Notre Dame to the ACC, but not in football? It’s still a big deal

ACC commish John Swofford: He's earning his money, you'd have to say. (AP photo)

ACC commish John Swofford: The man is earning his money, you'd have to say. (AP photo)

Well, it’s official. The ACC is bigger than the SEC.

OK, only by a margin of one. But you’d have to admit: In college football, Notre Dame is a pretty big one.

OK, so there’s an asterisk, and a pretty big one to boot: Notre Dame is joining the ACC in every conference sport except football. But the Irish have committed to playing five football games every season against ACC opposition, and that can’t help but heighten the profile of a league that, at least in football, could stand some heightening.

And you’ve have to think that Notre Dame agreeing to play five games against the ACC only clears the path for the Irish to commit to playing a full conference slate someday soon. (There are press conferences scheduled for later in the day, so maybe we’ll know more then.) As they say in England, and perhaps in Ireland: In for a penny, in for a pound.

Back in a bit with more. And before you get all a-dither: No, I do NOT think this means the ACC has become a better football league than the SEC. But I do think this is another good step by John Swofford and his crew, and it wasn’t so long ago that we wondered if Swofford’s league had any credibility left.

(Here, as threatened, is the longer take on Notre Dame and the ACC.)

By Mark Bradley

335 comments Add your comment

Frank Lane

September 12th, 2012
11:11 am

Not big deal to me. Who cares”

Kevin

September 12th, 2012
11:12 am

As a UConn grad this just sucks with the Big East brand taking another body blow. Really thought the Huskies would be the next ones into the ACC but I guess not.

Ace

September 12th, 2012
11:19 am

UConn and Rutgers will step into the Octagon to fight for the final slot in the 16. Consolation prize to the loser is the Big 10.

Wes Mantooth

September 12th, 2012
11:20 am

GT Grad

September 12th, 2012
11:21 am

I definitely like getting ND but I had the half in. I mean I thought we were all or nothing. I hope there is some kind of stipulation like if we get a 16th school they join all in.

GT Grad

September 12th, 2012
11:21 am

Sorry hate not had the half in

jj

September 12th, 2012
11:23 am

So this Notre Dame you speak of, they play COLLEGE football? Are you sure?

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 12th, 2012
11:23 am

Always enjoyed GT playing ND. This exciting for the ACC and for ND.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 12th, 2012
11:24 am

Benjamin

September 12th, 2012
11:25 am

Better than SEC football? Agreed with you, it doesn’t mean that.

But it certainly does, as you mentioned, mean that the ACC profile is certainly rising. An indirect benefit to this, for the conference, is that those five games a year will be played on national television through ND’s NBC contract. Adding a storied program like Notre Dame to the fold for at least five Saturdays a year and giving the conference more national exposure is, as you put it, a win for Swofford and the conference.

Habersham Dawg

September 12th, 2012
11:25 am

This is a great move by the ACC. Notre Dame brings an established football tradition and I believe they will eventually be included in football as well as the other ACC sports. Congrats ACC.

GIVE ME A BREAK

September 12th, 2012
11:26 am

Would love to see UConn follow.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
11:29 am

Good to see ND found a conference weak/dumb enough to accept this Deal!
We’re all in — well, except for the sport that matters.
The ACC look like fools.

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
11:29 am

Mark…I disagree. I think this is more pomp than circumstance. If ND made a full commitment, it would be a great boon for the ACC. As far as eventually working out to a full slate of games…that didn’t work out for the Big East. Essentially, ND is strutting more than Texas. ND gets the revenue sharing of a conference for basketball, keeps their Independent status for football, likely gets a nice slice of the football television rights, etc. I think the only way ND commits to a full slate of games is if college football gives a huge advantage to conference winners at the expense of independents.

At the end of the day, it sets a very bad precedent for any future teams of substance joining. It may ultimately turn-off schools such as FSU, Miami, and Clemson.

Moobs Johnson

September 12th, 2012
11:30 am

Desperate move by both parties seeking to remain relevant in the CFB world. Ask the Big East how much having Notre Dame in all sports but football worked out for them.

Gordon

September 12th, 2012
11:32 am

The NBC contract expires in 2015. Expect ND and maybe Navy to join full time after that. ACC will have north and south divisions after that.

Whose great idea was this?

September 12th, 2012
11:32 am

It is only a matter of a couple of years before they are “full” members, with, as others have already said, UConn being the 16th school member (they are just waiting for Jim Calhoun to disappear so that his slime does not taint the league)…

SimpleDawg

September 12th, 2012
11:33 am

Further evidence of The Domers’ fall from prominence….. The Big 10 plus 2 would be their natural fit, but instead ND looks for low hanging fruit. Easier pickings in the ACC for football. Basketball will gain from ACC membership.

Shameful developments…..

Bryan G.

September 12th, 2012
11:33 am

I remember reading that Notre Dame used to be good at football. I’m not that old, so can someone confirm that for me??

Bammer

September 12th, 2012
11:33 am

Silly Bloggers is correct. This is nearly to the deal they’ve had with the Big East for a good while now and it didn’t achieve anything either.

Benjamin

September 12th, 2012
11:33 am

Moobs, how is it desperate from either end?

The ACC isn’t the SEC when it comes to football, but they’ve got several teams that are competitive on the national level, as well. Adding Notre Dame is just a bump in profile, not an act of desperation.

And as for Notre Dame, they’re back on the rise. Getting the opportunity to play stronger football programs than an independent schedule would allow with the way the conferences are aligning is a win-win for them, too. Notre Dame is not even remotely “desperate” when it comes to football – they make more revenue off that program alone than many colleges in the nation make cumulatively off all their sports programs combined.

AtlantaDude

September 12th, 2012
11:34 am

Which coast is Indiana on?

Gordon

September 12th, 2012
11:35 am

Another big point about this is that the exit fee in the ACC is now 3 times the average operating budget, which translates to over $50M. It will be much more difficult to poach an ACC school now.

AzCat

September 12th, 2012
11:35 am

What Moobs said….

dawgfan

September 12th, 2012
11:36 am

I haven’t paid attention to Notre Dame football in years. I’m an SEC guy and I tend to only follow the top 25 teams from other conferences. If I’m feeling nostalgic or have just watched Rudy I might turn on a Notre Dame game but otherwise I have very little interest in their program. I can only assume they’re up to their usual ways of losing bowl games and getting pounded by the 2 or 3 good teams that they play every year. Would that be accurate?

Mike Geigerman

September 12th, 2012
11:37 am

FSU, Miami, GT , Clemson and Va Tech only.. for football.. Home and away

AzCat

September 12th, 2012
11:39 am

@Benjamin: Take a look at ND’s independent schedule for this year and then tell me how it’s going to be upgraded by taking on five ACC schools? Even if they cherry pick, which ND is smart enough not to do, five ACC schools is a push, and I’m being generous with the push.

Habersham Dawg

September 12th, 2012
11:39 am

I will buy a ticket when Notre Dame play Georgia Tech in Atlanta, just so I can shout “Rudy, Who!”. I hate that movie, I want to see the film of him playing against Georgia Tech. Us Dawgs can poke you Techies, but by Gawd, nobody else better do it.

Rudy is Fiction.

Time

September 12th, 2012
11:39 am

25 years ago, this would have been a big deal. Now, it’s just another 3rd tier program joining a 3rd tier conference. Yawn.

George Zimmerman

September 12th, 2012
11:40 am

Notre Dame should get 0 BCS special consideration when it comes to playing in a BCS Bowl or playoff; it should be strictly on their ranking. Now let me take off my ND hoodie.

Grimace

September 12th, 2012
11:40 am

RUDY…RUDY….RUDY…RUDY

don

September 12th, 2012
11:40 am

Notre Dame, Notre Dame, what is so great about Notre Dame. Why are they treated so special. Either join the ACC or don’t. Why is it a partial entry? Why are they ranked # 20? If they win this weekend they will be #1!!!!! I am so sick of the over ranked,pompous,holier than thou team and its’ alum. I am sick of their crap! Yes, I hate Notre Dame, always have, alway will.

The Bear

September 12th, 2012
11:42 am

Who really cares? You join a conference or not. Don’t cherry pick what you are going to be a part of.

The Ugly Truth

September 12th, 2012
11:42 am

Well there goes the Notre Dame football program.

Look at what happened to FSU and Miami.

The ACC could drag down the New York Giants with their mediocrity.

Al

September 12th, 2012
11:42 am

Looks like the ACC just got weaker.

JacketFanMarcus

September 12th, 2012
11:42 am

Ho-hum.

These leagues are getting too big and spread out. I keep forgetting that Boston College is in the ACC.

Now we gonna have teams in Indiana, New York, and Pennsylvania soon. That’s too far away to build up any natural rivalries

.

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
11:42 am

SimpleDawg…I don’t think it is the level of comeptition that kept them from the Big 10. I never imagined saying it, but I believe the ACC may have actually passed up the Big 10 in football (for the time being). If the Big 10 had offered the same sweetheart deal, ND would have taken it. This deal just reeks of favortism.

The only way I see this working out…and it will be a long, long while…is if the playoff moves to 8 teams with six automtic qualifiers from major conferences. The issues with this are…will it happen, when will it happen, and will the ACC even resember the league that it does now? Add to that, if the ACC wants to further expand, they can’t. You need another two teams to join to give you 16. You can’t consider ND a “15th” team at this point.

Think about it…16 teams in two 8 team divisions. You have 7 division games, two dedicated counter-division games, one traditional rivalry…which leads to two open game dates. Now, if five teams play ND, does that count as a conference game? It can’t. There are just so many obstacles and limitations set for any future expansion with the ACC now. I get a headache even thinking about it. While I don’t know what exactly to expect, I see some significant backlash to this not too far down the road.

DS CE'91

September 12th, 2012
11:43 am

As a Tech alum, not on board with this at all. I know its all about the $, but having at least the perception of equality is also paramount (ask the Big 12). The ACC will regret this.

hotrod

September 12th, 2012
11:43 am

what five schools are they playing? the good ones or the weak ones, step up and play clemson, va tech every year

hotrod

September 12th, 2012
11:45 am

probably wake, nc, nc state, maryland, weak football, come get some in Athens, then we will talk!!

Moobs Johnson

September 12th, 2012
11:47 am

The ACC already has Duke, which competes in all sports but football. Why does it need Notre Dame?

Vulture

September 12th, 2012
11:47 am

“Us Dawgs can poke you Techies, but by Gawd, nobody else better do it.”
I like that! It’s hard to argue that it is not better for the ACC to add ND than another conference. Going to be interesting what happens next.

jim 70

September 12th, 2012
11:48 am

a year ago i said it would be great if ND and PSU joined the ACC, makes it a dominate football conference. However with the problems at PSU, would have been a bad idea.

we need another school, but not uconn/rutgers – get a dominate team.

great to have two divisions – VT, UMd, BC, Syr, Pitt, ND, VA, Other as the north, others as south.

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
11:49 am

DS CE…you just concisely summed up what I was trying to get across in three paragraphs…favortism does not work out. The Big 12 says they are stronger than ever, but I find that hard to believe. The conference almost dissolved twice in two years due to Texas.

Reggie's Balls

September 12th, 2012
11:51 am

I love how all of the UGA and SEC fans come on this blog talking trash. They play in a conference of jailbird thugged out low class scum and now that class is joining class they can’t handle it. The realization is that the ACC gets the scholar athletes and the SEC gets the trash. You need to spend less time blogging and more time at the Athens Clarke County jail seeing which dog needs to be bailed out before this weekends game.

