Yet another BCS whiff: Alabama’s brand burns the Cowboys
Maybe there'll be a touchdown scored the second time around. Then again ... (AP photo)
Nobody ever said the BCS made sense, and this year it makes less sense than … well, can you make less sense than zero? Alabama did not win its division and did not win its conference but could well be the national champion in a sport where we’re told Every Game Counts.
Actually, what this year’s serving of BCS glop tells us is that it’s good to have an aura. Nick Saban has an aura, albeit one of fire and brimstone, which means Alabama has an aura, which means Alabama got a nod it didn’t deserve.
Bama played its two toughest conference games — LSU and Arkansas — at home. It didn’t play either Georgia or South Carolina, the best teams in the SEC East. It played five teams that finished with a winning record, and one was Georgia Southern. The Tide beat three teams that finished the Top 25 of the BCS standings.
Oklahoma State played four such teams and won all four games. It played seven teams that finished with winning records. The Cowboys did, for mavens of minutiae, win their conference title. The knock on them is that they lost to unranked Iowa State. But they did lose on the road, and in overtime.
Alabama, the counter-argument goes, only lost in OT to the nation’s No. 1 team. But Alabama lost at home. Alabama was favored that night and couldn’t win. But because Alabama is coached by the dark lord Saban and because Alabama is from the SEC, which is the feeder league for BCS titlists, the Tide gets a second chance.
And this time the talking heads on ESPN, who make less sense with every week, had no problem with the concept of a rematch or the reality of a non-conference champion playing for the BCS crown. (Oddly enough, some of those same voices hooted down Georgia’s credentials in 2007. “Can’t consider a team that didn’t win its conference,” the ESPN choir harrumphed.) And Saturday night, moments after Oklahoma State finished routing Oklahoma, which entered the season ranked No. 1, some ESPN boys leaped at the chance to say, “Ah, that doesn’t really matter.”
“SportsCenter” opened with the highlights of the SEC title game and then Oklahoma State’s dismissal of its bitter rival. Then the Bristol anchors tossed, as they say in TV, to Brent Musburger and Kirk Herbstreit. Musburger, who had famously lobbied for Georgia Tech to be promoted above Colorado to No. 1 when calling Tech’s victory in the Citrus Bowl in January 1991, started with a little joke. What’s wrong with a rematch, he asked, and cited the extremely appropriate case study of Rocky Balboa versus Apollo Creed.
Then Herbstreit dismissed Oklahoma State by saying the Cowboys had lost in Ames, Iowa, and, more to the point, didn’t pass “the eyeball test.” Which made you wonder: How could Kirk Herbstreit know just how Oklahoma State had looked against Oklahoma? He (and Musburger) had been sitting in a booth in Charlotte, N.C., calling the ACC title game.
Because big-time college football has no playoff grid, ephemeral stuff like “the eyeball test” and someone’s opinion — yours, mine and especially Kirk Herbstreit’s — are allowed to hold disproportionate sway. Alabama won’t be playing for the (exceedingly mythical) national championship because it had a better season than Oklahoma State but because its has the stronger brand. It’s Alabama. It plays in the SEC. It’s coached by Saban. Good enough for me! Give that team a second chance!
And that’s what big-time college football has become — a game of brands, not reality. Is it mere coincidence that ESPN has a 15-year contract to carry SEC games? (ESPN also has a contract with the Big 12, Oklahoma State’s diminishing league, but the bigger Big 12 package is with Fox Sports.)
This was a year when opinion mattered. Five of the seven computer rankings had Oklahoma State above Alabama, but the Tide finished ahead in both human polls. Why? Because of the brand. You cannot tell me that if Alabama’s name were attached to Oklahoma State’s body of work and vice versa that the results wouldn’t have been different. We all know they would have.
And now we’re faced with this scenario: A winner of nothing save some eyeball test can split two games against another team … and be declared national champ. Some “system” this is.
