The SEC West tiebreakers: Hold your breath and count to five

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Let’s just have an 8 team playoff and be done with it.

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It could turn into one big fuster cluck if Arkansas beats LSU and OK beats OK State.

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I really hope that OU beats OSU and Ark beats LSU. Watching the chaos will be fun, especially with an unbeaten Houston in the mix.

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Even with one loss lsu’s body of work is better than bama’s

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But I digress because uga will win the seccg and throw a fly into ointment.

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Mark,
Isn’t it odd that after 15 years the Sandusky indictment occurred the week after Paterno got his all-time wins record? The cops were in on it too.

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Unfair to have to play a team you have already beaten for a title? Happens all the time in Basketball and Pro Football.

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sansho – So think back to 2007. UGA was playing arguably the best football in the country at the end of the year. They hadn’t lost since early October, and yet they were told that, by virtue of not winning the SEC, they could not play in the BCS Title Game. It’s a really easy argument to say that UGA’s body of work was impressive enough to get them in. But LSU jumped the Dawgs and both UGA and LSU went to BCS games (Sugar and National Championship, respectively) and dismantled their opponents. I’d like to know why it was okay to leave UGA out in 2007, but in 2011 it’s okay to talk about LSU-Alabama rematching, or ‘Bama making it to the Title Game without winning the conference. I think it all comes down to four letters: E S P N

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Bo Duke. You mad bro?

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Nice read, Jeff. Could get interesting.

I’m just waiting for the inevitable GTBoob or Still@theFoolsBar to tell us again that “UGA WILL GET DESTROYED IN THE SECCG!!”

And then, if we should happen to upset somebody in that game, they will immediately proclaim that “UGA WILL GET DESTROYED BY TEAM_____________(fill in the black) IN THE SUGAR BOWL!!”

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Would it not be totally ironic if a two loss UGA were to beat the 1-loss West champ…. thus leaveing the other two West “wannabes” in the best position to be invited play for the NC.

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Since this has come up every few years in the BCS’ existence, I’m surprised they haven’t put in a requirement of being a conference champion. We’re always told of some mythological, unwritten rule that participants in the big game must be conference champions. (As you pointed out, in 2007 Georgia got burned). But no such official rule has ever been made. Why?

I think Georgia has a pretty good chance of knocking off LSU or Alabama in the SEC Championship. This will only benefit which ever one doesn’t make it. So, the team that doesn’t even win it’s division is likely headed to the BCS Championship, and Georgia’s reward for winning “the toughest conference” in the world would be a Sugar Bowl date with freaking Houston.

All because one team’s pre-season rankings were higher, college football is definitely not fair.

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Mark, glad you brought up the ESPN rule of ” a team that doesn’t win its conference doesn’t deserve to play for the BCS title”. Who in the Bulldog nation thinks that unwritten rule will apply now?……. I hear crickets!!!

I hope LSU takes care of business. Nothing against Arkansas, I just don’t wan’t to see Alabama get in on a voter wave of over inflated value. Alabama has a great defense, but team quality falls off quickly after that, not to mention that Nick Saban is vastly overrated as a coach.

Alabama had their chance and Saban blew it!!! Time to move on.

It’s great to be a UGA bulldog!!!

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Mark,

One thing: you’re wrong about the Texas/OU scenario. Texas and Oklahoma were in a three way tie, not a two way.

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The reason Georgia didn’t get to play in the big game in 2007 was because you were DESTROYED by Tennessee…..stomped…..while Alabama lost to the Number One team in overtime. Yall just kill me with your revisionist history.

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“I get paid not to root.”
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Well said, MB.

But the team you used to root for looked mighty good last night vs Kansas, huh?

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Bradley – Keep waiting for you to say something positive about Georgia’s performance against Auburn saturday. Imagine that!!

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Well, Mark, the team you used to root for, back before you started getting paid not to root, looked really good last night vs Kansas, didn’t they?

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waa waa waa !! cry me a river !! Get over it already !! Roll Tide Roll !!

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Alabama didn’t play in the 2007 BCS, so I fail to see your argument. LSU’s body of work makes the Tide’s pale in comparison this year, AND you already lost to LSU. You had your chance – give someone else theirs. Alabama is not only the only team in NCAA football, they aren’t the best, either. Not even second best.

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Dawgfan I get your point and it is a stupid rule. I know we got screwed but the rule needs to be changed. It could happen to us again. Some conferences don’t play a championship game so the sec should not be penalized for not winning one. It was a dumb unfair rule in 2007 and it is still dumb. I hope for the future of sec teams that if the highest ranked team in sec does not win the conderence they should still be eligible for the championship game. The rule is simply an unfair ploy to try to stop the sec from dominating the champion ships.

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The Real Dream Team plays in Clemson!

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perk why is that when many teams don’t play in a conference champiuonship and they are eligible. Then teams that play in conferences without conference championships should be ineligible to play in the national championship game

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The BCS is a Ponzi scheme…..

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Exactly, Mark, and that’s what ticks off Georgia fans, because that’s the reason we were told UGA couldn’t paly for the national title in ‘07. In the last week of that season Mizzou and WVU were #1 and #2, then they both lost. Ohio State, at #3, jumped into #1, but Georgia, sitting at #4, was told that, because they didn’t win the SEC Title game (or play in it, even though they were ranked higher than both participants) had to drop to #5. Victims of an unwritten rule that is only sparingly applied, just look at the Big XII. Ou got to play for the National Title after losing the conference by 28 points to Kansas State.

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Mark there may not have been an official rule in 2007 however, that was discussed and it did stringly impact what happened to uga. I worry that the rest of the country is getting sick of the sec dominating and will find a way to discriminate against a non conference champion even if it is top ranked in the bcs

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in 2007, UGA and So Cal should of played for the title……………But, Dawgs were told they didn’t even win their conference…………….Watch the difference this year.

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Mike you are right, but for the good of the sec and the future I hope that does not happen again. We need to reverse the precedent. It could bit us again down the road

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The whole thing stinks and makes me want to throw up.

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Who’s dropped off the radar any farther than Florida? Muschamp has no one returning to make that pro offense any better…or we would of seen them…. You know, things like a QB,FB,RB,TE,WR’s…etc….
He will recruit, but starting 12 freshman on offense won’t get you far…..How much time will the “foamers at the mouth” give Will. Reading the message boards, his time is already up. They are in trouble and don’t know it yet. Fire Muschamp in the middle of year 3 and start over again?????????

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JackDennis
Show me those stats … If you are going to open your mouth … back it up … Cause I can think of a team way down in the bottom of Florida (Miami) that “squanders” just as much talent…. I cant stand when people open their mouth about stuff they have no backing on…

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Mr. Bradley has no idea what he’s talking about. He doesn’t even know how the three way tie-breaker works and he’s trying to convince people that he’s the expert.

If Arkansas beats LSU, Alabama is more likely to win the SEC West. It doesn’t matter if LSU is within five spots in the rankings if they finish behind Alabama and Arkansas in the BCS rankings. The top two teams in the rankings that are part of the three way tie have to be within 5 spots of one another! Arkansas will be ranked ahead of LSU if they pull off the victory in Baton Rouge, but likely behind Bama. Therefore, the top two teams out of the three way tie will be Bama and Arkansas, and Bama will win the SEC West because of their head-to-head victory against Arkansas.

