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You don’t need Donald Trump’s assets or Oprah Winfrey’s money to consider a prenuptial agreement these days. More and more people are choosing to protect their financial assets, just in case. Is this a sign of how we view marriage?

If you can get past the “implied distrust” that prenups can bring, then maybe you can decide on terms that work for the both of you. Some of the prenuptial agreements being used today also map out a specific plan that outlines the couple’s finances and how they will be managed during the marriage. However, some  go as far as to require that the husband or wife maintain a regular sexual relationship with the other partner in order to be eligible for any portion of assets.

Considering your current financial standing, would you ask for a prenuptial agreement…. before you got married? If so, how would you bring it up? Would you have the papers ready prior to speaking to your partner?

If you love someone should you trust that person with your whole heart and your entire net worth? Or is it a matter of love and trust on one hand but when it comes to the money.. pre-nup is the way to go?

For people who are unmarried, would you have a problem signing a prenuptial? What about an infidelity clause?

362 comments Add your comment

Dan

April 22nd, 2009
1:12 pm

@Lioness

You don’t protect yourself from the wife or the husband, the prenup protects the wife/husband from the anger and greed of the “ex”.

When angry, most people want some “git back” and money is one of the best ways to get it.

A pre-nup isn’t “you can’t have dot, dot, dot” in marriage, it’s for after that marriage is dissolved or fails. Then is you can have “dot, dot, dot” and I’ll keep the rest.

DuShawn

April 22nd, 2009
1:12 pm

“Why choose a woman to be yur wife YET you have to protect your assets from her..” Surprisingly, I agree with you ladies. Modern society has given us microwavable and disposable mindset. I tell my old lady all the time. “Pastor said, tell Death Do Us Part, So you let me know when you ready to part.”

M'

April 22nd, 2009
1:16 pm

@Beautiful

I do not know what planet you live on…but in the real deal world of today, ppl will manipulate and abuse antoher person for financial gain…it happens e’erday to somebody somewhere…and yes, it may be the spouse you need toprotect your assets from…divorce happesn for a reason…if every marriage was an indelible etched agrreement without out retraction, then maybe such a need for prenups would not exist…but ppl do not always make smart marriage choices…period…now, Scottie can beam you back up.

AmazonRed™

April 22nd, 2009
1:19 pm

that’s not likely. possible, but not likely to happen.

Says who? She’s now coming off a national tv show that could attract suitors from all walks of life. Go girl.

In addition, folks of that mentality run in circles with other folks of that mentality. I doubt she’s living off a trust fund and knows no one else in the world who is as well. Money sticks together.

LIONESS- I Just State The FACTS!!

April 22nd, 2009
1:22 pm

Ared- LMAO!! I almost choked!

DW- I hear you! Sad but not always the case..

Poppa Grande

April 22nd, 2009
1:22 pm

I see both sides of this issue in particularly.

I ‘ll say this much for pre-nupts. I’ve seen them keep some divorces from becoming a nasty, drag out fights. Pre-nupt challenges are rarely won.

I’ve always considered pre-nupts to be like insurance. You pay auto insurance with the hopes that you don’t have to use it. The same goes for pre-nupts.

People lie to God all of the time. What makes you think that they won’t lie to you?

Cougar Hunter ( I luv the southern Shawties!)

April 22nd, 2009
1:23 pm

A good afternoon bloggin Superstars!

This is a good topic due to what we are experiencing in a capitolistic society. Marriage is under attack due to financial difficulties.

I myself would not require a pre-nup, I believe it breaks the basic principle of what marriage is suppose to be for richer or poorer!

@Lioness… I was justing playing with you yesterday about the Johnson inspection! :smile:

@Tazzee are you a baller? If so I will sign that pre-nup and marry you!
:wink:

Beautiful

April 22nd, 2009
1:25 pm

@M
i kinda deserve that, but still . . .

trust me. trust me to do the right thing if our marriage is broken. that’s all i’m askin’. no trust, no beautiful.

AmazonRed™

April 22nd, 2009
1:26 pm

I’ve always considered pre-nupts to be like insurance. You pay auto insurance with the hopes that you don’t have to use it. The same goes for pre-nupts.

That’s exactly what I said this morning. :lol:

Because I’m a practical person, I get the point of a prenup. No they arent’ romantic, but neither is marriage all the time.

LIONESS- I Just State The FACTS!!

