His Jackets pull a no-show, and Paul Johnson is not pleased

This one picture is worth a hundred thousand words. (AJC photo by Johnny Crawford)

This one picture is worth a couple of hundred thousand words, give or take. (AJC photo by Johnny Crawford)

Athens – There were two snippets of good news for Georgia Tech on an otherwise wretched Saturday: The Jackets still get to play for the ACC Championship, and the Georgia Bulldogs will be occupied elsewhere.

Other than that, this was a wipeout of epic dimensions. It wasn’t quite as bad as the 51-7 loss here in 2002, but at least that drubbing came in Year 1 under a new coach. This one arrived in Year 5 under Paul Johnson, who seemed the anti-Chan Gailey. Meaning: A man who could hold his own against the hated mutts. (Gailey went for 0-for-6.) But now Johnson, after stunning the Bulldogs on his first try, has lost four in a row to Georgia, and the series has again gone lopsided.

And Johnson, who on taking this job ordered that the slogan “Beat Georgia” be displayed on Tech’s practice field, was not pleased. Afterward his voice could be heard — at great volume and great length — railing at his players through the metal door of the visitors’ locker room, and his subsequent press briefing was sardonic even by Johnson’s standards.

When a reporter mentioned that early turnovers might have compromised Tech’s chance of winning, Johnson said: “Were you watching the game? Do you think it mattered where (the Bulldogs) got the ball?”

Speaking of which: “(Georgia) averaged 14 yards a play the first half.” (Actually only 10.6. But it seemed like 14.)

When another reporter noted that Georgia had the ball for only 8 1/2 minutes en route to 28 first-half points, Johnson said: “Good thing, huh?”

This is the same Paul Johnson who said in 2009, when his Jackets were about to play for (and win, at least on the field) the ACC title, who blithely said his program “had bigger fish to fry” than Georgia; the same Paul Johnson who has said repeatedly that he came to Tech “to win championships.” Technically, he still can claim the 2012 championship of his middling league, but the mythical state title is gone yet again. And, given that Tech’s 42-10 loss Saturday was its worst against Georgia under this coach, it wouldn’t appear the gap is narrowing.

Said Tevin Washington, Tech’s senior quarterback: “The only way we’re going to get it going the other way is to beat them.”

Whenever Tech loses — and it has lost half its games this regular season — the knee-jerk reaction is to label Johnson’s stylized offense as high-schoolish. But here again we saw that the option is all that distinguishes Tech as a program of worth. The defense, now on its third coordinator under Johnson, remains terrible. Special teams are again a calamity. If not for the Jackets’ capacity to run the ball, they’d be Vanderbilt before James Franklin. They’d be, in a word, hopeless.

But here’s the thing: The rest of Tech football has grown so feeble that it can no longer prop up the stylized offense, and on a day when the offense gets yards — Tech outgained the Bulldogs 426 yards to 379 — but not points, it has no chance. Said Johnson: “We couldn’t match them score for score,” and that has become the only way the Jackets can hope to beat anyone halfway decent.

This was the sixth time this season the Jackets have yielded 40 or more points. The wonder isn’t that they lost five of those games; the wonder is that they won even one. (At North Carolina 68-50.)

A big-time program cannot long subsist as a one-trick pony, and we’re seeing the limits of Johnson as a program builder. (As opposed to an offensive schemer.) He hasn’t recruited as well as he needs to recruit to sustain the successes achieved with Gailey’s holdovers. That Tech will play Florida State in Charlotte for the ACC title says more about the flimsy state of the conference than it does about Tech. The only time these Jackets look like a real team is when they have the ball.

The Jackets saw early Saturday what a real team looks like when it doesn’t have the ball. Tech back Robert Godhigh burst inside the Georgia 5 on the Jackets’ first series, and for a moment it seemed the game — Georgia had seized a 7-0 lead after 63 seconds — was about to be joined. But no. Safety Bacarri Rambo wrested the ball from Godhigh’s grasp, and that was essentially that.

Asked if it would be difficult to rouse his men to play Florida State after such a beating, Johnson said: “I look at it as another opportunity. We’ll see how they respond.”

It must be noted that Johnson did not give the impression of a coach living in fervent hope. True, a different opponent and a different venue could yield a different result. But it’s hard to imagine any game involving the Bulldogs turning out well for Tech anytime soon.

Further reading: On  Paul Johnson’s poor early choice and Tech’s lack of fans.

By Mark Bradley

519 comments Add your comment

GT in CT

November 24th, 2012
4:50 pm

Ben

November 24th, 2012
4:54 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

November 24th, 2012
4:56 pm

“No show” implies that they had the talent to win and didn’t put in the effort. They lost and continue to lose because they don’t have enough talent.

A mutt

November 24th, 2012
4:57 pm

Heheheheheh. More Rhodes and Fulbright Scloars too.

Must be bad if Bradley’s turned on CPJ.

GT2012

November 24th, 2012
4:58 pm

The performance by Tech didn’t surprise me. Georgia played like a #3 team should play. It’s sad the rivalry was sunk to this level once again…

GT1990

November 24th, 2012
5:06 pm

Tech might as well drop this game!

Spike

November 24th, 2012
5:06 pm

No rings rings this year. HAHAHAHAH

SOUTH GA DAWG FAN

November 24th, 2012
5:09 pm

If the nfl outlaws all blocks below the waist and college follows i might actually feel a little sorry for cpj. Go dawgs

Hairy Dawg

November 24th, 2012
5:09 pm

I was shocked that Tech didn’t play harder than that. Johnson recruited all of those guys, so it’s on him. I sure am glad he did a great job getting his team ready to play.

Busted Bandwagon

November 24th, 2012
5:10 pm

Where are all the big mouth chest thumpers that used to be all over these blogs; yellow fuzz, st Simons, M, etc. the is a new sheriff in town, bla, bla, bla. Tech football is a wreck. And the good news it’s only going to get worse. Glad it hurts so bad

GT = 11 time loser to Mark Richt

November 24th, 2012
5:10 pm

<—- Had to change my name

Bamajacket

November 24th, 2012
5:10 pm

This is not hard to figure out. Johnson needn’t be yelling at the players. He needs to look in the mirror. 3 star players play like 3 star players. Against 5 star players, they look like, well, 3 star players. This offense is pretty much one trick pony. They have no passing game, no 2 minute offense, and he calls really dumb plays. Not only that, but his 3 stars can’t execute. Football on the flats is clearly going backward. How long does Tech let it go on? The stadium is going to look pretty empty next year. Do we HAVE to go to Charlotte next week? Why? we are seriously looking at 6-8 here. Going backwards at a rapid pace. Sad.

misterwax

November 24th, 2012
5:11 pm

yes, not likely to improve anytime soon….GA is very good this year on defense….the USC gane was an anomaly….Oh well.

DJ

November 24th, 2012
5:11 pm

Bradley; “greatest coach in Tech history” Nov 2008

1989Tech

November 24th, 2012
5:12 pm

It seems like we have settled for winning 6 to 7 games a year. I am so sick of GT using our acedemics as an excuse. Other academic schools are able to get talent into their programs, why have we settled for a gimmick?

The Ghost

November 24th, 2012
5:12 pm

@ A mutt……….What the heck is a Scloar??? I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you are not one.

GT = 11 time loser to Mark Richt

November 24th, 2012
5:13 pm

CPJ is doing a great job and should get a contract for life

Rob of Naples

November 24th, 2012
5:13 pm

At least the Jackets seemed more competitive against the UGA second teams. Hooray! What I fear, as a 50+ year fan and Tech alumnus, is that Coach Johnson is coming across with recruits as smug and tight lipped as he does with the press. Our football program is in shambles due to what must be poor recruiting if not poor coaching. It feels today kinda like it felt after the election on 11/6. Maybe I’m taking this stuff too seriously?

DS

November 24th, 2012
5:13 pm

Dear GT, Please show some intelligence and relive Pal Johnson of his coaching duties.

Roy

November 24th, 2012
5:13 pm

Tech will finish the year 6-8. They stink.

zgoldatl

November 24th, 2012
5:14 pm

Tough game. Let’s win next week and get ready to end our Bowl losing streak. Then on to the Vad Lee era. Also Tech should hire Tenuta again

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
5:16 pm

I was shocked that Tech didn’t play harder than that.

They played fairly hard in the first half, they just had some bad turnovers. It was pretty obvious in the second half that the team was pretty much just running the clock out. Overall, it was the same story as almost every season in the last 40 years. UGA has more talent, therefore they win. Its not going to change so Tech fans should just be happy with 1 out of 10 if we can keep that pace up.

David S.

November 24th, 2012
5:17 pm

SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS…. FIRE CPJ

DS

November 24th, 2012
5:18 pm

Dear GT, Please show some intelligence and relieve Paul Johnson of his coaching duties.

JB

November 24th, 2012
5:18 pm

Those answers sux. Tech deserves better. His staff,his players, his scheme, his play calling. Maybe he ought to look in the mirror. Good news Tech fans. He has maybe one year left. Go Dawgs

The Ghost

November 24th, 2012
5:20 pm

Have you ever seen a game where the difference between 5 star recruits and 2/3 star recruits was so evident??? I was and am a CPJ fan but to continue to deny that recruiting matters is simply arrogance, if not, denial! It looked like the #3 team in the country versus, well, Georgia Southern. I hate to admit it, but we are definitely going backwards. Sending Chan Gailey packing was the right move. We were as good as we were gonna be with Gailey. Problem is, he should have never gotten the job and once he did, we kept him too long. Interesting question…..CPJ went from Georgia Southern to Navy to Georgia Tech…..where would he go next???

Roy

November 24th, 2012
5:20 pm

Burgess

November 24th, 2012
5:21 pm

Tell me again how good Johnson was at Ga. Southern and Navy

Roy

November 24th, 2012
5:21 pm

Oh and GTnoob, it’s 1 out of 11 for the nerds or bugs

David S.

November 24th, 2012
5:21 pm

Oleary proved that physical football can be played at TECH, think back to how bad Bill Lewis left the program, but you cant run a highschool style O at this level… It takes smart recruiting and installing some sound structure about your program on and off the fied with your actions, not YOUR MOUTH LIKE CPJ FIRST DID WHEN HE ARRIVED!

Spike

November 24th, 2012
5:21 pm

Please renew hls contract.

Burgess

November 24th, 2012
5:22 pm

I wonder if Ga. State or Kennesaw would hire Johnson

Bamajacket

November 24th, 2012
5:22 pm

FSU is better than Ga. Much better. Get ready for a serious butt whipping next week. Seriously. After several years of this I can only conclude that Tech’s players are playing as good as they can. At some point, somebody is going to have to acknowledge that our coaching staff, all of them, can’t recruit good enough players, or get the one’s they have ready to play.

Pitbull

November 24th, 2012
5:22 pm

After the UGA – Tech game I switched over to another game.

Saw an interesting news flash scroll across the bottom of the screen.

It said the NCAA is close to announcing that it is passing a rule making it illegal to block below the waist. No joke.

Wonder how Paul Johnson’s offense will work then without the cut blocks.

Should be interesting.

tinhat

November 24th, 2012
5:24 pm

@ The Ghost … as my 15 year-old daughter is fond of saying, “If you can’t win the argument (or, in this case, the game), criticize their grammar.”

Say it ain't so, Paul

November 24th, 2012
5:25 pm

Johnson with his offense is the only chance Tech has to compete at this level. The problem with CPJ is that he knows nothing about defense and unless he can get someone to come to the flats that he can delegate all defensive decisions to, 54 -47 scores will be our fate, year in and year out!

If do right, no can defense

November 24th, 2012
5:25 pm

Since CPJ arrived in Atlanta:
2008: 3-point win against uga
2009: 6-point loss against uga
2010: 8-point loss against uga
2011: 14-point loss against uga
2012: 32-point loss against uga

There are two reasons for this: 1. Mark Richt is an – hate to admit it – an outstanding coach. Fool me once and all that. 2. GT recruiting has deteriorated… with all of Gailey’s players gone, all the juniors & seniors are CPJ’s recruits… and they have underperformed.

I’m sure I can fit a cubic or exponential curve to the trend and come up with a 56-7 prediction or something next year in ATL. But I won’t do it because it’s obvious anyway.

whatsthatsmell?

November 24th, 2012
5:26 pm

Is GT worse than Auburnette?

GFF

November 24th, 2012
5:26 pm

Well said. Beating Tech NEVER gets old! Go Dogs!

GFF

November 24th, 2012
5:26 pm

Ms. Doubtfire!

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
5:28 pm

Have you ever seen a game where the difference between 5 star recruits and 2/3 star recruits was so evident???

It wasn’t just 5 star players versus 3 star players. That happens every year. This UGA team is probably the most talented team in the country and easily the most talented in UGA history. That is why there there is such a discrepancy. No matter how bad Richt coaches you can’t overcome that.

GFF

November 24th, 2012
5:29 pm

11 out of 12!

pw12

November 24th, 2012
5:29 pm

Cpj is ga techs “ray goff”" he needs to go open a zaxbys..im tired of techs mediocrity teams

cc

November 24th, 2012
5:29 pm

11 out of 12; 17 out of 21, and a 6-6 team in the ACC “Championship game”. What a joke of a team and and joke of a conference.

Sad GT Fan

November 24th, 2012
5:30 pm

Its different as night and day..UGA has 4 & 5 star players and GT has no stars. Its like a class A school playing a 6AAAAAA HS team. For many reasons GT can’t land those players…we all know why. I don’t believe changing coaches will solve that problem but I’d like to see more life and passion from players that another coach would bring. Todays game was what everyone expected…sad but true. GT player never expected to win. Every dawg has its day and today was UGA’s..Congrats!
GT is lower now than when CPJ came.. Drads left the building and we’re stuck for 5 more years..We are a wreck..God Bless!

GFF

November 24th, 2012
5:30 pm

GTBob…..Richt owns Tech. I doubt there were 1500 Tech fans at the game today. What a joke!

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
5:31 pm

Oleary proved that physical football can be played at TECH

O’Leary was granted a multitude of academic exemptions which eventually led to flunk gate. He is part of the reasons Tech will never be competitive again.

Chalupa Batman

November 24th, 2012
5:31 pm

Gosh lets see some more posts about the academics at tech, and the lack thereof (supposedly) at uga. Give it up nerds-no one cares. Face it we run this state.

How disgusted will you nerds be when we beat al and then beat nd for bcs champ??

But lets hear some more about your great academics……losers.

Woofy One

November 24th, 2012
5:31 pm

PJ was given the courses he wanted two years ago. The academic argument was never valid anyway.

GFF

November 24th, 2012
5:31 pm

Hell, Ray Goff owned Tech!! LOL.

William Casey

November 24th, 2012
5:32 pm

@BAMAJACKET: You obviously aren’t watching FSU vs. UF. UGA is better than FSU.

Dacusville Bill

November 24th, 2012
5:32 pm

I hate to repeat myself—-BUT—Fire Pitiful Paul TODAY, and give Joker Phillips the job on a game by game basis–

Chalupa Batman

November 24th, 2012
5:33 pm

Btw kudos to you, gtbob. Only tech fan brave enuff to stay on these blogs after the beat down. Unlike st simons et al.

But you still root for a loser program.

jerry

November 24th, 2012
5:33 pm

It is the talent pool. Each has a different one. We know that, don’t we? I guess some people like to beat a dead horse.

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
5:34 pm

PJ was given the courses he wanted two years ago. The academic argument was never valid anyway.

Oh really? What courses was he given?

Mike Lum

November 24th, 2012
5:34 pm

Vad Lee didn’t get enough playing time this season to be competitive against UGA’s defense. But oh Lee continues to throw off his back foot, the Tech offense will not improve next year.

Walter

November 24th, 2012
5:34 pm

yeah Fsu looks so much better losing to the gators 13-3, the acc is terrible GT should bow out of the championship game. 6-6 should not give you a chance for any kind of championship

Bamajacket

November 24th, 2012
5:35 pm

Hey, do we REALLY believe our team enjoys getting embarrassed every week? I don’t think so. Georgia certainly had the better players, and it showed today. But, the bigger picture: Does Miami have better players? VaTech? MTSU? BYU? I could go on. Utah? Air Force? At some point poor play=poor coaching.You can only blame the players so long.

Dacusville Bill

November 24th, 2012
5:35 pm

Tech should be the first in the nation with a “Coach for a Week” until we find the right one–

quick fix

November 24th, 2012
5:36 pm

re Tech D…dogs could win by not throwing a pass or they could win by not running…Tech D is that
bad.
ps…Johnson sure looks like a (______) when he “talks” to his players when they come off the field.

Michael

November 24th, 2012
5:36 pm

You guys kill me about the cut block. As if your team never uses it ever. I no this is hard to believe but NFL teams even use it. Lets just stop blocking and tackeling below the waist so no one gets hurt.

David S.

November 24th, 2012
5:36 pm

Hey GTBob, than just shut the damn program down then… A decision has to be made, this level, or go to IVY league status, if the academics mean that much… Maybe thats the road to travel… No doubt TECH is more difficult, due to all the CALC classes, but, good smart recruiting is the first key here to success, and CPJ doesn’t have a clue as to how to do it……………

FrustratedTechGrad

November 24th, 2012
5:39 pm

All this talk about a “high school” offense is irrelevant. GT can move the ball on just about any defense; the option offense is enough different that GT can succeed even with 3-star players. The problem is that games include two other elements–defense & special teams. That’s where GT’s lack of talent gets exposed. Like “Rob of Naples”, I fear that CPJ’s acerbic attitude doesn’t play well in living rooms with high school recruits.

Rufus

November 24th, 2012
5:39 pm

I wonder if we could compete in the Sun Belt Conference.

Sad GT Fan

November 24th, 2012
5:40 pm

We going in the wrong direction..down not up. Fire PAUL JOHNSON.

Jorge O'leary

November 24th, 2012
5:41 pm

How f”ing hard can defense be when your offense holds the ball 40 minutes a game??

heeldawg

November 24th, 2012
5:41 pm

1. CPJ cannot recruit. That’s just it. And you cannot use academics as an excuse–Stanford beat the number one team in America last weekend, and Notre Dame’s number one right now, and they are both quite solid academic programs. It’’s just that no passing QB wants to play in this offense, and Paul Johnson is an a$$ who players don’t want to play for. With no players and mediocre defensiev coaching, you’re not going to beat a top-level program.

2. FSU is not as good as Georgia. Their gaudy stats are the way they are because they are in the ACC. In the SEC, FSU would be at least a two-game loser. Want objective data? Tech hung 68 points on UNC last week–and the Tech O was held to three points by Georgia’s first team D this week. And Florida, who Georgia beat, leads FSU by 10 in the second half right now in Tallahassee.

Bamajacket

November 24th, 2012
5:41 pm

@ William Casey:
Yeah, I got a little exuberent there. No slight meant to GA. We’re going to get killed and embarrassed next week.

KBP

November 24th, 2012
5:42 pm

Mark, I am a Dawg fan and only a Tech hater when we play them. But come on, the only time this offense looks like a real offense is when it is not 3rd and 6 or worse. Eventually you will have 3rd and long and you have to be able to pass. CPJ’s unwillingness to develop a passing game will continue to kill Tech. Sure, Tech needs better talent on both sides of the ball, but the lack of a passing game makes the offense worthless when they get behind. If Aaron Murray had completed his 63rd pass of the season in the 12th game, he would not be effective when it counts either.

Sad GT Fan

November 24th, 2012
5:42 pm

Moderation for what? Blog is as bad as Johnson.

Dogfan F/K/A St. Simons

November 24th, 2012
5:42 pm

1. Ga. Southern was a tougher opponent than Tech and scored more points on UGA. That’s something Technerds can hold with pride.

2. Bammerjacket, FSU is not much better than UGA, just mush better than GT. FSU has played a bunch of ACC patsies and has beaten none. FSU will lose to UF today.

3. 42-10 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jorge O'leary

November 24th, 2012
5:43 pm

And Florida, who Georgia beat, leads FSU by 10 in the second half right now in Tallahassee.

The same Gators who gave 6 gifts to Georgia so the dogs could win a squeaker??

Sad GT Fan

November 24th, 2012
5:44 pm

God bless ajc…

If do right, no can defense

November 24th, 2012
5:44 pm

And Mr. Bradley, you have been spot on over the past couple of seasons, that we simply don’t have the talent to beat uga.

I know recruiting rankings out of high-school are hit-and-miss, and I’m fully aware of the numerous success stories in the NFL coming out of nowhere. But when it’s so lopsided across-the-board, you have to admit it’s a tall order against the powerhouse teams like uga.

QB: Tech – Washington (**) / Lee (****) / Days (***)
QB: uga – Murray (*****) / LeMay (****)

BB/FB: Tech – Sims (***) / Laskey (**)
RB: uga – Gurley (****) / Marshall (*****)

I could go on and on… especially on defense, and in the trenches. We need better players, and fast.

