Sometimes Tech folks feel overshadowed. (AJC photo by Johnny Crawford)
In years past our annual look at Georgia fans vis-a-vis Georgia Tech has been offered in the spirit of good clean fun. This year, for the sake of novelty (and also because even I’ve wearied of Willie Martinez), the idea will be to help these two neighboring-but-different groups actually understand one another.
And then we’ll all join hands and raise our voices in a spirited rendition of “I’d Like To Teach the World to Sing” and toast one another with Coca-Cola products, and by the way: Did you know Georgia fans refer to Bobby Dodd Stadium as “The Joke By Coke”?
But enough! No more gags from me this year! Instead I offer the observations gained from dwelling among Tech and Georgia folks these past 27 years, eight months and 18 days.
• Tech fans care just as much about football as Georgia fans. This may come as a surprise to those Bulldogs backers who are forever mocking the attendance at Bobby Dodd Stadium. (For the Jackets’ mammoth Thursday night clash against No. 10 Virginia Tech, attendance was announced at 50,140 in a facility that seats 55,000.) But counting heads isn’t necessarily a measure of passion.
Tech’s enrollment is roughly 20,000 — Georgia’s is 35,000, by the way — and a goodly percentage of those students will take their degrees and move elsewhere. (This isn’t to say that no Georgia grad ever moves out of state. Even Lewis Grizzard moved to Chicago for a few months.) But studies have shown that there are more Auburn grads living in metro Atlanta than Tech alums.
Numbers-wise, Georgia is always going to win. That doesn’t mean Tech folks don’t care. They do. Just ask any alum what he/she thinks of a Tech uniform that doesn’t feature the color gold. Or get one going on Bill Lewis’ 2 1/2-year reign of error.
• Just as Tech fans hate being hit over the head with attendance figures, Georgia fans hate hearing about Jan Kemp. When John Davis was a Tech lineman back in the ’80s, he told me this joke: “How do you get a degree from Georgia? Drive by campus and roll down the window.” And there was a time, let’s stipulate, when UGA wasn’t exactly a school of renown, and the Jan Kemp trial only underscored the notion.
But that was then, and under presidents Charles Knapp and Michael Adams the University of Georgia has become a place of pride and achievement. No, calculus isn’t a requirement for every UGA undergrad, but the academic missions of the schools are rather different. Georgia is a broad-based state university; Tech is, duh, a technical institute. Not everyone wants to be an engineer. Just because your diploma is from UGA doesn’t make you a comparative moron.
Not that Tech folks are eager to concede the point. On his Tuesday night radio show, Tech coach Paul Johnson took a call from someone who began barking. Said Johnson: “He just got off from Walmart.” (FYI, the CEO of Walmart is Tech grad Michael Duke.)
• When Tech fans speak of football tradition, they think first of Bobby Dodd. He was everything a Tech fan wanted in a coach. He was smart and his teams played precise football and he won a lot of games and he, not incidentally, beat Georgia eight times running. But that was in the ’50s, and those were different times: College football wasn’t yet a billion-dollar industry driven by TV and recruiting wasn’t a cutthroat nationwide competition.
Reasonable Tech fans — and Tech fans, by and large, tend to be reasonable — cannot envision their team ever again beating Georgia eight times in a row. (Since 1977, Tech has beaten Georgia eight times total.) In their heart of hearts, Tech fans would be satisfied with winning one of every three against their bitter rival. Not coincidentally, Johnson is 1-2 against Georgia.
• When Georgia fans speak of tradition, they think first of Herschel Walker. Yes, the Bulldogs were winning SEC and even national championships and turning out famous players (Sinkwich, Trippi, Tarkenton) long before landing the kid from Wrightsville on Easter 1980, but the Era of Herschel propelled Georgia from the ranks of perennial Southern power to something bigger. By every measure, those were the three greatest years in Bulldogs history.
That said, those three seasons skewed some Georgia fans’ view of their program. Two decades would pass before Georgia won another SEC title. Mark Richt has taken two conference titles and three division championships and his teams have finished in the top 10 five times, but Georgia hasn’t played for a national crown since 1982, and five different SEC schools have finished No. 1 over the past 13 years. UGA fans are still waiting their turn, same as they await the Next Herschel.
• Georgia is Tech’s biggest game of every year. Chan Gailey got fired not because he had losing seasons — he didn’t, not a one — but because he was 0-6 against the Bulldogs. And it’s undeniable that the words “To Hell with Georgia” are sung the loudest whenever “Ramblin’ Wreck” is played.
• Tech is Georgia’s biggest game only when Georgia fans are scared they might lose. This isn’t such a year. Georgia has won its division and is going to play LSU or Alabama for the SEC title next week. Georgia has, to borrow another Johnson line, bigger fish to fry. Which is the primary reason Georgia fans should be wary of Johnson and his team.
By Mark Bradley
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fred
November 25th, 2011
1:45 pm
Sam, stick it…you are getting old.
Josh
November 25th, 2011
1:49 pm
Let’s Go Tech!
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Russ' Chew Toy
November 25th, 2011
1:54 pm
For any true University of Georgia fan, (whose official school name by the way is THE University of Georgia (emphasis on THE)); the Yellow Jackets are the most perfect mascot possible for Georgia Tech for the following reasons, as the life-cycle between the genuine insects of nature and their socially-inept human imposters mimic each other to a staggeringly near perfect degree :
1) in the warm days of August and September, they are almost always completely unseen, unmentioned, and absent from anyone’s realm of conscious thought. You might occasionally spot a lone one in your travels, but you feel no threat and look upon them as the oddity they are.
2) as the Fall season progresses, you become more aware of them, now most often seen in pairs or trios as they busily flit around with a self-created air of importance and purpose for which, try as you might, you can’t find an objective basis.