Pitbull

September 12th, 2012
11:51 am

Notre Dame joining the ACC is like Warreb Buffett moving to Jonesboro.

It just doesn’t make any sense.

H

September 12th, 2012
11:52 am

I hope this isn’t the same stupid deal they had with the Big East…giving them priority bowl slots even when they stink. Their relevance has been shrinking for years. Whats the point?

Big Dog 89

September 12th, 2012
11:55 am

The ACC is a complete joke. There may be two teams in the ACC that could compete with Vandy.

ND who?

September 12th, 2012
11:56 am

It’s rediculous that Conferences still fall all over themselves for ND. Why should they be able to have special priviledges in College Football that the other schools don’t?

ND has not been relevant in football for years; maybe decades. Make them join for football or they shold be left in the cold.

Let's Laugh

September 12th, 2012
11:56 am

How is Notre Dame a boost to the ACC???. They have not be relevant in football in 24 years (1988 NC) cept maybe in Tyyyroonnne Willingham’s mind (he was quoted as saying “he never had a bad day”).

NC’s (1936-present)

Bama (9) 1961, 1964, 1965 (AP), 1973 (Coaches), 1978 (AP), 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011
Irish (8) 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1966, 1973 (AP), 1977, 1988

GA (1) 1980……ha, ha, ha. Hershel was the man though.

Vulture

September 12th, 2012
11:57 am

“The ACC already has Duke, which competes in all sports but football. Why does it need Notre Dame?” When Franklin leaves, Vandy will again be a non-compete. I also want to know what bowl affiliation ND got.

James

September 12th, 2012
11:57 am

Maybe Penn State will come on boad also.
A weaken Penn State could rebound and compete in the ACC.

Reggie's Balls

September 12th, 2012
11:57 am

hotrod- “Come get some in Athens” ??

Get what? Some bail money, three hots and a cot, a breathalyzer test, a striped jumpsuit??
How many dogs are in the clink for this weeks game??

GTFan

September 12th, 2012
11:58 am

Ugh! No thank you, why?

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
11:58 am

I had high hopes for Vandy…then came the Northwestern game. I am a big SEC supporter (Go Dawgs), but I’m pretty sure Vandy would be in the lower half of their division as well. Vandy is at best the 10th best team in the SEC, at worst the 12th. I’d say 7th at best for the ACC.

Buzzzed

September 12th, 2012
11:59 am

Hope they are required to play a full slate of ACC games after the NBC contract is up. If not, this is a bad deal. Who’s next – Penn State or UConn?

Mike Bell 790

September 12th, 2012
12:01 pm

Damon Evans

September 12th, 2012
12:03 pm

A word or advise for all Tech Fans…”stay away from the white women if you want to keep your job.”

Jack in Macon

September 12th, 2012
12:04 pm

Who cares anyway?

Oh Please

September 12th, 2012
12:04 pm

Tech can’t stop RUDY…!!!!!!

JROLL1

September 12th, 2012
12:04 pm

NO IT ISN’T MARK! IF THEY’RE NOT BRINGING FOOTBALL….THEY AREN’T JOINING ANYTHING!

BobDawg

September 12th, 2012
12:07 pm

Yawn, Golic is crowing on the Mother Ship as his daughter gets to swim against ACC schools now. They get to get their cake and eat it too, basically staying an independent and playing whoever they want.

WhoCares?

September 12th, 2012
12:09 pm

Regrettable that the NCAA is making exceptions to allow ND to “partially” enter the ACC. It ought to be full-time or nothing. and it probably will be full-time in 3-4 years at most when that NBC contract runs out. In the meantime, it’s a boost for the ACC reputation, which can use it, without seriously altering the football power conference landscape. Eager to know who ND will ;play in football and will it be rotating teams to keep them way from a gimme package that includes only Duke, WF, etc….

Al

September 12th, 2012
12:10 pm

@Reggie

SEC = 6 straight NC’s…………………………..nuff said!

GT4Life

September 12th, 2012
12:10 pm

A lot of guys obviously forget that NDame was the Elite of the Elite. Around that same time they obviously do not remember just how bad the SEC was!! I remember the days of Ole Miss and Baylor( which at the time was weakest of the week ) coming to UGA and dominating. So be very careful what you say b/c it can all change in a couple of years. Look at Bama! Sucked for years before Saban!

Coming very soon to College Football is a new ruling on Acedemics. How is that going to effect the SEC? It will effect a lot of schools. Just saying!!

I love that ND has joined the ACC!! Great move for the Conference !! I also remember reading a lot of you saying that the ACC
is dead and would not be a Super Conference! So what now??

Good Luck to all!

jarvis

September 12th, 2012
12:12 pm

Academics…..only second to misspell in terms of wanting to spell correctly.

spider

September 12th, 2012
12:14 pm

im so sick of the rest of this country kissing NOTRE DAMES ass in football, this is not a good thing for ACC if they dont get the football program. why in the world the acc would agree to this is mind boggling.

Let's Laugh

September 12th, 2012
12:15 pm

hey GT4Life, ND, the elite of the elite, yeah when?

Notre Dame had 8 NC’s (AP, Coaches). 4 of those came in the 40’s….60-70 years ago.

Buzz

September 12th, 2012
12:15 pm

GT 4 Life, you are missing something very big here. In 2016 the NCAA is going to eliminate the academic exceptions. (For the record GT is allotted 4 for the entire roster, ugh is allowed 10 per recruiting class) The result of the elimination of the exceptions is the better schools will now sign the 3 and 4 star recruits and the rest of us will be suiting up 2 star recruits. It will simply be a elimination of most of the 4 and 5 star recruits from the pool.

cattledawg

September 12th, 2012
12:17 pm

This is the kiss of death for the acc just like it was to the big east many years ago. Cant believe the acc would be so desperate to bow down to notre dame like this. As a college football fan I would have loved to seen notre dame join as a full member.

Paddy

September 12th, 2012
12:17 pm

This is a big deal and will prove to be even a bigger deal as time moves on. Let it play out before you bash it. Nothing happens in a vacuum and this is a good case in point. It adds interest to a conf that really needs some good news!
Go Dawgs

Michael

September 12th, 2012
12:20 pm

ND needed an easier schedule to get into the “playoffs.”

Jacket Man

September 12th, 2012
12:20 pm

Anyone who was at historic Bobby Dodd Stadium on the day when highly ranked Notre Dame came to town and the Jackets beat them rushing the ball on every play, will probably look forward to having them come back to town, because the following year, when GA Tech went up to South Bend, when the Fighting Irish were up, I believe 62-7 with about 5 minutes left in the game, and the Jackets had all of their reserves in the game, they threw a pass for a touchdown rather than trying to run out some clock against us, just to rub our nose in it from the score from the previous season…at 69-7, GA Tech did score another TD, to make it 69-14 (I think), but they made their point.

The National Media had made fun of them the previous year because we beat them without gaining yards through the air; and they ran the score up on us so it would be plastered all over the sports boards the following year, in an effort to embarrass GA Tech.

There was a tremendous rivalry with Notre Dame more than once if I’m not mistaken, including wihen Bobby Dodd was our Head Coach, and then later when these “events” took place. Getting the Fight Irish back on the schedule should be a lot of fun for our fans.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
12:21 pm

This is a great move for the ACC. I can’t wait to watch the backlash though. If there is one thing people hate more than the ACC its Notre Dame.

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:23 pm

Thank you Mr. Slive for being the SEC Prez and making the SEC the envy of the NCAA food chain. Only someone like a struggling ACC would allow a new member to enter on THEIR terms with asterisk’s all over the deal.

Devil's Advocate

September 12th, 2012
12:24 pm

I used to think that Notre Dame should join the Big Ten and call it a day. Joining the ACC seems potentially the most damaging to them for football.

The Irish always seem to play Purdue, Michigan, and Michigan State from the Big Ten, then Stanford and USC from the PAC 12. They also always play Navy. The rest of their schedule is a nationwide tour of takers from the Big East, ACC, additional Pac 12, etc. I will give ND credit for having the most awesome schedule in college football considering how diverse it is with big name schools (only really missing the SEC as they have faced Big 12 schools like OU recently).

To give up that diversity for a potential ACC heavy conference schedule seems bad for the brand unless they are going all-in in hopes of it being an easier schedule than they typically face. That would translate to more wins and a quicker rise back to the top. That’s what makes this “5 game” deal strange to me. There doesn’t seem like much benefit versus going all in.

IL Jacket

September 12th, 2012
12:25 pm

Great news for the ACC and for ND as well. As I have said in the past, it really is the only choice for ND what with their emphasis on academics and the wide range of men’s and women’s sports they participate in. With five games a year in football, will provide enhanced interest in the ACC football programs. With the way the playoffs are going, probably only a matter of time before they become a full fledged football member.

Go Jackets!!!

lance manion

September 12th, 2012
12:25 pm

Great move for the ACC. Notre Dame will eventually move completely into the fold. ND is a great fit. ACC football as well as other sports just picked up a great new member. I know it kills the ACC haters, but too bad.

Dawg Bite

September 12th, 2012
12:26 pm

The big question would appear to be who are the 5 teams ND will play, and how are these games going to be treated? Will they count as conference games or not? Surely ND will not be able to “cherry pick” their opponents as they most likely would opt for the ones they think they could beat….did we hear Duke? Being an SEC fan in football, but an ACC fan in basketball, I cannot see how this benefits the ACC, unless ND becomes a full member down the road. They are a selfish bunch who” wants their cake and eat it too”!

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:27 pm

They way the Irish have played the last 10-15 years, they will fit right in.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
12:27 pm

Bob — You meant, If there is anything people laugh at more than the ACC, it’s ND.

lance manion

September 12th, 2012
12:27 pm

Paddy, great point. I agree

Biff

September 12th, 2012
12:28 pm

When is this going to happen? Next year? Years from now?

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
12:28 pm

Agreed spider. I would have been thrilled for the ACC if they got an all-in by Notre Dame. As things stand, they only just caused themselves a great deal of favortism not to mention a logistical nightmare on adding any more teams. As indicated earlier, you can’t have ND qualify for the ACC Championship game and you certainly can not credit a win or loss against them for your conference record…so, you would essentially need to bring in two more teams to have a “super” conference of 16 teams…with ND playing five conference games while everyone else plays nine or ten.

I’m certainly no insider, but I would put up my 100 to your 10 that ND would have gone to the B1G for the same deal. I just can’t believe the ACC would compromise on something like this. The ACC is certainly not a powerhouse, but they have done a lot to give themselves security the past 18-months. The ACC wasn’t going anywhere. This move was so far from necessary. If they had convinced ND to go all-in, the ACC could have potentially brought in another powerhouse, possibly from the Big 12, to give them 16 teams. Now their hands are tied.

Sorry if this is a repeat post…my posts seem to be getting stuck in blog purgatory.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
12:29 pm

I used to think that Notre Dame should join the Big Ten and call it a day. Joining the ACC seems potentially the most damaging to them for football.

The east coast dominates the footprint of Notre Dame’s alumni. They were probably never going to join the Big 10. The ACC made the most sense for them.

Devil's Advocate

September 12th, 2012
12:29 pm

Dawg Bite,

By definition those football games would not be conference games. ND football is not going to be part of the ACC, for now. They would just play 5 ACC teams. Lately they’ve been playing 2-3 ACC teams each year.