GT71

November 24th, 2012
5:46 pm

OK, FIRE HIM! He can’t seem to think of ANYTHING except his precious offense. Defense sux, special teams, aren’t…hell, they aren’t even 1/2 decent.
This has got to stop.
Sure, UGAG has it’s 25th annual top 10 recruits and this year they are playing like it – finally. Blind hogs. Mark Rickety doesn’t beat Tech: their players are better in every facet, every year. But then with so many ‘majors’ and known as a pretty fair party school with revolving-door jails, why the hi-schoolers in the southeast just drool to go to Athens.
Maybe no one else can make Tech a winner again, but this Johnson guy s too stubborn, ego-driven, blinder-ed to be a head coach in FBS football. Either fire his butt or drop down a notch…but don’t schedule MTSU.

Sad GT Fan

November 24th, 2012
5:47 pm

Mark whats going on with this moderation crap…you ate one blog that had nothing bad in it.

Bamajacket

November 24th, 2012
5:47 pm

KBP, you nailed it. You just cannot win against good teams with a one trick offense. I’ve been saying it for 2-3 years myself. When you have one tool in your toolbox, you are going to lose against a team with more tools.

FalconUGAFan

November 24th, 2012
5:47 pm

When a reporter mentioned that early turnovers might have compromised Tech’s chance of winning, Johnson said: “Were you watching the game? Do you think it mattered where (the Bulldogs) got the ball?”

At least HE is willing to be honest about the loss.

Highly Respected Southern Troll

November 24th, 2012
5:47 pm

Just go ahead and say it, Mr. Bradley. Johnson needs to go. He’s completely out of excuses. Johnson had his chance to turn the Georgia series around in 2009 & 2010…win those games and Richt would have been gone. He blew it.

Johnson’s playcalling against UGA has been suspect four years running. The defense is worse than it was when Groh was fired. The Jackets just not only lost to their arch-rival for the eleventh time in twelve years, they now face a beatdown of epic proportions against FSU. Hell, they lost to MTSU earlier this year!

Why keep Johnson?

realist

November 24th, 2012
5:47 pm

Paul Johnson’s time is up, but we can’t afford to get rid of him.

GT Football is entering a long period of darkness.

UGA = Yawn

November 24th, 2012
5:50 pm

Florida does NOT lead FSU by 10. It is 3. And UGA beat UF only because UF had 6 turnovers! Bama had 42 by end of 1st half. If I were Georgia fans, I’d be a bit more toned down in the amount of boasting until next Saturday night.

Mouthing is all GT geeks have

November 24th, 2012
5:52 pm

Stomped was GT. stomped. Had CMR kept his O in the game, UGA could gave scored another, easy,easy 28 points. GT got lucky on 3rd 17 and scored.

Half of the men in my family graduated from GT, including my grandfather. I the seeing GT such a laughing stock. If GT were to hire a guy that can recruit and run the spread, hire a solid D coach, they could compete with most of the good teams. Till then, HIT EM IN THE MOUTH, is your guy.

I love whupping GT.

Go Dogs. CMR OWNS FISH FRY.

Paul in NH

November 24th, 2012
5:54 pm

Georgia has a team full of talented players and they were well prepared and motivated for what turned out to be a well deserved victory. I am disappointed to read that Johnson was berating the players immediately after the game – what good does that do. There will be plenty of time watching the review of the game to point out mistakes and problems. In my opinion, a rant in the visitors’ locker room immediately after a blow out loss to your biggest rival says more about the coach than the players.

Bamajacket

November 24th, 2012
5:54 pm

What bugs me the most about CPJ is his obvious lack of leadership. I’m old, been around a while. But leaders never change. Alabama players in the 60s-70s never lost one game. Not one. Their coach did. He said so, too many times to count. The players won every game the team won. Can’t remember the guy’s name right now, but he was a pretty good coach. Johnson might go read his book.

Tmgotech

November 24th, 2012
5:54 pm

Good thing we didn’t play the Gamecocks. THEY would have beaten us by 60 points!!

UGA = Yawn

November 24th, 2012
5:56 pm

Florida is not beating FSU by 10. they are LOSING!

UGA = Yawn

November 24th, 2012
5:58 pm

Bama up 49-0. Phew. Looks like another long day for UGA next Saturday.

BehindEnemyLines

November 24th, 2012
5:58 pm

Paul in NH — berating those “players” is the very least they deserved. Most should have been left at the stadium & told to find their own way home … along with the “coaching” staff. They’re all lucky they haven’t been arrested on fraud charges, for impersonating D1 players and coaches. It’s not even a good impersonation at this point.

63-39-5

November 24th, 2012
5:59 pm

YellowJacket

November 24th, 2012
5:59 pm

The offense is fine. Just need to work on the defense.

Aubie

November 24th, 2012
6:01 pm

Wow Dawgs will be a no show next week. Them Bama boys know how to really put on a beatdown…..

JB

November 24th, 2012
6:08 pm

Uh oh. Muschamp can’t beat Dawgs or Noles. Who’s next for Gators job

Flagboy

November 24th, 2012
6:08 pm

Paul Johnson is the most awesome coach that has ever coached at Tech! Do not ever impugn this wonderful, brilliant man or my school again mark bradley!!!

Gorilla Biscuit

November 24th, 2012
6:11 pm

That’s what I call GOrilla stomped!! We were merciful.

UGA = Yawn

November 24th, 2012
6:12 pm

Why can’t we get a field goal kicker like the one on FSU????

Bill

November 24th, 2012
6:12 pm

FSU beating UF in 3rd ..20-13..

KBP

November 24th, 2012
6:13 pm

Does Tech have tougher academic standards under CPJ than under Gailey?

JB

November 24th, 2012
6:14 pm

FSU will kill Tech

Tmgotech

November 24th, 2012
6:15 pm

Goof thing we were not playing the Gamecocks. THEY would have beaten us by 60!

Go ‘Bama!!!

Glory Between the Hedges

November 24th, 2012
6:16 pm

Whoever believes alabama is going to run the dawgs over should not be taken serious. Georgia has a handful of guys who are going to be drafted just in the first round. I believe the Dawgs are just better than Bama. We have been waiting a long time for this..Bama is going to be.in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Bill

November 24th, 2012
6:17 pm

I agree JB…
Ala also up on Auburn 48 to 0 in 3rd…UGA better be ready.

rj

November 24th, 2012
6:17 pm

If Paul Johnson had the class of a Mark Richt he would resign as opposed to wait to get fired. But since he won’t resign let’s hope as the dwindling GT fan base that the new AD sends him back to D3 unless there is a high school gig available. I am convinced that he can’t recruit or coach and how much evidence does the administration need to see the same thing everyone sees already? In the absence of an AD the President of GT has an obligation to step in.

Bill

November 24th, 2012
6:18 pm

If you say so Glory….

Rufus

November 24th, 2012
6:19 pm

No. The Sun Belt wouldn’t work. MTSU lives there.

JB

November 24th, 2012
6:20 pm

Johnson is a fraud. Noway Tech with its proud history be that bad. Tech has made him rich. Hes a hillbilly

UGA = Yawn

November 24th, 2012
6:22 pm

Enter your comments here

Jorge O'leary

November 24th, 2012
6:24 pm

Glory Between the Hedges
November 24th, 2012
6:16 pm

Whoever believes alabama is going to run the dawgs over should not be taken serious. Georgia has a handful of guys who are going to be drafted just in the first round. I believe the Dawgs are just better than Bama. We have been waiting a long time for this..Bama is going to be.in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Gloryhole between the hedges, you will be proven wrong against Bama!

MC

November 24th, 2012
6:25 pm

Contract extension anyone? LMAO

steve

November 24th, 2012
6:26 pm

Bradley will be happy again…another coach to try to run out of town.

Meanwhile, it does stink to come face-to-face with what you are…which is a very mediocre program. I hate it for Tech. They deserve better.

Gorilla Biscuit

November 24th, 2012
6:28 pm

Coach Paul Johnson………………gone fishin’. ;)

KBP

November 24th, 2012
6:29 pm

@Bill, Georgia better be ready? Yes and Bama better be ready! Their defense is not the 2009 nor last years defense especially in the secondary and their pass rush is not that great. If we can block them, then Murray and the receivers will make plays against them.

Bill

November 24th, 2012
6:31 pm

Ghost

November 24th, 2012
6:35 pm

Why would PJ berate hos players? Pj should be looking in a mirror and berating himself, Systems will only work if you can recruit players. JOhnson can’t recruit .

gt4861d

November 24th, 2012
6:37 pm

To those who want replace CPJ … replace with who? What makes you think his replacement would be any better? There’s a reason DRad left – those same reasons likely scare off other big-time college football coaches.

I certainly thing ga tech football’s problems are made worse by difficult academic requirements – requirements that SEC schools certainly don’t face. But I don’t think that fully explains Ga Tech’s consistent mediocrity. My guess is that Ga Tech’s lack of a non-alumni fan base, and the resultant empty stadium seats, scare off prospects. I’d also guess that Ga Tech’s non-existent visibility outside of Atlanta (and only partial media coverage in Atlanta – I heard once that there are more auburn alums in metro Atlanta that Tech alums, not to mention uga alums) doesn’t help recruiting.

I spent three years living in Blacksburg – everyone in Virginia knows that Tech. I know it’s an imprecise comparison (Va Tech should be called Va State … that’s really what it is) but that school has some demanding classes and regularly attracts solid talent. What explains the difference? My guess is that Va Tech’s rural/agricultural setting makes it seem “accessible” to the general public, especially in comparison to openly snooty uva. If correct that would suggest that the root of (real) Tech’s football problem lies in it’s promoted sense of (well-deserved) exclusivity.

In summary, I’d argue that the key to understanding why GT football consistently wallows in mediocrity is understanding why DRad left Tech for Climpsun. With that said, I’m not sure Tech is really interested in doing what is necessary to consistently win.

Uh Oh

November 24th, 2012
6:38 pm

Too bad for Tech, CPJ is getting an extension for winning the division.

Buzzman

November 24th, 2012
6:40 pm

Been saying all the time, CPJ cannot recruit, the years he had a decent team was with Gailey’s recruits. Who brought in Big AL? .Doesn’t this tell you that he cannot recruit, he runs a high school offense, and he sure cannot run a defense or special teams. What is it going to take to get rid of him and let’s just start over.

GT10

November 24th, 2012
6:40 pm

My suggestion for the new AD. Join the Big 10 and drop Georgia. You don’t recruit the same type kids so stop the series and only play them if you must in a bowl game.

alex

November 24th, 2012
6:40 pm

Went to MTSU game, it was obvious that GT does not have much talent on defense, small ,slow. Linebackers are not division 1 level and d-back are division 2 level. You really see a HUGE difference when the GT 2nd teamers have to play (GT center could not compete) with GA lineman. CPJ has to go, can’t recruit.

OldGold1964

November 24th, 2012
6:42 pm

The question is not whether he is pleased or not; the questions is: What is he going to do about it?!

Rich

November 24th, 2012
6:46 pm

Well Paul Johnson isn’t happy…Perhaps when he starts coaching then he has the right to say he isn’t happy….It’s not the players that didn’t shoe up it’s the not so good coach….

Uh Oh

November 24th, 2012
6:47 pm

Why is my comment “awaiting moderation”? All I said is Coach Paul Johnson is getting an extension for winning they’re division.

Uh Oh

November 24th, 2012
6:48 pm

Cleary not pleased?

November 24th, 2012
6:49 pm

Take a look at the tape as Johnson runs on the field to align a player properly. This is basic fundamentals that are lacing and that starts at the top. Although grossly overrated on the national scene, it’s no surprise that UGA was clearly superior, better coached and to be quite honest has better players. No whining about the win but they will fold once they reach a team with any real talent. Their schedule has only matched up one talented team (SC) ……. Good luck to them as they take on Saban.

Tech is stuck with PJ until the new AD comes on board. Just the facts. If we want to improve we MUST hire a coach who can recruit and wants to win (Kirby Smart?) but it will cost us. Either pay up or quit whining. Money will buy the talent. The SEC is proof of this.

Tech has dumbed down academically to accommodate athletes so stop with the academic requirement excuses. Although we don’t have housing, home ec, interior design and education degrees we do have the Ivan Allen college and enough worthless degrees to offer athletes.

Love my Jackets and am proud to be a fan. UGA has a superior football program but is an inferior school in multiple areas. I’ll take the nerds any day. Go Jackets!

GT_Ragdoll

November 24th, 2012
6:49 pm

Mom, I’m afraid I’m going to see that big and mean #9 in my dreams….

Paul Johnson

November 24th, 2012
6:50 pm

We don’t need no stinking defense when I’m calling the plays.

Jacket Dad

November 24th, 2012
6:50 pm

Johnson is not pleased?????? Try being a Jacket fan who has a coach that can’t recruit, sees no use in bothering with those silly pass plays since his vaunted offense is so stellar, never gets his team up for a game – must berate them before, during and after, wouldn’t know defense if it hit him in the face and is too egotistical to recognize the games our special teams have cost us over the past few years. Coach Johnson, you are not a complete coach and evidently can’t assemble a team of coaches who can bring it.

Whew, that feels better. I feel for the players, but even they appeared to give up today. Yes, they were outplayed, outcoached, out everything, but dang it, just give it your all!

We are screwed with Johnson’s buyout and contract. But we need a young DC who will light a fire (Johnson can’t), and some coaches who can recruit (Johnson can’t). We need coaches who develop their players – I don’t and haven’t seen it since Johnson has been here.

Good luck getting any of us to travel to Charlotte and wherever we (God help us) go to a bowl. Been there, done that!

Spanky

November 24th, 2012
6:52 pm

Like I said, you guys didn’t have a prayer against this defense! Watching the FSU\Fla game…don’t see ya’ll beating them either!! Good luck in NeverNever-Land! LOL! WE RUN THIS STATE!!….Have a good day!

Paul Johnson

November 24th, 2012
6:52 pm

Did y’all like my 4th and 8 pass to the tackle. I’m so smart.

eddy

November 24th, 2012
6:52 pm

But the smartest man in football, self proclaimed, looked like a doofus today. It never occurs to Johnson that no one else uses his ridiculous offense. If it was so good, most everyone would use it. Sad to see, Tech was once a very good football team….before Johnson. He’ll continue with his goofy offense until the powers decide enough is enough. Can’t cure stupid when stupid is in charge.

Gumbo

November 24th, 2012
6:52 pm

If we can petitions to get back to Division 2, we will be in a helluva position to win every year. D2 coach, D2 players…….

cpj

November 24th, 2012
6:53 pm

So none of the techies who said VL was going to beat down the Dawgs are remembering that now. Your silent apology is accepted.

THWGT

Rick James

November 24th, 2012
6:55 pm

@GTBob

It wasn’t just 5 star players versus 3 star players. That happens every year. This UGA team is probably the most talented team in the country and easily the most talented in UGA history. That is why there there is such a discrepancy. No matter how bad Richt coaches you can’t overcome that
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Well said Bob..

KBP

November 24th, 2012
6:55 pm

CPJ recruits kids who want to play college ball. CMR recruits players who want to play pro ball. The offenses they run show that.

Buzz

November 24th, 2012
6:57 pm

CPJ has never recruited. Tech does not have the horses. We have already won our last game in 2012.
Expand Majors or merge with Georgia State Univ. Why is Georgia funding a 50% Georgia Student ,Specialty Engineering University when all Major Universities including UGA (800 in Engineering Now) and Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Clemson, Florida, Etc. teach Engineering. A waste of our Georgia tax dollars. Expand or go private.

cpj

November 24th, 2012
6:57 pm

KBP

November 24th, 2012
6:55 pm

CPJ recruits kids who want to play college ball. CMR recruits players who want to play pro ball. The offenses they run show that.
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It is really sad that you believe this to be true.

Truther

November 24th, 2012
6:58 pm

In 2008 a sports columnist for the AJC wrote something akin to “GT’s program under Paul Johnson was on the rise and UGA under Mark Richt was on the decline”.

He is still a sports columnist for the AJC.

Sierra Dawg

November 24th, 2012
7:01 pm

And how, exactly, are you going to recruit those 4- and 5-star players? Take them for a stroll through your magnificent stadium that’s about half the size of UGA’s? You know, the Joke by Coke – that you can’t even fill unless it’s packed with Bulldogs once every other year. Maybe you emphasize the exposure of playing in the mighty ACC instead of that OTHER conference. OK, maybe not a good idea. Possibly have GTBob regale them with the history of the glory days of Tech football post-Vietnam? Yeah, that would leave a lot of awkward time on everyone’s hands. Maybe let them hold your 1990 national championship trophy for a while? Just don’t tell them that there are 2 others for the same year sitting in a trophy case in Boulder, CO.

So, again, how do you convince a blue-chipper to come to Tech? What do you sell? Especially now. Seriously.

PSW

November 24th, 2012
7:01 pm

The solution for Tech, football-wise, is to get back into the SEC. Would take time and cost money, but it would up the ability of the program eventually, esp. with recruits, as well as drawing those non-Tech Atlanta fans and their sweet, sweet money to Grant Field. Thinking of the Big Ten is a mistake, if someone is, because non-Tech Atlanta fans may care about the teams coming in, but I don’t think the rest of us would.

I deeply love Tech in ACC basketball and woud hate to leave it, but the only way Tech will ever be reliably competent, year in, year out, on the football field again is to somehow get back into the SEC. Then the academic program becomes a draw–a challenge a reasonably bright top kid should want to conquer, a degree in Management that opens the way to future business sucess after college or the NFL (and business is the way to family uplifting), as well as playing in the best football conference in the nation. It would turn a “weakness” into a strength.

Woud also keep the GT-Georgia thing from dying, which is probably likely the more non-Crackers move into state, who didn’t grow up with it.

KBP

November 24th, 2012
7:04 pm

cpj, I am not one to take shots at Tech so tell me why what I posted is wrong. Very few of CPJ’s recruits get drafted and lots of CMR’s get drafted.

ramguy68

November 24th, 2012
7:04 pm

The experiment should be over.. This offense can’t win consistently at this level. They win some games and make some good teams look bad sometimes. They just can’t get on a long run and win 8 or 9 games in a row. Plus it hurts recruiting in the long run.

Rick James

November 24th, 2012
7:05 pm

I often wondered why Georgia fans always called CPJ” coach “fish fry” I forgot that remark.What I always say to people is the way Paul Johnson comes off to the press and in the media is the way he comes off to recruits and their parents.He is the real reason Tech’s talent is so far below Georgia’s not academics..He simply does have the people skills to sell Georgia Tech football to top knotch players.

GTJohn

November 24th, 2012
7:06 pm

Why does everyone think Bama is going to kill the Dawgs. I think it will be a close game and the Dawgs have a good chance to win. Bama can be beat.

BILLY JACK

November 24th, 2012
7:07 pm

Georgia could of made that score anything it wanted-just got back from the game and tech needs to somehow get out of the ACC championship game-tech may never beat UGA again in my lifetime and Florida is putting a beatdown on FSU-so much for all these tech football experts.

Bryan

November 24th, 2012
7:08 pm

Unless Tech is get lucky enough to get in a really bad bowl, they won’t win another game this year.

AtlantaNative62

November 24th, 2012
7:09 pm

UGAly not only has MUCH better talent, they are much more physical. They have an “attitude” that borders on being dirty. They flat out kicked our a$$es and we (Tech) buckled under the vicious hitting. The worst part about the a$$-whooping is we just stood there and took it. Over and over again. UGAly was throwing around our players like they were rag dolls. Nobody on the Tech side stepped up for a teammate who got slammed. They literally stood there and watched on multiple occasions. That is UNACCEPTABLE. Not to sound like an old coach but I always want to win. But if we can’t, at a minimum we have to compete! We are getting a rep of being quitters. Again, UNACCEPTABLE! Our guys – almost all of them – just don’t do the hitting. They take hits (or avoid them) and they were simply abused today. Even our star offensive player – Orwin Smith – pulls up (or runs out of bounds) before getting hit. Someone needs to let these kids know that while the offense requires finesse, finesse and being physial are not mutually exclusive.

Coach, it is time to hire a big time D-coordinator who will REQUIRE this team to be physical. We looked silly today on defense. On one fourth and 1, we were not even lined up for the play. I’m surprised UGAly didn’t score we were so disorganized. That is coaching and unfortunately our defense looks like it is simply trying not to screw up rather than play fast and knowing their roles. We made “first game” mistakes in the 12th game. HORRIBLE!

Coach, while you are making changes, it is time to shake up our recruiting as well. Please understand I’m not picking on these kids. I support them. Feel for them. But they need better coaching and better talent along side of them.

I am very proud of the way the team rallied to put themselves in position to be in the ACC title game. They could have quit on the entire season. But they didn’t. Now, they have to learn not to quit in a game EVER. After Godhigh fumbled early, that game was over. Tech quit right then and there.

GTJohn

November 24th, 2012
7:09 pm

Vad should have started. To come in when you are 21 down is not a vote of confidence.

GT10

November 24th, 2012
7:11 pm

Look at how many players recruited by PJ have been drafted. Don’t even say Stephen Hill……..he was committed to GT before Johnson was hired. Gailey had pro prospects as players….GT at this time does not.

Abe

November 24th, 2012
7:11 pm

The Hill is supporting GT to be an international college like MIT, so why not join the D3 football league MIT plays in.

Rick James

November 24th, 2012
7:12 pm

@GTBob

O’Leary was granted a multitude of academic exemptions which eventually led to flunk gate. He is part of the reasons Tech will never be competitive again.
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Get off that academic crutch Bob..Tech has the lowest graduation rate for football in the ACC.Paul Johnson is signing the mensa members that you say he is..

