The SEC West tiebreakers: Hold your breath and count to five
"If I'm the world's greatest coach, how come I keep losing to Leslie Miles?" (AP photo)
The most intriguing team in the land isn’t the one that won The Greatest Game Ever Played If You Don’t Care About Touchdowns. It’s the one that lost. As it stands, Alabama has a better chance of winning the national championship than it does the SEC crown, and wasn’t it only 2007 — help me on this, Georgia fans — when we were told a team that doesn’t win its conference doesn’t deserve to play for the BCS title?
That was the reason given then for elevating two-loss LSU, which had lost its final regular-season game at home, ahead of two-loss Georgia, which hadn’t lost since Oct. 6, in the final BCS poll. Never mind that the Bulldogs entered the final weekend ranked ahead of the Tigers. But the same thinking mightn’t apply if it comes to a choice between one-loss Alabama and one-loss Anybody Else. (Oklahoma, Oregon, Arkansas, even Clemson.)
Alabama, see, has the aura of a champion, if not necessarily the results. (It has Nick Saban, who somehow remained the world’s greatest coach after finishing fourth in a six-team division in 2010.) It was ranked No. 1 in preseason despite having lost four Round 1 NFL draftees plus its starting quarterback, and it fell only one spot in the BCS rankings after losing at home on a night when all Nick’s men couldn’t muster a TD.
The calls for an LSU-Alabama weren’t just immediate in the aftermath; they’d been raised even before the game began. (The thinking being that, since an SEC team is going to win the BCS anyway, why not make the title game at least interesting?) After prevailing in Tuscaloosa, LSU shouldn’t need to prove it can beat Bama twice to be national champ, but that could well be its assignment. Which would be grossly unfair, but when has big-time college football even been fair?
Even more confusing: LSU can lose to Arkansas in Baton Rouge on Nov. 25 and still represent the SEC West in the Georgia Dome. This is because of a complicated-but-sensible SEC tiebreaker. Were LSU to lose that game and finish in a three-way tie with the Tide and the Razorbacks, the Tigers would still get the West nod as long as they don’t fall more than five BCS spots behind Alabama. The SEC rule in question:
The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the last weekend of regular-season games shall be the divisional representative in the SEC championship game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC championship game.
You might recall that Texas beat Oklahoma in 2008 but couldn’t play for the Big 12 title and was omitted from the BCS title game because the Sooners finished first in the BCS rankings to the Longhorns’ third. That wasn’t right: When teams are tied, head-to-head should be the determinant. The five-or-fewer rule comes close to making that a reality. But there are loopholes within this loophole.
If Alabama is No. 1 in the Nov. 27 BCS standings to LSU’s No. 7, Alabama would represent the West, head-to-head be hanged. If Arkansas should beat LSU and nose ahead of the Tigers in the rankings, Alabama would likewise prevail. Because Arkansas would then be the second-place SEC team in the BCS standings, and Alabama beat the Hogs on Sept. 24.
Here we pause to consider Arkansas’ possible plight. Should they beat LSU, the Razorbacks could make the case that they’re playing the best football in the nation’s best league, but they’d surely be blocked from playing for the SEC title. And the team Arkansas just upset would not, provided LSU stays ahead of Arkansas in the BCS standings, which could well happen. (As we speak, the Tigers are No. 1 to the Hogs’ No. 6.)
Yeah, a nice eight-team playoff would come close to solving all this, but I’ve abandoned hope of that. But at least we in the Eastern time zone are facing a welcome bit of clarity, championship-wise. If Georgia beats Kentucky on Saturday, the Bulldogs will play for the conference title. If they lose to Kentucky, the Georgia athletic association will announce Sunday that it has dropped the sport.
