Yet another BCS whiff: Alabama’s brand burns the Cowboys

Playoff system!

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Nick Saban & Bama are evil

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Right on, Mark. What a joke of a system. TV set this game. Oklahoma State and the fans of college football got screwed.

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BCS is such a joke. .It needs to go. They change their rules year by year. 5 years ago during the 2006 season and the argument was Michigan didn’t win its division so they shouldn’t get the rematch vs Ohio St for the game. Michigans only loss was to #1 Ohio St. Same thing this year, but now with Alabama it all of the sudden matters that Alabamas only loss was to #1 LSU, BCS is so far up the SEC’s @$$ that it is not even funny,

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Thanks Espn for helping ruin college football !

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Respect, Saban.

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ROLL TIDE ROLL

THEY CALL ALABAMA THE CRIMSON TIDE……………………………….Isn’t that what STEELY DAN stated.

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Dead on, Mark. The undefeated Auburn brand in 2004 didn’t have the chance either when two teams were well qualified to play USC. One can only hope justice is served and the same result happens in the title* game.

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Thanks #BCS for freeing up 3 hours of my life.. I have already seen this game – LSU was the winner..

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Nobody watch the LSU vs Alabama game … And I meen NOBODY! Follow the money … what would happen??

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Roll Tide Roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It is a sad state of affairs when my favorit sport–college football–has such a broken and completely unfair mechanism for determining a champion. It hurts the sport, the athletes and the fans.

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What’s up with teams from Alabama trying to buy NC?
Auburn bought one last year big bad bama had to out do em and politic their way into this one!
I’m an SEC fan but this is a joke!

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Get over it! Roll Tide Roll!

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The TV ratings for this “game” will be dismal nationwide, although they’ll be great in Louisiana and Alabama, two HUGE TV markets. This may be the beginning of the end of the BCS, one can only hope that after this fiasco even the coaches, ADs, and University presidents will start lobbying for some sort of playoff system. Which brings up a great trivia question: What are the only three sports in the world that don’t have a playoff? Horse racing, boxing, and NCAA Division 1 College Football. Every other sport has a playoff, and every other football division has a playoff. How do you spell BCS? Bowl Champion$hip $erie$…and that’s all it is. They really don’t care a bout the fans.

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SoCal UgaDawg FAIL

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Dont watch … they will start caring!

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Espn guys said we need a plus one play off this year!
LSU already beat bama what more of a playoff do you need!

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01 Hawk the SD tune is called Deacon Blues lol…… Roll Tide and if you dont like the selection DO NOT WATCH THE GAME. Look at reruns of your pathetic Auburn, Fla and Ga teams.

MB you are right about the Alabama brand name…. why drive a Kia when the Porsche is ready to roll

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get over it! Roll Tide!

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The best two teams are playing. Bama might even be favored. LSU would be a 12 point favorite over OSU. That being said, we do need a playoff system.

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I will not watch the championship game, nor will I watch any espn show other than game footage. The ESPN talking heads and 90% of sports writer are to blame for this crap game. ESPN and the BCS is a plague on college football.

The NCAA is a joke too.

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Hey swhite1951, gotta update your playoff system trivia question. European soccer leagues don’t have a playoff. Europe is still in the world.

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Mark< do you think that either LSU or Bama would trade a backup offensive tackle to Georgia for Crowell?

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so incredibly biased, stupid article not even worth reading.

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*YAWN*, Mr. Bradley……

The Tide would have rolled Georgia and South Carolina. Excuse me, but YOU did see what LSU did to the “Dawgs” didn’t you?

Um, how about these two words…………….. Iowa State. Enough, and I mean enough said…….

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OK St had the chance to take the #2 position but failed miserably when they were beaten by a .500 Iowa St team. Well the Crimson Tide wasn’t beaten by a .500 team. They lost (barely) to the # 1 team. The BCS is supposed to pair the 2 best teams and they finally got it right. The ESPN talking heads were wrong in 2007 just as Bradley is today. In 2007 ESPN were just starting to grudgingly give the SEC the nod as the best conference. If they had got it right UGA wouldn’t have played against LSU. The SEC is just not a brand name. It’s the real deal.

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RTR22 ……………………………………I did not state anything about the name of the song. Look at the post. I just stated what is said in the song.

GET OVER IT ALREADY.

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Oklahoma State should be playing LSU not Bama, here we go again! By the way, UGA got their butts spanked!!! I speak for all at STINGTALK when I say “we should’ve beat the dawgs” and we have “one of the best coaches in the business with his own coaching style” so kiss that mutts!!!! Hope you enjoyed the spanking from LSU!!!!

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(BCS) who in the hell votes on this crap. I for one, will not watch none of the bowl games. I will boycott all colleges games and return to the NFL where if you win your in. Piss and shame on you asses. A BOISE STATE FAN AND YES MY TRUE NAME IS WALLY FROM IDAHO. Iam in the phone book also Wally Roath From Payette , IDAHO. GOT Screwed again BOISE STATE .

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Mark: Thanks for your thoughts– wish you had published them BEFORE the announcement. Why do you call Saban ‘Satanic”? The BCS is REQUIRED to put the two best teams against each other. If OSU played LSU tomorrow– what would be the line? When Alabama plays LSU on the 9th– what will be the line? Your answer to this question tells the tale.

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If OSU beats Iowa State, there is no controversy. At least in a battle of brands, T. Boone Pickens can’t buy enough commercials. That’s the thing about a famous brand…long after its advertisements, people will still buy it. There is no chance we will get a playoff in the next ten years, but if LSU wins again, and they should on a neutral field in Louisiana, this will all be moot.

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The BS Championship!!! Alabama deserves nothing! I hope LSU “ROLLS” all over them, and to HADES with ESPN for their DOUBLE STANDARDS!

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bcs and espn r in bed together all a bunch of crap sec is so good thats all i hear about sorry but its just like the heisman its all bought off by the sec schools too tebow is not a heisman winner in my book just like reggie bush a bum bought and paid for by espn and a bunch of politicans

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Mark
How can herbie and the boys say we need a plus one?
LSU beat bama! Is that not the same as a plus one?
What a joke!

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this matchup is a fing travisty… play off system anyone?

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Bradley, you really showed your ignorance when you stated that Alabama didn’t even play the best two teams from the east. Did you not see how the best team from the east got massacred last night? Keep crying, UGA would have placed a distant fourth place in the west and won’t compete any time soon.

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Bottom line, the 2 BEST teams in the Nation are playing for the title. The fact that Bradley has to resort to name calling to try to make his point is pathetic. ROLL TIDE ROLL!

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Oh My, sounds like some one is jealous of the SEC teams! Well, what are you going to be saying if AL beats LSU and does win the National Championship? Since they were barley beaten by the No. 1 team in overtime I think the No. 2 ranking is fair and entitles them to play the No.1 team again. Now if Oklahoma State was undefeated I could understand the complaints. AL is a better team than LSU and a way better team than Oklahoma State….sometimes the truth hurts. So, Mr. Bradley, I am sorry if your favorite team was not chosen as number 2 but if you HAD the fan base and stronger “brand” as it was called…..not to mention “the better team” you team would be No. 2 and going to the National Championship game. So please, stop ranting and raving about your feelings being hurt!!!!

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If LSU wins they are national champions all by themselves. If Alabama wins it will not the national champion. It will either be be a co-national championship with LSU unless Okie State beats Stanford, then it will be a 3-way national championship with LSU and Alabama. What a joke.

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Mark,

They invented these machines that can record programs. So someone can actually record a football game and watch it at a later time.

Try Best Buy or Costco, I am sure they can explain it to you.

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BAMA GONNNN GET THEEEIR BUTTTS HANDED TO EM LSU GONNN TAKE CARE OF BIDNESS AGAAAAIN!!!!

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Not so fast my friends! I think the BCS got it right. I’m an SEC East guy but I think LSU and Alabama are the two best teams in college football. Bama didn’t win their division because they lost in OT to the best team in college football. Sure, I can feel for OK St., but until we get a playoff this is the best we can come up with. I’m not getting worked up about it.

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I enjoy your blog too mark!!! I speak for all us stingtalkers when I say LSU is the best, and Oklahoma State should be in the BCS game with them. FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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And no matter what the outcome, there will be yet another crystal football presented to an SEC team not named “Georgia.” Crystal footballs all around you: Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, Auburn and yet not a one in Athens.

The two best teams in the nation are going to play for the national championship. Period. End of discussion. The BCS did its job.

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Mark, right on!!! Kirk Herbstreit is a legend in his OWN mind! I still remember his VD (verbal diarrhea) from 2007. I will not watch ESPN commentary for the remainder of this season–if ever–and I may not watch a repeat of a championship that LSU has already won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Roll Tide! here comes number 14!

