactly what I’m talking about. Beautiful women know they’re beautiful. How can you not know something that’s reinforced to you on a daily basis?

i'm swiss (aka Buckshot Prior)

August 17th, 2009
2:34 pm

Thanks, PG & Ballwood. A good time was had by all, no doubt. And I’m telling you, much to my surprise, the goofy groom-to-be paraphernalia is as effective as $$ in bringing the girls over to the table, but much more economical… :lol: The handcuffs, in particular, came in quite handy…

Rell — Yup, I am indeed. I’ve got nothing against white women, though — I just personally think the sisters are waaaaay hotter:-D

Dan

August 17th, 2009
2:34 pm

@Randy

I agree with that entire 2:27.

@BG/ Le Siren

There are women that, for whatever reason (usually a man/men) that have an adverse sense of their own beauty, and indeed their own self worth.

That, Le Siren, you cannot understand how that could happen, consider yourself fortunate.

@BG – humility is a beautiful thing, but playing down yourself becuase of how other’s perceive you is not fair to you. It’s a thin line between confidence and cocky. Walk it well sister.

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
2:36 pm

Re the “insecure women”…I thought they all were LOL. Seriously, the most insecure women I’ve encountered usually have been the really “hot” ones who flaunted their looks. One could speculate that they know deep down that those looks can be gone when they wake up the next morning and they are always acutely aware that those knockout looks are only temporary. I think there are some women who do not know how pretty they are, mostly because they did not develop as quickly as others in high school and got overlooked. Those are the kind I personally am drawn to.

Melo

August 17th, 2009
2:36 pm

I know what I look like, but people do not want to hear ME acknowledge my OWN beauty

so we meet and i say, “oh,u beautiful” u say what?? fckk u??!!
just to down play it??
Is that it??

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:36 pm

Le Siren – Some chicks dont think they are pretty at all.. Insecurities or whatever. They are 10’s but think they are 5’s. Or I guess its no big deal to them and they are just being.. I dont know.

Le Siren

August 17th, 2009
2:39 pm

DK-Like you are one of those I think my ish dont stank chicks.. I’ll say this.. I dont care that you may think youre cute.. I’ll come to your house, use the bathroom and stink up the joint just as I would if I were at home.. Now what!

You’re stupid! LOL I never said that I thought I was “too good” or anything like that…I never even acknowledged my own beauty in prior posts. I was simply stating facts…and you just proved my point. Attractive people get almost equal amounts of compliments and hate from others!

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
2:39 pm

Loved that entire post Nicholas.

I’ve paid the price and have the scars to have earned the right to be whatever the hellz I want to be, and consequently could not care less if someone else thinks that is weak. Why do I see (picture) your face turning red with a little heavy breathing. LOL j/k Good post tho!

To me the “chest beating male” is usually mostly full of ish and usually if you scratch the surface, has an inferiority complex a mile wide, thus having the need to show how tough he supposedly is. The bravest men I have known (and I have known them through wars and tough neighborhoods) did not have to act tough, you could tell it just watching the confidence with which they walked. <— Less talkin’ cuz he’s too busy walkin’. Loved that one too!

Beautiful Girl

August 17th, 2009
2:39 pm

I also meet a lot of men who feel as if they have to “take me down a peg or two” just because I look like I do and who don’t believe that I’m not caught up in my looks.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
2:40 pm

Well, I am just ALL THAT and I KNOW I look good cause I tell myself that EVERY DAY! In fact, some days I creep MYSELF out with the excessive compliments!

LMAO!!!!

:lol: ;)

Is it bad if you’re so hot you can turn yourself on? :lol:

"Longtime Lurker"

August 17th, 2009
2:40 pm

@Kimmie…If common sense was so common, we would not have a reason to blog on a blog called “Misadventures in Dating” !!!

It has been proven time and time again that folks will not use common sense when it comes to anything, much less dating!

If more folks would just slow down and quit looking at the “shine” in a person and investigate what they can’t see, before making a move, more folks would not be on the sidelines licking their scars after a free fall! I even read the mistakes before they happen on this blog! People in general have the wrong approach to dating and this is why so many folks go through the stuff that is unnecessary and we spend waaaaay too much time talking about insignificant people, who won’t do right regardless!

I am not an expert in dating by all means, but I do try to take a slow approach to dating and ask many questions upfront observe and investigate before I commit to being involved with someone!

It took me years to understand that I did not have to try to screw every woman I met in the first 5 days and it was better to have 20 women who I had never been with, who were in my corner vs. 20 women I have slept with!

I have great relations with women to this day, who respect me for “not” being like the norm of men they meet and they also feel as though they can be comfortable around me, without me having a motive! This has proven to be a great reference point for me, when it comes to meeting more quality based women vs. just meeting women in general, because popular opinion goes a lot further with people when they don’t know you (translation for the slow folks – people talk and circles are very small. A woman will listen to another woman when a reference check is needed, saying that you are a great guy, with no motives).