By Mark Bradley
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tyler
November 16th, 2011
6:36 pm
I like how you love to mention Bama finishing fourth in the West last year! Seriously, they finished 4th in the West and 10TH IN THE NATION. Let’s imagine UK finished 4th in the East and 10th in the nation, which ranking do you think Bradley would leave out? It’s ridiculous to mention finish the 4th place finish w/o mentioning that Bama did in fact finish higher than 90% of the teams in college football. Top 10- Bradley- nothing to hang your head about…..
michael
November 16th, 2011
6:46 pm
Match up Comparison when Georgia and LSU both played Auburn:
Offensive Stats-
First Downs Dawgs 30 LSU 23
3rd Down Efficiency Dawgs 12 out of 15 LSU 3 out of 8
Total Net Yards Dawgs 528 LSU 393
Total Rushing Yards Dawgs 304 LSU 174
Total Passing Yards Dawgs 224 LSU 219
Defensive Stats-
First Downs Allowed Dawgs 9 LSU 18
3 and Outs Dawgs 8 LSU 8
Total Yards Allowed Dawgs 195 LSU 248
Rushing Yards Allowed Dawgs 51 LSU 87
Passing Yards Allowed Dawgs 144 LSU 161
Score Dawgs 45 Auburn 7 LSU 45 Auburn 10
*And the media says we do not stand a chance against LSU? Stats clearly show otherwise!
msd
November 16th, 2011
6:51 pm
still whining after all these years…
dawg4u
November 16th, 2011
7:05 pm
I get paid to analyze stocks but I still have my favorites and not so favorites!
DrDawg
November 16th, 2011
7:09 pm
It doesn’t matter who the West sends to Atlanta. Dawgs win.
kreedham
November 16th, 2011
7:15 pm
It will be a moot point when Georgia Southern upsets Alabama……OK stop laughing. We can hope can’t we?
rw
November 16th, 2011
7:17 pm
I think people are overlooking Arkansas in a 3-way tiebreak in the West. If they somehow beat LSU on the road, I think there is a good chance that voters will bump Arkansas ahead of LSU and keep LSU ahead of Alabama.
Computers would probably still like LSU the best, so it could get very close in the BCS rankings. Bama could take a slight hit in the computers over the next two weeks – I think Penn State loses out, hurting Bama’s strength of schedule, and a game against an FCS team this weekend isn’t going to help.
2010 BCS CHAMPS
November 16th, 2011
7:21 pm
Alabama should not play for the title if LSU wins the SEC Championship. If UGA wins the SEC, no SEC should be in the title game.
UGA was left out a few years ago because of that “rule” and so should Bama.
2010 BCS CHAMPS
November 16th, 2011
7:22 pm
“regarding Auburn, do you think Bama will obliterate and humiliate them like we did?”
Everything is off the table when it comes to the Iron Bowl.
ARdawg
November 16th, 2011
7:23 pm
Lotsa Moobs. What’s wrong, no action on the GT blogs? I wonder why
“I really just don’t see this happening. You are saying that Bama, who wasn’t even the best team in their division will get a rematch when the number 3, and 4 teams are both conference champions? Personally I think the voters will surge Oklahoma at that point and we would get an LSU/Oklahoma championship. I don’t think there is any way Bama gets in unless all the top teams start losing. The media doesn’t love Bama that much.”
Bama lost to LSU and dropped a mere two spaces in the BCS. This was directly related to their poll positions (human factor). Since have moved to third and the only teams in front are LSU and Okie St. If Bama doesn’t lose they won’t drop down and no other one loss team will leap frog them. Thus, I think you are wrong, they do love Bama that much
Lamar
November 16th, 2011
7:26 pm
ALABAMA SHOULD BE TREATED JUST LIKE GA WAS IN 2007. GA WAS THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY THAT YEAR AND THEY PROVED IT BY WINNING 8 IN A ROW AND BEAT 5 RANKED TEAMS IN THE PROCESS OF THE 8 STRAIGHT WINS. But GA got cheated because the CRAP ” You did not win your conference” so Alabama should be left out of it also! Ga is on a current tear like 2007, they will get their shot at the conference championship, AND THEY WILL BEAT LSU, just like they would have in 2007 but was not give the chance! When GA beats LSU, they should play for the NC but once again they want get the chance! But the GA win will knock LSU out of it! I see Oregon playing Oklahoma for it all. Go DAWGS!