Born2Buzz

September 12th, 2012
12:29 pm

ND fits in the ACC. Student athletes not just athletes occasionally going to class. I suspect the deal evolves into full membership in football in the near future. Now the questions is who is the 16th team. I think a push to get Penn St out of the B10 may be in the works. PSU, the horrible Sandusky cloud notwithstanding, is a great institution that also fits with the ACC model. That is why UCONN (and WVU before they joined the B12) are not being considered. The ACC has the most members of the AAU of any conference. Academics is a big part of the ACC. And a lot of PSU folks wish they had joined the ACC before they went with the B10.

All you SEC homers don’t really understand what is happening here, so keep the silly comments coming.

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:31 pm

ND kinda of like the Varsity. I remember the good ole days when the fries were fresh cut and the pies had that Homemade real crust, unlike that cardboard crust now. Those were the days. This ND bunch, not so much now.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
12:31 pm

Yeah — their are loads of ND alumni strolling up & down Tobacco Rd.

The Hammer

September 12th, 2012
12:31 pm

The theory that the elimination of academic exceptions will simply move the more academically 3 and 4-star recruits into the “elite” programmes is absolutely unfounded.

If you are smart enough to be accepted to, say, Duke, you are smart enough to know that a career in the NFL is a) not likely, and b) dangerous to your long term health. On the other hand, selling insurance and fundraising, etc., can be very, very lucrative, especially in the long run, and especially considering your better health at the age of 50 versus even 5 years in the NFL.

With all that being said, if a university wants to continue to compete, they will need to improve the academics offered at their colleges, which is truly a win-win for everyone. Teams that are superbly coached and organised like Alabama will continue to win, due to not only their coaching, but also the good-enough academic reputation. Who will suffer the most are the most marginal of academic institutes, and they are generally not top-notch programmes today, anyway (mostly because of lack of booster funding – their alumni aren’t as rich, so they can’t give enough money).

As for Not our Shame half-way joining the ACC, I think it’s a good move, especially if GT can get a yearly game with them, like back in the “old days”.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
12:32 pm

The big question would appear to be who are the 5 teams ND will play, and how are these games going to be treated?

Reports are that ND has to play every team in the ACC every three years. Hopefully that is true. Also, there is no chance that ND games will count as conference games. That wouldn’t make any sense at all.

spider

September 12th, 2012
12:32 pm

i wonder how the people who say this is good for the acc will respond the 1st time their school football team loses out on a bowl game because notre dame gets invited over them? there isnt a bowl game that would not take notre dame over a a acc team, that is reality not my opinion and you know it.

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:33 pm

There is some big TV money lurking in the dark somewhere in this deal…….For the ACC benefit, not ND.

Devil's Advocate

September 12th, 2012
12:33 pm

GTBob,

The real question is what 5 games will ND give up? USC, Stanford, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, and Navy are staples of their schedule so would those remain plus the 5 ACC games and 1 additional team of choice? Possibly…

IronJacket

September 12th, 2012
12:35 pm

It is sad that when something positive happens to the ACC all the dwags start barking…. scared i presume.

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:35 pm

does this young Georgia Tech crowd know about pelting the Irish with fish when they take the field. Some traditions never die…LOL

Sundrop Kid

September 12th, 2012
12:36 pm

Major mistake by the ACC! There should be no preferential treatment for any college, and that’s what this is. It’s either in all the way or not at all. ND already is shown favoritism by the TV networks, especially NBC, and this only compounds it. Hope something happens in the very first year to create problems for the ACC, and they will see what a mistake they have made.

Born2Buzz

September 12th, 2012
12:36 pm

And ND already plays 4 (counting Pitt) ACC teams this year. Adding 1 more is not that big a change in their schedule. Going to 9 would be.

mreed14

September 12th, 2012
12:36 pm

Notre Dame plays 3 current and one future ACC team this year. It’s a joke to take them on if they are going to stay independent in football.

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
12:36 pm

Reports are that ND has to play every team in the ACC every three years. Hopefully that is true. Also, there is no chance that ND games will count as conference games. That wouldn’t make any sense at all.

Not sure how to italicize…but this is exactly the problem. You can count them as W’s or L’s…you can’t allow them into the Conference Championships, so you will still need 2 teams to expand to a super-conference of 16.

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:37 pm

Why are we scared. Maybe Tech will play them before us and have Tech bloodied and beat up for us maybe ?

Conference hater

September 12th, 2012
12:38 pm

Did you dimwits ever think that every shool has the right to NOT be in a conference? That joining a conference is more than just about football and basketball, there are actually academic implications that are involved?

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:39 pm

Do they sit on the back row during the league spring meetings?

David

September 12th, 2012
12:40 pm

Mediocre ACC, meet mediocre Notre Dame. Slow news day.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
12:40 pm

Not sure how to italicize…but this is exactly the problem.

What is the problem? Notre Dame in football is a non conference game for whoever plays them. It doesn’t really change much.

Time

September 12th, 2012
12:40 pm

No, GT Boob, it’s more like ND is actually more irrelevant than the ACC. It’s not about hate. Hard to hate things that mean zero. Just like Tech, the ACC and especially ND. Irrelevant has beens and never was’s the lot of you.

Tucker

September 12th, 2012
12:41 pm

Notre Dame continues the trend of “has been” programs joining the ACC. Congratulations to the Fighting Irish for finding a place to land. Congratulations to the ACC for sticking by its traditions.

buckheadboy

September 12th, 2012
12:42 pm

I’m happy to hear the news about Notre Dame and the ACC. The Yellow Jackets and the Fighting Irish both have rich, tradition-based programs of excellence in academics and athletics. My hope is that N.D. will join the ACC as a full-time member in all sports. Just to dream a bit (unrealistically, I suppose), but it would be wonderful if G.T. and N.D. could have a traditional opening matchup each season. Yes, it would be a tough game for both teams at the start of the season, but the anticipation would be delicious for a lot of college football fans nationwide. Or maybe we could drop that last game of the year with the Athens crowd, reschedule it between, say, South Carolina and Florida during the middle of the season, and end the year with a traditional rival more in tune with each other’s culture and image – N.D. versus G.T (”The Battle of the Gold”).

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
12:43 pm

GTBob,

The real question is what 5 games will ND give up?

It will be interesting to see how they approach that. I would guess that USC, Navy, and Michigan are locks. Probably Stanford as well. I have read in a few places that they will give more emphasis to maintaining a west coast presence.

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
12:45 pm

Scared? Hardly. I would like the ACC to become a better conference. I have a lot of friends that attended ACC schools…I’d say that is due to geography, but that isn’t quite the case anymoer with A&M/Missouri in the ACC and Pitt/Cuse/BC in the ACC.

I am actually really, really disappointed ND did not go all-in on this deal. I have been wanting them in the ACC for years now. They are a great fit academically, have a ton of tradition, are despised by many in college football (which is only good for money and ratings), etc. The ACC should want them in their conference, but not at the expense of favoritism.

Bama, USC, and Ohio State are all historic programs that equally share revenue. Then you have Texas and you have seen the fallout that caused in the Big 12. ND is not gawd’s gift, no pun intended.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
12:45 pm

One thing for GT fans to consider is the scheduling. We are going to a 9 game conference schedule, and we play UGA and we will be playing ND from time to time. Our schedule should be much more fan friendly after that.

caleb king

September 12th, 2012
12:46 pm

Hambersham Dawg, Go back to the production line at Fieldale!!!!!! You are funny!!!!!!!!!!!

southern bell

September 12th, 2012
12:46 pm

Time for GT fans to pull out the Rudy was offsides shirts.

Webster

September 12th, 2012
12:47 pm

This is absolutely wonderful news! Now, let’s go get some rings made!

WOW

September 12th, 2012
12:47 pm

AtlantaDude….you flea bag. I suppose Mizzou and A&M are in the South East too! They don’t exactly line up to the geographics of the SEC either!

donnie

September 12th, 2012
12:47 pm

Atlantadude – They’re on the midwestern coast, kind of like Missouri

afan

September 12th, 2012
12:48 pm

Leo will love this……..

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:49 pm

GTBob……….We both agree on that. I know PC and Western Carolina will be PO’ed. I wish the Dawgs would tone up their schedule but we’ll get ours in a couple of years when we rotate back to LSU,Bama, Arkansas on top of SC,Fla,AU and Tenn. Ouch.

Sonny Clusters

September 12th, 2012
12:51 pm

We was considering Notre Dame until we got Clemson stars in our eyes.

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
12:51 pm

Bob, the problem is it doesn’t accomplish anything. Granted, it is a non-conference game. But you still need two teams to get to a 16 team superconference. I’d be really surprised if this doesn’t happen soon for the ACC, PAC, SEC, and B1G. It isn’t as if you need the academic boost considering the presence of Syracuse, GT, Wake, Duke, UNC, etc. The ACC is already one of the two premier conferences in basketball (along with the Big East).

And it sets a bad precedent if any other school of significance wants to join the ACC…do they get to set the terms as well? I am not saying that ND = Texas. But I am saying they are similar in the fact that they do not play by the same rules as the rest of the conference. The Big East never got ND to commit to football either. ND gets the best of both worlds (conference affiliation for the lesser sports and Independent status for football). Even if there is a monetary gain for the ACC schools, I guarantee ND gets the most out of it.

te29wr

September 12th, 2012
12:53 pm

This is the easiest conf. ND could get in and try to win a NC ACC is a whore for being taken adv. of with out a full commitment.

afan

September 12th, 2012
12:53 pm

u right silly

Rudy

September 12th, 2012
12:54 pm

Tech is still a terrible football team!

kerryb

September 12th, 2012
12:58 pm

ND might have upgraded the ACC 30-40 years ago. Not now.

Boise Dawg

September 12th, 2012
12:59 pm

While I see the benefits to the ACC here… I think they sold themselves short. I would be much more impressed with Swofford if he had gotten ND to officially join in football. ND was desparate to get out of what is left of the Big East and for some reason does not want to join the B1G

What would force ND to ever join the ACC in football now? The ACC underplayed their hand for sure, they should have forced the issue and told Notre Dame it was all or nothing….. that would have forced a decision between the B1G and the ACC. It might have taken another year or two, but I suspect they might have gone all-in with the ACC.

Now ND has the best of both worlds. Plenty of teams to schedule with, access to the ACC bowl games and no revenue sharing.

kerryb

September 12th, 2012
1:00 pm

JB

September 12th, 2012
12:49 pm

GTBob……….We both agree on that. I know PC and Western Carolina will be PO’ed. I wish the Dawgs would tone up their schedule but we’ll get ours in a couple of years when we rotate back to LSU,Bama, Arkansas on top of SC,Fla,AU and Tenn. Ouch.

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Right now the Eastern side of the SEC is looking stronger than the Western side. In other words there is nothing wrong with UGA’s schedule. It’s still stronger than Tech’s.

Paul's got a small Johnson

September 12th, 2012
1:00 pm

Now look for FSU and Clemson to bail and head to the Big 12.

DunwoodyDawg

September 12th, 2012
1:01 pm

Seriously folks. Notre Dame is irrelevant. This just shows the desperation of the ACC and Notre Dame to matter in college football. Really, I don’t see the reason the Coaches Trophy isn’t just awarded at the end of the SEC CG.

hashbrown dwag

September 12th, 2012
1:01 pm

look for the acc to use notre dame’s addition to entice the final piece of the conference puzzle.

they will use it to get the best possible 16th member. when that happens look for notre dame to come on board as a full member of the confernence. fb included.

could pave the way for an expansion of tv in the acc to help create an acc network much like the sec and the bit ten have their own tv networks.