I think we need to get back to the basics of dating and get to know each other first, and then go from there vs. everybody trying to find someone who can improve their bottom line! Atlanta has become a Mecca for folks fronting like they got it going on and nobody is honest anymore with themselves or anyone they come in contact with.

With all of that said, it’s like navigating through a land mine and if you move in the wrong direction, well you know what happens!

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
2:40 pm

I also meet a lot of men who feel as if they have to “take me down a peg or two” just because I look like I do and who don’t believe that I’m not caught up in my looks.

:shock:

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
2:42 pm

Rell, pees sitting down First thing first, learn to disagree without emotions. I’m a woman, if I do, I’m entitled…lol

Seriously dude, when I post, most times (not all) I just comment. I don’t address any one specific person because it’s a blog. I don’t care enough really whether or not any one said person agrees. If not, no biggie, my thougtts are still my thoughts. If so, good…we can share dialog. I’m not here to make friends, hook-up or hang out…not that deep for me. I like to read here because frankly I like reading (and laughing) at the thoughts of others. Sometimes I quietly agree, sometimes I think “great post.” Over all dude, I REALLY DON’T CARE. If I post and no response? Guess what, no love lost. If I address specifically? Again, no love loss. It’s a blog. I post VERY general but truthfully cause the in-depth details of my life are just that…mine. There are plenty posts that I read, that are not my experience…doesn’t make them not be true. When insinuations are hurled at me (such as I must be insecure), I NEVER respond to those type cause guess what? Why would I dignify that when you don’t know me. Now as far as the screen, try to be a bit more of a man when posting and not curse at the ladies on this blog.

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
2:43 pm

Hi Kimmie…you hit it on the head, but you worded it better, …”sure of himself, confident in his manhood”. Congrats on your SO…to me, that is what women should be looking for, IMHO.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
2:44 pm

If more folks would just

LL – Sign…..

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:45 pm

Le Siren – I knew a babe in college that was a super attractive but homely. I used to mess with her and tell her to take her glasses off for me and she’d just blish. I mean if she was on Top Model she could win. Fast forward 10 years later. Settled into her career and shook the big glasses and got the wardrobe straight. She is that DEAL.. However she still acts the same way she acted when she was in college beause she just doesnt understand what all the hoopla is about. Dudes breaking they necks bout to get in a wreck about this chick..

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
2:46 pm

How can you not know something that’s reinforced to you on a daily basis?

Le Siren – There will always be folks in the minority that will tell you otherwise. And sometime, depending on who the messenger is, you can start to believe it. That’s supposedly what happened to Michael Jackson.

That’s why self-esteem is so important.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
2:47 pm

Amred – LMAO!!! You know I gotta clown! Can’t take this stuff too serious!

I think a lot of dudes who complain about pretty women being insecure & not good in bed, yada yada,….. are just a little perturbed because these are the same girls that would never give THEM the time of day! Put someone else down to build yourself up… sad!

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

August 17th, 2009
2:48 pm

Hey Jam LOL “Why do I see (picture) your face turning red with a little heavy breathing. LOL j/k Good post tho!”

Yeah, guess I got a little carried away :-) .

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:49 pm

Le Siren – I was just joking.. But I would come to your house and blow the joint up and ask you to pass me some tissue even thouog I got some so you can get a good whiff…. :-P

Blow Me

August 17th, 2009
2:49 pm

Dan- Men in general. You included. You want the perks of owning a house…but only got enough cash or funds for a night stay @ the budget inn. LOL…

Melo

August 17th, 2009
2:49 pm

It took me years to understand that I did not have to try to screw every woman I met in the first 5 days……hahaha :lol: …..I have great relations with women to this day, who respect me for “not” being like the norm of men they meet and they also feel as though they can be comfortable around me, without me having a motive!

U settled now on one chic LL,if not why??

i agree with ur post above altho i know that being easy going and appearing like ur dyckk aint on ur forehead is actually a “good” way to fool them to think u the good guy.
Say, “it aint so”!

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
2:49 pm

Amred – LMAO!!! You know I gotta clown! Can’t take this stuff too serious!

kimmie – Exactly. :lol:

Though I do think pretty people don’t have to work as hard tho.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
2:51 pm

:lol: The ladies are going hard today. :lol:

Dan

August 17th, 2009
2:51 pm

@BG

Needless to say, those are the insecure lames running around that ladies choose and then equate them to the larger male specie. How fair is that (asked while knowing dudes do the same things)?

"Longtime Lurker"

August 17th, 2009
2:52 pm

@AmazonRed™ is you are meeting alot of men who feel they need to take you down a peg, because of your looks, then you might need to change the circles and social options you roll in! Confident men will accept you for who you are regardless!

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
2:53 pm

Le Siren

That makes sense only if the women has nothing to offer EXCEPT

Not necessarily true.

If he views her only as a trophy wife, she is bound to know. The thing about dudes that go for trophy wives, is that they tend to look for more trophies. If that is the case, what she has to offer other than her looks might not matter at all.

