For its latest trick, the BCS renders the SEC title game moot

1st ?, but not on Saturday

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Mark
Right on the money – Dawgs had hottest team in the country in 2007 but couldn’t possibly go to the NC game cause they didn’t win their conference – what a joke if Alabama gets to play for it – who did they beat besides a bad Penn State team, a bad Auburn team, and an obviously not very good on the road Arkansas team? The whole system stinks and it stinks every year

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….almost anyways….

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could it be finally?

Let’s just win Saturday and let the chips fall where they may.

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“maladroit” damn it, had to look that one up…………..

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If OSU beats OU, then they should have a shot at LSU. The Big 12 has been very competitive this year. Bama lost to LSU on their home field.

If Bama beats LSU, then do you have a split title?

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Don’t know why, LSU should win the game …………but I gotta gut feeling Georgia wins this one with Munson calling the game from the Heavens.

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So, why blame Alabama for this BCS fiasco? Most believe that the two best teams this year are LSU and Alabama…..you can’t ignore that? If Alabama doesn’t play LSU, what of the remaining teams are you going to “select”?
The BCS system is what it is. Live with it or change it. Better yet, put pressure on the college Presidents and demand a change. Quit complaining and live with it. The same people complain about the same thing year after year. Nothing changes, so live with it.

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Excellent point by Drganz

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RD – “Nothing changes, so live with it.”

Great advice right here. If history teaches us anything it’s that sitting idly by will guarantee results. Just look at every revolution to take hold – they would have happened infinitely faster if everyone had just sucked it up and lived with it!

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Spot on Mark, great point about Les moaning about having to win your conference, yet Bama fairs better for not having done so.

Other issue is if UGA loses (as predicted) then they get punished for the loss by going to the Outback Bowl and sending the Gamecocks to the higher paying Capitol One. (yet the Gamecocks lost at home to a LOUSY Auburn team)

Go Dawgs!

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The BCS is setting itself up for failure. If the BCS title game is a rematch of LSU-ALABAMA who in the nation besides the SEC faithful are going to watch that game. Three quarters of the country will be happily going about thier lives not caring about the BCS game.

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thanks Mark as always for the quick reply. I am calling it here… if UGA can pull the big upset ESPN WILL NOT allow 2 non-conf champs play for MNC. It will be LSU vs OK St

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nola dawg fan,

Or Bama vs Okie St

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It will be moot regardless.

It will be an exhibition of LSU dominance. The dogs will not be able to keep up with the SEC speed….or at least the Big 2 of the SEC West speed.

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good point Murphy… i just think on blogs, discussion boards ,talk radio, etc… there will be a rallying cry saying you can’t let 2 teams that didn’t win their conf play.

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Buckeye,

We all know you are an expert at watching the speed of the SEC!

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The only thing that’s going to change it is if people en masse stop supporting bowl games.

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Why does ESPN hate Georgia so much?

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Lsu also lost two games that year by i think 5 points and one was in ot. Uga had two losses one a 21 point blowout by tenn. Had they lost close that year, it probably would have been different so they have no room to complain. As for lsu, what other team deserves a chance? Everyone else has had a stink game. Do you put ok state with a bad loss to an unranked team ahead of lsu or bama? All this is solved with a plus one anyway but the idiots that run college football are just that..idiots.

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dawgs win 42-31

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Great blog Mark.

I could easily do away with all the conference champ games and have a 16 team playoff. Which, of coarse, would be great thing ever in sports.

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Mark is there any way possible to deliver this to the ESPN college game day crew email addy’s? I’ll do it if you can provide me with the addresses.

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Alabama has one lost in ot to the best team in the country. They have blown out everyone else. Ga lost two games that year, one being a blowout. Don’t even try to compare. And the conference thing…that’s the problem when you have the two best teams in the same division. Just because ga won the east doesn’t mean crap. The sec east is awful this year. Alabama deserves the rematch becsause they earned it with their record and play. Ok state had their chance and lost to a bad iowa st team. But if the morons running the ncaa had a clue, they would adopt at least a plus one game and 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3. And guess what. You’d still have a bama lsu rematch.

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If I was LSU I would be complaining. If Alabama wins the game, I think it should go to another game for the best two out of three.

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Wait a second. If ga wins, then it can’t be a rematch because I thought only two teams from the same conference could go to bcs games? Ga would go to the Sugar bowl. What am I missing?

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Mark – you forgot to talk about the other, even more screwed up scenario: LSU beats Ga, and plays Alabama for the “National Championship” in the BSC title game. And Alabama beats LSU. Then what? Or better yet, suppose Alabama wins 9 – 6 in OT? Personally, I think that if LSU beats Ga. and Alabama gets tapped for the tittle game, then they shouldn’t even play the game. LSU is the National Champ. Period. Because, besides all the other arguments anybody could make on LSU’s behalf, they would always have one more win than any other team!

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Ironic that play-off supporters are outraged by this situation, since if a play-off is ever implemented rematches and non-conference champions winning it all will happen much more than they ever would in the BCS.

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” Should Alabama get that nod just because it plays in the almighty SEC and is, you know, Alabama?”

If Okey State beats Okey then St. should play LSU.

Like ESPN said back in 2007, if you don’t win your conference you shouldn’t play for the title.

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Bama in no way deserves a shot at NC game. Period.

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How many National Champions in Basketball lost their conference tournament or did not win the regular season title? Why should winning your conference in Football be a requirement for a National Championship?

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The BCS will kill itself with a inbred SEC-SEC title game. 75% of the country won’t care and the TV ratings will drop like a rock. Once the BCS money starts sagging, the bowls will possibly start listening to people like Mark Cuban who could enact change.

You think it stinks? Get everybody in the southeast not in Alabama or Louisiana to change the channel. Only then, will change happen.

And thank you Mark for bringing up UGA in 2007…i know ala and lsu have better records this year…but it is still a farce.

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“start listening to people like Mark Cuban who could enact change.”

Yeah, cause the BCS wants angry people like Cuban running the show.

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“In 2007 Georgia was ranked No. 4″

And lost TWO games.

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Yeah, cause the BCS wants angry people like Cuban running the show.

That’s the point….Cuban would run the playoff system, not the BCS…the BCS would go away and Cuban would sell the bowls to join him

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It is hilarious to hear the “yeah buts” from the Bammers. LSU whipped your a$$. You didn’t win the conference? You didn’t even win the division. Oh, I know…yeah but.

Bammer deserves to be in the Outback or Chic-Fila. Nothing more…yeah but.

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If Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma they will get the nod.

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@the truth

RIGHT ON.

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Basically Yankees like Alabama…they are the preferred southern college football team for those transplants who love professional sports…which helps them win the BCS popularity contest.

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As I say every single year, the SEC Championship is my last game other than whatever bowl GA happens to land in.

Until we get a playoff system, that’s how it will stay. I refuse to watch the so called title game and don’t miss it one bit.

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Nom Nom Nom Chuck stole my thunder. Hey bammers. How many did LSU lose in 2007? The answer is 2 in case you forgot. How many did Georgia lose? The answer is 2. Who was teh hattest team by seasons end? The answer was Georgia who got screwed.

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‘Perhaps’ wrote “The only reason LSU, Bama and Arkansas are so highly ranked is because they were able to avoid playing UGA this year!”

Actually ‘Perhaps’, you have it backwards. The only reason UGA is so highly ranked is because they were able to avoid playing LSU, Bama, and Arkansas this year!

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It’s good that Notre Dame didn’t win 10 games or ESPN would have them in the MNC game.

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@2010 BCS CHAMPS

It is REALLY weird.

