On Aaron Murray, the TO binge and those scoring Ogletrees
Alec Ogletree racked up major bonus points with this soaring interception. (AJC photo by Brant Sanderlin)
This post is an adjunct to the Georgia-Ole Miss game column, which can be found here.
1. Aaron Murray is pretty darn good. He was sacked five times in the first half, twice off play-action fakes. (Generally speaking, play-action should buy an extra second.) He wound up completing 21 of 28 passes for 384 yards and four touchdowns. The second touchdown came three seconds before the half after Murray pumped left, ducked right and threw long to Tavarres King. The third was a deep throw to Malcolm Mitchell down the right sideline for the touchdown that put Georgia ahead 21-10. Murray completed 13 of 15 second-half passes, with no sacks. Update: Murray now ranks sixth nationally in passing efficiency.
2. Five plays, four turnovers: Has there ever been a wilder sequence? For posterity’s sake, we recap the dizzying minute midway through the second quarter. Georgia’s Keith Marshall fumbled, recovered by Ole Miss. The Rebels’ Vince Sanders fumbled after catching a pass, recovery by Damian Swann. Todd Gurley rushed for five yards. (No turnover here.) Gurley carried again and fumbled, recovered by the Rebels. Bo Wallace threw long, the pass being intercepted by Alec Ogletree. Five plays, four TOs. Holy Toledo.
3. Zander Ogletree outscored his twin brother Alec 6-2. A fullback, Zander scored his first collegiate touchdown on a 8-yard burst in the third quarter. Eight minutes later, linebacker Alec would dump Ole Miss running back Jeff Scott for a safety. (Safeties are technically scored by teams, not individuals, but who cares?) Said Alec: “I’m sure he’ll try to joke on me.” Said Zander, whose given name is Alexander, speaking of familial bragging rights: “I’m the older brother (albeit by minutes) — it felt great.” Georgia publicists believed this to be the first time siblings had scored, even unofficially, in a Georgia football game. Basketball would be another matter: Think of Jarvis and Jonas Hayes, not to mention Coco and Kelly Miller.
By Mark Bradley
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Discount DoubleDawg
November 4th, 2012
6:29 pm
Agreed ddawg… Most of Murray’s critics have no clue.
shankit
November 4th, 2012
6:31 pm
Kentucky should bring in Chris Hatcher at Murray State. Coached at Kentucky under Hal Mumme and Mike (the Pirate) Leach, played under both of them at VSU, won the Harlan trophy at VSU, won a national championship at VSU as a player and a coach, coached Dusty Bonner at Kentucky, who led the SEC in passing as a sophomore, later coached him at VSU, where he won another national championship, and Bonner won two Harlan trophies. And, he beat me and the pro, with his partner Colson in the night championship in Golf at the Valdosta Country Club. Go Hatcher. Also, his Dad coached at Willingham in Macon, which gave our Wildcats in their heyday, their most fierce competition.
birdo
November 4th, 2012
6:34 pm
Bobo to Kentucky, hot off the press.
neutral observer
November 4th, 2012
6:35 pm
“LSU showed that Bama is beatable.”
Not really. lSU was at home in an electric atmospher, Mett had the game of his life and LSU played a nearly perfect game with no turnovers while Bsma had a couple of crucial fumbles and LSU also had few penalties. Even playing a near flawless game they still lost.
“Will we actually beat them?”
Nope. You would need a near perfect game in terms of penalties, turnovers, etc. in order to have a chance. And given Murray’s penchant for poor performances against the good to great teams Georgia has played and you realize UGA really doesn’t have much of a chance against Bama.
4 Dog
November 4th, 2012
6:35 pm
murray—best QB in the SEc—–mccarron is just a game manager type QB. Murray will light up alabama’s secondary in the sec title game—book it!
shankit
November 4th, 2012
6:38 pm
Chris Hatcher to Kentucky
neutral observer
November 4th, 2012
6:40 pm
“ain’t no defensive back gonna cover our receivers “cept for 4 seconds”
More delusions from the dawg fans. LSU has an elite corner in Tharold Simon that could cover any of the dawg receivers. And Bama’s top cover corner Milliner is projected as the top corner and a 1st round draft pick in the next draft. He would shut down Malcolm Mitchell or whoever the dawgs have.
shankit
November 4th, 2012
6:41 pm
Chris Hatcher won a national championship at VSU and won the Harlan trophy.