SexyC
To the worried secretaries, I say, “Let grown people be grown and stay out of grown people’s business.”

From what I’m getting from the worried secretaries, is that they may be worried about her safety more than anything. I don’t know why, which is why I said that they are privy to information that I am not.

"Longtime Lurker"

August 17th, 2009
2:53 pm

Sorry for the typo in my last post, but you get my point!

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:54 pm

Blow Me – Thats why you got funds, so you wont have to come at a dude about no money.. Cause I can tell youze one of dem dare Independent womens.

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
2:54 pm

I was told this past weekend that I was very sexy in college, I just didn’t know it nor did I act like I was. Too me that was a good thing. I knew it then just like I know it now. Confidence at its best!

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
2:55 pm

Or I guess its no big deal to them and they are just being… This here is what I can honestly relate to. Why trump the issue on something that depreciates throughout the years when gravity WILL eventually take place.

I have a male acquaintance who works out all of the time…like 3x’s a day. While I admire the self discipline, but it’s evident he’s terrified of getting man boobs and a “booty do”. And he’s not a bad looking brutha, very nice looking as a matter of fact. But it’s clear he’s self conscious about his appearance…or rather in the years to come. As if he can do anything about aging.

We are all aging…will get old and die. That’s reality.

So with that being said, a lot of men have insecurities about there appearance like some women. Heyal, I’ll go so far to say that most people who are honest with themselves are self conscious about something…especially the well endowed. They have appearances to keep up (so some of them feel) and have been told (validated) by the masses most of their lives. So is it to be plainly stated: If no one (read: the masses) has ever told you (read: complimented) that you’re a looker, is it to be taken as “the whole truth and nuthin’ but…?” Wow.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
2:55 pm

@AmazonRed™ is you are meeting alot of men who feel they need to take you down a peg, because of your looks, then you might need to change the circles and social options you roll in! Confident men will accept you for who you are regardless!

Longtime Lurker – I didn’t say such a thing. I was responding to a post left by someone else. Please pay attention. :D

You know my Sexy AND my Cool.

August 17th, 2009
2:55 pm

PG – Now THAT is a horse of a different color.

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
2:56 pm

Leggs – OK Ok well I stand corrected..

Grace

August 17th, 2009
2:57 pm

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
2:57 pm

Le Siren

I know many women who are very attractive and also very nice people.

Sure. However, you don’t know what they are like as mates unless you date these women.

"Longtime Lurker"

August 17th, 2009
2:58 pm

@AmazonRed™ Sorry if I misquoted you, my comment applies to anyone who previously made the remark!

Dan

August 17th, 2009
2:58 pm

@Blow

We all can keep sayin the same thing over and over. At some point, it’s not “them” it’s you (not you personally).

I’ve addressed that issue in my life (still working on it), but to constantly blame your hurt on someone else reads like a victim. And that’s unfair to real victims of the game.

Stated: I may only have money for the budget inn, and that’s fine. But my drive is to be there (for as long as I can afford it) and get something better. Thereby taking the onus on me to DO better, if only for myself. I don’t blame anyone else for my circumstances and I work and pray to do better about it.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
3:01 pm

I just didn’t know it nor did I act like I was.

Nobody wants to appear conceited.

Amred – Oh studies have been done that prove they have it easier in almost every walk of life. They did this story on 20/20 one time with these little kids and how they responded to a pretty teacher vs a not-so pretty teacher. They automatically assumed the pretty teacher was nicer even though they were just shown a picture of her. They sent two people out with equal qualifications but one was pretty, one not-so. Guess which one got the job offer every time and at a higher salary? They also sent a guy out who had less qualifications but was more attractive than the other more qualified dude. Same results!

Chink

August 17th, 2009
3:01 pm

Low self-esteem can affect anyone regardless of looks. Accept yourself for who you are and you should be able to accept others ..starts with you first.

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
3:04 pm

kimmie – I saw that 20/20 special. It was wild.

Grace

August 17th, 2009
3:04 pm

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
3:05 pm

Seriously everyone is beautiful in their own way. You just have to know what makes you beautiful even if it isnt prescribed to by the masses. When you are happy with who you are everybody else will be also..

I got a patna bout 350lbs and the ladies love him because he’s good people, he keep his body clean and is just an all around cool cat.

He tells me all the time.. Man Im happy with me so who ever aint Piss on em. A chick gone get wit me and love rubbing on my belly.. Watch!

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:06 pm

Kym

I think 2020 is pushing it. Now 2025 ya’ll could be in.

Either way, ish is going down!!

Yeah, Falcons defense still a work in progress. Lost to the darn Detroit Lions in a game that the Falcons thought that they had won. They let the Falcons come back.

Rell

You did see the Vick interview? He admitted to not putting in the work that he should have while here in the Atlanta. That is what I’ve heard for years, especially during the Bye weeks. If I was a Falcons fan, I would feel betrayed because he didn’t give his best to me as a fan even though I would give him my support through it all.