Old Dawg

November 24th, 2012
7:13 pm

Johnson always blames his players for losses but as a Dawg fan…we hope Tech keeps him forever!!

jim

November 24th, 2012
7:14 pm

I am not a coach and do not pretend to be one. having said that, the offense that Tech runs makes no sense. It is normally predicated on having a strong defense that keeps the other team off the field and then ground control on offense. No defense – NO OFFENSE.
As a Dawgs fan, I like what Tech does. If I were a Tech fan, I would want a refund and a new coaching staff. Just sayin.

bigdawg88

November 24th, 2012
7:14 pm

Florida and their no offense is whupping fl st. What say you now acc folk?

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
7:17 pm

Tech fans; your thoughts on the overrated SEC :)

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
7:18 pm

Tech fans how about the rough and tough ACC :)

GTBob Your thoughts?????

The Good Word

November 24th, 2012
7:21 pm

To Hell With Georgia!

bigdawg88

November 24th, 2012
7:22 pm

Tech’s offense isn’t really the problem, the defense is. Why can’t they recruit better? Actually, you would think they could get better qbs with all the qbs in this state. Think you have seen the best cpj has to offer. Time for a change. When was the last real recruiting battle between uga and gt for a good player?

Mama Says

November 24th, 2012
7:22 pm

What you folks dont get is that Techs record under CPJ is still better than it was under Gailey.

Tech is in dire striats when it comes to money. We have 50 milliion in new buildings to pay for and we cannot afford to pay a coach not to be here.

I still dont feel its as bad as it may seem though. We have a very good QB next year, two top rated linemen coing in and a lot of very good redshirts. We just need a d cordinator and it will get better. God knows it cant get worse.

By the way I totally agree with CPJ’s attitude. Someone posted that he couldnt get his team to show up , are you serious ? he shouldnt have to do anything to get a team to show up in a rivalry game. Dfense acted as if they werent intersted in hitting or thinking, as they have done all year, they were timid and spent all game backing up rather than attacking.

DawgFan

November 24th, 2012
7:22 pm

Great game by the Dawgs today. We could have scored all we wanted but class got in the way which was a good thing.

Tech football program is a shambles. Techsters I work with spend all this time arguing about which QB should start. They both stink but are probably about all the talent Tech has. Why would a top recruit entertain playing in that incredibly boring offense or for that inferior defense that has nothing to practice against? Meanwhile Dawgs are loading up another great class and may beat Tech another 10 straight. Lifetime contract for CPJ would be awesome

Top Academic Schools

November 24th, 2012
7:23 pm

Stanford, Michigan, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, UCLA, USC, Miami, etc are all ranked as high or higher academically than Ga Tech. And they field competitive football teams. You have no excuse.

And Georgia is getting almost as good academically. Soon they’ll have a legitimate engineering program. You have no excuse. Poor little guys.

Sierra Dawg

November 24th, 2012
7:25 pm

Dawgs pound Bugs, Gators embarrass Noles. One more SEC>ACC buttwhipping to go, and the day will be complete. Well, almost complete – ND could graciously lose and provide a BCS tomorrow with the SEC 1, 2, 3. That would be guaranteed to cause most of the rest of the country to bang their heads against the wall in frustration at the prospect of another all-SEC title game. Gotta love it!

Just Saying

November 24th, 2012
7:26 pm

Time for Johnson to go… He and Curry are past their prime and are legends in their own minds..State could have beaten the bee’s today….Just Saying….

mgdawg

November 24th, 2012
7:27 pm

I remember when Johnson started at tech the belief was the offense would get better as he recruited players fit for his scheme, it seems like that isn’t the case. Talent is talent, chan gailey recruited more talent then what Johnson can. The problem comes down to the offense. The offense is Johnson’s love child, if the team plays bad all you hear is his slam the defense and never the offense. He recruits for the offense, not the defense. The defense can’t have a good scout team because all the offensive players are built for his offense, not a pro style offense which most people run.

Having said all that, please keep him. Soon we may be putting him in UGA’s ring of honor with reggie ball.

JetBuzz

November 24th, 2012
7:32 pm

All the great coaches like Bryant, Lombardi, etc., seemed to embody leadership, charisma, inspiration, even above their football prowess.

CMR probably doesn’t excel in CFB fundamentals/game-day execution/etc., but he DOES excel in recruiting, player development/mentoring (to those not jailed or expelled), and program building. He delegates much of on-field mechanics to his assistants. And because UGA’s working with 4/5 Star players, this is working VERY WELL. It hasn’t always — in the past he attempted to run the offense like CPJ does now. His current “CEO” style of coaching has UGA on top this year.

GT’s downturn debacle is on the entire organization, from the President, AD (RAD who vanished out the back door), CPJ/staff, and YES the players. It’s time to rebuild.

Great movie: We Are Marshall – about the 1970 DC-9 crash/loss of the entire Marshall Univ football team/coaches, and the rebuilding from that tragedy a new organization starting from ground zero.

Rebuilding GT’s program could be much quicker and easier than Marshall’s daunting task, but the same fundamentals exist. Vision, leadership, motivation, recruiting, execution. Past time to start.

Dawgs '94

November 24th, 2012
7:34 pm

What happened to all those Tech people telling Georgia people, “Get use to it!” after Tech won in Bitter Beer Face Johnson’s 1st season?

Show me your TD's

November 24th, 2012
7:35 pm

Face it folks, If you were a high shool qb, would you really want to go to TECH just to hand the ball off…Only recruits he is getting, are RB’s and QB’s who cant throw. With this offense he is limiting the players that will have an interest in coming to TECH.. Now GA State is in the picture, thank goodness Curry, ran that program into the ground with the help of former TECH offensive corr.(BOND). and it will give us a couple of years to rebuild with a new coach..The high school/pop warner offense he is running is running the fan base out of the stadium… Time for Johnson to follow Curry.. and leave….

Sierra Dawg

November 24th, 2012
7:37 pm

PSW, are you serious?! Tech left the SEC in the 60s, and it was a bitter thing. Just on ill will alone, Tech doesn’t have a snowball’s chance of getting a sniff from the SEC. That aside, why would the other school presidents even entertain the notion of re-admitting Tech? What would that bring to the table? A vast following and more TV money? Right. One Vandy in the conference is enough. What little credibility Tech football has left would be demolished after a couple of years playing an SEC schedule. This year, maybe you could beat Kentucky. Maybe. Ole Miss, Mizzou, possibly even. The remainder of the league would either beat you or annihilate you. Like today.

Adderal we've been thru

November 24th, 2012
7:37 pm

So if today’s performance is any indication for next week, I’m not going. Our two minute offense takes us 20 minutes to run….

Rick James

November 24th, 2012
7:39 pm

@Mama Says

What you folks dont get is that Techs record under CPJ is still better than it was under Gailey
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What you dont get is Gailey recruited better players than Johnson.Name one projected first round draft choice on Tech’s team.Did you see the difference in talent between Tech and Georgia today? The last time Tech beat Georgia Paul Johnson did it with who’s players? Gaileys!! Name two players that Jonson has recruited who are as good as Derrick Morgan and Morgan Burnette even Jonathan Dwyer.None!!

DawgFan

November 24th, 2012
7:40 pm

Dang JetBuzz y’all didn’t have a plane crash, just hired Paul Johnson. Oh I see your point

Edge770

November 24th, 2012
7:51 pm

Another game that shows both GT Administration and GT Athletics want us to believe that football and athletics is at a loss, and we should lower our athletic standards. We can’t fire Paul Johnson, but we can, force to get a new GT AD and admin that allows us to get back to atleast be competitive against Georgia. Not expecting over powering, but this lack of competitiveness is simply unacceptable. Time for GT associates to come in and get a new leadership team that knows how to to get from point a to point b.

Draggin Fly

November 24th, 2012
7:54 pm

@mama says: “Tech is in dire striats when it comes to money. We have 50 milliion in new buildings to pay for and we cannot afford to pay a coach not to be here.”

And yet we hear over and over again “1 out of 6 Tech grads is a millionaire”. Stingy ones, I guess when it comes to the athletic dept.

Take The Wheel

November 24th, 2012
8:01 pm

…tough loss. But the world is not gonna come to an end people. So what, the dawgs won. I could run down a list of things that probably contributed… but what matter does it make at this point.

We do have bigger fish to fry. Beating the dawgs is one thing, but we have a shot at the ACC title and possibly another shot at UGA. … Cause I seriously doubt they beat Alabama for the SEC title and shot at national…

Lets not implode!

Pope UGA XXIII

November 24th, 2012
8:04 pm

It would appear that PSW snorted several lines of Draino today !!!
Tech coming back to the SEC will happen the day after Obama becomes
a fiscal conservative. To add to Sierra Dawg’s comment, Bobby Dodd may
have made the worst mistake of his career when he left the SEC because
he did not want to play the low attendance schools which included Vandy,
Ole Miss, Miss State, & Kentucky. The plan to keep their own revenue
ended shortly after the Falcons started in the NFL. There is no financial
reason whatsoever for Tech to ever be readmitted. You can start with the
fact that Grant Field holds less than it did 50 years ago. The Atlanta TV
market is well in hand with UGA and several other SEC schools.
Maryland saw the opportunity and left for the Big Ten. Syracuse and
Pitt won’t have the turnstiles spinning that’s for sure. There’s no doubt
whatsoever about the ACC being a top tier basketball conference, but
only Clemson, FSU, and Virginia Tech draw the big crowds for football.
Enjoy your life in the Almost Competitive Conference.

Ga Fan Here

November 24th, 2012
8:11 pm

The Triple Option will work, but you need higher ranked players to run it. You need a QB who is willing to take a beating & can throw the ball well. If he can throw it & is a really good runner, he does want to run the Triple Option? He wants to go where he can run the Spread or a Pro type offense. You need good receivers, but do they want 0 to 3 balls thrown to them in a game? No, they want to play in another type offense. You need talented offensive lineman, but do they want to play in the Triple Option, well no. You don’t really do that type of blocking in the NFL. It should be banned. You need really good defensive players. Do they want to play where the defensive scheme, & Coaches are in constant flux? —–Well no. About the highest rated players you can hope to get is a punter & a kicker. The Triple Option will work , with better than average players like Chan Gailey recruited(But you still can’t compete for a NC). But it won’t work with 2-star Players that an arrogant Coach thinks he can coach up to 4 & 5 Star Players. Steve Savage, the former sucessful Commerce HS Coach was interviewed once about the Wishbone Offense he ran. He said” It’s all I know.” He played it in HS, ran it as an Assit. Coach, & then as a Head Coach. The Triple Option is all Paul Johnson knows, but he is not as savy as Coach Savage was.

1990_Champs_GT

November 24th, 2012
8:11 pm

One more nail in Johnson’s coffin. Two more this season.

Can’t wait until midseason next year when they fire him.

And to Bradley, Shultz and all others who say Tech can’t afford to axe Oscar the Grouch I say they can’t afford not to. How many butts will be in the seats to watch them next year?

Just saying…

CaliDawg

November 24th, 2012
8:11 pm

17 out of 21…and weren’t 3 of those 4 with illegal/ineligible players? And if GT fans deny that there are two different levels of specific core classes – toward engineering and management degrees – you need to check that out. And how many of the athletes at GT are engineering majors? Get real.

fan

November 24th, 2012
8:11 pm

What a pathetic bunch this Georgia Tech team is . They should be put on probation for accepting the bid to play in the ACC Championship game. This bunch of chop blockers are one of the worst teams in college football. The entire conference is a joke. I can’t believe Florida State have sullied their reputation by staying in this conference of losers. OF course Bowden had the reputation of beating up on losers to move up in the rankings.

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
8:13 pm

GTBob

will you be at this years presentation of the ACC Championship Trophy to this years winning team The SEC ;)

terry

November 24th, 2012
8:14 pm

Its time for a change. Johnson is still confident in his own ignorance. I know every play he is going to run and so does any other decent defensive coach. Also there will never be a passing game because good quarterbacks will not go to a program that relies on the triple option.

Jefferson Davis Hogg

November 24th, 2012
8:15 pm

Just an opinion here GT fans and I’m not slamming your offensive system with my comments but high school football players for the most part don’t want to run the TO. They feel like it doesn’t prepare them for the next level. Also defensive players don’t like practicing against it! I spoke with a highly touted recruit recently who is now at Alabama but was recruited heavily by UGA and GT and he told me point blank ” I didn’t want to practice against their offence every day” Both UGA and GT recruit the same players quite often and many of last years UGA class were recruited by GT. I hate to say it, and I’ve even said it about my teams coach, but I think CPJ is your problem. You guys can, and always have gotten a few top notch recruits regularly through the years to be more competitive and still can with the right coach and system…Just my opinion and we all know what they say about those……..Go Dawgs!

DIT

November 24th, 2012
8:16 pm

How can a team feel good about playing in their biggest rivalry game just to look up in the stands and see hardly any of their fan base at the game.
When UF was stomping UGA they still sold out their alotted tickets. It’s not so much the team that is sorry, its the fan base if you ask me.

Dumbo

November 24th, 2012
8:17 pm

DEP….this was a very one-sided game….does Tech, with all those super brains, know anything about recruiting big cornbread eating beheomths and fast attacking linebackers to play defense? Just wondering Coach Johnson, uh, it appears that everybody Tech plays has bigger, stronger and faster players on Defense, why????????????????

blazer

November 24th, 2012
8:17 pm

Left at least 17 points on the field today! No denfense at all! Guess Fla. and Vandy are their big wins for the year!! Roll Tide!!

doiknowu

November 24th, 2012
8:19 pm

@Truther: Yep, and that same columnist wrote in 2010, after UGA won yet again, that despite the loss Tech fans were “giddy” over their brilliant coach, how he had outsmarted ole Richt yet again. Why, they had gained more yards than Georgia! Who cared about the score? The genius coach had lost by only eight points!

The fans don’t seem too giddy anymore.

Do they, Mark?

Stinger 2

November 24th, 2012
8:20 pm

What is hard to understand about the score being 42-10 is that GT TOP was 39.56
vs UGA 20.04. So the GT offense controls the ball for two-thirds of the game with defense being on field one-third. I did not see the game. Why could we not score but 10 points after running so many more plays. I realize the turnovers hurt but what else
caused such a disparity in the score. Was it mostly that UGA scored at will on big plays?

Big Jim

November 24th, 2012
8:21 pm

If you still think the morons triple flopsion will work in big boy football, you are a f’ing idiot and simply do not understand the game of football.

SRF

November 24th, 2012
8:21 pm

At least the GT players had enough class not to grab a kid half their size by the helmet/face mask and try to snap his neck for fun.

TXJacket

November 24th, 2012
8:23 pm

Until we add majors and the hill lowers there standards, we will never be relevant and able to recruit the 5* recruits for football. Which way do you want it??? The prestige or the “C” level majors???

To play with the big programs of the SEC or Big10 etc…, well have to allow anybody and everybody, the what will our degrees mean???? ZERO just like everybody else!!!!

Cheer on the team or GO AWAY!!!! I hate haters!!

Techster

November 24th, 2012
8:24 pm

Who needs tickets?

5 star

November 24th, 2012
8:25 pm

Five star athlete don’t go to tech, they don’t go to many schools in the south that are not in the SEC. It’s not tech it’s the location- in the heart of the SEC. A five star is thinking pro not education- not to say some don’t get an education of value. Most would rather go to Vandy and play SEC than play in any other conference. That is why the SEC has won the NC so many years in in row.

dawgfan

November 24th, 2012
8:25 pm

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
8:25 pm

Please Tech sign coach Fish Fry to 10 more years

Brewmaster

November 24th, 2012
8:29 pm

Hey TxJacket, stop making excuses about academic standards. Tell us how Stanford and Notre Dame are doing so well. How did Bobby Ross have so much success ? Maybe because he was a GREAT coach who ran an NFL calibre offense.

Ted M

November 24th, 2012
8:29 pm

Thanks for telling it like it is Mark. My only qualm is that you were too kind in your assessment of Johnson’s recruiting.

Herschel Talker

November 24th, 2012
8:30 pm

WHERE ARE GTBOB AND GOLDENROD????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

42-10. HAVE FUN IN SHREVEPORT!!!!!!!!

bryce

November 24th, 2012
8:31 pm

PJ gets out coached against all good teams. He only wins against teams that have less talent than we do. PJ is unable to come up with a game plan, because he doesn’t want to carry any type of card on the sideline, so he just calls anything that pops in his head at the time.

Andre "Pulpwood" Smith

November 24th, 2012
8:31 pm

Enjoy another nuclear winter, Techies. And give me your lunch money.

Techster

November 24th, 2012
8:31 pm

Looks like I will be cheering on other favorite team next week! Roll Tide!

dawgfan

November 24th, 2012
8:31 pm

4 years ago Tech fans were running their fat mouths about a “New Sheriff In Town” and how Paul Johnson was going to own UGA. Now its back to the same tired sore loser excuses about academics and degree requirements. Funny how you don’t here any of this crybaby crap BEFORE a UGA game. Tech fans only want to talk about football and are all mouth.

Tech fans are just sad.

Ted M

November 24th, 2012
8:33 pm

I didn’t see the press conference but I bet “jerk” could have been used instead of “sardonic”.

Dawg89

November 24th, 2012
8:33 pm

New rule: If a division champion doesn’t have a winning record, the conference can replace that team with a higher ranked team, without regard to division, for the championship game.

Bet they never envisioned a 6-6 team playing in the championship game. That has to be good for TV ratings.

Realistic fan

November 24th, 2012
8:34 pm

All you Tech fans need to chill and get realistic. First, yes Tech is a very good school-for those who want to be engineers or a few other specialized degrees. Get over it. Georgia is a very good school also for those who want non technical degrees, or pre-med, or law, or to become teachers. And how about all the journalists and tv grads? Get over it. Everyone does not want to be engineers. Both good schools. Quit the whining when you lose. You always say you have won more NC’s so what changed? And you are not any better than Stanford academically and they get good players. And need I mention no school is worse than you in graduation rates for it’s athletes. Get a grip, quit making excuses and man up.

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
8:34 pm

According to GTBob

The SEC was way overrated

what happened

Techster

November 24th, 2012
8:35 pm

The TV announcers commented again today how CPJ didn’t carry charts and just had it all in his head. Newsflash, people, there is nothing in his head…

Ted M

November 24th, 2012
8:38 pm

I don’t think Johnson gives a crap about special teams; I wonder if Drad made him hire a ST coordinator.

Al Bundy

November 24th, 2012
8:39 pm

This beating was very hard to watch and a huge disappointment. If you look at all of the ACC vs. SEC match up’s today it’s pretty sad. The ACC was man handled today. (Clemson is leading SC right now but they have plenty of time to join the club and fold). GT and the rest of the ACC is very weak and could not compete in the SEC. The sad truth is, GT has little hope of getting better in the forseeable future. CPJ is here to stay and the damage he will cause and has caused to this program will take years to correct. He sees UGA as just another team and doesn’t understand how important this game is to the program. CMR get’s it and it shows. UGA was well prepared to exploit the GT defense weaknesses and the executed to perfection. You UGA trolls should be thankful you have the coaching staff you have, they’re winners. I feel bad for our team… they deserve better!

[...] Bradley: Jackets pull no-show; Johnson not pleased [...]

hind tit

November 24th, 2012
8:40 pm

How can a defense do anything but get worse every year if they practice against an offense like Tech runs. If a change is not made then walk on players will make up the team in the near future. The only practice they get is on game day. As long as cpj uses this offense no top notch offensive or defensive players will come to Tech because neither one will be coached up for the next level. I honestly believe Georgia Southern could beat Tech. The buck stops with cpj. He needs to go before it’s to late. I don’t have a dog in this fight but the good players are not going to come as long as this type football is on the flats.

Ted M

November 24th, 2012
8:40 pm

I concur Realistic fan.

NBYK

November 24th, 2012
8:41 pm

Tech looks like some Jr. college. No, worse some high school team. Big offense lines, Big defense lines, and BIG running backs win games. Now, Go get the tide dogs.

TXJacket

November 24th, 2012
8:42 pm

Brewmaster, Do your homework!! Until this year when has ND been relevant. Stanford has had a couple good years in the past 10. ND is a private school and can allow whom ever they want into school. They probably have 20+ more majors than we do and the same goes for Stanford and there major.

Which way do you want it!

Lets see what was Bobby Ross record?? I think he had 1 good year? 1990 and 2012 are totally different, players are different!!!

Smyrna Gold

November 24th, 2012
8:42 pm

TOP is a very misleading stat. When the opposition can score at will who cares about TOP. Sorta like most first downs and rushing yardage. Heck, you have to score and stop the other team sometime.

Really

November 24th, 2012
8:45 pm

It seems to me that UGA is to Tech as Tech is to Duke, meaning twice the budget, fans, talent level.
One win every 10-15 years by the underdog.

Smyrna Gold

November 24th, 2012
8:45 pm

Well said Al Bundy.

