Already setting Georgia State records, Hunter dreams bigger

Ron Hunter reacts placidly to the defeat of William & Mary. (AJC photo by Hyosub Shin)

Ron Hunter reacts placidly to the defeat of William & Mary. (AJC photo by Hyosub Shin)

Nine months on the job, Ron Hunter has already done something only one other Georgia State basketball coach ever did: He has won eight consecutive games, matching the record established by Lefty Driesell’s Panthers on their run to Round 2 of the 2001 NCAA tournament. Here, however, comes a disclaimer:

Not one of the eight teams the Panthers have beaten holds a winning record, and if you’ve ever wondered how an  8-3 team can have an RPI of 287, here’s your answer. According to ESPN Insider’s numbers, Georgia State has played the worst schedule among the 345 Division I teams. And here, bang on cue, came Hunter’s rebuttal.

“First of all, I didn’t make the schedule, but I’d rather play the Sisters of Poor 27 times and be 27-0. It’s more about winning than RPI. If my mother brought her team down here, I’d want to beat her — and I love my mother.”

And here Hunter, who in addition to being smart and energetic and funny as all get-out is alarmingly media-savvy, nodded to his visitor and said: “If we’d been 5-5 with a good RPI, you wouldn’t be sitting here.”

Guilty as charged. As we know, Georgia State has a hard time getting noticed in the Atlanta market, but eight wins on the trot — the Panthers can establish a new school standard Thursday by beating Georgia Southern here — will catch the eye. Especially at a place that has known eight winning seasons in its 48 years of playing.

“I’ve never been in a place where expectations were so low and the passion and the spirit were so down. It took three months just to get my kids to smile.”

Some coaches might find that daunting. Hunter doesn’t do daunted. He has big plans for the program with the walk-up gym based on the Concrete Campus. How big? Here goes.

“We’re trying to become Atlanta’s team. I’m from Indianapolis [his previous stop was IUPUI] and I saw how Butler, a mid-major, dominated that city. I want us to be so you can’t get a ticket … I think we’re good enough to win our league [the estimable Colonial Athletic Association], but I don’t want to be just good. I want to be great.

“I’m not going to apologize for wanting to win. When I took this job, they didn’t give me a little  sign that said, ‘You can’t win this year’ … I want us to embrace this streak and this attention … My biggest problem is how to handle success, especially with a team that’s never won, and develop a swagger that isn’t cockiness.”

One way to impart the message might be to break a bone. Hunter did that, slamming a metal chair in disgust and fracturing his index finger. “I’m the only coach in the country who’d won six straight and broke his finger in practice.”

Backing up a bit: Does Hunter really believe his team can win a conference that has recently dispatched two members [George Mason and VCU] to the Final Four? “I do. Things have to go well, but that thing about conference play being different? The ball goes in the basket and they still give you two or three points. It’s still basketball. And nobody’s going to play harder than us.”

Georgia State being tabbed — not by the media but by the league coaches — to finish 11th in the 12-team CAA was mere grist for Hunter’s motivational mill. “We were picked last [or thereabouts] by the coaches, and we didn’t have a player on the all-conference team. That puts a chip on my shoulder. Before we played [CAA opponent] William & Mary, I told our kids, ‘Their coach said we were the worst team in the league.’ ”

Actually, there’s no evidence that Tony Shaver, who coaches the Tribe, said any such thing, but why stand in the way of a good goad? (For the record, GSU beat William & Mary 66-34.) Hunter is peddling hope at a program that has rarely known any, and he’s a good enough coach that we should take heed. “Self-imposed limitations are the worst,” he says. “You say you want to get a C, and you’ll get a C. Low expectations mean low results.”

Is Hunter happy to be 8-3? Nope. “I thought we’d be 10-1.” And is he worried that his team’s less-than-stellar schedule will catch up to it? “I hope Georgia State is on the bubble on Selection Sunday and people are saying, ‘They should have played a tougher schedule.’ I’d love that.”

If Georgia State is being discussed in any way on Selection Sunday, Ron Hunter will have lent RPI a new meaning — he’ll have become a Really Prophetic Individual.

By Mark Bradley

84 comments Add your comment

PT

December 22nd, 2011
12:07 pm

Take notes Curry!

Nom Nom Nom Chucks....Taylor or Norris

December 22nd, 2011
12:07 pm

Cool GSU has a basketball team….now maybe get a some sort of campus life that does not involved police reports and troglodites begging for money.

Nom Nom Nom Chucks....Taylor or Norris

December 22nd, 2011
12:08 pm

involve, my bad moderators.

tom wise

December 22nd, 2011
1:14 pm

no one gives a damn about ga.state,are you listening kennesaw state,with your new football program

CP

December 22nd, 2011
1:22 pm

The biggest traditional dreamers are located east of Atlanta.

G-STATE-55

December 22nd, 2011
2:11 pm

Tom Wise:

If you don’t give a damn, why in the crap are you wasting your valuable time posting on this blog?

Just a question? Would like to hear your answer.

Thanks.

S-T-A-T-E

December 22nd, 2011
2:46 pm

I can’t wait to see where this school and team are heading! Here’s to a new era for GSU! Time to give those Southern boys hell!

gcs

December 22nd, 2011
4:20 pm

Before you get too excited about this guy, know that if he has any REAL success that he will be out the door faster than you can say his name.

Georgia Souther Eagle

December 22nd, 2011
4:31 pm

I am a true GSU. I am proud of my GSU eagle.
I predict the real GSU will beat the fake GSU by atleast 30 points.