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My personal hope is that UGA beats LSU on Saturday and the BCS pulls the trigger on a LSU/ALA Mythical National Championship game. That’s when the BCS bullcrap will hit the fan!!!! All of the other conferences will then get on board with changing the system. I am not too hopeful for that, however, as the more likely scenario will be LSU beats UGA, then OSU beats OU, and then the voters across the country will do what it takes to get a matchup between LSU and OSU.

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Fire FG…

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“My personal hope is that UGA beats LSU”

You have a better chance of getting hired by Obama than UGA has with beating LSU.

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2010 BCS CHAMPS

November 28th, 2011
2:23 pm
“lying, cheating, stealing and stinking. Every fan and every player and every coach of that corrupt bunch…”

Huh?
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Auburn, you dunce…

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So what would be the solution if you could for this yeat, assuming LSU beats UGA and Oka State beats OU?

4 Team playoff? – LSU/Stanford & ALA/Oka State. What about VaTech?

8 Team playoff? – LSU/Ark v Stanford/VaTech – Ala/Boise v Oka State/Houston. Oregon and Nike might have something to say about that.

16 Team playoff? – The FCS round of 16 atarts this weekend. Doing that on top of the conference championships? That’s 17 games for the final two. No way.

Could go to the old way with no BCS. Rose – Wis/Ore, Fiesta – OkaSt/Ala, Sugar – LSU/Stanford, Orange -VaTech/WVa., then everyone lobby for votes on Jan 2/3.

Almost wants you to say ‘Go Dawgs’. Nah.

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BUCKET… interesting take… and I agree mostly, but I think the SEC/ESPN has too much pull for OSU to jump Bammy… (Unless, T Boone Pickens ponies up???) He could really make a mess of things if he starts throwing some huge cash around the place….

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The difference between the NCAA basketball champion and the NCAA football champion is the basketball champ is whoever is the hotest team at the end of the season and the football champion is the team that the voters ASSUME is the best team over an ENTIRE football season.

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I love how all the UGA haters are hoping for LSU to do to UGA what their teams couldn’t do this year!!!

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You all say the SEC east in down this year and comment on how strong the west is.. Well Georgia has already played three of the six west teams and busted all of them. Now they play a fourth.. They will fair well against LSU and now four of the six west teams including the defending National champs so get off that subject.

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ESPN is already annointing Ohio State as champs in 2014….you know it’s coming.

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I would think that not only a OK ST. backlash but Va Tech one as well. They are sitting at #5 and if they beat Clemson, especially if they beat them bad, would have an argument. If Ok. ST. and Va Tech are both sitting in the top 5 and both win their conference championships while Bama sits idle AND neither jump them it will be a HUGE crock of ****!!!

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“where you been lately???”

Working.

“Where is Malzhan going next???”

Walmart? Lunch? I haven’t checked his schedule today.

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“You’d be ashamed of your team if you had any sense”

Why?

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I actually had not considered T. Boone’s input, but that’s a great point BobDawg. He has the money and the national exposure to cause a BIG stink!!!

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phil, why are you so upset about Auburn? You should be more upset that UGA hasn’t won the NC in over 30 years.

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“National Champs are mythical, but SEC Championships are still won on the field.”

Huh?

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UGA can’t hold Bama’s jock, not now not ever. Does Bama deserve an opportunity that UGA did not have in 2007? Heck yeah, because Alabama is everything UGA longs to be but never has been and nnever will be. MB stop kissing UGA behind and deal with reality.

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Just think ga fans. If you didn’t choke against sc, then you would be ranked 3rd now and the game would be for a nat champ appearance. On the flip side, bama has every right to go. I guess when balt and pitt played in the afc champ game a few years back, that shouldn’t have happened because pitt won their division.

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2010 BCS CHAMPS

November 28th, 2011
2:32 pm
phil, why are you so upset about Auburn? You should be more upset that UGA hasn’t won the NC in over 30 years.
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As a matter of fact, I am.

But that doesn’t take away from Fraudburn’s overt theft of the title last year. I give you bums some credit though for apparently hiding the evidence, at least for now. Eventually, it’ll come out in the wash….

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“UGA can’t hold Bama’s jock, not now not ever.”

And what facts are you basing your ASSumption on?

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“And what facts are you basing your ASSumption on?”

Wins, defense…. You know, facts.

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loel
you are bragging about beating auburn miss st and miss? Please. Bama and lsu beat them both by a much larger combined margin than you. roll tide.

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If Dogs win I will be happy–with 3 teams in bcs everyone in the sec will get a fat check–look at the positive my brothers–plus we would kill Houston–beating LSU will not be so easy

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just think ga fans. if you hadn’t choked against sc, then you would be playing for a spot in the nat champ game.

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if only poor ga could have taken care of sc at home, they would be playing for the chance to beat us. roll tide.

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On the other hand, the Dawgs did beat the Dawg snot out of Auburn.

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@ SETH Just tell me who AL has played besides LSU and ARK?. I’m sick of hearing how they beat AU so badly, not to point elbows but UGA beat them worse than you. By my count AL has played two ranked teams and so has UGA!!!!!!!!! AL hadnt earned chit more than UGA as far as record and play as you say. Especially if UGA wins this weekend that makes them the best in the nation seeing as how no one else could beat LSU. We will see next year which is better. Go Dawgs!!!!

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The “experts” are giving Alabama so much credit for the whipping of Auburn. Why??? Georgia did to Auburn in one half what it took Alabama to do in an entire game.

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Kudos Mark, great article. I think there is a lot of mad Dawg fans now, ESPN made a big deal about UGA not going to championship game but now they are favoring a team that finished third in their conference.

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You’re kidding right dawg? We beat the #1 team and another team ranked as high as 3rd and you’re dismissing that? Aub is our rival game. And if you want to compare scores to like opponents, I would love to compare our score against tenn miss miss st fla vandy. Here’s a news flash. We beat those teams by more than 100 points than you did. Leave it to you to think you will beat lsu. 13 point underDOGS. Ha The only team that can beat them is us and we’ll get our shot.

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Meant we played. Not beat.

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WE’Z GONE WIND US DA SEC BABY!!!!! WE BEAT AUBURN BY 100 POINTS!!!!!!!
PHIL YOU ARE MA KIND OF DAWG FAN!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! UGA IS THE BESTEST EVER AND LSU IS GARBIGE!!!!!!

WE RUIN THIS STATE

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godawgs

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Phil the hater..lol

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“Phil the hater”

phil the retard.

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How do we know bama is better than okie st?

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Mark -
The best piece you have EVER written. And not because I am a DAWG fan… It is just so real how the voters follow whatever ESPN’s 4-6 EXPERTS want to say about who should be in the game and their reasoning and justification for their thoughts. Media runs the country in many respects…. Our current president is another example… Media ran our country …. right into the DIRT.

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Bear Bryant was definetly over rated as a coach.
Hey why are you posting under my name??????

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Bear Bryant was over rated as a coach…..YAVO!!

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Sounds like you have AU-burn……

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Great article. Finally someone in the media said it! The talking heads on ESPN won’t even bring it up for discussion. Any way you could bring this point up to them?

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Seth say what you want but the argument in 2007 wasn’t that Ga lost by 21 the argument was didn’t win the conference. How can anyone who said you had to win the conference then now say conference doesn’t matter. Only a hypocrite can. And we beat AL in 2007 so we must have been really good.

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Phil is on every blog..fire Joe, bill, tomm, billy, mark, etc. He even hates his mom and dad.. u never hear him say anything good are nice.

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Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State…No way they pass Bama or LSU in the BCS. The MNCG is pretty much set.