You have to get athletes

November 24th, 2012
8:45 pm

28 yr season ticket holder at UGA, live here in Athens, etc… and have to say that today was sweet.
Ghost, you’re right, it’s scholar, not…whatever scloar is. And yes, we have more Fulbright and Rhodes
scholars than Tech. After the engineering school that the governor approved is open over here, y’all will see that part of your bragging rights fade as well as students who don’t want to learn engineering in a war zone, and professors who don’t want to teach in one, make their way to Athens.
I feel for you GT fans, Johnson just won’t admit that he’s not the genius he believes and he CAN’T win without good athletes, and further, good athletes want to play in a pro style offense. It’s not his fault that the kids want to go play in the NFL. Oh, and good luck with the new ‘no cut block’ rule in NCAA football. As always, HBTD

Hold up fellas

November 24th, 2012
8:45 pm

I am so sick of Tech fans talking about their “academic” standards. Here some inside info for you guys: my cousin tutored a couple of the 1st team Tech players. These guys are handed their grades, reports done for them, crib notes for relevant tests, and classes that are at a high school level at best. So give me a break about how unfair it is for your players compared to the stupid UGA guys. If you play football for a college football team you are not their for the academics

Hold up fellas

November 24th, 2012
8:46 pm

obviously there were some grammatic errors too so please lay off the flaming

ATL

November 24th, 2012
8:50 pm

@TxJackets….standards will never be lowered! Board of Regents controls all of the programs. Hence UGA getting an engineering program. BOR will never give GT any competitive advantage. They are all UGA graduates! Isn’t it funny how GT was so competitive before the black athlete came into play.

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
8:50 pm

Coach Johnson would like to invite everyone to this years annual 2012 “Keep the North Ave Crime Down Fish Fry”

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
8:50 pm

The SEC was way overrated

What happened to change that? UGA beat one of the worst teams in college football?

1990_Champs_GT

November 24th, 2012
8:51 pm

At the beginning of the season, it was real improvement or bust for GT. It’s bust and now heads will roll. Everyone knows why the AD left: He couldn’t scrap up the money to buy Johnson out, they’re still paying Paul Hewitt after all.

No true Tech fan should go to the ACC Championship game or the Sun Bowl (unless they are family). Don’t buy Yellow Jacket merchandise this Christmas. Don’t buy 2013 season tickets. Vote with your your $. It’s all that the new AD and the school will understand.

Let them know the true fans are why they have a program in the first place!

Mark Bradley

November 24th, 2012
8:52 pm

I don’t know why so many posts are going to moderation. I’ll endeavor to see if I can find out.

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
8:52 pm

WHERE ARE GTBOB AND GOLDENROD?????

Ive been here all day. Actually, where have you been? Have you been using a different name recently or something?

Stinger

November 24th, 2012
8:53 pm

We are now the 3rd best college team in ga. What has pj been doing? Certainly not recruiting..

Brewmaster

November 24th, 2012
8:55 pm

Txjacket, I just looked up Ross’s record at Tech. His first 2 years were awful. His last 3 were 7-4. 11-0-1( won National Chanpionship), and 8-5. His success propelled him into a successful NFL career. My point is, Tech has had many great years during their football history. And all those coaches had the same recruiting challenges, but succeeded any way. The reason Tech is declining is because they have a TERRIBLE coach !

old dog

November 24th, 2012
8:56 pm

Everyone is missing the point. Why would any 4 or 5 star prospect want to go to Tech? They play in a second rate conference Fla beat FSU today. Two loosers are playing for the ACCC. Who wants to go to school in Atlanta? Who wants to play in a high school scheme that is constantly changing the DC? Who wants there son to play for Mr. Personality Who wants to take calculus?
I rest my case.

GT wreck

November 24th, 2012
8:57 pm

I don’t mean to go on a rant here, but…

Georgia Tech’s offense is fine. CPJ knows how to score points. Our production wasn’t good today, but we’re still among the top in the nation week after week.

That said, offense is less than half of the team that CPJ coaches. With a top offense but crap defense, special teams and no fire, you’re only going to get mediocre results… Which is exactly where we are: 6-6 at season end.

Which leads me to special teams… I don’t understand why we can’t find a single pansy out there who knows how to kick a ball straight? Go find an ex soccer player and stick a helmet on it’s head. Recruit someone from high school who’s worth a crap — don’t just let the position be filled by this week’s least worthless walk-on. Those points count.

@JetBuzz’s comment about CMR being more of a CEO-like and not trying to run the details is great.

With CPJ being a full time offensive coordinator, who’s out there doing the job of the head coach?… Being the face of the team, recruiting, getting the right staff on board, building a complete team? My guess is that CPJ leaves that stuff up to the AD… oh, wait…

JALETTE

November 24th, 2012
8:57 pm

Is it not passed time for Paul Johnson to go????? He is a nice person and was a pretty good coach, but let us be realistic.

frank

November 24th, 2012
8:57 pm

did he have bigger fish to fry?

Old Fashioned

November 24th, 2012
8:58 pm

One has to be REALLY OLD (as I am) to remember that 60 years ago GT’s version of Mark Richt was Bobby Dodd and Georgia had a version of Paul Johnson (Wally Butts).

Ted M

November 24th, 2012
8:59 pm

My nephew tutored Caleb King as Jr in college he didn’t know how many zeros there were in the number 1,000,000. They should be teaching these kids life skills and basics and stop with pretentious notion that all kids seeking a profession in pro-athletics need calculus or micro-economics.

Tocooa Dawg

November 24th, 2012
9:00 pm

SEC East beats ACC Champ

UGA Season Ticket Holder since 1986

November 24th, 2012
9:00 pm

This game was over when during warmups Tech did not come to the middle of the field for the traditional jumping around and trash talking just hoping that nobody throws a puch. It has been well staged and choreographed the past four years but today Tech just stayed way down at the end of the field while Georgia waited at mid-field. When it was clear that Tech would not pick up the gaunlet, the Georgia players just walked off (a little disappointed that Tech wasn’t even going to try to stand up to them jaw to jaw this year). Tech looked whipped from that moment on.

[...] This post is an adjunct to the Georgia Tech column off today’s game, which can be found here. [...]

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
9:01 pm

How did Bobby Ross have so much success ?

He went 31-26-1. If not for his one miracle season he would have been one of the worst coaches in GT history. Here are recent winning percentages for GT coaches:

CPJ: 61%
Chan: 58%
O’Leary: 61%
Lewis: 37%
Ross: 53%
Curry: 40%

Yet all UGA fans are convinced that CPJ is the only reason that GT is not a competitive team. They refuse to believe that it may be an issue with GT and not just an issue with CPJ.

old dog

November 24th, 2012
9:03 pm

Why would any 4 or 5 star prospect want to go to Tech. Micky Mouse offense, Atlanta (that says enough), Lousey conference (Fla beat FSU) to loosers playing for the ACC Championship. Plus you get to play for Coach Personality and take calculus. Enough said. .

1990_Champs_GT

November 24th, 2012
9:04 pm

Dawg fans should be proud. They ate their cupcake.

But now the Tide rolls in and they will drown. Live it up Pound Puppies, Saban isn’t going to let his team blink against a second rate SEC team like UGA!

Dog kicker

November 24th, 2012
9:04 pm

One of two things eather 1. The tech coaching staff is not recruiting the athletes to compete with the top programs or 2. The coaching staff is not coaching the kids up. Now Coach please answer which one it is and let the fans know WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!!!!

rj

November 24th, 2012
9:07 pm

come on MB, call the administration and ask them why Paul Johnson is still there. AJC is a good place for journalism. just saying………..

Jack Wood

November 24th, 2012
9:10 pm

The players quit on Coach Johnson and just laid down. Despicable behavior for any sports team.

old dog

November 24th, 2012
9:11 pm

I remember Bobby Dodd and Wally Butts (Went to school with Bobby Jr.) Lived next door to Spec Landrum I also rember all of the prospects Tech sent to Baylor Prep to get them in school. I also played with and against to of the dumbest players I have ever known. They both went to tech. So please let’s keep it on the field. Tech will never beat the DAWGS with the program they have now.

Ed

November 24th, 2012
9:11 pm

Tech moved the ball well at times and have some tough kids in the offensive backfield and O-line. What I can’t figure out is how their defense can be so soft, especially against the run. Don’t they practice against that offense? You’d think it would harden them up some. Gurshall owned them.

1990_Champs_GT

November 24th, 2012
9:12 pm

GTBob, the culture is the problem. I agree with some of these UGA fans that there are many strikes against us in recruiting, but a special coach, someone who can inspire and build a program can overcome those things. Look at Boise State. Who the F wants to play there?

It is on the shoulders of the new AD to find that man. It clearly isn’t Johnson, but there are great coaches out there who could turn this around.

Sierra Dawg

November 24th, 2012
9:12 pm

If that’s true, and we’re second-rate SEC, what does that say about Tech? If Richt hadn’t pulled the starters in Q3, it would have been 68-3. You really think Bama or LSU or Florida could have beaten you worse? Open mouth, insert foot.

Brewmaster

November 24th, 2012
9:12 pm

GTBob, Ross’s winning pct his first 2 years was 23 %. His last 3 was 73 %. Even a UGA grad can figure out that Ross had the team heading in the right direction. Do you see ANY NFL team wanting to hire MOOBS ?

Hap Hines

November 24th, 2012
9:13 pm

People can whine about academics at Tech all they want but in the end it ’s all about the coaching and recruiting. Stanford and Notre Dame come to mind, they don’t just let anybody in but they seem to be doing ok. As long as Paul Johnson is at Tech this is all you’re going to get. No highly recruited high school player wants to technically extend his “high school” career in the hood of Atlanta.

Ga Fan Here

November 24th, 2012
9:14 pm

Well, had you rather be playing AL for a shot at the NC at 11-1 or playing FL State for the ACC at 6-6. So what if AL beats us(And I don’t know that they will). It is still a pretty good yr. Win the Bowl & you are 12-2. Now who at Tech wouldn’t take a 12 win season, with a loss to SC & AL. Don’t tell me that you would not trade seasons.

The REAL Phil

November 24th, 2012
9:14 pm

The reason Tech can’t recruit is CPJ. Playing college football anywhere is hard. Who’d want to play for someone who treats his players like PJ does? Last Tech play of the game, the QB has 360+ pounds of red jersey in his face as soon as he receives the snap. All Bart Starr could have done was heave the ball in the general direction. But PJ begins dressing down the poor QB before he can get to the sideline and follows the poor kid to the bench to continue the butt chewing. Then right after the game he continues his screaming so others could here him? Considering all the work that Ga Tech the school entails, plus football, who would want to subject themselves to that abuse by his coach?

Todd Grantham chews his players hard. The difference it they know he cares about them. They don’t get chewed unless they deserve it and there is a reason for it. He cares about and respects his players, he respects them and they return it. Tech players don’t respect the coach, who would? That’s why he can’t recruit. It’s got nothing to do with academics, location, facilities, stadium. It has all to do with a teenager who is not interested in being belittled and publicly scolded and chewed for no good reason like PJ did Tech’s QB on their last play. The score was 150 – 0 for goodness sakes, The kid was about to get eaten alive. WHY DO THAT TO TA KID?

The answer is he doesn’t do it to many kids who have an opportunity to play at other D1 programs and it’s my guess it will get worse in the fuutre.

WillGT

November 24th, 2012
9:15 pm

Well good, PJ is frustrated, and I hope I realizes how frustrated the fans are. I think firing PJ is the last thing the program wants to do right now. If they can fix the D and finally realize the importance of good recruiting, next season might be better. Like with Richt a few seasons back, his job was on the line, and he turned things around. Maybe just maybe this can happen at Tech. I know most fans right now want to see him gone, but the buy out would be too much. Im not even sure if he was fired who they would get to replace him

TechNative

November 24th, 2012
9:17 pm

first we cheat and get stripped of our crown, and our great, great coach loses again to UGA? ugh

David S.

November 24th, 2012
9:17 pm

GTBob… you are a sick puppy… however, i’m surprised that Gailey had that winning %…. You are the Debbie Downer of GA TECH FOOTBALL… some of us who identify ourselves as tech fans and are critical of the crap we see on TV, really are TECH fans. I’ve been that way since the days of Ricardo Ingram, Willis Crockett, and so on…. dude, you really need to get with reality… CPJ sucks donkey dong.. I’m starting to wonder, are you a DAWG fan acting as a tech fan just to get doodoo started

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
9:18 pm

Even a UGA grad can figure out that Ross had the team heading in the right direction.

Sorry, but you can’t just ignore his first few seasons. Those counted too. Either way he went 8-5 in his final season with a nice loss to UGA. UGA fans were calling for CPJ’s head after going 8-5 last year.

Ken in Alpharetta

November 24th, 2012
9:18 pm

Looked to me that the defensive coordinator change made no difference. Also looked as though Ga Southern is better than gt. Atleast better coached. There is your problem techies, Top coaches get top players and make them better. Simple as that. Not happening now at gt with cpj.

We Own You

November 24th, 2012
9:18 pm

We own you—-and all you can come up with is “wait ’til Alabama gets you.” Keep living through other teams nerds because your program is a joke, your coach is a jerk and your fan base is pitiful. Everybody who graduates from Tech is supposedly a millionaire, but you can’t afford squat. You should quit pretending to have a football program and go to a lower division.

Ed

November 24th, 2012
9:20 pm

The academics argument is nonsense. Schools find a way to admit who they want. Many of these kids wouldn’t gain admission to any of these high-profile schools without an athletic scholarship. And once the players are admitted, they are coddled and given all the assistance they need to get through school. The only schools in this country who truly have an academic barrier to big-time football success reside in the Ivy League.

1990_Champs_GT

November 24th, 2012
9:22 pm

@ Hap Hines, my point EXACTLY! Other teams can recruit and have success with tougher academics. Hell, Tech has done it in the past. But what we’ve got as a head coach isn’t the answer.

Boycott 2013. Boycott the program until we get a new coach. And then support that coach. And if he doesn’t make it work, boycott again, lol!

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
9:24 pm

David S., im not fully sold on CPJ but at some point you have to face the facts that winning at GT is not easy and spending tens of millions of dollars firing and chasing coaches every few years may not be the best strategy going forward. We either need to make significant institutional changes or accept that history will probably continue to repeat itself.

1990_Champs_GT

November 24th, 2012
9:24 pm

Boycott the Honeycomb Hideout unis too. Burn those bit€hes!

yellowfever

November 24th, 2012
9:25 pm

we are a freakin mess and nobody really knows what to do to get us straightened out. Everything from fire the coach, 2 & 3 star players, no AD, special teams suck, academics are too hard. Personally, I dont think Tech will ever be able to compete with UGA in football. Tech screwed it self 50 years ago when they decided to bale on the SEC and now were paying the price. If Tech was still a member, we would have better players, better coaches and better crowds.

David S.

November 24th, 2012
9:26 pm

I agree Ed… thats why I said earlier that if TECH is going to keep using that damn argument, than damn’t, go IVY league… There not that far away in academics from being that way any way. The Math at TECH is a BITCH, I dont care what any other person says… You have to experience it to know it… But, the argument is sooooooooooooo damn old…

Cdpridg

November 24th, 2012
9:27 pm

you tech boys were not ready..southern is a better program now…in due time Ga St will be too…..shut the program down tech

Leeman

November 24th, 2012
9:28 pm

What’s funny is all the mutt breaths need help to get to SEC FINAL. “Oh someone please beat SC”, “oh k state, please lose”, “oh gosh, lets cross our paws and hope Oregon loses”.

Gawdamighty, mutts. You had the easiest schedule on the SEC and u still come off like a welfare victim. Well guess what? Uncle nick is gonna cash your food stamps next Saturday. You spit the bit with the one good team you played and barely got by Florida even though they turned it over 6 times. Well just like the dumb dog who chases cars in my neighborhood and barks, You just caught a steamroller in bama. Enjoy the asswhipping the pedigree of the tide is gonna administer. It will make the kick in the mouth Lsu gave you last December feel like a stinky pinky finger.

Bwahaha !!

ATL

November 24th, 2012
9:30 pm

@old dog…I’ll tell you way 4 and 5 star athletes don’t want to come to Tech. GT doesn’t have Recreation or African-American Studies as majors!

Embarrased to even be associated with GA TECH

November 24th, 2012
9:32 pm

I have destroyed all my GT flags,hats,jackets & anything else to do with Ga Tech. I am so embarrassed to have anything to do with Ga Tech & I am employed there. Get rid of Paul Johnson NOW!!!!!!! please.

pathetic

November 24th, 2012
9:32 pm

Just think Techies, in 7 days all ladies can pretend to be Bama fans.

Living through another team’s success…a techie way of life. How’s that humble pie tasting? Like some more?

Flo- Ri- Duh

November 24th, 2012
9:33 pm

Richt owns Tech.

pathetic

November 24th, 2012
9:34 pm

“Let’s go Bama….they are my team now.”

David S.

November 24th, 2012
9:34 pm

GTBob… Thats what I’ve been trying to say…. When we do get someone that can do both, because it is more difficult at Tech than most schools, we’ve got to roll out fort knox to them… No, O’leary may not have been perfect, but he made it fun to watch and damnt, TECH would hit their opponent in the friggin nose and make them bleed… since he left, we have not had a snot knocking team… either way, I’ll support the Jackets…

fish fry

November 24th, 2012
9:35 pm

Leeman

November 24th, 2012
9:28 pm

What’s funny is all the mutt breaths need help to get to SEC FINAL. “Oh someone please beat SC”, “oh k state, please lose”, “oh gosh, lets cross our paws and hope Oregon loses”.

Gawdamighty, mutts. You had the easiest schedule on the SEC and u still come off like a welfare victim. Well guess what? Uncle nick is gonna cash your food stamps next Saturday. You spit the bit with the one good team you played and barely got by Florida even though they turned it over 6 times. Well just like the dumb dog who chases cars in my neighborhood and barks, You just caught a steamroller in bama. Enjoy the asswhipping the pedigree of the tide is gonna administer. It will make the kick in the mouth Lsu gave you last December feel like a stinky pinky finger.

Bwahaha !!
—————————————————————————

It is funny hearing this from a team that lost to Middle Tennessee State and is playing in the ACC championship game thanks to Miami bowing out. Can you say sore LOSER.

ugagrad'89

November 24th, 2012
9:35 pm

@Leeman 11 out of 12….Tech sux….

pathetic

November 24th, 2012
9:36 pm

“hey guys, do you think our GT book store can stock some Nick Saban posters? Sure would like to have one now that my favorite team is Bama.”

GTBob

November 24th, 2012
9:36 pm

I agree Ed… thats why I said earlier that if TECH is going to keep using that damn argument, than damn’t, go IVY league…

Football funds most of the other sports. Getting rid of it (or dropping to IVY) would pretty much end the athletic department. I’m fine having a poor football team if it allows real student athletes in other sports to continue to compete.

GT Letterwinner

November 24th, 2012
9:37 pm

The apparel section at the local Dollar General remains the closest connection most UGA fans have to their school.

Go Tech.

Still a graduate. Still a fan.

dawgfan

November 24th, 2012
9:37 pm

LMAO @ the Board pf Regents conspiracy theory excuse. That one takes the taco right there. You have to give Tech fans one thing. They sure are creative with their excuses.

GT wreck

November 24th, 2012
9:38 pm

GT has plenty of positives for recruits.

The great academics is a feature, not a hinderance. That’s why Calvin Johnson came to GT. People need to chill out with using the “but we’re smart, and that’s why we can’t recruit great players” crap.

Atlanta is an awesome city — especially for a young black man who might be a monster on the field. Every city has ghettos, including Athens, but I can’t think of another city that has a more affluent African American community than Atlanta.

What’s not going to help is our “we only want tier 2 recruits” approach.

dawgfan

November 24th, 2012
9:39 pm

GTLetterwinner=Still a crybaby sore loser.

Jim Grayson

November 24th, 2012
9:40 pm

We gotta find a way to dump PJ. We will never have a good defense if we are running this offense. It makes it difficult to simulate conventional offenses. Good teams can defend this offense if they see it every year. The failed experiment should be over. Bring back Chan, or O’Leary, or Pepper. Anybody is better than watching this high school offense.

JB

November 24th, 2012
9:41 pm

@bamajacket … Florida St much better than UGA?? I dont think so.

BubbaDaBaller

November 24th, 2012
9:42 pm

“I’m a Rambling Wreck from Girlie Tech and get buzzed on half a beer. I’d like to think we can beat Ole Georgia but after today it’s become painfully clear…If you can’t throw the ball your a team that won’t play in the New Year”…

David S.

November 24th, 2012
9:42 pm

yes it would end it at an ACC conferenceor D1 level… There is no such thing as fareness in college sports anymore, its as corrupt as lawyers and politics…. it’s a matter of how does one want to compete….

flagboy?

November 24th, 2012
9:43 pm

GT Letterwinner

November 24th, 2012
9:37 pm
The apparel section at the local Dollar General remains the closest connection most UGA fans have to their school.

Go Tech.

Still a graduate. Still a fan.
___________________

And probably still a jerk. Sitting in a desk might be closest connection you have with the word “class”.

bubba4dawgs

November 24th, 2012
9:46 pm

Sure glad the “cut blocking nerds” are gone for another season. That block should be outlawed! When a play can permanently injure a player, it should be banned. The nerds rely on it and unless you’re used to seeing it, it is difficult to prepare for it. It’s definitely a chicken-s**t block! Regardless, the DAWGS took care of business and win or lose the rest of the way, I’m proud of them! GO DAWGS!! Anyone see that squashed bug after the game??

