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The Ugly Truth

I watched the film The Ugly Truth in mild amusement, like I do most films about male-female dynamics. While the movie is meant to be entertaining, it kind of highlights a lot of what goes on with gender biases and social perceptions of men and women.

The male lead character basically describes men as the simple creatures who will do and say whatever it takes to bed a woman. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but it’s a romantic comedy.

It did make me look further into the notion that men and women can both be ethically ambiguous. I read somewhere that that socialists consider a component of “ambivalent sexism” in the theory of benevolent sexism: “Women compared to men, tend to have a superior moral sensibility”. They actually conducted studies and claim that “women have a superior moral and ethical fortitude as compared to men”. I don’t know about that one!

It lends itself to male vs. female battle but we already know we are different. What are your thoughts? Should we really give credibility to these kind of studies?

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AmazonRed™

August 10th, 2009
9:25 am

Maybe it’s just a case of the Mondays or maybe I just kicked it too hard this weekend…but HUH? What is this topic about? :lol:

I did go see the movie though and found it to be one of the funnier romantic comedies. This is one I think a guy would actually enjoy.

Happy Monday everyone!

Fulfilling Me

August 10th, 2009
9:32 am

Good Morning, All!

I haven’t seen the movie, but based off advertisements it seems to play off the typical male/female stereotype. In regards to the studies, I think they should be taken with a grain of salt.

Sidenote: Tried the california rolls at Strip..not too terrible, but I think I will try it at some of the places you all mentioned Friday. I will say the drink Bubble bath was my thing.

Dan

August 10th, 2009
9:35 am

Good morning,

I haven’t seen the movie (prolly won’t).

In relation to your question, WD, I think women do have a higher moral sensability than men (superior may be a step too far). Personally, I don’t find it to be a bad thing.

Having a higher moral sensability keeps some women off the pole (still the best topic title ever), from having children before their ready, and in general from participating in destructive behavior.

We men get the luxury of “being men”. We can do stupid things, chalk it up to testoterone and typically be excused for it without being viewed negatively.

“Should we give credibility to these studies?” We already do, there called “double standards”.

Just Sexy...Just Cool...

August 10th, 2009
9:46 am

Three Words Daily – Sunshines bring opportunities.

Kym

August 10th, 2009
9:46 am

Good Morning All,

I agree with Dan, the only credit these studies give is the double standard. Think about the subject of cheating(that one comes up once a week) or even sleeping around. Remember a week ago the sowing of wild oats..with guys its expected..if a woman does it(break out your Victorian hoopskirts.) It really is a timeless battle of the double standards. Women are to be soft and light, held in high regards(morally upright) while Men are expected to be hard and dark….(sorry I blanked out for a sec) and expected to screw up now and again.

The Real Rell - did not get pinkeye this weekend

August 10th, 2009
9:47 am

i might check out that movie with one of my ladie friends….i typically find myself in that role….like what can you tell me…or help me be the women that guys will like type of stuff…even on my off day i am still giving out that cold game…lol

Always Sexy...Forever Cool...

August 10th, 2009
9:49 am

Co-signing on the double standard of it all. But such is life. Deal with it and keep it moving.

Live your life to your standard. Dismiss all b.s. and stay up.

AmazonRed™

August 10th, 2009
9:50 am

(break out your Victorian hoopskirts.)

:lol:

The Real Rell - did not get pinkeye this weekend

August 10th, 2009
9:50 am

@dan

chalk it up to testoterone

so what happens when women hit that “chalk it up” zone..usually around 27-29 when they are nailing anything with two leggs…then they hit 30 and decide ok now its time for me to pack away my whorish ways and find a “good man”…lol….we men finally wake up say around 45 THEN we look for a “good woman”..lol

Demi

August 10th, 2009
9:51 am

“Should we give credibility to these studies?” We already do, there called “double standards”.

True.

“Women compared to men, tend to have a superior moral sensibility”.

Until Eve listened to that snake dude.

I am looking forward to a ‘male vs female’ battle with Wisdom, later today.

Demi

August 10th, 2009
9:54 am

Live your life to your standard. Dismiss all b.s. and “stay up”…

SexyCool…I will be good.

Page1908

August 10th, 2009
9:55 am

Page1908

August 10th, 2009
10:02 am

LOL @ getting pink eye. Ok, of course, I have no idea what that means, but I’m sure it’s not good. lmao

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:03 am

The male lead character basically describes men as the simple creatures who will do and say whatever it takes to bed a woman.

Why is that?…..not all do it fbut for the fools that do….why?

Live your life to your standard. Dismiss all b.s. and “stay up”…

Okaaay!?….couldn’t have said it any better.

Hey Demi,Sexy and Page :)

AmazonRed™

August 10th, 2009
10:03 am

Co-signing on the double standard of it all. But such is life. Deal with it and keep it moving.

