Morning All (back in ATL next week for a whole week, YESSS)

I would not do a prenup, but I would make sure that wills are in order protecting my children in case I kick the bucket first. Money means nothing if I am dead, but I want my children to get something besides screwed over.

As for an “infidelity clause”, that is what the door was invented for…and what the heck, let it hit you on the azz as you leave after all.

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Good Morning All,

I would not require a pre-nup and if I happen to marry(god the thought makes me itch) a guy if he has moolah and would like me to sign one I wouldn’t be pressed about it. But most likely I would question his motivation. If you are doing this to protect your business interest okay I can understand, but if you are doing this cause you don’t trust me ..then what the hell are we talking about getting married for?(there goes that itch again).

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I think that in some instances prenups are necessary, especially when it comes to the wealthy, (i.e. entertainers, pro athletes, and such). Because there are people who’s soul purpose is to marry a rich person, pretend to love them and eventually divorce them for half of their money(hence, the term “gold digger”). Personally though, I would have to agree with Lioness in that arranging such an agreement says to me that you are preparing an exit strategy , which I think says that you don’t have faith that the marriage will be til death do you part.

As far as an infidelity clause goes, that’s a definite No No. To me that’s saying “I DON’T TRUST YOU”. If that’s the case then why in the world are we getting married?

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Because there are people who’s soul purpose is to marry a rich person, pretend to love them and eventually divorce them for half of their money

And there are people who enter into marriages, like athletes and entertainers, who never plan to be faithful.

Why is protecting your money more important than protecting your vows? Either way, if you’re entering the marriage with intentions to not take your man to the cleaners or cheat on your woman, then signing a prenup should be no problem for either party…right?

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Why is protecting your money more important than protecting your vows?

PREACH!!!!!!!!

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While I was laying in the hospital Sunday I was thinking about “the dotted lines”, however the lines that I have autographed are not of prenuptial nature. They are more of the making me a part of his endeavors, taking on his responsibilities type of signings. It is all so that should anything happen to him I have full control of everything. Everything is mine. Even the debts.

As I was lying there and he was talking about something that he is trying to do and he was stating how it will be good for Elizabeth (not yet born) and I should blah, blah, blah, and I started to think about all the dotted lines I have signed on since we become a dynamic duo. Should, God forbid, something happened to lead him to an early departure will the assets that will come to us outweigh the debts that I have freely become part of? Will we be well off? Will we break even? Will we be underwater in debt? He is smart man and I know that he will never take on more responsibility than he is able to handle, nor will he put our financial future at risk intentionally, but with the way things are now you just never know. Anything can go awry.

When his mother died everything that was in her name was free and clear. All funds were liquid. But when his died passed there were a couple things that had to be taken care of, but it was still on the up side.

But you know I just love the way this man thinks and how he maneuvers. I have been broke and poor before so it will not be the end of the world if I have to take all of our present assets and his future life insurance proceeds and make good his life dreams. We will manage.

However don’t fool yourself, I not only hope to have him around for a very, very, very long time, but (man I tell you I hate even thinking about) should his life end earlier than desired I hope we have the security that he wishes and works hard every day for us to have.

Now on the topic…I gotz nothing ‘cause you are asking the unmarried.

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Money matters, but apparently not that much to me. Anytime I happen to read anything related to my astorological sign it specifically mentions this. My joie de vivre (ck sp) just ain’t rooted in it. So this would be a non-issue for me in theory. Cuz I’ve never been held to it in practice…but as long as the motivation didn’t seem like, cuz I know you’re about to wild out on me at any moment… And the cheating clause doesn’t immediately make me think “Trust Issues.” Makes me think “Insecurity Issues.” That would be far more concerning than a pre-nup.

SOCKEYE SALLY Sound like ya caught me sashaying my way down the hall yesterday? I was mindin’ my own business, and my hips have a mind of their own, so leave me lone! Hump day so I may get a lil MJB with it. You been spending lots of time w/ ol Anthony. His wife might get spicous bout that ‘all day Chanel scent’! Enjoy the breezies, chica.

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“Why is protecting your money more important than protecting your vows?”

Because, I have never seen anyone sign a contract for 6 years, 72 million dollars for saying “I do”. However, I have seen them sign one for being a pro athlete. Being cheated on does not entitle one to financial compensation. I’d even venture to say that if a female is considering marrying a pro athlete or entertainer, then they should ponder the fact that infidelity MAY come with the territory. Apparently, some of them will sacrifice faithfulness for a lavish lifestyle. But at the end of the day when they get tired of the cheating they are not entitled to his money, they have not thrown one ball nor blocked one shot. They have not recited a single line in a blockbuster movie nor spit a single bar on a platinum selling record.

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For richer for poorer, for better for worse, in sickness and in health, as long as you both shall live until death do you part….but my moeny is off limits if you ever have to go….need I say more? I’d be greatly offended if asked to sign a prenup. I think marriage is just that. So, if I enter the union and you already have kids do we keep that/them separated as well? I mean do I care for you and let you care for them? By most, it’s instantaneously (sp)package deal. Isn’t that a rule we live by. If I/him have kid(s) already, he’s/I’ve got to love the entire package right? Well so is the dough. With that being said, and I know most won’t do it nor will believe me when I say it….if the marriage is dissolved, me personally, I’d want child support if children were produced and I’d want alimony if my living went from sub-par to par based on the efforts of us both during the union but I ain’t trying to take you through hoops for what’s truthfully not mine nor did I earn. Folks are too busy being vendictive trying take all they can but if I didn’t bring come with it, it’s not mine to take upon exiting. Now, just like it would take trust to walk in (money) unguarded, it’s all relative (i.e. kids becoming both of ours, no infidelity clause)….and you just gonna have to trust me.

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Prenup – I will burn that bridge when and if I ever get to it.

Three Words Daily – Storms always pass.

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Morning all!

Raqi Are you ok? I hope the hospital visit wasn’t for something major. Maybe just a check-up… although I guess that wouldn’t be in the hospital Either way, I pray all is well with you and the baby.