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Remember back in 2007, it was Les Myles the LSU coach that got the ball rolling that you should have to win your conference to be able to play in the BCS championship game. That is why UGA dropped from #4 to #5 in the last BCS poll, even though the #2 and #3 team lost. Why have a championship game if they don’t mean anything? We should never have a rematch and we should change the rules where only the top 10 in the BCS final standings make the BCS games or just go to a eight team playoff. Some of the BCS games this year are not even going to be interested to even watch. Rematches, and some teams not even in the top 10 will be matched up against each other! Not very entertaining.

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How many here would consider boycotting the BCS game?>

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Alabama & LSU will play for Championship..two beat teams..period.

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Great article. It’s worth mentioning that the two teams that best passed the “eye test” at season’s end in 2007 were UGA and USC, neither of which had a shot at making the BCS title game.

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ole richie, You got it dead on! Give it up Bama, you lost at home, so go away and pout, and get a F-ing kicker!

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Mark best article I ever read you wrote! I am right with you brother!

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Mark –
Good article topic for you. Given that a reason for not having a playoff is that it would make the regular season less meaningfull…

What would be the major headlines and news topics of this past two weeks the way the games actually played out; and upcomming weekend if the games were being played for a spot in the top 8?

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but since when has the BCS been about the two best teams

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I’ve been boycotting the silly title game for years now….

just don’t watch the stupid thing….

Fire Fred!

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The SEC Championship game COULD be more meaningful then ever – if UGA wins.

If LSU wins as expected, then the debate about an LSU vs. Alabama rematch will be a minor blemish on the system. There are merits on both sides of the rematch debate, but the argument that LSU and Alabama appear to be the two best teams in the country gives the system enough cover that an LSU vs. Alabama game isn’t likely to topple the system.

A Georgia win in the SEC Championship might be the beginning of the end of the current BCS system. A BCS Championship game played between a team that wasn’t good enough to win it’s own confrence and a team that wasn’t good enough to win it’s own division will be more than most of the country can accept. In that scenario, UGA can rightfully claim to be more deserving than Alabama or LSU based on the fact that they are the SEC Champions. Boise St. can claim to be more deserving than Georgia, Alabama, and LSU, since they beat the SEC Champs. Any other confrence champion can rightfully claim to be more deserving than LSU and Alabama teams that choked when it mattered most.

If Georgia beats LSU for the SEC Championship, the BCS is left with two choices: let Alabama and LSU play in the championship game, and by doing so, tell the rest of the teams in the country that their seasons don’t matter as much as expected TV revenue, or play a “championship” game with the two best teams sitting on the sidelines watching. Either way, it’s hard to imagine the current system surviving the backlash of such a spectacular failure. A victory for Georgia in the SEC Championship game might be a victory for everyone who wants to see a better alternative to the current system. Both are long shots, but you never know.

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Mark has always been a Dawg fan…

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Arguing whether or not UGA got screwed in 2007 badly misses the point. That’s not the issue. The issue is lack of consistency in a system that plays favorites and is enabled by a media outlet that lacks accountability.

UGA was leap-frogged in the BCS rankings by LSU in 2007 b/c LSU won the SEC and UGA did not. That was the sole argument against UGA and it was made crystal clear by ESPN and the poll voters. It was called the “common sense” rule. Fair enough.

Fast-forward to 2011 and the “common sense” rule no longer applies. Why? There are 2 1-loss teams in position to win their conferences. Why is Alabama getting special treatment? Why isn’t ESPN pointing his out?

This is the point.

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Norther S. — “Why can’t we just have an 8-team playoff (6 conf champs + 2 high ranked wildcards.”

I personally dont agree. Like the 8, but not for the auto 6 champs + 2. I would be for the top 8 ranked using the current BCS. Why would anyone not want to put the top 8 ranked teams on the field if the goal is to determine the best?

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@ Gbal

We posted the same thoughts at the same time – the simple reason is MONEY!

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We can cry all we wnat to but in 2007 we could not score a TD against SC and didnt even get off the bus in Knoxville until it was too late. Yes we finished strong but those 2 games hurt and one of them kept us from playing LSU in the dome.

Flash forward to this year and we were not ready for Boise and gave the game to SC. Take care of business against one of them and it might be a different tune now.

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Of course 2007 was the year of the whole team celebration penalty in Jacksonville. People with no sense of humor were really ticked about that one.

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Bama fans are stupid.

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Dawgs don’t have a prayer r hope chance against LSU..lol

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just go ahead and put your black jerseys on- that will obviously intimidate lsu, and it seems to have worked so well for you in the past….

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Hey phil and freddy you nerds need to get a room….fire your selves..

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@PJohn

The point is that you guys think that you can magically determine the motivation of every voter who casts a ballot for the BCS poll. Guess what? You’re wrong. Oh yeah, in 2007… You guys didn’t play for an NC because you had a lousy season. You scraped by Vandy and Kentucky. You lost to a South Carolina team that finished 6-6. You got beat down by Tennessee, and that’s why you didn’t get to play for the SEC Championship, much less the National Championship. Get over it.

If you want to win championships, then win your games. It’s really just that simple.

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I belive. We scraped by Kentucky but LSU lost to Kentucky that year.

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Refering to comment made Brian Harris at GSU The play off works for you all because ticket prices are with in reason. I mean you can follow Georgia Southern all the way to the N C Game and not spend what a ticket will cost at a major bowl. So tell who makes enough money that can afford to follow there team to NC game and pay the current ticket price for addiotional 4 games.

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LSU deserves to be in the BSC game, win or lose. They played the best schedule hands down. Even if they lose to UGA, I have no problem with them still playing in that game. If they win, then, Alabama also deserves to be in that game because their one loss is to an undefeated team. Now if LSU loses to UGA, then Alabama should drop because their “quality loss” is not as much anymore. I believe Alabama only beat one team currently ranked in the top 25. Arkansas being ranked that high is an absolute joke. They got smoked in both their games against LSU and Alabama. They beat South Carolina when they were short handed and not yet adjusted to life after Garcia and Lattimore. LSU loses, then they should play somebody other than Alabama.

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If it is LSU and Alabama and Alabama wins, is there is tie for the BCS since they are 1-1 against each other?

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So true……BCS is a complete joke!

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Why WDE because we don’t cater to your redneck dawgs..u the one that needs to get a life. I’m not a nerd if u thinking GT but we know you’re a tard.
As for Phil ..I don’t known the guy.

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Actually, I think the BCS is working. The two best teams are going to play each other for the national title. That’s what we want and that’s what we are going to get. Why is everybody so upset? Get over it. A playoff would totally render the regular season moot and also create “unfairness”. If Alabama beats LSU in the big game then they will be National champs. Live with it.

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WDE = Worst Defense Ever

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If you’re a BCS hater — and who isn’t? — you have to root for Georgia to beat LSU and render this ongoing farce even more farcical. Picture the incongruity: The Bulldogs hoist the SEC championship trophy on Saturday night and trot off to the Sugar Bowl to play this year’s version of Hawaii, and 24 hours later not one but two SEC non-champions get invited to the game that’s supposed to reveal the nation’s best team.

And now you’re asking: Don’t LSU and Alabama look like the nation’s top two teams? LSU has been the absolute best team from start to finish, but the Tigers still have a game to play. The Tide lost its biggest game on its home field and has beaten two teams ranked in the BCS Top 25. If Oklahoma State, which is ranked No. 3 to Alabama’s No. 2, beats Oklahoma on Saturday, the Cowboys will have beaten five Top 25 teams and will be the Big 12 champ. Should Alabama get that nod just because it plays in the almighty SEC and is, you know, Alabama?

Nail, meet hammer.

GO DAWGS!!

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A loss, is a loss………..when OK State wins their conference Alabama will is home and watch!
Ha, they BCS makes new rules every year that are pushed by ESPN. Everyone wants to see a rematch….who is everyone?

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Excellent points by Bradley.

Frankly, I’ll take an EARNED on the field championship anyday.