GT

September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm

Just picked up another major television market. The one advantage the ACC has, and in the long run it will pay off big dividends. You can sell the boonies so long before some of the city kids will want to play near their family and be in a larger audience of fans. The ACC gets lots of invitations now to events at the Georgia Dome solely because they have the local market, if they ever start playing good football the tide will turn even more in their favor. They can market this and a good education that more and more parents are looking for, for their kids.

Tyyyyyroooonnnneee Willingham

September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm

Speaking of jokes, I was one but I would never own up to it. See, it was the wind, the heat, the cold, and the fact that the other teams coaches were better.

cdpridg

September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm

something different to chuckle about today other than gt……Notre Dame…hahaha…ACC…Bwhahahaha!!!!

hashbrown dwag

September 12th, 2012
1:02 pm

would love for gt to become a permanent rivalry for the domers.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
1:05 pm

Seriously folks. Notre Dame is irrelevant.

Notre Dame is one of the top 5 names in all of collegiate sports and they have an enormous following. Im not sure how you could call them irrelevant unless all you really consider is their recent football record.

kerryb

September 12th, 2012
1:05 pm

If ND was to join the ACC in football FSU would probably leave for the Big 12. They probably will anyway of ND does not. They know they would have a very good chance at one of the 4 NC playoff spots with Texas and Oklahoma in that conference. In the ACC it would be hard for them to get consideration.

kerryb

September 12th, 2012
1:07 pm

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
1:05 pm

Seriously folks. Notre Dame is irrelevant.

Notre Dame is one of the top 5 names in all of collegiate sports and they have an enormous following. Im not sure how you could call them irrelevant unless all you really consider is their recent football record.

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Names? Yea, name but not performance the last 20 years. They’ve only been in the top 10 maybe one time to finish the season the last 20 years.

BigTimeTECHFan

September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm

Tech is Awesome!

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm

Names? Yea, name but not performance the last 20 years. They’ve only been in the top 10 maybe one time to finish the season the last 20 years.

That doesn’t really matter that much here. Do you think we should have added Boise St instead of Notre Dame because they have a better recent football record?

Tyyyyyroooonnnneee Willingham

September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm

Who remembers the Reggie Bush Push?

kerryb

September 12th, 2012
1:10 pm

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
1:08 pm

Names? Yea, name but not performance the last 20 years. They’ve only been in the top 10 maybe one time to finish the season the last 20 years.

That doesn’t really matter that much here. Do you think we should have added Boise St instead of Notre Dame because they have a better recent football record?

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If we’re talking football the answer is …yes. ND is no longer an impressive football program. It’s now like adding Illinois to your conference.

Let's Laugh

September 12th, 2012
1:10 pm

I do. Who remember’s Push, Push, In the Bush……great song……and porn video.

Ron Zook

September 12th, 2012
1:11 pm

I resemble that remark.

Vulture

September 12th, 2012
1:11 pm

“A Notre Dame source said the program “absolutely” would have access to the ACC bowls going forward. That probably includes a shot at the Orange Bowl, even though the ACC champion would be on the other side of that bracket.”There’s no other way to create the bowl position,” a source said. “Whatever games they [ACC] have access to, those are now our options.”
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/20163664/on-the-brink-of-irrelevance-notre-dame-hooks-up-with-acc

GTville

September 12th, 2012
1:13 pm

True the ACC is not the SEC. Half the SEC is not the SEC and neither are the P12, B10, or B12. The upper half of the SEC is simply fantastic and has proved it. Quit comparing to the upper half of the SEC as nobody at this time compares. Compare everyone else.

IronJacket

September 12th, 2012
1:13 pm

West Virginia to opt out of Big 12 now? And jump ship to ACC….

Ekim

September 12th, 2012
1:16 pm

I was excited until I saw that it didn’t include football. Now I don’t care.

dawgfan

September 12th, 2012
1:16 pm

“Notre Dame is one of the top 5 names in all of collegiate sports and they have an enormous following.”

LOL @ GTBob. Their NBC ratings have been in the absolute crapper the last few years. Enormous following my arse. You can BS with the best of them GTBob.

Vulture

September 12th, 2012
1:16 pm

“Meanwhile, the ACC will be able to reopen its contract and renegotiate what was termed a “sizable bump” in its deal. Notre Dame has been the biggest prize in conference realignment.”

Call It Like It Is

September 12th, 2012
1:18 pm

Well to add for TV audience good move, to show the ACC is serious about good football bad move. The Irish have a cult like following, who really dont care if the team is any good, to which it hasnt been since 1988. I do have to say it does boggle the mind how every single Sat if the Irish are playing their on TV. You have to give them credit for that at least. They are a subpar team at best, but their on TV.

Devil's Advocate

September 12th, 2012
1:18 pm

You guys need to really let go of debating wins on blogs. None of you have anything to do with your team’s wins and losses. This is all about money and that is a topic we all influence with our TV viewership and ticket/merchandise purchases. ND could go 0-12 and still draw more revenue than most teams.

Chris

September 12th, 2012
1:22 pm

Saying Notre Dame is irrelevant is totally ignorant. Yes, they’ve failed to win big in the last 20 years. I seem to recall that LSU failed to win big for a VERY long time before Saban. Now look at LSU. This is a great move for the ACC….it’s got ya talkin that’s for sure.

Let Laugh

September 12th, 2012
1:22 pm

The year: 1985
The event: When I gave up on Bo ever doing anything with Michigan.
The game: Michigan vs Illinois
The place: Champaign, IL
The outcome: MI 3, IL 3. MI final ranking #2…idiots.

What a joke Bo was. His Rose bowl record was atrocious.

John Swofford : The Latest Fuzz

September 12th, 2012
1:22 pm

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Vulture

September 12th, 2012
1:22 pm

It’s a cut-throat world out there but the ACC emerged with the biggest, best, shiniest gem. And if someday, decades from now, Notre Dame feels like it has to join a conference full time, well, it just announced its engagement on Wednesday. The wedding is pending.

The Irish already are kind-of pregnant.”

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
1:24 pm

LOL @ GTBob. Their NBC ratings have been in the absolute crapper the last few years. Enormous following my arse. You can BS with the best of them GTBob.

dawgfan, I know you live disagreeing with me but I think you are going to have a hard time convincing people that Notre Dame is a minor addition to the ACC with no fan following.

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dawgfan

September 12th, 2012
1:30 pm

“dawgfan, I know you live disagreeing with me but I think you are going to have a hard time convincing people that Notre Dame is a minor addition to the ACC with no fan following.”

I don’t think its going to make the splash that the ACC is hoping for. This blog is already indicative of that. Most view this as a desperate move by a desperate conference. For Notre Dame’s part, they’re looking for someone to mooch off of after NBC gives them the axe in a few years. They’re playing the ACC like a harp.

Thanks.

Speed Racer

September 12th, 2012
1:31 pm

The ACC should feel honored that ND will come down from the mountain of football gods to play the mere mortal teams five times a season….Also South Bend is not on the Atlantic Coast.

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
1:33 pm

ND has been atrocious the last decade plus, but no one can argue their relevancy in the fanbase. I’m a UGA grad, but can’t truly say that Missouri or A&M were powerhouse pickups football-wise, but they made a lot of sense financially for their fan bases and the often-coined footprint for additional regional coverage.

ND would be a huge coup for any conference IF they were all-in. I just get so aggravated with them. They are allowing their lesser sports to have conference affiliation while remaining an Independent for larger than life football. It is a sweetheart deal for ND, but a backhanded compliement to the ACC now. It is a shame really that the ACC couldn’t get the complete buy-in as it would have been a tremendous pick-up.

GTville

September 12th, 2012
1:39 pm

Curious how this impacts the Orange Bowl. Thought if ND did well they would play the ACC champ, but now I wonder if they will take the ACC’s place in the bowl.

Old Dawg

September 12th, 2012
1:41 pm

That sounds great for the ACC, but they better beware. While the ACC is very capable of competing with ND in all sports, they will never compete with their power. They have their network, and you will be sharing some of it. Texas has it’s network, and the rest of the Big 12 shared some of it. Remember how that turned out? When it comes down to who controls the network money, things can get very sticky. Be careful ACC.

Silly Bloggers

September 12th, 2012
1:42 pm

GTville, I don’t know the details, but I can’t imagine them being eligible for the ACC Championship game. For the next two-years, the ACC has to be placed in a BCS bowl so ND would likely only take the place of an ACC team in the Orange Bowl in the event FSU made it to the MNC game.

Coachurly

September 12th, 2012
1:43 pm

This would have been a big deal……..in ‘88.

Highly Respected Southern Troll

September 12th, 2012
1:43 pm

Who cares about Notre Dame joining the ACC if they’re not going to be a football member? Then again, if the ACC was truly interested in improving its football profile it would have added West Virginia (and maybe Navy) and NOT Syracuse and Pitt.

Ted

September 12th, 2012
1:51 pm

Certainly, any who watch the conference know the ACC has the worst football officials in the country, the least amount of accountability in that function, and the biggest goldbricker in the world overseeing them. Hopefully, teams playing ND will get neutral officials versus the ACC hacks.

Northern Neighbor

September 12th, 2012
1:51 pm

Indiana is on the Lake Michigan coast. Lake Michigan drains into the St. Lawrence River which flows into the Atlantic. So there is a nice connection. That also means Northwestern would be a good ACC pick-up. That puts a lot of schools into play – Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio St. Penn State.

gt and the acc will never

September 12th, 2012
1:52 pm

catch up to the sec as long as the sec continues to be unscupulous. for that matter all the other conferences will never catch up to the sec either.

and no it is not because the coaches in the sec are so much better. if saban was all that he would have succeeded in the nfl but he was just another average fb coach.
reason being…. he had to follow the same rules as everybody else.

funny how he became the next greatest thing to sliced bread once he went to alabama isnt it? take away the oversigning that the sec does and it falls right back into the pack with the rest of the conferences.

what i do find amazing and actually pretty silly is all the chest thumping that you sec types like to do proclaiming the sec as the best in the land.

that is just like a sprinter getting a 10 yard head start on the rest of the field and winning his race. lmao.

is he the best in the world? no.
is he the fastest man in the world? no.
does he have any real reason to brag? no.

what is really sad is not only does the sec have no real reason to brag but they even sacrifice academics to make this happen.

way to go sec. way to go. the sec is really a laughing stock.

come on

September 12th, 2012
1:53 pm

you dumb uga fans saying teams like fsu are going to leave the acc now must not read. the fee to get out is now 50 million. that will make it almost impossible to leave. i would also like to know why anyone is going to want to leave. acc now has 5 more national games a year and expanded the media market from Maine to Florida and into the Chicago market. hands down the best markets are now covered by the acc.

dawgballs00

September 12th, 2012
1:55 pm

Who cares? Notre Dame has been second rate for 20 years. I’m sure Pitt and Syracuse will be two of the five and that’s no big change. Probably a ploy by ND to soften the schedule a little more. Everybody knows that when ND has a rankable record they are overrated by five to ten spots. I guess people still tune in to laugh at the Irish getting destroyed every time they undeservingly make it into a big time bowl. Other than that, Yawn….

notre damer

September 12th, 2012
1:56 pm

notre dame>>>>>>>> missouri>>>>>> texas am

point acc

lmao.

missouri was so good that a short handed dog team went to their place and put a can of whoop- ass on em.

and here we have all these sec types trolling about notre dame.

