Why Joe Paterno can’t be allowed to coach another game

Amen, Mark Bradley. Great piece on a sobering topic.

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….and to add, “AND WE’LL BE CALLING THE COPS!”

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This is getting uglier the longer it goes on. They are all sick. Yes, even Joe. He should be drummed out of town and not honored in any way.

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If the allegations are true, he was not “having sex” with a 10-year-old. He was raping a 10-year-old.

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If PSU did indeed cover up for this sick freak. They Deserve worse than what SMU got THE DEATH PENALITY!!!!!!!!

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I agree.

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Can’t argue with that although Jay Bookman has, for some reason, brought Auburn and Oregon into his column. Gotta love idiot left wingers.

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A sad tale of woe besets Coach Paterno. This may well be the end of his coaching. But if he goes he should be remembered for all the good he did for Pennsylvania State. Like the four million dollars he gave the University.

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If these allegations are true that this monster did this, everyone that had any hint of this should be terminated immediately. The very thought these kids were savagely attacked is revolting.

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Some of Paterno’s players have been in serious trouble in the past, but all those issues managed to get brushed under the rug (the 15 that busted into an apartment and smashed two peoples heads in with beer steins, etc.) The school (Erie Campus) violated the education act of 65 and 74 back around 87 (in writing federal courthouse Erie) but hired about a dozen law firms to make that go away so they could keep their Federal funding and Join the Big Ten later.
If you knew how some of the staff at PSU Erie have behaved, you wouldn’t wonder how this could happen. You would send your son or daughter somewhere else.
On a further note, if students can’t stop throwing garbage, ice, and urine at the home games, maybe PSU shouldn’t have anymore home games.
Based on what I have recently read, and already knew, I wouldn’t just throw PSU out of the Big Ten, I would throw them out of the NCAA—AND strip them of their Federal funding, along with their Land Grant.

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In the article in the Philadelphia paper, it was said that he brought boys to bowl games and they were put on the official list as “family members”. This seems to be a pretty big red flag right there. He even threatened to send a boy home from a bowl game if he didn’t comply. Sickening, just sickening.

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You are right Bradley, Paterno was the captain of the football program, one of the men he selected as an assistant raped a child within the football complex and a credible witness, who was a grad assistant and is now an assistant coach witnessed the crime. Paterno had an absolute and unquestionable legal and ethical duty to report the incident to law enforcement immediately and assist with their investigation. Even more importantly, he had an absolute moral duty to find out who the child was, make sure the child was properly cared for, and make sure Sandusky never had contact with a child through Penn State again. He should be fired this moment on the spot and told not to set foot on campus ever again.

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Of course there are issues at Penn State. From the look of Spanier, I’d say he’s wearing the same tie his mom laid-out for him to wear when he was 5.

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As a victim of childhood sexual abuse, I just ask one thing. Before you express any opinion about this article read the grand jury report. http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf. I realize that everyone is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, but if you can read this and then still say that any person at Penn State that knew and did not report it to the police themselves or make sure that someone had, should not be fired immediately, then you really don’t understand what being sexually abused as a child does to a person for the rest of their life.

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I love to arm chair detectives and lawyers that come in here. And a few idiots that actually think Paterno was the rapist. Keep up the good work morons.

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@yearofthedawg Well, let’s see. Unless you think Mike Mcqueary is lying (and a detailed and vivid grand jury report makes that impossible in my book), no fewer than five adults knew that Sandusky raped a 10 year old boy in a locker room shower. And none of them did a single thing to ensure he was punished. Everything else is a sideshow.

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I couldn’t have said it better. Excellent piece.

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They are all guilty and stupid!!!!!!!!!!!1

1, The grad asst ex qb who witness him naked in a shower with a young boy in 2002, did he STOP IT shout at him and kick his a$$ no he quietly walked away upset and not call the police but reported it to Joepa who is moron number 2. Did jopa call the police or beat his asst coachs a$$ for molesting young boys no who reported it to the Ad who is moron number 3 no police call and only reported it to the Finance dean who you guessed it did not call police and swept it under the rug.