LSU is out of the SEC West equation if they finish the regular season trailing Bama and Arkansas in the BCS standings.

Get it together, man.

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Mark, where can you find the exact quote from Les Miles that stated you should not play for the NC if you don’t win you conference?

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Hey Rick, When are you coming out with a new movie? I watched Gost Busters over the weekend and you were great!

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Insider, he ( Les) was all over the place with that in 07 as he was campaigning to get LSU in the NC game over Georgia.

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I would have to say LSU is the team that has the most pressure, along with Ok St, and can not afford to lose a game now.

If the Tigers lose to Ark or UGA, then their chances will be pretty much be gone as far as playing in the national title game. The Tigers have been number 1 for 8 straight weeks, the longest streak since Ohio St was number 1 for 15 weeks in 2006. Yet this will be the year that losing at the end of the season will kill their chance of playing on January 9.

LSU could well be 12-1 and watching Alabama and Oregon, 2 teams they beat, play in the national title game.

This is the system and unfortunately we have to live with it.

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Hey Rick, When are you coming out with a new movie? I watched Gost Busters over the weekend and you were great!

We’re trying to get Ghostbusters 3 going, but Bill Murray is being a sour old turd.

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JB,

If UF loses badly enough to FSU it may be over this year. Those fans are so spoiled and Muschamp was crazy to take that job. It’s a lose/lose situation following a legendary coach and he should have thought about that. I don’t see any improvement next season as well… I also heard that both freshman qb’s are thinking of transferring because they are not pro-style guys.

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Great post reality man

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All this talk . . .
Bama has to get by Georgia Southern first.

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I know that this will irritate some dawg fans, but I am one and I am hoping that CMR is over the hump in turning the program around and I am supportive and pulling for him. However I am not yet convenced. We don’t need to rush out and give him a fat contract extention until we see how we start next season. Keep in mind we have not yet beaten a good football team.

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Early line per Danny Sheridan for the SECCG:

ARK vs UGA/ Even
Bama vs UGA/ Bama by 8 or 9
LSU vs UGA/ LSU by 9 or 10

Geaux Tigers
Go SEC

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Mike

November 16th, 2011
9:29 am
Speaking of ESPN, if I remember right, it was Mark May and ESPN leading the charge for voting down UGA in 2007. Now all we hear about is Mark May trumpeting Alabama while Lou Holtz is trumpeting an Oregon/LSU rematch. Rece Davies graduated from Bama so you know what he’s going to say. The rest of the columnists are falling right in line.

Dont leave out SI.com either. They are shoveling the same nonsense with Staples and Mandel.

Mark May is the biggest idiot on ESPN and most liekly in the history of ESPN. He was a sausage jockey for USC until the Bush Scandal now he has jumped sausages to Bama.

Holtz- Deaf, Dumb, and Retarded.

Why do you think they are always grouped together?

I for one have boycotted ESPN and only watch gameday to see if the Corso curse is on. Other than that ESPN is load of BS and not worth my time.

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This will be the only scenario for UGA to jump up into NC talks:

USC over Oregon
LSU over Ark
OK State over OK
Auburn over Bama
Clemson VS VA Tech- one has to lose

UGA over LSU for SEC Title

That eliminates all 1 loss teams except Stanford and Boise, and Houston (Undefeated but come one no shot)

All of that could happen, but most likely wont. The Auburn game is most likely the biggest stretch, but I wont count out their hatred for Bama.

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math: LSU won 1 more game than UGA did in 2007. That makes LSU’s record better.

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“I don’t root for anybody, DC. I get paid not to root”

Then you are getting paid for a job that you do not do well.

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I would love to see a UGA-LSU SECCG. No pressure for the DAWGS as they were written off long ago and will be effectively written off for that game, as well. I have no optimism about UGA’s chances- pretty sure they would lose to LSU; but wouldn’t it be neat if the top team from the dreaded, worthless, weak east division were to manhandle the west’s best team? What would all you “westerners” say about the eastern division if THAT happened? If BAMA backs its way in to the BCSCG without winning the conference, I want to see ESPN ’splain that to all the UGA fans for the 2007 shafting.

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The BCS system is flawed and everybody knows it flawed but the stupid NCAA does nothing to try to correct the flaw! The NC in D1 Football is not about who is the best team – it’s about who has the best season. Someone above showed this clearly: GA wins out, beats LSU in the SEC C game but has 2 early losses and AL goes to the NC. That can’t be right. If GA wins out and beats LSU, who has been ranked as no. 1 for most of the season, then GA ought to be considered as the best team in the country and play for the NC. The BCS takes no consideration as to who beats who and when they do it. Its all about the record at the end of the season, as it was in 2007. GA could beat LSU at the end of the season, but because LSU has a better record are they to be considered better than GA who just beat them? Non-sense! And why would Bama all of a sudden jump over LSU AND GA in the polls when GA just beat LSU in the SECCG and LSU already did the same during the season? That is stupid too. If GA wins out and beats LSU as the no 1 team in the country, then GA should play for the NC! I don’t think that will happen, but it could and who is best in the SEC should NOT revert to Alabama who has already been beaten by LSU. The only solution is a playoff. A playoff settles everything. Right now though – let the SEC Champ play for the NC until the SEC Champ loses 2 in a row. The truth is, and everybody knows it, everybody is trying to catch up to the SEC. Until they do, the SEC Champ ought to play for the NC.

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Two points: (1) There will never be a rule requiring conference title until Notre Dame joins a conference. Those who provide BCS money (television) will not allow nation’s number one television draw (much to my chagrin) to be eliminated and (2) There will never be playoff in the FBS division of the NCAA as long as it has 100+ members. There is a a better cnance with the lastest actions of OSU and PSU (very likely covering up transgressions), that bowls will be eliminated altogether once the collective college presidents grow a pair.

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Is his name really McQueary? Or are you just making that up?

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Watching power programs play meaningful do or die games in late Dec. would be horrible. No way ESPN would be able to hype the winner of say LSU/OU against Ore/ Bama winner. College football champions should be decided by three things, middle aged sportswriters, computers, and head coaches, period. We SHOULD NOT decide a champ on the field.

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Good article, Mark. Really liked the last bit about dropping the sport….LOL

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Thanks for bringing this up, Mark, and for comparing it to the 2007 UGA decision. Hipocrisy seems to be okay when it gives the powers that be the opportunity to engage in a little hero worship with its favorite coach.

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Billy: sorry – had to work for a while! You are dead on – if a conference does not have a championship – no chance to play for crystal trophy. would also love to see Les Miles quote on the conf championship if anyone finds int

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Also, much of the logic, or lack of logic, on this thread of comments fails to point out that in 2007, LSU was a two-loss BCS Champion, and in 2008, Florida was a one-loss BCS Champion. LSU lost to Kentucky and Arkansas, while Florida lost at home to Ole Miss. Alabama lost to the top-ranked team in the country in overtime at home. I’m not screaming re-match, but dismissing Alabama over that loss is pretty ignorant. Bama is deserving of number three ranking right now, just as LSU would be if the roles were reversed. Also, Stanford and Boise just pointed out that those teams aren’t worth their rankings at this moment. If Oregon loses to USC, then the Ducks shot at another BCS title game is pretty much over. There is a pretty great deal of college football left to play, and the last few weeks should be pretty damn interesting.