UGADawg83

September 12th, 2012
1:58 pm

What does it say about a conference when one of the country’s most mediocre programs over the last 20 years considers it a step down to join that conference to play football? What does it say about the weakness of a conference if they will admit Notre Dame on those terms?

dawgfan

September 12th, 2012
1:59 pm

My vote for biggest crybaby sore loser Techie of the year goes to “gt and acc will never.” Would you like some cheese with your whine clown?

uga 83

September 12th, 2012
2:02 pm

last time i looked the dwags havent won anything of consequence since herschel was still only one personality. unless you count the fulmer cup.

lmao. how classy. >>>>>

Michael Adams, UGA President:
There was urination, there was defecation, there were 70 tons of trash. Buildings like the Law School or the library, we’ve had to close because when we left them open the destruction was too significant.

Augusta Chronicle – (UGA) has to close the library on game days because … “people were peeing in the stacks, vomiting in the stairwell and getting into fights in the lobby that the people who worked (there) got fed up with all the abuse.

next!

come on

September 12th, 2012
2:04 pm

for this doing nothing for the acc, espn has nothing but notre dame to the acc coverage on. i think the acc accomplished what it wanted. it does not matter what notre dame does in football they have one of the largest fan bases that are loyal. this will only make money for the acc by expanding the brand exposure and it gives notre dame what they wanted stability.

to dwagfan

September 12th, 2012
2:05 pm

a cheat is a cheat is a cheat is a cheat.

may be time to just kick the sec out of the ncaa and let them play each other. that way you can have an sec champion and beat your chest or whatever else you enjoy ‘beating’ to your hearts content.

just dont take a dump on OUR lawn on your way out!

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Reality

September 12th, 2012
2:06 pm

While I am happy for the ACC, I am also upset….

Why should the ACC accept ND without football? That really does not make sense to me. I would hope that there is some type of time-table in place regarding their football – either they fully join the ACC or they are out!!!

Tide Pride

September 12th, 2012
2:06 pm

WEAK WEAK WEAK!

This is schedule management to better have a BCS playoff appearance.

Follow me here:
Notre Dame will keep as permanent opponent:
2 from Pac 12: USC & Stanford
2 from B1G: Purdue – rotate Michigan State / Michigan
2 from Sevice Academies: Navy – rotate Army / AirForce
1 – breather team: (Western Michigan, Tulsa, FAU, Akron, etc)
5 from ACC:
– 2 permanents: Boston College & Pitt
– 3 rotation sets:
a. Miami/Syracuse/Maryland
b. Wake / VA/ VATech
c. Duke / NC / NC State

Note: GT/Clemson/ FSU have big time OOC games with instate rivals – they will not be in a rotation and will not play ND.

to dwagfan

September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm

i definitely hit a nerve with you didnt i? even if you dwags win something this year it will still be of no consequence. lmao.

RDW

September 12th, 2012
2:07 pm

I guess the ACC has become the Irish Conference. Nothing like admitting a member under their own terms. I don’t get it. What’s the point?

to tidefan

September 12th, 2012
2:08 pm

shouldnt you be pounding your chests instead of trolling? we be da best cheats. we be da best cheats.

roll cheating tide. roll.

Reality

September 12th, 2012
2:10 pm

@UGA fans here….

You struggled to beat Missouri – a team in that “nothing” conference you made fun of for so many years.

Why are you guys so arrogant? Try winning your conference before spouting your crap, okay?

Let's Go

September 12th, 2012
2:11 pm

dawgfan @ 1:30 pm
I don’t think its going to make the splash that the ACC is hoping for. This blog is already indicative of that.
Most view this as a desperate move by a desperate conference.

You really need to get out more if you think this unbias blog is indicative of anything relevant in the world of sports. A bunch of homers howling about UGA and the SEC is not very scientific.

If Notre Dame would have included football every conference, including the SEC, would have sold their mothers to get them so the fact that the ACC let’s them in now in huge. It may be 5 or 10 years down the road but ND will come all in. Year in and year out Notre Dame plays one of the toughest schedules in college football (8th this year) and have a national TV contract so they are still a big time program even if you can’t see it. One other thing, With Pitt and Syracuse and now Notre Dame joining the ACC they are hands down the number one basketball conference.

[...] Atlanta Journal Constitution [...]

RxDawg

September 12th, 2012
2:12 pm

Hmmm, interesting. If I’m a Notre Dame fan, I’m concerned about losing a lot of old rivalries. But I’m not a Notre Name fan, so whatever.

dawgballs00

September 12th, 2012
2:16 pm

@ RX What will they really lose? They already play BC, Pitt and Syracuse on a regular basis. They are really only agreeing to add two more ACC games than they already play. Just a polite jesture of thanks to the ACC for letting ND dump all its other sports on them.

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Rick James

September 12th, 2012
2:17 pm

The ACC is so desperate to compete with the SEC that they make Notre Dame an “honorary” member just because of the school’s undeniable brand.Then they increase the exit fee to 50 million dollars to force Florida State and Clemson to stay.All of this and they’re still just a notch above the Big East as a football conference.~Yawn~

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
2:18 pm

Kerryb — hold your horses on the SEC East being better than the West.
Bama & LSU still run the mighty SEC.

Bob — ratings??!! Did you say ratings??
Who the hell cares about watching a slow ND team play a no talent NC State or Wake Team?
Answer — no one! Not even you.
Fact is this deal helps ND & ND only!!
The ACC got screwed in this deal.
You’re a member of the conference 60% of the time?

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
2:20 pm

This is schedule management to better have a BCS playoff appearance.

You are really accusing Notre Dame of trying to play a lite schedule for playoff reasons? They are one of the few teams in college football who doesn’t play 2-3 cupcake games every year. They probably have the toughest schedule in the country this year.

come on

September 12th, 2012
2:20 pm

you can think of it this way the acc signed the top free agent on the market. big 10 has had the chance forever and were not able to make the right offer. the acc hit 14 last year and were not ready to hit 16. notre dame sees the writing on the wall. they know sooner or later they are going to have to join a conference for football. they don’t have to right now and the acc is not ready to add more teams into football it is the perfect match both said we are going to make it happen when the time comes. neither needed to make the move yet but put the process in motion.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
2:22 pm

Bob — ratings??!! Did you say ratings??
Who the hell cares about watching a slow ND team play a no talent NC State or Wake Team?

The millions of Notre Dame fans out there. Im not sure if you knew this or not but they are a pretty popular school.

shankit

September 12th, 2012
2:23 pm

I am a little confused.
Notre Dame to ACC except in football?
Not exactly, they are keeping their hockey in the Big East, as ACC only has
one member with hockey.
Keep their lucrative contract with NBC and does not have to share with ACC.
Agree to play 5 ACC teams. They are already playing 4 this year, Pittsburgh,
Miami, Syracuse and BC. Guess they will have to add Duke next year.
Will not participate in ACC playoff, but will eligible for Bowl eligibility under ACC.
Will not have to play Big East in basketball anymore, where they can’t compete.
If I were ACC, I would tell ND to stuff it.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
2:25 pm

The ACC is so desperate to compete with the SEC that they make Notre Dame an “honorary” member just because of the school’s undeniable brand.

This deal had nothing to do with the SEC. Quit thinking the world revolves around you.

dawgballs00

September 12th, 2012
2:26 pm

ND is already playing 4 ACC teams. So maybe they dump BYU for Duke next year and this is news?

Wet Willie...keep on smiling

September 12th, 2012
2:26 pm

Notre Dame=Big Hat and No Cattle

Stinger 2

September 12th, 2012
2:26 pm

Clusters: Now that you have revealed that you are a Clemson alum
or attended that school, we all understand why you use the ” we Clusters”
and other grammatical language in your posts. Its understandable. Go Braves, Chipper and Fredi!

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 12th, 2012
2:26 pm

THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD!

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
2:27 pm

ND plays the toughest this year, which is a far cry from their schedule during the Weiss years.
I’ll give Brian Kelly credit for their schedule this year.
Their still going to lose 4 or 5 games.
This Generation knows nothing of the great Knute Rockne or Paul Hornung winning the Heisman instead of Jim Brown — one of the great injustices of college football history!!
They only know ND as the Team USC practices against once a year!

Terrible Truth

September 12th, 2012
2:29 pm

Sounds like a desperate move by a desperate conference. If Swofford had any stones, he would have told the Drunken Irish “all or nothin’.” Do you see Mike Slive making that kind of deal? If ND receives one penny of revenue derived from football (besides actual gate receipts) then John Swofford and the conference he presides over are complete and total idiots.

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Habersham Dawg

September 12th, 2012
2:32 pm

Got to agree with GTBob here. Notre Dame is not irrelevant. They may be down in football right now, but with greater access to Georgia and Florida and their ability to recruit and show off the Notre Dame name and history, we could see a quick resurgence, and I’d hate to see that.

But having Notre Dame, even for 5 games a year, helps the ACC.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
2:33 pm

Millions of ND followers!!??
Are you kidding me?
Put the sauce down Bob, you’re embarrassing yourself!!
I can’t believe you’re gonna let Swofferd get away with this!!

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
2:35 pm

Slive would laugh at this “deal”.

Benjamin

September 12th, 2012
2:35 pm

Reality needs a heaping dose of his/her own screen name if they believe Georgia “struggled” to beat [a solid] Missouri team on the road.

Scoreboard says the Bulldogs won by three touchdowns, without four starters, including arguably their best two defensive players.

LawDawg

September 12th, 2012
2:35 pm

“Well, it’s official. The ACC is bigger than the SEC. (And a bowl full of rocks is bigger than a diamond…so what?)

OK, only by a margin of one. But you’d have to admit: In college football, Notre Dame is a pretty big one. (I believe you meant to say that Notre Dame USED to be a big one)”

LawDawg

September 12th, 2012
2:36 pm

Benjamin: I am a huge dawgs fan, but we objectively did struggle to beat Mizzou. If the fake punt had gone in their favor, they may have won. If Jarvis did not get that INT, that receiver was going to go a long, long way.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
2:37 pm

Note: GT/Clemson/ FSU have big time OOC games with instate rivals – they will not be in a rotation and will not play ND.

Just to add clarity this false statement also. When Notre Dame announced their move today they also said:

“that it will play five football games annually against the league’s programs, facing each ACC member at least once every three years.”

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gXAlMJ4ABBST5SWcgFWwll7vIvUw?docId=bd66b942fdbce7f6b2114bd2d8b32016

GT, Clemson, FSU, and every other ACC member will be playing Notre Dame.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
2:38 pm

If ga has 2 defensive players better than Jarvis Jones, their awfully good at hiding it!!

JoeFan

September 12th, 2012
2:39 pm

Expect Notre Dame to join the ACC in football after their existing contract with NBC expires. They can’t depend on being selected as a wildcard for the football playoff and need conference affiliation to give them a boost. This will also elevate the national perspetive of the ACC which could ultimately mean moving the ACC championship game to Atlanta which would mean moving the SEC championship to Birmingham or Dallas.

Benjamin

September 12th, 2012
2:39 pm

We can count the ifs all day long, but again, with the amount of defensive talent we had out of the game, going to Columbia, Mo in that amped environment and winning at all is a feat. I was legitimately concerned Georgia would lose Saturday.

Winning by three touchdowns? Let’s just say that I’ll take it…

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
2:41 pm

Millions of ND followers!!??
Are you kidding me?
Put the sauce down Bob, you’re embarrassing yourself!!

Im sorry, you are right. Notre Dame is a small school from Indiana with no fans and generates no interest in college football at all. Thank you for correcting me.