Agreed. More importantly, recognize it and accept that’s just the way it goes.

Sure, you can buck the system and make your own rules, just don’t be surprised if you gain a rep you wish you could shake or a past that just won’t die.

abc

August 10th, 2009
10:03 am

Yall aren’t really going to support the misapprehension that the movie in question reflects the way people really are, are you? Come on. It’s just a movie.

In my personal experience, women do not have a higher moral or ethical sensibility. If anything, I’d say the opposite is true.

Page1908

August 10th, 2009
10:03 am

Hey Sassy! Girl, how are you doing???

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:04 am

I am looking forward to a ‘male vs female’ battle with Wisdom, later today.

Are you really?…..

The Real Rell - did not get pinkeye this weekend

August 10th, 2009
10:06 am

whats up sassy…lol

@page…look at knocked up…and you will see how you get pinkeye right way…lol

thanks again for the party folks..and it was nice to meet everybody…but if not for the pictures i would not be able to piece together everything…when i started drinking that colored sweet juice things got all types of fuzzy…lol

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:06 am

Girl, how are you doing???

I am fabulous…..had a GREAT weekend….how YOU doin’.

Mytwo where you at?…..

Raqi

August 10th, 2009
10:09 am

It is a well known common truth that double standards do exist. I am okay with that. I just get in where I fit in. And yes we women are held to a higher standard of morals and ethics than men are. But what can you do about it? Date like a man??? I think not. That doesn’t give you male status, it just gives you a bad look.

The ugly truth is they do it for the kitty. Or the possibility of obtaining it. Nearly everything a man does to get to a relationship, building a relationship and in the relationship, they do for the kitty. Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying men are not capable of performing duties out of love for their mate however the ugly truth is they do if for the kitty. Guys tend to be more active, giving and attentive to the relationships where the kitty is accessible.

Page1908

August 10th, 2009
10:16 am

Rell- Ok, I thought I saw Knocked Up, but I guess I need to see it again. The colored juice you had was Sangria, also known as Jesus Juice. lol

Sassy- I am great, thanks.

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:16 am

Raqi that 10:09 was soo on point…especially the last part.

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:18 am

The colored juice you had was Sangria, also known as Jesus Juice. lol

Page…..you goin’ down :)

Kym

August 10th, 2009
10:19 am

@abc Who are these women you know?

The Real Rell - did not get pinkeye this weekend

August 10th, 2009
10:19 am

@page…i know what sangria is love…where you think all the fruit went…in my cup…lol…i am talking about that sweet stuff that taste like puddy..i mean candy…lol

@raqi
standard of morals and ethics than men are

- do you think women are held to a higher standard to controll there sexuality…i mean if women were out here like men….we would have sevaeral…maury moments

but you are right we men do alot of things for that poo cee…that i cannot argue

Demi

August 10th, 2009
10:21 am

Guys tend to be more active, giving and attentive to the relationships where the kitty is accessible.

HELLLLLLLLLLZ YEAH!!!!

But how I am now…a strong foundation must be laid first

AmazonRed™

August 10th, 2009
10:22 am

The ugly truth is they do it for the kitty. Or the possibility of obtaining it.

:idea: Another thing that makes dating easier once you accept this.

Demi

August 10th, 2009
10:23 am

Are you really?…..

Sassy…yeah, Wisdom is getting betta in SF:IV.

Page1908

August 10th, 2009
10:24 am

LOL Ok Rell.

LOL Sassy. Girlllll u were bananas!

Demi

August 10th, 2009
10:24 am

Street Fighter IV…sorry.

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:26 am

Alright then Demi….hope all goes well with that…no really I do.

Dan

August 10th, 2009
10:27 am

@Rell

Come on man. That’s the classic “double standard” – she’s forgiven for her indescretions, he is not. But that’s the world we live in.

@SC

Right on!!

@abc

Glad to see somethings haven’t changed…..

@Raqi

What else is new?

Of course men FTW to git the kitty. The difference I feel as I get older are the tactics (lying/truth).

Demi

August 10th, 2009
10:28 am

And an A.Red BISHASLAP to the fools who brought bottom shelf VOKIA.

Y’all trying to kill a Demi

Sidelines aka Joyful One it was good meeting you and you got gangsta with the 1800, LOL!!

Always Sexy...Forever Cool...

August 10th, 2009
10:29 am

Some men will do/say anything for the cookie. Some women will do/say anything for that which they convince themselves is love.

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:29 am

Girlllll u were bananas!

Just enjoyed the company is all…..plus that sweet stuff Mytwo was making was “jammin’ on the one”…..

The Real Rell - did not get pinkeye this weekend

August 10th, 2009
10:31 am

plus that sweet stuff Mytwo was

-yep

Page1908

August 10th, 2009
10:31 am

LOL @ “jammin on the one”.