I kinda felt sorry for him in that interview though. You can only apologize so much. For some those words still aren’t enough. You can’t change the past, but take full advantage of each day to make a better future.

Blow Me

August 17th, 2009
3:07 pm

Dan Relax…Please

The Real Rell - benchs make my stomach hurt

August 17th, 2009
3:07 pm

I did not have to try to screw every woman I met in the first 5 days and it was better to have 20 women who I had never been with, who were in my corner vs. 20 women I have slept with!

- the FRIEND ZONE suckes

@Ms main…get over it groupie..lol…

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:11 pm

AR

Is it bad if you’re so hot you can turn yourself on?

You have the issue, too?!?! :lol: :grin:

True Story: This morning Mrs. PG pinched my booty right as I started to brush my teeth. It kinda took me by surprised, and my toothbrush almost end going up my nose! :lol:

Apparently, she still thinks I’m hot. I guess I am a trophy husband. :razz:

Lord Velonese (Insert trendy Quote Here)

August 17th, 2009
3:12 pm

Joe wrote:
“It’s not quantity or ratio that’s important, it’s quality that counts, and the dating scene is lacking in that department. To me it just means we have more shallow, self-centered women to choose from.”

Preach it Joe!

And these whiney self centered women are fun/ makes my day to watch when they piss and stew about something they can’t have. I’d much rather they watch me or another successful man have the “life” they always desire, to them never getting it because I don’t believe in sharing with women. I say that because we all know they are going to “try” to steal it anyway.

WD wrote:
“I know that dating can be a numbers game, but does that actually have an impact on how we are meeting and dating one another?”

Not I says the cat!

WD wrote:
Do you even worry about the numbers or ratio of single people? Does it make us more competitive?

Nope, women out number men. Because of that I’ll let women worry about competition.

WD wrote:
What do you think about the dating options in (correction) America? Are they working for you or against you?

Being able to fly allot I have to say it’s not just Atl that sucks, any where you go women are still the gold-digging, out for just themselves in this place. We need love contracts before marriage or any type of commitment. (Praise Dave Chappelle) And no I don’t feel its working against me, Women just suck here.

WD wrote:
“Have you changed up your “type” because of the perceived ratio on the dating scene?”

I give American women a very rough time/nightmare because they deserve it.

Motto for the day kiddies: Yes, bad apples spoil it for everyone!

Tazzee - On Cloud 9

August 17th, 2009
3:12 pm

Preseason…Detroit was undefeated in the preseason last year…that’s all Imma say about that….well that and our defense needs some work

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
3:14 pm

Seriously everyone is beautiful in their own way.

DK – Truer words have not been spoken on this blog today!

That’s why we can’t put too much stock in this “numbers game” in ATL or anywhere else. There’s somebody out there for everyone IF they want someone, that’s my belief. Put your focus on being the best YOU you can be and quit paying attention to what other people say you “need” or “should” or “ought” to do!

SCool – To your response about PG’s coworker – a lot of folks can’t fathom the idea of someone traveling a different road to get to the same destination!

Melo

August 17th, 2009
3:14 pm

Oh studies have been done that prove they have it easier in almost every walk of life

how did Gwen Ifill land that job on pbs??

speaking of that, u dont see a lot of dour female anchors on tv…
that makes Barbara walters mighty lucky….unless if she were hotter when younger.

my babe,Dianne sawyer(in case u dont know) was hot in that skirt this morning.. :lol:

The Real Rell - benchs make my stomach hurt

August 17th, 2009
3:14 pm

@PG…i was going to ask you your thoughts on him…..and ocho…have you watched the training camp deal with the bengals….ocho is funny with that “child please”

but i already knew what it was with vick…he from HR…down there if you got any talent you getting a pass on er thing…i mean from school to law enforcement…then he went up to blacksburg and got a way with er thing again…i mean i know folks that went to school with him and said he was riding a lil too high….but i feel sorry for the brother cause it sucks to be betrayed by family or anyone for that matter..but he is focused and from the new reports it seems like everyone wanted him there…plus from the video looks like all his tools are still there..he just need the reps…what do you think

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
3:15 pm

You have the issue, too?!?!

PG – Why yes, yes I do. :lol: :D

Maybe I should stop walking around nekkid since mirrors are around. :lol:

:lol: @ the toothbrush almost going up your nose.

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
3:16 pm

You got it Kimmie!

Dan

August 17th, 2009
3:18 pm

@Blow

I’m good baby-girl. Calm as a hot day in Albany.

I was merely responding to your post, we cool (on my end).

@PG

How you gone blame the loss on the guys trying to make the team?

About Vick, I heard that during the season. Working in the Dome for 3 of his years on the team, I saw it too. But hey, he’s the qb and can win a game at any moment, so the team gave him deference.

As far as the interview, I thought the only real moment was we he started talking about “how a guy with a $135 million would be on the flip-side killing dogs?…” I’m like dude, you just now gitting that?