On Topic – I’m not a fan of prenups. Depending on dude’s reasons I might sign one. In the past, I’ve said that if we have kids because he wanted them, I would want a prenup that said if we broke up – he takes the kids

I think the infidelity clause means that the pre-nup is null and void if the other person cheated. So all the athletes that get their wives to sign one – if they cheat then she still gets half. But I may be wrong.

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then they should ponder the fact that infidelity MAY come with the territory.

The a guy should take into account that gold diggers MAY come with the territory.

All that money is great, but it’s not getting you into heaven. It doesn’t matter if she never dribbled a ball. Taking on a wife means taking care of her and the family financially. Every rich man has the option to stay single. There are plenty of women willing to be a baby mama. Look at LeBron’s girl…

I’m just pointing out the double standard that protecting your money isn’t a sign of distrust, but expecting a person to be faithful is. Doesn’t make any sense.

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In the past, I’ve said that if we have kids because he wanted them, I would want a prenup that said if we broke up – he takes the kids

I like that!

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Honestly, I’d have no problem signing a prenup…esp since if it were the other way around and I had a lot to lose…be it a business or whatever I’ve worked long and hard for, I’d probably require my hubby-to-be sign one in return. Not saying that I don’t trust him, but let’s prepare for worst case scenarios here.

I know we’d all like to believe ALL marriages will/should be till death, but the reality remains that we’re still human. Anything’s possible and nothing is guaranteed…well we all know one exception to that rule of guarantees in life. I’ve seen/known several people who started out a certain way…sweet, loving, understanding, supportive, etc…but ended bitter all because someone or both felt as if they were entitled to more than what they were getting…even if it was a reasonable amount.

MissPeaches404 – A good example of an infidelity clause is …let’s say a man tells his wife she would have to sign an infidelity clause and in return she may say something along the lines of …”and in return you need to sign an IC, which will state that if you cheat on me, I get “x” amount of money in return…or for each offense.

Some prenups can get pretty petty too. You get the dog, I get the poolboy. You can’t gain any extra weight over 120lbs or that’ll be $500 or better or $100,00 of her seperate property…to barring a mother-in-law from sleepover visits, to controlling how much football her husband watches during the week. Some prenups are put in place not only in case of the demise of the marriage, but also the duration.

…and that’s just over the top, but interesting enough to make you wonder: “Why are we doing this again”? lol

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“The a guy should take into account that gold diggers MAY come with the territory”

That is exactly why he would require a prenup.

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Whats up with Lebron’s girl Amazon?

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Hey TwoLincolns and Tazzee, we are doing good. I went to my coworker’s wedding Saturday and ended up leaving early to go the hospital because of contractions. I spent Saturday evening and all of Sunday laying in a hospital bed having a CST. For reason she became a little stressed starting on Friday. I tell ya, at.ti.tude already.

When my son walked into the room Sunday he was so amazed that the weird noise he was hearing is the baby’s heartbeat, loud and clear. I guess he is now fully convinced that she is soon to arrive.

But I don’t want to get off topic. This is a good one. Thanks for thinking about me.

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@Jamoca–Those petty prenups that you wote about should be handled during the dating phase. I’d like to think that people would not be getting married if these things had not been discussed prior to making that decision, and to actually have to draw up an agreement for those types of things is absurd. They probably should not even be dating much less getting married. That’s just a matter of respecting each other’s wishes.

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Good morning. I understand the need to be protected, but since my tax bracket is no where up there w/the rich, no need for a prenup. Like Kym stated, “…if I happen to marry(god the thought makes me itch), UGGH, no prenup.

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Frankly, significant disagreement about a prenup — whether it’s necessary, what it says, etc. — is most likely indicative of issues that would break the marriage, anyway.

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Oh did somebody mention moderation? Must just be me… it’s maddening that a perfectly PG 13 post must go off to la-la land while others, like the frequent ones of my beloved buffoon seem to slip n slide thru ever so easily. Maybe I’ll start throwin a pudsy or two in just for the heck of it. Have a sunshiney day, y’all.

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I believe in signing on the dotted line….

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She doesn’t have any bargaining chips! What is she bringing to the table? Some Na Na? He can get that in every city the team or tour stops in.

Sure she does. She’s not cattle.

Obviously, she’s bringing something to the table enough for him to want to take the risk and MARRY HER. Remember, he doesn’t HAVE to get married at all. So if he decides to go there, she has rights too.

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Raqi – Glad to hear. Little girls can be so figgity! lol

DW – Exactly. Petty indeed.

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“So if he decides to go there, she has rights too.”

You’re right! She has the right to remain silent.

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**being cheating on does not entitle you to financial compensation**

it should! then folks would think twice.

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@Raqi, glad you’re doing better. Seems like you’re about to bring a little fiesty one into the world. Take heart, she’s very excited about seeing her mommy and daddy and big brothers.

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I ditto, tritto and fritto that sentiment on cheating and financial compensation!

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I’ve seen how devestating it can be when people don’t handle their business and prepare for a rainy day. Raqi’s 9:48 is an example of a real man, taking care of his family by taking care of business. That’s real love right there. That’s the thing I look for in a man. Sometimes it’s not how much money you make, but what you do with what you have. If you only have 2 pennies to rub together, save one of them and invest wisely. Have enough insurance to ensure your wife and children don’t end up on the street if you pass away. Make sure they have access to proper healthcare. Plan for your kids’ college educations should they choose to go. This is what truly being a man and taking care of the family is all about. And yes, the same concerns are there for the single parent. Look out for your kids should you pass before they are grown.

My mom used to tell me about some old-school men who would keep all of the family “business” to themselves and not share with the wife. They would not put together a will or do anything to ensure her comfort should they pass away. They would come up with some stupidity about not wanting her to spend the money on some other dude after they are gone! Still trying to control “things” from the grave! You would be surprised how prevalent that attitude is. The poor women would be devestated after the man died and didn’t know what to do.