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OKSU had the every open door needed to play in the BCSCG. However, with that opportunity being right in front of them, they took a loss to a Iowa St( which in SEC terms is a Vanderbilt equivalent).

The system is not fair as it currently sits, however the best two teams in the country are playing on January 9th and there is no other way to look at.

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Your jealousy is showing pretty badly, Mark.

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The BCS system is simply ridiculous. OK State should be playing LSU for the NC. What happens if Alabams wins 9-6 against LSU on January 9th…………would we have a split National Championship??

We should all keep calling for an 8 team playoff system! 8 vs. 1, 7 vs. 2, 6 vs. 3 and 5 vs. 4. Use four of the BCS games for the first round. The four winners play two weeks later and then the two remaining teams play two weeks later (the weekend prior to the Superbowl). All existing bowl games remain in place and NCAA Football fans get three additional HIGH PROFILE/MUST SEE games! It is a absolute no brainer!

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I would prefer to see LSU vs. OKie State. Not because I think Alabama is a lesser team than Okie State, but because LSU has already passed that test at Tuscaloosa! And Bama failed it. No, I would rather LSU put an a$$ whipping on Okie State to show the naysayers just how superior they really are!

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Mark,
What do you think of Virginia Tech being in the Sugar Bowl?

P.S. Couldn’t agree more about Bama in the NC game. Great blog!

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Does anyone, emotions and past BCS decisions aside, seriously think Oklahoma State is the second best team in the nation? LSU blew the doors off everyone they played, with one exception. They beat Alabama by a field goal in overtime.

The two best teams, in 2011, will play for the national championship. If LSU played Oklahoma State, it would be a repeat of LSU/Georgia, except worse.

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BAMA had an AURA long before SABAN came to BAMA.

Winningest program in the SEC

6TH winningest program in college football

JEALOUS
JEALOUS
JEALOUS
JEALOUS

GET OVER IT

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Absolutely fantastic Mark! Lost in all this is how not fair (the ongoing theme of college football) this is for LSU. Why on Earth should they have to beat the same team twice? I also wonder what the national title game would be if Oklahoma and OSU were to somehow switch their bodies of work. Maybe Alabama and the SEC still wins out but Oklahoma and Stoops does have a brand as well. So much for the notion that the BCS makes the regular season a playoff.

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I guess it is fitting since BAMA and LSU started the SEC.

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lol…The SEC bought and paid for this……OKSt got robbed !! half of America will check out and not watch. I wont…

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been tired of ESPN for a while…hoping NBC Sports taking over Versus will mount some kind of challenge to those rectums in Bristol, Connecticut…the way they shove that stupid NBA crap down our throat is sickening enough…too many smug yankees there for me to watch…

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Daddo knows. Listen to Daddo.

Just the most fair and objective facts.

You Fifth Place Georgians go off to your nobody cares bowl.

Alabama playing for yet another national title.

Georgia doesn’t have a defensive player who could start at Bama.

Bama has best defense in college history.

Bama will win number 14.

Not a single running back at Georgia would PLAY at Bama.

Georgia recruiting in the tank ranked 30th by Scout.

Georgia about to extend contracts for horrible coaches…..hahahahahaha.

Georgia so bad you guys shouldn’t even have an opinion on this topic.

Your fans, like your team, doesn’t matter.

Listen to Daddo. Daddo knows football.

Just the most fair and objective facts.

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Anyone who is being unbiased knows in their heart LSU would beat OKST by 42-13 or something like that. Do we really want another SEC vs whoever blowout in the NC?

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Bama didn’t even win their division much less their conference. Bear Bryant would turn down the offer to play for the title because he would say you have to win your conference.
The BCS is officially dead to me now.

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LSU vs OSU is not about anti Alabama.

It’s about what has been a precedent over the last several years.
It’s about what has been said by the pundit’s for similar situations.
It’s about what kind of message it sends to all the schools like OSU.

The NCAA changes the rules whenever they see fit so they can make as much money as possible… smaller schools or programs be damned. And there is nothing anyone can do about it. They’ve been doing for years in the bowl game selections… they’ve just transferred it to the BCS Championship selection.

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16-team play-off, just like 1-AA. It’s the only way, so get ‘er done!

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It’s messed up. Them Okie state boys will have to go undefeated next time. Why so many losers this year?

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Every game counts – what a joke!

LSU 9 Bama 6

At Home no less.

That should be the end of it. Rematches are for losers. Conference losers. Game losers. Bama losers. ESPN should be ashamed. Alabama fans are too far up Saban’s rear to be ashamed.

The BCS is a BEAUTY contest. Nothing else.

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The BCS did exactly what it was suppossed to do matching #1 LSU and #2 Alabama. I have no problem with this. There is not going to be a playoff in the foreseeable future. Maybe you would like to go back to the old system where just conference tie-ins go to certain bowls. #1 and #2 would seldom meet. It’s still a little like that with West Virginia getting an invite to a BCS bowl and a team like Boise state ranked high and going to the MAACO bowl, not a Boise fan and would like to see them get B-Slapped but fair is fair.

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We have a Conference System as our primary framework for determining who plays who for MOST of the season. Non-Conference games are arranged 6 to 8 years in advance and are based on nothing more than inside relationships and TV ratings. There are +’s and -’s to it of course, but this is the underlying framework by which we determine who is ranked and, hence, who plays who in the post-season.

Beat everyone necessary to win YOUR Conference, and this should be the PRIMARY determinant for who plays in the NACG … PERIOD!!! Nick “2-faced” Saban said it himself.

PROPOSAL: every team in every conference plays their required number of in-conference games (typically 8 or 9 games). Play them all during the first 8 or 9 weeks of the season. Then, based upon the same ranking system we already have, start matching up the ranked teams to play each other for the last 3 or 4 weeks of regular season. Let this continue on into quarter-final, semi-final and final match-ups in the post-season in the form of bowl games that (again) we already have.

At the end what you have is 2 teams playing each other for a National Championship who have PROVEN their worth by WINNING ON THE FIELD!!!

If it still turns out that there are 2 SEC teams playing in the NACG, then so be it … but at least everyone would know those 2 teams got there by BEATING everyone else who has a legitimate shot ON THE FIELD (not in some abstract polling booth).

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We do have a choice, boycott the bcs/Espn. I for one will until a playoff is in place.

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The only game that counts now is the BCS title game. The AP pollsters removed themselves from the Big Picture. If the AP wants to call a different champion than the winner of the BCS title game then they have the right to do so. The winner is the winner in the BCS eyes.

Body of work, is more of the criterior than each loss or each win. I think we have all seen how poor a whole a BIG 12( is it Big 10 or Big it is now. The schools of Oklahoma, Texas and OKSU( or soon to be name Boone Pickens University) all decided they wanted less competition across the board. The blame should be placed straight on the shoulders of those few men who wanted to control the conference without Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M and Missouri.

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Hey Daddo -

I don’t like Georgia either. BUT YOU LOST. On the field. Fair and Square. Every Game Counts – right? Except the ones the Tide doesn’t win. Then they don’t count anymore.

Give me a break. Put on your bikini for the Swimsuit competition. Sing a pretty song for the audience. The BCS is nothing but a glorified beauty contest. If it was about football, Bama would be in the Sugar Bowl – cause they already LOST.

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I own Nick Saban

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Won’t be watching the game. Already saw it a couple of weeks ago. Why not let the winner of this game play the winner of the Super Bowl for the World Football Championship. They are semi pro anyway. Might tune out until there is a playoff system. BCS bowls is a joke. One or two fewer games during the season, then a playoff. Won’t happen though. No one wants to give up there home game with a FCS team and the money it generates.

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If Alabama smells like #2, what does “we own this state” but got out backsides handed to us by LSU smell like?

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SEC Fact Finder-

Your argument is false. The “body of work” of which you speak favors OSU not Alabama. You might want to do a little research before you type.
(unless you want to show your ignorance? in that case, job well done!)

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Oklahoma State lost to a 6-6 and unranked Iowa State. Alabama lost to #1 LSU…in overtime. Easy decision and the BCS got it right.

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If they were not going to give Ok State the shot, they should have given the trophy to LSU last night. They shouldn’t have to beat Bama twice to win the title. There’s no doubt in my mind that the team I saw last night in the second half can’t beat anybody including Bama a second time.

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Was it bad for Bama to have to play Florida again in 1999 in Atlanta after having beaten them in the Swamp during the regular season? No, because the rules say that the East champ plays the West champ irrespective of whether they played in the regular season.