By Mark Bradley
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Tracy
December 6th, 2011
3:30 pm
I’m a Bama fan but would have loved seeing arrogant “little” teams with no defense like Oklahoma State get “STOMPED” by an SEC team like LSU. I would love a playoff so we could put to rest this bias against the much better SEC teams. Would give the SEC a chance to shut everyone up. Roll Tide!
"BoB"
December 6th, 2011
4:28 pm
Did anyone on here watch the OK State vs Iowa State game. I keep hearing about this B’ball coach tragedy affecting the Okie state team. Did they hold the wake at halftime? OKS blew a 24-7 3rd quarter lead! The “blowout” of OK, yea right! that’s BS. Landry Jones played like a third string high school QB!
"BoB"
December 6th, 2011
4:34 pm
Yes!! It’s Bears fault! OH wait… he didn’t vote, but Richt did. Gee I wonder who MR voted for?
RedandBlackDawg
December 6th, 2011
5:13 pm
Swhite, make that two sports. The lower weight divisions have tournaments all the time to decide who gets to box for the championship of the different divisions. I think the WBC has one ongoing now in the super welterweight division. Not so for the heavy weights though.
JB
December 6th, 2011
5:17 pm
Does anyone not agree that LSU and Alabama are the two top teams in the nation? Do you really think OSU has a better team than Bama?
RedandBlackDawg
December 6th, 2011
5:29 pm
Reality Gator,
You wouldn’t know reality if it bit you in the butt. Here’s a piece of reality for you. Your new coaching staff appears to be losing out to their committed recruits as well as one supposedly interested in your school.
Reality is, you have a lot of rebuilding to do, and it is doubtful you have the coaching staff to do it.
Reality is, that OSU will probably whup your butt, and have your former coach there to cheer them on.
Reality is UGA beat you last year, and looks to mob you for a few more years to come. UGA is on the up elevator and UF is going down.
reality is that you ignore reality. You need to stay on your Florida blog. They need your support badly.
Reality is that jealousy will not get you anywhere. You couldn’t even steal the top RB in the country. He let your coaches visit because he is a decent young man. Call it a courtesy. Of course, in the process, you also alienated the running back you had coming. He is now thinking seriously about TENN. over you guys. What does that say.
Reality is reality bites. Consider yourself now thoroughly bitten in the SEC.
GO DAWGS and GATA
Delicate Dawg
December 6th, 2011
5:35 pm
@Murphy
The two best teams are playing for the NC. The winner of the game will be the National Champion. No previous games have any effect on determining the NC. LSU became the NC in 2007 when they defeated OSU, although OSU still had a better W/L record even after losing to LSU. This is how it works.
I know that Georgians are butt-hurt over yet another disappointing season, but you gain nothing from obsessing over what the other teams are doing.
62-39-5 vs Tech- 48-40-2 vs Florida
December 6th, 2011
6:12 pm
I know that Georgians are butt-hurt over yet another disappointing season
We may be disappointed in the second half of last Sat. game but I don’t think many of us are disapointed in a ten win season, especially in light of the fact that on Sept. 12 we were 0-2 and did not know how we would finish.
I think a lot of us are upset that in 07 we could go to the NC BECAUSE WE DIDN’T WIN OUR DIVISION OR CONFERENCE, but it doesn’t seem to matter with Alabama,it shouldn’t have matter with Georgia four years ago.
BC$ Slave
December 6th, 2011
7:00 pm
Rob and Black:
Let me say first…you need to stop with the insulting, condescending comments. Frankly, I’m not saying what I think of the two of you because, well, that would be stooping to the level of a 7 year old.
As for your belief that the conference champ playoff is “simplistic”–I agree. I’m glad that at least one of you see that the BC$ is an unfair, corrupt system. Good. That’s a place we can agree as well.
Now…here’s your first problem: there is no way to fix the poll system.