The Real Rell - CHILD PLEASE

August 17th, 2009
3:18 pm

Enter your comments here

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
3:18 pm

Leggs
I was told this past weekend that I was very sexy in college, I just didn’t know it nor did I act like I was. Too me that was a good thing. I knew it then just like I know it now. Confidence at its best!

Nothing wrong with hearing it….

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:20 pm

Rell

His passing skills looked very good for a guy that hasn’t played in two seasons. Really good. Tight spirals and zip on the ball. He actually hit people in stride.

Ocho Cinco

I have nothing against him (except that lame ESPN the magazine commerical with Philly Pitcher Cole Hammels j/k). I don’t ever hear anything bad about him. I think that he gets a bad rap. He doesn’t get in trouble with the law (on the Bengals that says alot), seems like a team player, and works in the community. He is the least of the Bengals (my old team) problems.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
3:22 pm

Melo – PBS says it all, sorry to stereotype! You turn to PBS when you want intelligence, not fluff. So looks don’t matter as much. And yes, Barbara Walters was quite pretty back in the day. I have her autobiography – you know I am a news junkie! And Diane Sawyer does wear some very nice suits that fit her well!

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
3:22 pm

Seriously everyone is beautiful in their own way. You just have to know what makes you beautiful even if it isnt prescribed to by the masses…

When you are happy with who you are everybody else will be also.. <— Now that’s a lie right there and you know it! Lol (but n/r)…we all know that regardless of how we feel or may think of ourselves…good or bad, everyone is not going to “digg us”. Some folks are truly allergic to positive energy and there’s nothing we can/or should feel obligated to do about that. Everything/person some of us come in contact with are not always a direct reflection of who we are, unless we decide to keep em around. But I just think it’s unrealistic to think everyone will fall in line with our “line” of thinking. I’ll go so far to say that I don’t feed that to my daughter…I’d be lying no doubt…she knows and I know it. I simply tell her to keep “truckin” either way, instead of seeking validation. What’s that gannie said?…”Baybeh, they talked about G’sus.”

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:23 pm

Dan

How you gone blame the loss on the guys trying to make the team?

Detroit’s scrubs were better than Atlanta’s scrubs enough said. :lol: :lol:

Seriously, though, I hope DJ Shockley does better than he did that game. He just got married a few weeks ago (end of June) and really has others depending on him.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:25 pm

Dan

” I’m like dude, you just now gitting that?

If it is true (I am giving him the benefit of the doubt) that it was an activity that was even accepted by the police in the area in which he was from, then it may have taken a minute for it to register.

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
3:29 pm

Jamoca – But if youre happy with yourself it doesnt matter if people like it or not.. Of course not everyone is gonna dig you and are gonna hate just because thats what they do, but at the end of the day as long as you are happy with you it doesnt matter..

The Real Rell - CHILD PLEASE

August 17th, 2009
3:29 pm

He actually hit people in stride.

- he has no choice…brown and samuels…demps…. = NO JOKE…he has to perform daily…i mean the eagles are a beast team….but dude is focus and he that swag back

Chink

August 17th, 2009
3:32 pm

But if youre happy with yourself it doesnt matter if people like it or not.. Of course not everyone is gonna dig you and are gonna hate just because thats what they do, but at the end of the day as long as you are happy with you it doesnt matter

EXACTLY!!

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
3:32 pm

But if youre happy with yourself it doesnt matter if people like it or not.. Of course not everyone is gonna dig you and are gonna hate just because thats what they do, but at the end of the day as long as you are happy with you it doesnt matter..

:idea:

Though co-signs that you’re the ish never hurt. :lol:

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
3:33 pm

But if youre happy with yourself it doesnt matter if people like it or not.. Of course not everyone is gonna dig you and are gonna hate just because thats what they do, but at the end of the day as long as you are happy with you it doesnt matter..

Infamous – That’s what I just said though… However, I was simply responding to the portion of “just be happy and everyone else will too…” <— now that portion was a bit off, simply because everyone else is just that and really don’t matter in the great scheme of things. But we’re pretty much on the the same page…

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:35 pm

Rell

According to some of the receivers, he still throws a little hard. He gotta work on the touch. You don’t always have to drill it in. That is something that can be fixed, though.

He really looks good. The wife and I wonder what will happen after the season in Philly. McNabb’s contract was not extended (he got a raise, but they did not add years). Most of Vick’s money is due in year two. So, we’ll see.

Melo

August 17th, 2009
3:35 pm

Poppa/Dan/Rell: seems like this dog thing is a staple in the south,thats why folks think Vick got a bad rap.Lots of stuff going on in suburban car garages,i hear!

my neighors’ 10 dghtertrying to tell me some, i said,”hush, dont tell me nothing” he from nuelleins in LA(IS my southern drawlcoming out good ther?!!) :o l:

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
3:36 pm

Jamoca – Yeah, piggybacking off of DK, that’s where being happy with yourself and being the best YOU comes in. You have the self-esteem to deal easily with the stuff that is inevitable, like knowing everyone is not going to buy what you are selling and still being okay at the end of the day. Not having to have constant reassurance in one form or another. You don’t have time to worry about what somebody else thinks of you or whether or not the “numbers” in ATL or anywhere else are in your FAVOR!