The rules for the BCS say that #1 plays #2. Simple. Many different sources put Bama at #2.

You’re protesting against life itself. Please stop whining.

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Someone needs to dismiss little Herbie. He is the worse thing out there for college football. He gets on his little stump at this time every year trying to pick who HE wants to see.

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Blah, blah, blah. I don’t have a dog in the fight but I will watch because I want to see good football. For all the years we have seen lopsided meeting in the NC I am looking forward to a grudge match. In the end I don’t really care that LSU met up with AL earlier. This is about good football, plain and simple; not any of these other ridiculous arguments.

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Just like the SEC title game, perhaps we can go ahead and declare that LSU is the national champion no matter what happens in the championship game.

Even if they lose, they are 1-1 against Holy Bama, have a dramatically better out of conference record, and clearly deserve it.

Wonder what the Bammers would think about their Beauty Contest then?

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@bamaguy – talk all you want – Bama would get destroyed by OSU. The Bama secondary would get lit up like the Macy’s Christmas tree. Sure, Bama might score 40 but they would give up at least 50 (Georgia Southern scored 21 and they are a borderline GHSA team).

Bama has the Media in their pockets and some reason, Sabin can do/say whatever he wants. That’s why Bama is playing in the “National Championship”

All this year’s BCS says is that a playoff is needed more than ever

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CRIE BABIES !!!!!!

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Bama has a great Defense, but Mark is right… their schedule was very easy – not as easy as UGA’s was this year, but it was very easy.

They did not play any high powered offense except LSU and Arkansas and they were 1-1 there….

Here is the offensive rank of each one of Bama’s opponents….

114
110
77
15
72
61
116
106
12
73
82

Anybody could have a great D going against those anemic offenses…

Yes Bama should have beat LSU, but Oregon should have as well if folks would have watched that game.

Ok State plays against much higher powered offenses than those in the SEC and that is why their defensive numbers are not the same, but their offense is lights out!

Greedy BCS system is Bad for College football. I turned off the first Bama / LSU bore fest and won’t watch this one at all.

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This is fun, but I need to find a hotel reservation for New Orleans. I have already gotten an email from the Alabama Athletic Office asking if I wanted to buy tickets. I guess they were ready and made advance arrangements.

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What are Bamers going to whine about when they get beaten a second time. Getting beat twice will be more embarrassing that losing 42-10.

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Well said, Mark! LSU/Bama for the MNC is a joke. Okie State was absolutely robbed, but their band isn’t as popular, and they are, after all, from Oklahoma and not Tuscaloosa. What a friggin’ joke.

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One team lost to the best team in the country….one team lost to Iowa State…..
One team lost to the best team in the country….one team lost to Iowa State…..
One team lost to the best team in the country….one team lost to Iowa State…..
One team lost to the best team in the country….one team lost to Iowa State…..
hmmmmmm….this is so hard. lemme think some more….hmmmmm

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This game is officially a JOKE.

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Boohooo

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Man, Saban makes it so easy to root against the Tide. Go Mad Hatter!!!

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Hey Bamaguy –

It’s “we run this state”. If you want to slander Georgia at least get it straight.

And this has nothing to do with Georgia. Nothing. This has to do with the hypocrisy of the BCS. We know how Bama fared against LSU. All these blowhards claim to know how Oklahoma State would fare against LSU. Problem is they haven’t (and won’t) met on the field. Every game is important.

Except the one’s Saban loses. Those don’t count.

It’s just a beauty contest. Enjoy the Mrs. BCS Pageant in New Orleans.

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One team lost to LSU.

One team never got to play them.

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Bama already had their shot against LSU and lost. They had two weeks to prepare for a game at home and lost. They do not deserve another chance against LSU, nor does Oregon, Arkansas or any of the other ranked teams that have succumbed to LSU. OSU deserved their opportunity to slay the dragon, but alas, ESPN controlled its own destiny on this one. It was more than coincidence that Nicky was on the set for the SEC championship game, a game that his team did not qualify for.

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The reason why Alabama didn’t have to win their conference or division is b/c they played LSU closer than any team in the land and lost what should have been an easy win with several missed kicks. UGA gave LSU no competition which made the rest of the SEC look like a moot point. To that regard, the game was over in first few minutes of the second half when Georgia gave up 42 unanswered points. OSU doesn’t pass the sniff test b/c their defense sucks and their special teams are nothing compared to LSU and Alabama. Alabama also has the best college player in the country who perhaps could be the very best college football player to ever play the game. If you study the manchild that No. 3 is for Alabama, you would quickly learn there has never been another RB like him in the history of the game. I can’t even name a single player on the OSU team. The LSU / Alabama game was hailed as the game of the year by a landslide. You should be happy that your Bulldogs had such a nice year although their defense was never a true No. 4 in the nation. The best offense you played all year was Boise who beat you and Vanderbuilt who you barely beat…(Vanderbuilt?) Come on man…..

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anybody who dont think lsu and bama are the best 2 teams in the country has no business watching football anyway

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UGA gave them no competition? I bet BAma doesn’t hold them to no first downs in the first half. They didnt do it the first time. At least we scored 10 points against them.

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same way Florida won their 96 title. Rematch BS.

Then Urban cried and got his free title (against the Big 10) lobbying against the rematch scenario.

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FOLLOW THE MONEY TO THE CORRUPTION,,,,,,,,,,,,ESPN; BCS; NCAA; SENATE AND THE BCS LOBBIESTS. NUFF SAID

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One things for sure. You will NEVER see Tech lift that crystal football as the undisputed champs

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Mark, excellent commentary btw, kudos.

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You do wonder why they need to play this game. Either way, LSU is the NC. Even if they lose, they will have the exact same record as Bama, and since LSU beat Bama on the road, they win the tie breaker. The Hat does it again!

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STATE of ALABAMA……………………………………..We run the BCS……………………..3 YEARS ina row a team from the state will play in the game.

UGA………………………………………..Where are you ? ……………………31 years and counting.

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So your saying Alabama isn’t the 2nd best team in the country? Who is?? Alabama lost to #1 LSU in overtime by 3, Ok State lost to unranked Iowa state in OT, who trumps who? BCS game is exactly who it should be, the 1st and second best teams in the country.

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Mark, you’re dead on. The unbiased computers chose Okie State and tradition (biased people) chose Bammer. What happens if Bammer beats LSU 9-6 or something similar? Nothing will be decided. Okie State should be in this game. Bammer had their chance at home and lost. Just don’t expect people who wear toilet paper and a Tide box on their head to comprehend your logic.

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Yea, that’s a great accomplishment. Alabama teams play in the biggest farce of a championship game in the history of college football.

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WELL,WELL,WELL…………..WHAT HAVE WE HERE? A PATHETIC ARTICLE MARK FOR SURE!!! TO NAME CALL A COACH & TO PLAY IT UP TO THE STATE SCHOOL TO SELL PAPERS IS PI$$ POOR AT BEST,& YOU SIR ARE A SHAMEFUL”HUCKLEBERRY”!!! WHO ARE YOU OR ANYONE TO SAY WHOM SHOULD OR SHOULDN’T PLAY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!! DID YOU HAVE A VOTE??! YOU CERTAINLY HAVE & AGENDA THAT IS LACKING IN FACTS & TRUTH!!! WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS,HOWEVER,THE SYSTEM AT HAND HAS A FORMULA THAT WAS USED & (LIKE IT OR NOT) PUT THE BEST TWO TEAM IN,PERIOD!!!

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T. Boone Pickens probably spit Metamucil all over his TV……..he’s gonna put a hit out on somebody!

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Mark, Mark, Mark,

I am the first to want a playoff but the bottomline for this season is LSU and Bama are the two best teams in the country and you know it.

LSU is a great team. Bama GAVE them a win with 4 (or was it 5) missed field goals!

Come on man – your hatred of Bama is showing a bit here isn’t it?

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@kerryB – You should re-read your post and pour out the sour beer you’re still pissing in. You guys got lucky in the first half, were overmatched and out of shape to handle the best team in the nation during the second half. Who cares about no first downs in the first half? The game is 60 minutes long and UGA stopped playing in the second half. I don’t think UGA made a first down in the second half.

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I guess I should have said they only dropped one place after they lost to LSU. No other team would have done that. They got the Saban ranking and that’s it.

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Or if you flip ok state with oklahoma, they would have given oklahoma the chance. total bs.

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THEY’VE ADDED ‘BODYOF WORK’ TO THE FORMULA AND REPLACED ‘MARGIN OF VICTORY’ WITH ‘STYLE POINTS’…………THE BCS DIDN’T DO THIS……….ESPN DID, TOMANIPULATE VOTERS.