kentdvm
November 16th, 2011
7:51 pm
What happened in 2007 was that Texas Tech beat Texas, Texas beat OU, and OU beat Texas Tech to create a 3 way tie for the winner of the south division. ESPN and others tried to make it 2 way tie when OU blew out TT in the last game but it was still a 3 way tie. Essentially, OU took the heat for beating TT by too much. If they had squeaked by TT in the last of those 3 games it wouldn’t have created as much hoopla because TT would have seemed more legit. At the end of the season, there was a 3 team tie and the BCS ranking was used to break the tie. You can argue whether using the BCS ranking was the way to break the tie, but I don’t see the travesty in OU playing the the championship. The real travesty would have been if OU didn’t get to play in the game because they beat TT by too much. TT beat TX, TX beat OU, and OU beat TT badly. How is this a 2 way tie between 3 one loss teams?
I own you
November 16th, 2011
7:53 pm
We can always hope for the worst… an alabama Lsu rematch… Maybe we could get that much closer to a playoff.
Old Dawg Fan
November 16th, 2011
7:57 pm
Mark-A great article full of specific history and future problems! Excellent!!! I am not a kiss up either.
BAMA dude
November 16th, 2011
8:02 pm
Y’all are all missing the conspiracy angle here. There is one way, and only one way, that a conference can get three teams into the BCS. Two teams finish #1 and #2 in the BCS rankings but neither wins the conference. If UGA beats LSU in a close game, and everyone else has a loss, you could have Bama-LSU for the natty and UGA in the Sugar.
War Eagle
November 16th, 2011
8:09 pm
In 2004,Oklahoma(11-1) was selected over Auburn (12-0, SEC champs) to play Southern Cal.in NC game, Sooners got beat 54-19. W-L or schedule means nothing. Its favorote schools like bama , Notre Dame, SC, Miami ….in the bias news media
BIG MIKE
November 16th, 2011
8:15 pm
RICHT and EVERYBODY ELSE involved with the program said at the time….”we weren’t aware there was a rule that a team had to win it’s conference in order to compete for the championship”
ESPN including the likes of Herbstreet and Holtz, unequivically said that not winning your conference eliminates you from contention. Holtz “if you want to compete for the championship, then win during the regular season and win your conference”. Alabama didn’t do that…PERIOD.
If UGA beats LSU, then they did what is required to compete for a championship (arguably); however, LSU and ALABAMA definitly did not…….if LSU loses. If LSU wants to compete for a championship………WIN!!! It’s that simple.
That’s my biggest problem with this BCS POLLING CRAP!!!! THE RULES (as they are interpreted at the time) CHANGE TO SUIT THE MEDIA (Namely whoever is televising the event that year) AND THE SILIENT PARTNERS FOR MONITARY REASONS AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FINDING THE BEST “FOOTBALL TEAM” IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.
IT’S NOT ABOUT MATCHING THE #1 AND #2 TEAM IN THE COUNTRY…..IT’S ABOUT MANIPULATING THE POLLS TO ENSURE THE #1 AND #2 TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY WILL PRODUCE THE MAXIMUM DOLLARS.
The year LSU leapfrogged UGA, I don’t believe there was a team in the country that could have beaten UGA and many, including ESPN (who for some inexplicable reason lobbied hard against UGA) conceded that point. You can’t apply one standard this year and another next year. That is simply not FAIR. I know………Life’s not fair. But in this particular instance the perception of fairness must be maintained or the BCS and the whole idea of a division 1A champion becomes unreliable and irrelevant. In my opinion…to hell with the corrupt and rediculous (most of the people that vote are just playing follow the leader) polls…..UGA won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in 2007!!!!!!!!! They beat the hell out of the team put in front of them in the SUGAR BOWL (Hawaii of all teams). The powers in charge of this mess could have put them in front of a respected USC team, but if they had beaten them like they beat Hawaii, that would have created far too much controversy.
Sorry, ALABAMA LOST…………THEY’RE OUT. IF LSU LOSES…………..THEY’RE OUT. IF UGA BEATS THE HELL OUT OF LSU, WHO IN TURN BEAT ALABAMA…….WHAT THEN???