They all need to go to jail for letting this monster off the hook for 10 more years so he could keep on molesting children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I have more than a few misgivings about the rush to judgment. There is an awful lot we do not know at this point and it seems as though no one wants to wait for facts – suppose they interfere with our rage?
Misgiving #1: Suppose Joe Paterno is concerned about his legacy and not a fool. Clearly the right thing to do is to pursue Sandusky aggressively and distance himself from Sandusky publicly. That protects JoPa’s legacy. A tepid response certainly does not – look at the comments here and elsewhere. There will be books written about this, and if Paterno comes out looking as he does now no one is going to remember the 46 years of coaching, they are going to remember the scandal.
Misgiving #2: Suppose the information Paterno had was weak and uncertain. Suppose he was told an investigation was in progress and action by him would compromise the investigation. Even if this was untrue, he would have been likely to believe it. Criminal justice is not his field.
Misgiving #3: There is a reason pedophilia is difficult to prove. It doesn’t leave a lot of physical evidence. The witnesses are frequently not reliable. The victims have parents who do not want forty reporters camped out on their front lawn pursuing their child.

We just do not know. If some of what is currently reported is true, if Paterno maintained a relationship with Sandusky after the allegations, if he came and went from the athletic facilities there, if Paterno made no follow-up inquiries, then he is done.

But maybe he cut Sandusky dead. Maybe he did follow up and was told a) the matter was resolved or b) there had been a terrible mistake made and Sandusky was actually innocent or c) they suspected Sandusky was guilty but lacked evidence; he was being observed and no one should put him on guard or … or… that’s just it. There may be a lot we do not know and can’t guess.

I have been a civilian bystander in at least 5 cases of child abuse, two were cases of sexual abuse. In 2 of the cases I did not understand what was going on until long afterwards. I had suspicions something was not right but never guessed the truth until someone with more information told me. In the third case (a child molested by a teen) the mother refused to call the police. By the time I heard my next door neighbor start beating her kids (not spanking, beating) I knew to call the police. They did absolutely nothing except reveal my identity to my neighbor. In the fifth case, the mother was already a known abuser and under court supervision. The courts chose to leave the children with her. I called the police and they told me there was nothing further to be done, it was “an ongoing investigation.”

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Sad, Sad, Sad…Bowden-Too Long, Woody Hayes-Punches Clemson player, and now this…And Howard Schnellenberger is still smoking his pipe!

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Very disturbing on so many levels – and tons of blame to be shared by many. Getting past the obligatory “alledged incidents” disclaimer, let’s make some reasonable assumptions:

- Sandusky did it, and had been doing it for many years, and others likely knew or had an inkling of it
- His not being promised the HC job when Paterno retired (or likely was carried off the field in a coffin) was due to Penn State’s belief in his misbehavior

First off, the grad assistant who walked in on Sandusky sodomizing a 10 yr old left the room and talked with his family first and THEN called JoePa. Are you kidding? What reasonably moral person wouldn’t run up to Sandusky, pull him away from the boy, and then kick him as hard as possible in the area that would prevent him from ever repeating that despicable act???

Second, JoePa apparently reported the incident to the AD, but not with specifics??? Was that because the grad ass’t didn’t give him details of the attack? Or did JoePa intentionally leave those facts out to protect Sandusky, hoping it all would quietly go away? Or was he just honestly too senile to even know what was going on?

Let’s face it, the grad assistant is not taking nearly enough flak here – he’s still working for JoePa at Penn State, but has to go NOW!

Here’s who has to go at Penn State…………EVERYONE.

They cancelled a press conference today. The real reason I believe is that they know that JoePa is just not capable of handling these types of questions at his advanced age and diminished mental capacity – it would only get much worse for the school. They have no choice but to force his immediate retirement – many people wish he could coach out the year to walk away with his dignity….he lost all of that about 10 years ago. He not only covered up a horrendous crime then, he’s been covering it up every day since!

Very sad ending to a distinguished career. Most people only remember Woody Hays for throwing a punch at Charlie Baumann, not his career and all he did for so many years.