GATA DAWGS!!

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Who wins the ESPN national championship????

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Do you really think Oklahoma State is better than Alabama?

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Fleming,

Like BAMA this year, LSU wound up in the 2007 BCS championship game because everyone else lost. Folks are upset with BAMA and the BCS when they should be upset with Okie State and Stanford for losing so badly at the tail end of the season.

In 2007, UGA (despite selective memory) had two very bad losses so we’re not comparing apples to apples.

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We are not the darlings for ESPN, because our biggest game of the year is on CBS, then the AU game will not be moved to 8pm anymore, and nobody wants to watch us play GT at noon.
I guess every other year we can play USC at night and help ESPN make more money. And by the way, ESPN doesn’t have the SECCG either.

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PJohn

November 28th, 2011
3:53 pm

I believe:

No, that’s not the point. Try reading the column again.

This is not about UGA. It’s about the flawed BCS system and the inconsistent arguments used to support it. Alabama didn’t win it’s games and didn’t win it’s division, so why are they more deserving than a conference champion with the same number of loses? Can you answer that?

Yes. Even if Georgia should somehow manage to defeat LSU (highly unlikely), both LSU and Alabama would still have a better record for the season than Georgia. Perhaps you don’t realize that Georgia has lost two games this season? Georgia is not a Top 5 team.

Could they win the LSU game? Sure… Anything’s possible. If they do, it won’t change much. Alabama and LSU would still be the two best 2-loss teams in the nation. Who would have a better record?

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51NL we didn’t lose. Both had 2 losses we were ranked higher we didn’t go because coaches like Miles voted GA 25th in the final coaches poll to cause us to drop in the polls despite winning the last game and LSU to jump over us. You said it was because we lost 2 conference games. I was just pointing out so did LSU and one of the games was Kentucky. Someone else earlier said it was because we squeeked by Kentucky well LSU lost to Kentucky. No reason LSU should have moved above GA.

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Correction: Alabama and LSU would still be the two best 1-loss teams in the nation.

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@Skeezix

You’d just complain about the playoff system being unfair.

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Fred-D…nothing against Coach Richt. He is a great individual, Coach and role model. There are prayers on both sides and “Faith without works is lost….Maybe just maybe UGA is David?

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BCS said …A playoff would totally render the regular season moot.

Does the NCAA tourney render the regular season moot?
Does the NFL playoffs render the regular season moot?
Does the ML playoffs render the regular season moot?
Does the NBA Playoffs…..never mind.

Fans love college football and will always fill stadiums w/ or w/out playoffs to the same level.

Telling me that having 12-16 teams fighting for 8 playoff spots this past weekend will be less exciting and draw less viewers than the couple of meaningful games this weekend (nationally). I call BS. Only 2 games played this weekend with playoff implications. 6-8 would have had implications with an 8 team playoff. Would that sounding like a moot regular season?

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So if LSU loses to UGA on Saturday how can there be a national championship game between LSU and Bama? The BCS rules state that only two teams from the same conference can play in the BCS UGA will be an automatic qualifier, leaving only one other SEC team to play for a national championship. This is just another reason, why the BCS is the most ridiculous system ever created in the history of sports.

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We are not paying the right people. The group from BCS and ESPN are like a bunch of kids in the school yard playing games and when the game is not going their way they change the rules.

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Georgia starts out 0-2 and only the most faithful of us in Bulldog Nation were saying not to panic. It made sense that with all the newbies and departure of the “troubled” kids as well as boise st having nothing to do off season except prepare for the Bulldogs etc… the season could start off ugly. A mistake packed game against the cocks had the haters creaming their jorts. The Dawgs hunkered down and did no less than RUN THE TABLE for the remainder of the season. Of course each week the hate filled nothings worked themselves into a frenzy predicting this is the week the pups lose blah blah blah.

Here we are 10 straight wins later and now all the idiots are suddenly lsu fans with the mantra “The team that beat everyone else they played will beat Georgia ha ha ha y’all suck” Do I really need to point out how pathetic that makes all you little losers sound?

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Have your Mom read this article to you again. Yes, the argument was about being the conference winner, now it’s not a requirement.

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51ML, exactly what is the system? In 2007 the “system said don’t vote GA high because they didn’t win their conference so can’t win BCS. Coaches like Les Miles and others voted us 25 in the Coaches Poll, which is bull, so we would drop in the final BCS. So now the system says it’s OK if you don’t play in or win the conference. Just want someone to explain why it’s different.

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@Zach,

I think you’re reading from the Bowl Coalition rule book. Either that or you just made up a rule.

The rule states that a 3rd team from the same conference can play in a BCS game if the two non-conference champions play in the BCS championship game.

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@Zach

If Georgia wins the SECCG and Bama & LSU remain in the top two spots in the BCS poll, then Georgia will play in the Sugar Bowl. Three conference teams can play in the BCS bowls if all three teams are Automatic Qualifiers.

The BCS has never required participants to win conference titles in order to qualify. That is a red herring argument.

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Fleming,

The system is the sum of the whims of humans. Besides the Barn in 2004, none of us can complain about the system. As I previously stated, if you win (all of) your games, you don’t have to worry about the system or ESPN or any of that stuff.

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Bring on the heat, Mark. Bring on the Heat.

Dawgs: “Spontaneous human combustion” hot.
Tech: “Lukewarm”
Packers: “Burn an ant with a magnifying glass” hot.
Aaron Rodgers: “So hot even the Scoville Scale doesn’t go high enough” hot.

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mdga gtfan

I hope you are right about nobody watching but I doubt it. I am a dog fan all the way but am not upset we aren’t going ,we lost two games and our chance of a higher ranking than we have. I realize we wont be considered if we beat LSU. My gripe is LSU beat Al at home now they have to beat them again or is it going to be two out of three or 3 out of five. The networks control college football it stinks. People like Kirk Herbschiedt (sic) need to shut the hell up and quit trying to manipulate things beyond their capabilities

I bet if the ratingsare low enough the

really

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@PJohn

By your logic, Houston should be playing in the BCSCG.

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When is ESPN going to have their own feet held to the fire. A report came out today that ESPN was given an audio of someone speaking to the wife of Coach Fine, and ESPN did nothing with it, just like Patreno did nothing with it. ESPN needs to be held to the same standard they held Patreno to. Reply to that double standard Kirk Herbstreit.

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51ML. You are exactly right about the whims. All this article is stating is the hypocrites at ESPN saying something totally different this year. You can’t argue with the article because they are saying something different than 2007. That’s all it’s saying. How can you argue with the article? Just stating fact that they said one thing in 2007 now saying something different. Are you arguing that fact? You can’t. Cut and dry don’t care who is involved this year but in 2007 the media and Les Miles said one thing now they are saying something different.

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I would love for the dawgs to put a whipping on LSU say about 35-10. (OK i realize that is hardly likely but suspend your disbelief for a second). I would love to see the BCS squirm with that.

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Not really, since being in a mid-major conference has thus far been consistently used as a disqualifier to the BCS title.

Honestly, though, I’d prefer that to the system of favoritism that we have now. Suffer through a couple of Houston vs. Hawaii BCS title games and before you know it, we’ll finally have the play-off everyone want…or does everyone really want it?

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Well put, Bradley. The best solution for college football is a 12 team playoff system. The top 4 BCS teams get a bye and will host first round playoff winners at one of the four traditional “BCS” bowls. Every conference champion in the top 16 of the final BCS ranking makes the playoffs, and extra slots are selected from the highest ranked non-conference champions. (not that there will ever be more than 12 conference champions in the top 16 of the BCS standings, but if there were, the playoffs should be expanded to make extra room in those years. This ads motivation to win conferences, keeps BCS bowl special interests in the game, removes the biggest championship invite controversies, and prevents chump conference champs from securing automatic bids to the playoffs. In this scenario, highly successful small conference teams like Boise or Houston would have a shot if they won their conference and finished in the top 16.