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Since bam a cheats by giving their players suits and cutting players by putting them on medical redshirt, they must have a plan to cheat if they are tied for first. Will they be buying suits for all the voters or will they be telling the voters they can not vote for medical reasons.We will see if this is part of the process.

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Funny wrote “Let’s have an 8 game playoff and be done with it”.

Spoken from one who never attends games and most likely did not attend the University they root for.

You gotta love the Cap n T-Shirt Crowd!!!!!!!!!!!!! they have all the answers

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Dawgs need to just take care of bizness and we will be where we need to be….Love my DAWGS!

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Mountain Dawg wrote “I want espn to explain to all Dawgs why it didn’t work that way in 2007″.

Espn “Because you lost to South Carolina(16-14) and Tennessee (By 3 TD’s actually 4 if not for a late TD on UGA part) Alabama lost to LSU in OT by 3 points after missing 3 field goals in Regulation. As much as Georgia rationalize 2007, IT IS NOT THE SAME!”

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Enter your comments here

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sansho, you assume the west winner would beat UGA. That is a seriously dumb assumption.

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The BCS is designed to pit polled #1 vs #2 while mantaining a crooked, corrupt bowl system and keep all the real money in the hands of the large schools. It’s still never been better to be a small school like Boise or TCU, but a playoff system would put at risk payouts to the big conferences every year, that’s what it’s really about.

It’s not going to change because college presidents and bowl presidents are corrupt, just like the rest of the politicians in this country.

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The next person that utters the phrase “student athlete” in the media while being employed by an institution that offers athletic scholarships should get a pie in the face.

If you have an athletic scholarship, you are paid to play a sport, not get an education. You are in college because you are a marketing employee of the institution. Getting an education is an ancillary benefit, period.

The phrase “student athlete” should be amended to “athletic student” or they should be fined every time they freaking utter it.

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aw

November 16th, 2011
11:06 am
Mountain Dawg wrote “I want espn to explain to all Dawgs why it didn’t work that way in 2007″.

Espn “Because you lost to South Carolina(16-14) and Tennessee (By 3 TD’s actually 4 if not for a late TD on UGA part) Alabama lost to LSU in OT by 3 points after missing 3 field goals in Regulation. As much as Georgia rationalize 2007, IT IS NOT THE SAME!”

its the exact same moron. Ur just rationalizing it for Bama.

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Who cares?

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Meant LSU loses

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Unfortunately, UGA blew their chance at the natl championship in the USC game. That one loss is keeping them out of the championship discussion..so thats why Im ok with LSU playing for the title despite not being the conf champion

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UGA had 2 losses in 2007, in addition to not being the SEC East champion. There is no way they deserved to go in 2007. LSU had 2 losses, but were SEC champions. This year Alabama only has one loss.

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About 07 dawg not going while BAMA going this year. Man, some of you really have dumb arguments.

1. BAMA going is based on a 1-game loss this year while UGA lost 2 games in 07. If BAMA lose 2 games, they should not go and have no chance anyway.

2. BAMA’s 1-loss is a heartbreaking loss to LSU with 4 missed goals. That’s why they are ranked so high because of the 4 missed goals. If BAMA is a lopsided loss to LSU, do you believe BAMA is ranked as high as it is?

3. UGA was not that impressive in 07 as LSU/BAMA this year. LSU/BAMA are the best teams and others are behind by a mile this year. UGA was a good team at the end of 07, but few bought it was one of the top 2 teams, with the exception of a portion of UGA fans.

I don’t mind LSU/BAMA going at it again in the NC. Basketball/Baseball and Pro-Football all the times. Falcons beat Green Bay in the regular season, but lost to them in the play-off.

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Mountain Dawg,

“If BAMA backs its way into the BCSCG without winning the SEC, I want to see ESPN explain to all the DAWGS why it didn’t work that way in 2007.”

You don’t need ESPN to explain to all the DAWGS. Even a big portion of the dawg fans can do it.

1. That’s because you had 2 losses in 07 while BAMA has only 1 loss. Can BAMA go if they have 2 losses? No.
2. LSU had 2 losses but went to NC, well they won SEC Champ that year, while your dawg did not win SEC in 07.

What else cannot you understand. Even a dumb guy can help explain to you since your IQ is obviously very high.

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Alphare – We understand the issue of UGA not winning the conference in 2007, but the point MountainDAWG and other are making is that we UGA fans were told by a certain major sports-news outlet that the reason UGA was denied chance at the BCS Title was because they did not win the conference. Regardless of record, it seems like it is suddenly okay this year for a non-conference winning team to play for the BCS Title, when in 2007 it was decided that a team must win their conference to play for the BCS title.

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Arkansas should go to the SEC championship if they beat LSU. What ever happened to who ever has the highest point total goes in a tie-breaker? Plus I hope Arkansas goes, because I think UGA would have a better chance beating them than LSU or Alabama.

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If Georgia wins the sec championship then they need to play for the title!
LSu did it! Bama dropped one spot after a loss. if that was
Ga they would have dropped out of the top 25

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How is it not the same? UGA was ranked #3 in the nation going into the final week of the regular season in 2007. The top 2 teams (correct me if I’m wrong–Missouri and WV) lost. Simple math would equate to UGA jumping to #1. Instead, the #7 team, LSU, jumps everyone except Ohio State. Since you know everything, please explain that tom me. UGA and the real USC were the best 2 teams in 2007, yet we had to watch that crappy NC game. The BCS was created to eliminate the human element. College football is a double standard at face value. Most writers never played football, so they rely on “expert” opinions. How is Kirk Herbstreit an expert? They guy sucked at Ohio State, just sayin’.

Maybe you don’t understand the logic (minus the Bama education –too easy) b/c during the time Bammer was fighting to finish about .500. You guys were like the Lochness Monster, we heard about you, but we never had proof you existed.

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How about a spulling contest as a tiebreaker?

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All you drooling mutt fans are delusional and overlooking Georgia Tech. You will lose.

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No one would dare deprive the great Saban of a NC even if he did not win the big games. Hail to Saban. Hail to oversigning.

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Nick Saban = 2NC
Mark Richt= 0 NC

FINAL VERDICT

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ARdawg, you are right, there are no stipulations, but there will be tremendous uproar if a 1 loss Pac 12 champion or a 1 loss Big 12 champion, or even a 1 loss ACC champion get left out over a 1 loss team that was not the best in their conference. It would be even worse if Alabama got in without even winning their division, over other conference champions. If LSU were to lose the SEC championship then we are probably looking at an Oregon vs. Ok St / Oklahoma championship.

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Stop modderating my comments you gutless coward. Just post them and if you dont like them take them down later. This is getting very old. You guys let all the trolls come in here and say whatever they want but yet you moderate my comments for calling them idiots. GET OVER IT, stop trying to spare peoples feelings, its a blog.