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Come on Mark so you are saying that a team that was ranked #2 that lost to a very bad Iowa St team deserves to stay ranked #2. When you lose to a team that bad you should drop well outside the top ten. UGA lost to two top top 12 teams and then won ten in a row and could get no closer than 14th so why should OK S.T even be close enough to the top of the rankings to even be considered.

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downfall of bcs has started; sec just wants the money

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Stop crying about the SEC, Saban, and Alabama. Everyone except for the SEC and ACC got what they WISHED FOR. Rewind the clock to 4/30/2008 and the article, “BCS officials reject playoff proposal”.

During five hours of meetings, Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive (to be read as SEC for the slow readers) presented a plan for a plus-one format, matching the No. 1 team in the nation against No. 4, and No. 2 vs. No. 3 in the marquee bowl games. The winners would meet about a week later in the BCS title game. The plan also called for creating a sixth BCS game.

In the end, only the SEC and ACC wanted to even continue the discussion of the plus-one.

There was no vote taken, the commissioners said, but the leaders of the Big East, Big 12, Pac-10 and Big Ten made it clear they didn’t want to move the BCS toward a playoff in any way.

I would guess that the BIG-12 Commissioner now regrets the decision not to go to a plus-one system. The SEC and ACC are ready!!

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BAMAGUY–Go to Alabama, or go to he–! Not much difference as far as I am concerned!!!!

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I love the college game.
But the lack of a TRUE playoff system is disgusting.
With each year of polling determining competition, I am losing interest.
For anyone to claim this system works…you are butt sniffing kool-aide drinkers.

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I think the only reason Ok State lost to Iowa State was because they were distracted after the plane crash the day before and all that was going around them. I think that offense would give LSU defense more trouble than Alabama’s one dimensional offense will. I predict LSU will beat them 21-10 this time.

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If Bama beats LSU will the Tigers get another chance. Make it a best two out of three. Most tie breakers are head to head competition. LSU beat Bama and shouldn’t have to do it again. This has proved that the BCS isn’t the answer. How about VA. Tech going to the Sugar Bowl after getting embarrassed last night?

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Great piece Mark, Oaklahoma State should be outraged as should all of college football. I do not want to see a rematch. I don’t know if we will ever see fairness. Too much money and political power involved with college football, high profile schools, bowl games, and ESPN influence. It’s not just with the championship game, lesser bowls pick there teams based on how many fans will travel. I want to see a playoff as do most college fans.

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Hey Bradley why won’t you take my comments? I have tried twice.

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So if a nfl team loses to a team in the reg season and plays them again in the sb and wins, they aren’t nfl champions? Nice logic.

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GTBob, for once I agree with you.

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Any playoff system which utilizes the current polls to determine rank is doom to the same failure as what we have now.

The only true playoff system is to match up conference champions. Lower tier conferences could be selected for a couple of at-large berths. But the major conferences can name a champion and those champions can be seeded by a selection committee.

Competition should determine champions……not morons with agendas.

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This season, I will NOT watch the BCS Championship game. It is nothing but a joke. BCS rules should say that a school can NOT play a school for the second time in a season. What if bama beats LSU By a field goal…what then. The championship game should be between LSU and Oklahoma State. PERIOD! In my mind, if LSU wins, they are national champs. If BAMA wins, then Oklahoma state Must be declared National Champions IF they win their bowl game. GET RID OF THE STUPID BCS AND GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS. Let the fans vote as well to determine the national champ.

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Lsu will be even better next year.

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All okie st had to do to play in the title game was beat a lousy isu team. All Boise had to do was kick a field goal.these other one loss teams have only themselves to blame.

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Hey Realist, gotta update you on current events: http://www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/organisation/president/news/newsid=1726353.html

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December 4th, 2011
10:07 pm

So if a nfl team loses to a team in the reg season and plays them again in the sb and wins, they aren’t nfl champions? Nice logic.

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The BCS has proven that if you lose late in the season it is almost impossible to recover. OkSt lost after Bama lost so they blew their chance. It also didnt help that it was Iowa St. If they’d have lost to Oklahoma that day instead, then they might be playing LSU

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Every Game Counts, even the Iowa State game.

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Oh, and Realist, you might want to check out this site as well: http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/index.html

I realize, by the way, the Europe is a part of the world. And it doesn’t really matter whether European soccer has a playoff or not, the BCS should give way to a playoff.

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Haa haa haa like anyone gives a dizzzam if you leg humpers watch? No one watched the SEC Championship game either… zzzzz fest.

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This the official chardonnay blog.

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answer is obviously playoffs but qw are stuck with choosing the best 2 to play and any OBJECTIVE football fan can see that Bama is clearly one of the best two teams. just look, actually look at them play

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IF this is a 11-0 florida and a 10-1 Georgia and Georgia did’nt make the championship game then, noway this happens…I remember Auburn had 3 nfl players, went undefeated and did’nt get in a few years back.

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Hey, Buckshot, I’ll take that bet. I can guarantee you that if it Stanford was undefeated, Oregon was ranked second, and Alabama was third and the BCS gave the rematch to Stanford/Oregon your comments would be entirely different from what they are now.

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GTBob,

OSU had its chance but lost it by losing to a 6-6 team.

BAMA had its chance but lost it by losting a #1 team.

But now you are saying OSU got it back? how?

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At what point in 2007 was UGA ranked #2 in any pole? Again, stop it with the revisionist history.

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Michigan and Ohio State got screwed in 2006 then. Nobody besides Alabama and maybe LSU wants to see thse two play again. What a black eye and dark day for college football. May as well go back to the way it was or play 10 regular season games and have a playoff. Disgraceful, sickening, pathetic….even rigged comes to mind.

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Tide fans are delusional.
I know because I live in Alabama.

If we had a playoff system, the Tide could play in a bowl, but would be ineligible for the playoff.
LSU is the only team from the SEC who actually EARNED that right.

Alabama was voted in my judges.
It is a beauty contest.

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Two best teams are playing..so cry no more!

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I think everyone here agrees there needs to be a playoff. But trying to make this into an Alabama conspiracy is silly.

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kerryb,

Do you think UGA should have played LSU back in 2007?

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Not interested in the repeat.

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Hey swhite1951, those aren’t TEAMS, those are COUNTRIES… like the Olympics. I can assure you the English Premier League, La Liga, etc, don’t have playoffs. Bonus points on your google ability though… and you should watch Euro 2012. It will be great fun…

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ESPN blows

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GTBob,

I am a Tech fan. Tech didn’t get to play LSU, how do I know Tech cannot beat LSU? should I blame BCS and ESPN too?

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51ML, In 2007 all of the top teams has 2 losses but all the media types like now was saying UGA and USC were playing better than anyone at the end of the year. Saturday night before the selections Herbsteit, May, and Holtz began stumping their,”UGA didn’t win it’s division or conference so they can’t play in that game, no one that does not win their conference should play in the game” line. The next day the BCS jumped LSU from 5th to 2 over us. That’s why Dawg fans are completely pissed about all this.

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Sure Okie State that lost to Iowa State should go to the Championship game. Really, think Bama would of lost to them. Okie State would score 36 against Bama or LSU, would of taken them 10 games to do it Marky Poo

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Come on Mark – none of us like the BCS but there’s little doubt who the two best team in the country are and Okie State’s not one of them. Losing to a punk team killed their chances..

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Seriously…If Alabama had one loss to a 6-6 Vanderbilt, they would not have been considered for the BCS title game….So why should OK State be considered when they lost to a 6-6 ISU team?

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Alphare, if Tech only had one loss, had more wins against winning teams then Bama, and has beaten more top 10 teams then Bama, then you would have a very good argument.

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ga fans should love repeats. every year is a repeat for yall. lose 4 or 5 games to ranked teams and then wait for outback bowl

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Wasn’t 2007 four years ago?

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wow- Bradley proves once again that he knows less about college football than………well, just about anyone on the planet. Hey Mark (aka- tool) how about THIS fact……………anyone with a pair of eyes and the brains of a 10 year old KNOWS that the two BEST teams in the land are LSU and Bama. FACT you foolish moron. The BCS was designed to do ONE thing; bring #1 to play #2. It has. Ok State? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?????????? They would get boat raced by either LSU or Bama…………they play in an inferior conference. DEAL WITH IT PINHEAD. Of course, you follow UGA and that clown Mark “thugs r u” Richt that you wouldnt know a great team when you saw it. Shut your stupid inbred pie hole and accept reality; the two best teams in America ARE LSU and Bama…………and they will play in the game DESIGNED TO MATCH 31 AGAINST #2. DONT LIKE IT? COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER. Til then, Bama nation doesnt give a rat’s ass if any of you dawg poop fans watch the game or not. You clowns got humiliated by LSU. You would get a foot up your sorry ass had you played Bama. YOU played a cupcake schedule this year, and even more embarrassing next year. See if you can focus on winning BIG games against GREAT temas. When has Richt last done that??????????????????? (The man is a glorified recruiter– he is NOT an elite head coach) Bradley, you are a lousy and pathetic judge of college football talent. AND a long time Bama hater. Its gotta hurt, dont it? UGA won its NC WHEN? Bet they didnt play Bama that year either. Bama penis envy is a terrible thing buddy.