April 22nd, 2009
1:27 pm

Excuse me I meant DAN

My ex brought up a prenup one morning while we were having breakfast@ his house.. It caught me off guard cause we were talking about something else when he asked me what i thought about prenups.. I was like huh? Where did that come from? He was like, i was just kidding.. I was like no you weren’t and then we had the convo.. He is well off and wants his wife to be a stay at home wife & blah, blah, blah and I told him I didn’t believe in them and if he required one, then he shouldn’t marry that woman or any woman he would want to sign one..

lurker

April 22nd, 2009
1:28 pm

if every marriage was an indelible etched agrreement without out retraction, then maybe such a need for prenups would not exist

It is. Folks have just abandoned the instition and the fact that it’s a union created by God and whether you walk or not or find you another, he’s holding you to the first one….as in til death due you part. Folks just “choose” to do otherwise…but um, yeah, it’s etched in stone.

dw

April 22nd, 2009
1:29 pm

@Lioness–Yeah it’s not always the case. Take Michael Jordan for instance, his wife stayed down for quite a while through thick and thin, bu told Mike thought Santa was speaking directly to him when he said “HO, HO, HO!”. So in her case I’d say she deserved the money for all that she put up with. On the other hand though you have some that won’t even attempt to get through rough times and try to make things work. They are like ,”uh oh he messed up time to get paid”, and those are the ones that should have to leave with that same raggedy azz suitcase they brought with them.

AmazonRed™

April 22nd, 2009
1:29 pm

Scottie can beam you back up.

:lol: I’m so glad I wasn’t the one who said it. But :lol: :lol: :lol:

LIONESS- I Just State The FACTS!!

April 22nd, 2009
1:29 pm

Cougar- No you weren’t ;) LOL!! If I would have taken you up on the dinner offer, I would have done my inspection this weekend as soon as I had an opening.. :)

LIONESS- I Just State The FACTS!!

April 22nd, 2009
1:31 pm

DW- LMAO!!!

PG- True indeed!

lurker

April 22nd, 2009
1:35 pm

Poppa Grande

April 22nd, 2009
1:36 pm

AR

That’s exactly what I said this morning.

Sorry. I didn’t pay attention to any particular person’s post.

I’m kinda half way reading the blog and half way studying criminal law and half way playing with our dog.

However, I’ll cosign the following:
they arent’ romantic, but neither is marriage all the time.

There is a business side to marriage, and I think that pre-nupts address that side of the union.
Marriages aren’t just religious. They have legal and secular implications as well. Why do you think that homosexuals are fighting so hard for the rights that come with them? It is the business stuff that they want. I’m sure that they can find a church in any state that would marry them (on a religious level), but the legal world still wouldn’t recognize it.

Dan

April 22nd, 2009
1:36 pm

@ Lurker

“folks” have been getting divorces for centuries.

I think it was Louis the XVI that started another RELIGION so that he could get a divorce “sanctioned” by the church. The way people treat marriage today is lax, but only on the sliding scale of since forever.

@Lioness

I get that you may be personally offended by being asked to sign a prenup, I’m just saying that it doesn’t govern marriage, but it governs what happens after.

Beautiful

April 22nd, 2009
1:37 pm

**I’m so glad I wasn’t the one who said it**

you don’t have to say anything. it’s obvious in your post directed to me. i see it, they see it. we don’t agree on most things. get over it!

Tazzee - all moved in (sort of)

April 22nd, 2009
1:38 pm

Cougar – no, I’m not a baller at all. I guess the guys that make more than me don’t want me ;-)

M'

April 22nd, 2009
1:39 pm

@Beautiful

Baby, it would be a much more wonderful world if all we needed was trust in each other to co-exist…but that is not the real world…just an ideal desire…and yes, I more than anyone would love to live in a world were the face value of ppl and what they say and do reconciled themselves without question…but that is not the case…so as I choose for myself, I choose for all mankind…so I choose the protect the best interest of myself…and then by default, I also choose to protect the best interests of others…I may not control how the world operates, but I can control me in it…and, btw…you do have your right to your POV…even if I do not agree.

anonymousella

April 22nd, 2009
1:43 pm

prenup? yup. i own property (ok. i mortgage it). i have investments. in all probability i will have a six-figure inheritance. my current sweetie is still a renter, but could also inherit six-figures. plus he lives in a community property state and (currently) earns almost twice what i do.

man, we’d be stupid not to have our financial business spelled. the. eff. out. in advance. either one of us could be financially destroyed by the other in a divorce proceeding. and i am the type to cut somebody for messing with my money… LOL.

in the dodged bullet known as my last relationship, we discussed marriage and prenups too. he had kids, and i wanted to make sure that all of us were covered should we get married. if he died while we were married, his kids would be SOL (as his wife, i would have inherited EVERYTHING, regardless of who his beneficiaries were). yet if we didn’t marry and bought a house — something we also considered — i would potentially be SOL if he died with no paperwork while we were shacking up (his kids would inherit his share and i’d have to buy them out if i ever wanted to sell and move).

from my perspective, if you love someone, why wouldn’t you show it by protecting them financially from your future jacka$$ery?

lurker

April 22nd, 2009
1:44 pm

Dan “folks” have been getting divorces for centuries.