JB

November 24th, 2012
9:47 pm

GTLetterWeiner … still a loser.

flagboy?

November 24th, 2012
9:47 pm

All of this talk about Tech not being able to compete and having all the disadvantages. . . you guys are less than 5 years removed from an ACC title and playing in the Orange Bowl. The fact is, Gailey had a great recruiting class one year, and Johnson had the benefit of a guy like Nesbitt fall into his lap. The flexbone/triple option is a helluva weapon, and if Johnson coached UGA, with the talent, he’d be very very successful. Problem being after a few years, the talent would drop off because most high school kids don’t want to play this offense in college. Nesbitt himself said he probably wouldn’t have come to tech if Johnson was the head coach at the time.

pathetic

November 24th, 2012
9:48 pm

All Georgia Tech athletes are in the NASA Space Program. It is true! Ask any Tech football fan. They can’t practice football….they are preparing for the next trip to the moon! Paul Johnson was an astronaut before coming to Tech…Look it up!

David S.

November 24th, 2012
9:49 pm

GT wreck— you’re a racist…

pathetic

November 24th, 2012
9:52 pm

Come on David S….astronauts are too smart to be racist. Chill bra’.

JB

November 24th, 2012
9:53 pm

All you whining morons that are using academics as your crutch, turn to fox and watch Stanford … great coaching, pro style offense.

pathetic

November 24th, 2012
9:55 pm

My Jackets can beat your Bulldogs in the upcoming debate bowl. Better recognize!

GT wreck

November 24th, 2012
9:55 pm

If I were the new AD, the new head football coach, or whoever is going to be in charge of recruiting players (who’s in charge here?), I would bring some swag to the game — one of our biggest weaknesses.

We should take a page out of the book of Thug U and drag the Atlanta hip hop community out to the games. We should be giving all Atlanta rappers field passes.

David S.

November 24th, 2012
9:57 pm

Amen JB… Look at Vanderbilt, Hell look at what Duke has done this year…

Lame

November 24th, 2012
9:59 pm

@1990_Champs_GT…I’m a GT fan, but Boise is extremely nice! Great city and great skiing. Very little crime like here in the ghetto!

Lame

November 24th, 2012
10:01 pm

@1990_Champs_GT…Boise is a great city. Great skiing and very clean.

pathetic

November 24th, 2012
10:02 pm

Yeah GT Wreck…our insults will keep them from feasting on our tears! You go boy!

Dawgs 11 Nerds 1

November 24th, 2012
10:04 pm

Paul Johnson and his explosive offense are doing a great job at Tech, i think he needs an 10 year extension. And they should hire the great Reggie Ball to coach QBs. He’s right, UGA is not the end all be all anyway.

ULTIMATE GT FAN

November 24th, 2012
10:04 pm

At least we are not Georgia Southern….wait a minute.

Disgusted

November 24th, 2012
10:06 pm

Paul Johnson is just jerky — no wonder why he has trouble recruiting.

Not the worst FC in the world, and as a football coach he should do it his way but his way and that offense does not win in big time college football.

That is on Radicovich, he was the one who hired him. If I were a GT fan I would be disgusted with that mediocre program.

And GT fans owe Paul Johnson nothing.

DawginNY

November 24th, 2012
10:06 pm

Cheer up Tech fans. The stat card will tell you that this was not utter domination. Our defense couldn’t get off the field in the first half against your O. You didn’t cash in, but your offense certainly wasn’t dominated. True, your defense sux. But you should be confident that you can always count on your offense to be one of the best in the country, and you are making a change again on the defensive side of the ball. Eventually you will get a good defensive coordinator, and when you do you will be very dangerous.

David S.

November 24th, 2012
10:07 pm

GT wreck… your thoughts are misguided… as I said, you’re a racist… no one has said we need to do what you’ve been suggesting… you’re an elitist and a smuck….

Mark

November 24th, 2012
10:11 pm

Another classy move and illegal block by a gt lineman against UGA. This has happened two years in a row. Richt is now 11-1 vs gt thugs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ojR6qo-RY8

ULTIMATE GT FAN

November 24th, 2012
10:12 pm

GT WRECK went to Astronaut school with me I’ll have you know David S! He is very smart. I would listen to his rap ideas.

David S.

November 24th, 2012
10:13 pm

Ok.. if you say so… but, only because you are the ultimate gt fan…

Champ...Chump, the difference is U!

November 24th, 2012
10:13 pm

GT football is in a bad place. They are small, slow, play with low football acumen, and very poorly coached. It was better when the GT team deserved to be on the same field as UGA.

ULTIMATE GT FAN

November 24th, 2012
10:16 pm

I also have a leather jacket which makes me the coolest guy on the Flats!

Mark

November 24th, 2012
10:16 pm

Another classy move and illegal block by a gt lineman against UGA. This has happened two years in a row. Richt is now 11-1 vs gt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ojR6qo-RY8

chop block U

November 24th, 2012
10:21 pm

Mark…any news on Thorton? Is he injured?

Mark

November 24th, 2012
10:24 pm

Haven’t heard a thing about Thorton yet

Flowery Branch Yellow Jacket

November 24th, 2012
10:29 pm

I don’t view today’s performance as necessarily an indictment of Georgia Tech or CPJ. The fact is, the entire ACC is a weak football conference. This season we have seen our best teams lose (and often lose badly) to middling teams from stronger conferences as well as supposedly weaker teams from WEAKER conferences. Maryland, a charter member of the ACC, is leaving the conference because they can make twice as much money with the B1G. I suspect DRad left Tech for Clemson for much the same reason. Unless the ACC can find a way to compete, both financially and on the field, then I suspect we’ll continue to see our teams dominated by out-of-conference foes. (USC is poised to beat Clemson for the 4th consecutive time … for the first time in the history of the rivalry!)

I had hoped that the ACC might go 3-1 against the SEC today, but it looks like we’ll end up 0-4. The problem is not unique to Georgia Tech or Coach Johnson.

Sierra Dawg

November 24th, 2012
10:29 pm

So, what I’m hearing is that Tech’s best shot at garnering a 4/5-star recruit is:

1A – A great education

1B – The city of Atlanta

Yeah, that’ll get the attention of a young baller who wants to play pro and get exposure. No doubt about it, Tech and Tulane both made a huge mistake leaving the SEC. One resides in Conference USA, and the other probably should. Tech’s demise under CPJ has coincided with the meteoric rise of the SEC. Sure, kid, come to the heart of the SEC and play on a mediocre ACC team that runs the exact opposite offense you need to get to the NFL (and that includes the defensive player who has to practice against the cut block day in and day out). Oh, and by the way, we’re a little short on cash and won’t be hiring a decent head coach for a while.

The deck is so stacked against Tech right now that it’s almost sad. My dad was a big Tech fan, and it actually hurts a little bit to see how far Tech has fallen – and what little hope it has of ever resurrecting the UGA rivalry into anything resembling “competitive”. No joke, if GSU makes the D-1 jump I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tech a consistent 3rd in the state in a few years.

chop block U

November 24th, 2012
10:29 pm

Why do we even play these Turkeys? We beat last year when they were in the top 25 AND WE DROPPED IN THE POLLS.

If they outlaw cut blocks, PB&J is in trouble. Hope so b/c it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Billyho55

November 24th, 2012
10:29 pm

Pitbull,
THAT’S THE NFL WHO IS CONSIDERING ELIMINATING BLOCKS BELOW THE WAIST GENIUS! IF YOUR GONNA TALK IT THEN GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT PLEASE!

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
10:34 pm

Hey Tech Fans

What time will the ACC Championship Trophy be presented to Team SEC be??

chop block U

November 24th, 2012
10:35 pm

Talk is cheap……so are Tech season tickets!

Sierra Dawg

November 24th, 2012
10:40 pm

Lookin’ to be an SEC sweep of the ACC today. Terence Moore has got to be considering suicide. Smartest move the AJC ever made (and there haven’t been many, admittedly) was buying him out and sending him packing.

A SHE SHE

November 24th, 2012
10:40 pm

Should they even have an A SHE SHE championship? I mean…at this point, would it ever be something to be proud of considering the weak perception.

Wow….and I remember when VT and Miami joined everyone thought the A SHE SHE would be the best football conference. teehee

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
10:41 pm

Hey Tech

Clemp & son; FS-who and Tech go down to the overated SEC

LOL

Fear the ACC blahahahahahahahaha

Buzz Kill

November 24th, 2012
10:47 pm

Tech didnt even show up for the biggest game of the year…………Go figure…………Yeah Johnson needs the boot………………

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
10:51 pm

Oh

I almost forgot how about Vandy over Wake Forrest

The mighty ACC should be given better respect :roll:

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 24th, 2012
10:51 pm

Oh

I almost forgot how about Vandy over Wake Forrest

The mighty ACC should be given better respect

:roll:

Jimmy

November 24th, 2012
10:55 pm

Tech. should fire the complete coaching staff and get some new blood in the program.

DawginNY

November 24th, 2012
11:03 pm

@Sierra, a few of points of disagreement:
1) There is nothing inherently better about being in the SEC. We pay our coaches more so we can attract better coaching talent.
2) It will be much more difficult for progams to rise quickly, ala USF and UConn, than it was 15 years ago. That’s because there are only going to be 5 power conferences with no automatic big money bowls for anyone else.
3) Tech has always had the same issues with recruiting, but have managed to be competitive in the past. If they could sustain an average defense, they would average 8.5-9 wins a year under Johnson and be competitive against Georgia. See Tech in the late 90s under O’Leary.

Sierra Dawg

November 24th, 2012
11:20 pm

DawginNY – ah, but we can pay our coaches more due to a much larger fan base, monumentally bigger stadiums, and significantly more TV exposure and revenue. That, and what appears to be the steady implosion of the ACC on several levels, makes it that much tougher for schools like Tech to compete for quality recruits. And I can’t over-emphasize the fact that Tech is located in the de facto heart of the SEC.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I just see the same difficulties cropping up for Tech over and over for the foreseeable future.

MariettaK9

November 24th, 2012
11:20 pm

I should talk about how efficient UGA was today. But, it looked like we were playing a scout team when we had the ball. After all, UGA could barely manage 100 yds rushing against Ga Southern.

But, in my opinion, if you want an argument why Paul Johnson should be fired ASAP, it would be the amazing, incredible, unspeakable lack of people wearing yellow (or gold or whatever color that is) that made the drive and paid for a ticket to see your beloved beehive design wearing football team against your arch rival! You Bees fans should be ashamed. Georgia Tech football has apparently become as irrelevant to the Jacket fans as it has always been to the rest of us. What a joke of a “major” college football program! R I P

Connor Norman

November 24th, 2012
11:27 pm

coach moobs, turkey neck, fish fry…..same old story…CMR owns you.

Santa Monica Jacket

November 24th, 2012
11:27 pm

People keep posting that Tech can not win with this offense. I agree with PJ, were you watching the game??? Georgia could have had to drive the ball 300 or 500 yards… it wouldnt have mattered if they started out of state!! They still would have found the end zone in Athens. You people are idiots for knocking the offense.. Jesus!! Get real. When you have a defense like that it absolutely does not matter what kind of offense you have, option, spread, pro-set. Whether they get a DC and recruit to turn it around.. I have no idea.

Old School GT21

November 24th, 2012
11:28 pm

There were two totally different teams on the field. Tech has a bunch of overachievers who at times plays well and help the team win. Usually, the overall play is average. Against better teams, it’s below average. Thus, we should be average. Our recruiting class for 2013 thus far is not in the top 40. My guess is that it’s not in the top 50. That’s the issue we should all have with the program. Absolutely no recruiting, period, the end. Just because we have a couple of 3.5 star guys who were redshirted this year doesn’t mean squat. I hope we hire a new AD, and end the Paul Johnson era. His defense is bad enough to have the entire coaching staff fired.

GTRanj

November 24th, 2012
11:28 pm

Are you guys kidding!!??!?!?!?!

You are surprised Georgia put up that many points on a team that has no true defensive coordinator!!?!?!?

Those 3 and 2 star recruits out gained you in yards and held the ball longer. Its just hard to stay in it when you don’t think your defense will help you out at all.

Get off Johnson’s back. He’ll get a good defensive coordinator and right the ship. Enjoy your victory today Georgia, because Alabama is gonna bring your back down to earth in a very violent and painful way.

Bark Madely, You are a total waste of a human being.

TXJacket

November 24th, 2012
11:31 pm

I think everyone calling for CPJ and staff to be fired are IDIOTS!!!!!! CPJ has the best winning % of any coach back to the 60’s. Sure we want to beat UGAG, but we have never had a coach with a winning record against UGAG. All time record is 62-39-5. I would rather have a winning coach and lose to UGAG. Its not going to affect recruiting, how often are we going after the same players. This is the right offense for GT. We need to fix our defense and we continue to win.

Mr. Chill

November 24th, 2012
11:37 pm

Ahhhhh . . . whimperings of the vanquished . . . how SCHWEEET!!

you can't fix stupid or Democrats or bulldogs

November 24th, 2012
11:39 pm

Time for a new coach…….ROLL TIDE

my opinion

November 24th, 2012
11:46 pm

So Manti T’eo is a candidate for the best college football player in the US. His stats from tonight against a 4 loss USC team with a freshman QB playing his first game. 4 tackles, 1 pick(thrown right at him) and he was beat for a TD pass. Clowney from South Carolina had 4 sacks tonight. Alex Ogeltree had 14 tackles for UGA in 3 qtrs.

The biased shown by Munsberger and Herbstreet is appalling.

whatfor

November 24th, 2012
11:47 pm

Well – I am NO LONGER pleased with Mr Johnson either. I have supported him for the last 4 years – but I think it is Past TIME for him to hang-it-up at GT and find another lower-tier school to run his beloved offense. I’m sick of it – and I WILL NOT be a sucker any longer and buy GT season tix until they have the b*lls to fire CPJ. We need to really look at developing a petition to have him fired – his offense may work against the likes of BC, Duke and Maryland – but is a laughing stock to real teams like UGA, FSU, BYU, etc. It is PAST TIME for Paul Johnson to leave.

Muddawg

November 25th, 2012
12:03 am

CPJ is a whinny little wimp who loves blaming everyone around him for his shortcomings.

WDE

November 25th, 2012
12:07 am

OH its great to be a Georgia Bull Dog !

TGT

November 25th, 2012
12:40 am

To all Tech fans,

Cheer up! I see Tech upending Florida State next week as the Seminoles will be overlooking the Jackets. I am a UGA grad, and I remember being in the stands in 1990 when Tech destroyed us on their way to a national title. You’ll be back again, and this rivalry will have more meaning. It is a phase and it will pass. The best of luck next week.

Write It Down.

November 25th, 2012
1:56 am

@YellowJacket
Who said:
“The offense is fine. Just need to work on the defense.”

No. The offense is not fine.
Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting — I thought I’d never say that.
For me, the ‘light bulb’ came on today when I saw Robbie Godhigh body-slammed to the ground like a rag-doll by a UGA defender.
It was then that I realized if the back were someone like Dwyer, Choice, Daniels, etc…, there would have been no one on UGA’s defense (or in all of college football. period.) man enough to fling them around like that.
At first, I was fine with Johnson recruiting ‘athletes.’ That is no longer the case. He needs to find some position players.

B-back: Minimum weight of 230lbs. That’s minimum. Personally, I’d love to see a 250-pounder trucking up through the middle. Lure him to Tech with hookers and doughnuts. He doesn’t need world class speed. He just needs to follow his blocks and make the first two tacklers pray for death.

A-back: Minimum weight of 210. Good speed (does not have to be great speed). Who cares if it takes him 3 minutes to run a touchdown — just means we have a longer time of possesion.

Quarterback: A *smart* leader. Leader. Leader.

Finally, we need GA boys who understand what a rivalry is all about. We’re recruiting from NC, AL, etc… Really?!

Good luck mutts. I hope you win it all. I’m not Irish and I’m sick of hearing the other rednecks on the other side of the river crow on and on.

GABud

November 25th, 2012
2:41 am

GTBob WE OWN THIS STATE AND DONT FORGET IT. TECH IS A BUNCH OF WHINERS,FANS AND ALL. Stay on your own blog cry baby. GO DAWGS!!!!!!

SEC ROLLS

November 25th, 2012
2:46 am

GO DAWGS,GATORS AND GAMECOCKS!!!! SEC IS SUPERIOR!!!!!!

Techfan

November 25th, 2012
4:56 am

I’d like to see a rule change that prevents picking a player up by the neck and slamming him head down into the turf. Maybe the players watch too much WWF in jail, but this is football.

S. Lewis

November 25th, 2012
5:43 am

How long does it take before realizing that Paul Johnson stinks? His high school offense insures that no top rated QB will ever come to Tech… nor will a top rated split end and obniously now will anyone who can play defense. Its time to cut him loose.

13 fans

November 25th, 2012
6:52 am

Tech has no pride in the way they play or look on the field. If they can’t get up for Georgia what makes anybody think they can win next week.

The uniforms look like trash from some bowling store.

Nativebird

November 25th, 2012
6:54 am

Paul Johnson is not pleased? Ha, that is a joke. The Jacket NATION has not been pleased with this idiot in 5 years. He NEEDs to disappear. Time for another “new” direction at Tech. This experiment is an abject failure.

aw

November 25th, 2012
6:57 am

40 years…..same results…..better players…….4 and 5 stars playing 2 and 3 stars…..its not the coach stupid…….40 years……the defence has to be fixed…..don’t go to the b-ten, you will really get hammered…stay put….go jackets….

Techfan

November 25th, 2012
7:03 am

Total yards:
Ga Tech-426
UGA-379
Not exactly a laughing stock. The offense works. The problem is not finshing drives and the passing game (Tech:10-21, UGA:14-18) which should improve with Vad. Special teams, punting and kicking are major downfalls. 95% PAT, 53% Field goals made, 39 yard avg punts, 24% touchback on kickoffs, 24 yard avg.for opponents on kickoff returns. We also need a good defensive coordinator., Lay off Johnson for the offense. He does need to stress fundamentals to the entire team and for them to play 60 minutes and cut the mental errors.

USMC DAWG

November 25th, 2012
7:26 am

I am happy with the win yesterday over the Yellow Jackets.

As much as I understand the frustrations of Tech Fans with Paul Johnson, I believe he is a great coach; HOWEVER, he has got to learn how to recruit better players AND spend some money on a good DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

Whether you like it or not, the offense is very effective and will get better as Vad Lee takes the Helm.

Cheer up Jackets and go beat up on FSU!

dry dirt road

November 25th, 2012
7:30 am

Tech wore the gold helmets that they usually wear and that thery usually lose to Georgia in. They had the chance to wear white helmets this year. Their Choice of helmets was not the Best this year and provided Favors to Georgia. They could have lined up for flu shots en masse at the Tech infirmary just up a hill from Rose Bowl Field up 5th St. before practice one afternoon, and would have been given them for free. Many players and the coach were sick from it. Johnson looked puffy yesterday, and Ataochu was playing sick. Cross was out last week. This alum wants to be entertained by Tech, and does not want to see sick players play, that’s too derelict. Godhigh having the ball stripped did not conjure up any Godhigh for this alum, instead conjuring up recollections of when Nesbitt stripped the ball from FSU. Now that strip has been somewhat negated just like the 2009 ACC championship was, and how losing to Middle Tennessee was like losing to Mcneice State of the powder puff conference.

you can't fix stupid or Democrats or bulldogs

November 25th, 2012
7:30 am

this CPJ offense experiment is over…Hire Mike Leach now!

Leeman

November 25th, 2012
7:34 am

We “own this state”. No, Steve spurrier owns this state, boy. And next week the new governor Saban will take his piece out of mark richts no-coaching ass.

Richt can’t beat spurrier
Richt couldn’t beat Colorado
Richt couldn’t beat UCF

WHY ON EARTH WOULD U THINK HE CAN BEAT BAMA?

Your weak schedule tricked u into thinking uga finished “strong”. You know better, muttfan, you just don’t want to wake up from your nap.

Have fun at Capitol one bowl playing Wisconsin!

USMC DAWG

November 25th, 2012
7:35 am

Tech Fans, Paul Johnson is going NOW WHERE soon, so get over it.

His offense is one of the top producing offenses on the country.

GT is a decent Defense away from having a top 15 Football Team.
(Okay, CPJ needs a few better athletes, I’ll admit)

USMC DAWG

November 25th, 2012
7:39 am

“Your weak schedule tricked u into thinking uga finished “strong”.”–Leeman

Yeah Leeman, like PRESBYTERIAN COLLEGE or MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE, or BOSTON COLLEGE or DUKE?????

Boy, what a schedule!

SOUR GRAPES!

dry dirt road

November 25th, 2012
7:41 am

I think Tech should quit playing Georgia, or maybe play them earlier in the year as any other game. It’s embarrasing to think we can hang with them. We can’t hang out with them. We can’t hang around. We also might want to skip some years. We aren’t competitive with them, and it’s not entertaining to watch the games as some sort of in state rivalry. There is no rivalry if their is no competition. It’s like Georgia playing a Div 1A team and not a Div 1 team. Tech always plays varied teams and has no particular rival.

dry dirt road

November 25th, 2012
7:42 am

Jodie M.