Ted

September 12th, 2012
2:43 pm

Maybe today it’s not better but we all know these conference runs go in waves. I think the acc will win a couple of nc over the next 5 years.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
2:44 pm

JesusHMotherofMary — why in the hell would Atlanta consider giving up the SECCG for the ACC title game which draws 20k only when Clemson plays?
Oh the humanity of some people!!

shankit

September 12th, 2012
2:45 pm

Hypothetical Thought?
Say Clemson and Florida State go undefeated in regular season.
Notre Dame whips up on Pittsburgh, Duke, BC, Syracuse, Miami and one other ACC powerhouse.
Say either Clemson or FSU loses in conference playoff, finish with one loss.
Notre Dame finsihes undefeated or with no or one loss.
Got two teams undefeated and one with one loss.
Would both undefeated ACC teams qualify for BCS championship?

Old Boy

September 12th, 2012
2:48 pm

Once they get to 16 teams, isn’t it basically two conferences with an extra bowl game (the conference championship amounting to a bowl game with traditional tie-ins)? Will teams in one division ever play teams in the other?

Webster

September 12th, 2012
2:49 pm

Well, this is seems like a nose snub. ND will join the conference, except for football. I know the reason is money, but it still seems snobbish. But, GTBob thinks it’s a good idea, and he knows everything, so I guess it will be good. Kinda like dating a girl thats going to sleep with others, lol

Rick James

September 12th, 2012
2:49 pm

@GTBob

This deal had nothing to do with the SEC. Quit thinking the world revolves around you
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The world does not revolve around the SEC but every conference in America would like to have its football revenue sharing.You now that so stop pretending.Do you really think that Texas A&M and Missouri were the only teams outside of the conference that knew each member school recieved checks for 19 million dollars last year? Notre Dame is in the ACC for one reason,to create larger revenue sharing checks so that schools wont be tempted to leave.If that wont happen the 50 million dollar exit fee will keep them in place.I guess if your wife doesnt love you either you pay her to stay or put handcuffs on her.

Mike S.

September 12th, 2012
2:50 pm

This is pretty laughable. ND will just camp out on the ACC like they did the Big East. Its essentially another basketball move, just like Syracuse and Pittsburgh. Big 12 must be grinning from ear to ear cause they know FSU and others will come calling soon.

2014 Big 12 after ACC football schools wise up and leave:

North: OU, OSU, K St, Kansas, Iowa St., WVU, Va Tech
South: Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, FSU, Clemson, Ga Tech

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
2:51 pm

Im sorry, you are right. Notre Dame is a small school from Indiana with no fans and generates no interest in college football at all. Thank you for correcting me.
—————
Bobby — wake up. We’re in the 21st Century.

robodawg

September 12th, 2012
2:51 pm

That’s pretty big for the ACC. But it’s probably not so good a move for Notre Dame. Wonder why they didn’t go the Big 10 route? In other sports now they’ll be flying to the Southeast all the time instead of the Midwest. And if they ever do go to a full conference football schedule, you’d have to be scratching your head why they’d let go of rivalry games with Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue.

Vulture

September 12th, 2012
2:52 pm

“In fact, the Week 6 contest between Notre Dame and Air Force drew the lowest viewer rating in Notre Dame history, with only 1.5 million viewers.”
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1089982-notre-dame-football-why-nbcs-contract-with-nd-is-detrimental-to-both-sides

Ken Stallings

September 12th, 2012
2:53 pm

NBC’s contract with Notre Dame runs out in 2015 and all indications are that it will not be renewed. The only reason Notre Dame is keeping its football independent is because right now Notre Dame alone gets the money for that NBC contract.

UConn is more likely going to be the 16th and final team added to the ACC. That will put 8 teams in a northern bracket and 8 teams in a southern bracket.

The truly interesting fact is that all four North Carolina based teams can be in the southern bracket. Here is how it would look:

Southern Bracket: Miami, FSU, Georgia Tech, Clemson, UNC, Duke, Wake Forest, NC State

Northern Bracket: Virginia, Virginia Tech, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Connecticut, Boston College

come on

September 12th, 2012
2:53 pm

from abc “Notre Dame’s move would allow the ACC to begin renegotiating its TV deal, though Notre Dame would keep its football revenue from its partnership with NBC and wouldn’t receive TV revenue for other ACC football games.” just to shut uga fans up that notre dame will be taking money away from the acc deal. this gives the acc a chance to add to the 3.6 billion dollar deal they already have. notre dame’s home games vs acc will be on nbc so they get that money. the road games would fall under the acc’s contract and the acc keeps that money. both sides profit from the deal.

jeff g

September 12th, 2012
2:53 pm

i bet if nd goes 5-0 in acc games, they will wish they were in the conference to play in a champ game and possibly a nc. when that happens, that’s when they will say ok, let’s join.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
2:56 pm

Bobby — wake up. We’re in the 21st Century.

Have a look at this link Big Crimson:
http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2011/college-football-11_land.html

It lists the most valuable teams in college football. Notre Dame comes in second only behind Texas. Not bad for a team with no fans. It might kill the ACC to have a team that unpopular right?

ND Fan

September 12th, 2012
2:57 pm

I’m an ND fan, I’ll admit I’m biased. However, college football is about money – it’s a business and ND generates money. It has die hard fans that will stick with them through thick and thin. Just look at the 40,000 fans that flocked to Dublin, Ireland for the game. That event gave the Irish economy a $100M kick. Not many schools can motivate fans like that – even when they aren’t a top contender. The ACC has a financial interest and ND brings that in. I’m glad that they may be closer and I won’t have to go all the way to South Bend to see them play.

jeff g

September 12th, 2012
2:57 pm

ken lol aside from va and md, all the teams are from the old big east.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
2:59 pm

The world does not revolve around the SEC but every conference in America would like to have its football revenue sharing.

You do know that the SEC is not the top conference in TV revenue don’t you?

cmac22

September 12th, 2012
3:01 pm

Will

September 12th, 2012
3:02 pm

I guess Notre Dame grew tired of playing their usual rigorous schedule.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
3:06 pm

It lists the most valuable teams in college football. Notre Dame comes in second only behind Texas. Not bad for a team with no fans. It might kill the ACC to have a team that unpopular right?
———-
Thanks for once again making my point.
It might be good for the ACC had ND actually embraced the Conference, instead of the typical ND smug — we will join but not our Football Team.
How does it help the ACC to have a quasi member?
Slive never would have fallen for this charade.

ylojkt

September 12th, 2012
3:07 pm

Just a note for all the UGA fans coming on here trashing Tech, Notre Dame, and the ACC. If it wasn’t for Tech tying then #1 Notre Dame 3 – 3 in 1980, you wouldn’t have had a chance at your beloved and long, long gone by Natl. Championship. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

For the rest of you being respectful, thank you for showing your other fans how a sports fan should act.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
3:11 pm

How does it help the ACC to have a quasi member?

It got the current members to raise the buyout to $50 million and solidifies the conference. It allows the ACC to renegotiate its TV deal with ESPN which is expected to increase revenue for all of the members. It adds high profile games to the ACC schedule. It adds a school that competes well in many sports and is solid academically. Doesn’t sound that bad to me.

they still play football??

September 12th, 2012
3:18 pm

I am soooo looking forward to the day the arrogance of Notre Dame bites them in their backside when they are left out of the playoff equation due to their independence. They aren’t relevant, haven’t been relevant in 2+ decades and their only chance of becoming relevant again is to get over their overblown ego’s and align with a conference. They don’t have the balls to join the SEC, never will.

Taxi Smith

September 12th, 2012
3:18 pm

Didn’t know the ACC played football. Learn something every day.

MR

September 12th, 2012
3:21 pm

Notre Dame football broadcasts is a great fast acting remedy for sleep deprivation.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
3:23 pm

I’m sold Bob!!
You win this round.
Just don’t come crying in 3 years when ND finds a better deal.
Slive would never have made this deal without a 100% commitment from ND football.

Btw, how’s that Julio trade working out for the Brownies?
You know the one you constantly chastised the Falcons for making!!
I’d certainly rather have a fat NT in Taylor, a non-explosive WR in Little & Brandon “4-int’s” Weeden!!
You’re we’re right about that Bob, the Falcons never should have made that trade.

Nativebird

September 12th, 2012
3:24 pm

This is why I hate Notre Dame. The most overrated football program in the last 30 years.

who's Notre Dame

September 12th, 2012
3:25 pm

Notre Dame…..they’re a joke….some idiot before said they were the elite of the elite. 25 years ago!!
ACC should be ashamed whoring themselves out like this. Either they come all in or they don’t come in at all. They proposed this to Slive, once he got through rolling around on the floor, would have dusted himself off and politely asked their cocky butts to get the hell out of the room.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
3:28 pm

Slive would never have made this deal without a 100% commitment from ND football.

Slive has more leverage then Swofford does and the overall goals of the SEC are not the same as the ACC. Not accepting Notre Dame without football wouldn’t even make sense for the SEC. It does make sense for the ACC.

You’re we’re right about that Bob, the Falcons never should have made that trade.

I have always said that Julio would be a great receiver but the trade was a horrible trade. I still stand by that.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
3:30 pm

Good move. Rotating out-of-division opponent for everybody. It means that the Coastal teams will play (fill in the blank – Wake Forest) less, and the Atlantic will play (fill in the blank – Duke) less. That’s a winning scenario, home and away.

Dale

September 12th, 2012
3:32 pm

Enter your comments here

Bobby

September 12th, 2012
3:33 pm

I did not know that South Bend, Indiana was on the Atlantic Coast? This makes no sense to me.

Jacket Man

September 12th, 2012
3:35 pm

Those who don’t think having Notre Dame coming to the ACC as a “full” member isn’t a great deal doesn’t understand the financial side of the equation…

There can now be another renegotiation with ESPN, etc over broadcasting rights now that Notre Dame will be joining the Conference, which will increase all of the member’s shares. Remember, they will be playing virtually every other sport that’s broadcasted, like men’s and women’s basketball, but also, there will be an opportunity to broadcast all of the Notre Dame/ACC games that aren’t played on their campus (not on NBC). This is a HUGE draw for ESPN and ABC, especially if they’re playing teams like FSU, Clemson, Miami, VA Tech, and even GA Tech with our offense and past history with them.

OldGold1964

September 12th, 2012
3:36 pm

Frank Lane said it: No big deal. As for my two cents woth – I just plain don’t like, don’t want it and given a chance, would have voted against it. They bring nothing to the conference other than an over inflated, and unjustified, ego. Send them back to the midwest and let them play Prairie View or Slippery Rock.

Vulture

September 12th, 2012
3:37 pm

“I did not know that South Bend, Indiana was on the Atlantic Coast? This makes no sense to me.”
Kinda like College Station, Texas being the southeast?

NoGaGator

September 12th, 2012
3:38 pm

Since ND has been better at Basketball than Football for the last 20 years, moving to the ACC is a good fit.

Their Football program has been irrevelant in the rankings the last 20 years but their fan base and NBC has continued to construe them to be better than they, in fact, are. Then again, they’ve at least won a National Title since UGA last did (1988).

NATS

September 12th, 2012
3:39 pm

Who cares? Just another set of arrogant fans like UGA. They both suck.

IL Jacket

September 12th, 2012
3:41 pm

GTBob, God bless you. You have more patience than I do bringing the truth to the box of rocks on this blog.

Junior Samples

September 12th, 2012
3:42 pm

looks like notre dame was calling the shots; the commish should have said all or nothing; none of this evereything but football bs

Johnny Robinson

September 12th, 2012
3:43 pm

There was a comment earlier frfom someone who said they were too young to remember when Notre Dame was good in football.