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just typical of a Bammer…thinking they are above the rules (whether they be unwritten or written)…How is it not the same? UGA was denied to the right to play for the BCS title in 2007 because they didn’t win their Division nor Conference Championship….Fast forward to 2011…Bama is as of right now not in a position to play in the SECCG because they are not the Division leaders….It’s pretty simple if they don’t win the Conference they shouldn’t be allowed to play for the BCS Title…And yes other Conferences don’t have title games but they still have Conference Champions…..

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Mark is absolutely right. The NCAA has no clear cut rules – the two top teams as determined by the BCS formula will play for the national championship. That’s all that matters. It may produce a weird result – i.e. Bama playing for and winning the National Championship without winning its conference, but when has college football ever made any sense.

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Rework the 4th paragraph? May have missed a there and ever/even? Is Oklahoma State going to be the non-SEC team in the BCS title game?

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“If UGA wins the SEC championship then the SEC is not going to have a team in the title game.”

That would mean football has digressed to ESPN analysts.

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Bottom line Bama does not belong in the BCSCG

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“beat”

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GT Bob

As it stands now Bama is a bit of a darling to the voters. That will unlikely change if they take care of business with AU. Two things to look out for, if LSU continues undefeated they will be there. If Okie St loses to OU, very likely we’ll have a rematch of Bama/LSU for the NC.

I don’t think it’s right but, it is shaping up to that’s what it’ll be. If LSU should stumble you’ll most likely see a Bama, non-conference winner vs an Oregon or OU, Okie St. or possibly a Clemson.

It does not look at this point that any of these teams will stumble on the remaining schedules but, anything is possible. You can rest assured though, there will be LSU or Bama or possibly both in a NCG

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Bama blew it and does not deserve a “do over”

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ARDawg,

Green Bay blew it many times last year including against Falcons, but ended up as Superbowl Champ. What do you think?

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Apples and Oranges dude…Apples and Oranges

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Yeah if OKState slips up then you will see Alabama and LSU play for BCS because that’s what ESPN wants

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The entire rationale behind the BCS is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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“Yeah if OKState slips up then you will see Alabama and LSU play for BCS because that’s what ESPN wants”.

Not just ESPN, the last BAMA/LSU game had the biggest viewership in 28 years.

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Bama will jump the SEC champion if it is GA.

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“Not just ESPN, the last BAMA/LSU game had the biggest viewership in 28 years.” …. True..people wanted to watch that first game because it was hyped up for 2 months by ESPN…I doubt it gets the same viewership the second time…

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Your the idiot! Leave Bradley out of it!!!!…it’s not the win & losses here…it’s the fact of not winning a Conference championships and still being allowed to play for a BCS title after a team was not allowed in 2007 for that very same reason

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what about the fact that IF UGA loses the SECCG, SC will get a better bowl game than UGA?

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If UGA loses the SECCG, their record will be 10-3 and the division champ. If they won 11-2 would guarantee the Sugar. 10-2 SC’s would likely get the pick after UGA 10-3 between Capitol One or OutBack. If they got a NYs bowl at all.

Of course that is assuming the SEC East is the ACC champ again this year

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I could see a 3 loss GA team going outback instead of a 2 loss SC in cotton

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“Your the idiot!”

MB, don’t you just love this blog?

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Wahhh, wahh, wahhh, spoken like a true blind Bulldog fan. Yeah, starting out getting whipped up on Boise State, lookin real good, real good. Way to represent the SEC. Keep it up – keep bringing down the conference with inexplicable losses. Keep good ole Mark Richt around as long as you’d like.

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Alphare the idiot. Ga LOST to TWO unranked teams that year and ONE was a BLOWOUT LOSS dumbass. Lsu lost two games by a combined 5 points, one against a top 20 team AND one in OT. Performance and score does matter idiot.

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Georgia Dawgs, GET a Grip. Do it today while there’s still time. Your team is the tallest dwarf in the room called SEC East. Big Whoop. Drop the same dwarf in the SEC West and you’re 5-5, tops. This is real, do not adjust your screen.

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I love it when someone calls someone an idiot and can’t even use correct grammar. You’re NOT your dumb rednecks

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aw is a clueless bammer: spot on, my friend! Nobody (particulary alabma was lobbying for Georgia to be in the BCS title game in ‘07. Why, you ask? Because Georgia didn’t win their division, or the SEC championship that year. I agree they probably shouldn’t have played in the game that year for those reasons. The facts are this for Alabama: they had their shot to solidify their position on November 5th, at HOME no less, and didn’t get it done. NOW all of a sudden, the very things that kept Georgia from going in ‘07 aren’t relevent any more. Gimme a break! Are the rules and attitudes on who makes the game dependent upon who may get left out? It certainly looks that way to me. We were called WHINERS in ‘07 for saying the same things Alabama fans are saying in ‘11.

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Should read will not be in a bcs bowl. Bama WILL be in a bcs bowl, if not the national champ game.

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I am posting a link of an interview with LB Josh Harvey-Clemons
The state of Georgia’s top linebacker prospect says he would like to be a part of the young Dawgs’ success, and, after a few more official visits, he’ll make a decision in January.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7239668

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If Okie St loses to OU, very likely we’ll have a rematch of Bama/LSU for the NC.

I really just don’t see this happening. You are saying that Bama, who wasn’t even the best team in their division will get a rematch when the number 3, and 4 teams are both conference champions? Personally I think the voters will surge Oklahoma at that point and we would get an LSU/Oklahoma championship. I don’t think there is any way Bama gets in unless all the top teams start losing. The media doesn’t love Bama that much.

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Hey Mark, grow back the mustache you had when I was a kid!

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The problem is the gormless characters running college football.

Does that mean the college administrators? Maybe. Or the college coaches? Maybe. Or is it the NCAA? Maybe.

In any case, those who really do have the power, and should exercise it properly, don’t do their job, and have delegated things to the money boys at ESPN. This is known as selling out to the highest bidder, but it doesn’t have to be that way.

It’s sorta like the Ghetto Ranger jerseys Georgia wore in the Boise game. Designed by Nike, right? But who gave Nike the right to do that? Was it our former, and disgraced Athletic Director? In a similar bad move collegiate Athletic Directors, coaches, conferences, and school presidents, and their staffs have given ESPN the right to say what happens.

It doesn’t have to be this way. They don’t have to default on their obligations.

Hard to believe college football has such a stupid set of rules to determine who wins the big prize, or maybe it’s not hard to believe in the rules, since the only rules seem to be what does ESPN want.

Don’t get me wrong, I want a playoff. But, in its absence, let’s at least have the same rules for everyone.

I thought UGA and USC West should have played for the National Title in 2007. Had we had a playoff, I doubt anyone could have beaten them, but that assumes of course that they would have been in the playoff.

How ’bout in baseball we have a new rule that says that the best wild card team makes the playoffs unless the Yankees look like they would be a “better opponent” because their uniforms are so handsome (and they’re in a big market).

Such a rule would eliminate UGA from any playoffs on the basis that their G.P.R. uniforms were so ugly that no one could stand to see them in the highlight films.

In the real world (not the ESPN world) games are settled on the field, but in the ESPN world games are settled, and titles decided, by talking heads, and their bosses.

