Video: On Al Groh’s firing and Georgia Tech’s future




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todd grantham

October 9th, 2012
4:13 pm

Mark, first?

Greg M.

October 9th, 2012
4:15 pm

Mark, second?

todd grantham

October 9th, 2012
4:15 pm

Interesting video. Maybe the next one will be about CMR.

todd grantham

October 9th, 2012
4:16 pm

There’s no such thing as second best in this blog.

Greg M.

October 9th, 2012
4:17 pm

Honey Bo Bo better be glad CPJ is not his head coach. Just saying…….

CMR

October 9th, 2012
4:19 pm

I want to play too. Todd, You’re FIRED.

todd grantham

October 9th, 2012
4:20 pm

@Greg, I couldnt agree with you more. Bobo was a PR disaster subbing for CMR on the call in radio show last night. He obviously didn’t want to be answering questions and his 2 or 3 word responses showed it.

todd grantham

October 9th, 2012
4:20 pm

CMR, better check with Dr. Adams on that.

FL Jacket

October 9th, 2012
4:21 pm

Oh here we go…

Regurgitated generalizations about Georgia Tech football.

More uninformed criticism about the meaning of “stars” in recruiting (don’t actually look to see what side of the ball our 4-stars are on, btw). More of the same “defense can’t prepare against the TO” when, just like any other college football program, our defense gameplans against a Scout offense running the opposition’s playbook.

CMR

October 9th, 2012
4:24 pm

Todd, I fired him too.

todd grantham

October 9th, 2012
4:26 pm

been drinking your own koolaid again, huh

todd grantham

October 9th, 2012
4:28 pm

earlier comment caught in filter about Bobo’s radio performance in CMR’s abscence. PR disaster.

The Old Coot

October 9th, 2012
4:38 pm

There is no question about Tech’s talent. There is little there.

Some Tech people have suggested hiring Kirby Smart. If Tech did not hire Mac McWhorter as their head coach after what he did for them in 2000 because he was a Georgia player and alum, they sure arn’t going to offer the head coaching job to UGA player and alum Kirby Smart.

Turning to a Georgia player and alum to teach them how to win?

Think about how it would look.

One After 909

October 9th, 2012
4:42 pm

Al Groh: “It’s been an honor to be a part of the legacy of Georgia Tech. I feel positive that this is a good time in life to move on to a new situation.”

Interpretation: Georgia Tech promised me every penny of my remaining contract as long as I said positive things about Georgia Tech.

Hale

October 9th, 2012
5:13 pm

How about what kind of changes to the defensive format? Will they still do a 3-4?

bb

October 9th, 2012
5:26 pm

Obviously, MB doesn’t actually watch GT football (I have wondered if he ever watches any sports) or is too lazy to try to develop a well thought out opinion. Go back and watch the Clemson game and tell me that GT’s defensive player are not as athletic as other BCS caliber teams. Watch to see if Sammy Watkins runs away from Tech’s DBs (he doesn’t). GT has players that are athletic enough to get the job done; so, why aren’t they??? It has to be coaching. Firing Groh was a step in the right direction.

chuck

October 9th, 2012
6:02 pm

Mark, your picture on your site doesn’t look like you on the video. Are you sure you are the same person?

GT Girl

October 9th, 2012
8:01 pm

One after 909-you must be a Beatles fan! i like your comments.

GT Girl

October 9th, 2012
8:08 pm

Mark- you’re a Kentucky fan right? How’s Kentucky’s defense this year? is it living up to D-1 standards? Hardly!

Stung

October 9th, 2012
8:12 pm

OLD

October 9th, 2012
8:23 pm

Chuck– got to be a OLD picture of MARK, cause on the video he look real OLD

Burdell

October 9th, 2012
9:21 pm

Old Coot–

Surely you jest.

Meet Brian Bohannon–Tech’s QB/B-Back coach and 4-year letterman WR from UGA.

D1-pr

October 9th, 2012
9:26 pm

tech’s not getting it done, even with 2-3 star players. the AD better make a change next year or he will lose his job too. i’m tired of this mediocrity

WnE

October 9th, 2012
10:11 pm

re:
FL Jacket
October 9th, 2012
4:21 pm

Oh here we go…

Regurgitated generalizations about Georgia Tech football.

More uninformed criticism about the meaning of “stars” in recruiting (don’t actually look to see what side of the ball our 4-stars are on, btw). More of the same “defense can’t prepare against the TO” when, just like any other college football program, our defense gameplans against a Scout offense running the opposition’s playbook.
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You still spout the same inane crap to defend CPJ’s Triple-SLOPtion Offense!

Just because GT has a “Scout Team” like everyone else that doesn’t mean our Scout Team is “equal” to everyone else’s Scout Team.

Our Scout Team is made up of players CPJ Recruited for his Triple-SLOPtion Offense, everyone else’s Scout Team is made up of players Recruited for “normal” or close-to-Pro-Style Offenses.