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I don’t get it with fans who argue against a playoff.

Of course, Alabama fans really want the current system THIS YEAR because their team gets in.

If we have a playoff, no way Alabama gets in if the 2 at large selections were conference champions of lower tier conferences.

Alabama lost in fair competition to LSU and should not be playing for the mythical NC.
If the berths for a championship were decided on the field of play rather than in cyberspace…the Tide would be out of it.

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From what I read here, Bama’s loss to LSU was a “quality loss.” “Our loss was better than their loss.” Hmm. I wonder what Bear would have thought of that concept. He probably would have noted there are only Ws and Ls, not QLs.

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@kerryb that is a good point and that was discussed at length with an NCAA official not long ago on one of the networks. Guess what there is nothing in the NCAA rule book saying you have to win your conference to go to the national Title Game.

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The BCS just made an enemy of T Boone Pickens. Bad for them, good for fans.

Vote with your dollar. I am done with college football until they get a playoff.

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As far as I know by rule the winner of any football game is the team that scores the most points, regardless of how they were scored. The BCS, and the polling system before it, doesn’t recognize that simple fact. Those systems are based on the “look” of one football team against another, for example Alabama and Oklahoma State. The ONLY fair way to decide a national champion is a play-off system that rewards the conference champions, decided by regular season victories, with the opportunity to play other conference champions in a single-elimination bracket that ultimately brings two teams together to play for the national championship. This eliminates all of the “talking heads,” opinions, strength of conferences, strength of schedules, and just about anything else you can think of. It ain’t rocket science and it can be done. Only big money prevents it from happening.

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I meant “strong points.”

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GTBob, Bama and Ok State each beat one top 10 team (Arkansas for Bama, Kansas State for OSU). Bama beat 3 teams in final BCS top 25, Okie State beat 4. Fact is, resumes were close, final numbers were close, but Bama is in championship game largely because they lost to a better team, and their best win was to a higher ranked team.

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I am buying the fist round in NOLA. Roll Tide!

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Now that’s funny, a ranting Bama person calling someone inbred. That’s like the pot calling the kettle black. When are these stupid Bama fans going to realize that if it wasn’t for the great state of GEORGIA they would not have enough players to beat Ole Miss. There sure isn’t enough players in that in bred state to field decent team.

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Because OK State won their conference and Bama didn’t. You bammers are more retarded than you look. Has this turned into best out of 3 now? Idiotic system and fans supporting it.

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The BCS does not determine a national champion. College football is about college football fans getting to go to fun places for bowl games. This year, what is labeled the BCS championship bowl game is just the SEC championship rematch. I won’t be watching it, I did that the first time around.

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What if this was Notre Dame with one loss??? They have never been conference champs or won any divisions. Lou Holtz would have stood up on his desk to get them in the game. Tell them to join a league!!!!!!!!

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BOY YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!! I have watched college football for years, about 32, but I AM TIRED OF THE CROOKED CRAP THEY CALL A FAIR SYSTEM!! A team like Bama, gets in on the NCG on SOMETHING THAT LEFT GA OUT OF IT ON! College football has to be breaking FAIR ACTS LAWS. IF I WAS RICHT AND GA, I WOULD SUE THE SYSTEM THAT CHEATED ME IN 2007 ! They all will DIE AND GO TO H**LL!!

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tmc

December 4th, 2011
9:33 pm
SEC Fact Finder-

Your argument is false. The “body of work” of which you speak favors OSU not Alabama. You might want to do a little research before you type.
(unless you want to show your ignorance? in that case, job well done!)

tmc, I am not one to argue with people who do not read my entire post. I know I am BIASED. That is a fact. I also compared the loss to Iowa St by Oklahoma to and SEC team losing to Vanderbilt.
You want to call someone out, please read my previous post. The next thing you need to catch up on is the fact that Iowa St. lost again on Saturday. The body of work of playing the SEC week in and week out is much greater than playing teams( who some have deemed) as the best conference in the country. I will gladly argue that teams like Mississippi St, Florida and Georgia would be right at the top of that conference if they played those teams. The fact that even Vegas Odds makers had OKSU as a 10 point underdog to LSU makes my point very relevant. UGA started out as a 10.5 point underdog to LSU. The opening line as LSU by 2.5 over Alabama.

My final point is this. I have seen every team in the SEC from the sidelines or pressbox with the exception of Kentucky, I watched the Oklahoma at FSU game from the sidelines, the LSU and Oregon game from the pressbox, the Texas A&M verse Arkansas game from the sideline and trying to compare those teams athletes on both sides of the ball to SEC teams is so far off that it is funny.

Oklahoma, Texas and Oklahoma St( T. Boone Pickens) all decided they were better than everyone else in their conference and wanted to guarantee that two of their teams would end up in BCS games, keep more money in their pockets and you saw teams leave the conference in packs. Then they saw they were getting left out and tried to join a weak Pac 10 ONLY to get Rejected. The next order of business was to fire their commissioner and bring in a guy who was the former Big 8 Commissioner to sell an idea of unity. Well folks that horse left the barn and he ran to the neighbors farm. The fact that losing to a 6-6 team who by all accounts is probably a 4-8 team in this conference says a great deal how ineffective a conference and poor those teams really are as a whole. When your 5th and 6th best teams are averaging 40 plus points a game it indicates that your conference is more worried about scoring points than they are about stopping teams from scoring.

And just in case you did not get the memo, Defense wins championships, offenses just sell a great deal of foam fingers pronouncing a team is No.1

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SEC tried to push the +1 system…. only the ACC would have it. Best of both worlds… Bama will get #14 and rest of nation is pissed off enough to force the +1. It’s great to be a BAMA fan!!!

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Blackoutanyone? Did you watch all 12 Bama games and all 12 OSU games? Does anybody watch all the games?

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tmc, I am not one to argue with people who do not read my entire post. I know I am BIASED. That is a fact. I also compared the loss to Iowa St by Oklahoma to and SEC team losing to Vanderbilt.

Should have typed “Oklahoma St.” not Oklahoma….

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Blackoutanyone?
December 4th, 2011
10:39 pm

kerryb…. haa haa suck it up son. There’s always next year. You don’t really want some Big 12 school playing for all the marbles do ya? SEC baby!!

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At least OKie state won their conference

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@kerryb its all about money period! Sad but true

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Bradley,

This is exactly why so many people say you post stuff you don’t believe in merely to get a reaction.

The Tide wasn’t selected because of their “brand.” They were selected because their RPI was #2, and they were ranked #2 in all the human polls. The system worked precisely as it is supposed to work, as it was written to work, and as it was designed to work!

I’m not even an Alabama alum, not even an SEC alum.

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Realist, I understand that argument, but watching Oklahoma St destroy a good Oklahoma team, and win a pretty tough conference overrules the Iowa St mishap. Ok St missed a field goal late in the Iowa St game. If they made it then would that make them a better football team then Bama?

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WHY DO YOU THINK ADAMS (UGA PRESIDENT) DIDNT GET THE NCAA JOB? IT WAS ABOUT THAT SAME TIME THAT ESPN HASHED OUT THEIR CURRENT 15 YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE SEC. HOW INAPPROPRIATE WOULD IT APPEAR, IF THERE WAS A FORMER SEC SCHOOL PRESIDENT IN CHARGE OF A (CORRUPT) SYSTEM COLLUDING TO PLACE THE CONFERENCE HE WAS ONCE REPRESENTING AT THE FOREFRONT OF ALL OTHER CONFERENCES, TO ENSURE ESPN IT’S LARGE PIECE OF FISCAL PIE.