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@AceDawg

Why not just arbitrarily assign the game to Houston and Boise State. That’ll get the result that you want.

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JJ,

This blog is for whining about UGA in 2007. You’ll need to go somewhere else to bitc and moan about Boise.

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The championship is already Bama-LSU unfortunately. LSU actually has a decent reason to lose on purpose if they wanted to. The SEC would get one extra team in the BCS and they would get more money as a result of it. Amazing that there are actually pros to losing their next game.

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We know the BCS is screwed up, but in this case, it will not matter. LSU will hang 50+ on the dogs. I will be surprised if UGA scores 10 points.

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Even if UGA beats LSU it has zero standing to claim a BCS Championship shot. They still lost two games. The only team getting jobbed is Houston. You can claim their schedule wasn’t tough enough all you want, nobody has proven they can beat them on the field.

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The BCS should match the 2 teams who’s fans think they are perpetually better than everyone else. Therefore the BCS Nat Champ game should be Notre Dame vs UGA.

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Mark, I see your point and it is a very good one. If Georgia were to beat L.S.U. next Saturday in Atlanta and win the SEC title, it would be insane to still automatically put L.S.U. and Alabama in the BCS title game. Granted, those are two outstanding teams, Georgia, as well as many other teams in the top ten, would definitely have a very good argument for the need for the BCS committee to install a playoff system to settle it. This is a problem every year. The system is totally unfair. Any team with two losses is autotmatically eliminated from the national championship game. They could have playoffs. College basketball does it, high school football does it, and so does the NFL. And it is only logical that a playoff system is the only way to get a true national champion. If L.S.U. loses to Georgia and still goes on to win the national title, Georgia would claim that they beat the number one team but what good did it do them. The system totally is unfair and it stinks!!!!

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this time Alabama could be handed a de facto semifinal bye.

Mark, it’s already happened. I mentioned it on another blog, but this afternoon on the ‘Heismanology’ segment of Palmer/Pollack, the guy said that Richardson has the edge “because he’s playing for the BCS title.” In other words, according to the powers that be, this is a foregone conclusion (not that we didn’t see it coming). For all the folks here complaining about Georgia fans “whining,” it isn’t about the two teams who will play for the title, but more about the lemmings who put them there. And that’s a legit complain. Get it over it.

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I have never heard so many whining Bulldogs in all my life! Your whole argument is dependent on both Ok St and Georgia winning this weekend. I doubt either of those will happen. And the two scenarios don’t compare. Georgia had two losses. Bama has one loss to the best team in the country in OT, and could have easily won the game. The BCS was setup to pit the two best teams in the NC game. Was the Georgia one of the two best teams in the country in that scenario? Is Ok St. one of the two best teams in the country this season? I don’t think so. Do you really think Ok St. could stay on the field with LSU or Bama? Alabama is the only team in the country who can stay on the field with LSU this season, that is why there will be a rematch and why Alabama deserves to be in the game.

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“I have never heard so many whining Bulldogs in all my life!”

They’ve been whining since 1980.

IT AINT FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR!!!!!!!

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Calhoundawg:

I think you mean last year instead of 2 years ago? Nevada beat BSU but Nevada was ranked 14th when that happened.

My point is that a 10-1 team playing against a 6-6 team in the Never-Heard-Of-It-Bowl on is wrong. Especially when you’ll have a UCONN type 6-5 team playing in the Orange Bowl every year.

For Boise specifically, take the same team and same schedule, put the team in California or Oregon or Washington and they’d be “respectable”. But in Idaho they’re the red headed step child. The reaction after the Week 1 a$$ kicking of UGA was almost universally “it was a fluke”. Just like last year after the Week 1 win over Va Tech.

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The difference between 07 and now is fairly obvious. Bama doesn’t have two losses. They also didn’t get blown out by an opponent. When you lose more than one, you lose the ability to state hey we are good. Lsu moved ahead of you because they won the sec but also because they didn’t get blown out by tennessee as you did. Not sure why the facts and logic are so void with some of you ga fans. And you know damn well that if you had just the boise loss, and you beat lsu, you would have no problem playing bama for the nat champ game. Of course boise would say they beat you and should go. I guess if you did beat lsu, then boise can say they are sec champs like you did to the acc in 09.

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If a 12-1 LSU and 11-1 Bama play for it, we know the fix is in. If a 13-0 LSU plays a 11-1 Bama again, we know the fix is in. This pre arranged title game. like a Old Country fixed marriage, should finally break the BCS mafia up. Another 11-1 team ought to play LSU.

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Steve,

No, Alabama does not deserve to be in the BCSCG. You failed to win all your games. You failed to win your conference. You failed to even win your division. There are other teams out there that may yet win their conferences and only have one loss. They deserve it more than you.

It’s called the common sense rule. Everyone else abides by those rules. Why shouldn’t you?

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Great article Mark. You covered all the bases. I am going to make a copy of this article and save it for my Grand Children. I am a die hard Ga fan and just hate to see Coach Richt and those coaches and players who have worked so hard to climb up that mountain get screwed again.
Whose to say Boise State would not have defeated both the teams who will hopefully not play for the national championship if the Dawgs prevail Saturday. Go Dogs. I hope you play way over your head Saturday and win by 12.

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Georgia deserves to be #1. After all you guys beat such powerhouses as NM State and Coastal Carolina. Oh and of course the team feared by all of college football Kentucky….which you beat by a whole 9 points. LOL.

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WAA WAA WAA…we should be #! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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@ Steve – actually the situation is exactly the same. UGA finished the season ranked #2 just like Alabama did this year. UGA was bypassed because they didn’t play for the SEC championship and LSU did and won the game. As an ardent Dawg supporter I still think that was the RIGHT decision in 2007. UGA didn’t win their conference so they shouldn’t have been allowed to compete for a mythical national championship. In the same way, Alabama should not be allowed to play for the mythical national championship this year because they will be watching the SEC championship game Saturday, just like UGA did in 2007!

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“It finished atop the SEC East but was shaded by Tennessee on a tiebreaker.”

Translation: Tennessee shaded Georgia by 3+ touchdowns earlier in the season.

This column is a direct ripoff of a column at ESPN.com. Why not just direct everybody there?

And when did SEC championships come to mean nothing? If the only games that matter are the ones that potentially impact the BCS championship probably 90% of college football games are meaningless.

We need a great system like the NCAA basketball 68 team tournament that last year produced a champion that went 9-9 in its own conference during the regular season.

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@Tidomonkey

Well said. If the BCS ran the NFL, the Super Bowl would be won by Green Bay, Chicago or San Francisco every year.

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DAWGS WIN! DAWGS WIN! Im just sayin! so, when the Dawgs win, LSU has one loss, Bama One LOSS, so if they do play for Natl Champ. And Bama wins..they should have to play another game because it would still be a tie of the those two teams..know whut I mean?

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“LSU beat Bama because their Field Goal Kicker was better. No touch downs. Should National Championships be decided by kickers? ”

This argument is ridiculous. Kicking is part of the game. You can’t just discount field goal misses as “not really counting”. A kicker missing an easy field goal is no different than a QB missing a receiver wide open in the end zone from 10 yards out. You can’t just pick and choose which parts of the game count and which parts don’t.

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Mark, this is your BEST article EVER…. !!!! It’s all about the money !!! Only the fans that pay the bills care about a playoff system which would decide a TRUE national champion ….. BCS is like a Beauty Contest run by ESPN….

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Hey all top teams play cupcakes…who did Alabama play off SEC schedule ?