The players on OTHER TEAM’S scout teams that were recruited to play in Pro-Style Offenses can more accurately simulate what the GT Defense will face from more traditional Offenses.

CPJ has NEVER Recruited a QB that can simulate the arm strength that our defense saw from Miami’s Stephen Morris on those deep throws, ergo our Defense didn’t play very well vs. Miami’s deep throws.

Even though they played like crap vs. SCar, UGa has Murray at QB, which Scout Team QB can get our defense ready for the throws he will attempt in game situations?

CPJ doesn’t Recruit TEs, how can our LBs prepare to cover TEs in a GAME when CPJ has NO TEs on scholly.

Teams like UGA, BC, UNC, have TEs that might be playing in the NFL or will at least get a tryout, if we don’t recruit any TEs how can “any ol’ warm body” simulate a future NFL TE for our LBs & Safeties?

You’re simply repeating the talking points from CPJ’s Radio show with Wes and blindly defending CPJ without thinking or using your own logic.

Your comments above makes no sense.

Once upon a time Metteneberger was UGA’s scout team QB, now he STARTS for LSU, do you think that scout teamers like that can get a defense ready to play better than CPJ ’s scout teamers that were Recruited as non-passing, weak-armed, Triple-SLOPtion QBs?

You’re not thinking for yourself, you’re merely defending CPJ no matter how silly it makes you look.

okiemon

October 9th, 2012
10:20 pm

There is no question about Tech’s talent. There is little there.

QUOTE:
“Turning to a Georgia player and alum to teach them how to win?

Think about how it would look.”

We did OK with a Tennessee player and alum at one time.

wreckmaniac

October 9th, 2012
11:31 pm

Funny how the UGA crowd is laughing about this while calling for their own coach’s neck every 2 minutes.

Just Stop

October 10th, 2012
5:56 am

UGA is a wannabe in their weight class.

Except three decades ago when they found lightning in a bottle with #34, they’re always an also ran.

Always have been, always will be.

Tokyo jacket

October 10th, 2012
7:08 am

As much as I hate to say it, WnE might have a point about a scout team. Now, my instinct was to say that you can’t simulate every other team. Who can simulate Oregon’s offense? No scout team can replicate the best players in football. But, the TE comment and the deep ball comment were pretty logical. I would offer though that last year, Vad Lee had the arm to replicate any other QB in the ACC.

Reality Check

October 10th, 2012
7:24 am

Does MB purposefully pass himself off to be an innate idiot just to get paid to continually spew vitriolic venom about GT? Or is he just a disgruntled sports reporter stuck in a dead-end job for a has-been southern rag!

For more of the same BS, check back with us tomorrow…!!!

WnE

October 10th, 2012
7:59 am

re:
Tokyo jacket
October 10th, 2012
7:08 am

As much as I hate to say it, WnE might have a point about a scout team. Now, my instinct was to say that you can’t simulate every other team. Who can simulate Oregon’s offense? No scout team can replicate the best players in football. But, the TE comment and the deep ball comment were pretty logical. I would offer though that last year, Vad Lee had the arm to replicate any other QB in the ACC.
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You are right to a certain extent, even though you cannot simulate Oregon perfectly, if you are Auburn during their NC season then you have the Elite Recruits that were Recruited for a Pro-style (or similar) Offense that are Elite level BCS Athletes.

The problem with the Triple-SLOPtion is that the Offensive Recruits that say YES to that Offense out of HS are NOT the Elite Level Recruits and are basically the leftovers from the Major Programs in the BCS conferences.

So when you take those leftovers that got spurned by big-time BCS program that can’t make the Depth Chart at GT on offense, then that makes them DOUBLE-LEFTOVERS and when they get together on a Scout Team they cannot challenge our Defense and so our Defense does NOT see the athleticism that they will see on Saturdays.

This in turns stymies the development of our Defense and when you combine that with the already poor Recruiting by CPJ, PLUS the normal #’s of Recruits that do not pan out out, then what you get is a GT defense in which CAG was made to be the scapegoat for.

BTW, even when Vad Lee was the scout Team QB as a RS, he still could not simulate the arm strength of a Stephen Morris from Miami, that kid has got an eff’n cannon.

Now that Vad is #2 on the depth chart we once again have no one that can simulate what a BCS pass-first QB looks like under game conditions.

That might be part of the reason our DBs always seem to take bad angles, they see one speed & arm strength in practice ,and then they get hit with higher talent level and speed from passing teams in games.

yellow britches

October 10th, 2012
8:07 am

What does West Virginia have that we don’t have?

dtanner

October 10th, 2012
8:22 am

chan gailey avereged 7.3 wins per season in six seasons and got canned, johnson has avereged 7.7 wins in 4.5 seasons, is this what you would call significant improvement?

Cecil34

October 10th, 2012
8:30 am

The question that has to be answered is “Has Paul Johnson elevated this program?” and the answer clearly is no!

He beat UGA the first year and has lost since.