UGA has the same quality defense that LSU and ALABAMA have. The biggest difference is that they have an offense to go with it. So if they beat the best defense in the nation. Who deserves to go to the championship game more than they do? LET’S TAKE A VOTE
D man
November 16th, 2011
8:17 pm
Alabama will win the BCS championship, why? Because LSU will lose to either Arkansas or my Dawgs. no one believes that LSU is really better than Alabama. After watching the game of the decade or whatever, I felt that Alabama was the better team but just blew it. By the way, there lay judge must have been a tiger fan after calling the interception on the 1 yard line a interception when the receivers back was on the ground before he lost the ball. Plus, 4 missed field goals. Hats off to LSU for lucking out with a win but Alabama is a stronger better team. Go Dawgs…
P. Bull Terrier
November 16th, 2011
8:18 pm
Nick Saban IS the greatest coach in America. Who else but Saban would be smart enough to PLAN to lose to LSU to put his team in a better position to play in the National Championship game. Saban didn’t want any part of playing UGA or S. Carolina in the SEC Championship game so he held his offense back and let LSU win the game, knowing that LSU would get beat in Atlanta and fall behind ‘Bama in the BCS rankings. Just brilliant, Saban.
(I don’t believe a word of what I just wrote, but if Alabama makes it to the BCS Championship, it won’t be long before some Alabama fan comes up with this kind of logic.)
Dennis G. Berdanis
November 16th, 2011
8:22 pm
They didn’t just bump LSU above the Dawgs in 2007, they put the Big East and ACC champs ahead of us thanks to Les Miles campaign for conference titles to count more than hot teams who didn’t even play in their league’s championship game. If the Dawgs got reamed by that unofficial rule in 2007, Bama should suffer the same fate with voters dropping them after the conference championship games just like they did to us. And all those teams they put ahead of us? Lost while we finished #2.
D man
November 16th, 2011
8:28 pm
Being an SEC fan, if the Dawgs can’t go, I want another SEC team to represent, and win of course like we always do. 6 in a row and counting…
45ACP
November 16th, 2011
8:39 pm
Alabama fans are the most obnoxious by far. If you don’t win the SEC Championship you don’t play for the MNC, period. You had your shot at LSU, at home, and you lost. So deal with it.
BIG MIKE
November 16th, 2011
8:42 pm
IF UGA SHREDS THE SECOND BEST DEFENSE IN THE NATION AND SHUTS THEM OUT. AND THAT SAME TEAM BEAT THE #1 DEFENSE IN THE NATION. HOW CAN YOU ELIMINATE UGA FROM COMPETING FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP? The best is the best. That’s what a championship is. They lost early and close. Since then they have improved exponentially with each game. Through history (only not division 1A Football history) there have been champions in every sport that started out losing and turned into a dominant force in there sport only to finish their respective playoffs on top. Since division 1A football doesn’t have a playoff, a different approach has to be taken to crown a champion. The win-loss columns can’t be the only deciding force. Over the years I’ve heard various justifications and rationalizations for why a team that loses a game early in the year is forgiven at the end of the year, particularly if they show improvement each week and win their conference. The only problem is that you only hear these arguments when it involves the ESPN darlings such as OHIO ST, OKLA, USC, TEX, Basically any team west of the Mississippi. Or in this case if they think the game payoff is going through the roof…they will lobby for an LSU vs. ALABAMA rematch. That will happen, but it doesn’t necessarily mean the best team in the country is Champion. That’s not their concern….money is.
If UGA beats the second best defense in the nation soundly and that defense beat the best defense in the nation, then where does that leave UGA? In my opinion, UGA has an equivalent defense to LSU and ALABAMA (which they will prove on the field soon)…..more over, and more importantly, they have an offense to go with it (unlike LSU and ALABAMA). They will score on LSU. LSU will score on UGA but not on offense. I predict UGA 17—LSU—6. END OF STORY.