I hope UGA wins the championship, Arkansas wins over LSU before that, and the whole stupid BCS Charlie Foxtrot comes to a grinding halt. What if nobody would agree to show up and play, all agreeing the game’s contestants unfairly arrived at?

Oops, I forgot, they’ve already sold out…

Go, Georgia Bulldogs.

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Nice article Mark. Don’t forget to add to the insanity in 2007 Georgia was ranked #4 and somehow even though #1 and #2 lost in the final weekend, Georgia didn’t move up. If allybammer and their dirt stupid inbred fans are in the BCS Championship game without playing in the SEC Championship game college football is a pathetic joke.

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I’m still of the opinion that you shouldn’t be able to play for the MNC if you didn’t win your conference (even if you have the pedigree if an Alabama). After all, why even have conference championship games if they don’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things?

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Response to @aw Easy Answer. In 2007, YOU LOST TO TENNESSEE BY 3 TOUCHDOWNS!!!! not to mention South Carolina. You have beaten 3 teams this year with a winning record in your 8 wins.

Also, real simple UGA is the 4th Best team in the SEC West 4TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Georgia didn’t exactly “struggle” to beat Ole Miss. We beat them by 14 points in Oxford

That’s almost as much as Louisiana Tech and Kentucky beat them by. Kudos to UGA.

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I don’t know whether to laugh at you or feel sorry for you. Since you seem to know everything, please tell me how LSU jumped 6 spots, 2 weeks after losing at home? You know what, forget it. Further proving the point Bammers can’t have intelligent conversations. LSU beat Bammer at HOME, you guys lost but all the necks can’t seem to fathom that. Keep making excuses and justifying your weak argument. Have a good night.

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Neyland’s Ghost,
You just being meen.

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Beast from the East

Sorry, couldn’t help it. Good post above and I agree with you about conference championship games. I guess their real purpose is big money.

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Oh yeah……..since I am dreaming of the best possible scenario. I also would want GT to beat UGA by 35 points prior to the SEC Championship game to ensure UGA has no chance of playing in the NC game after beating LSU by 21 points!

I realize this is not reality; but it would be absolutely great for NCAA football………..we would have a playoff system within 2 years!

The scenario I have outlined is unlikely, but remotely possible; is it not?

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Mark, what would happen if Arkansas beats LSU, and after the fallout all 3 of the teams (Alabama, Lsu, and Arkansas) are all ranked with 5 of each other in the BCS?

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Poor Bama and their GOD Saban. It’s so funny to listen to these ignorant, arrogant, bama fans trying to defend their overrated coach and team. The mighty Tide lost at home as a favorite this year, and they lost 3 regular season games last year after being ranked #1, and after this year they will have only played in 2 SECC games the past 10 seasons. Yet their retarded fans think they are still a powerhouse in the SEC. Last time i checked, LSU, Auburn, UGA, Tenn, and Florida had played in more SECC games the past 10 years than the mighty TIde. Bama fans live in the past, always have and always will. LSU beats them at home this year, Auburn beats them at home last year, but yet they are the most awesome team in the SEC, My ASS. They are overrated this year, and they were overrated last year.And their offense is mediocre, they have no big play receiver, their Q.B. is average at best, he is the 4th or 5th best Q.B. in the SEC in a year the SEC is down as it relates to Q.B’s, Bama’s defense is good, but they haven’t beaten but one team with a decent offense, that being Arky. LSU has no offense, they are ranked 79th in the country. So you Bama fans that are raving about your overrated team as usual, wakeup. UGA, or S.Carolina would lite up Bama, yes UGA, who has a balanced offense,that is rated 30th in the nation, would give Bama all they wanted. And UGA has the 4th rated defense in the country. And last time i checked UGA had beaten the mighty Tide 3 of the last 4 times they played, and 2 of those were on Bama’s home field. Add that to the fact Auburn has beaten the mighty Tide 6 out of the last 8 games, not to mention LSU kicking their asses again at home this year. Add all of these facts up, and you have an overrated Bama team that impressed ESPN due to their coach, but nobody else in the SEC is impressed with them, except retarded Bama fans.Auburn, UGA, S.Carolina, and LSU fans certainly aren’t impressed with the mighty Tide. So keep bragging about your coach who is so overrated, and keep bragging about your team that has no offense, and an overrated defense that hasn’t played a decent offense all year, and you will realize once again when u don’t play in SECC game how great your team really is. 2 SECC games in 10 years is not very impressive, even retards should realize this!!!!!

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I just hope LSU wins out. They’ve played a heckuva tough schedule and have been one of the most focused football teams I’ve seen in years with all of the adversity they’ve faced. Much like Auburn did last year. Miles is a little nutty, but he’s done a wonderful job this season to date.

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I like how you love to mention Bama finishing fourth in the West last year! Seriously, they finished 4th in the West and 10TH IN THE NATION. Let’s imagine UK finished 4th in the East and 10th in the nation, which ranking do you think Bradley would leave out? It’s ridiculous to mention finish the 4th place finish w/o mentioning that Bama did in fact finish higher than 90% of the teams in college football. Top 10- Bradley- nothing to hang your head about…..

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still whining after all these years…

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It doesn’t matter who the West sends to Atlanta. Dawgs win.

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I think people are overlooking Arkansas in a 3-way tiebreak in the West. If they somehow beat LSU on the road, I think there is a good chance that voters will bump Arkansas ahead of LSU and keep LSU ahead of Alabama.

Computers would probably still like LSU the best, so it could get very close in the BCS rankings. Bama could take a slight hit in the computers over the next two weeks – I think Penn State loses out, hurting Bama’s strength of schedule, and a game against an FCS team this weekend isn’t going to help.

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“regarding Auburn, do you think Bama will obliterate and humiliate them like we did?”

Everything is off the table when it comes to the Iron Bowl.

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ALABAMA SHOULD BE TREATED JUST LIKE GA WAS IN 2007. GA WAS THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY THAT YEAR AND THEY PROVED IT BY WINNING 8 IN A ROW AND BEAT 5 RANKED TEAMS IN THE PROCESS OF THE 8 STRAIGHT WINS. But GA got cheated because the CRAP ” You did not win your conference” so Alabama should be left out of it also! Ga is on a current tear like 2007, they will get their shot at the conference championship, AND THEY WILL BEAT LSU, just like they would have in 2007 but was not give the chance! When GA beats LSU, they should play for the NC but once again they want get the chance! But the GA win will knock LSU out of it! I see Oregon playing Oklahoma for it all. Go DAWGS!

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We can always hope for the worst… an alabama Lsu rematch… Maybe we could get that much closer to a playoff.

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Y’all are all missing the conspiracy angle here. There is one way, and only one way, that a conference can get three teams into the BCS. Two teams finish #1 and #2 in the BCS rankings but neither wins the conference. If UGA beats LSU in a close game, and everyone else has a loss, you could have Bama-LSU for the natty and UGA in the Sugar.

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RICHT and EVERYBODY ELSE involved with the program said at the time….”we weren’t aware there was a rule that a team had to win it’s conference in order to compete for the championship”

ESPN including the likes of Herbstreet and Holtz, unequivically said that not winning your conference eliminates you from contention. Holtz “if you want to compete for the championship, then win during the regular season and win your conference”. Alabama didn’t do that…PERIOD.