By representing the conference as powerful and unyielding each and every year and not pairing them with the most powerful out of conference teams in bowl games (ala UGA vs HAWAII vice UGA vs. USC in 2007), it ensures that the best High School athletes (the one’s with NFL aspirations) will give SEC schools the benefit of the doubt and consider them first and foremost. They can only take so many of the best athletes each year. Usually the most athletic and smartest. Everyone else gets the rest. To gain some equal footing those schools have had to break a few rules to entice these athletes away from the SEC. The media (ESPN has their hands in a lot of pockets) has created this powerhouse conference but refuses to allow them to prove it on the field. Yeah, you get the token games like a young talented but inexperienced UGA team against a seasoned Boise St team in the first game of the year. And LSU vs. OREGON, again early in the year, knowing that with their “strength of schedule” a loss could be overcome and explained when referencing their “BODY OF WORK” at the end of the year. All of this is thought out well in advance. It’s calculated and no other college sport has that kind of open end of year format that allows for politicing and smoozing to determine who is going to play for a championship that doesn’t even exist in any kind of official records.

REDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WISE UP??? BOYCOTT THIS GAME AND MAKE IT VOCAL. IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER WHO WINS OR LOSES THIS GAME ANYWAY. NEITHER TEAM HAS AN OFFENSE THAT CAN MOVE THE BALL ON THE OTHER and LSU HAS ALL BUT BEEN DECLARED NATIONAL CHAMPIONS REGARDLESS. I WONDER HOW OK ST WOULD DO WITH THEIR POWERFUL OFFENSE. Would it be a scoring duel? UGA proved that if you have players that can execute and hold on to the football, you can score against LSU’s vaunted defense (they dropped two sure touchdown passes in the first half…youngsters). And their offense can be stopped or slowed down. I believe OK ST would give them a run for their money….no pun intended.

After this season is over, ESPN has some explaining to do. AND I HOPE THERE IS A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GETS INVOLVED BECAUSE I DON’T TRUST CONGRESS EITHER. You can bet, with the kind of money involved in this thing, anybody can be bought.

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kerryb:

You hit on the beauty contest aspect of the BCS.

WHY WOULD ANY SCHOOL OR FAN BUY INTO THAT HYPOCRISY?

The voters who love you this year might just hate you next year.

The so called, “RULES” the talking heads claim to follow change each year.

This is a beauty contest. The resulting matchups are meaningless.

OkSU has a legitimate argument for playing against LSU. The problem is ESPN has deemed them unworthy. So they won’t get their shot.

I wonder….if LSU loses to Alabama and OkSU wins their bowl…is is possible they would leap over Bama for #1?

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they didnt stop us last game but we sure stopped them.

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espn didnt vote. the coaches did.

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kerryb… Southern Miss won there’s as well. What’s your point? Look I understand being upset about 2007. Who wouldn’t be? But if you know football.. which I would guess you do.. then you can’t deny Bama is one of the two best teams and Oky State isn’t. Beyond that the rest is fluff to argue about.

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Why bother with a National Champ Game? Just award it to whoever wins the SEC and let whoever beats Vanderbilt in a bowl game be Number 13 behind all the SEC teams–

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WHY DO YOU THINK ADAMS (UGA PRESIDENT) DIDNT GET THE NCAA JOB? IT WAS ABOUT THAT SAME TIME THAT ESPN HASHED OUT THEIR CURRENT 15 YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE SEC. HOW INAPPROPRIATE WOULD IT APPEAR, IF THERE WAS A FORMER SEC SCHOOL PRESIDENT IN CHARGE OF A (CORRUPT) SYSTEM COLLUDING TO PLACE THE CONFERENCE HE WAS ONCE REPRESENTING AT THE FOREFRONT OF ALL OTHER CONFERENCES, TO ENSURE ESPN IT’S LARGE PIECE OF FISCAL PIE.

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It’s too bad Georgia doesn’t have a “brand”, isn’t it? This Alabama team would whip any team Georgia has ever fielded.

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Lets ask one more question.

Put Oklahoma St, Oklahoma, Texas and Baylor in the SEC. Give them Florida or Tennessee’s schedule, where do they finish. This was just an odd year where UGA did not play the top three teams in the conference, in normal years they play at least two of the top 4 teams in the conference and yet UGA still has a heck of a team, played LSU great for 33 minutes.

My opnion is that Oklahoma St would have lost two to three, Oklahoma would have lost 4, Texas would have lost 5 to 7, and Baylor would have lost 5 to 7. Got to have more respect for Texas A & M for realizing that finishing 6 and 6 was not good enough, fired their coach and know that playing in the SEC means upgrading their entire program.

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GTBob, I don’t know who would win if Bama and Ok State played. But I watched Bama dominate a lot of teams this year, and I’m not sure how good a banged up Oklahoma team is at this moment. Fact is, both teams had control of the situation, both lost on missed field goals, and left it up to a bunch of voters and computers.

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So I guess the ny giants didn’t deserve to win the sb in 2008 cause they lost to NE the last week of the season and they also didn’t win their division. Nice logic.

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REDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN ARE WE GOING TO WISE UP??? BOYCOTT THIS GAME AND MAKE IT VOCAL. IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER WHO WINS OR LOSES THIS GAME ANYWAY. NEITHER TEAM HAS AN OFFENSE THAT CAN MOVE THE BALL ON THE OTHER and LSU HAS ALL BUT BEEN DECLARED NATIONAL CHAMPIONS REGARDLESS. I WONDER HOW OK ST WOULD DO WITH THEIR POWERFUL OFFENSE. Would it be a scoring duel? UGA proved that if you have players that can execute and hold on to the football, you can score against LSU’s vaunted defense (they dropped two sure touchdown passes in the first half…youngsters). And their offense can be stopped or slowed down. I believe OK ST would give them a run for their money….no pun intended.

After this season is over, ESPN has some explaining to do. AND I HOPE THERE IS A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GETS INVOLVED BECAUSE I DON’T TRUST CONGRESS EITHER. You can bet, with the kind of money involved in this thing, anybody can be bought.

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damn alabama fans, you guys have to come in the great state of GA to get the 4/5 state recruits, the state of bama dont have the caliber of players that GA does ….hahaha

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Who cares, it’s all nonsense anyway. I’d rather be in Okie State’s shoes than Bama’s anyway. Okie State won the only legit title they could play for, and Bama lost the only legit title it could play for. A mythical championship is good for bragging rights, but not much else.

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Dan, LSU needed a INT for a TD near the end of the game to barely beat TN in the championship game and lost their last game at home in 2007. UGA after that TN game was beating all of their opponents by 30 points. That UGA team would have crushed that LSU team in the title game on 07 if they had a chance to play them

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After this season is over, ESPN has some explaining to do. AND I HOPE THERE IS A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GETS INVOLVED BECAUSE I DON’T TRUST CONGRESS EITHER. You can bet, with the kind of money involved in this thing, anybody can be bought.

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damn alabama fans, you guys have to come in the great state of GA to get the 4/5 state recruits, the state of bama dont have the caliber of players ….hahaha hahaha

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Jay
December 4th, 2011
10:49 pm

So I guess the ny giants didn’t deserve to win the sb in 2008 cause they lost to NE the last week of the season and they also didn’t win their division. Nice logic.

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Georgia loses to LSU by 32 and Bradley writes of Georgia that “progress is evident”. Alabama took LSU to overtime, blew out everybody else they played, and Bradley pretends that he believes that makes Alabama’s body of work less impressive than Oklahoma State. He pretends that Georgia, which lost 2 games in 2007 including a 3 touchdown beating from Tennessee, had a claim to the BCS championship game in 2007 that is comparable to Alabama’s case this year.

Steve Spurrier was right about Bradley.

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Interesting that the only folks ripping MB and defending ESPN are Bama fans. But I guess if the shoe were on the other foot, we Dawg fans would probably be doing the same thing. In the end, I wonder if Bama fans care one bit that a vast majority of the country does not want to see this game again.

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Bama can be called the best team in the nation, despite failing to win its own division and conference, by splitting a season series with LSU? That makes no sense. If the SEC is the best conference in the country, then the SEC champ is the national champion, end of story. The Hat’s already won it, Bama fans just haven’t figured it out.

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So will people feel good about Alabama being National Champions if they win a close game against LSU?

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This is to bama grad, well alabama doesn’t deserve to be there either, they didn’t win their division or conference for that matter, funny how the argument about winning your conference doesn’t apply to saban and his minions, but let it be any other team, i.e., UGA in 2007 and those rules are strickly enforced, funny how that happens huh?? au had their shot and they blew it the first time around, you know it, the country knows it and ESPN sure as hell knows it, but they can’t keep their collective noses out of saban’s ass long enough to realize it) that Ok St belongs in the National championship, not bama, not by any stretch, hope LSU rips bama a new one…..

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“And now we’re faced with this scenario: A winner of nothing save some eyeball test can split two games against another team … and be declared national champ. Some “system” this is.”