I know this is a little off the subject of prenups, but it all comes into play when planning a future with someone. A man at least being concerned about prenup planning is handling his business – that’s the way I’ve begun to look at it. If he truly thought I was a gold-digger, I don’t think he’d date me, much less marry me. At least I hope he would be that smart.

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“it should! then folks would think twice”

“Okay…!!!”

And if she cheats on him, what does he get? He’s the one with the money!

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If you’d like to include a clause that penalizes financially one party, it should be equally applied to both parties in order to be fair. Would one speculate that a flat, fixed rate per indiscretion be applied, regardless of individual financial state of the parties involved? In order for a contract to have meaning, both parties need to have some skin in the game.

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@RAQI
mase got a brutha? giggle.

glad you feelin’ better.

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Adding to ABC’s comments, good intentions have a way of going out the window when attorneys are brought into the picture. For years after my divorce, I thought divorce attorneys might possibly be the lowest form of life on the planet. I suppose they have their place in the cosmic order of things, but the thought of benefitting, if not actually amplifying human misery, does not sound like a noble profession.

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and that’s sad.

How is that sad? Did you understand his point?

All he was saying is that different experiences with money yeild differnt viewpoints on it. That’s not sad, it’s reality. Someone whose always had money may be more careless with it than someone whose always had to work for it.

So how is that “sad?”

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And if she cheats on him, what does he get? He’s the one with the money!

He gets whatever he’s stipulated in the prenup. Maybe he gets to walkway free in clear. Because even if you divorce with a prenup, the wife is still entitled to a divorce settlement. Maybe his infidelity clause will void all of that.

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In order for a contract to have meaning, both parties need to have some skin in the game.

I completely agree. That’s why I don’t get this attitude that the woman has no rights just because the husband has more money.

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ARed–I really don’t believe that a woman doesn’t have any rights just because the man has more money. I sinced some hostility in one of your earlier posts so I was just plucking at your nerves. I’m sorry, but it was kind of fun at the time.

Anyway…

I actually do believe that being cheating on does not translate into hitting the jackpot. He should be able to take all the money that he earned before the marraige, at the end of the relationship regardless. She should be entitled to whatever the one-sided divorce laws say she’s entitled to, minus his previous earnings.

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I sinced some hostility in one of your earlier posts so I was just plucking at your nerves

You got that one wrong then bud. Sorry. I simply like a good debate.

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uh, yea. that’s my point.

So how is that “sad?”

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Melo No murders. LOL However I don’t love him today and hate the next.

Beautiful Yes he does, but ain’t Mason.

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@Randy

You better believe that in 92% of the cases, the “trophy wife” is out before the last check, if not immediately after.

It’s rare that they stay when the money is gone and he’s home all the time.

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I met this old school Southern white dude…traditional patriarchal male dominate type…he was married for 30 years or so before his divorce…he refused to let his wife work during their marriage…he felt that her earning an independent source of income would be an emasculating discredit against his manhood as it would make him look as if he could not adequately provide for his family…so at his behest, she was a stay at home wife and mother throughout their marriage…old dude managed to accummulate a substantial amount of wealth and assets…well, when all was said and done…she walked with everything he owned…safe for his clothes and drawers…he was left with nothing…all because he insisted that she remain financially dependent on him throughout the marriage…and 60 something is a hey-ale of a place to have to start allover again from scratch after years of working to have something…needless to say he was bitter and angry with his ex because he worked for and earned it all…but that one little caveat of not allowing her to work cost him everygthing when the marriage ended…gotta love AL divorce laws…lol…to bad he did not have the foresight to protect his interest with adequate stipulations.

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Kimmie, i quoted ur wrds not mine.Why say it if u dont mean it?

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where did you get that percentage?

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@Angie – what, what?

@C tha 1, even if you take the kids – its still about the money – alimoney/palimoney/monthly stipend.

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@angie – antedotal stories. I’ve heard of some women staying (some black, but mostly white) but very few.

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@DAN
your post is wack mayne! cause you know good and well that most men want their wives to be trophy wives. he looks good and wants his wife to look even betta.

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**even if you take the kids – its still about the money**

of course it is. and there’s even a law written about it. go figure!

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Honestly, I’m more concerned with him getting my money in the event of a divorce than me getting his.

C tha 1 I forgot to add that you get the kids but no child support

I was sick to my stomach when I learned that ex-spouses automatically get half of your retirement savings. A friend of mine went through a divorce and ever since he told me that, that’s all I think of when discussing marriage – am I ready to give a dude half of my 401(k)???

Well, that’s not ‘all’ I think of – but it comes to mind.

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Beautiful If you are referring to my percentage, I just looked and I was off a little. This is one article I found quickly.

“Kapono, then, wasn’t the least bit surprised when a representative of the NBA Players’ Association addressed the Raptors recently on matters of financial prudence. A statistic was cited during the meeting that startled some of the hoopsters. It was said that 60 per cent of retired NBA players go broke five years after their NBA paycheques stop arriving.

“How could that be?” said Jamario Moon, the Raptors rookie. “I don’t want to believe that stat.”

But that stat, used by the players’ association to get the attention of young millionaires, is thought to be an educated estimate.

“Sixty per cent is a ballpark. But we’ve seen a lot of guys who’ve really come into hard times five years after they leave the league,” said Roy Hinson, the former NBA forward who’s a representative for the players’ association. “The problems are, for a lot of guys, they have a lot of cars, they have multiple houses, they’re taking care of their parents. They’re taking care of a whole host of issues. And the cheques aren’t coming in anymore.”

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/299119

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ok, my definition of trophy wife is off a bit. my bad.

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Kimmie, im glad u explained rather than going sumersault to hammer and attack me like u did on ur previous.Uncalled for!
But my point is, u are using old school examples to justify why its important for the woman to be informed and potraying the woman(in those cases,they mostly stayed at home and knew nothing) coz if not,”the poor woman” will be “devestated”(sp) when hes gone,rather than the simple and basic fact that it just makes sense to have ur partner informed of whats happening with money,business,insuarance,that partnership at the shop etc.
Preparing for after death is good for wives as it is for husbands.