The Real Rell - did not get pinkeye this weekend

August 10th, 2009
10:32 am

convince themselves is love
- true

AmazonRed™

August 10th, 2009
10:32 am

And an A.Red BISHASLAP

*smh* :lol:

Demi

August 10th, 2009
10:33 am

In my personal experience, women do not have a higher moral or ethical sensibility. If anything, I’d say the opposite is true.

abc…mayne, stop speaking ill of your female co-workers, LOL.

Sassy…whatever, you’ll be right there…yelling girl power…knocking the controller out of my hand…so she can win, LOL

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:33 am

Some women will do/say anything for that which they convince themselves is love.

So true Sexy…..and when you play with some women’s emotions like that, that’s when cats start being on the news and stuff….anybody got any krazy glue?

Pretty Wings (My Sunshine Has Come)

August 10th, 2009
10:34 am

Good Morning all!

I have not seen the movie but to answer your question, I definitely think there are double standards that we live by and I agree with Dan we make these studies credible because we live them out.

For example, If a woman has an extensive dating history she either can’t keep a man or there is something wrong with her but, when a man does the same thing he is a player or deemed to be “The Man” women are rarely given the “luxury” of “working out” their life without it being percieved as a problem or having issues.

For Example: When women stray from their marriage they are 1) unhappy 2) confused 3)abused by or had issues with a parent, etc.

But when a man strays, he is 1)a scum bag 2) sex addict 3)doesn’t know a good thing when he has it.

Now, with that said, when a woman misbehaves she is 1)crazy 2)has anger issues 3) is not polished.

When a man misbehaves the ‘boys will be boys’ attitude prevails.

Women are usually expected to be the better parent, the better person and have a higher moral compass. What I find truly sad with women is(our lack of solidarity, when we promote these sterotypes against each other) Feel me on this, bottem line it’s not fair!! But it’s the world we live in.

Have a great day! :)

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:35 am

whatever, you’ll be right there…yelling girl power…knocking the controller out of my hand…so she can win,

Naturally, of course. :)

abc

August 10th, 2009
10:36 am

It’s just as stereotypical as men’s supposed total preoccupation with getting laid: chicks are catty, secretive, manipulative, mendacious, and will cheat in a heartbeat. 75-80% of AA babies born to unwed mothers last year doesn’t indicate a higher moral sensibility on their behalf, nor on behalf of their sperm donors.

To have to work for a woman is to have to deal with a lack of moral and ethical sensibility.

If you are lucky enough to have a woman of high moral and ethical sensibility, consider marriage! It illustrates a character that exceeds the stereotypical norm by a mile — it has to, in order for that to be true.

AmazonRed™

August 10th, 2009
10:37 am

Here we go… :lol:

Sassy Me....Black koffee no sugar....no creme :-)

August 10th, 2009
10:38 am

Alright then Pretty Wings….. Sassy putting a 10 dollar bill in the collection plate and passing it to the right.

Demi

August 10th, 2009
10:38 am

Kimmie…I had my first orgasm from eating cake…your Rum Cake was the bomb.

Awwwwwwwwwwww…SKEET SKEET SKEET!!!

Dan

August 10th, 2009
10:43 am

@abc

Side convo: I think what you’re speaking of is the “subjective morality” that we (male/female) all exhibit.

I’d like to say that I’ve met nothing but high moral character women, but that wouldn’t be true. Nor would it hold true for men. And neither would hold true enough to establish a percentage.

Situational ethics is more to the point, and using that knowledge certainly helps me seperate moral from immoral and square from down.

W8©

August 10th, 2009
10:46 am

The Ugly truth….men do a lot in life for the kitty..those women who tend to hold out longer sometimes (NOT ALL THE TIME) tend to be the one’s that guys respect more…like I said that’s not always the case..but sometimes it’s true

@ all I was waaay tired and a little off Saturday but I had a ball just the same..my homeboys and co-workers did also

@Rell- thanks for adding songs to the playlist…can’t wait till the next time
@Mo- What are you doing dancing and drinking like that..good girl gone bad
@Staceye- you momma is FIONE!!! Mrs Parker..Mrs Parker..I want toooooo……….u M!!!!!!
@Demi- aint nuttin but da devil make you bring that 1800
@Sassy-You are a dancing machine..dancing dancing dancing…dancing machineeeeeee
@My2- I saw you dancing after you finished making drinks..you are a perfectionist
@Kimmie- My Dawg!! Thanks for the cakes and the sangria…nobody knew I hid the sweet potato pie…lol.alll mine
@Clarissa- smooooooottttttthhhh
@Magnum- If I hear you say “Can I have your attention please, Shots on deck” ever again I am running the other way
@Page- You and James provided the funniest moment of the night to me..brought me to tears
@For Real- Stop laughing at me…lol