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Thanks for blocking that last post d*ckh*ad!

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Furthermore, Steve…you talk about rules and totally ignore the fact that, by naming number one and number two, you’re begging the question as to how they got there in the first place? I’ve said a number of times over the last week that, by all outward appearances, Bama and LSU seem to be the two top teams. Operative words: outward, appearances, seem. By pointing that out, I’m not saying Georgia should be playing for the national title. I’m saying that the BCS is a horribly flawed system (ruse). You can substitute other teams. Poor AU…they were crying louder than anyone a few years back. So save it. The BCS blows.

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Good thing people and computers dont decide all sports, or the packers and cardinals would have been screwed.

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Just a thought…how would LSU fair with the pollsters if they lost by 21 to UGA? Perhaps Alabama would be shamed into playing Houston.

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Well Bradley, there goes your credibility with regard to college football. Even Stevie Wonder can see who the two best teams in college football are this year. The gap is astonishing.

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This is college football, where we’re told Every Game Counts. This year another big fat asterisk gets attached: Every game counts except the SEC championship.

Wow, I know it’s cute and all, but that kind of logic would be embarrassing for my sixth grader. Every game does count this year, including the SEC Championship. It’s just that, even including a possible loss in the SEC Championship, LSU would still be by far the best one-loss team in the country, and thus deserving of a spot in the BCS title game. It would have beaten three different teams ranked in the top 3 at the time of the game, and its only loss would have been to the champion of by far the toughest league. Nobody — not even Bradley, for all his b****ing — could say with a straight face that LSU didn’t have one of the top two resumes in the country.

So the SEC Championship does count — but so do all of the other games during the season, which LSU won and everybody else didn’t. As Bradley says, “This is college football, where we’re told Every Game Counts” — and this season does nothing to contradict that. It’s not LSU’s fault that they built up a commanding lead heading into the last game.

P.S. — If the World Series goes four games next year, I expect to read a Bradley column complaining that, “We’re told that Every Game Counts, and they didn’t even play the last three! What a joke this system is!”

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who is the BCS? How calls the shots?

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Wow, I know it’s cute and all, but that kind of logic would be embarrassing for my sixth grader.

Context is almost everything. In context of past arguments put forth by those who influence college football…

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Sugar Bear…you are the man! The Braves could still use your slick fielding and acute base running. If LSU wins, they deserve the BCS game; if not, the Sugar Bowl.

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As I’ve already said several times….

THE POWERS THAT BE WILL NEVER SIT IDLY BY THIS SATURDAY AND LET US WIN.

It’s not going to happen if the refs have to cheat on most every down to make sure of it.

LSU wins in a landslide regardless of what we do.

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And my sneaky power, don’t forget that. Chicks dig the long ball, four or five times a season at least.

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You can’t make coherent arguments to boneheads….

Boneheads are defined as fans of:

Fraudburn
Florida
Clemson
Tech
Tennessee
All schools in Mississippi
Alabama
Arkansas
LSU
South Carolina
Oklahoma
Miami
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan
VA Tech

There are others, but you get the picture…

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How long do we have to take this baloney? The powers that be in college football remind me of Congress. They give you explanations why what they do is correct while everybody with a grammar school education know that is is not.

I fear I am just loosing interest!

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Alan

November 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
Not sure anyone has figured this part out, but if Georgia wins I don’t think they can play in the Sugar Bowl if LSU and Alabama are in the Championship game, since SEC can only send two schools to BCS bowls.
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Read some of the earlier posts….I think a few have.

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Mark,

You make a slew of good points. I agree with them all.

I would only put a bit of lotion on the burn by mentioning that The Dawgs have 2 losses and that’s the big difference. If we’d not lost to SC The SECC Game would indeed be The BCS Game (no offense to Bama fans!).

Also, this opportunity which The Dawgs earned (much to my surprise and a weak schedule) gives us the chance to knockoff the team that may win the whole crown. I hope The Dawgs are the 1 in the LSU loss column for their record this season. It’s going to be exciting for Dawg Nation……..unless we get blown out then forget everything above!

Until some university finall sues The BCS or NCAA nothing will change.

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” Poor AU…they were crying louder than anyone a few years back.”

That’s because they went undefeated and won the SEC, moron. UGA fans cried louder last year over Cam and Nick.

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phil

What does that make you?

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Kelly

AU folks were upset because AU went undefeated, won the SEC and had the best defense in the country.

Now go iron my shirt.

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2010 BCS CHAMPS

November 28th, 2011
5:51 pm
phil

What does that make you?
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A heckuva sight more bright than you.

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If Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State, (and they will), and then if Clemson beats Virgina Tech, (they might), who do all of you people think should play LSU in the title game then, if not Alabama? Your answer is probablly anyone but Bama, which proves the point that it is personal with all of you who are against the rematch. The bottom line is the best two teams need to play each other for the championship, and all the experts/ voters/computers believe that to be the case.

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2010 BCS CHAMPS

November 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
Kelly

AU folks were upset because AU went undefeated, won the SEC and had the best defense in the country.

Now go iron my shirt.
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I rest my case on that bright part….what a dunderhead.

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I hope Larry Munson screams from the heavens for the dawgs to hunker down against LSU this weekend and in their bowl game. Gooo dawgs

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Talk to your buddy Jeff Schulz. He seems to think the Dawgs stand a chance. They have “NO CHANCE”! This will will be a scrimmage.

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2010 BCS CHAMPS

November 28th, 2011
5:53 pm
“A heckuva sight more bright than you.”

Then again, you didn’t even graduate nor attend UGA.
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1990 my boneheaded friend….

I’m confident that you DID attend Fraudburn, given the entrance requirement of having only two legs…

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“1990 my boneheaded friend…”

You should look into taking a Remedial English class at UGA.

“I’m confident that you DID attend Fraudburn, given the entrance requirement of having only two legs…”

For someone who claims to have graduated from UGA, you sure do a horrible job representing UGA.

Lie much, tard?

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I just dont have a whole lot of respect for the ranking system. should only have maybe a top 10. For heavens sake at week 7 they had my jackets ranked 12, i told my wife how is that even possibe? does anybody even watch these teams play?

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The BCS is trying to pick the best teams – who is playing the best AT THE END OF THE SEASON. UGA was the best team in 2007. Period. No debate about it.

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I think we are going to be stuck with the BCS until until congress, shudder, steps in and mucks things up. There is just no way the university presidents will go for a playoff or any kind. Look at the system now. The Big East is and AQ. What a joke. Seriously, I don’t see this thing changing unless the politicians get their collective briefs in a bunch. Then we will have the mother of all ____ storms.

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(I posted the message below on the Junkyard Blawg (Bill Krug) earlier today, but I think it a more appropriate comment for this column–DSDawg)

I have been a Bulldog supporter since the late 1960s. I am a UGA alumnus twice (’75, ‘94) and a season ticket holder since 1981. Even in the early years of my support, I was in favor of a play-off championship series and hoped to see one developed over time. Now as I approach my 60th birth date, I fear I will never see a Division I (FBS) play-off in my lifetime. All of this bull about the BCS, which I think is a total failure, would not only be unnecessary with a play-off system, but completely irrelevant. I have always, and still, believe that the national championship should be decided by the young men and coaches on the field and not through the opinions of sports journalists (with apologies to you Bill, I know that you and your colleagues are working with what you’ve been handed). After all, if they were right all of the time there would be no need to even play the games. They could just vote based on their team observations at the beginning of the season and award the national championship. There are a lot of smart folks out there and you can’t make me believe that a play-off system isn’t possible. After all, practically every other organized sport out there has one. No, it doesn’t happen because of big money, just as with anything else. It’s absurd that Division I (FBS) doesn’t have a play-off. It’s just not fair to all those fine young men and coaches who play the game, or to those of us who love to watch them.