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LOL @ DW…and MyTwo – don’t you throw that out here!…but then again, whatever works! lol

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Face it, there are men who are only interested in a trophy wife…and most of them are gold diggers anyway…so it is a good match…lol…truly…men who desire a high maintenance wench and wenches who need a high rolling cat’s $$$$ to support it.

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@Slim

Yeen know, Coco was getting it in BEFORE she met Ice. That relationship was unequal on his behalf, but they cool with it.

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dw -If you simply like a good debate, you shouldn’t be wasting time trying to pluck someones nerves. You’d be able to stand on your argument.

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–Re: ImAPeach404 11:30am

My bad @Ctha1–didn’t mean to get you in a fire fight.

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No Beautiful, am not tying the “trophy wife” to his problems…just wondering if she stays when he is all that is left. Personally I think it is the guy’s fault for marrying a superficial beauty queen golddigger to have another ornament on his arm…just like the stupid financial decisions are his fault also.

I have seen so many movie stars, performers, “Mike Tysons” etc. that earned more than most of us can ever dream of, and lost it all because at the end of the day, they made stupid decisions…they somehow thought that the money would never end.

Who was it on this blog awhile back had an entire list of if you (fill in the blank), it is your own “middy fikkin” fault. He was spot on. Whether money or a golddigger, it is his own “middy fickin” fault.

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This whole awaiting moderation is wack. Randy T all divorce attorneys are not bad..Hell misery loves money. And I thought about it at one time. Now leaning toward labor, civil litigation, maybe family law.

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@RANDY
that was FOR REAL.

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I’ve always viewed pre-nups as preparation for failure. If you have average bread (i.e. less than a million in liquidity and assets), I don’t see the need. More often than not, the spouse you choose will have a similar financial position. The focus shouldn’t be on separately protecting what we have, it should be on combining our resources and building long term wealth. On the other hand, if there is a significant disparity in our monetary accomplishments, documented protection may be in order. I recommend getting married while you’re broke. Then it’s not an issue.

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@AMAZON
how is it sad? i have a lot of examples but one is:

a person in a relationship wanting to spend 3k on a cruise and the other wanting to spend the 3k on the taxes owed to irs. it’s sad that a person could be so stupid/careless/irresponsible with money. debts are priority.

another example:

a rapper having tons of jewelry and no real estate in his name.

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Melo I don’t see myself not working if I get married – what for? No kids are coming out of this womb. Additionally, I’ve NEVER dated a guy that made more money than me – so I can’t even envision that scenario you presented. I take that back, one guy did make more than me until I got promoted that year.

But all in all – I was joking with my post. As I’ve said many times before as it concerns marriage in general – I don’t look forward to it in general, not without a target. Meaning I don’t get all excited about getting married one day – a wonderful guy would have to come into my life to get me excited about marrying him one day. So when I have random conversations about marriage – those are the types of things that come to mind.

I do believe that the right man will conquer all those thoughts – but from the outside looking in, I don’t want a man getting half of mine if we divorce.

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Regarding “trophy wives” or “arm ornaments”, I have long held this theory, mostly from some stupid things I have done myself, thus the “t-shirts”, that an erection restricts the oxygen/blood supply to the brain. The thought process is then rerouted thru the “little head” causing major disruptions in good judgement. Just a theory.

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@dw that’s alright bruh, no extinguisher needed. Peach has a point. According to her 11:30 post that’s a woman willing to put in work to add to an already financially established man. Call me archaic and chauvanistic (sp), but I would hope a grown woman knows how to cook, clean house, and take care of the kids when its time. That woman has legitimately earned a “portion” of money in the unfortunate case of a divorce.

But if a woman plans to be apart of the $250,000+ tax bracket, and sit on her azz without providing a means of securing earned income then she isn’t entitled to much. Ultimately, if a dude has a million liquid and in assests, that’s good money. But I’m from the country…and what we call Long Bread is simply generational wealth. If you’re starting from the bottom it takes two people to generate and sustain it to get to the next level…not one person earning it while the other spends it.

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Additionally, I’ve NEVER dated a guy that made more money than me

OK

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@Angie

Why would HIS character come into play? or

If a bride were asking for a pre-nup, would HER character be in question?

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holy moly…any person who has valuable assets to protect should be able to do so…that is a common sense no brainer move to me…and any person who cares enough about the other person should respect and support their right to do so…the bride or the groom.

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Plead insanity by reason of erection

Randy why not ’cause yall have a tendency to say and do some crazy things to fulfill that moment.

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i don’t elaborate most of the time because i don’t feel the need.

and yes i did ms. smarty pants! paying for luxury before debt leads to a broken home. the blond on steve’s show is in for a rude awakening. living on a trust fund and not having anything besides a husband to support you to fall back on is crazy. she’s not spending her money wisely.

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The only reason that I would have a pre-nupt (I didn’t) was more for protection against the SO’s family. I’ve seen it happen that the female’s family was plotting. Heck, I don’t trust all of my family and show don’t trust all of hers. It is amazing what plans people come up have when OPM is involved.

OPM=Other People’s Money

As far as the choosing SO’s, I’d just have to be careful.

In reality, I had much of my stuff already tied up in money markets and other accounts before we met. Beneficiary of most of that stuff was and still is my nephew. The wife is an attorney so she had her own stuff as well.

Raqi

I was kinda worried about you, too, after mentioning contractions on Friday. I guess that the chica was just reminding you who was calling the shots.

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Beautiful- I don’t understand it either.. Why choose a woman to be yur wife YET you have to protect your assets from her.. Why get married if you have to safeguard yourself from the woman you are about to take vows to love til death do you part??? CONFUSED!

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**Then don’t complain when you think folks don’t understant you or misunderstand you**

that’s fair!

**If the blond on Steve’s show meets another trust fund kid**

that’s not likely. possible, but not likely to happen.

@CUTIE
this is why i believe i won’t sign one now. the truth is he doesn’t trust me. *sniff*

where’s TRUTH? i had a dream about you last week. it was a fun one from what i remember.