Let me say it again a different way–there is no way to eliminate biased voters with agendas, no way to take out the corruption of ESPN and the media unfairly promoting teams, there is no way to make it fair.
As long as we have any human poll system the rankings will always be subjective and suspect..
Here’s problem number 2: For all people’s protestations…judging football teams is not exact science.
You guys say I am “simplistic” but that is not the case. I realize the number of variables that go into every game…the number reaches into the hundreds. OkSU lost to Iowa St.—that’s the prevailing knock on them. OkSU had just suffered through a tragedy as well prior to the game. That is just one of the many variables.
Some argue their national rank in D is 107th. Have you ever heard of a team that is actually better than they look on paper? To use a more simple illustration–look at Tim Tebow. On paper…the guy should not be playing QB in the NFL. But there is that intangible quality that helps him lead a team to victory despite his poor passing numbers. Teams can have the same intangibles.
I will agree…I too think bama and LSU are worthy. I am biased toward the SEC, so I think bama is better than OkSU. Problem is…NO ONE CAN MAKE A CREDIBLE ARGUMENT FOR THAT UNTIL THEY PLAY EACH OTHER.
The team that wins is the better team that day. Look at how Georgia Southern played bama. Bama didn’t look so good against them. If a few things had gone right for GS…they might have won. Crazier things have happened.
Final Question: How is it that you guys are OK with the sham that is the BC$? Is it because your team is in there? The poll voters are biased toward alabama.
Do you have the integrity to call for an end to the BC$?
Conference champ playoffs could allow for 14 conferences to enter a contestant. Or schools/conferences with similar size student bodjes and teams that would be considered top tier in size and speed, etc. could receive auto berths and the remaining slots filled with a selection committee made up of computer polls only. There are ways to make the conference champ playoff work but the problem is you guys feel you wouldn’t have as good a shot to make it each year.
At least admit your lack the integrity and the COURAGE to endorse a real playoff.
BC$ Slave
December 6th, 2011
7:08 pm
People keep saying, “UA and LSU are the best teams” and “Can you really say they are not the best?”
Each of us has opinions.
The problem with this whole system is it has that too much of it is based on opinion and not competition.
If human polls remain part of the equation over a competition based system…none of the smack talk, none of the pride in your team “winning it all” means anything. Its like taking pride in fantasy accomplishments.
DawgFan
December 6th, 2011
7:22 pm
BCS IS A LOAD OF BULL. LSU & BAMA ARE THE TWO BEST TEAMS IN M Y OPINION.
THAT’S THE PROBLEM THE BCS NC GAME IS COMPRISED OF TWO TEAMS THAT GOT THERE BECAUSE THE VOTERS AND COMPUTERS LIKED THEM BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.
NEED A PLAYOFF COMPRISED OF ONLY CONF WINNERS AND A COUPLE OF AT LARGE TEAMS.
IMHO NO NC THAT WAS VOTED IS LETIGIMATE.
Don R.
December 6th, 2011
8:26 pm
Hey MARK!!!!!!!! Have you seen the latest line on the Championship game?– 1 to 2 point spread—- be HONEST– what is the goal of the BCS?– You reckon they got it right?
Blackoutanyone?
December 6th, 2011
8:30 pm
BCS slave…”remaining slots filled with a selection committee made up of computer polls only” where exactly do you think those computers get their information? That’s right people program them to spit out what ever numbers they want. Why do you think the Big 12 is favored in the computers every year yet haven’t produced a BCS champion in years. “Conference champ playoffs could allow for 14 conferences to enter a contestant.” There are 11 FBS Conferences… will FCS(DII) be a part of this great idea of a “playoff”. I agree fully the system is corrupt and broken. If Saban can vote Bama #2 and Oky State #4 when every coach doesn’t have a vote… yea it’s broken. I disagree with your solution. (BTW it’s OK to disagree and doesn’t mean you or I lack integrity or COURAGE) For numerous reasons but mostly because it de-values the regular season and caters to the mid major programs that only play one legit game a year. Your idea would have merrit in my opinion if and only if NCAA moves to 4 or 8 “super conferences” and your playoff was limited to those conferences. The mid majors would be involved and ND would have to join a conference. Though many traditional rivalries would be lost… I could support that before allowing the Sunbelt, WAC, Mid American, Mtn. West and Conf. USA Champions to get a free ride into your playoff. Lastly.. the reason I originally took exception to you and Bradley is both seem to want to point the finger at one entity for the mess the BCS has created. You know the same system all the FBS conferences agreed to before the season started. That finger was pointed directly at Bama and its fans. I believe Bama fans would welcome a fair playoff system. With one of the top two teams in the nation this year… why wouldn’t we? Roll Tide!!