Played and coached under Ham Mumme and Mike Leach at VSU and Kentucky.
Coached Dusty Bonner at Kentucky, led the SEC as a sophomore at Kentucky.
Coached Dusty Bonner at VSU, Bonner won two Harlan trophies, and another
national championship at VSU. Brilliant coach, moves up to Kentucky.
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
6:42 pm
based in reality dawg fan
November 4th, 2012
4:52 pm
McGarrity will hurt UGA in post BCS era unless he schedules better OOC games…
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You said a mouthful there. The coward already has killed the previously scheduled Oregon series. He brought his sissy-boy philosophy with him from fla, which essentially means our OOC slate is filled with Class A high school teams. Hopefully the new BCS set-up will discourage this outright purchase of wins; i.e., we pay each marshmallow a million bucks to come to Athens and bend over.
Discount DoubleDawg
November 4th, 2012
6:42 pm
neutral observer-
You are right about one thing and that is that Georgia would need a near perfect game in order to beat Bama. The goods news is that although it is unlikely, it is possible. Bama should win any game they play as the #1 team in the country. With Saban and their athletes they should beat everyone. That said, Georgia has most of the ingredients needed to have a shot.
My fear is that our special teams will haunt us at some point this year. I could just see our Offense and Defense play a complete game all while missing an extra point or easy field goal.
Get Real
November 4th, 2012
6:43 pm
Get real fellas. Murray is an average or slightly above averarg quarterback, playing behind a below average SEC offensive line. He makes some bad decisions mainly because his line but him in some bad situations. McCarron is also an average quarterback playing behind an excellent offensive line. Easy for him to make good decisions. Both are average college quarterbacks, neither are great or pro propects.
neutral observer
November 4th, 2012
6:44 pm
“murray—best QB in the SEc—–mccarron is just a game manager type QB.”
4 Dog,
McCarron is a game manager? I doubt LSU agrees with you after he took Bama something like 70-80 yards in 43 seconds for the gamewinning td. McCarron also has 19 tds on the year and zero ints and is in the Heisman discussion. Murray I’m certain has quite a few ints and a much lower passer rating than McCarron. And he is not in the Heisman discussion- not even close. And the little pint sized guy is not a future NFL caliber qb due to his height. McCarron is.
Theus
November 4th, 2012
6:45 pm
Murray did look good…except for when Theus forgot how to block and allowed him to get slammed…this kid is terrible. I watched him block a teammate on one play that resulted in a sack! He blocked a teammate…they wear different color jerseys…how dumb do you have to be to block your own teammate, while two members of the opposing team run past you and crush your QB?!?! At what point do we quit blaming coaches and start holding players responsible? I can’t beleive we don’t have someone better…another example of a 5 star recruit living on his high-school glory…what a joke.
Discount DoubleDawg
November 4th, 2012
6:46 pm
Can an average QB playing behind a below average O line really throw for 80 TD’s in less than 3 years? Wow, you learn something new everyday…
Red Stick
November 4th, 2012
6:46 pm
It’s easy to say Miles’ decisions cost LSU the game but let’s look at those.
First of all, the decision to fake the FG was a poor decision on his part.
Yes LSU did miss a 54 yard FG attempt and Bama drove down and scored just before the half. Miles rarely tries FGs of that distance. He was just being aggressive which was what LSU had to do against the Tide.
LSU failed on an on-side kick. I thought it was a good call as Bama was not expecting it. Again he was being aggressive.
The Tigers did not convert a 4th and 1 in the 4th quarter. A FG would only have put LSU by 6. There is no guarantee anyway that we would have made the FG as Alleman has been inconsistent this season. I agree with Miles’ decision.
Many people, including just about everyone on this board gave LSU no chance against Bama. Many said LSU would get blown out. The Tigers were well-prepared and had a good game plan of throwing more which they did.
All coaches make mistakes. Saban and Smart kept running a zone blitz in the 2nd half even though LSU was able to have success against it.
This is not to take anything away from Saban nor the Tide as he’s a great coach and they are a solid team.
Miles deserves some criticism, as all coaches get when they lose. However he does deserve credit for a great game plan and having the players ready to play.