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@Lioness

You don’t protect yourself from the wife or the husband, the prenup protects the wife/husband from the anger and greed of the “ex”.

When angry, most people want some “git back” and money is one of the best ways to get it.

A pre-nup isn’t “you can’t have dot, dot, dot” in marriage, it’s for after that marriage is dissolved or fails. Then is you can have “dot, dot, dot” and I’ll keep the rest.

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@Beautiful

I do not know what planet you live on…but in the real deal world of today, ppl will manipulate and abuse antoher person for financial gain…it happens e’erday to somebody somewhere…and yes, it may be the spouse you need toprotect your assets from…divorce happesn for a reason…if every marriage was an indelible etched agrreement without out retraction, then maybe such a need for prenups would not exist…but ppl do not always make smart marriage choices…period…now, Scottie can beam you back up.

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Ared- LMAO!! I almost choked!

DW- I hear you! Sad but not always the case..

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A good afternoon bloggin Superstars!

This is a good topic due to what we are experiencing in a capitolistic society. Marriage is under attack due to financial difficulties.

I myself would not require a pre-nup, I believe it breaks the basic principle of what marriage is suppose to be for richer or poorer!

@Lioness… I was justing playing with you yesterday about the Johnson inspection!

@Tazzee are you a baller? If so I will sign that pre-nup and marry you!

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I’ve always considered pre-nupts to be like insurance. You pay auto insurance with the hopes that you don’t have to use it. The same goes for pre-nupts.

That’s exactly what I said this morning.

Because I’m a practical person, I get the point of a prenup. No they arent’ romantic, but neither is marriage all the time.

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if every marriage was an indelible etched agrreement without out retraction, then maybe such a need for prenups would not exist

It is. Folks have just abandoned the instition and the fact that it’s a union created by God and whether you walk or not or find you another, he’s holding you to the first one….as in til death due you part. Folks just “choose” to do otherwise…but um, yeah, it’s etched in stone.

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Scottie can beam you back up.

I’m so glad I wasn’t the one who said it. But

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DW- LMAO!!!

PG- True indeed!

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AR

That’s exactly what I said this morning.

Sorry. I didn’t pay attention to any particular person’s post.

I’m kinda half way reading the blog and half way studying criminal law and half way playing with our dog.

However, I’ll cosign the following:
they arent’ romantic, but neither is marriage all the time.

There is a business side to marriage, and I think that pre-nupts address that side of the union.
Marriages aren’t just religious. They have legal and secular implications as well. Why do you think that homosexuals are fighting so hard for the rights that come with them? It is the business stuff that they want. I’m sure that they can find a church in any state that would marry them (on a religious level), but the legal world still wouldn’t recognize it.

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**I’m so glad I wasn’t the one who said it**

you don’t have to say anything. it’s obvious in your post directed to me. i see it, they see it. we don’t agree on most things. get over it!

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@Beautiful

Baby, it would be a much more wonderful world if all we needed was trust in each other to co-exist…but that is not the real world…just an ideal desire…and yes, I more than anyone would love to live in a world were the face value of ppl and what they say and do reconciled themselves without question…but that is not the case…so as I choose for myself, I choose for all mankind…so I choose the protect the best interest of myself…and then by default, I also choose to protect the best interests of others…I may not control how the world operates, but I can control me in it…and, btw…you do have your right to your POV…even if I do not agree.

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Dan “folks” have been getting divorces for centuries.

There’s a butt load of stuff folks do and shouldn’t but the ink has dried and just because I or anyone else choose to do something “other than”….doesn’t change the fact that it stands…that’s a subject for another day though….LOL

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follow up comment: even if you *don’t* have any money / property at the time of marriage, a prenup can also specify how accumulated assets will be divided upon divorce and even how you invest for retirement during the marriage.

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I told him I didn’t believe in them and if he required one, then he shouldn’t marry that woman or any woman he would want to sign one
was that the reason for the demise?? did he tell u like that??

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Finally, for those that keep talking about vows and whatnot how many vows have you made to yourself that you’ve broken?

Those are all broke azz pple Truth,pay them no attention!
If ur azz is broke,u have no bizz talking/dreaming about a pre-nup.Wanna sign a pre-nup when u cant even pay the lawyer who is drafting the document.People!

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@Anomy that is le truth, as men we are suppose to make sure our women and children (notice I did say her sister’s children) are financially sound while we are here or if we happen to die suddenly. It is most to get that will and insurance in order when you are married.

Lioness: I will be in Gwinnet County this weekend so get out your inspection device!

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Lurker, you really live in Fantasy Land. The courts dont even record marriages anymore because they’ve usually dissolved before the ink dries. Don’t you have a kid by some cat that you’re no longer with and made that great plea on craigslist? And you want me to bet my life savings, currently hovering at $87.82, on you. Wow.

Btw, god had nothing to do with marriage. It was the church that capitalized on that invention. I wonder if you’d be so open if women routinely married cats that came up when he married her, aka broke azz dudes? Then you’d be looking to preserve your million dollar shoe collection.

Please let go of all that god created marriage and its the union of the spirits bs. Its 2 folks that get together to share their lives together, nothing more or less.

De plane, de plane boss.

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Cougar- I thought you were just kidding..

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It took awhile but the Truth has spoken no one is going to his mony!

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Now if Truth is ready to fight for his $87.82 then you know dayum well cats are going to fight for their millions!!!

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Good looking on the correction RandyT.

yeah, that was THE dude

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It’s wild. Said chick has been in countless “emotional relationships” with regular dudes and didn’t expect jack. Now that she meets moneybags her pain and suffering should net her 3 million.

DW, don’t joke buddy. When they add in my next interest payment I’ll be over $90 bucks. I’m a money machine baby.

Jam, those were some good movies. Those cats were nothing but ruthless. I like that. LOL

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Du- That is what I am saying.. Why get married if you are preparing for the end?

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Lioness

Why buy a car if you are just gonna wreck it?

Insurance wouldn’t be needed at all then.

Same reasoning can be applied to pre nupts.