Corn Dawg
December 6th, 2011
8:32 pm
@BC$ Slave
You’re full of fecal material, my friend.
The polls work. They are the best method of judgment available. While individuals may be biased, their bias is counteracted by the opposing biases of others.
If Oklahoma State gets a pass for playing after a tragedy, then the same pass must be noted as a precedence and used in every future case of a team playing after a tragedy.
OK State’s defense is not a bumblebee, nor is it Tim Tebow. Their defense is ranked 107th because they aren’t very good at stopping other teams from moving the ball and scoring on them. They don’t look good on paper because they don’t look good on the field.
Why are you making excuses for this team?
Are you an OKS alumnus, or a fan? What else would motivate you to make illogical arguments for this football team?
Is it because you still (after all these years) want to make similar illogical arguments for Georgia not playing in the BCSCG in the 2007 season? They lost two games in 2007. One of them was to a team with a losing record, and the other was to the team that lost to LSU in the SECCG. UGA didn’t have a good argument in 2007. OK State does have a better leg to stand on than Georgia in 2007. At least they only had one loss… But it was to a team with a losing record. Do you really think that Alabama would have played for the NC the year they lost to Louisiana Monroe? What about Michigan the year they lost to Appy State? I don’t think so.
It doesn’t hurt to have a history of winning. But you don’t get to play in the Big Game when you lose to a loser. I don’t care who you are.
The Human Polls
December 6th, 2011
8:35 pm
We always get it right, but the losers never like it.
The Human Polls
December 6th, 2011
8:36 pm
You can’t play in the Big Game if you lose to a loser – We don’t care who you are.
Blackoutanyone?
December 6th, 2011
8:39 pm
BCS slave..this blog just ate my post. I’m not typing all that again. Top sum it up I agree with you about he human vote and the system is broken. There are 11 FBS conferences so I’m not sure how your getting 14. Either way I can’t support your idea unless that number is knocked down to 4 or 8 “super conferences”. Your way is a free ride for the mid major programs and I can’t support that. My biggest problem with you and Bradley is you seem to want to point the finger at one entity for the mess the BCS has created. You both seem to want to blame the University of Alabama for a system that was created and supported by all the conferences. You also say the Bama fans only support that system because our program is yet again in the championship game. Nothing could be further from the truth. Bama fans love college football and would welcome a fair playoff system. You just haven’t presented one yet. Roll Tide!
Kevin
December 6th, 2011
8:59 pm
I am glad to watch Bama and LSU again This time it is ironic that the Big 12 champion does not get to play for the National Championship. Go cry to Oklahoma. The LSU commisioner wanted to have a type of playoff system, but the Big 12 did not want it Oh well. Go SEC!!! My question is why Michigan and VT are playing in the Sugar Bowl?
The Human Polls
December 6th, 2011
9:06 pm
@Kevin
Michigan and VT are playing in the Sugar Bowl because they are decent helmet teams that bring a good crowd. We have nothing to do with that. Don’t take it so seriously. It’s only an exhibition game.
The Human Polls
December 6th, 2011
9:08 pm
The SEC did call for a plus 1 playoff in the BCS system, but only the ACC backed them up on it.