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
3:36 pm

Jamoca That’s what I just said though… However, I was simply responding to the portion of “just be happy and everyone else will too…”

I said it earlier too, until….

But yeah, it’s just reworded and recycled now….do you, what you like, who you like what works for you. The rest? Nada

You know my Sexy AND my Cool.

August 17th, 2009
3:39 pm

No, Melo, your southern drawl still has an African accent. *lol*

Ms. Main

August 17th, 2009
3:39 pm

like knowing everyone is not going to buy what you are selling and still being okay at the end of the day. Not having to have constant reassurance in one form or another. You don’t have time to worry about what somebody else thinks of you or whether or not the “numbers” in ATL or anywhere else are in your FAVOR!

Amen and Amen….where my seat is and remains

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:42 pm

Melo

It isn’t just a southern thing. It is more of a gambling/competition rush thing. There have been arrests all over. They have had people in North Dakota, South Dakota that have been busted for doing similar animal fighting rings.

Kym

August 17th, 2009
3:42 pm

Okay seriously, was there a new rule that we have to have one kidnapping and shooting per week or something. Dude last night takes his ex-girlfriend, high speed chase through the streets or Atlanta and then shoots her..now she is brain dead. Madness.

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
3:43 pm

Okay, now…DK & Kimmie is there a part of either one of my post where I said anything differently than what the two of you posted? Again, I clearly took issue with the ….”if you do blah, blah, blah….then everyone else will too.” MY point being the hell with everyone else.

I may think my ish is golden, but it does not guarantee that (your words) “everyone else will too…” nor should it. We should have confidence in ourselves regardless…not solely based on if I go and do this here….everyone else will do it/feel it/think it TOO.

How is it that what I’ve posted is being misinterpreted? On second thought…I don’t wanna know…I don’t even wanna know. It happens on here every other day.

i'm swiss (aka Buckshot Prior)

August 17th, 2009
3:43 pm

Totally off topic, but here’s an interesting article about how 90% of all money in circulation in the US contains traces of cocaine.

Swiss now thinking back to this weekend’s activities and wondering what percentage of money contains traces of azz… :lol:

THE INFAMOUS DK

August 17th, 2009
3:47 pm

Jamoca – Hey Boo.. What da Heezy? I think Im being misinterpreted.. But I dont even wanna know cause it happens on here everyday. ;-)

Melo

August 17th, 2009
3:47 pm

Kym,whats up with this A men violence on women??
Is it that hard to get good pudsy,seriously?? or its the economy making lame dudes more desperate coz they losing income as they get benched.

im like: shrugs,like Page,Ared and Beautiful :lol: :lol:

Cool,u wrong for that but im need u to teach me hw to finese the drawl.

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
3:48 pm

You don’t have time to worry about what somebody else thinks of you or whether or not the “numbers” in ATL or anywhere else are in your FAVOR!

Said this here ^^^ in my very first post too…and it had nuthin’ to do with Atl. Heck, I’m not even there (with good reason). Boy o’ boy… Jamoca now directing the “blog intervention counselors” to those who are truly in need. I’m good over here folks. Really. But thank you anyway…smh

Yeah, recycled indeed Ms. Main…

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:48 pm

Melo

I didn’t want to go down this road, but I think Vick gets a bad rap because he is a black QB. (Remember how hard Rush Limbaugh was on McNabb, and he had taken the Eagles to the playoffs for years)

As for Vick, being a Black QB in the south is controversial enough. Then throw in the work ethic, the illegal activity, and just the plain inhumane nature of the acts, it is a recipe for really bad rep.

It didn’t help that his actions left the team with Joey Harrington as the Falcons starting QB when he was suspended.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
3:54 pm

Suisse

I noticed that they didn’t mention that most American money has high traces of fecal particles on it. :shock:

It makes since if dudes put the wallets in the back pockets and farts…

Sad,but true

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
3:54 pm

Hey Infamous – Yeah, kind of reminiscent of the line from the movie Crash

I think we miss that touch so much, that we crash into each other, just so we can feel something.

Again, we’re good ya’ll…we’re good.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
3:56 pm

Jam – I just feel the need to preach a little today. Nothing wrong with your posts. I liked your post, as I usually do as a matter of fact!LOL!! All good!

I just have a problem with some earlier post others made about how “some folks think they are the ish and they really aren’t”, have overrated themselves, etc. “Ratings”, like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. In the next breath these same folks will say you have self-esteem issues! All crazy if you ask me!LOL!! Just venting a little!

Kym

August 17th, 2009
3:57 pm

Melo I don’t know but it’s crazy..every week..

Melo

August 17th, 2009
4:01 pm

I kinda think Lisa Wu and Ed hartwell will be hitting the news soon :arrow: divorce!
im feeling it..