There’s a butt load of stuff folks do and shouldn’t but the ink has dried and just because I or anyone else choose to do something “other than”….doesn’t change the fact that it stands…that’s a subject for another day though….LOL

Poppa Grande

April 22nd, 2009
1:46 pm

dw

Don’t get started on Juanita. She went from ball player to ball player. Reggie Theus was her man before MJ. She routinely hung around the White Sox.

Mike is the prime example of getting married for reasons other than romantic ones. Juanita got pregnant, Mike’s parents didn’t like the idea of their grandchildren not being in a two parent home. Mike eventually proposed. I think that he did it for his parents more than for her.

She got what she deserved, and so did he!

anonymousella

April 22nd, 2009
1:49 pm

follow up comment: even if you *don’t* have any money / property at the time of marriage, a prenup can also specify how accumulated assets will be divided upon divorce and even how you invest for retirement during the marriage.

The Truth-Wearing a towel on my head and nothingelse while doing dishes

April 22nd, 2009
1:51 pm

Good day folks

Everyone put your face next to the screen so I can slap some sense into you. SSSSSSSSSSSMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCKKKKKK

Marriage is about business, period. You hit the high note emotionally after your first orgasm, then its time to strap in and deal with the bidness. Protecting your assets are a part of that. If you didn’t train hard since you were 10 and deal with the pains and injuries you shouldn’t ask for the rewards. How many of you looking to reap the rewards will jump into the line to split the debts accumulated? Dam the room got silent quick. Pre nups, trusts, and retirement accounts are necessary or right around the time you want to retire you’ll be watching your ex mate pull out the driveway with their new mate that happens to be alot younger and hotter than you. LOL

Whats really amazing is in our culture marriage is worth less than a 60 year old tijuana hooker yet you still want someone to bet the farm on you. When you dic=vorce a broke azz dude you dont get jack so why would you with a rich cat, since your in it for love that is.

Mutombo wanted his fiancee to sign a pre nup and she refused the day before the ceremony, even though he had flown folks in and had everything set up. Guess what, he cancelled it and didn’t get married. He lost $250k but saves a fortune.

Finally, for those that keep talking about vows and whatnot how many vows have you made to yourself that you’ve broken? You all aren’t some virtuos mf’ers whose word is good as gold. You’re regular folks that will lie when its convenient, even if its to yourself. We live in a lawsuit happy society. Put your hard work up for grabs if you want to. There’s someone planning right now how to get your loot. I’m at Areds door as we speak picking her locks so I can grab her Liberace collection which is worth at least $30 dollars on the open market.

Quick vent: My days start at 3 am and usually end at 7pm. Now these sobs have us working an extra 1.5 hours every other day to clean weapons. Biyatch i hav e to sleep. Woosa Woose, bring it down Truth. End of vent.

MELO

April 22nd, 2009
1:52 pm

I told him I didn’t believe in them and if he required one, then he shouldn’t marry that woman or any woman he would want to sign one
was that the reason for the demise?? did he tell u like that??

LIONESS- I Just State The FACTS!!

April 22nd, 2009
1:54 pm

Melo- No.. Did he tell me what like that?

MELO

April 22nd, 2009
1:57 pm

Finally, for those that keep talking about vows and whatnot how many vows have you made to yourself that you’ve broken?

Those are all broke azz pple Truth,pay them no attention!
If ur azz is broke,u have no bizz talking/dreaming about a pre-nup.Wanna sign a pre-nup when u cant even pay the lawyer who is drafting the document.People! :lol: :lol:

AmazonRed™

April 22nd, 2009
1:59 pm

get over it!

Get over what? Just because you and I don’t agree, it doesn’t mean I’m going to stop having discussions. YOU just need to stop thinking every post to you is an attack. Get over that. :)

Cougar Hunter ( I luv the southern Shawties!)

April 22nd, 2009
2:01 pm

@Anomy that is le truth, as men we are suppose to make sure our women and children (notice I did say her sister’s children) are financially sound while we are here or if we happen to die suddenly. It is most to get that will and insurance in order when you are married.

Lioness: I will be in Gwinnet County this weekend so get out your inspection device! :wink:

dw

April 22nd, 2009
2:01 pm

The Truth-Wearing a towel on my head and nothingelse while doing dishes

April 22nd, 2009
2:04 pm

Lurker, you really live in Fantasy Land. The courts dont even record marriages anymore because they’ve usually dissolved before the ink dries. Don’t you have a kid by some cat that you’re no longer with and made that great plea on craigslist? And you want me to bet my life savings, currently hovering at $87.82, on you. Wow.

Btw, god had nothing to do with marriage. It was the church that capitalized on that invention. I wonder if you’d be so open if women routinely married cats that came up when he married her, aka broke azz dudes? Then you’d be looking to preserve your million dollar shoe collection.