November 25th, 2012
7:43 am

With Tech’s abilities, how do they get into a play-off game. I understand the Miami situation, etc., but it’s unfortunate that this is the best the ACC has to offer. Maybe they shouldn’t do play-off games. Tech is substandard to UGA on all levels — including academic achievements.

Vampire Bill

November 25th, 2012
7:44 am

Maybe Paul Johnson will punch someone or call some teenager a idiot? Real classy guy

Buzzman

November 25th, 2012
7:52 am

Coach CPJ, please do our fan base a favor, when we lose against Florida State, and then after the game, those bowl scouts come up to you wanted GT to play on blue astroturf, or another High School bowl, please do not accept a bowl bid. The GT fans have had it and we are completly embarrassed for the season. Don’t pour salt into our wounds anymore. Lets just call the 2012 football season over after next week. Thank you.

pioneer

November 25th, 2012
7:56 am

“High school offense is foolish.” Are you kidding me?! High schools more than a decade ago had figured out the new game: put your best athlete at QB, wildcat him the fall, let him run, after the TD he chest bumps his friends. All of this used to be 12 year olds on the playground, now it’s colleges and who knows – NFL in ten years? Johnson has no choice; Tech is able to cheat a little in the admissions office but can’t take the same number of slashers and rutabagas as the football factories.

Sierra Dawg

November 25th, 2012
8:01 am

Yeah, 426 yards for Tech’ offense – all between the 20-yard lines. When crunch time came, that high school offense couldn’t get it done. One sloppy TD in mop-up time against the scrubs. Lowest GT point production of the year. And even as bad as its been the past couple of generations or so for Tech fans, it really should have been worse. You all know that if instant replay had been around longer, UGA would have two more victories.

This rivalry just doesn’t mean much any longer. The game was a footnote on most scoreboards yesterday while they concentrated time on rivalry games that featured two teams that were relevant. As much as I enjoy beating NATS, it’s not good for the state to have such a one-sided series. Georgia blue-chippers just don’t even consider Tech as an option. If they’re not going to UGA, then it’s off to Bama, Tennessee, Auburn, FSU, or any number of other schools outside the state. Sadly, I don’t see Tech overcoming that any time soon.

The other problem is the fan base. I recall a time when, thought not balanced against UGA, Tech had a reasonably large presence in Atlanta. You might recall that Grant Field used to hold a much higher capacity before the renovation that pared it down to it’s current (embarrassing) level. Now you can’t even fill that up, and the traveling fans are woefully inadequate. How do you think that looks to a recruit on Saturdays? Then they visit UGA or Bama or FSU and see 90,000-100,000 in the stands. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that one out.

In short, Tech needs a major program make-over and the world’s biggest PR campaign in order to have even a faint hope of competing at the level you want.

Techfan

November 25th, 2012
8:02 am

Weak schedule? 4 teams with winning records? (throw out the FCS) One was us 6-5. Next Vandy, then an 8 point win and 35-7 beatdown against the 2 decent teams on the schedule. College coaches all over the country wake up on Christmas morning wishing, “Please let Vanderbilt be the third strongest team we’ll face next year.” Last year Richt got his wish. UGA had won 9 games before the season ever started.

Techfan

November 25th, 2012
8:05 am

“How do you think that looks to a recruit on Saturdays? Then they visit UGA or Bama or FSU and see 90,000-100,000 in the stands. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that one out.” Yeah, they can’t get that Turfgrass Management degree at Tech.

Vince

November 25th, 2012
8:08 am

…at least Tech played pretty good for a quarter and a half against the JV team.

BgTimeTECHFan

November 25th, 2012
8:08 am

OSU verses Notre Dame for National title. should be a good one. NCAA has to waiver some teams, do the right thing and give the waiver to OSU, Nation want to see two best teams in the title game

I'm not delusional

November 25th, 2012
8:08 am

Wow you tekies are pathetic. All this talk about – “it’s not the offense it’s the defense” blows my mind. GT scored THREE POINTS against the Bulldog starters – THREE POINTS – THREE POINTS – good grief.

Now I will sit here and wait for the GT rebuttal – we ran for a gazillion yards – we gave the game away – shoulda coulda woulda.

All GT needs to do is coach-em up – good grief.

Georgia Southern would beat GT if they played next week.

Vince

November 25th, 2012
8:12 am

Georgia 42 Tech 10
Florida 37 FSU 26
South Carolina 27 Clemson 17
Vanderbilt 55 Wake Forest 21

OUCH!

MT

November 25th, 2012
8:17 am

There is no rivalry if their is no competition

Yeah I wonder how many people in Texas would love to see Texas and AM play this year.
I can imagine there is still alot of thrash talk going on out there right now, and it will not be long before that game is restored. It would be like that here. If GA and Tech quit playing, it wouldn’t take long for the cry to restore it would start back up.Probably the first time Tech fielded a proven top ten team.I can hear the Techies now, Boy I sure wish we could have a crack at Georgia this year.
Georgia went through this in the years from 1949 -1956. Dawgs lost eight straight to Tech. In 1957 “The man that brought the drought”, Theron Sapp scored the only TD of the game,and Georgia won 7-0. Georgia has had struggles with Florida since 1990 going 3-17 till 2010. Gators forgot there was football before 1990,with Georgia going 18-7-2 from the time Vince Dooly arrived until Ray Goff’s first year.

MT

November 25th, 2012
8:24 am

OSU verses Notre Dame for National title. should be a good one. NCAA has to waiver some teams, do the right thing and give the waiver to OSU, Nation want to see two best teams in the title game

No waiver for OSU,shouldn’t have done the things to get sanctions and probations in the first place.
Innocent people sometimes have to pay for the sins of others.Does Penn St get a pass, next year or so if they make the NC landscape?It’s a reason that its call punishment.

Vince

November 25th, 2012
8:24 am

@BgTime Tech Fan….Only a Tech fan would glorify a team that has the 46th ranked defense in the NCAA as one of the “two best teams in the country.”

Standawg

November 25th, 2012
8:33 am

Used to be the biggest nail biter of the year for both teams. Oh how I remember that Jasper Sanks TD that was called back. Man, those were the days…poor Tech.

Moleman

November 25th, 2012
8:33 am

It seemed like CPJ was blaming the players. Who recruits the players, decides what plays to call, etc.? Look in the mirror, if he’s not fired then he needs to change. We’ll see what the new AD does. Well at least we have basketball to look forward to.

Sierra Dawg

November 25th, 2012
8:35 am

Techfan, look at the top,of the page. This is a football blog, not an academic mine-is-bigger-than-yours contest. And crowing about the quality of a Tech degree in engineering has virtually zero application to your football team. Not a lot of aerospace engineering majors in your locker room. When you can get your football team off the bottom of the ACC list of graduation stats, let us know. Till then it’s all smoke and mirrors, with a healthy dose of sour grapes.

TechRon

November 25th, 2012
8:36 am

Johnson needs to be shown the door today. Anyone could coach that team better than he can. Anyone. I read Schultz prediction a couple of days ago. He said that UGA had to win and he based his pick on the fact that UGA had better players at EVERY single position on offense and defense. Now, whose fault would that be? Hey, I have been a Tech man all my life and my Dad before me, but I gave up on going to games a long time ago. They suck. The whole program is an embarrassment. I blame the idiots who hired Johnson and who stick with him. They are the real culprits. Johnson would only be good at a lower level where everyone gets the same talent (Furman, Ga. Southern, W. Carolina). His offense might work there, where the opponent is no bigger and no faster than you are. Not at Div. 1.

Dawg fans who post here are for the most part rude scum who have nothing better to do than kick somebody while they are down. Basically they are immature. Who needs to go to someone else’s blog to rub salt in an open wound? Still, their comments and critcisms are correct.

Put in Timeout by Ken Suguira,Filtered by Mark Bradley, Banned by Bill King, Chip Towers & only slightly loved by Jeff Schultz.

November 25th, 2012
8:36 am

Tech Played terrible.
We knew it would take a Great game to win, but we just don’t have the D to compete right now.
We have missed on recruiting some much need Defensive players but MAYBE we can get a Good D coach/recruiter to turn it around.
Didn’t expect much from WAKE but Vandy killed them more than I thought.
FSU was really disappointing. FLORIDA shows how good a team can be with an Average O but a Great D. TECH has to really work on the D side of the ball.
CLEMSON was a let down too. They couldn’t play D either.

Cdpridg

November 25th, 2012
8:37 am

What yall thinking about them Dawgs!!!

Double Secret Probation

November 25th, 2012
8:38 am

Bamajacket, you think FSU is better than Georgia? What are you smoking? FSU is easily the best team in your pitiful conference, but please show some proper respect. You may hate UGA but FSU is going to be the champ of a conference that went 0-4 yesterday against the SEC. FSU is as talented as UGA maybe, but better than UGA? Not this year. Or the last several years.

RedandBlackDAWG

November 25th, 2012
8:39 am

Techfan

November 25th, 2012
8:02 am

Another bitter tech. fan. It is always somebody else’ fault and not the lack of a good coach, players or even supportive fans at Tech.
UGA would prefer, I am sure not even scheduling your team, even though it is almost a guarantee of an easy win, but the Georgia State Senate has made it a mandatory game each year. It is beyond laughable anymore. Tech. can’t compete with UGA, and it has more to do with problems in recruiting. Think about the location, the campus, and the lack of talent as multiple reasons they aren’t good enough.

Honey boy

November 25th, 2012
8:43 am

Dry dirt road… Helmets would’ve made a difference?? Riiiggghtt!!!!
Those guys need to wear their helmets all the time…. And ride the short bus…..

Sierra Dawg

November 25th, 2012
8:49 am

TechRon, “someone else’s blog”? Really? I thought this was a blog about the UGA-Tech game? And do you not read all the “rude” Tech posters on true UGA blogs? GTBob could take your advice. Forty-eight hours ago the Tech bloggers couldn’t talk enough dismissive trash about UGA. Now it’s kicking a fan when they’re down when it’s crow-eating time?!

You have two choices after this game and season: curl up in a corner, suck your thumb, and moan about how unfair it all is, or accept the facts, get engaged, and try to re-invigorate your program. I see which path you’re taking. Similar to the one most of the Tech team took yesterday. It just proves my point that one of the biggest liabilities of Tech’s program is its fan base.

Rod

November 25th, 2012
8:53 am

It’s harder to put a good team on the field when they have to be smart.

If a player can say “duh”, UGA will sign them!

Go Jackets

November 25th, 2012
9:03 am

We have one more year. After next the buyout/firing wont be as bad. We will have a new AD (hopefully someone who knows how to hire) and he/she will want his/her own people. CPJ is too old and too prideful to change. His offense has become predictable, and he has NO concern for defense. At D1 he is a GOOD OC at best. Im sure he will land on his feet at a mid major or directional school to spend his remaining days.

DC DOG

November 25th, 2012
9:07 am

Tech Players….Quick but SMALL. Ga Southern had bigger players and put up a better FIGHT vs. UGA. How many GT fans will travel next week…..not many outside of players family. YOU WILL NEVER GET THE PLAYERS , NEEDED, to be a threat with this offense… After watching Fla -FSU and Clemson-SC….the ACC stinks

nwdnanny

November 25th, 2012
9:12 am

First…IT’S GREAT TO BE A GEORGIA BULLDAWG.

Second…Recruiting is the key and your doors have double deadbolts on them. You sure don’t want to take recruits to the stadium that is half full AT BEST. But then you could stroll them around the North Ave. campus. Just make sure you do it during the day time so they don’t get mugged or killed.

Third…face it bugs, you will never be a winning football school so go back to your computer games and try to compete with the Harvards, Yales, Princetons and other Ivy League teams.

Snack Shack

November 25th, 2012
9:12 am

It appeared there were less than 3,000 Georgia Tech fans in Sanford Stadium yesterday, and that included the Tech Band (who beat most fans in exiting the stadium after the game).

Incoming Tide

November 25th, 2012
9:14 am

Back to bitter reality: Alabama 38, Georgia 13

GTJACKET

November 25th, 2012
9:19 am

Congratulations to the Dawgnation on a big win and a great upcoming opportunity.

I for one decided to stop going to games in Athens because of the poor hospitality of the fans there. Not all of them, but many, are just plain rude to the visiting teams fans. This is especially true when it comes to GT fans. They are not good losers or winners. I hear this from every school that has to go up there so it is not just sour grapes from a Tech fan. I will not go back up there again, and haven’t been since O’leary beat them up there.

53½ arrests in four years

November 25th, 2012
9:20 am

As much as I would love beating Georgia, the reality is that a school like GT with its very high academic requirements is usually going to lose on the football field against schools like Georgia that admit players who can barely read and write, and are prone to being arrested for all manner of criminal acts, including drug use, driving while drunk, beating up women, and urinating in public places, just to name a few of their crimes. Not so long ago, it was schools like Miami and FSU who were infamous for this kind of behavior, but with 53 arrests in the last four years, and a Fulmer Cup win, it’s Georgia and Mark Richt who have become the NCAA’s poster child for everything that’s wrong with college athletics.

Georgia Tech proved in 1990 that it’s possible to win championships with players who are intelligent and have a strong moral and ethical character. Unfortunately, since that time, the rise of football factories like Georgia have made it much more difficult for quality schools like Tech to overcome the inherent advantages that these win-at-all-costs factory schools have.

As long as there are coaches like Mark Richt who will do anything to keep his fat paychecks coming in, the situation will only worsen, especially since the school’s administration and fans have abandoned any semblance of demanding excellence both on and off the field. Winning is the only thing that matters now, and the fact that most of their players are functionally illiterate no longer upsets anyone.

It’s a shameful and disgusting situation at UGA, and I have no doubt that the school’s earlier ethical coaches like Wallace Butts and Harry Mehre are spinning in their graves at the thought of what shameful self-serving coaches like Mark Richt have done to their school.

B'dawg

November 25th, 2012
9:22 am

Thats it Tech. Join the Ivy League. Maybe you can compete Brown.

Jock

November 25th, 2012
9:22 am

Lottery Pups, do it again. We were for running Mark off earlier in the year.

“Go Lottery Pups”

DC DOG

November 25th, 2012
9:27 am

I say KEEP CPJ……. and leave the ACC like Maryland did and PAID to do it. ACC fans … Basketball is HERE and Baseball right around the corner… CHEER UP.. ” It’s Great to be a Georgia Bull Dog”

The SEC wins The 2012 ACC Championship

November 25th, 2012
9:31 am

GTBob

The SEC is way overrated

Thats why FSU lost; Clempson lost; Wake lost; and well Tech lost

Fear the mighty ACC :roll:

blahahahahahahahaha

Triple Option Fan

November 25th, 2012
9:32 am

OK to all those who blame the lack of recruiting on Coach Johnson. I must admit, that is definitely evident on the field right now, and he needs to fix that right away if he wants a chance at beating Georgia ever again. However, to those that want him fired I have this to ask. Has GT ever scored 68 points against anybody under any of its previous coaches? or has GT ever led the nation in any offensive category before??? If you see the success the Oregon and Ohio State is having currently with a version of the option, you realize that it is a great equalizer and it at least gives you a chance against teams with greater talent like UGA. Could you imagine running a typical pro style offense with 4 star recruits vs. 5 star recruits??? Did anyone notice Georgia Southern was the only team to score 21 points and the most yards against Alabama last year with that same type of offense?

Does CPJ need to recruit better? absolutely. But will he or any other coach ever get as many 5 star recruits as UGA? are you kidding me??? I think CPJ gives us the best chance of winning, if of course he does a better job of recruiting talent.

take it from me.

November 25th, 2012
9:34 am

Fire CPJ the hillbilly!

SEC!

November 25th, 2012
9:38 am

WOW! UGA beats Tech, South Carolina Beats Clemson, and Florida beats Florida State. SEC OWNS the ACC. If UGA were to beat ‘Bama, UGA could be the SEC/ACC champ. Tech and Florida State will be playing in the ACC 4th place game.

take it from me.

November 25th, 2012
9:38 am

Maybe tech should get out of divison 1 football ,untill they hire a coach that can compete!

hit a single

November 25th, 2012
9:40 am

College football is as weak as it has ever been. Ohio St. goes undefeated with a team that even Meyer says is not that good. Fundamentals are a lost art. Worse tackling I have ever seen. It is a try to knock them down instead of face mask on the numbers and lock up. I am as big a Dawg fan as anybody but I am not impressed with our tackling. We are still a sling them down team. We will not beat Bama with that technique. That is why we couldn’t tackle Lattimore and believe me Lacy will be tough also. So Dawgs let wrap up and get it done.

Defense

November 25th, 2012
9:54 am

Whom should tech get as a defensive coordinator? Any suggestions?

BullDogMike

November 25th, 2012
9:55 am

It was very obvious after all the games played out over the weekend, that the ACC is just not able to match up with SEC opponents. I saw an FSU team that was ranked # 10 Look as hapless as any team could look. If they were tenth best team something is bad wrong with these pollsters. I seriously believe FSU and Clemson both would struggle against Vandy. And as for GT, they need to drop down to Division 2.

Keep Paul Johnson forever!!!

November 25th, 2012
9:55 am

Sign CPJ to a lifetime contract, PLEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!

– Bulldog Nation

michael

November 25th, 2012
9:58 am

hey tech? notre dame of the south….faculty/adm. if they can do it why can’t we??????????

WillGT

November 25th, 2012
9:58 am

Under PJ we have had some good games and good seasons I still feel he can get it done with the proper players, look at the 2009 season, and the following season, the huge upset against VT at home, the big Clemson upset last year. Would a new coach that plays pro style really change recruiting that much? Tech has always gotten the leftovers from the region. Im just not convinced either way that PJ has a solution or even if a new coach would be the solution.

michael

November 25th, 2012
10:01 am

spend the damn money you sit on to enhance kids wanting to come to tech. why are there crimes on campus. beef-up and smile, make ALL students feel safe and happy, relax and those non-student athlets will also help the thugs that need a helping hand. change with the times. dame has FINALLY. give a little..

George P Burdell

November 25th, 2012
10:02 am

Of course..UGA is the Harvard of the south. Look it up..UGA offers a degree in Geography!!! Seriously!! Why do so many UGA fans literally worship the school when they went to college nowhere.

icedawg

November 25th, 2012
10:09 am

Every program has its ups and downs. Bama wasn’t that good not too long ago. Defense is a must. Johnson knows what he has to do.

michael

November 25th, 2012
10:12 am

if notre dame can do, we can. i think ted roof for d.c. and george godsey as o.c. re-hire o’leary to oversee, but from a distance these guys. he is bobby knight!! spend the cash to get those guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigBalls

November 25th, 2012
10:22 am

Tech stinks plain and simple. Johnson has crafted a fairly good FCS team. Big booboo if you’re playing FBS/BCS. Can they get better and be legit? I think so 100%. Can Johnson get the job done? Have serious doubts about that.

Rich

November 25th, 2012
10:22 am

Where’s St. Simons to give us his insight? hahahahahahahahahahaha

jarvis

November 25th, 2012
10:29 am

@George P Burdell, your conference stinks, your team stinks, your coach stinks, your stadium stinks and your Program stinks.

If you want to talk engineering here’s the Blog for you.
http://chem-eng.blogspot.com/

Otherwise, admit your inferiority and bow to your superiors.

GtFormerPlayer

November 25th, 2012
10:30 am

Arkansas fired their coach after one year. What is tech waiting for?

jimbob

November 25th, 2012
10:34 am

Would Phillip Fullmer consider coaching at Tech? I’d take him in a second.

Old School

November 25th, 2012
10:45 am

Since I have lived in Georgia my whole life I would really like to pull for them against Bama but it’s these obnoxious Dog fans that keep me from it. I have a lot of respect for Mark Richt though so I will try hard.

Double T

November 25th, 2012
10:50 am

Rob from Tech, and the rest of you tech fans have it right, your coach is and comes across as a stiff lipped ASS. Could you imagine playing for a guy like that? What a shame, you hire a guy like that and expect a different outcome, really? We, as DAWG fans, love the guy and enjoy kicking his ass every year. No extra motivation needed, all we have to do is remember his classy move of shoving our coach after the game. Best luck with CJ, maybe he has another wrinkle to that stylish offense of his. Please, please give him a contract extension. Can’t wait until next year.

Hang Time

November 25th, 2012
11:22 am

Hope CPJ’s tirade went on to include defensive coaches, they are the worst in all college football. Those D coaches must be teaching poor tackling and running around blocks. Charles Kelly? seriously. CPJ – I can do better, call me.

Go Dawgs

November 25th, 2012
11:26 am

Peter

November 25th, 2012
11:35 am

The play calling under CPJ has been poor and predictable. Tevin Washington should be done as starter. He’s had his chances. CPJ needs to bring in
Lee or another potential starter and restart the season now while it has an impact. Tech needs better play calling and better defense. They need an inspiring coach. Personally I like the creativity of Mac McWhorter who called an excellent game in his only game as head coach. He is 100% as a winning head coach. He put so many offensive looks up that he confused the opponent. He lined up in an I, Wishbone and more. Let’s get a new Coach and not pay
him a 7 figure salary until he performs. CPJ got a massive salary for not performing. He’s paid too much and doesn’t seem that concerned about winning.