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I’m a money machine baby.

Truth – You better be to support all your wives! Anyway, why you always coming to ME with your hand out?!!LOL!!!

PG – I heard the same thing about Juanita. I used to work with a guy that was from Chi town and good friends with MJ. But even before knowing him, I could tell they were NOT really in love. Juanita had it written all over her face when they won that 1st championship and they had the camera on them in the locker room. I would have been screaming and jumping all over my man, dripping in champagne! They both looked stiff and forced and she was looking like “whatever”!

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@M
ditto.

@AMAZON
i’ve been over our little fight. and yes i see most of your comments to me as attacks. please stop.

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I think what Beautiful,Cuttie and Lurker are saying is that they prefer to be trophy queens rather than sign pre-nups.
Even still,the work out/utility, u provide is not worth millions.U overpricing ur head game waaaaay too much

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Dang!!! I’ll take PRENUP for $100, Alex! lol …OMG @ tipping the axe man!…more like longterm disability instead.

But I have to admit, at least the way they portrayed him in the movie – he was a big guy…but soft as cotton to fall for her…like all he had to do was remember why he exiled her from the beginning.

Scarlet Johannson (unsure of spelling) did a fine portrayal of Anne’s sister – though they shared the same status, but she was just the sweeter of two. But other than his wife having a bit of trouble bearing an heir for him, I saw nothing else really wrong with her. So he found himself “bewitched”…so he in turn got what he deserved as well.

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For Real- I make VERY good money and I do have assets! Trust I am not one of these women who are fiending(sp?)to get married! There is a difference

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LIONESS: Why do you want to get married?

Truth: Dayumm mane ainevenknow you were rolling like that!!! Can a brother get a small business man grant?

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Angie, did your dream of me have any hair pulling and azz slapping? You know I’m bald right? LOL

For Real, they overlook those obvious facts. Tomorrow they’ll be giving a list of reasons they’ll leave some cat. Vows dont mean jack when they’re ready to bounce. LOL

Fellas, was talking with some guys at work and about half have been snipped. Have you noticed more guys cutting the cords? I’m thinkink about it.

Melo, lmao at overpriced headgame but so true.

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@beautiful

Let it go…ARED is ARED…and you are you…so be it…this is life…ARED is entitled to her opinions…and she articulates them very well…and you, well you express yourself…lol…we are all built differently…that is life…peace.

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Truth – Quit avoiding me. You new “rolling in dough” status has me intrigued.

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Hey Err’body! Just droppin in for a sec, I see ya’ll are holding it down as usual.

Just one quick vent though: I HATE POLLEN! And I think my co-workers are trying to slowly convert me into being as crazy as they are. They outnumber us sane folks tremendously. Insert ARed’s blank stare ‘here’

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Lmao @ —> No one is getting TRUTH’s $90 dollars!

Ya’ll silly!

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“Have you noticed more guys cutting the cords? I’m thinkink about it.”

Thiid! Ain’ gon’ baybul ta duh it! I ain’t messing with the pipes bruh! My wife got her tubes tied, which in most cases is reversible, that’s enough!

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Truth: 90% of divorce are filed because of irreco, elrecko.. umm because they couldn’t get alone anymore. Translation, she ain’t happy no mo with being married because he changed and since he changed I want half his ish even tho I am the only one that’s not happy because I deserve to be happy and I deserve to keep living the lifestyle I have grown accustom to.

PG: Isn’t strange that marriage contracts are the only contract where the party that breached the contract is compensated for said breach?

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The Truth is feeling alot of pride as the fellas admire the large sum of money in my possesion. Its good to be the king.

Jammy poo, he was a sucker for dropping wife number 1 which entitled him to a whole nother country. I guess he wasnt familar with MOB (Money over Beyatches) LOL

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Truth — You are living up to your name today, sir. Too many people think there’s something mystical about marriage — whether it’s some sort of romantic fairytale or BS religious spiritual union. And then when the fit hits the shan, they can blame it on “the romance fading” or “it wasn’t god’s plan.” Nope, sorry, it was you and your bad decision(s). Nothing else.

What it really comes down to is 2 people making a decision to share their lives. And guess what? You both have to keep making that decision every single day. If you don’t know that you still want to stick with this person even on their worst day, then don’t do it…

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Most men with money/wealth prefer the route Prince Charles took.
Get some pretty knock off and give her temp wify status.Sire some progeny to perpetuate the breed and then dogg her outta the neihgborhood.
I think that was a good win win for both.She was a hoe,him,a mean and brutal attitude to match.
When u got real money everything/most basic stuff that real people prize(like marriage),is trash.

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@ARed

Speaking the truth and being real are my most ernest virtues…that is all I have right now…and what I say is sincere…even if disputed…TRUTH…uh-huh…I have no reasons to tell lies and blow smoke up someone’s arse…I see you as YOU and I know me as ME…and there is a reconciled peace in that truth.

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Truth’s reasons to get married.

1) To pass wealth, though most folks call that divorce

2) To raise kids

3) And I added this one strictly for Tazz, when you meet that chick thats just such a gem that you have to offer her a contract, da one, wify, glove on the hand, you get the drift

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Oh…BTW…M’ stands for OF THE PEOPLE…some ppl still want to refer to me as KARYL…well, KARYL without M’ has no meaning…so “<strong”I AM M’ or M”KARYL…no compromise.

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Lioness: You still haven’t answer my question as to why you would get married.

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It is going to be in the 80’s for the remainder of the week

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I didn’t realize it was you M’Karyl. But I knew I liked you.

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i wonder if women ever think of upgrading their product, making themselves more marketable.

Mo, calm down hot mama. I’m telling you up front I’m not withdrawing my $90 to bail you out of jail. I love you but not $90 worth. MAYBE $20 worth.

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Wow, you guys are somewhat still on topic. Same o same, ARed and Beautiful going at it.

@M, knew it was you. You may have shortened your name, but not the tone of your post nor your typing style. U use “leader dots” like I do!

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Truth

I hope that they give you insurance b/c you would have to file bankruptcy if you get the snip. It costs more than $90.