LSU has a young team and has had alot of injuries and attrition. I’m not making excuses but simply pointing out the facts. The Tigers are just not the team they were last year but they’re improving. I’m excited about Mettenberger and the future for LSU.
The bottom line is Alabama made the plays they needed to win. Great teams find a way to come
out on top. This is their year.
Geaux Tigers
Go SEC
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
6:47 pm
based in reality dawg fan
November 4th, 2012
6:06 pm
what do yall think about Kentucky maybe bringing in Jim Tressel?
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He’s out of the picture for awhile, but KY could do a lot worse than Tressel if he’s able to shed that off-field baggage.
shankit
November 4th, 2012
6:47 pm
Let’s see, McGarrity has two national championships under his belt at Florida
scheduling the likes of Charleston and others, working on his second East
championship in the SEC at Georgia, since his tenure. Lucky he came back to his Alma
Mata, look for good things ahead with his leadership.
neutral observer
November 4th, 2012
6:49 pm
Discount DoubleDawg,
The dawgs would have a shot but as I said they would need to play a nearly flawless game in terms of turnovers and penalties. A team that I believe really does have a shot at Bama is Texas A&M. They are playing better and better football and their offense is lighting it up now that their freshman qb has several games under his belt. I believe they have a shot against Bama this weekend.
Theus
November 4th, 2012
6:52 pm
Neutral Observer,
McCarron is 3rd ranked QB (174 passer rating) and Murray is 6th ranked QB (169 passer rating), so you’re wrong about Murrary having a “much lower” passing rating. Murray was also mentioned in the media as a dark horse Heisman canidate…so you’re wrong on that claim also. And Murray is currently a 2nd round projected NFL draft pick (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2013/QB). Wrong again. It’s okay to be a hater, but don’t be an ignorant liar also.
neutral observer
November 4th, 2012
6:52 pm
“Let’s see, McGarrity has two national championships under his belt at Florida
scheduling the likes of Charleston and others,”
Is there anyone in the sec who doesn’t play at least a couple of cupcakes per year? Teams like Buffalo,FAU, double aa Georgia Southern, UAB. Georgia plays these cupcakes just like anyone else.
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
6:54 pm
Red Stick
November 4th, 2012
6:46 pm
The bottom line is Alabama made the plays they needed to win. Great teams find a way to come
out on top. This is their year.
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Don’t forget last year. That was their year, too. Hell, might as well give ‘em this year, as well–unless “them Dawgs” can pull a miracle out of their tails.
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
6:55 pm
Maybe UGA will get a President at the University that will demand integrity and accountability from the AD and the rest of the UGA coaches and teams. Scheduling in conference is out of our hands but the OOC scheduling needs an upgrade. It may take a new UGA president to do do this…
neutral observer
November 4th, 2012
6:56 pm
Theus,
Perhaps at the beginning of the season Murray was a darkhorse candidate. But he is not in the discussion now except in the minds of perhaps some dawg fans. When its all said and done McCarron is a prototype NFL qb and will go higher in the draft than Murray will. Show me a game where Murray has produced against a big time team and perhaps I will be convinced. But you can’t. The defense won the UF game in spite of Murray.
Discount DoubleDawg
November 4th, 2012
6:57 pm
I agree about Texas A&M… They look scary good right now. Johnny Football has a believer in me. I can’t imagine how good this team will be in year 2 of Sumlin and Manziel.
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:01 pm
do do this…
this comment is currently under moderation, lol…
LHarding Dawg
November 4th, 2012
7:02 pm
I’m tired of people saying Georgia backed out of the Oregon game. Nothing could be further from the truth. Both programs suspended the home and home series because the PAC 10 went to 12 teams and the SEC went to 14 teams. It was a mutual decision by both teams becaues of their uncertain future schedules.
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
7:02 pm
shankit
November 4th, 2012
6:47 pm
Let’s see, McGarrity has two national championships under his belt at Florida
scheduling the likes of Charleston and others, working on his second East
championship in the SEC at Georgia, since his tenure. Lucky he came back to his Alma
Mata, look for good things ahead with his leadership.
neutral observer
November 4th, 2012
6:52 pm
Is there anyone in the sec who doesn’t play at least a couple of cupcakes per year? Teams like Buffalo,FAU, double aa Georgia Southern, UAB. Georgia plays these cupcakes just like anyone else.