SlimG

November 25th, 2012
11:40 am

Wow!!!!!!!! No show was stating the obvious. CPJ has expired. Love the comment about o’leary.

Confused

November 25th, 2012
11:40 am

Academia is not Tech’s major hurdle to football success. Atlanta is Tech’s major problem. No urban schools, save USC, consistently perform well in football. Will there be periods of success? Absolutely, but sustained success is not in the cards for an urban school. Anywhere.

Newtonite

November 25th, 2012
11:42 am

This season has proved conclusively that Paul Johnson’s system cannot work at Tech. And the reason is not the system itself, but that Johnson can’t recruit the kind of players he needs to make it work. Surprisingly, his recruiting shortcomings are more pronounced on the defensive side of the ball, rather than on the offensive. His commitments for next year don’t look any better than his previous classes. You wonder how much longer management at Tech can go along with Johnson defore they cry “Uncle.”

Seriously

November 25th, 2012
11:42 am

TECH DEFENSE CANNOT PRACTICE AGAINST TOP TIER TRADITIONAL OR SPREAD OFFENSES….THEY’RE DEFENSE WILL ALWAYS BE TERRIBLE AS LONG AS THEY RUNNING THE TRIPLE OPTION…..

big daddy

November 25th, 2012
11:43 am

I have seen a lot of Tech football games over my life, but this is the sorriest defensive team and special teams that I have ever seen. This game was lost from the kickoff. When you can’t find a kicker to put the ball in the end zone you are in trouble. When you can’t tackle and give field position, you are in trouble. That has been Tech’s albatross all year long. Defense can’t tackle, defense can’t put pressure on QB and secondary can’t defend. When you never know where the ball is and you are looking at the receiver, don’t expect to make plays. After GA scored and Tech marched down field to the one and have ball stripped which is good defense, you could see the air come out then.
The hiring of Al Groh by CPJ has ruined this team defensively. When a team gives up over 40 points in 6 games, you have problems, and friends, Tech has problems.
CPJ should have put VL in game earlier, not that TW played that bad, but this is the QB of the future and let him play.
Unless CPJ can hire a good defensive coach, who can teach how to tackle, how to defend a pass, I don’t care what kind of offense he runs, the results will be the same.
Tech has some good athletes, but has sorry coaching especially on the defensive side of ball.
Yes, GA has a good team, but GA is not as great as all of you Bulldog lovers think they are. Yes, you have lost only 1 game, but go back and look at some of the games you were behind on and should have lost because of bone head plays by your opponents, and I don’t believe you would be so happy this morning.
Just as you do when you lose a game, you will be blasting Richt, Bobo, and Grantham as not being able to coach.
Go Bama

Dawg Talk

November 25th, 2012
11:45 am

WE OWN THIS STATE!!!!! LOL

BOY THAT DAWG IS UGLY

November 25th, 2012
11:47 am

Big Tech Fan here but I can call it for what it is. For Dawgs, strong performance, physical, talented, well coached and played with passion. Deserved the win and deserves to play in the SEC Championship. For Tech, poor execution, not physical and poor, poor performance in all aspects of the game. They were manhandled. Johnson has been a poor recruiter. Heck, I’d love to see some passion from the guy. O’Leary could recruit by Tech standards (6-8 really good players, 3-4 on O and 3-4 on D) but he had the ability to build toughness. Gailey could recruit fairly well (not to the level of UGA/SEC teams) but had decent defenses. Look at the # of NFL players recruited by O’Leary and Gailey and then let’s count the same for Johnson in a few years. You can win at academic schools just look at Vandy, Stanford and Northwestern.

Dawg Talk

November 25th, 2012
11:47 am

Same Mickey-Mouse Offense, same outcome! Go Dawgs!

SlimG

November 25th, 2012
12:00 pm

Confused ur clueless. Atlanta is the colored Mecca . If you can’t recruit and sell Atlanta my friend , where can u . Gailey had no problems.
Speaking of, when are we gonna admit tech gave up too soon on him ????

SlimG

November 25th, 2012
12:02 pm

Oh yeah, Vad is not the answer

Coffee Bluff DAWG

November 25th, 2012
12:29 pm

GT might have a good front runner offense but if you get down big like GT did yesterday their total lack of a passing game is exposed.

Even late in the 4th Q after UGA emptied the bench GT couldn’t complete a pass with no pressure on the QB and no coverage on the receiver.

GT just looked pitiful. I’d give the edge to GA Southern in a GT – GSU matchup.

BOY THAT DAWG IS UGLY

November 25th, 2012
12:37 pm

Also, where’s the Quarterback, 5th year senior who brings leadership, inspiration and talent developed over 5 years? At some point you get mad and say I’m not going to take it anymore and do what it takes. A Defense who have not “laid it on the line” and said “enough is enough and I’m going to step up and play”. A kicker who tells himself, this is D-1/FBS and kickers have the skill to kick it to the goal line and make field goals.

SlimG

November 25th, 2012
12:38 pm

How angry were tech fans when running plays being called down by 5 TDs?

BgTimeTECHFan

November 25th, 2012
12:40 pm

Refs won the game for UGA.
Record no-calls for UGA was the difference in the game.

BgTimeTECHFan

November 25th, 2012
12:42 pm

10 no-Calls in 1st 12 plays, Tech had 2 in 30 plays.
nobody in the country can win with those odds

Coffee Bluff DAWG

November 25th, 2012
12:47 pm

BgTimeTECHFan, Refs won the game for UGA – can’t you come up with something better than that?

Refs should have called “stealing” when Rambo took the ball from your RB.

Maybe you can work on getting better refs for next yr. Good post.

jacketdad

November 25th, 2012
12:56 pm

For Tech to have been competitive yesterday they would have needed UGA to play sloppy and make a lot of mistakes. Unfortunately, Tech was the sloppy, mistake prone team and the blow-out ensued. I have come to the realization that Tech beating Georgia in football is going to be a rare event unless the Dogs suffer self inflicted wounds (such as Ray Goff or Jim Donnan). Mark Richt is a good enough coach to take advantage of the built in advantages that UGA has to ensure on going dominance over the Jackets. What are the built in advantages? They should be obvious but here goes:

– a $92M athletic budget versus a $45M athletic budget at Tech
– SEC dominance over the ACC; look at the carnage from the four inter-conference games yesterday; the SEC is a much more attractive league to play football in
– tougher academic standards; while not as big a deterrent as some people like to think it is it still prevents Tech from even looking at a large number of players who are borderline students and these tougher academic standards are used extensively against Tech in recruiting;
– fan support; UGA has an much larger and more devoted fan base than Tech; the recruting benefits to this cannot be overstated
– UGA football tradition versus Tech football tradition; there is no comparison here as UGA has been a nationally prominent team for the last three decades; Tech’s visibility has been on a much lower level
– All of the above contribute to the enormous recruiting advantage UGA has over Tech; fans from Tech clamor for 5 star and 4 star players to be signed by Tech but the reality is that most of these 4 and 5 star recruits will not give Tech the time of day; it would be interesting to find out about how many of the current Tech players were seriously recruited by UGA (or by Alabama, Tennessee or Auburn for that matter) My guess is that they would not be at Tech if they had been offerred by these schools

The fact of the matter is that the UGA and Tech football teams exist in two separate but unequal football solar systems. Expecting Tech to beat Georgia frequently in football is an unrealistic pipe dream. One or two wins every tne years is pretty much the norm.

Peter

November 25th, 2012
1:01 pm

Great point. Tech D has no traditional offense to practice against. They are probably the best D in the country against the option. That will only help playing Army or Airforce, not UGA, Bama or FSU.

OrlandoDawg

November 25th, 2012
1:17 pm

As a UGA fan I will be pulling for GT to beat FSU…Go TECH!

Mountain Dog

November 25th, 2012
1:18 pm

As a Ga. grad, but growing up a hugh Tech fan, I feel for you Tech fans. Just a few weeks ago many of us dogs were so sick after the S.C. game that we were ready to lynch Rich and Bobo. What a differance several weeks and some key losses by BCS leaders make. Its funny to see how cocky we have become after a few wins over unranked teams(Fla. excepted). All us dogs would be proud to have a son attend Tech and we could so easily be in Techs shoes today but for some great players who finally started playing like they were expected to. Tech will be back for us to hate again.Good luch next week.

Rusty

November 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

There’s a new Sheriff in town.

Rusty

November 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

Just wait until he gets his own players.

Rusty

November 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

Bigger fish to fry.

Sugar Hill Dawg

November 25th, 2012
1:40 pm

SEC 4 – 0 vs ACC yesterday. I guess that says it all. I’m looking forward to Saturday – would love to be at the Dome, but I’ll camp out in front of my TV and cheer on the Dawgs. I’ll watch the ACC game (at least for a little while), but I’m afrasid Tech may be in for another behind kicking. Hola, Sun Bowl!

Buzz2011

November 25th, 2012
1:44 pm

Uga was most impressive. As a side bar, they deserved to win based
on out gaining GT 426 total yards to 375 total yards. They also won time of possesion 40 minutes to only 20 minutes..Bama should be really scared…..
Wait, wasn’t Thuga that was the Jackets winning those stats? Wait?? Bama licking their chops.. Good luck Dawgs…
to eat Dog defense…

Rusty

November 25th, 2012
1:47 pm

Hey Buzz2011… Georgia didn’t have the yardage or time of possession because they had short fields all day. Dummy.

MiamiDawg

November 25th, 2012
1:51 pm

Yeck can still get some rings… first you go to Kmart, then you put dimes into the machines and turn the knob. Repeat until you run out of dimes or get the ring you want.

See you next year.

Bucky Shamburger

November 25th, 2012
1:56 pm

Who gives a rats arse if PJ is upset. His system attracts kids that otherwise can’t play at another major college. The system is then destroyed by any athletic team. It is one thing to have great athletes like Tech did at the Orange Bowl only to see the system destroyed- it is quite another to see inferior athletes coupled with an inferior system.

PJ- see Gregory. You are in a top 5 talent state where the HSchools run more advance offenses. Evolve or move on. Bobby Dodd Stadium and Ga Tech should be Atlanta’s team. PJ can build a spread offense around Vad Lee. Can the triple option- it is a silly offense that kills defensive recruiting as well.

Bucky Shamburger

November 25th, 2012
1:59 pm

Jacketdad- don’t be an apologist. There is no corner of the earth that doesn’t know and respect Ga Tech as an academic institute. The same is simply not true of UGA. Ga Tech needs to get an AD and coaches that play up to the quaility of the institute. The $s will follow.

Dogham

November 25th, 2012
2:02 pm

It’s Sunday morning – How is Paul Johnson still employed by Georgia Tech? After losing the ACC Championship game then a lower tier bowl game. The Jackets will finish 6 wins and 8 losses. Terrible F.

Coffee Bluff DAWG

November 25th, 2012
2:02 pm

Buzz2011, Yeah, we were laughing all day that GT fans could at least brag about something – time of possesion.

Richt pulled starters in the 3rd and 4th Q or it would have been 63-3. Congrats on your time of possesion victory.

billydawg

November 25th, 2012
2:06 pm

Air Force thumped GT in Independence bowl a few years ago.

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

I’m a huge Tech fan and will always be..you Tech fans make me sick that sit here throwing things out there that make no since..Im not happy about yesterday but it showed something that we already knew..we have no defense and special teams are horrible..you are an idiot it you blame this on CPJ offense..offense wasnt the problem..you can say if we get down like we were yesterday our offene cant come back..that would be true with any offense..we were down 28-3 and couldnt stop UGA..we could have scored everytime we got the ball in the 2nd half and still would have lost by 2 tds..

@PETER..did you watch yesterdays game..saying that TW should be done and give it to VAD..Vad first drive turned it over on downs and then he threw a int to a guy that he had wide open if he would have thrown it when he was suppose to..but we were still in the game and he over threw the Bostic by 5 yds..TW first 2 drives was a fumble on the 1 and a FG..his third drive lead to a missed FG..Vad is going to be special but he isnt ready to just take over the team yet..

We need to get a DC and have him build us a defense..we have alot of good young players on that side of the ball..if we could just slow some people down we will win at least 3 more games this year than we did

Our special teams will take care of itself with the kicker that is coming in this year..he will be able to make FG and kick the ball in the endzone

GT will never have the same star guys as UGA..we never have and never will..CG hadone great class and that was it..CPJ has some good players in this class..I think we will be much better next year

Dumpster fire

November 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

wow all these excuses…better players…..to hot to play…….game was to early…….. Tech standards are to high to get the same players……..Obama caused us to lose……we had more yards……..You Lost….that’s all that matters, I SAID it would be over by the half…..Tech didn’t want nothing to do with UGA yesterday. the defense starting using wwf moves on your guys…..Dang! did anyone see that DDT?

Sunbury Ga dawg

November 25th, 2012
2:23 pm

Tech has been wrecked…..
We have bigger fish to fry ladies and gentlemen……

keyser soze

November 25th, 2012
2:24 pm

@BgTimeTECHFan:

November 25th, 2012
12:40 pm
Refs won the game for UGA.
Record no-calls for UGA was the difference in the game.

Man, did those mean old **ACC** refs have it in for Tech? I hope that you’re not as stupid in person as you are here.

Seriously. In the meantime, kiss my bulldog azz.

Dogham

November 25th, 2012
2:30 pm

@ GT TN – I seem to remember George O’Leary was able to get quality players into the system when he was HC and even held their own against UGA. As far as the DC – yes they need one, but the one PJ had to let go mid season he brought in. While the offense can move the ball against undersized ACC teams they couldn’t move it on UGA or even BYU earlier this season. The defense gave up 40+ points six times during the season, but the offense only scored 40+ 3 times (not counting the high school match against Presbyterian – Really?? Presbyterian ??). I don’t think Tech fans should accept and settle for being second fiddle in the state.

P.S. I noticed you’re drinking kool-aid. What flavor?

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
2:33 pm

@ Bucky S..it shows how much that you know about football if you are comparing basketball rec to football rec..by the wasy C Gregory hasnt done anything yet..he has got good players but he still has to win..I think he will but look back at our basketball records with guys like Favors..I hope we are goign to be very good in basketball but we havent done anything yet..so staying CPJ needs to be like CG is stupid..CG hasnt done anything yet.. 3 basketball players can change a program..you could get 3 of the best offense football players in the country and if you dont surround them with a good defense you will do nothing..lastly, you are showing how much you know about football rec if you think the offense we run hurts defense rec..a kid doesnt say “Im not going to GT because they run the triple option.”…it is Tech fans that have football IQ’s like you that embarrass me as a Tech fan

BuzzMan

November 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

The most disturbing thing to me as a GT fan for 60 years is that PJ seems to take no responsibility for the current state of the program. He is totally responsible for the poor recruiting (only won with Gailey recruits). He shows no leadership during the game and only rants and raves at this players. At the end of the Miami game when Golden was rallying his team, Johnson wondered around on the field like an arrogant fool. When asked about the upcoming ACC game, his comment was we will see if they show up next week (referring to his team). What about WE SHOW UP – taking responsibility for his part of this team. Unfortunately PJ is not a head coach and does not have the capabilities of building a program. The next few years look bad due to the lack of leadership for the last few years under PJ. But it is the time for a change – this reminds me of how the basketball program was totally destroyed by a bad coach. Won with someone elses players but took the program backwards.

The next coach will struggle for a few years, but we must change and change now. The current players will respond to a leader and play better and the right leader will recruit assistants and players for the future.

It is indeed sad times for GT but let’s not settle for this arrogant style any longer – we are a proud university, but with PJ, we are going no where but down.

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
2:45 pm

Dogham..C O’Leary got good players..he didn’t get 5 star players..he never had a Top 10 class like UGA get every year..I never said that Tech couldnt get quality players..I said that we will never get the star guys that UGA gets..UGA gets Top 10 classes every year and GT will not be able to do that..if we should have to score 40 points everytime to win a game then you have no defense..if GT defense would have given up the scores that UGA gave up we would have lost 2 games..GT moved the ball on UGA in the first half but didn’t score because of turnovers..you picked 2 games and used that to say how bad outr offense is..I could do the same thing to UGA offense..you got shut down against USC by only scoring 7 points when game was out of hand and then UF had 6 turnovers and you only scored 17 points..if UGA had GT def they would have lost alot more games..Im just saying we have more problems than our offense..CPJ did hire CG and I never said that he shouldnt answer for that..I just said we need a new DC that will bring excitement to our D

dawg4life

November 25th, 2012
2:47 pm

Keyser- What BgTimeTechfan was refering to was the body slamming penalties. It is a 15 yd penalty for intentionally crushing the ego of a player when they are picked up and body slammed to the ground on multiple occasions….

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

@ Buzzman..at least he won with Gailey players..Gailey couldnt win with them..

Bucky Shamburger

November 25th, 2012
3:02 pm

GT TN- you are a laughable and ignorant puss-really, a kid doesn’t make a decision on the program based on the offense the team runs, really?. Go check out the starting line ups under Bobby Ross and get back to me. In the meantime let me know your net worth and I will bet it that Gregory and the Jackets are top 20 next year. Moron

UGA OWNS gtu

November 25th, 2012
3:06 pm

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep CPJ!!!
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

We’re simply better than gtu. Period.

dap01

November 25th, 2012
3:35 pm

Tech is falling fast. They were thrown around like rag dolls. They had no idea how to run a 2 minute offense. The coaching is lacking, the talent is lacking. There is no wonder that there are only a handful of fans at each game.

They are not as good as GA Southern.

BILLY JACK

November 25th, 2012
4:09 pm

Hey GT TN-Yall could dig up Knute Rockne and never beat Georgia-I sat behind a little chinaman at the game yesterday and he put his hands over his eyes everytime UGA did something good-so basically he had his hands over his eyes all day………….anyway his hands were so small they barely covered his eyes and he had tech gear from head to toe-and looked like he was about to cry the whole game.

Techster

November 25th, 2012
4:20 pm

Do we have any RBs able to play against FSU? There were so many body slams and take downs by UGA’s defenders, I thought some of our guys must have been broken. If that were a baseball game, after the first body slam, the opposing pitcher would have thrown one at their head’s. I can’t believe that Ogletree or Jarvis or Rambo didn’t suffer an “accidental” torn ACL. The Tech girls just took it like sissies. That lack of response hurt worse than the butt-whipping…

Schadenfreude

November 25th, 2012
4:21 pm

Haha…GTBob blames O’Leary for tech’s woes…that’s a new one…I guess the excuses have to get more elaborate and desperate every year…I’m thankful I’m not a tech fan.

VICARIOUS FANS

November 25th, 2012
4:23 pm

On the habitual occassion of once again receiving its annual beatdown…Georgia Tech fans seem to have a given proclivity for “suddenly” becoming wonderful surrogate fans of their “oppressor’s next opponent” (Alabama) to exact “vicarious revenge”. Given the unanimous beat-down by SEC teams over ACC opponents this weekend….there seems to be little choice in such “vicarious redemption”.
Given the current and likely future of Georgia Tech football….this vicarious living will have to substiute for “a win over the Dawgs. The best hope for Georgia Tech fans in finding relief from “their habitual abusers” is to become SEC fans…of SEC schools which actually have a chance of defeating the Bulldogs. It ’s the next best thing to “actually winning”. For Georgia Tech fans…this rather pathetic ploy is not such a bad idea when one seriously contemplates reality.

Dawg Tired

November 25th, 2012
4:37 pm

11:39 PM November 24 post – Being put in the same category as “stupid” folks and “Democrats” is very painful. I’m a Republican with graduate degrees who happens to be a Dawg fan.

BTW, there is no reason why Tech can not be successful in football. I actually thought CPJ was going to restore the program back to being competitive, if not greatness, when he first arrived on the Flats. He has admittedly not turned out to be the coach I thought he would be. Georgia Tech has a great history in football. I long for it to return to greatness. It was good when Tech and UGA had great games that all of us should remember. Don’t blame this on academics or location. Atlanta is a great city. Tech is a great school with a rich history in athletics. These things go in cycles. Tech will be back. For that to happen, It would appear that a new coach with a fresh start is needed.

Iluvnutella

November 25th, 2012
5:08 pm

This is all on Coach Fish-fry….he didnt prepare his team to play, and it showed. He cannot coach at this level against the talent of leet D1 programs.

Rick in Macon

November 25th, 2012
5:21 pm

I’ve always been a defender of Paul Johnson, but it’s time for him to go…get rid of the entire coaching staff and put every player’s job up for competition. Both the offense and defense looked totally unprepared for the game. It was absolutely embarrasing. Johnson needs to resign, Tech needs to forego any bowl play, and all coaches fired immediately. Find some players who have heart and want to win.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

November 25th, 2012
5:35 pm

Auburn today picked up the tab on 11 million for the staff to be gone. If GT has all the smart folks that make so much money they why don’t they send the middle school football coach packing? The ACC is a joke at best and you still can’t win and you will never win with PJ. Suck it up and buyout the guy. At least act like you wish to compete.Mark Richt has Georgia all to himself recruiting and is about to strike it even more Richt with the auburn failure.