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I’m a Bama fan but even moreso an SEC fan. I actually wish they would serve up a sacrificial lamb in OK State, OK, Oregon, Stanford or whomever to play LSU and prove how significantly more dominant the sec is relative to those teams and most all the rest of the country. LSU 42-7 over OK State AND Alabama 38-14 over Stanford or Oklahoma would be fine with me. Also, Bama would much rather be playing in the sec game rather than sitting at home, I assure you. As for Georgia, good luck. Even if they were to win vs LSU, they have no resume for the NC game.

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You are correct about espn, I am surprised more don’t write articles about the bias they show week to week. Even with uga playing in the secc game, you won’t hear them talk about uga but a couple times all week. In fact, my guess is they discuss the bama-lsu matchup more than the title game. Great article Bradley.

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@Andy…”If Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State, (and they will), and then if Clemson beats Virgina Tech, (they might), who do all of you people think should play LSU in the title game then, if not Alabama?”

First off LSU should have to win to get in…at the end of Sunday the top 2 conference champs should play. Otherwise the entire BSC is nothing but a fraud. It’s entire reason for existing is to “preserve” the regular season. What are you preserving if winning your conference does not mean something? How would they explain AL vs LSU…#3 SEC vs #2 SEC?

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wow, that’s ALMOST a compelling enough argument to get me to pull for georgia (almost)…

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Not only is the BCS going to do it. They are going to do it thumbing their noses up at the general public as they do

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add UGA to my list also.

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This is why college football is a joke. “Every game’s a playoff” and yet no one gets eliminated when they lose. Until they go to at least an eight team playoff it won’t be worth watching.

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Some of you need to check out the actual rules for bcs bowl games. A conference can have 3 teams in bcs bowls if two of those teams play for the bcs championship but neither of them won their conference championship.

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AU folks were upset because AU went undefeated, won the SEC and had the best defense in the country.

Whine, whine, whine…sounds like more AU whining to me.

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It’s all about the money in the BOWL games folks nothing else. What is it something like 8-10 million for each team in BCS bowls and minimum of 3-4 million for the lesser games? There’s 35 bowl games this year and there will probably be 1-2 more next year. That means some teams with 5 wins are going to go to a bowl game somewhere. I got it since the NFL is talking about 2 or possibly having 3 games in U.K. why don’t we start playing a bowl game in U.K.?

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2010 BCS Champs say: Two legs baaaaad, four legs gooooood.

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All you sad little nothings that hate Georgia revel in your comments about how badly lsu will beat Georgia. The mighty University of Georgia ripped off an astounding 10 game winning streak after an 0-2 start that all you bitter losers swore would get CMR fired and destroy Georgia season and set the program back. Instead Georgia is playing for the Championship of the best Conference in college football. The Dawgs are loaded with young talent and are a lock for the highest rated running back for 2012 and already have a commit from the highest rated running back for 2013!

As we in Dawg Nation bask in the glory glory of an incredible season and look forward to the wealth of young talent that will only get better, it’s hard to be too upset at the possibility of losing to a team that has beaten everyone else they played this year.

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Flat Tire

Yeah I knew we shouldn’t have scheduled GT. Such a win only weakens our strength of schedule

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If UGA could beat the crap out of LSU then the Tigers might drop significantly.

Yeah, ‘07 was some BS but look at the SEC West, what do you really expect of them? If anybody can find a bigger group of douchebag coaches in the world, I’ll buy you dinner.

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Check yourself Bama fan. Yes, you are a good team, but before you go boasting about your schedule, and slamming UGA as having a ‘weak’ schedule, keep in mind there are 6 common opponents, and UGA went 6-0 against them just as you did, including beating your in-state rival by a wider margin. You had ONE quality win against Arkansas. You are being artificially kept at #2 because of media love for Saban. Deal with it.

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Playing Div II GT made our schedule really week.

AU made it even worse.

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“Whine, whine, whine…sounds like more AU whining to me.”

Nope, AU won the NC last year, ma’am. I was just stating a few facts about the 04 season. Funny how you don’t want to mention USC cheating and getting punished.

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“you have AU people taking a break from their normal pursuits of bestiality”

Kelly loves blowing goats.

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When they don’t gets things their way.Keep crying mutts, enjoy the beat down from LSU.

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Maybe UGA can hire the Zooker

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GT is one of our better wins, you guys are stupid to suggest otherwise.

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when things don’t their way. keep crying losers.

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Funny how you don’t want to mention USC cheating and getting punished.

That’s just more whining from AU, who, up until they had the laptop thief last year, hadn’t won a NC in over 50 years! By the way, you need to come up w/ your own jokes.

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If GA beats LSU, what happened to the BCS rule about not allowing 3 teams from the same conference into the BCS games? GA would be the automatic berth but can LSU, AL and GA all go?

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AR, I know. You remember when Florida had that weaturn of the schedule against those Mississippi teams, and when they beat….wait.

Oops.

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I’m with you GeorgiaBoner. Couldn’t give damn about the SEC.

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I’ve been being sarcastic AR. I’ll take a weak SEC schedule over other conference schedules. For instance, beating the glue out of AU this year worse than Bama did. That was pretty sweet.

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Of course not. But those rules that say that the schedule rotates, that’s all UGA’s fault, riiiight? Whatever.

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AR: All I can say is that it must thoroughly suck to lose to such a shabby program like UGA.

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Phil: Highly doubtful. Both of those teams are fantastic. Their fans, on the other hand…

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Phil

Depends on when they are on the schedule. Unlikely we would have as we would have probably played them early and suffered defeat. Playing them now? Maybe not so much

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This year being the exception but Bama always has Arkansas early. Arkansas like Georgia often improves as the year progresses. Then they get LSU late in the season and gives LSU fits (usually) not so much this year.

Bama is a thorn in the side of AR and AR is one usually to LSU. Timing is everything for some teams.

If we played Boise now, likely a 2 TD Georgia win

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“up until they had the laptop thief last year, hadn’t won a NC in over 50 years!”

Poor whittle baby. So upset that her dawgies haven’t won squat since Reagan was in office. Hey, maybe you can buy Crowell a Trans Am like Herschel got when he played for UGA back in 80.

BTW, AU has a crystal trophy. What does UGA have? Bail money.

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“I’ll take a weak SEC schedule over other conference schedules.”

Well, that’s the ONLY way UGA makes it to the dome. That and UF having a down year.

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“if someone hit you with a blunt object it would be redundant.”

Nice comeback, Gump.

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2010 BCS CHUMPS – 45-7, Deal with it.

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“45-7, Deal with it.”

I did.

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2010, when you get finished with your grad level “Famous Practitioners Of Bestiality: A Practical Guide For Auburn Fans,” maybe you’ll make more sense typing with two hands as opposed to that one you’re using right now. 45-7. Doesn’t sound like you’ve gotten over that much to me. Whatsa’ matter baby pig lover, can’t stand being shown up by a girl?

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That sounds about how I have it, AR. A few weeks back I thought UGA might be lucky to keep it close for a half. I think they can stay in longer, but you’re right, LSU is very deep and stay fresh. If UGA is tuned up and psyched the way they were against a flailing, inferior AU team, they should hang around for 3 quarters. Upset not likely, but always possible.

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all of you people who are saying it should be this and it should be that are forgetting one thing…. the BCS has rules and regulations and that is that. the system is not designed to give the public the game that the public wants to see. it is designed to match up the two top ranked teams based on a combination of human and computer rankings. being a conference champion has nothing to fo with anything besides where the team is ranked that you beat or lise to in the conference championship game. also, there is no rule in the BCS system that says you can not have three teams from the same conference in BCS games.