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Doesn’t change the fact that McGarity’s a coward–and doesn’t make the despicable practice right just because “everybody else does it.” Besides, three (the number of OOC softies we play this year, not counting Tech) is NOT “a couple.”
It’s shortsighted and hurts the team in the big picture to play that kind of garbage; it certainly doesn’t prepare them for real competition. Why do you think UGA has struggled against the few good teams on its schedule the past several years?
It’s a disgusting, shameful practice than needs to come to an end.
neutral observer
November 4th, 2012
7:03 pm
Red Stick,
I know some Alabama fans who thought the game would be a close, hotly contested game. They sure as hell didn’t seem to think it would be a blowout. The one really big Alabama fan I am friends with seems to have a lot of respect for LSU’s program.
I think Les Miles would like to have some of those calls back like you said but I wouldn’t fault him for being aggressive. Nothing wrong with that. LSU played a great game and coulda shoulda won it. Bama just ended up making one more play than lSU at the end. Still a great game though.
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
7:06 pm
LHarding Dawg
November 4th, 2012
7:02 pm
I’m tired of people saying Georgia backed out of the Oregon game. Nothing could be further from the truth. Both programs suspended the home and home series because the PAC 10 went to 12 teams and the SEC went to 14 teams. It was a mutual decision by both teams becaues of their uncertain future schedules.
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Total BS. We both schedule a load of cupcakes–and could’ve made it work; we’re simply not willing to drop the high schools. Too chicken-shi* to play decent competition–and more than willing to buy wins/pad the schedule. Cowardice and slime at its worst.
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:07 pm
Netural observer
get real. Put McCarron behind UGAs young Oline and see how good he is…Also put Murray behind Alabama’s Oline and he would have been even better. It takes a team to make a qb look good or bad. Murray is the bomb. McCarron is not a better qb, no way, no how…
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
7:07 pm
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:01 pm
do do this…
this comment is currently under moderation, lol…
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Hell, half of mine aren’t even appearing at all. Almost as disgusting as buying Ws.
Vampire Bill
November 4th, 2012
7:09 pm
I have to agree that the dawgs have a ZERO percent chance to play for the NC even if they beat Bama in the SECCG. No one can overlook the ABSOLUTE butt kicking that SC put on us just a few short weeks ago. Streaky on again off again teams just don’t win National Championships.
Despite this, I’m a dawgs fan and will be pulling for them.
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
7:09 pm
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
6:55 pm
Maybe UGA will get a President at the University that will demand integrity and accountability from the AD and the rest of the UGA coaches and teams. Scheduling in conference is out of our hands but the OOC scheduling needs an upgrade. It may take a new UGA president to do do this…
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Could not agree more. Well said, KD. Integrity and accountability; we have absolutely ZERO when it comes to OOC scheduling.
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:09 pm
DawgNole
Which SEC team doesn’t schedule cupcakes???
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:14 pm
We have to play by the same rules as everybody we compete against. If SOS counts more next year, then McGarity needs to toughen-up. I think he needs to do it anyway, but we still have to play a similar schedule as the teams we play against. I for one, like common foes…
LHarding Dawg
November 4th, 2012
7:14 pm
Dawgnole – You really need to know what you are talking about before typing the bs you type. Espicially when it is wrong. You remind be of GTbob.
Now 7-19 Against End of Season Ranked Teams Since '05
November 4th, 2012
7:16 pm
@kingdaddy…..so whose fault is that. The O-line has been a problem EVERY year over the past 7 years of Richt’s reign. He loves the skill players, but you win in the trenches.
Bama’s D-line will KILL the O-line, especially that Theus guy who seems more interested in his hair than blocking
Vampire Bill
November 4th, 2012
7:16 pm
Hopefully dawgs will play Bama tough and give a good showing but they will lose the game at the line of scrimmage. Hats off to our offensive line, they have done well for their abilities but they just cannot measure up to the big uglies at Bama. Hate it but it’s true.
Now 7-19 Against End of Season Ranked Teams Since '05
November 4th, 2012
7:19 pm
Oh and you want a real schedule?? not a cupcake one like this year??
2013: @Clemson, SC, LSU, Fl
based on Richt’s record against ranked teams…..I predict 1-3 against the above
Now 7-19 Against End of Season Ranked Teams Since '05
November 4th, 2012
7:20 pm
@Vampire Bill…..exactly
Now 7-19 Against End of Season Ranked Teams Since '05
November 4th, 2012
7:21 pm
Bobo to Kentucky????