Didn’t you post the Thursday is “man love” day or something over there? If so, isn’t it Thursday already there? You betta watch out.

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Alright it’s that time of day…

Doesn’t take much to make me happy and make me smile
Never never will I feel discouraged
‘Cause our love’s no mystery
Demonstrating love and affection
That you give so openly yeah
I like the way ya make me about you baby
Want the whole wide world to see

Whoa, whoa, you got the best of my love

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I can see why this is a dating blog. Yall some marriage hatin mafukkas, Dayum.!! The Pre Nup situation is pretty cut and dry. If you got real bread and she don’t. She must sign. If yall about the same financially, what’s the point. Sadly, the more wealth one accumulates the more disingenuous people tend to become. On the getting the Nutz snipped topic, I’ve been thinking about that too. Wifey says she’s not having anymore kids, but we’re not doing anything to prevent it. My timing is not what it used to be for the ole snatch out and swallow method of birth control.

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I can see why this is a dating blog. Yall some marriage hatin muthafarthers, Dayum.!! The Pre Nup situation is pretty cut and dry. If you got real bread and she don’t. She must sign. If yall about the same financially, what’s the point. Sadly, the more wealth one accumulates the more disingenuous people tend to become. On the getting the Nutz snipped topic, I’ve been thinking about that too. Wifey says she’s not having anymore kids, but we’re not doing anything to prevent it. My timing is not what it used to be for the ole snatch out and swallow method of birth control.

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Truth – I’m STILL waiting on my cut$$$$!!! You gave Mo some money, what about me after I’ve been financing you all these months!

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Okay, don’t know what happended, but stop after “Big Dummy in my prev post, referencing King HenPecked. LOL

RandyT – I was asking about Mary, Anne’s sister not being as angelic…well wrong word, fair as the movie portrayed her. It sounds like you’re still referencing Anne. So I got a little confused.

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Du- You are a DAMN fool! Snatch out & swallow WOW!!!

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Snatch out and swallow. Roflamao

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Jamoca…Mary apparently cut a swath through the French court too several years after she was Henry VIII’s mistress at age thirteen or something like that. By that time, mary had won his interest and mary was sort of cast aside. Anne Boleyn was pretty much brought up in the French court before being brought to London. It is interesting to read the book and later be driving around the Motorways (their M’s, like our interstates) and see the signs for Leed’s castle, and Hever castle, as well as Windsor and the Tower of London, all mentioned in the book. I think they patterned them all after my house in Gwinnett .

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Mr. Real If a man only marries for azz he is truly a lost soul!

Hey Lioness, is not ready for marriage she aint done with her playa card yet! Lioness quit playing with me are we on for the inspection this month or next month?

Does anyone live in Deklab (I am not going to reduce your property taxes) County? You may not see your property taxes reduce this year!

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Truth

Seriously, I know a lot of dudes that got “fixed”.
They all said that it wasn’t as bad as they thought it may be.

One of guys still managed to get his wife pregnant and she had triplets. That mess almost led to divorce. He thought that she had an affair. After all, he had the procedure over 2 years earlier and shouldn’t be able to knock her up. They went through tests to prove that with high certainty (no test can prove 100%) that he was the father.

after seeing those kids, myself, they are his. One looks like so much like him, you think that he had his own “mini- me”.

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Raqi

You call yours a “little bean”. The secretary outside of my office (who is now pregnant) calls hers “a parasite”.

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Hunter, would you stay with a woman that didnt cook?

Didn’t work?

didn’t clean?

Possible

Would you stay with a woman that wouldn’t fugg you?

Hell no.

Point proven. LOL

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Cougar- You are too cute. You got it right that I am not ready for marriage but I am FAR from a playa Next month is booked up too..

I would like some chronic..

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I have to ask one of the attorneys on the blog: In Georgia, if a woman marries and has assets before the marriage, is it true that she gets to keep all of her assets in case of a divorce, without a pre-nup?

And the thing about wills providing for children…that’s great, but that’s for when you die. I can’t imagine having kids, getting married, and getting divorced and some dude taking half of the money I saved up for my children’s education and support. Or if I have money set aside for the care of my parents and something happens in our marriage to break it up. I’d have to protect that money. Pre-nup time.

It’s not just about trust to me; ish happens and nothing is guaranteed, let alone such a transient emotion as love. Like Amazon’s point about insurance, that’s the way I feel.

Are we even still on topic??

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Kimmie, you said the money you gave me was a love offering. How the hellz you gonna keep throwing it up in my face. I don’t want to talk to you as long as your adamant about me paying you back.

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Truth…nah, didn’t hurt at all except for the needle going in with the anaesthesia maybe a little. A little sore for a few days, although my ballz were swollen for awhile. Kind of flattering actually. It is kind of a weird feeling having some guy moving your sac around, but it only takes a few minutes. Haven’t had to worry about any new heirs or worrying about some paternity suit since so it was worth it…just wish the doc had a sense of humor though.

I figured it was easier for me than having my wife’s tubes tied. I have had no regrets at all. Although I did have some fun with it one night. I was “with” this lady who had two grown children and had not had her tubes tied. I told her in the sincerest voice I could, “honey you are so sweet and so nice, I think Im going to have my vasectomy reversed just so you can have my baby”. Dayum she shot out of the bed so fast you would think she had been shot from a cannon. I was dying laughing it got her so scared.

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One of guys still managed to get his wife pregnant and she had triplets. That mess almost led to divorce.

I’ll say!!!

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Truth – Ain’t that much luuuvvvv in the world. Besides, you knew I was a B when you married me!!!LOL!!!

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AR

The doctor actually gave a partial refund and offered to redo the procedure.

My friend took the money, but chose a different doctor…:lol:

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For Real now preping for earmiffintectomy by tying Mo’s ankles to the desk.

MK: “financial pressure and the dizzle is good” – Since I’m not doing as well as Truth is will you settle for one of two?

Foots: Pre-marital property/possession stays with the owner and is outside of the divorce. Foots I like the way you think. Do you like in thigh?