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again,for many years in many locales something even worse happened in the catholic church and folks didnt sound out enough about that at all certainly not with the rhetoric printed here. arch bishop and pope got less scrutiny than joe pa has and it is proven they were aware and let monster priests continue in the catholic church. let the evidence come up before making stories up which is what most of this is conjecture. it took three years of investigation by trained authorities and we all should feel joe pa should have known all along?

yes, joe pa stayed too long but it was at the wealth of the penn state program that got noticed each saturday nationwide as joe chased a ghost. let spanier walk before joe pa. it is too easy to be betrayed in life or not know some of what even your closest of loved ones have done until it is too late. joe pa did right by moving the investigation to people he trusted and they blew it and were incompetent but he shouldnt take the punishment for that, only spanier their boss should go right now.

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The grad assistant case is interesting. I heard him getting accused of cowardice this afternoon by a certain local sports talk host. It sure looks like cowardice to me, but the the sports talk guy took it a step further by boasting about what HE would have done. The sad truth is that none of us know what we would have done. The thought process isn’t difficult to imagine. You see a horrible crime being committed, you know what you ought to do, but the combined weight of the authority of the figure you’d be accusing and the institution you’d be challenging and the thought of your career and the worry that you wouldn’t be able to prove your accusation makes you hesitate. We hope to God we’d be brave and decent enough not to hesitate, for the sake of the victim, but we’d never know until we were there whether we’d be cowards or not. That’s part of the scariness of it. That’s why these laws that require reporting of abuse are such a good thing. They take contemplating the consequences out of the equation. All the matters is the welfare of the victim.

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Mark, I heard Coach Paterno has stepped down. Offensive Coordinator Chris Smith-Ellis is the new Penn State head coach. Heard anything?

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Joe should have called 911, not the AD.

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Sorry MB, apparent false info or hoax. Many apologies.

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Another pedophile wrapping himself in a religious veil to do reprehensible things to children. Disgusting!

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Good column Mark and agree that Joe Pa should go and the quicker the better. The man was head coach at PSU when I attended my first Ga. Tech game against them in 1966. He has been MR. PENN STATE forever and he should’ve known everything.

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It sounds like a lot of you live in your own little bubble. JoePa can’t know everything just as any other coach can’t know what every player, booster, or parent is doing that is on or associated with his team. Contrary to popular opinion Mark you can’t just go to the police with hearsay information and make an accusation. Police do not arrest or start investigations on hearsay and you get sued for that. He has already testified to the grand jury that what he was told by the grad assistant contained no specific details about what the grad assistant saw, and he reported it to his superiors. At the time Sandusky did not work for him or the school so JoePa had no supervisory role to play with him. The grad assistant should have intervened at the time of the incident and when Sandusky “woke up” the police would have been there already. Maybe JoePa did check on the incident later to see what was going on. If the two superiors above him covered it up they may have misled JoePa about what their investigation uncovered. If so they hung him out to dry and he is catching all this flack from all of you for something where he did what he should have done and maybe more. We don’t know, but instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt until the facts are known you’ve already run him out of town. Typical mob mentality. Maybe it is time for JoePa to move on but until I learn more about the facts of this incident it would not be because of this.

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Is Patern’s son a vegatarian..??? I say no…

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say it aint so joe

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Joe Paterno and the whole Penn State leadership, including the President need to go immediately. Sandusky in shower with 10 year old boy, 40 counts of child molestation dating back 15 years….are you kidding me! Makes me wonder what the NCAA is going to do, given they are all over the hard core crimes of selling jerseys and receiving complimentary tat’s….

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Joe Paterno can no longer coach.

Mark Bradley can no longer write.

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I have not seen anyone ask the question if Paterno was also involved with this type of activity with young kids and would not speak up for fear of being investigated himself.

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paterno is a god.
he did not rape anybody
he should coach for 10 more years
end of story

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I can’t believe any responsible adult could say that if JoPa goes “he should be remembered for the $4 million he gave the university”. I have always been a quiet, thoughtful poster who doesn’t flame anybody, but this poster, who calls himself, “watsgindown” is an absolute idiot.

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this is such a non-story.

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I don’t know about you folks, but I have 3 children and I KNOW exactly what I would have done had I happened upon this incident in the shower. I would have killed the SOB right there. No questions, no excuses nothing. This is just beyond disgusting.

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Mark: I totally agree with you. There is a legal responsibility and a moral one. Paterno failed on the more important of the two.