Jack
December 6th, 2011
9:13 pm
Why should Bama get a mulligan after a home loss to the Tigers? They got BEAT by a superior program.
Jill
December 6th, 2011
9:14 pm
Les Miles runs circles around Saban as a coach and a man of integrity.
The Human Polls
December 6th, 2011
9:22 pm
Jack & Jill,
Bama doesn’t get a Mulligan. They are Number 2. LSU is Number 1. That’s about all that we can do. It’s up to them to play the game.
Blackoutanyone?
December 6th, 2011
9:48 pm
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Blackoutanyone?
December 6th, 2011
10:05 pm
BCS slave… I think your friend Bradley has black balled me. lol I agree the system is broke. I disagree with your proposal as you have it. Can not support a system that gives the mid majors a free ride to a championship tournament.
Blackoutanyone?
December 6th, 2011
10:07 pm
BSC slave… I could only support a system involving conference champions if and only if the conferences realigned to form 8 “super conferences”. If the path to your playoff was equal for all I could support it. As you have it… it’s junk.
A playoff doesn't necessarily..
December 6th, 2011
10:08 pm
Playoffs don’t always mean the best teams win either. Can anyone say NYG over NE back in the Super Bowl a few years back. All this talk is nauseating. Sounds like a bunch of women in here.
Blackoutanyone?
December 6th, 2011
10:09 pm
BCS slave… my problem with you and your alter ego Bradley is you both seem to want to point the finger for this BCS mess at one entity… the University of Alabama. I don’t agree with the system because Bama benefitted from it.. but because it is the system we currently have. One that was agreed to by all the FBS confernces prior to the season.
William C.
December 6th, 2011
10:15 pm
How could Alabama ever be NC if it only gains a split with LSU? Looks like LSU should be crowned NC based on win at Alabama. That said I believe LSU will beat them like a drum.
Suzan
December 6th, 2011
11:35 pm
The LSU-Bama game was the most boring, over-hyped game ever, Why would anyone want to see THAT again? But Alabama was pre-ordained by the biased press to be #1, so they will be given every chance to redeem themselves so the so-called professional sportscasters won’t look bad..
BCS
December 7th, 2011
1:20 am
I’m not going to lie, the entire thing is a scam. UGA should have went in 07, and I’m pretty sure UGA just quit in the second half of the SEC Championship game, cause even if LSU lost, they would still go….what the hell is that?
the right
December 7th, 2011
1:45 am
U know nothing about football. Your end is near.
Tommy Tuberville
December 7th, 2011
5:49 am
Still waiting for a call. Anyone heard anything? Anything at all?
The Human Polls
December 7th, 2011
6:21 am
We really want to see you win one Georgia. It’s not our fault that you suck so badly. There’s only so much that we can do. Try hiring a real Head Coach next time. Maybe that will help.
RedandBlackDawg
December 7th, 2011
7:21 am
BCV$ Slave,
MY rant on reality gator is simply to let him know, that the crap he post about UGA is unjustified and I will defend the DAWGS anyway I see fit. I am tired of people coming onto a blog, and then insulting the DAWGS, when it has nothing to do with the article
As for the BCS, I know, not everybody agrees with it, but the only way probably to fix it, is with some kind of playoff. Even with a play off though, you will have to find a way to decide, what conference qualifies and who gets to play who in the playoffs. Once again, as long as a human poll is used to determine it, money will be the big consideration. The world of sports is all about money, no matter what level it is played on. From a purely football fan, that likes to watch a good football game, I think Okie ST. against LSU might be the more interesting game, but is it the best game. Is Okie ST. better than Alabama. Right now, the system in place has decided that it is not. AL. VS. LSU is what we have. The BCS has been in controversy it seems since the SEC has won it all of these times in a row. Number 6 will now be the streak and unless, the SEC has an off year, they will most likely be in the hunt each year, as long as the BCS stays the way it is now. I would love to see a play off system as long as it can be worked into a college schedule somehow and not interfere with finals etc. That system would have to be fashioned carefully, and eliminate the same type of thing that now goes on with the BCS. The more you can eliminate the human aspect in it, the better it will become.