Grace

August 17th, 2009
4:04 pm

Kym I read that article this morning, along with the one about the mother of 4 kids that was gunned down, it’s always a sad situation when rejection turns deadly.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
4:04 pm

Melo – You right, something going down.

Ballwood

August 17th, 2009
4:06 pm

AZZ + COCAINE + MONEY = DAYUM GOOD WEEKEND!!!

Kimmie: I think this will clear up your confusion on “overrating” and “self-esteem” – Zippppppppppp!!!!! Sigh then repeat

PG: I think Vick/Cobb is first round trade bate for Philly next year and Goodell needed Vick to go to a team that PETA was scarred of. I just can’t image PETA protesting outside of Philly games in Mid October. If they do they gon be one cold PETA.

Dan

August 17th, 2009
4:10 pm

@Swiss

90% number has been known since the late 80’s bruh, at least to those that know.

Melo

August 17th, 2009
4:10 pm

Poppa, i dont think its race, i think black athletes have a bad rep,in general whether its nfl or nba.
arent most of the white athletes coming outa poverty too??
why is that we brothers dont seem to be able to handle money??

im so proud of Chuck Smith tho,and u too Poppa!

Grace

August 17th, 2009
4:12 pm

Ballwood all this zippin something’s bout to get pinched! :lol:

Pretty Wings

August 17th, 2009
4:12 pm

Afternoon !!

Yea, the numbers game is a crock……………..for women anyway, by the time you eliminate the crazy’s, the baby momma’s (3) or more kids, the druggies, supa dupa freaks and the ones that ain’t feeling men at all, it’s not hard to get a quality date in the A! LoL

Have a great eve!

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
4:12 pm

Ballwood – No confusion here. For others, maybe. My thing is, who are YOU to decide that too many folks have overrated themselves. Not you personally, Ball, but other folks in general. See some people are real good at telling people what they OUGHT to do, how they SHOULD feel, what THEY are doing WRONG. My question is, who died & made you king or queen?

Nothing I lose sleep over though. Sigh….

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
4:13 pm

Kimmie (aka the blogs own Shirley Ceasar) – Yes, I’ve noticed you’ve been on a preachin’ spree. ‘Preciate you clarifying regarding “the others”….

But either way, folks not agreeing with everyone’s POV’s is quite alright. Band wagonin’ and head noddin’ to everyone’s post is not what we’re here for and would be such a bore. I stand firm on pretty much all that I post.

…otherwise go on and getcha vent on Shirley. ;)

Melo

August 17th, 2009
4:13 pm

hw did Page party go?? dang i missed that.
my blog friends with pics,plz send them to ur boy, takpat78@gmail.com

i hear uall handled ur liqor good! :lol:

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
4:14 pm

For Real/Ballwood:

I agree. Philly is a good team for him to get a fresh start. They are a strong organization.

I could care less about PETA. After all, weren’t they the one crying because Pres. Obama killed a fly during an interview. A FLY!! That tells you how far off base that they are.

It is good that the US Human Society is in his corner right now. I take more stock in them because they believe in being humane to humans as well as animals. PETA not so much.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
4:16 pm

Jamoca

Kimmie (aka the blogs own Shirley Ceasar)

Yeah, I was just waiting for Kimmie to start humming and singing “Hold My Mule”

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
4:16 pm

PG – Agree about PETA.

abc

August 17th, 2009
4:16 pm

Now, I’m not using paper money any more, only a debit card for me. Fecal matter?! “Yo money ain’t sheeot round here, mister!”

I think that article said that percentage of paper money in circulation that had measurable amounts of cocaine had increased by 20% or more in the past 2 years… I saw that somewhere in the news yesterday. They measure using some weird spectrometer, but the sample of US currency was only 236 bills. That doesn’t seem to be enough to be a reliable indication of anything, but I’m not a statistician.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
4:18 pm

Jam & PG – Weeelll! (Said in my best church drawl)!LOL!!

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
4:20 pm

Mom used to say money was one of the dirtiest things out there. I love it when I forget & leave a dollar in my pocket and wash the pants it was in. It comes out clean and Downey fresh!!LOL!!!

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
4:21 pm

Yeah, I was just waiting for Kimmie to start humming and singing “Hold My Mule”

PoppaG – I was waiting for her to bust out in the blog pulpit with “Don’t Drive Your Mama Away” LOL <— Loved that one btw.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
4:21 pm

abc

Now, I’m not using paper money any more, only a debit card for me. Fecal matter?! “Yo money ain’t sheeot round here, mister!”

That is why I watch the cashiers in some food places. I want to see if they wear gloves when they handle food. Otherwise, they can contaminate the food.

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
4:24 pm

Kimmie

:lol: :lol:

Jamoca

I’ve seen Shirley Caesar in a number of concerts. Most recently a couple of years ago after a Hawks game (go figure). I grew up on her songs.

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
4:25 pm

LOL @ abc “Yo money ain’t sheeot round here, mister!”