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LOL @ parasites…my mother calls my youngest “Beanie” …I didn’t like it at first, but it’s wearing on me. But I still do not call her that, myself.

Hahahaaa…M’karyl…ummm-hmmm, we sure do.

LOL @ ForReal!

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@MELO
how you know how good my head game is? it might be worth millions. too bad you’ll neva find out. lol.

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@RandyT-is it true that after the procedure you have to ejaculate a certain number of times to get rid of the leftover semen before having intercourse? (When you get your medical advice from the fellas on the basketball court, they will tell you anything.)

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DuShawn…I can’t remember for sure but maybe. I know that they recommend you use protection for awhile longer (a few weeks if I remember correctly maybe) but cannot remember exactly why. Can’t remember but I want to think that some want you to provide a new semen specimen a few weeks later before dropping the raincoat or whatever.

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“One of guys still managed to get his wife pregnant and she had triplets.” – I think I figured out how Raqi got preggo!!!!

RandyT: I been trying to get my tubes tied for 3yrs now but I keep talking myself out of it everytime I see pictures of them inserting that long tube in them. Wait a minute!! Maybe I have been looking at the wrong pic. Nahhhhhhhhhh I ain’t gon do it just in case I’m right.

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There was a lady in my office years ago that got pregnant several years after her husband had a vasectomy. Kid sure looked an awful lot like one of the brokers in the office though.

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<strong.@ For Real

Hmmmm…depend on what my real biological daddy can do…lol…and let me see…how bad do I need a dizzle fix…uh, no…I need or want both…lol

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**If he is adamant about me signing it, then there isn’t enough trust in the relationship for the marriage to work…**

welcome to the WLB!

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Just had a great thought. If I get snipped then all I’ll have to worry about is diseases like aids and syphillis. Ok, I’m depressed again.

Du getting medical advice from Dr. J. LOL

Ared, that was a play for the money. Your so sensitive. I’m going to spend $3 of it on you.

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ARed, don’t cry…you knew this was going to happen. Hell, we all saw it coming.

He could have at least changed up some of the words on the proposal. I’m so devistated.

Just call me M’foo foo cuz I’m taking HALF!!!

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LOL ForReal I know how but I am oddly interested in how you think it was done. I will tell you exactly how after hearing your side.

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@ Ared

Oh now you foo of the ppl…lol

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Dude!!

I just got my Student loan statment and I am into the principal!!!!

Hellzz yes!

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For Real…could it hurt any more than childbirth??? Just wondering (of course maybe you women been shooting us a line about how much it hurts to have a baby with a big head stretch that small thing that much!!!). LOL

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For Real In thigh? Naw, I’m more of an armpit girl, like Slim. LOL!

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For Real lmao

Kimmie, due to a bad internet connection I cant read your posts. Dam gay as towelheads cant do jack right. I’ll try again next month.

Lurker, my bad, thought you was Desperate Lurker.

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@Foots–That does sound painful, But I have to tell you it would take something like that to make do it. Hopefully, we never have to go through that and I can leave my package intact.

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Du- You need your tail WHOOPED for that last comment!!

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Since we are on the subject all you men folk approaching the age of 40 need to schedule and follow thru on a prostate exam. Seriously.

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Du- You need your tail WHOOPED for that last comment!!

The Bruhs are wild men. DuShawn, careful what you wish for. Remember, death parts ya!

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Truth – I have no problem flying over there and GETTIN MY MONEY!! Ya know I have a LOT of it!!!LOL!!! Don’t play that blind, deaf & dumb routine with me, buster!!

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“Naw, I’m more of an armpit girl, like Slim.” – For Real now rubbing tussy on his wang.

“M’foo foo” – That’s was funny as hell Ared. Hey you kinda tall right? Do you like it in the back of the knee?

Dan: Didn’t you graduate from college in 1970? Dayum that’s one helluva payment plan.

Raqi: It’s something strange even for me to talk about sex with someone that’s preggo not by me. Don’t get me wrong, the baby still ain’t mines. I just think preggo women are the cutiest thangs. If I see one out at a resturant I usually offer to pay for their meal and ask them if they want dessert. They usually say yes I can pay, then I excuse myself to the restroom to climb out of the window so I don’t have to face them.

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Jamoca yeah that is cute. And this is it. Girl do you know how old I am? Too old to be having more babies.

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Du – Just wait until your little ones reach those teenage years…especially those little girls. You’ll get a workout keepin’ up with them and knockin’ out the little knuckleheads that will attempt to follow.

And where’s the LOL disclaimer on that last statement, mayne? Yeen playin, huh? lol

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“M’foo foo” – That’s was funny as hell Ared. Hey you kinda tall right? Do you like it in the back of the knee?

Lawd!!!

Yeah, I’m 5′11″ Only like it back there if it misses the target.

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For Real- Whoever you are married to or dating must have a six pack from laughing @ your crazy tail ALL THE TIME!! Goodness

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“Yeah, I’m 5′11″ Only like it back there if it misses the target.” – For Real now rubbing tussy on his wang.

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Speaking about prenups..
http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/22/tyreses-prenup-ex-gets-nada/

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Moe get out of Deklab County while you can…

See Lioness why you playin you know I am going to be scouting Gwinnett County in search of the inspector this week! Now send me the info!

@Red 5′11″ Tall and leggy hmmmmmmmmmm!

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@Red 5′11″ Tall and leggy hmmmmmmmmmm!

I’m not a cougar tho, Cougar Hunter!!!

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O.K. @Red has this for a change! 5′11″ long long legs with a touch of attitude, practicality, baller and sports lover! Nicccceeee :laugh:

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Where it at??

My wang is still in same spot Cuttie!

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Beautiful Are you still on? I was reading the earlier comments where you said that you’d sign a pre-nup, then as the conversation went on, you seemed to change your mind. What are your thoughts about it now?

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Jamoca I know right!! I’m almost back full-time. Until they start hazing me again….

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Melo…is that why you didn’t get it….smoking cush…seemed simple enough to me

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