Bingo, it’s not a system, it’s a farce. But that’s nothing new, the concept of a “national champion” in college football has always been a farce. At least in the past they played all of the major bowl games and then sorted it out. Now, they deem only two teams worthy of being crowned and pit them in a winner take all match. It’s a joke.

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DP, I think what he is saying is that UGA was #4 in the BCS when the 1 and 2 teams lost and didn’t get to move up. A team that beat it’s last 6 opponents by 30 points in each game and was playing better than anyone in the country at that time.

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people are hating because they all watched the first game and know who should have won and this time we will.

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Bradley can’t bring himself to mention that Georgia was only in the SEC championship game this year because they didn’t play any of the best 3 teams in the league, LSU, Alabama and Arkansas. We saw yesterday what happened when they finally played one of them. But then Bradley writes that Alabama didn’t play Georgia, as if Alabama wouldn’t have welcomed the chance to beat Georgia like a drum.

What a pathetic joke.

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hit ‘em where it hurts, don’t watch the game….. Boycott the BCS Championship! I am a lifetime SEC fan but think the “Re-match” is a bunch of bs. Let the LSU and Bama fans watch the game, everyone else tune into Andy Griffith re-runs.
I don’t get these Bama fans either who think they should get a re-match and have been talking about since the second the first game ended. How can you lose at home, miss however many field goals it was, not win the division or play for the conference title, and still expect to play in the national championship. If Bama is fortunate enough to win then what will they be, “Co-Champions”…the record will be the same 1 – 1. Shouldn’t they then play another game to REALLY decide who is champion. If the first loser gets a mulligan shouldn’t the second? I am sure Bama fans will find some way to justify things.
I say Boycott the BCS….maybe if the viewership is appallingly low for the game it will help stir the pot for a playoff system. Hit them where it hurts, in the wallet.

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poor Eric C…………………..go do what all good “dawgs” do after getting a national TV humiliating ASSWHUPPING from a better team…………………go lick your wounds…………..you know what i mean, dont you, loser????? Watch Bama……………learn how a winner plays in a big game………….they may win or lose, but they WONT CRAP THEIR PANTS LIKE THE MIGHTY DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD WHAT A SMALL PROGRAM YOU FOLKS HAVE……………..1 NC WIN IN 31 YEARS, AND YOU DIDNT PLAY BAMA THAT YEAR……………….

WHEN IS YOUR NEXT BLACKOUT ERIC???????????

LOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Bradley eats feces for breakfast…always has.

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eric c did you see jefferson play yesterday? bama would have defenitely blowed them out.

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Justice would be that no matter what happens in this game they should name LSU champs.

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wesley,

There is no rule about winning your conference, division, state, or zip code. Can you guys let 2007 go?! You had two horrible losses that year. It was four years ago.

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So many of your points were absolute nonsense….We both know that Bama is the second best team in the nation. Period. You can’t lose to a 6-6 team and play for a natl title. Your article may have had some validity if it weren’t for the fact that winning your conference is NOT part of the requirements to play in the Natl Championship Game (a rule that was prob put in place b/c of Notre Dame). You can’t compare Ok St and Bama fairly anyway- no common opponents- all you can do is look at the body of work. Now, do you honestly think that if Bama had lost to, say Vandy (6-6) that they would have had the opportunity to still play for the title? No way. Wouldn’t happen. And don’t give me “well, if vandy was their only loss then that means that they would have beaten LSU”…leave them out- let’s say Bama’s best win would have been Arkansas (comparable to Ok St)…who gets in then? I would have to say things would probably have turned out differently…..think about it

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OK, here’s the deal guys. LSU, if you can beat Alabama twice in the season, you will be the national champs. Alabama, if you can beat LSU once in the season, you will be the national champs. Hey, it worked that way for FSU and Florida in ‘96 so why not do it again?

Fair? Not really, but Alabama’s 80-year “body of work” gives them a slight edge over LSU in the “eyeball test.”

Oklahoma State? Never heard of ‘em.

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folks we all fell in love with corporations and wounder why we get upset with coruption

play off is fair and just but —money and fairness have nothing in common

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Wrong again kerry. Those pesky facts.

Sat, Nov 3 Troy W 44-34 —
Sat, Nov 10 (18) Auburn W 45-20 —
Sat, Nov 17 (22) Kentucky W 24-13 —
Sat, Nov 24 at Georgia Tech W 31-17

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And now we’re faced with this scenario: A winner of nothing save some eyeball test can split two games against another team … and be declared national champ. Some “system” this is.

A great point Bradley. If Bama does when the BCS championship game, why would they be declared champions? Or would they? LSU/Bama split two games, why would Bama be champ? I know, they won the big game and lost regular season game.

A playoff is needed, but it makes to much easy sense for it to ever happen. We are a smart country and we have smart minds, we need to make it happen. This 35 + bowl games a year make me sick and is ridiculous. The next time I hear a team needs to win to become ” Bowl Eligible “, I think I will puke.

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“puppies,”

I saw UGA hold LSU to 12 yds in the first half…but LSU has too much depth. They just wear you out. When Bama plays LSU on a neutral field, it will be all LSU…I’m sorry but that is life. If UGA played Bama yesterday, it would have been much closer in the end. LSU is better than Bama…they beat Ark worse, they beat Auburn worse, and they beat Bama in Bama. It’s already been decided.

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DAn, they still didnt lose the last game of the year at home like LSU did. Usually you lose late your out.

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Bama can be called the best team in the nation, despite failing to win its own division and conference, by splitting a season series with LSU? That doesn’t make sense. If the SEC is the best conference in the country, then LSU is already the NC. The Hat’s already won it; Bama fans just haven’t figured it out yet. Geaux Tigers!

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Note the key word usully. They also won their last game beating a team that blew you out. Get a clue.

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At least Okie State would have given LSU a game. Their offense is 10 times better than Alabama’s and LSU already knows how to stop that.

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2006, Michigan ranked second in AP and third in Coaches poll after losing to Ohio State. USC was ranked third in AP and second in Coaches. Florida 4th in both.

USC loses last game, Fla wins SEC title game and Michigan has no more games just like Alabama didnt this week. Florida jumps Michigan but OSU doesnt jump Bama after winning its Confernace title against a top 10 opponent?

Shameful, disgraceful, pathetic, rigged.

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I will accept mark’s thesis that Alabama made the national championship game because we are a “brand.” Which means the reason that UGA didn’t make the national championship game in 2007 is because they are not. I know that hurts, Georgia, but the truth hurts. That’s why yall are so pissed and hurt. And guess what, your opinion is as relevant as your team.

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Hey UGA fans,

I understand that your misdirected anger towards BAMA stems from yesterday’s game.

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Dan, thats the stupid thing about losses and how they look. Losses are losses. It depends on how you are playing at the end and at the end UGA could have beaten ANYONE that year at the end. You are talking about a game that happened the first week of October.

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kerryb,

How many top-50 defenses did Okie State face this year?

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Eric C.
December 4th, 2011
11:10 pm

Dan, you are crazy…losing at Knoxville to the SEC East Champs is not nearly as bad as losing to KY, even if it was in OT

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Or losing to Arkansas in you last game of the year at home. That should have disqualified them but as I remember their coach got in front of the mics when we were ahead of them whining and crying to the media.

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South Carolina was higher ranked, had the same record as GA and BEAT them head to head, therefore GA had no business playing for the SEC championship game.

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and it showed on the field.

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Thank you for calling out espn. Tv contracts, money rule this sport, every other sport has figured it out. Even poker has a playoff!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oklahoma State’s defense was ranked 107th in the country going into Saturday. If they play Bama 10 times they MIGHT win 2 if they get extremely lucky. Same old same old. How did Oregon’s offense look against 2 SEC defense. Certainly not as overwhelming as they did against the PAC 12. And the BIG 12/8 defenses are worse. You may not like it, but the two best teams are playing each other. And I’m a UGA lifer, btw…

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Popycock Mark! Yes, OK State is a very good team but the BCS is supposed to pick the 2 best teams. In my opinion there is no doubt that they did so. If you really think OKS is better that Alabama, you must also think they are better than LSU. Maybe they should send OKS and Kansas State or someone to the championship game. Just because the ‘average fan’ wants to see a 65-64 game doesn’t mean they are great teams. Before the BCS the bowls practically insured that the best 2 teams would not meet. Has everyone forgotten that? If you want to really find out who are the best teams, expand to a playoff system using the top 25 or so teams and start paying the players. What people seem to want is a college version of the NFL.

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5IML
December 4th, 2011
11:12 pm

kerryb,

How many top-50 defenses did Okie State face this year?