Melo

August 17th, 2009
4:30 pm

Now, I’m not using paper money any more, only a debit card for me

abc,that means ur identity has been sold and resold,stolen and resold so many times over.(lost count)
u got as many cookies out there as all of us.
(see, abc’s dislike for fecal matter has him admiting his footprint in cyber but lied about it to ared,a while back)

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
4:30 pm

I just have a problem with some earlier post others made about how “some folks think they are the ish and they really aren’t”, have overrated themselves, etc. “Ratings”, like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. In the next breath these same folks will say you have self-esteem issues! All crazy if you ask me!LOL!! Just venting a little!

kimmie – Very true. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. :lol:

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
4:33 pm

PoppaG – I did too, thanks to my grandmother. All those long drives to church with her to bible study, vacation bible school, choir rehersal, etc…. A fifteen minute drive to 34th Street seemed to take 45 minutes with her behind the wheel. And she’d be blastin’ it like some of the local dough boys in their shiny new whips. We’re sitting at the light on the corner of Nebraska and Floribraska Ave. Just blastin’! And she’d be clapping so doggone loud, windows down in all. LOL Times like that, is when I wished I let one of my cousins sit in the front. Bless her heart. LMAO. But yes, I love me some Shirley Ceasar. Beautiful woman and such a beautiful, soul shakin’ voice. You can almost “feel’ what she’s humming.

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
4:35 pm

ABC says comedian Steve Harvey is joining “Good Morning America” for reports on family and relationship topics.

Whatever you think about Steve Harvey & that book, looks like it’s become a gold mine for ole boy!

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
4:36 pm

I love Shirley Ceasar too, by the way!

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
4:37 pm

@Jamoca, guurrlll yous a youngin to be feeling all that through humming. Isa a scared of ya!

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
4:37 pm

kimmie – Good for Steve.

I was giving the :???: to him at first too, especially knowing his marital history. But listening to his show, his advice is on point. I can’t even front. Most of it is stuff your grandaddy and daddy told you coming up, but a whole lot of people didn’t have that!

Melo

August 17th, 2009
4:38 pm

Is steve harvey remarried?

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
4:41 pm

Jamoca

But yes, I love me some Shirley Ceasar. Beautiful woman and such a beautiful, soul shakin’ voice. You can almost “feel’ what she’s humming.

Ain’t that the truth.

BTW, I know that intersection. LOL. Well, all I can do is laugh. I know it all too well. I done seent some interesting things in that area of town. :lol:

kimmie-livin my life like it's golden!

August 17th, 2009
4:41 pm

Melo – Yes

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
4:42 pm

Leggs – Hahahaaaa….don’t be scurred nah. I wassah wonderin’ where you went off to! LOL. Some folks think I’ve been “blessed” with the gift, while others suspect I may be a witch. While quite a few say, I’m justa ‘ol soul, didn’t cha know? Lol

…exposed to too much, too soon. But it has it’s benefits. ;)

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
4:42 pm

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
4:45 pm

I haven’t listened to Steve in months, but good for him.

Melo

August 17th, 2009
4:49 pm

she beautiful!
no wonder hes singing! :lol:

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
4:51 pm

@Jamoca, it definitely has it’s benefits, but the witch part sounds good too (LOL). Hope no one comes looking for you to burn you at the stake. We’ve come a long way. I can post thinking about someone being a witch and no repercussions. Life is Good!

Seriously, you are an ole soul, thru and thru!

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
4:53 pm

PoppaG – I knew you would, hence the reason I made a point to mention that particular intersection…and yeah, I remember having to catch the bus when I was a teen. Folks automatically think you’re the biz, all because of the street/part of town. Did not matter that I was fully clothed. Traffic stoppin’, cars pulling over nonetheless. Hated it.

But the folks that we’re in the “industry”…looked a hot, stankin, mangy mess. Whew!…most of the time you’d try not to stare out of disbelief, but somethings you could not help but do a double take…just trying to figure out if they were a “he”…a “she” or and “it”. Smh

AmazonRed™ - I'm shy...

August 17th, 2009
4:53 pm

she beautiful!
no wonder hes singing!

:lol: ;)

I agree. But it also appears that she won’t let herself get walked over either.

Leggs

August 17th, 2009
4:57 pm

Goodnight everyone!

A man walks into a bar with a slab of asphalt under this arm and says: “A Beer please, and one for the road.”

Peace!

Jamoca - She "be" the light, when they're in the dark.

August 17th, 2009
5:02 pm

LOL @ Leggs. You and those jokes! One day I’ll give the right answer to those riddles. LOL Btw, how many popsicles did it take for you eat, in order for you to decide which one to post? ;) Got me wantin’ myself an Edy’s all natural coconut popsicle right now. Yum, yum, yum…

G’nite you all…

Poppa Grande

August 17th, 2009
5:08 pm

Jamoca

I saw one grown man riding on the handlebars of another grown man’s bicycle. It was a little different sight.

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