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Fine piece of writing, Mark. By these events this Irishman gives kudos to his Scot,Gaelic-brother, Edmund Burke who famously said over 200 years ago: “the only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world, is for good men to do nothing”.
I don’t pretend to know if Joseph Paterno was a good man – by all accounts he was (otherwise, I must add), but he did nothing, and evil was visited upon 8 or more vulnerable youths.

At 5:42 watsgindown posted that he should be remembered for the $4 million dollars he gave the university. Where did this pseudo-human receive his education in human values? (I’ll bet he thinks Bernie Madoff has “suffered enough”!)

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The people, like “SEC” must either not have children or not have morals. The coach abused young boys. He is scum, and so are the enablers like the VP, AD, and yes, Paterno– for allowing it to go on. This was not “hearsay,” a coach witnessed an act of sodomy! By law, you are required to report this to the police– not some self-serving Ad or VP.

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Good read Marky boy. Got a chuckle from your picture caption.

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Mark…..as a professional sports writer, that had to be one of the most difficult articles any sports writer had to pen.

Sometimes it is not all champagne and rose parades.

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@SEC….Excuses, excuses. The veil has been lifted on St. Joe. I won’t go into the many fallacies of your post. I’m too lazy, but if you’re honest with yourself, you will see them.

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notduckytoday
November 8th, 2011
7:32 pm

OH M GEE. YES – Joe Paterno should have called the police. So should have the TWENTY EIGHT YEAR OLD MAN who witnessed it! So should the janitor who witnessed the other incident. So should have every mother who confronted Sandusky about her child’s uncomfortable feelings. Why is Joe the sole scapegoat here?? A 28 year old is capable of 1) STOPPING THE RAPE OF A CHILD 2) Telling the police instead of his father or a coach. GOD.

Yes, they are all responsible…INCLUDING joe pa…..

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Everyone should read the Grand Jury report from Susan’s insert on page 1. If you can read these and not realize that this “House of Cards” HAD” to fall, is just being moronic. Sandusky should never see the light of day AGAIN. Paterno has to go as well, because he remains a “cancer” now at a school that never again will be respected in OUR lifetimes!
Nice article, MB.

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It looks like Mark Richt may still have a coaching job this time next year, assuming he doesn’t mind Pennsylvania, the State with the UGLIEST Women in the Union.

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Folks, I am reporting to you, right now, that Atlanta is one of the leading sex trafficking cities in the USA. If you didn’t know, now you do. So, it has been reported to you. You live here. What are you personally going to do? Maybe donate your time or money to a YMCA, or Boy and Girls Club, consider fostering or adoption? Nah, you’ll pontificate on a story you know very little about.

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Thank God for Richt & Johnson ..win are lose.

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Paterno DID absolutely know in 2002. How come he didn’t wonder why he wasn’t in prison…he did wonder that and he didn’t care. He should have wanted him in prison instead Paterno let Sandusky continue to rape children and use Penn State’s facilities.

Paterno let Sandusky continue to rape children.

If it was my kid I would want to kill them both.

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I am fairly certain that Paterno had a legal responsibility, as well as the obvious moral responsibility, to report this to the police. The young eyewitness apparently put his faith in Paterno to do the right thing. Paterno should have escorted the eyewitness to the police first and reporteded the incident to his internal chain of command second. Paterno failed the eyewitness, himself, the victim, the victims yet to come, and what the University is supposed to stand for(Honor, Integrity, etc). Paterno’s football career and reputation are of no concern or importance. If the accussations leveled at Paterno are accurate he should be fired immediately. PSU should send a message to coaches and anyone entrusted with the safety and well-being of children. PSU dont make the same mistake Paterno did, dont fail these victims again. The country is watching.

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I’m not up on the facts (from other sources) yet, but from what I read here I do not see a case to dump on Joe Paterno at this point. Child predators are all around us; I used to work in a small business where a Senior Executive was charged and convicted of statuatory rape of his babysitter. There is no “magic button” to just wish them away with – they have Constitutional rights, too, and even if charged and convicted they quite often reenter society, either on probation, parole, or after serving out their term. Sandusky being “around” may actually prove nothing about someone else’s potential misconduct for failure to act. It sounds like the 1998 incident led Paterno to report the issue to superiors and get Sandusky off the staff. Perhaps there was nothing else he could have done without exposing the University to legal action.