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Doesn’t mean they couldn’t have beaten one. I would like to have seen them give it a try but because of the media they will not. Your coach got on TV stumping and whining like a little girl to try and keep that from happening when he was scared of that.

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The puppies are just upset cause another National Championship will be won by an SEC team for the sixth year in a row and UGA is not one of them

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The annual UGA reality check just came a few weeks later this year since Florida had such a rough year!

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Well I guess this goes to prove that the regular season doesn’t matter because the girls from Toothaloosa lobbied their way to a second date. That 1st game meant nothing nor did ANY games on Saturday….except for “open”………and the hypocrites at ESPN and Puke Fartbaum with their marching orders to promote this rematch simply smell bad. Want to do something about it? Don’t watch it and help bust the ratings. It’s the only way.

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5IML, I was probably watching college football before you were born.

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What do LSU, Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, and FREAKING Auburn have in common???

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just because they scored 6 tds against puppies so called good defense you dont have to praise them that much just in case you didnt notice they didnt score 1 on us.

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No one is asking the much simpler question. Why do we even need to crown a champion? I love college football, but I don’t give two turds about who gets the title each year. Whether it was by votes or this terrible system, in the end it doesn’t really change the sport. The players get swag, bragging rights, and little else for playing in the title game. Meanwhile coaches, businessmen and bureaucrats make millions. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.

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Bama can be called the best team in the nation, despite failing to win its own division and conference, by splitting a season series with LSU? That doesn’t make sense. If the SEC is the best conference in the country, then LSU is already the NC. The Hat’s already won it; Bama fans just haven’t figured it out yet. Geaux Tigers!

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Sour Grapes, not nearly as much as Bama fans and their little girl coach would have done if it had actually happened. They would have probably killed some more trees somewhere.

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Bradley,

You have never hidden your dislike for Bama. Where does it state in the BCS that you have to win your conference? Especially, when you play in the toughest division of the #1 conference and lose to the #1 team in overtime by a field goal. Anybody, including all you so called SEC supporters who think Okie State would stand a chance against LSU or Bama, you are badly mistaken. Okie State loses to Iowa State, the Ole Miss/Kentucky of the Big 12, and they deserve it over Bama??? Give me a break!

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The last time UGA one a title, did you fans (who were alive) have to get up and turn the dial on the TV?

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If Okie State would have jumped Alabama their idiotic fans would have killed some trees somewhere.

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2 SEC teams playing in the BCS Championship Game just makes it look like they SEC has the BCS in their back pocket. How can we prove the SEC is the best when the SEC isn’t playing a team from another conference? You can’t. Now all of these people are going to be bad mouthing the SEC and saying that there’s no way we can be the best conference because we played each other in the BCS Title Game. I agree with all of those that say it should be 2 teams from 2 different conferences.

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SEC 6 years in a row…

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The annual UGA reality check just came a few weeks late this year due to UF being down.

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College Football is like wrestling and NASCAR. All three make the rules up as they go then break them with impunity and are cash cows whose milk is lapped up by a gullible public like dumb dogs.

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Beat Boise if you want to be considered…

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Bradley says Alabama got the nod over OK State because of its brand but doesn’t mention, probably doesn’t even know, that Alabama was #1 nationally in defense against the run, defense against the pass, total defense and scoring defense.

And because Alabama has a brand, they don’t even have a cute nickname for their defense, like “Junkyard Dawgs” for the 1976 defense of Georgia that couldn’t carry the jock straps of the 2011 Alabama defense. And Alabama doesn’t have cute names like “Dream Team” for its recruiting classes even though they outperform Georgia’s recruiting classes. And they don’t wear NIKE combat uniforms or have “black outs”.

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all your ga boys are coming west kerry b . must stink in ga

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You would think they would be proud of their conference dominating the way it has for the last six years. They are already all but guaranteeing a victory over Mich State because of their SEC level defense but out of the other side of their mouths they say they don’t think the two most dominating defenses in the country should be playing for the NC, but instead a team that is all offense, no defense. Been there done that. LSU has already beat that type of team in Oregon. I want to see the two best teams play and from how these two teams played earlier this year that is LSU and ALA, like it or not. Who else has stopped LSU this year? Certainly not the bulldogs; 42-10

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Mark, normally your columns are suspect and full of opinion to stir up debate, but this one was the best written one of the year for you. So good, that I felt the need to post a comment. Email me and you can buy me a beer next time I’m in Atlanta.

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This system is a total joke. Great article, Mark. To all those who are sick of this crap, DO NOT TUNE YOUR SETS INTO THIS GAME. Dont watch it. Dont go the sports bar to watch it. Go to the movies instead or get a good book. Do anything but give these guys the ratings they think they will get for this fraud.

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kerryb… your funny… but truely an embarrasement the UGA fan base. To carry on about 2007 is … well sad. Let it go bro. Hey you still have Helen Hunt coaching your team and that’s got to count for something right?

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We can’t know who will win head to head games unless they play.

As Chris Berman has famously quipped, “That’s why they play the games.”

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What irritates me is we have what 6 weeks before the game? Christ just have bama and ok st play in 2 weeks to determine which goes. This sport is insane.

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Mike, they won’t get ratings anyway. 2/3’s of the country is going to care less about this game. It will probably be the lowest viewed title game in history. Some of the bowl games are going to probably have higher rankings. The Rose Bowl will probably have better ratings.

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No worries…..the SEC backlash has already started with the Big 10 and the ACC and it’s only going to grow. Be careful what you wish for SEC……you want to be in a league of your own….you might just find yourself there faster than you realize.

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Blackoutanyone?
December 4th, 2011
11:35 pm

kerryb… rematch of the SEC? LOL u don’t want that.

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We should get the shot if you are. I don’t believe Bama held them to no first downs and 12 yards in a half and Bama didn’t score 10 points on them. Won’t this time either with a one dimensional offense.

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The objective of the BCS is to pair the 2 best teams in the nation for the title game. Mission accomplished haters.

Does any moron on here actually believe that the team which ranked 107th in the nation defensively in yards allowed could hang with LSU toe to toe like Alabama? Uhhhhhh. That would be no.

Oh. One more thing. Please enlighten the NFL which has had Super Bowl rematches of teams that played in the regular season, which has had rematches in conferences championship games, and which has featured division rivals playing for a freaking 3rd time in the playoff, of just how freaking stupid a rematch is. Please let them know that any rematch of 2 teams that happened to have played earlier is a waste of time. Lemme know how that goes. And while you’re at it ask the NFL why divisional opponents play twice a year. Why do they have these dadgum rematches???

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I guess Vegas believes Bama will make field goals this time around since they are favored to win.

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Coach Bryant would have lost to LSU with class, but not l’ill nicky! Bryant would not have talked about a rematch. Nick said himself that if you don’t win your conference you shouldn’t play for a title! Why should LSU have to play Bama twice? ! Auburn was told, well you played the Citadel, but Bama plays a three year program in GA.Southern in 09 and no biggee. Not to mention they were on PROBATION then and now. They have been on probation since 95 plus repeat offender status until 2014!! BCS is a joke! The human perspective in this is even worse! Let someone else have a shot!

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if you didnt see who the better team was the first time, you should be banned from watching football.

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kerryb, I know numbers are hard, but 42-10. 42-10. 42-10. I know you ‘won’ the first half, and that is so cute. Did they give you a little “First Half Winner” trophy, like the ones they give all the kids who play in little league? Cause God knows there is PLENTY of space in UGA’s trophy case.

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kerryb,

And I dont believe alabama allowed LSU to score a whopping 42 points either. And we didnt allow LSU to beat us by a 32 pt margin but rather by a 3 pt margin in overtime. Gawd them dawg fans is stupid.

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Bama had their chance.

And lost.

My big question is if Bama wins game 2 and forces a Game 3 where will it be held ?

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Bama isn’t favored.

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The computers have OSU at number 2.

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The BCS and the media can call it whatever they want but they won’t sell me on this being a National Championship game. It makes no sense whatever to re-match Alabama in lieu of a top team from another conference. I’m a UGA fan, but a severe national backlash on the SEC and BCS would be well deserved.

ESPN has become a disease. Don’t even get me started on them.

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Bradley,

Didn’t have to play Georgia? Are you kidding me? Are you serious? The same mighty Georgia that just got there $#@%$ handed to them by LSU…the same LSU that was held to only 9 points by Bama. You embarass yourself when it comes to college football.

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i already saw this game. lsu won 9-6!

Unfortunately they are showing it again as if it wasn’t boring enough the first time.

Hopefully someone will actually score a touchdown this time.

I wont know because I wont be watching like everyone else.

Nobody is going to care about the game really.

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