If UGA beats LSU, then they did what is required to compete for a championship (arguably); however, LSU and ALABAMA definitly did not…….if LSU loses. If LSU wants to compete for a championship………WIN!!! It’s that simple.

That’s my biggest problem with this BCS POLLING CRAP!!!! THE RULES (as they are interpreted at the time) CHANGE TO SUIT THE MEDIA (Namely whoever is televising the event that year) AND THE SILIENT PARTNERS FOR MONITARY REASONS AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FINDING THE BEST “FOOTBALL TEAM” IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.
IT’S NOT ABOUT MATCHING THE #1 AND #2 TEAM IN THE COUNTRY…..IT’S ABOUT MANIPULATING THE POLLS TO ENSURE THE #1 AND #2 TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY WILL PRODUCE THE MAXIMUM DOLLARS.

The year LSU leapfrogged UGA, I don’t believe there was a team in the country that could have beaten UGA and many, including ESPN (who for some inexplicable reason lobbied hard against UGA) conceded that point. You can’t apply one standard this year and another next year. That is simply not FAIR. I know………Life’s not fair. But in this particular instance the perception of fairness must be maintained or the BCS and the whole idea of a division 1A champion becomes unreliable and irrelevant. In my opinion…to hell with the corrupt and rediculous (most of the people that vote are just playing follow the leader) polls…..UGA won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in 2007!!!!!!!!! They beat the hell out of the team put in front of them in the SUGAR BOWL (Hawaii of all teams). The powers in charge of this mess could have put them in front of a respected USC team, but if they had beaten them like they beat Hawaii, that would have created far too much controversy.

Sorry, ALABAMA LOST…………THEY’RE OUT. IF LSU LOSES…………..THEY’RE OUT. IF UGA BEATS THE HELL OUT OF LSU, WHO IN TURN BEAT ALABAMA…….WHAT THEN???

UGA has the same quality defense that LSU and ALABAMA have. The biggest difference is that they have an offense to go with it. So if they beat the best defense in the nation. Who deserves to go to the championship game more than they do? LET’S TAKE A VOTE

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Nick Saban IS the greatest coach in America. Who else but Saban would be smart enough to PLAN to lose to LSU to put his team in a better position to play in the National Championship game. Saban didn’t want any part of playing UGA or S. Carolina in the SEC Championship game so he held his offense back and let LSU win the game, knowing that LSU would get beat in Atlanta and fall behind ‘Bama in the BCS rankings. Just brilliant, Saban.

(I don’t believe a word of what I just wrote, but if Alabama makes it to the BCS Championship, it won’t be long before some Alabama fan comes up with this kind of logic.)

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Being an SEC fan, if the Dawgs can’t go, I want another SEC team to represent, and win of course like we always do. 6 in a row and counting…

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IF UGA SHREDS THE SECOND BEST DEFENSE IN THE NATION AND SHUTS THEM OUT. AND THAT SAME TEAM BEAT THE #1 DEFENSE IN THE NATION. HOW CAN YOU ELIMINATE UGA FROM COMPETING FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP? The best is the best. That’s what a championship is. They lost early and close. Since then they have improved exponentially with each game. Through history (only not division 1A Football history) there have been champions in every sport that started out losing and turned into a dominant force in there sport only to finish their respective playoffs on top. Since division 1A football doesn’t have a playoff, a different approach has to be taken to crown a champion. The win-loss columns can’t be the only deciding force. Over the years I’ve heard various justifications and rationalizations for why a team that loses a game early in the year is forgiven at the end of the year, particularly if they show improvement each week and win their conference. The only problem is that you only hear these arguments when it involves the ESPN darlings such as OHIO ST, OKLA, USC, TEX, Basically any team west of the Mississippi. Or in this case if they think the game payoff is going through the roof…they will lobby for an LSU vs. ALABAMA rematch. That will happen, but it doesn’t necessarily mean the best team in the country is Champion. That’s not their concern….money is.

If UGA beats the second best defense in the nation soundly and that defense beat the best defense in the nation, then where does that leave UGA? In my opinion, UGA has an equivalent defense to LSU and ALABAMA (which they will prove on the field soon)…..more over, and more importantly, they have an offense to go with it (unlike LSU and ALABAMA). They will score on LSU. LSU will score on UGA but not on offense. I predict UGA 17—LSU—6. END OF STORY.

By the way, in the words of Lou Holtz with enthusiastic agreement from Herbstreet in 2007….”If you want to compete for the championship, the solution is to WIN YOUR GAMES IN THE REGULAR SEASON and WIN YOUR CONFERENCE!!!” If LSU and ALABAMA both lose, then they are eliminated because that is the criteria that eliminated UGA. If you start allowing exceptions, then credibility is completely lost and we may as well just have a local vote at the town hall (IN WHICH CASE UGA WOULD BE CHAMPION WHERE I LIVE—-Unless they lose to LSU).

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Big mike you are a loon. First to think the GA defense is as good as LSU or BAMA you must not have eyes or haven’t watched football this year (your dawg homerism is showing). Secondly, there is no way a GA team currently ranked 14 in the BCS is going to move ahead of BAMA at 3 no matter who you bet.

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No…Georgia should not have played for the BCS Title in 2007……But they sure should’ve been matched up with USC in the Rose Bowl. That was the biggest SHAFT of the all the bowl match-ups…….UGA-Hawaii & USC-Illinois were total waste of time blow outs, when ABC/ESPN would have had a better game than the National Title game…Back room wheeling and dealing between Pac-10 and Big-10 cronies got the pay check….College football got the shaft!!

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Why does anyone look at a system like the BCS and expect precedent to apply? Every year is different. Every year, the assortment of teams and wins and losses changes.

If Alabama gets in, it won’t be because of the man behind the curtain, it will because the tumblers fell its way.

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I do not understand why people have so much trouble embracing the concept of a “mythical National Champion” but buy into systems based on poll results. Even if there is a playoff there will still be some element of poll results determining eligibility. Is there anyone out there who isn’t a hypocrite?

Actually, there is some sense in the current system. Honoring the polls helps teams playing their best football at the end of the season vs. early in the year.

Let’s face it – it would be soooo cool for UGA to knock off the West representative in the SEC Championship, regardless what impact it has on the BCS games. The most important bowl game in my household will be the one with UGA participating.

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Arkansas beats LSU … OK beats OK State … UGA beats LSU in SECCG.

ESPN invites the top 8 BCS teams (according to end of reg. season rankings) to the National Championship Game … all 8 teams on the field at once …

ESPN helicopter drops $10 million in cash on the field and the whole country (on National TV) gets to watch them fight, kick and scratch for their share of the $$ like pigs in slop.

Is this really any different than our current BCS process??

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Mark: Interesting article(Loved that last line) I believe a “GOOD COUNTRY LAWYER” could tie this thing up in court for years.

A GOOD COUNTRY LAWYER = One who goes to court with his client charged with sodomy and gets it reduced to following too close.

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I don’t care who wins what. I just know currently LSU/BAMA are the best teams in the nation. If you remain the best 2 teams, I want them to play in NC.