By the way, in the words of Lou Holtz with enthusiastic agreement from Herbstreet in 2007….”If you want to compete for the championship, the solution is to WIN YOUR GAMES IN THE REGULAR SEASON and WIN YOUR CONFERENCE!!!” If LSU and ALABAMA both lose, then they are eliminated because that is the criteria that eliminated UGA. If you start allowing exceptions, then credibility is completely lost and we may as well just have a local vote at the town hall (IN WHICH CASE UGA WOULD BE CHAMPION WHERE I LIVE—-Unless they lose to LSU).
K-Town Dawg
November 16th, 2011
8:49 pm
I don’t see Bama ending up in the NC game for the simple fact that a conference champion determined by an extra game against a quality opponent will get the lift needed to surpass them in the polls.
The real question should be, if UGA beats LSU in the SECCG how big of a negative effect would that have on Bama’s strength of schedule. I fully expect Penn St. to nose-dive and for all the bluster about how weak UGA’s schedule is, losing to an LSU team on your home field who then went on to lose to UGA, who beat essentially no one, can’t help Bama’s argument.
Just like every year, the powers that be will start to assess the “body of work” and the question that will come up will be, how can Bama be one of the two best teams in the country yet not be the best team in their own division? And just like UGA in 2007, Bama will get jumped.
No need to worry, it will sort itself out. However, to my fellow Dawgs that feel the need to do something, feel free to let out a few “War Eagles” during the Iron Bowl, I won’t judge you.
Sam
November 16th, 2011
8:52 pm
Big mike you are a loon. First to think the GA defense is as good as LSU or BAMA you must not have eyes or haven’t watched football this year (your dawg homerism is showing). Secondly, there is no way a GA team currently ranked 14 in the BCS is going to move ahead of BAMA at 3 no matter who you bet.
Dawg_Fan
November 16th, 2011
8:53 pm
At the end of 2007 season, I believe UGA (with Stafford, Moreno and others) were playing the best football in the country. They could have won it all if an * team playoff system would have been in place.
CrashTestChris
November 16th, 2011
9:02 pm
No…Georgia should not have played for the BCS Title in 2007……But they sure should’ve been matched up with USC in the Rose Bowl. That was the biggest SHAFT of the all the bowl match-ups…….UGA-Hawaii & USC-Illinois were total waste of time blow outs, when ABC/ESPN would have had a better game than the National Title game…Back room wheeling and dealing between Pac-10 and Big-10 cronies got the pay check….College football got the shaft!!
Its Just Horseplay
November 16th, 2011
9:06 pm
Sure UGA should not have played in the NC in 07, but they were playing the best ball in the nation.
Brown Dog
November 16th, 2011
9:08 pm
Why does anyone look at a system like the BCS and expect precedent to apply? Every year is different. Every year, the assortment of teams and wins and losses changes.
If Alabama gets in, it won’t be because of the man behind the curtain, it will because the tumblers fell its way.
coppercutter
November 16th, 2011
9:08 pm
“Alabama has the aura of champion”. Of course they do, because they have 13 of them!
All of this is much ado about nothing, LSU will win out.
DawgDad
November 16th, 2011
9:23 pm
I do not understand why people have so much trouble embracing the concept of a “mythical National Champion” but buy into systems based on poll results. Even if there is a playoff there will still be some element of poll results determining eligibility. Is there anyone out there who isn’t a hypocrite?
Actually, there is some sense in the current system. Honoring the polls helps teams playing their best football at the end of the season vs. early in the year.
Let’s face it – it would be soooo cool for UGA to knock off the West representative in the SEC Championship, regardless what impact it has on the BCS games. The most important bowl game in my household will be the one with UGA participating.
Dawg Realist
November 16th, 2011
9:23 pm
Seriously and GTBob,
Ole Miss was definitely not a “signature” win for UGA. To this point, I would have to hang my hat on the Auburn game to fill that role. In any event, I was simply stating that we didn’t exactly “struggle” with Ole Miss. Out of curiosity, who was the most impressive team in the conference this past weekend?
Flounder
November 16th, 2011
9:35 pm
Arkansas beats LSU … OK beats OK State … UGA beats LSU in SECCG.