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Right…and use their aggression against them.

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On your last sentence AR – That’s where Richt has been so suspect in years past. Preparing his teams for the big games.

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Kelly

It is certainly the type games and scenarios where upsets do take place. I think if anything LSU is already looking past us a bit. They pretty well know they are in the NCG. The Dawgs could catch them napping

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Phil,

I agree with ARDawg, it would depend on when in the season they were scheduled. UGA gets their shot at LSU this weekend so we will see how good we are. I do think that UGA would have treated Ark the same way Bama did this past weekend, they are just not that good.

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Kelly

Oh gawd ain’t it the truth. Many years back Richt met the challenge in big games. I hope he has it in him but it’s been suspect for a long time now. He definitely “can”, if he will is to be determined

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ARdawg,

LSU does wear you down. See WV game earlier this yr – close for 3 quarters and then LSU KO return for TD, LSU D forces TO and game over.

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Best cloumn you have ever written.

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Let’s see… UGA gets bashed for a weak schedule, but Bama gets a pass on theirs. With SIX common opponents between UGA and Bama, both went 6-0, with the Dawgs beating Bama’s in-state rival by a wider margin. Bama had ONE quality win over Ark. and beat a mediocre State Penn.

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Dunno, PSU was having a good year until the teen-rape stories hit the presses.

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My point is everyone likes to put Bama right there with LSU, who has legit strength of schedule. I’m not saying Bama is not a good team, but they don’t get the same schedule scrutiny as UGA. And look at who Penn State has beaten – nothing to boast about.

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Coffee Bulff

They do wear you down. Thats were depth wins games. Not only that, they are just so much more physical than your run of the mill team. Bama is a mirror image. The thing is, those teams can be beaten. They aren’t invincible. I see a weakness and WV exposed it as did Arkansas for the first half. A quick release QB can eat their lunch in the secondary and pick them apart also if he isn’t afraid to run it he will keep them on their heels

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Got no prob with LSU in the champ. game. Bama on the other hand – didn’t win west or SEC, but sits at 2. You could make a strong argument for the other 1 loss teams, and if Okl. State beats Ok, look the hell out – they should jump to 2nd. So no I don’t agree we’re getting the 2 best teams.

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JDawg: I don’t have any problem with a rematch as long as its a warranted one, which, in this case, I think it [probably] is. It’s just the inconsistency that’s really irritating from the coaches, the media (ESPN, namely) and the fans who are happy about it as long as their team gets in. Rematches happen all the time in all sports. That’s not a big deal.

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Coffee Bulff

They do wear you down. That’s were depth wins games. Not only that, they are just so much more physical than your run of the mill team. Bama is a mirror image. The thing is, those teams can be beaten. They aren’t invincible. I see a weakness and WV exposed it as did Arkansas for the first half. A quick release QB can eat their lunch in the secondary and pick them apart also if he isn’t afraid to run it he will keep them on their heels. LSU’s pass defense is up front. Work around that and they are susceptible

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Mark,
Great article. I could not agree with you more!

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I wonder how Bama will feel if they are jumped over by another team. Personally, I think Bama probably is as good as any team in the country, but LSU has already beat them, so it’s idiotic to play that game again. Unless you mandate that Bama has to beat LSU twice,it serves no purpose to have a re-match. It’s not fair to LSU, and it’s not fair to the millions of fans that want to see a match-up of two new teams. I didn’t like it when they wanted to pair Ohio State and Michigan again, and don’t like it now. It’s like saying the two best teams in pro football are in the AFC, so let’s just leave the NFC out of the Super Bowl. How many times have we seen a match-up that appeared to be one-sided go the other way. Case in point, Utah over Alabama.

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WHY is it that college football is the ONLY sport that doesn’t have a playoff system?! The BCS has been BS since it’s inception…let the best teams win it on the field! NOT in a computer system!

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Just love people trying to draw a parallel to the NCAA basketball finals where 2 teams from the same conference can wind up in the finals in a rematch.

This is true precisely because the NCAA tournament is a PLAYOFF!!! Nobody argues about playoff results. The team that wins advances. Pretty simple!

If ESPN ran MLB, they would have voted the Phillies into the World series after losing to the Cardinals because they were the best team on paper. Same with the Yankees. They would manipulate the system to get the highest rated series.

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If the 2007 logic applied to 2011, then UA will fall to at least #3 simply by virtue of them not playing (and winning) the extra conference title game. Similarly, any one-loss team that wins their conference title could jump AT LEAST 5 spots to land in the MNC.

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BAMA should not get to play in the national championship game.

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WOULD ONE OF YOU HATERS EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IF YOU PLAY A SEC TEAM IN THE REGULAR SEASON & THEN HAVE TO PLAY THEM AGAIN IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME(WHITHER THEY WIN OR LOSE THE FIRST GAME)………….HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT??!! YOU STILL PLAY TWICE & IF LSU & BAMA ARE THE TWO BEST THEN…………..WTF!!? I EAGERLY AWAIT YOUR LOGIC ON THIS!!!

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“Perhaps” are you kidding me? You think LSU, Alabama, Arkansas are only ranked as high as they are because they didn’t play the dogs? Give me a break. You mutts played the weakest schedule in the SEC and are only in the championship game because YOU didn’t play LSU, Alabama or Arkansas. You lost the only two tough games on your entire schedule, barely beat a below average Vandy team and barely beat a very bad Gator team, you think you have a chance against LSU? Mark it down though….you’re about to face your biggest nightmare come Saturday night!

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KG Nonsense: Who says they are the 2 best teams??? Voters??

The 2 best teams are whoever we say they are!! Got that??

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I’m certainly no BCS defender but with the system we have if you are in one of the power conferences you have to look at wins and losses. If two teams have the same number of wins and one loss then you look at who beat them. OSU beats Iowa St. and they’re in. It’s that simple. What one loss team has a better argument than Bama for who beat them?

I’m a dawg fan and I want nothing more than to beat LSU and win the SEC but we still will have lost two games to their one so we don’t get a shot at the national title. Win games = play for championships.

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I don’t have a problem with a rematch if it’s the best 2 teams, but you have to make a helluva argument if one of them didn’t win conference (possibly 2 teams in this case). And therein is MY problem – making an argument to get in. Too subjective. There are a handful of other teams not named LSU that could “make an argument.” And I don’t HATE any teams so stop with that. I am FOR the Dawgs.

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The BCS resembles both pro wrestling . Rules are changed, winners for the championship are “selected” ahead of time, and the most popular gets picked. Fans can only blame themselves. I guarantee that if people would quit watching until they change the process, it would change quickly. Way too much tv money involved to let viewership go down. As usual however, we will continue to watch and play our part in the absurdity that happens every year at this time. The beat really does go on.

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but you have to make a helluva argument if one of them didn’t win conference Agreed…and there’s the problem. According to Saban and Miles, it’s an impossibility. In years past, that is. It’s pretty clear: the BCS blows.

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J-Dawg, you totally missed the point dude.

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Nice comeback, Gump.

I suppose you own that one, being so, like, familiar with comebacks, seeing as how you’re wiping it off yours when it’s time to dung the stall. C’mon 2010, you give animal husbandry a bad name. Sexy.

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Sorry, I’m just not sold on Bama at all. LSU, however, has a solid resume and are generally outstanding.

I still don’t get how Bama dropped only one spot when they lost at home, OT or not.

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If the SEC is so good as ESPN/LSU/BAMA says, then why not play some other top teams and prove it instead of a behind the door deal and play yourselfs again… Corruption/NCAA/BCS come to mind.

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Could not have said it better myself, no way Okie state should be left out if they win their conference. Alabama should not play in the NC game in any circumstance. Only conference champs should apply….

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