3) Come early to mid-November, they now appear in masses, now always angry and belligerent for no apparent reason, and even over-eager to do their best to attempt to threaten and intimidate you. All the while, you look upon their puniness, and simultaneously marvel at the absurdity of their unjustified bravado, and contemplate upon the relative ease with which they can be crushed.
4) This fevered pitch of boorish behavior demonstrated by their feeble attempts at intimidation usually reaches it’s zenith on one date in late November each year, when in a single night after the numbers plummet on the thermometer in the natural world; and the numbers soar on the UGA side of the scoreboard — in that single, solitary night, the entire colony of yellow jackets is decimated and left in total annihilation, with not a single surviving bee, and the colony remains an unpopulated wasteland until the following spring when the cycle repeats itself all over again.
Whoever it was that chose Yellow Jacket as the representative for the full-of-fury-signifying-nothing bunch of whiners on North Avenue was an absolute genius. And if he/she came from Tech, he/she was the first and last.
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November 25th, 2011
3:19 pm
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Sam Walton
November 25th, 2011
4:01 pm
Both of these teams belong on the discount aisle.
Techster
November 25th, 2011
4:05 pm
I just hope it’s a nice clean and safe contest and everyone has loads of fun.
Rocky's Daddy
November 25th, 2011
6:19 pm
Mark Bradley wrote a decent piece. There should be peace between the fans. However, in pointing out the differences in school populations, Mark failed to track where the fan base for each school comes from. Most fans are not alums. I’m a TECH fan from having lived close to the campus, but I earned no degree from TECH (GA.STATE instead). I brought my son up to be a TECH fan and go there and earn a degree. Most DAWG fans don’t teach their children to study at Georgia, they just teach their children to bark. OR if I should be a kinder, gentler TECH fan, they teach them to feed off the winning.
We TECH fans know Dawg fans out number us. Only winning will shift the tide over generations.
AFDawg
November 25th, 2011
7:40 pm
Sandy, You’re an idiot — for every engineer major playing football at Tech I’ll show you a pre-med major at Georgia. College football players pursuing the “hard” degrees is alawys the exception to the rule — across the entire country. Are you really that stupid to think just because they play football at Tech they are an engineering major? The entire reason Tech started their Industrial Management degree was so they could recruit better. Tech has a lot of non-engineering majors.
AFDawg
November 25th, 2011
7:52 pm
MB, There is only one scoop regarding the Tech – UGA series, Georgia has dominated it, plain and simple. Tech gets the occassional win — but that’s about it.
DILLIGAF
November 25th, 2011
8:09 pm
Sam,
Are you this kids agent or a family member because you are pushing this kid’s video on these blogs 24/7?
Retired Soldier Dawg
November 25th, 2011
9:46 pm
Tech can only hope that the Dawgs are looking ahead to LSU. But even a distracted Dawg team is enough to beat sorry Tech. Go Dawgs swat the annoying bees!!
DGator
November 25th, 2011
9:57 pm
GA is not that good, I don’t understand how they can possibly think they are good, they have beaten absolutely nobody worth a flip and lost to the decent teams they played. Dawgs will struggle with Tech and their High School gimmick offense but again, beating Tech should not be anything to brag about this year.
Thomas Brown
November 26th, 2011
6:11 am
Georgia tek fans – both of them – actually feel that Georgia tek’s # 35 ranking in US News & World Report as a national university translates to their student-athletes. Nothing is further from the truth. They are out to do anything and everything to beat UGA in sports, and cannot. They don’t care – neither of them.
Auburn has more graduates in City of 6 million than Georgia tek. Then, WHY do you CODDLE Georgia tek, AJ-C ?
Thomas Brown
November 26th, 2011
6:38 am
In fact, there are over 2 million with degrees from college who live in metro Atlanta. Georgia tek does not even rank among them. UGA dominates the readership of the AJ-C, yet daily, Mark Bradley specifically and by name CODDLES Georgia tek. It is absolutely contrary to the long-term viability of the AJ-C as a newspaper.
Harvey D. Pooka
November 26th, 2011
7:59 am
Bobby Dodd.
Enough said. (no, we aren’t living in the past but we sure as hell ain’t letting it be forgotten either.)
Sam Walton
November 26th, 2011
8:24 am
Meh…
Bobby Dodd was Bear Bryant’s female canine companion. Vince Dooley was a consolation prize for losing Pat Dye to Auburn.
King Gator
November 26th, 2011
8:39 am
He called your team a bunch of “Wal-Mart shoppers”, there’s got to be some payback for that today. Hoping for a good game, cheering for the SEC (not so much Georgia), but hey it’s win win.. if Tech wins that means Georgia loses; never difficult to get behind that idea. I predict Georgia wins by 17 going away today. Go Gators!
Sam Walton
November 26th, 2011
8:56 am
Q: What percentage of the Georgia population has never shopped at Walmart?
A: The same percentage who’s favorite college football team has won a National Championship in the past 20 years.
Dawg Fan
November 26th, 2011
12:57 pm
“GIVE ME A BREAK
November 23rd, 2011
12:09 pm
The SEC East champion only scored 19 points on a weak Kentucky team. Tech is waiting for you. ” LET’S ROLL JACKETS “”
UGA only needed to win the game to make it to the championship game. Why pile up the score when all you need is to have 1 more point than your opponent?
Dawg Fan
November 26th, 2011
1:10 pm
“Tech Tony
November 25th, 2011
8:08 am
Why is UGA’s school color red?
No one on campus can spell crimson or scarlet.”
Why is Tech’s color yellow? Because it’s easier to explain all the bruises.
mark bradley is the joke
November 28th, 2011
10:35 pm
I assure you MB before it is all said and done, you will be the one who is the joke by the coke..