ESPN invites the top 8 BCS teams (according to end of reg. season rankings) to the National Championship Game … all 8 teams on the field at once …
ESPN helicopter drops $10 million in cash on the field and the whole country (on National TV) gets to watch them fight, kick and scratch for their share of the $$ like pigs in slop.
Is this really any different than our current BCS process??
cloudodust
November 16th, 2011
9:40 pm
It’s all in the scheduling and winning the quailty games on that schedule. Regarding the SEC, LSU has proven itself inside the conference and out. Alabama comes in second as of now. If Arkansas defeats LSU, that will not harm LSU should LSU play and beat the team from the East. And they would.
Brainiac(Dawg for life)(CMR fan for life)
November 16th, 2011
9:56 pm
Mark: Interesting article(Loved that last line) I believe a “GOOD COUNTRY LAWYER” could tie this thing up in court for years.
A GOOD COUNTRY LAWYER = One who goes to court with his client charged with sodomy and gets it reduced to following too close.
BIG MIKE
November 16th, 2011
10:08 pm
SAM——–IN JUST HORSE PLAY states, “Sure UGA should not have played in the NC in 07, but they were playing the best ball in the nation.”
AND I’M A LOON??? I didn’t invent the division method of selecting a “CHAMPION”. I know that no matter what UGA does from here on out, there is no recovering from the 2 early losses in the National Picture….that being said.
What does Champion mean when you are referring to Division 1 football??? Nothing!!! most of the time. The best team doesn’t always win. Only the most popular with the biggest bandwagon. You think I’m a loon, most of the voters just follow the norm and vote with the crowd, unless it’s a team they actually know something about. They get their information from the same place you do….ESPN spin doctors. And those guys are in collusion with the BCS to ensure a big bowl payday occurs, by lining up the teams with the biggest draw for the major bowls. Every now and then one slips through…BY WINNING ala Boise State and TCU. They have to get behind those teams or risk complete loss of credibility and possibly legal action.
If UGA had started the year at #1, they would be ranked higher right now. What were those preseason rankings based on? Nothing. But they are used to determine later standings which be skewed. For instance if a weak team, such as FLORIDA is artificially ranked high due to name recognition and past success, then the first of many teams to beat them has a win against a top ranked opponent on their record which is taken into consideration in the BCS formula for strength of schedule. When in actuality they only beat an average to below average team, not a top ten team. They got that top ten ranking because of media spin and ignorance on the part of the majority of poll voters.
Alphare
November 16th, 2011
10:18 pm
I don’t care who wins what. I just know currently LSU/BAMA are the best teams in the nation. If you remain the best 2 teams, I want them to play in NC.
UGA is ranked 14th. I don’t even want to watch UGA in any BCS game because LSU/BAMA/AR/USC are better than UGA.
GTBob
November 16th, 2011
10:19 pm
Is there anyone out there who isn’t a hypocrite?
I’m not. Here is my plan. There are 11 FBS conferences. Right now 5 of those conferences have no chance at all of ever playing in a MNC game which is silly. Make a 12 team playoff. All 11 conference champions get in, plus either an independent or a wild card. First round, top 4 seeds get a bye. It would take 4 weeks total, and would actually be fair for a change. It still blows my mind that half of the teams in the FBS are not even allowed to compete for a championship.
Its Just Horseplay
November 16th, 2011
10:20 pm
No, even if UGA wins out, they should not get the NC bid, nobody in the SEC should.
Samuel L. Jackson
November 16th, 2011
10:24 pm
Much like the Falcons….. WHAT DO BULLDOGS DO???!!!!!! LAY EGGS!!!
Brainiac(Dawg for life)(CMR fan for life)
November 16th, 2011
10:26 pm
Sam: Apparently you have never met Big Mike or you wouldn.t dare call him a loon. Personally I agree with BM over that drivel you are putting out
BIG MIKE
November 16th, 2011
10:27 pm
We’ll see about that real soon. That argument will actually be settled on a football field, not in a poll. And just for argument’s sake…UGA has a defense equivalent to LSU and a powerhouse offense. I don’t think they can beat UGA. I’m not sure anyone can score many points on either LSU or Alabama, but they don’t have an offense either and no matter how good your defense is…..you win games by scoring points. You saw what happened when they played each other. Neither team could score cause neither had an offense. UGA does have an offense and a defense that can stop their average offense.