Please let go of all that god created marriage and its the union of the spirits bs. Its 2 folks that get together to share their lives together, nothing more or less.

De plane, de plane boss.

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 22nd, 2009
2:05 pm

Actually, having stood in the Tower of London at the spot where Henry VIII “divorced” Anne Boleyn, I suspect she would have been grateful FOR a divorce and quite content with a prenup vs her fate.

LIONESS- I Just State The FACTS!!

April 22nd, 2009
2:11 pm

Cougar- I thought you were just kidding..

Jamoca

April 22nd, 2009
2:11 pm

RandyT – Heck yeah! She probably would have. Lol “The Other Boleyn Girl” is one of my favorite movies…although they probably left a lot of the good stuff out. However, when I watched Elizabeth Part I & II (the Golden Age) they show her as being practically scalped and then burned at the stake, but in TOBG – she was beheaded.

Now she DID get what she deserved!…however she got it…he sure let her have it!

Cougar Hunter ( I luv the southern Shawties!)

April 22nd, 2009
2:13 pm

It took awhile but the Truth has spoken no one is going to his mony!

DuShawn

April 22nd, 2009
2:16 pm

“a prenup can also specify how accumulated assets will be divided upon divorce” Implicit in that statement is the foregone conclusion that this shyt is not gonna last.

dw

April 22nd, 2009
2:17 pm

Now if Truth is ready to fight for his $87.82 then you know dayum well cats are going to fight for their millions!!!

MELO

April 22nd, 2009
2:18 pm

suspect she would have been grateful FOR a divorce and quite content with a prenup vs her fate

If u dont want a pre-nup,heck u might get the marriage and wedding now and then a Scott Peterson later on! :loL:

Dan

April 22nd, 2009
2:18 pm

Good looking on the correction RandyT.

yeah, that was THE dude

Randyt (aka Been there, Done that, Got a Closet FULL of t-shirts)

April 22nd, 2009
2:22 pm

Hey jamoca…I have not seen the movie but did read the book. Definitely a different culture. Anne was beheaded (actually I have a picture of the plaque where it happened) by a French swordsman brought from France by Henry VIII.

A bit of history…before you were beheaded, you were supposed to “tip” the axe man to 1) redeem your sins, and 2) so he would make a clean cut with the axe and not keep hacking at you. This was alleged to have been the first known case of “severance pay”. LOL

The Truth-Wearing a towel on my head and nothingelse while doing dishes

April 22nd, 2009
2:23 pm

It’s wild. Said chick has been in countless “emotional relationships” with regular dudes and didn’t expect jack. Now that she meets moneybags her pain and suffering should net her 3 million.

DW, don’t joke buddy. When they add in my next interest payment I’ll be over $90 bucks. I’m a money machine baby.

Jam, those were some good movies. Those cats were nothing but ruthless. I like that. LOL

AmazonRed™

April 22nd, 2009
2:24 pm

Baby, it would be a much more wonderful world if all we needed was trust in each other to co-exist…but that is not the real world…just an ideal desire…

Amen. As much as I’d like to see that happen. It’s just not realistic. Those chicks are the ones who never knew their husbands were gay or secret lives or other families with that thinking. :lol:

LIONESS- I Just State The FACTS!!

April 22nd, 2009
2:25 pm

Du- That is what I am saying.. Why get married if you are preparing for the end?

AmazonRed™

April 22nd, 2009
2:27 pm

I’m at Areds door as we speak picking her locks so I can grab her Liberace collection which is worth at least $30 dollars on the open market.

:lol: I hope you’re ready for what’s behind that door! His name is “killer” and he likes the light meat! :lol:

Poppa Grande

April 22nd, 2009
2:27 pm

Lioness

Why buy a car if you are just gonna wreck it?

Insurance wouldn’t be needed at all then.

Same reasoning can be applied to pre nupts.

The Truth-Wearing a towel on my head and nothingelse while doing dishes

April 22nd, 2009
2:28 pm

Lioness, for the vast majority marriage is the end. LOL

kimmie

April 22nd, 2009
2:30 pm

I’m a money machine baby.

Truth – You better be to support all your wives! Anyway, why you always coming to ME with your hand out?!!LOL!!!

PG – I heard the same thing about Juanita. I used to work with a guy that was from Chi town and good friends with MJ. But even before knowing him, I could tell they were NOT really in love. Juanita had it written all over her face when they won that 1st championship and they had the camera on them in the locker room. I would have been screaming and jumping all over my man, dripping in champagne! They both looked stiff and forced and she was looking like “whatever”!

LIONESS- I Just State The FACTS!!

April 22nd, 2009
2:30 pm

Truth- I am going to spank you

PG- Haven’t ever been the cause or involved in one of those.. My insurance company is getting rich off my responsible driving azz..