The Human Polls
December 7th, 2011
8:15 am
Unless you can figure out a way to make it illegal for the elite football programs to field superior football teams year in and year out, then there is no playoff scheme that will allow the losers of the world to suddenly become winners. We’ve already tried scholarship limitations. How far must we go to force parity down the throats of college football? Perhaps we should institute an NFL style draft for high school recruits?
sam
December 7th, 2011
8:41 am
Why didn’t the great writer of this piece take a shot at his co-worker, Tony Barnhardt? Tony has proclaimed on tv many times, including last week, that the game should be between LSU and Bama. I love his quote that Bama didn’t play Georgia or South Carolina, the best in the east. Lucky for Georgia and South Carolina. Ark beat South Carolina and we know what Bama did to Ark, and look what LSU did to Georgia. No reason to think the Bama Georgia outcome would have been any different. At the end of the day, I love all the nashing of teeth and crying by all the non Bama fans.
The Voice of Reason
December 7th, 2011
8:45 am
What a farce that OSaban Bin Lyin’ was given a large pulpit by ESPN to politic for ‘Bama, both before and after the final votes. Speaking of, “Mr Morals and Ethics” was also crying that “everyone should be fair” on the vote; then, the sleazeball votes Oklahoma State FOURTH on his ballot. Les Miles, by the way, voted Alabama #2 and Okie State – his former school – #3.
king of mean
December 7th, 2011
8:47 am
Hey UGA – you’ll get your chance against against UA next yr. You’d better be prepared to play 2 halves of football… i’m just sayin…
Call it like it is
December 7th, 2011
8:50 am
Bama fans can continue to repeat the score of the LSU/Bama game, but it doesnt matter, you lost. Doesnt matter that it was OT, doesnt matter it was by 3. You were in your house, you had your chance and you lost. Okl should have a shot at the title. It would make for better football and draw more of an audience. LSU/Bama game had to be the most boring game of the year, and the rematch will be the same.
LHarding Dawg
December 7th, 2011
8:57 am
LSU and Alabama are the two best teams in America. They got in that position by grey shirting and over signing, something Alabama has been doing since Bear Bryant.
bamafan
December 7th, 2011
9:14 am
What is with those folks who say Bama should not get a second shot? Why should OK State get ANY shot when they couldn’t beat a 29 point underdog? Why is it that a loss to the #1 team should hurt a team’s chances worse than a loss to Iowa State? I don’t like the BCS any more than the rest of folks but the undefeated teams: Stanford, Boise St., Oklahoma State should have stayed that way if they wanted a shot. And the one loss teams: Oregon and Oklahoma should have stayed that way instead of losing a second game. Finally, is it legally possible for the 107th best team in total defense
(Oklahoma State) to really ever be the second best team in the nation?? Don’t blame Bama and don’t blame the SEC for the rematch…………….and you cannot really blame the BCS since apparently it achieved its stated purpose of pairing the two best teams for the title. Finally, when the SEC proposed the “plus one” format, the Big XII wanted no part of it. Be careful what you wish for……….
Mike Bobo 17 INT
December 7th, 2011
9:18 am
The BCS is a broken system, but the political aspect of this system is a tough nut to crack. We need to take the top 6 ranked teams, allow the top 2 to have a bye the first week, thus allowing 3-6 to play each other through the brackets. That would at least give some sort of support of a true national champion.