Michael

November 25th, 2012
5:48 pm

With SEC expansion Tech may luck out and lose UGA from their schedule. They can start an actual rivalry with Ga State or Ga Southern because this one with UGA ended long ago. It’s worse than UGA’s run against Florida.

JoeFan

November 25th, 2012
6:25 pm

Since Tech currently has no AD, the the prospect of replacing CPJ this year is near zero. He’ll get one more year and unless by some miracle he takes recruiting to another level, adds more imagination to his offense and discovers how to play defense and special teams, then 2013 promises to be more of the same. If I were Tech I would decline to play in the ACCCG and a bowl game and use the time to focus on building the program. It is a mess that regretfully can’t be corrected until the fans and the administration demand it

fan

November 25th, 2012
6:36 pm

Two losers playing for a meaningless trophy and it’s a disgrece that Georgia Tech is there at all.

damngooddawg

November 25th, 2012
6:50 pm

It would be stupid and a waste of money to buy out CPJ with only one year left on his contract. Next season wouldn’t be any better with some new coach due to the lack of quality players and the fact that rebuilding would be a 4 or 5 year project at best. I’m just sayin’.

damngooddawg

November 25th, 2012
6:54 pm

By the way…and this is a change for me…there’s nothing wrong with the O that a good passing quarterback wouldn’t cure. We were so eaten up with protecting the triple option run that a credible passing threat would have put a lot more points on the board. The problem for Tech is recruiting. Of course CPJ famously said that recruiting is overrated.

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
7:28 pm

@ Bucky S..please show me where I said we would not be good in basketball next year..you must be a moron to read what I wrote and get that I say we wont be any good next year..all I said was that CG hasnt won yet..CPJ won the ACC in the 2nd year and we were on top of the world..Is CG going to win the ACC this year?????I just said he hasn’t won anything yet..also, what does CBRoss teams have anything to with what I said..I said that the offense has nothing to do with getting great defensive players..you have to a stupid moron to get your thoughts out of my previous comments

DinoE

November 25th, 2012
7:31 pm

enough of this misery–johnson has to go, asap! Fire him and hire a real coach running a real offense, not the mickey mouse wishbone.

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
7:32 pm

@JoeFan..why would you give up the ACCCG and bowl game..that means the team cant practice again until next spring..you want to give up 5 weeks of practice..please tell me how this will help us

DrC

November 25th, 2012
7:42 pm

Congrats Bulldogs on another thumping (Paul Johnson’s words) of the Yellowjackets. I enjoyed being at the game even though it was over about midway through the 1st quarter. I have been watching Georgia – Georgia Tech football for over 50 years and never has there been this much ongoing disparity in the football programs at the two schools.

1 4 GT

November 25th, 2012
7:44 pm

Let’s say the NFL does ban blocking below the waist. Then there will be a great hue & cry to ban tackling below the waist because more knees and ankles are torn up by being tackled. The NCAA, in all it’s infinite wisdom, follows suite in each step. Let’s see now. No blocking above the shoulders and below the waist. Also, no tackling below the knees plus hitting above the shoulders is already banned. HMMMMMMM!! What’s next, all these behemoths running around in all that garb plus a kite’s tail flying in the breeze behind them as they run around trying not to be tagged. THAT’s IT! FLAG FOOTBALL!! Wanta talk about the death knell for your favorite sport & all the $$ it brings in?? HMMMMMMMMM? (tongue-in-cheek sarcasm fully intended) But, I can see this scenario being played out. The sissification (likely not a real word) of the USA continues.

GT TN

November 25th, 2012
7:45 pm

Tennessee
Arkansas
Auburn
NC State
Boston College
Kentucky
California
Purdue
Oregon (if CK takes a pro job)

All of these schools will be looking for new football coaches..so, for everyone that says fire CPJ please tell me who will hire..please go back and look at the canidates for the job when Tech hired CPJ..look at them and look at where they are today..so please let me know who we will get as a head coach if we fire CPJ

1 4 GT

November 25th, 2012
7:49 pm

Folk can talk about Stanford, ND, Vandy, Northwestern or which ever school comes to mind & their tuff academic requirements matching up with GT or even more all they want. And those schools being able to recruit the better athletes ala the Bammers & Georgies and their ilk. They forget that those schools have the same broad based curricula that georgie & bammer have. And that GT has a very limited curricula with not even half the majors/schools of study of the other schools. Hell, the Ga BOR has even taken schools of study (School of Commerce in 1933) away from GT & put it in Athens. Tech did get the Ivan Allen Business College thru the good graces of the BOR, but there is no Urban Studies, Women’s Studies, Journalism or any of the multitude of majors that the other Universities have. Anyone that does not admit to this difference just does not want to acknowledge the difference this makes in recruiting. It is not an excuse, it is a fact. A kid can go to Tech and have a narrow selection of majors or go to a university like georgie and have over 170 choices for his undergrad major or go to Tech & have 36 choices for his undergrad major (count them for yourself as I did). I/we are not making excuses, just stating facts. If anyone wants to deny this fact, have at it. Stanford, ND, Vandy & the other high academic requirement schools have way more than 36 undergrad majors, I guarentee that. Heck, Tech only offers 113 degrees total=36 undergrad, 47 masters & 30 doctorates. Selah!

majordawg

November 25th, 2012
8:31 pm

The Ghost

November 24th, 2012
5:12 pm
@ A mutt……….What the heck is a Scloar??? I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you are not one.

GREAT job catching that typo! I bet you’re hell in those 8th grade debates. BTW, he was making reference to the fact that UGA seems to pile up the Rhodes and Fullbright Scholars at a greater rate than GIT.

But, why do we always seem to engage in some deep philosophical analysis of academic standards the week after the football game, on the sports blog. If that was what we truly cared about, would we be here?

majordawg

November 25th, 2012
8:45 pm

@ Buzzman..at least he won with Gailey players..Gailey couldnt win with them..

Funniest thing so far, by a longshot.

hind tit

November 25th, 2012
9:05 pm

Like i said yesterday, Tech will never have a defense that can stop a pro style offense when all they have to practice against is the triple option type player. How can you prepare a defensive game plan when the offensive players can’t mimic the pro style offense. The defense was pretty good in cpj first year because he had kids on defense that practiced against a pro style offense but as the years have gone by these kids have moved on and so goes the defense. The only real practice the defense gets is on game day and shows. It’s going to get worse.

1 4 GT

November 25th, 2012
9:07 pm

majordawg….you should have more Rhodes & Fulbright Scholars. You have about 3 times the students per annum. It’s only simple math by the simplest logic. More students = more candidates! DUH!

WnE

November 25th, 2012
10:13 pm

re:
1 4 GT
November 25th, 2012
7:44 pm

Let’s say the NFL does ban blocking below the waist. Then there will be a great hue & cry to ban tackling below the waist because more knees and ankles are torn up by being tackled. The NCAA, in all it’s infinite wisdom, follows suite in each step. Let’s see now. No blocking above the shoulders and below the waist. Also, no tackling below the knees plus hitting above the shoulders is already banned. HMMMMMMM!! What’s next, all these behemoths running around in all that garb plus a kite’s tail flying in the breeze behind them as they run around trying not to be tagged. THAT’s IT! FLAG FOOTBALL!! Wanta talk about the death knell for your favorite sport & all the $$ it brings in?? HMMMMMMMMM? (tongue-in-cheek sarcasm fully intended) But, I can see this scenario being played out. The sissification (likely not a real word) of the USA continues.
______________

When the NFL came up with penalizing the “horse collar” tackle, the NCAA had the same penalty in place in less than 2 seasons.

When the NFL started to penalize NON-SPEARING “high tackles” made with the shoulder and not the helmet, the NCAA did the same thing rather quickly.

When the NFL bans blocking below the waist (and they will), then look for the NCAA to quickly follow suit.

The TV dollars up for grabs will make the NCAA try to make their sport (CFB) look as much like the cash-rich NFL as possible.

Once that happens then what will Coach Moral Victory do?

Go to the high school ranks and claim that no one has ever stopped my system in “xyz years”?

WnE

November 25th, 2012
10:21 pm

re:
1 4 GT
November 25th, 2012
7:49 pm

Folk can talk about Stanford, ND, Vandy, Northwestern or which ever school comes to mind & their tuff academic requirements matching up with GT or even more all they want. And those schools being able to recruit the better athletes ala the Bammers & Georgies and their ilk. They forget that those schools have the same broad based curricula that georgie & bammer have. And that GT has a very limited curricula with not even half the majors/schools of study of the other schools. Hell, the Ga BOR has even taken schools of study (School of Commerce in 1933) away from GT & put it in Athens. Tech did get the Ivan Allen Business College thru the good graces of the BOR, but there is no Urban Studies, Women’s Studies, Journalism or any of the multitude of majors that the other Universities have. Anyone that does not admit to this difference just does not want to acknowledge the difference this makes in recruiting. It is not an excuse, it is a fact. A kid can go to Tech and have a narrow selection of majors or go to a university like georgie and have over 170 choices for his undergrad major or go to Tech & have 36 choices for his undergrad major (count them for yourself as I did). I/we are not making excuses, just stating facts. If anyone wants to deny this fact, have at it. Stanford, ND, Vandy & the other high academic requirement schools have way more than 36 undergrad majors, I guarentee that. Heck, Tech only offers 113 degrees total=36 undergrad, 47 masters & 30 doctorates. Selah!
_____________________

Please STOP playing the Academics Card!

Even if ND, Stanford, Vandy, Northwestern do have “liberal arts majors”, the FACT remains that the rest of the students in the class that are NOT FB players probably made 1,500 on their 2-part SATs and a FB player competing in that Academic environment would have just as hard a time as a GT FB that majors in Business Admin that sits in classes where the rest of the Students made 1,250 on their 2-part SATs (the avg. SAT for GT’s non-Engr. majors).

In other words it is all relative, you can’t just ASSUME that since it is a liberal arts major that it HAS TO BE easier.

Also many of the SA’s that spurn GT and go to ND, Stanford, etc, do major in Business Admin or Econ like they would had they gone to GT.

Please stop playing the “Academics Card” and blame Coach Fish Fry’s Recruiting, you would come across as a lot more intelligent.

WnE

November 25th, 2012
10:31 pm

re:
1 4 GT
November 25th, 2012
7:49 pm

Folk can talk about Stanford, ND, Vandy, Northwestern or which ever school comes to mind & their tuff academic requirements matching up with GT or even more all they want. And those schools being able to recruit the better athletes ala the Bammers & Georgies and their ilk. They forget that those schools have the same broad based curricula that georgie & bammer have. And that GT has a very limited curricula with not even half the majors/schools of study of the other schools. Hell, the Ga BOR has even taken schools of study (School of Commerce in 1933) away from GT & put it in Athens. Tech did get the Ivan Allen Business College thru the good graces of the BOR, but there is no Urban Studies, Women’s Studies, Journalism or any of the multitude of majors that the other Universities have. Anyone that does not admit to this difference just does not want to acknowledge the difference this makes in recruiting. It is not an excuse, it is a fact. A kid can go to Tech and have a narrow selection of majors or go to a university like georgie and have over 170 choices for his undergrad major or go to Tech & have 36 choices for his undergrad major (count them for yourself as I did). I/we are not making excuses, just stating facts. If anyone wants to deny this fact, have at it. Stanford, ND, Vandy & the other high academic requirement schools have way more than 36 undergrad majors, I guarentee that. Heck, Tech only offers 113 degrees total=36 undergrad, 47 masters & 30 doctorates. Selah!
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LOU YOUNG our Starting CB was REJECTED or “wait listed” by Stanford and GT took him in in a NY-second, please stop playing the Academics Card, it makes you look bitter.

ND 12-0

Stanford 10-2

Northwestern 9-3

Vandy 8-4

All of these schools except NW has Georgia HS players that were Recruited by CPJ and TURNED down GT!

It is not an Academic issue, it is a FB ISSUE, GT is not an attractive “FB Option” for players that graduate from HS that are good students and can graduate from GT.

Players that turned down GT are having very good seasons playing for other colleges, they turned down GT for FB reasons not Academic Reasons, if GT had the track record of putting guys in the NFL like Miami or UGA then the recruits wouldn’t care about majoring in Business Admin.

Baseball Recruits don’t care about the narrow curriculum because GT puts a good number of players in the Majors and gets them drafted into MLB.

The more you play he Academics Card the sillier you look!

1 4 GT

November 25th, 2012
10:34 pm

God, I hate doing this! “Carnack”, in your not so infinite wisdom, you have missed my point completely. But, that isn’t really surprising since you twisted my statement to lambaste CPJ again! When all of this preventing “injuries” washes out of (in the NFL’s attempts to legislate injurious blows to any part of the body away, and it is headed that way) existence to prevent (the league hopes) class action law suits on behalf of those that willingly submitted their bodies to the obvious abusive, injurious hits by over developed super freaks of nature. If the trend to legislate injurious hits in the game, it will devolve into some form of flog football within 5 to 10 years. This sounds preposterous I know, but sit back, look at the legislation coming out of the NFL & the NCAA, think about why they are doing this and see what other logical conclusion you can reach. Keep in mind, the Georgia legislature tried to kill football completely in the late 1890’s (the Von Gammon case ring a bell?) and teddy Roosevelt wanted to impose national restrictions on the violence of the sport in the middle 1900’s.

1 4 GT

November 25th, 2012
10:45 pm

No one is playing the “academic card” “Carnack”. I am merely stating the facts as they are. Simply showing the Georgie dwags the “academic facts” that do exist, of which you must be one. I know full well what the problems are & if I was one of these kids & thought I had a legitimate shot at the NFL & just wanted to play ball & hopefully live of the paychecks from that & play golf ala Sir Charles Barkley, I probably wouldn’t pick GT either. If I was of a more realistic bent and truly believed the NFL would find me even if I played at Hofstra, but more importantly, if I wanted an education that was valued world wide, there are only a few schools I would take a real hard look at & Georgie ain’t one of ‘em.

Preston

November 25th, 2012
11:43 pm

Don’t know why a LOT of people on these blogs say that UGA has a lot of 5 star players. Most of them are three and four stars with an occasional 5 star in the mix. Bama and Florida get most of the 5 stars.

Preston

November 25th, 2012
11:49 pm

In fact I was just looking at the 29 players (so far) in the ‘13 class and don’t see any 5 stars.

old dog

November 26th, 2012
7:46 am

To Hell with Tek, today, tomorrow and every other day!

old dog

November 26th, 2012
7:55 am

Hey 14GT…Next time you need a Medical Doctor, an Attorney, a Pharmacist or a Veterinarian, I’m betting you can’t find one that got any one of those degrees from Tek. Save that academic sheet for someone else. There are good trade schools all over the state.

old dog

November 26th, 2012
7:55 am

Hey 14GT…Next time you need a Medical Doctor, an Attorney, a Pharmacist or a Veterinarian, I’m betting you can’t find one that got any one of those degrees from Tek. Save that academic sheet for someone else. There are good trade schools all over the state.

old dog

November 26th, 2012
7:55 am

Hey 14GT…Next time you need a Medical Doctor, an Attorney, a Pharmacist or a Veterinarian, I’m betting you can’t find one that got any one of those degrees from Tek. Save that academic sheet for someone else. There are good trade schools all over the state.

AWJ

November 26th, 2012
7:56 am

2 Points

1) The academic argument is laughable for GT’s athletic department. The number of engineering majors on Tech’s football team is irrelevant because there are almost ZERO engineering or diffucult majors at all on the football team. There are plenty of fluff majors for those guys, they are already enrolled in them. Look at their media guide and see for yourself…

2) The reason their defense is so bad is a direct result of their offense. They have to go against an oiffense that NOBODY else runs in practice and scrimmages. The only looks their defense gets against normal offenses are when they go against the scout team. Don’t you think there is a strong correlation (C’Mon math guys) between the fact their pass defense is so bad and all they ever do on offense is run the ball….

Jimmy Crack

November 26th, 2012
8:17 am

(It’s never the Michelin Man’s fault if they lose.)

Please Extend PJ’s Contract….FOREVER!!!

- Signed, ALL Dawg fans

BuzzBro

November 26th, 2012
8:30 am

If Tech could admit and somehow keep eligible all the special qualifiers they do at the University of Football in athens, they would be in the top 10 every year. Developmental studies–still rules at UgA!!!! Congrats!

Randy Rhino

November 26th, 2012
8:42 am

PJ needs to go…

Robert

November 26th, 2012
8:53 am

But, but, he’s a genius.

41 – 10. Same as it ever was.

Robert

November 26th, 2012
8:53 am

Snoop

November 26th, 2012
8:55 am

Georgia State gave UGA a better game than Georgia Tech did. Maybe the ghetto tech school boys should just terminat their football program and focus on basketball and baseball… It’s unlikely that they will ever be able to compete with UGA, at least during our lifetimes…

Lakedawg

November 26th, 2012
9:03 am

Not very often I offer any ncondolences for Tech, but they were the youngest team Dawgs have played this year. Believe there were only 4-5 senior starters on that team competing against a team with 110 defense starters that will be gone next year.

Course the Dawgs only started one senior on offense also.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
9:22 am

@ Snoop…can you tell what that Georgia State/UGA game score was again..true UGA fans have to love morons like you that call themselves UGA fans

The Great Houdini

November 26th, 2012
9:25 am

Here is an idea…Hire Gene Chizik as the Defensive/Recruiting Coordinator then raid Auburn’s recruits…The guy was may not be head coach material, but he knows defense and can recruit the big boys we will need to be competitive…just a thought.

JRDP

November 26th, 2012
9:47 am

To: Bamajacket
Re: FSU is better than Ga. Much better.

Yeah, right. That’s why they played so well against the Gators, who Georgia emasculated (81 yards rushing; 0 TDs)

Re: Get ready for a serious butt whipping next week. Seriously.

We’ll see about that. Seriously.

GT TN

November 26th, 2012
9:55 am

@ Snoop..what was the score again to the Georgia State/UGA game..you are a moron

Uga

November 26th, 2012
9:58 am

You sissies still whining about getting dumped on your braons. Thats SEC football for you punks. No more running in circles scoring 50 points. Good luck vs FSU.

Fuzzy Lumpkins

November 26th, 2012
9:58 am

Im tellin yall…. if GT hires Gailey as a recruitin coordinator after he gets fired from the Bills, they will have something special goin. Yesirre Bob, ifn’s he gets back to georgia, he could pull ‘nother Calvin out of his hat.

TampaDawg

November 26th, 2012
10:19 am

“BuzzBro
November 26th, 2012
8:30 am

If Tech could admit and somehow keep eligible all the special qualifiers they do at the University of Football in athens, they would be in the top 10 every year. Developmental studies–still rules at UgA!!!! Congrats!”

Being a loser is tough enough, being a bitter, classless loser takes talent. You got that down to a science though.

TampaDawg

November 26th, 2012
10:30 am

“The Great Houdini
November 26th, 2012
9:25 am

Here is an idea…Hire Gene Chizik as the Defensive/Recruiting Coordinator then raid Auburn’s recruits…The guy was may not be head coach material, but he knows defense and can recruit the big boys we will need to be competitive…just a thought.”

Yeah, bring in Gene. You know AU is under investigation because of their recruiting practices. Trooper and Luper are the problem guys there but that’s why they get recruits, not because Chizik is such a great recruiter.

TampaDawg

November 26th, 2012
10:34 am

“JRDP
November 26th, 2012
9:47 am

To: Bamajacket
Re: FSU is better than Ga. Much better.

Yeah, right. That’s why they played so well against the Gators, who Georgia emasculated (81 yards rushing; 0 TDs)

Re: Get ready for a serious butt whipping next week. Seriously.

We’ll see about that. Seriously.”

THIS ^^^^^^

FSU would be a 3 loss team in the SEC. UF was fairly one dimensional and the “vaunted” FSU defense couldn’t stop that ONE dimension. Yeah, when FSU holds the gators under 100, heck even 200 for that matter, rushing, then pump the Noles up.

This game

November 26th, 2012
11:47 am

is such a joke now, that commenting seems useless.
Thanks again for the laughs Tech, err “Perfect Option/Program on The Rise”.

Monroe

November 26th, 2012
1:10 pm

Hire back oleary from ucf–they are ready to run him out of town down there and he will need a job—he’ll work cheap for only a mil or two

Uncle Nick

November 26th, 2012
1:36 pm

Here Dawggy Dawggy….time for some real football. Game Over..enjoy the Outback Bowl.

Paul Johnson

November 26th, 2012
1:52 pm

For gosh sakes, fire me already!!

DawgByte

November 26th, 2012
2:30 pm

I’m in favor of Paul Johnson getting a contract extension and his Defensive Coordinator awarded with bronze bust placed in the Varsity parking lot! LOL!!!

Richt 11-1 against Tech

wreckmaniac

November 26th, 2012
2:58 pm

FSU may be a lot better than Tech but does it really matter ? FSU, Tech, Clemson, and Wake all emabarassed themselves against the SEC.
Until this basketball conference decides to play football, it will continue to be NCAA Lite.

It just football

November 26th, 2012
4:48 pm

Well……….
Tech DID WIN………………. the Coin Toss

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SGT CHRIS

November 27th, 2012
2:41 pm

simply put…everyone has caught up with the triple option…miami showed everyone that if you hit every eligible pair of hands that can touch the ball…that offense will go nowhere lol!!!

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