Tech performed better the first couple of years than they have the last couple.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a program going in the right direction.

The recruiting is suffering under Johnson’s watch, and I was no fan of Gailey’s either.

It is apparent there is a fall off in talent on the defensive side of the ball.

I think the TO can be run with who he has, perhaps with an upgrade at the QB position.

I don’t care who they bring in there, or what prior program he is from, as long as he can elevate this program and that starts by recruiting.

Johnson appears to not be capable of any meaningful recruiting on the D-1 level.

Patience is clearly running low with Johnson.

WnE

October 10th, 2012
8:34 am

re:
yellow britches

October 10th, 2012
8:07 am

What does West Virginia have that we don’t have?
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A 6-3 220lb QB with an accurate and very strong arm that is a great deep passer, I’m talking Dan Fouts, Norm Van Brocklin, Troy Aikman, that kind of great deep passer.

They also have fast WRs with great hands that catch everything and run great pass patterns.

GTJohn

October 10th, 2012
8:36 am

I agree with the comment about Mac McWhorter – I liked him and he did a great job. I wish he had been given the opportunity. If he had, we probably would have gotten better coverage in the AJC also.

GTJohn

October 10th, 2012
8:38 am

Remember, Bud Carson did not work out too well for Tech either and then certain alumni tried to smear him, However, he came out way ahead with the steel curtain in Pitt. As long as the alumni have a signaificant voice in choosing coaches, we will never get the best.

Buzz2011

October 10th, 2012
8:50 am

Bradley is a leghumper lover! He knows little of our program.
He loves our offense, but longs for Tech loses. You need to be
addressing your overranked Dogs this week…Didn’t you tab
them as national champs? Galling…………..

DeepDarkTruth

October 10th, 2012
9:09 am

If you honestly believe that you need to run a gimmick offense to compete, then you should seriously consider the possibility that you are simply playing in the wrong league.

MC

October 10th, 2012
9:11 am

Speaking of Alum…with all that big money I keep hearing GT men make it seems a couple of phone calls could have PJ’s contract bought out by lunch. They can do that over at UGA. Is that a myth too? Right up there with GT football academics.

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

October 10th, 2012
9:24 am

Fact is neither GT or UGA value $$$$ football enough to fix their problem. The AD at GT has a big problem with Paul’s contract that he can’t fix and UGA has the same issue plus the hypocrite president loves Richieboy. You fans will just have to deal with it as best you can because you don’t matter at this point…but you might come 2013 when ticket sales drop as well as contributions.

Birmingham Jacket

October 10th, 2012
9:37 am

Bradley is right. It’s a personnel issue, more than a coaching issue.

Said it before, will say it again:

“When the majority of the players you sign in February, only have other offers to Wake Forest, Duke, Vanderbilt and U.Conn—well…. Your program will start to look a lot like Wake, Duke, Vandy and U.Conn.”

As a head coach, you have got to sign TALENT. It doesn’t matter how you do it, even if it means a “flunk-gate” every 10 years or so. But RECRUIT WELL.

zeke

October 10th, 2012
10:46 am

Something else is wrong with this! Al Groh is a great defensive coach and has proven it time and again!
There is something rotten at GT!

Duke of Earl

October 10th, 2012
11:33 am

@Birmingham Jacket

Duke is looking pretty good right now. Maybe the coaching actually does matter?

WnE

October 10th, 2012
11:37 am

re:
Duke of Earl

October 10th, 2012
11:33 am

@Birmingham Jacket

Duke is looking pretty good right now. Maybe the coaching actually does matter?
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Dook’s schedule is back-loaded, we need to check back in 4 weeks to see how Dook is doing.

AllTech

October 10th, 2012
11:42 am

tech can pay the money to hire a real, big time coach. Instead, they pay less to get a wishbone coach and mediocre assistants. Strange, indeed.

Duke of Earl

October 10th, 2012
11:47 am

@WnE

No need to wait to see how Tech is doing.

Tech Man

October 10th, 2012
12:24 pm

We’ll beat Boston College-loose to BYU, North Carolina, & Georgia. Duke game is a toss up.. End result is a 4 and 8 season. CPJ-you’re the man, either do something about it or submit your resignation-simple as that.

GTBob

October 10th, 2012
12:41 pm

Speaking of Alum…with all that big money I keep hearing GT men make it seems a couple of phone calls could have PJ’s contract bought out by lunch.

Sorry, but athletics are a secondary concern to most Tech Alumni. Most are going to contribute to the school before the football team and really aren’t that concerned with who the coach is.

jay h

October 10th, 2012
12:45 pm

What does West Va have that GT doesn’t? How about 5 wins and 0 losses….

Stinger 2

October 10th, 2012
2:07 pm

Hard to believe all these people with Tech in their tag names are really GT fans.
They are begining to sound like UGA fans who expect their team to win every game and a championship every year. Back off boys, its not going to happen with either school especially at GT. We need to either offer positive support or those who will not should find another team to root for.