Years ago, during the days of unlimited scholarships for a school, there were 9 teams: Oklahoma,Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Southern California, Penn State,Texas, Alabama, and Notre Dame. These schools dominated football. They were known as the Gashouse 9. When these teams played it was must see TV. Oklahoma vs Nebraska, Oklahoma vs Texas, Michigan vs Notre Dame, Southern California vs Notre Dame, Notre Dame vs Mivhigan. Ahhhh, it gives me goosebumps thinking about thoses classic games these schools played. Will football ever get back to that quality. Doubtful.

My point is these schools have tradition. Expectations are for them to continue living up to those traditions. Mediocrity will never be accepted for these programs. There is a lesson to be learned here. Mediocrity should not be accepted in life.

Long live the Gashouse 9. Thanks for the memories.

Vulture

September 12th, 2012
3:43 pm

Anybody that does not understand why ND and the ACC both benefit, either don’t want to or can’t.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
3:45 pm

FYI, Notre Dame is not in South Bend. It is its own municipality. A lot more midwestern eyes on the ACC for ratings and recruiting.

Tide Pride

September 12th, 2012
3:48 pm

GTBob – you are correct – Notre Dame will play all ACC schools in a 3 year rotation. I stand corrected.

And GTBOB – regarding strength of schedule – Notre Dame has made a living on only playing a few powerhouses each year – and filling their schedule of midlevel teams so it appears they are accomplishing something.

Notre Dames main rivals over the years are Navy, So Cal, Purdue, Pitt, Mich. State, Army/Air Force rotate, Northwestern, – and have picked up Stanford and Boston College as regulars the last couple of decades. They do play Michigan on and off. Not exactly chopped liver – but not as tough as everyone gives them credit either.

Interestingly, Georgia Tech has played Notre Dame 34 times (5 less times than Michigan) and I welcome the renewal of these two great academic schools squaring off.

Not disputing Notre Dames rightful place in college football history – they are tradition rich but unfortunately have been in a lull for decades. They deserve respect for their academics and what they have accomplished.

I DO NOT not like the independent deal that favors them over other independents like BYU or Army and the automatic payout they get – even if they are not bowl eligible. That’s major Bull Shoot right there. Rules should apply to all in terms of bowl eligibility and qualifications to play in BCS or furture playoff system. ……. just saying.

Anyway – thank you for correcting my mistake.

dawgfan

September 12th, 2012
3:49 pm

“Anybody that does not understand why ND and the ACC both benefit, either don’t want to or can’t.”

Or maybe they just don’t give a flying crap. Put me in that camp. This is all much ado about absolutely nothing. Notre Dame will not help the ACC win BCS bowl games or (try and keep a straight face) national titles. It will not help Tech beat UGA. The ACC still has to produce on the field if it ever wants to get the respect it so desperately seeks. That’s the bottom line. This Notre Dame deal is just a marketing gimmick, a publicity stunt, something to get the talking heads talking about the ACC for once. That is all. It will quickly be forgotten as the SEC continues to dominate the BCS and Notre Dames loses to teams like South Florida.

Class dismissed.

Time

September 12th, 2012
3:52 pm

LOL, dawfan just took the nerds to school.

Rick James

September 12th, 2012
3:52 pm

@GTBob

You do know that the SEC is not the top conference in TV revenue don’t you?
———————————————————————————————————
I said nothing about television revenue.I said that each conference member got revenue share checks for 19 million dollars which is overall revenue.I hate it when you pretend to be stupid Bob.

Rick James

September 12th, 2012
3:57 pm

@IL Jacket

September 12th, 2012
3:41 pm

GTBob, God bless you. You have more patience than I do bringing the truth to the box of rocks on this blog
—————————————————————————————————————————
Why dont you educate the box of rocks and explain to us why we should stop laughing at this deal.

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
3:57 pm

Or maybe they just don’t give a flying crap.

I think that falls into the don’t want to understand category. Good job proving his point. Although i’m pretty sure you fall into the can’t understand category as well. You are one of the rare ones that can be both.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:01 pm

No Easy Schedule

Navy (Dublin)
Purdue
Mich. St. (away)
Michigan
Miami (Chicago)
Stanford
BYU
Oklahoma (away)
Boston College (away)
Wake Forest
USC (away)

Notice:
No FCS patsy
No Florida whoever-Lafitte FBS patsy

GTBob

September 12th, 2012
4:01 pm

I said nothing about television revenue.I said that each conference member got revenue share checks for 19 million dollars which is overall revenue.

Yes, and 17.1 million of that 19 million was TV revenue. Even if you want to use the amazing 19 million number, you are still behind other conferences.

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juice sourcer

September 12th, 2012
4:02 pm

Big Crimson 75 should be banned for making such a stupid comment.

Honeycomb Uniforms

September 12th, 2012
4:04 pm

Glad to see Bradley does NOT think the A She She has become a better conference than the SEC. Adding Notre Dame to the record of the A She She in the BCS bowl games would be a laugher. Well at least ND has won a bowl game lately (just broke a losing streak) so they are better off than the trade school.

sec chokes

September 12th, 2012
4:07 pm

notre dame>>>>>>>> missouri>>>>>> texas am

point acc

lmao.

missouri was so good that a short handed dog team went to their place and put a can of whoop- ass on em.

and here we have all these sec types trolling about notre dame.

the big bad sec is what the big ten used to be the big two and everybody else. michigan and osu = bama and lsu…. without all the cheating going on of course.

take the tide and lsu out of the sec and what have you got?

the best next 2 teams are the game crocks who finally won their first bowl game EVER

…and the dwags who win the fulmer cup most years and has a really really REALLY CLASSY fan base. their last glory days were 32 years ago. LETS NOT FORGET THAT THE DWAGS got hammered at their place by boise state a bunch of 3 star white boys and ucf. lmao,. UC fn F. lmao. roll dwags roll.

arkansas who just lost to la state at home. need i say more? u of fla who is a has been and auburn who has a losing record since cam left are part of tier 3…. i would put them on par with ncstate

than you have the rest of the sec … kentucky… vanderbuilt… mississippi… missiisspi state….texas mnm…ten or cee and missiouri who can give wake forrest a run for their money on most saturdays. lmao.

so out of 14 teams you have 7 that are on par with duke and wake forest and boston college. way to go sec. you be bad to da bone.

now that cam newton is gone awburn has a losing record and has lost twice to clumpsin and it should have been 3 times in a row.

Honeycomb Uniforms

September 12th, 2012
4:09 pm

Delbert:

The whole little 10 is a patsy….as well as those A She She powerhouses of BC, Weak Forest and The U (beatdown by Kansas State, Really??). They do get points for playing USC (which is overrated by the way).

ACC_meh

September 12th, 2012
4:10 pm

ND’s version of “just the tip”?

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:10 pm

Oh, yeah; forgot Pitt.

Box of Rocks

September 12th, 2012
4:12 pm

No, I do not understand how money comes into the conversation. I live in a trailer. The SEC is the best. We would never want Notre Dame in the SEC.

Honeycomb Uniforms

September 12th, 2012
4:12 pm

sec chokes not too up to date on the gamecocks…..they beat those might suckeyes before. not sure where this clown has been hiding……UF won 2 out of last 6 MNC’s so not sure what he thinks they are doing…..btw they also beat down the suckeyes…..sec chokes is just green with envy

killerj

September 12th, 2012
4:13 pm

What do you mean M>B>,in academics or sports who is better? please clarify?,let me help dumb @#$%^&.

ylojkt

September 12th, 2012
4:15 pm

dwagfan – I think you meant losing to Central Florida. Oh wait, you were talking about Notre Dame and not UGA.

LOL – O’leary owns you dwags!

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:15 pm

A Big Ten “Patsy” beat Georgia in OT last year. They apparently are playing without a quarterback this year, though based on what I say in their opening game. Every team needs a quarterback, I think.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
4:16 pm

Btw, Rick James & dawgfan — I assure you both & any other regular on these blogs, I do not in any way concede to bob this is a good deal!!
Sometimes, as y’all know, you have to throw a dog a bone!!
The ACC & Swofford in particular got played. Bob & the rest of their minions are celebrating a deal, that really isn’t a deal!!

We all know who ND is, excuse me WAS.
For Swofford to accept these terms is hilarious.
No one cares about ND football anymore.
Their dinosaurs.
Anyone remember how the NBC contract was going to make it un-fair for the rest of college football?
How’d that turn out for the Irish?
Simply put, ND has 3 years to test the strength of the ACC.
Once they see what everyone in the South already knows,
They’ll bounce outta Dixie quicker than Reconstruction!!

Old Dawg

September 12th, 2012
4:17 pm

From the perspective of television exposure, this is huge for the ACC. Yes, ND isn’t what it used to be. At the same time, you have to respect a media buy that goes into 40 million Roman Catholic homes.

I remember when Georgia played Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl after the 1980 season, I’d never seen my Catholic friends so conflicted. Priests were torn, nuns were crying and Sonny Seiler had to hide UGA from the IRA (kidding).

The NYC market is huge for ND. Expect to see season-opening contests between ACC schools and ND in the Big Apple on a regular basis. ACC hoops tournaments there as well.

Slick move to be sure!

Honeycomb Uniforms

September 12th, 2012
4:19 pm

Beating UGA does not make them more than a patsy….come on Delbert. The little 10 got beat down last week when they played out of conference……and Michigan was shown the door in a hurry against Bammer.

dawgfan

September 12th, 2012
4:21 pm

“I think that falls into the don’t want to understand category.”

Yes Bob, it most certainly does. What part of the word “irrelevant” do you not understand? I’m sure the digestive system of a donkey is completey fascinating to some, but I have no interest in understanding it because it is irrelevant to my life. Same goes with medicore ACC football. Its just irrelevant so I could care less. Adding Notre Dame doesn’t change that. You nerds are getting way too geeked up over this (pun very much intended). You criticize the SEC for being too hyped up but then get all excited when Notre Dame plays 5 ACC games a year like this somehow validates your pathetic little football league. It does not. Notre Dame can’t even beat South Florida.

Thanks.

James

September 12th, 2012
4:23 pm

What a prestigious move for the ACC, or BCS Ivy as they are calling themselves. There will be some very exciting games, with high TV pricetags. GT vs Notre Dame, FSU vs ND, Miami vs ND, Clemson vs Notre Dame, VT vs Notre Dame, etc..

You have to give it to the ACC, they are making big moves in expansion palooza.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:26 pm

@Big Crimson 75 – There is absolutely nothing for you to be concerned about. They aren’t and haven’t been playing SEC teams, so no reputations will be tarnished by a mere visit from The Golden Domers.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:29 pm

@Honeycomb – I agree. Georgia would make the BCS championship game for sure with ND’s schedule. Nobody on the order of a South Carolina on that list.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:30 pm

No Buffalo or Florida Atlantic, either. I guess Pitt and Navy would maybe be the equivalents?

Box of Rocks

September 12th, 2012
4:32 pm

dwagfan you sure know a lot about “irrelevant” “irrelevant to my life” stuff.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
4:33 pm

Bobby — how can you, a so called Tech supporter, stroke ND over & over then face yourself in the mirror?!
ND made Tech look like amateurs with the whole George O’Leary debacle, and you know this!!

The fact is several ND boosters, including Regis, got wet-feet over hiring O’Leary.
They forced that poor old man to take a fall to appease the liberal faction that wanted Ty Willingham.
Resume-Gate was an embarrassment to O’Leary as well as to Georgia’s Institute of Technology!!
Now you wanna kiss the behind of the school that purposely embarrassed a good Man.
That’s shameful Bob.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:33 pm

Not a decent substitute for Ga. Southern, though on the ND schedule that Georgia would play to get to the BCSCG. Although, Miami played a bit like an FCS team last week.