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Hey Mark, since in at least some indirect way you are profitting from this story by having us morons post onto this webpage, please reply for all to see that you are making a financial donation to a charity of your choice to reduce future sexual abuses. We’re waiting.

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You people trying to defend Paterno are just making yourselves look like idiots. You obviously do not have kids of your own (thank goodness). Now slink away and let the grown-ups do the talking.

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JoePa probably doesn’t even know the names of all his coaches, he thought he retired 10 years ago.

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Hey Kat, I think Mark is writing what he has read or heard from other sources. More than that, he is making a public judgement.

Mark – if you have personally interviewed anybody directly connected with this story, please enlighen us.

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“Perhaps there was nothing else he could have done without exposing the University to legal action.”
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DawgDad, did you really think through that last sentence? I’m sure you didn’t mean to imply that exposing PSU to legal action was more important than preventing the future rape of children.

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This is very disturbing. Allowing any person much less a coach to be around young people who are capable of defending themselves. The entire retirement of Sandusky was odd and many reported back then that there was some underlining issues with the program and Sandusky was being forced out. Well we know why now.

Onto Joe Paterno, he has been a fine representative for College Football, but we must all face the facts, he stayed in college football to get the all times win record and he was afforded that when Bobby Bowden was forced out at FSU. Joe Paterno was actually greedy and self serving for staying on. The program at PSU has suffered the past few years and now we know that the problems were festering under the roof of the athletics department.

Joe Paterno does not need to be roasted for his actions, as he did what he was supposed to do, he reported the incident to his boss, removed him from the staff. What he should be roasted for is turning his head to a person who he knows hurt children and youngsters. Joe Paterno should be roasted and popped for allowing a know criminal back into the PSU facilities. Joe Paterno should be roasted for not pressing with his bosses about why Sandusky had not been reported criminally.

Joe Paterno will be allowed to coach on Saturday and we will all watch after the game as he announces his immediate retirement. He wants to hear that crowd cheer him one more time and absorb the love that many will afford him as an elderly statesman.

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I see/read that I’m in the minority here. I don’t see that this reflects much on Joepa. HUGELY on Penn State leadership but not on the head football coach…..in MY opinion. We all have one right?

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I read the entire indictment and yes, I do have kids; 2 of them….boys in fact. The way I see it, just my opinion and point of view mind you, is that the grad asst reported saw something that would disturb anyone, or should, and talked first to his Dad about it and then reported it directly to his boss – followed the chain of command as would be expected. I seriously doubt most folks would do any differently. Heck, you see videos all over the web and read stories all the time about things like this where people see something happening right in front of them and for whatever reason choose not to get involved or take any action at all. At least the grad asst did SOMETHING. Then Joepa reported what he’d been told to HIS superior. I think he did what he should have done. By that time, the monster (aks Sandusky), was no longer on the football staff (he’d retired and only had ties to the university via his emeritus status according to the indictment and contrary to katherine) no one involved reported to Joepa in any way. So, he told his boss and I think it’s reasonable that he relied on THEM (the AD, the university’s VP of Business, the university president) to do THEIR job. I think head coaches have enough to deal with and worry about. I think folks are adding things onto this coaches plate that he never agreed to take on and should not be held accountable for. He’s NOT the university president; the caption is in jest. Admittedly, he’s a major figure head for the university but beyond being the head football coach, nothing more than that, just a figure head.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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Mark, You’re so full of crap. You need to go from the AJC.

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A friend of mines daughter was with a group partying at a house that some of the boy’s had broken into while the home owner was on vacation. This group did over $10,000 in damage. The daughter didn’t even know the house was broken into but the law said she was just as guilty as the ones that did the actual invasion. Each kid’s parent’s had to pay $1500 and the kid’s had 200 hours each of community service.
Paterno is just as guilty as the guy that did it. The entire athletic department, Paterno the AD and the President knew about it and and did nothing. Because of this the abuse continued for years ON Penn State property THERE IS NO EXCUSE AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AND LOSE THEIR PENSION. GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION.

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@Dawgman, I was wondering the same thing about the NCAA. I mean, to me at least this is much worse than anything that went on at Ohio State, Miami or USC. But I’ve been reading that the NCAA doesn’t consider this under their jurisdiction. I’m not going to pretend to understand their jurisdiction but if this isn’t lack of institutional control I don’t know what is.