Until then, it is nothing more than a dog and pony show.
laa
December 7th, 2011
9:30 am
Michigan State should have not had to play Wisonsin for their division championship since they beat them in the regular season but they did! How can you say Alabama should not play LSU for the National Championship game based on this logic. Les Miles voted Alabama #2 so if he wanted to play Ok. State he would have voted them 2. Stop your whinning all Ok State had to do is beat an unranked Iowa State to be in the Championship game but they didn’t. The SEC should get rid of the East – West division and have the two top ranked teams play each other. The West has the 3 best teams in the SEC. SEC game would have been BAma and LSU and none of the crap Ok. State got robbed.
king of mean
December 7th, 2011
9:33 am
Mark Bradley – your disdain for Saban is, and always has been very evident. I have no problem with hearing everyones opinions. But don’t think, for one second, that if Mark Richt got fired for some reason and the Dawgs were able to hire Nick Saban that the Dawg nation would not be absolutely ecstatic…
You can gripe about the BCS all you want – but you can’t deny what Saban has done for the 2 SEC programs that he’s coached. You (Bradley) hate him because you know he has reached a pinnacle in his career where he really doesn’t need your blessings or flower throwings that the media sometimes does to coaches and programs and this bothers you and most of your print-media brethren. And for some reason, this gives y’all ammo to make snarky remarks about him…
The bottom line is – Saban reinstituted at Alabama the “brand” the minute he took over, and look at the results. Who can fault him even if he really does think OkSU is #3? So he worked the system a little? Maybe? And you think righteous Mark Richt woudn’t have done the exact same thing had he been in the position? You’re wrong. He would have and it would have been stupid of him not to have…
So, you can posture and postulate all you want – but Saban said it himself. There’s no reason to debate the BCS right now – it is the system we have and until it get’s changed – it is what it is. Get over it. Bama will be playing on 1/9 and will most likely win. They were the better team on both sides of the ball the first time around and nothing will change in V2 – except that Jefferson will play all 4 quarters until he gets hurt…
Bama 14 LSU 6
Bama 2011 BCS Champions. #14 if you’re keeping score…
GOTECH
December 7th, 2011
9:37 am
Since you took the cheap shot at Tech’s 1990 national champsionship, why don’t you do some research ( don’t think you may be capable of remembering ) of the extra down that Colorado received in the Missouri win.
Paul
December 7th, 2011
9:45 am
Happy holidays and Roll Tide as the team will win their 14th national champship, and all the lsu fans can enjoy a fruit drink prior to the loss, down in the french 1/4……………………
RipTider
December 7th, 2011
10:16 am
What a load of landfill. You whine about Ala having a better “brand” and somehow influencing voters, but ignore the fact that OSU lost to unranked Iowa St team and only dropped from 2nd to 4th in BCS, while Arkansas lost to LSU (#1 in the land) the next week and dropped from 3rd to 8th. You make light of Alabama having their chance against LSU, but should recall that 1) they missed 3 field goals in regulation and 2) a disputed interception negated a sure touchdown (again in regulation). Had that interception been ruled a catch and down by contact there was not enough “undisupted evidence” to overturn it either way. How’d your SEC East champ Dawgs do in the second half? Sounds like more sour grapes from your side to me.
Ryan
December 7th, 2011
10:18 am
Mark. Big difference in 07 is that UGA had two losses. OSU had one and also won the big ten. UGA had no right to play for the SEC title, yet alone a BCS title. If they had beat either UT or SC that year then they would’ve gotten a shot. Losers always make excuses and blame the system. Face it..you jackleg jawga clowns sniff a lot of stuff. National titles isn’t one of them.
shankit
December 7th, 2011
10:20 am
Saban, along with Miles and Meyer and SToops are carpet bagging Ohio coaches who fled south to plunder the SEC talent resources to gain fame. 6 out of the last 7 SEC NC’s have been won by
carpet bagging Ohio coaches who came south for the cash and fame.
Now, one these carpet baggers is going back home to Ohio, and plundering his former SEC school, by trying to steal their recruits, transfers, coaches and strength coaches to take the spoils back to the North.
Unfortunately, rumor has it, his wife will be staying in Gainesville??????