Georgia Souther Eagle

December 22nd, 2011
4:35 pm

Let win it Eagle. GSU Eagle is best at both football and basket ball!

English

December 22nd, 2011
4:38 pm

@ Georgia Souther Eagle – you’re a dork.

Sluggo

December 22nd, 2011
4:46 pm

@gcs

I’ve given that some thought and have concluded that if he has incredible success and leaves after 3 years then that’s much better than the alternative.

GSU > GSoU

Let’s maul some Eagles tonight!!!

GState

December 22nd, 2011
6:25 pm

Fake GSU (Eagle) will get clipped!

phil

December 22nd, 2011
7:06 pm

tjhook
December 22nd, 2011
1:25 am

If Mercer beats Ga. Tech, maybe my coach will get an interview. Sorry about earlier post-it’s late.

*******

Hoffman needs no interview. We’re fortunate and glad to have him in Macon.

English

December 22nd, 2011
7:53 pm

@ Mark Bradley – Did you make it to the game? I hope so. That’d be great as it’d be nice to have you check out the Panthers first hand. Merry Christmas.

GSU 36
Them 23

Halftime

Keep up the hard work Panthers!

English

December 22nd, 2011
8:50 pm

GSU 72
GSoU 52

It wasn’t even close. Great job Panthers. Love it!

Go State!

phil

December 22nd, 2011
9:14 pm

Mark…

Look into Mercer and it’s defense. You saw what they just did to Tech. They took Seton Hall to OT on Sunday in NJ….

Bob Hoffman has something in Macon this year.

GSUUSOCCER

December 22nd, 2011
9:14 pm

@Mark Bradley

Were you at the game tonight? I hope so b/c GSU breeezed past Southern with some really entertaining basketball, along with some great Ron Hunter entertainment.

randyinsavannah

December 22nd, 2011
10:03 pm

The Panthers mauled us tonight! The only thing we got in return is to bring up the overall record. Southern got rolled up!

phil

December 22nd, 2011
10:12 pm

CP
December 22nd, 2011
1:22 pm

The biggest traditional dreamers are located east of Atlanta.

******

Yes, but the true doofs, such as you, can apparently be found right there in good ole Fulton County!

randyinsavannah

December 22nd, 2011
10:16 pm

There is no question who the real GSU is. All we can do is act like a bunch of 10-year olds and scream about our overall record. We barely beat them in OT last year and 2 of the last 3 years have been 20-point blowouts!

randyinsavannah

December 22nd, 2011
10:20 pm

Maybe now we can stop obsessing over GSU and worry about our lackluster performances under CY. Oh and NDSU smoked us like cheap cigars! Humble pie is something else.

Biff Pocoroba

December 22nd, 2011
11:11 pm

If Tech was going to have to be cheap on their new hire, they should have hired the Mercer coach. The Tech players didn’t care tonight and no one hustled after any rebounds. It looked just as bad as the Hewitt days.

slimseville

December 23rd, 2011
2:55 am

Coach Hunter is the real deal. He has this team playing beyond their potential.

GT

December 23rd, 2011
10:38 am

Tech is opening the door for them with that loss last night. Davidson College beat Kansas, Presbyterian College beat Cincinnati, College of Charleston, Coastal Carolina there is an epithetic in basketball going on out there. I am thinking some of this AAU and basketball camps are burning these kids out. To Ga. State this is the big dance, but to Tech they hate having to play during the holidays and rather be somewhere else. Sports has come a long ways from the farm boys and the peach baskets. Boredom is chronic in big time college sports and the pros, it will eventually kill the sports for the discretionary fan, becoming more like elevator music, or Jai alai where the entertainment value is the betting more than the players or quality of play. All they need is for the arenas to start serving beer, and the customers to wonder in and out at lecture and you are there.

Paddy

December 23rd, 2011
11:04 am

GT Fan………GT has a basketball team? Who knew? I guess Mercer did! lol

GState

December 23rd, 2011
12:20 pm

Who’s the real GState. Panthers! Panthers! Panthers!

Go Panthers!!

December 24th, 2011
9:50 am

I have to admit that when it comes to basketball, I’m totally a bandwagon fan.

It’s not that I don’t love my school, it’s just that I don’t really care about basketball as a sport.

However, I haven’t been this excited about GSU basketball since Lefty had us shock Wisconsin in the NCAAs. That next day was the first day I became a financial donor to the University. Hopefully man other alumni will experience that same excitement under CRH.

James

December 25th, 2011
8:16 pm

Would love to see Georgia St move to Conference USA.

dawg fan man

December 25th, 2011
9:21 pm

How do we know which team is who? Both are GSU. I say Southern should be OFFICIALLY abbr. as GASO. and State should be officially abbr. as GAST.

itsmeagain

December 26th, 2011
2:26 am

Officially GSU belongs to Georgia State (look up their logo on ESPN.com and check out their website). Officially Georgia Southern goes by GS per their administration. They make a point NOT to go by GSU. Georgia State’s athletic logo’s contain GSU, Southerns contain GS. End of story

Caz - Class of '04

December 26th, 2011
11:39 am

Thanks for writing a piece about State Mark! Even though our schedule has not been the toughest, I’m extremely pleased with the way the team is playing this year. As someone mentioned already, if this were last year’s team, we’d be 6 – 6 at best at this point.

I’m really looking forward to them starting playing all of their conference rivals to see where we’ll really stand come end-of-March.

Go State!

GSU

December 27th, 2011
9:19 pm

Georgia Southern’s administration doesn’t promote GSU?

http://www.gsustore.com
Athletics phone line: 1-800-GSU-WINS

Nice one.

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