UGA is ranked 14th. I don’t even want to watch UGA in any BCS game because LSU/BAMA/AR/USC are better than UGA.

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No, even if UGA wins out, they should not get the NC bid, nobody in the SEC should.

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Sam: Apparently you have never met Big Mike or you wouldn.t dare call him a loon. Personally I agree with BM over that drivel you are putting out

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I do seriously have to laugh at all the UGA blowhards. You beat Auburn…. Not Bama, nor Oregon… hell you couldn’t even beat Boise St. and now because you wax an Auburn team that is mediocre at best you think you’re ready for the big boys???? Laughable.. truly laughable, that’s all I can say. I can’t wait for 12/3. Don’t you all go and hang yourselves when UGA loses by 10+ pts

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Samuel,

it takes 1 game for a UGA fan to pump his chest, and it takes 2 games for him to call for Richt’s head.

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It’s not who they beat or the score thats impressing me. I’ve seen that before and wasn’t moved.

But this team from the beginning reminded me of the teams of the early ’80’s when the mantra was
“HUNKER DOWN YOU HAIRY DAWGS”. The boys are back to playing ERK RUSSELL style defense and like the early 80’s, have a top notch young offense to go with it. These guys will be competing for a while and this is their coming out year.

The one little difference between their championship year of ‘80 and now is that they Tied Clemson with a last second field goal and beat Florida on an 88 yard pass completion with 1:12 left on the clock to go undefeated. They had more experience and leadership on that team though. This team should have beaten South Carolina, but they weren’t tempered enough at the time to handle the pressure of playing two ten teams right off the bat. On the flip side, the intensity of that part of their schedule helped to mold them into the team they are now. Next year DAWG fans will be rewarded with something that’s been missing for a long time.

As I said before the season started, the team will grow exponentially throughout this year and will be highly competitive before it’s over mainly because of the defense that’s been absent for a long time, but next year they will be a force to be reconned with. This is a young team and defense is always ahead of the offense on the learning curve.

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Has any one heard the rumor about Gus mahlzon leaving auburn to be HC at north Carolina?

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If (and more likely when) LSU beats UGA in The SECC then this hypothetical nonsense you propose will be moot – forgive me for repeating myself.

In the unlikely event The Dawgs beat LSU the BCS will NOT pit LSU v Bama again as the West Coasties must be satisfied.

So goes college football without a playoff system.

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Someone pointed this out up thread, but the biggest 2007 snub was the Rose Bowl taking Illinois instead of Georgia. The final 2007 AP poll did not have LSU a unanimous #1; Georgia got 3 first places votes, USC got 1, and Kansas got 1. There was an outside chance that a USC-Georgia match-up could produce an “instant classic” with the winner having a chance, albeit small, of winning the AP title.

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Let’s try this again (sorry if it posts twice)- How many people who want a Bama-LSU rematch are NOT Bama fans (or players or coaches)? If you get one and win, shouldn’t LSU get a rematch to settle the matter, best 2 out of 3? But if you aren’t a frustrated Bammer and want a rematch, what’s your thinking?

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LOL! HEY MARK! I LOVE THAT LAST SENTENCE YOU PUT! HILARIOUS!

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Well, it only stands to reason that the tiebreaker would be as convoluted as Thomas Dimitroff’s hairdoo. After all, if there is one thing that is consistent about the NCAA that would be it’s inconsistency.

The NCAA Basketball Championship is decided by a tournament with nearly every college basketball team there is. On the other hand, the NCAA Football Championship is decided by a formulaic equation that has more twists and turns than a beauty pageant – which, in effect, is what the BCS actually resembles much more than any reasonable form of deciding a sports championship winner.

Not surprising that the NCAA is more like a political election than an actual sporting contest as the only reason that there is not a playoff system in NCAA Football is that the one’s who make the rules feel that they gain more money in their bank accounts by keeping things totally screwed-up under the BCS, and more specifically, have sold their collective souls to the postseason bowl system.

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Nice rant there AntiMe … problem is you spent three paragraphs tearing apart the NCAA for it’s “convoluted” tie breaker rules … and those rules were made by the SEC office … to deal with SEC teams … in SEC playoffs .

The fact that the rest of the nation knows that any possible divisional champ of the East this year is basically the winner of a tallest midget contest is not the NCAA’s fault … or for that matter it is not the fault of the SEC main office either . Whining because sports journalist , coaches and the rest of the nation acknowledges and accepts reality is sort of silly …..

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Just as in 2007, we deserve to play for the championship even if we lose to Kentucky.

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“Yeah, a nice eight-team playoff would come close to solving all this, but I’ve abandoned hope of that.”

Well I haven’t. My college football season will end in a couple of weeks, with the possible exception of the one meaningful game (that would be the “championship game”). All of the other cute little “bowl games” hold nothing for me…I just have no interest in watching exhibition games. I’ll probably watch the championship game, but the other meaningless bowl games don’t even exist as far as I’m concerned. I’m a Tech fan, but I won’t be watching their “exhibition” game either.

Give me four quarterfinal games, a couple of semis, and a TRUE championship game, and I’ll be back. The BCS is a fraud and a scam. Want a playoff? Boycott all these meaningless bowl games. Seriously…the money all comes from TV revenues…if people don’t watch, advertisers won’t pay, and change will come. Now’s the time…don’t wait until the BCS locks-up another long term contract and preventing any hope of a playoff.

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UGA is acting like they don’t even play GT…I know it means nothing for the SEC game,But they already have that game as a W in their book.If the GT team that beat Clemson shows up that day? We got a ball game!

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You GA fans kill me. After the first 2 games you wanted to jump off a bridge and now somehow they are one of the best teams in the country. Can’t wait for LSU to kick that butt so you all come back to reality. In the meantime, keep dreaming as long as you can because it will be over soon.

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Even though LSU came out a winner because of BAMA mistakes, BAMA won in every statistic except points scored ( which pts. wins ballgames) But leaves BAMA as a better team!!!

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SAM- Great answer. For the record: UGA 32-17 with 20 plus arrests, only second to UF in that category

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Herb, Nebraska (speaking of the Big 12) made it to the BCS title game as a non-conference champion. It CAN happen. The only problem I have with Alabama going to the game is what I’ve been saying all along: they had their shot November 5th in Tuscaloosa, and didn’t take care of business. That game was, in effect a “play in game” for the BCS title game. Alabama KNEW how important that game was up front to their title hopes, as did LSU.

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I have a question. If UGA beats a undefeated LSU and LSU and Alabama are ranked 1 and 2 can you have 3 SEC teams in the BCS bowl?

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What they did to UGA back in 2007 was ugly but it established this rule that we must all live by now, like it or not.

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Sam, can’t wait to get a chance at the tigers as well. Then we will see who’s best and stop all this guessing. Love the Dawgs chances over LSU.

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some of you guys keep talking about what happened to GA in 07 and act like was the establishment of some rule. There is no rule anywhere that states you have to win your conference to play in the championship game. you may want there to be a rule but such a rule doesn’t exist. The BCS is not designed to bring conference champions together but rather the 2 best teams.