Honeycomb Uniforms

September 12th, 2012
4:36 pm

Easy now, Delbert. The Blue Hose of Presbyterian and MTSU Lightning are also not on the schedule but they might be equal to Purdue and BC.

i think i prefer to

September 12th, 2012
4:37 pm

see my team playing in a toned down honeycomb helmet that actually has a connection to your nicname

over the dwags playing and losing while dressed in ninja turtle power rangers uniforms.

than again we are talking about a fan base that is not welcomed to tail gate in st simons because of this …..

Michael Adams, UGA President:
There was urination, there was defecation, there were 70 tons of trash. Buildings like the Law School or the library, we’ve had to close because when we left them open the destruction was too significant.

Augusta Chronicle – (UGA) has to close the library on game days because … “people were peeing in the stacks, vomiting in the stairwell and getting into fights in the lobby that the people who worked (there) got fed up with all the abuse.”

SORRY DWAGS THERE NOTHING THAT YOU DWAGS CAN DO TO TRASH TALK YOUR WAY OUT OF THE EMBARRASSMENTS.ABOVE AND YOUR YEARLY CONTENTION FOR THE FULMER CUP.

NOTHING!

Honeycomb Uniforms

September 12th, 2012
4:38 pm

Good point on Miami, Delbert. However the Hawgs of Arkansas did not exactly look like a powerhouse in the SEC. If not qb for the pigs this weekend they will be beaten like a rented mule.

i think i prefer to

September 12th, 2012
4:38 pm

Michael Adams, UGA President:
There was urination, there was defecation, there were 70 tons of trash. Buildings like the Law School or the library, we’ve had to close because when we left them open the destruction was too significant.

Augusta Chronicle – (UGA) has to close the library on game days because … “people were peeing in the stacks, vomiting in the stairwell and getting into fights in the lobby that the people who worked (there) got fed up with all the abuse.”

Honeycomb Uniforms

September 12th, 2012
4:39 pm

should have been no qb vs. not qb….fingers got happy

St Simons..

September 12th, 2012
4:40 pm

asks the dwags to tailgate elsewhere.

how embarrassing.

i think i prefer to 2 (Starbury)

September 12th, 2012
4:41 pm

Students being robben in dorm rooms….cars routinely stolen from campus but APD will increase patrols in the ‘hood around the University of Georgia Tech

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:42 pm

Wait, the O’Leary debacle happened after he left. In that way, like the ongoing Donnan debacle which, is a bit embarrassing, to say the least. Who would hire a person with those moral standards? Yeah, “Innocent until proven blah-blah..” That thinking is for jurors. If the cops and prosecutors had to think that way, they couldn’t ever arrest anybody.

i think i prefer to 2 (Starbury)

September 12th, 2012
4:42 pm

pocket protectors littering the parking lot….slide rules left unattended in the men’s bathroom….falafel vendors in the stands receiving verbal abuse….

Box of Rocks

September 12th, 2012
4:43 pm

75 doesn’t ever let facts get in his way. A newspaper writing a feature article on O’Leary discovered the
inaccuracies after Notre Dame hired O’Leary.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/15/sports/notre-dame-coach-resigns-after-5-days-and-a-few-lies.html?pagewanted=all

Honeycomb Uniforms

September 12th, 2012
4:46 pm

We all have ‘ol crazy uncle Ronnie somewhere in our associations….so be careful when impugning others.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:46 pm

@Honeycomb – Pres-be-y-terian (as Jeff Foxworthy called them) achieved something this year that had never been done by them in their history. They scored on Georgia Tech, ending the two half-centuries drought.

ylojkt

September 12th, 2012
4:47 pm

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
4:48 pm

Delbert — negative.
O’Leary was hired by ND – fact.
Many in the media questioned the hiring – fact.
ND backed out of the hiring following pressure from alum – fact.
O’Leary took the fall -fact.
ND football would not have lost their place among the Nations elite had they not back-tracked on O’Leary – fact.

Box of Rocks

September 12th, 2012
4:49 pm

The Blue Hose play Vanderbilt Saturday.

ylojkt

September 12th, 2012
4:49 pm

hey i think...

September 12th, 2012
4:51 pm

you do know that your former star player with the gun was headed to the gt campus to do some mischief dont you?

most of the robberies on our campus are done by ugag athletes.

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:52 pm

“Michael Adams, UGA President:
There was urination, there was defecation, there were 70 tons of trash. Buildings like the Law School or the library, we’ve had to close because when we left them open the destruction was too significant.

“Augusta Chronicle – (UGA) has to close the library on game days because … “people were peeing in the stacks, vomiting in the stairwell and getting into fights in the lobby that the people who worked (there) got fed up with all the abuse.”

I really hated to cut and paste all of that, but the first order of business for an army in the field must be to dig a sufficient trench latrine. I think that probably applies to football fans and their ceremonies, as well.

hey i think...

September 12th, 2012
4:53 pm

like i said… you can trash talk an make up stuff all you want to but the facts remain….

1. the city of st simon asked the uga fan base to tailgate elswhere and ….

Michael Adams, UGA President:
There was urination, there was defecation, there were 70 tons of trash. Buildings like the Law School or the library, we’ve had to close because when we left them open the destruction was too significant.

Augusta Chronicle – (UGA) has to close the library on game days because … “people were peeing in the stacks, vomiting in the stairwell and getting into fights in the lobby that the people who worked (there) got fed up with all the abuse.”

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
4:54 pm

Big Crimson –
“Delbert — negative.
O’Leary was hired by ND – fact.”

That’s what I meant. The indecent exposure of resume occurred after he left the Institute. It’s not like the Institute let him back in.

hey i think...

September 12th, 2012
4:55 pm

no amount of uga trash talk can over come that a city asked your fans to not tailgate there and this…..

Michael Adams, UGA President:
There was urination, there was defecation, there were 70 tons of trash. Buildings like the Law School or the library, we’ve had to close because when we left them open the destruction was too significant.

Augusta Chronicle – (UGA) has to close the library on game days because … “people were peeing in the stacks, vomiting in the stairwell and getting into fights in the lobby that the people who worked (there) got fed up with all the abuse.”

this isnt trash talk as most trash talk is bs. the above are true facts.

how classless are the dwags.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
4:56 pm

Sec chokes or box of rocks(whomever you hide as) — no, the b1g never cheats.
Especially Ohio St or Michigan.
The recent scandal at Ohio St apparently didn’t happen.
I suppose Joe Ferguson only became a degenerate gambler after he left college.
Speaking of up-standing B1G QBs, how’s Rick Leach doing these days?
.

Box of Rocks

September 12th, 2012
5:04 pm

N̶D̶ ̶f̶o̶o̶t̶b̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶l̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶c̶e̶ ̶a̶m̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶N̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶e̶l̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶-̶t̶r̶a̶c̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶O̶�̶�̶�̶L̶e̶a̶r̶y̶ ̶�̶�̶�̶ ̶f̶a̶c̶t̶.̶
NON-FACT
Do you even know what a fact is?

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
5:05 pm

Delbert — I don’t think GT was at fault over resume-gate.
ND made GT & O’Leary look foolish as a result of it.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
5:07 pm

Box — I know enough about football to know George O’Leary is a better coach than Ty Willingham, Charlie Weiss or Brian Kelly.

Box of Rocks

September 12th, 2012
5:08 pm

The guy won. Do I care that he inflated his resume? I bet even 75 can figure that one out!

hey i think....(Starbury)

September 12th, 2012
5:11 pm

Why can’t we get nuff fans to watch our games and produce some trash? Four dogs, four cokes should make one big mess…..maybe all da fans be scared to come down to the ‘hood.

Tide Pride

September 12th, 2012
5:12 pm

Could be worse for all of you commenting today ………… you could be an Auburn fan!

hey i think....(Starbury)

September 12th, 2012
5:12 pm

look like i be banned

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
5:13 pm

Big Crimson – Their are a lot of strange stories out there. Google “Joe Don Looney” and “The Best Player who Never Lived.” I saw him play on the B&W TV those many decades ago. One of the strangest guys in history, never mind college football and the NFL. I recall the SI article on him years later, when he was cleaning elephant stalls in a Buddhist monastery.

Box of Rocks

September 12th, 2012
5:13 pm

Sorry HoneyPuss, it was not me.

hey i think....(Starbury)

September 12th, 2012
5:13 pm

must be comments about no fan coming to games cause we in the projects…..get four dogs and four cokes you come to game

Honeycomb Uniform

September 12th, 2012
5:15 pm

Delbert what are you talking about……you need some meds from super :)

Honeycomb Uniform

September 12th, 2012
5:16 pm

My mistake bag of puss…..overestimated your ability.

Box of Rocks

September 12th, 2012
5:18 pm

I’m a UGA graduate and I’m on the unemployment line with nottin betta to do…so I feel like I should comment on this bcause it relates to football and thats ALL we do at UGA…Go dawgs!!!

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
5:21 pm

Honeycomb – I’m in one of my rare moods today. A coupla times a year, my mind seems to expand and I can hardly tell what’s rolling around in there.

octavian

September 12th, 2012
5:27 pm

One desperate action by two desperate institutions.

Honeycomb Uniform

September 12th, 2012
5:33 pm

Good job, bag of puss….you continue to impress.

Big Crimson 75

September 12th, 2012
5:35 pm

Delbert — sounds like a character!!
Never heard of him before.
I’m glad you gave me the name.
I especially like the — “if you Want a messenger boy, call Western Union” comment!!

Honeycomb Uniform

September 12th, 2012
5:46 pm

We all deserve a break and letting our hair down and some point, Delbert. Enjoy your freedom and expansion.

WTFredi???

September 12th, 2012
5:48 pm

When Notre Dame decides to fully join a conference, it will not be the ACC, but the Big Ten. This is just leverage. The Big Ten makes more sense geographically, has as much football and basketball revenue generating power with less teams to share the spoils. They also will not want the influence of the basketball crazy schools on Tobacco Road impacting their football program. Look for ND to use this alliance to strengthen their basketball and baseball stature then jump ship to the Big Ten with Syracuse if and when the “Cuse gets their football back on track.

Honeycomb Uniform

September 12th, 2012
5:49 pm

Did not look at the link Box but it’s amazing what qualifies as “entertainment” these days. “No wonder Tigers eat their young” – Al Czervik

WTFredi???

September 12th, 2012
5:51 pm

I see the blog comments devolved into another trash talking session between UGA and Tech “fans”. Not really surprised. Get a life, idiots.

Honeycomb Uniform

September 12th, 2012
5:53 pm

liberal interpretation on Al’s line from Caddyshack………

Delbert D.

September 12th, 2012
5:56 pm

Football is my life. If not for football, I would not be a football (fan) today.

–Shamelessly misappropriated and modified to suit the situation. Copyright (Who was that guy??)

hey i think...

September 12th, 2012
6:42 pm

nope no ban here!

not sure how a person gets banned for telling the truth about the classless dwags.

hey WTFredi

September 12th, 2012
6:45 pm

I see the blog comments devolved into another trash talking session between UGA and Tech “fans”. Not really surprised. Get a life, idiots.

last time i looked we didnt invite the dwags onto this blog for any reason. if they wanted to come here and post trash that was there choice.

comprende?

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Dawg in Griffin

September 13th, 2012
2:17 pm

There is no way that ND can play the other 14 ACC schools at least once every 3 years that will allow those schools AND the Irish to maintain home and home scheduling balance. Someone didn’t think this through completely.

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September 16th, 2012
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