Please Lord, make it so…..X-mas early this year???
Discount DoubleDawg
November 4th, 2012
7:25 pm
Now 7–19…
You seem really proud that you figured out Bama has a stronger team… You should check out a very unique system called the “rankings”…
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:33 pm
7-19
you can take your cheapshots on out of here pardner. Sometimes shiz happens. We had several transfer or leave because of injuries. Our Oline was ready against a fine UF Dline and has gotten better as the year went on. Look at the roster. You will see Olinemen that will be ready to play for years. What are we now,8-1? Didn’t get there without our line. Coach Friend has done an admirable job considering the injuries añd transfers. Also, the best Oline Recruits wait until the end of recruiting period to sign, and we missed a couple. If we get Tunsil or one of the other goid LTs as a recruit, we will be set for years. Andrews will be a 4 year starter at center and will be one of the best we’ve had. Look at the roster before you speak again…
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
7:33 pm
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:14 pm
We have to play by the same rules as everybody we compete against. If SOS counts more next year, then McGarity needs to toughen-up. I think he needs to do it anyway, but we still have to play a similar schedule as the teams we play against. I for one, like common foes…
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There is no rule that says you have to play three cupcakes a year. Look at next year; we pick up Clemson–and old and natural rival that generates FAR more interest than Buffalo, Fla Atlatic, Coastal Carolina, New Mex St, Louisiana Lafayette, Idaho, Tennessee Tech, Central Michigan, Troy, Western Carolina, Ga Southern, blah blah blah.
I mean look at that lineup; all of them are UGA opponents from the past few years. And collectively, we’ve paid them millions to come to Athens and lose. Absolutely nauseating, and we have no business doing it–none whatsoever. Rules my azz.
As you suggested earlier, hopefully someone in a postion to do something about it will step up to the plate and put a stop to this immoral practice.
Fats G
November 4th, 2012
7:37 pm
I gots to eat dirt this week as I referred to Mr. Murray as “Pee Wee Herman” He took charge in the huddle in the Ole Miss game. No more “Pee Wee Herman” jokes from me.
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:39 pm
At the beginning of the year, some of the trolls laughed and laughed at UGA playing Ol Miss instead of Arkansas, lol. How did that turn out? Ol Miss beats Arkanny. Who knew UF would be as good as they are? Anyone??? Scheduling is funny business. As the year unfolds, so we learn…
Discount DoubleDawg
November 4th, 2012
7:44 pm
Dawgnole
The deal with scheduling really has nothing to do with being immoral or a coward. I even agree with you about what type of schedule I would prefer but not for the same reasons. In business, you always weigh risk/reward and you really can’t blame those in charge based on what the smart (and/or safe) schedule looks like. I only wish for a more challenging schedule for selfish reasons. As an avid college football fan I just prefer better match-ups. It’s more interesting… But if I were in charge and fully aware of all that goes on in and around Georgia football (which neither you or I can be) I might just be ok with scheduling the teams we have scheduled. It’s a business, like it or not.
kingdaddy
November 4th, 2012
7:46 pm
DawgNole
its hard to spin the pastries. They give you a false sense of security, no doubt…
DawgNole
November 4th, 2012
8:09 pm
Discount DoubleDawg
November 4th, 2012
7:44 pm
Dawgnole
The deal with scheduling really has nothing to do with being immoral or a coward. I even agree with you about what type of schedule I would prefer but not for the same reasons. In business, you always weigh risk/reward and you really can’t blame those in charge based on what the smart (and/or safe) schedule looks like. I only wish for a more challenging schedule for selfish reasons. As an avid college football fan I just prefer better match-ups. It’s more interesting… But if I were in charge and fully aware of all that goes on in and around Georgia football (which neither you or I can be) I might just be ok with scheduling the teams we have scheduled. It’s a business, like it or not.
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It’s WRONG, it’s cowardly, and it HURTS THE TEAM. THAT is what matters. If you’re “ok with scheduling the teams we have scheduled,” then you’re wrong. There is NO DEFENSE for buying Ws. NONE!
Mark Bradley
November 4th, 2012
8:10 pm
Former voice of the Falcons Jeff Hullinger also in attendance. He’s anchoring for 11Alive’s late news.