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d like to mention to the Bama fans on here that in 2007, there were several two-loss teams, just as there may be several one-loss teams this year. What made many U.Ga. fans angry in 2007 was seeing the idle Dogs being leapfrogged in the polls after the conference championship games were played. The same could happen to Bama this year.
The outcome that I’d prefer to see is for the lower ranked teams to win these last few games against the currently higher ranked teams, resulting in more chaos–and more challenges for the “experts” to explain why the two teams that are picked for the mythical national championship games got there. Others above have correctly identified money as the primary rationale for picking some teams over others as opponents in this so-called championship game.
I invite many of you to join me in yawning while the “championship” game is played. Just don’t watch the game. It worked for me after the 2007 season. And if you want to get really serious, just don’t buy the products flogged by the the major sponsors of the “championship” game. Remember, it’s all about the money (and the sales).

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Big LOLs at AntiMe … first he tries a sputtering rebuttal when it was pointed out he obviously doesn’t have a clue WHO created the SEC tie breaker rules . Tried to talk about (convoluted) logic … or something … I think

Then … feeling (and rightly so like his first “rebuttal” didn’t exactly cut the mustard he comes back and PROVES he doesn’t have a clue by trying to expound on his lack of knowledge .

Okay AntiMe … let me explain justtttt enough of this for you that you MIGHT be able to fire up Google … burn up Wikipedia … call up some relatives … and still get it wrong LOL

The NCAA does NOT control the tie breaker rules inside the South Eastern Conference . The NCAA also does NOT control the BCS . I will give you a little hint on where to start looking as to WHY … and then I’ll see how much you can figure out with as much help as you are able to muster ….

Once upon a time , a long long time ago … in a land called the 1980s … there was a fierce some struggle over who could go where on television . The wicked stepmother ( known to YOU as the NCAA ) tried to tell her more beautiful stepdaughters they couldn’t go out on dates with any of the local princes ( known to you as TV networks ) unless her own ugly daughters were asked out too .

And so … the more beautiful daughters (known to you as football programs ) decided to move out of the house . OHHHH the evil stepmother was FILLED with rage . She ranted … She threatened … and she finally said she would prevent any of her uglier daugters from ever talking or playing with the beautiful stepdaughters ever again ( for you this means no one for the Gym Dawgs to play with LOL )

Many of the stepdaughters (including the fairest maiden of them all … known by the glimmering moniker of the Crimson Tide ) thought about relenting to the evil stepmothers demands …

But TWO of the stepdaughters … a handsome maid known as a Sooner … and her homelier looking sister …. so homely she was nicknamed the Bulldog … decided they had had enough . They begged and pleaded for a Fairy Godmother (known to you as the Supreme Court ) to help save them from the evil stepmother . And she did … end of story …

So you see AntiMe … to this very day … the NCAA doesn’t actually control the BCS . All because of something that happened long , long ago … before you were born … in a land far , far away ( and beyond your ability to comprehend or understand )

Now that I helped put it in a format you MIGHT grasp parts of , is all this getting any clearer to you now … AntiMe ? AJC doesn’t allow us to post comic books … so if not … you are out of luck

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The thing that will keep UGA out of the NC game even if they win out and win the SECG is that they are currently ranked too low. There’s not enough time left in the season for them to rise in the poles unless there’s some upsets over the top teams.

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I am baffled by the rule and most of the comments. Both UGA and Ark. are vastly improved from when they lost. If Ark outscores LSU, I know I am in the minority here, but think it is highly probable) then it come to BCS rankings. No one seems to think LSU will drop in rankings after a loss to Ark. They will -Bama did, then climbed back up when other undefeateds lost. I see ArK, Bame and LSU as one loss teams- the BCS decides who goes to play Georgia. Alabama will go because LSU will drop in the standings. Arkansas schedule is stronger than Bama’s but they lose on head to head. The two best teams in the SEC right now are probably Georgia and Arkansas, but we won’t know that until Ark. beats LSU. So if Ark beats LSU, 3 one loss western conference teams will go thru a tie breaker to play Georgia. Bama will win it, and then play Georgia. The question is which one loss team is left out of the bcs-

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If Georgia plays in the Championship game like they did today against Kentucky, look for UGA to indeed announce the canceling of football – hehehehe – Beat KY by the hair of their chinney chin chin -

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It’s a fallacious comparison. A two-loss Georgia didn’t deserve to be in the NC game OVER the Conference Champ. No one would be arguing that should LSU win the SEC title, that either Arkansas or Alabama should be in the NC Game OVER LSU.

Also, Alabama beat Arkansas, LSU beat Alabama and if Arkansas beats LSU they would have done a round robin kind of thing. Of course you also didn’t consider the possibility that if Arkansas beats LSU then they’d leapfrog both Alabama in the rankings.

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Guys, now that the dust has settled from the weekend let’s establish a few things. I guess LSU and Bama didn’t look to bad last weekend after the Game of the Century. Just ask Stanford last week and Oregon and Ok state this weekend. Oklahoma lost to a ranked team.
Unless Bama loses to Auburn, very unlikely, and LSU gets drilled by Ark we will have a rematch of the GOTC. If Ark does win impressively than anyway you look at it we end up with a rematch, either Ark-Bama or Ark-LSU.
I’m not even considering the Dawgs, when you only beat a pathetic UK team when you have a chance to clinch the SEC east, 19-12, and you have a running game, they have 2 chances against the West, slim and none, and even for you SAT challenged Dawg fans I think you understand those odds. Let’s see, those 3 West teams have played each other and a very good Miss ST team. Sorry but the East doesn’t begin to match up so should be a 17 plus point win for the West.
Then the West winner vs. #2 in the West . Let’s just enjoy the dominance the SEC has and realize how far the rest of the country has to go to catch us. Hey, I’m a Vandy grad and fan living in Big 10 country and after 5 in a row some of them still don’t get it.
Roll Tide. My daughter is a frosh down there.

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Now that this crazy weekend is over let’s look at the certainties. First, guess how LSU and Bama played last weekend after the Game of the Century, wasn’t so bad. Just ask Oregon and Ok State on games after big ones. I knew Stanford would lose to Oregon but was surprised that Oklahoma lost to Baylor, who at least was ranked. Now that we’ve established that the SEC is markedly ahead of the rest of the country we can move on. Also, for you Dawg fans who are SAT challenged, loses to S Carolina and Boise were bad and only beating a pathetic UK team 19-10, leaves me wondering how you think you have a chance vs the west. You have no running game and haven’t played the teams in the west so have no idea of the defensive excellence you will face. Let’s face it Dawgs, a trip to the Gator Bowl may be it.
Let’s face it, SEC competition, especially the West prepares you for battles each week. The rest of the country has a long way to go to catch the SEC and the beat seems to go on as they consistently have the largest number of teams in the top 25 recruiting every year.
I’m a Vandy grad and fan living in Big 10 country and some of them are like Dawg fans, they just don’t seem to get it no matter how long they lose.
It looks like an SEC rematch no matter how you look at it. And Ark has little chance against LSU. If they only beat Vandy 31-28 in Nville, what happens at Death Valley.
N’oleans should be an all SEC town Jan. 9th. Let’s enjoy this run of dominance.
Roll Tide. Even tho I’m a Vandy fan have a freshman daughter in T town.

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