UGA 17—————LSU 6………………Mark it down!!!!!!!
Samuel L. Jackson
November 16th, 2011
10:29 pm
I do seriously have to laugh at all the UGA blowhards. You beat Auburn…. Not Bama, nor Oregon… hell you couldn’t even beat Boise St. and now because you wax an Auburn team that is mediocre at best you think you’re ready for the big boys???? Laughable.. truly laughable, that’s all I can say. I can’t wait for 12/3. Don’t you all go and hang yourselves when UGA loses by 10+ pts
Brainiac(Dawg for life)(CMR fan for life)
November 16th, 2011
10:31 pm
Alphare: you know less about college football than anybody I ever heard of and absolutely couldn’t find your a$$ with both hands in your hip pockets. Now go sit in the corner and if we need any input from you we will let you know. Understand????????????????
Alphare
November 16th, 2011
10:36 pm
Samuel,
it takes 1 game for a UGA fan to pump his chest, and it takes 2 games for him to call for Richt’s head.
Samuel L. Jackson
November 16th, 2011
10:38 pm
So how dominant was UGA when they barely escaped against Vandy??? Oh yeah, and let’s not forget that exhibition of dominance they showed against Florida who is down right awful this year. The only games LSU and Alabama have played and not won by double digit margins was against each other. It’s easy to look at the game Bama/LSU played and think “wow these offenses are terrible, my team can do better than that” until they step between those white lines and reality sets in there is a different caliber of athlete playing for those 2 teams. Again funny!
BIG MIKE
November 16th, 2011
10:53 pm
It’s not who they beat or the score thats impressing me. I’ve seen that before and wasn’t moved.
But this team from the beginning reminded me of the teams of the early ’80’s when the mantra was
“HUNKER DOWN YOU HAIRY DAWGS”. The boys are back to playing ERK RUSSELL style defense and like the early 80’s, have a top notch young offense to go with it. These guys will be competing for a while and this is their coming out year.
The one little difference between their championship year of ‘80 and now is that they Tied Clemson with a last second field goal and beat Florida on an 88 yard pass completion with 1:12 left on the clock to go undefeated. They had more experience and leadership on that team though. This team should have beaten South Carolina, but they weren’t tempered enough at the time to handle the pressure of playing two ten teams right off the bat. On the flip side, the intensity of that part of their schedule helped to mold them into the team they are now. Next year DAWG fans will be rewarded with something that’s been missing for a long time.
As I said before the season started, the team will grow exponentially throughout this year and will be highly competitive before it’s over mainly because of the defense that’s been absent for a long time, but next year they will be a force to be reconned with. This is a young team and defense is always ahead of the offense on the learning curve.
BIG MIKE
November 16th, 2011
11:02 pm
SAMUEL L.———-YOU’RE DREAMING IF YOU THINK THE ATHLETICISM BETWEEN UGA and LSU/ALABAMA IS THAT LARGE. YOU GO AHEAD AND BASE YOUR ASSESSMENT ON THE SCORES OF THE GAMES PLAYED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STOP UGA FROM BEATING LSU IS UGA. POUND FOR POUND, UGA IS A MORE ATHLETIC TEAM THAN LSU. THAT’S JUST A FACT. LSU HAS MORE EXPERIENCE AND THAT’S A FACT. The real question is: Will UGA fold under the spotlight and pressure or will the experience they’ve gained throughout the year carry them to victory.
Dawg48
November 16th, 2011
11:05 pm
Has any one heard the rumor about Gus mahlzon leaving auburn to be HC at north Carolina?
mike
November 16th, 2011
11:21 pm
Easy solution: I’ll start my own newspaper, vote Georgia as “National Champions”, and the debate is over. Isn’t that how alabama claims several of their championships?