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All are Guilty By Association . If I was in the crowd and Paterno was on the side line all I would do is boo. Every official who knew about it should be prosecuted and lose their pension.

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@Lake

I’ll accept that. As a human being he should have done more. But that has nothing to do with him being the head football coach at Penn State. So why fire him for not doing more. As I said also though, there are videos all over the web and stories all over the news about attrocities that happen in plane view and witnessed by dozens of people that do NOTHING for whatever reason. Do we say those people should get fired from their jobs? No, we say they’re idiots! Question is, what would we do in the same situation? I’d LIKE to say I’d do something. I’m pretty sure I would. But, I’ve never been put in that situation, thankfully. And I hope I never do because I’m afraid of what I WOULD do to a monster like Sandusky if I caught him in the act.

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November 8th, 2011
8:40 pm

I’ve heard and watched Jim Tressel and those like him excuse themselves for not knowing about violations their players and assistants engaged in. These were adults steering high school and college students astray with offers of cash and cars and other enticements to attend their universities or reap rewards for performance.

Paterno’s assistant is accused or raping a 10 year old which was supposedly witnessed by a graduate assistant. He reported to Paterno who reported to the athletic director and president. Paterno choosing to let it go at that is nothing short of aiding and abetting the chance of child molestation.

What if the charges were not true? Who in their right mind could let this go without getting to the bottom of the issue before signing off completely on it?

JoPa may have helped enable a child rapist to continue his predatory ways another dozen years!

This makes breaking NCAA rules for recruiting or player enticements look like small potatoes. Jim Tressel is a saint compared to Jo Pa!

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“Mark Bradley

November 8th, 2011
7:56 pm”

“The grad assistant was one of the few people who tried to do the right thing.”

Really Mark? “did the right thing”?

That’s funny because my interpretation of doing the “right thing” would not be to walk away as a grown man rapes a child without intervening in and stopping the situation right then and there with whatever means necessary to ensure that vile piece of garbage did not inflict further harm to that little boy.

Really? Maybe you shuld rephrase that.

McQueary should be tried to the fullest extent of the law for being a morally devoid coward.

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@James

Fair enough. I’ll posit that he should be fired because he is an icon that represents PSU and has brought shame to the university. Also, he is in a leadership position at a public school and his ethics should be beyond reproach. That is what is required. PSU can’t be forced to fire him, but if they don’t, it says a lot about that institution.

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That is just it. Nobody wants to open their eyes. Look at parents today. They are just sorry or they overprotect and think their kids do no wrong. These kids were at risk kids. They undoubtedly got no raising and then were subjected to this crap.

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Good article Mark. Let paterno coach for he last time in “not so” happy valley. Then, let him retire on Monday. He deserves that. Put Sandusky in a deep-dark hole and don’t let him out.

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Mark – I just have one question / comment concerning the focus on JP and his “Moral” responsibility to do something more than alert the officials on up the ladder of command – as in calling the cops himself and following up on the case. What part – if any does the alledged witness – Mike McQueary play in this sortid tale of what happened and what should have happened? Why isn’t his name being called out in this media frenzy to clean house at PS and right the ship? Didn’t he have the same moral obligation that JP had to report to higher-ups and then follow up? I’m not saying JP is OK in all of this – I’m just wondering about the other “player” in this “cover-up” and why all the focus is only on JP.

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Michael – All walks of life have these fools in it. What is sad are sorry parents that don’t give their kids the guidance, the love and the discipline they need. Their parents should be their role models.

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Fan of the Game, you are spot on about the NCAA and its member institutions. I don’t know how much longer I’m going to care about college football. It’s a shame, because its always been a love of my life since childhood.

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And all of Auburn breathes a collective sigh of relief.

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It took 8+ years to get from the assault in the shower to where we are know. Can’t we give Paterno a few more days to give his side of the story?!

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I’m reading a lot of mob justice here. Only been in 1 traumatic situation in my life (never having served in active military) and it wasn’t anything CLOSE to see what McQueary saw. But, I have to say, when a person sees something that’s so heinous that it’s hard to conceive, the brain can and DOES prevent it from being processed because it’s SOOOOOO outrageous. Both McQueary and a janitor on another date, according to the indictment, witnessed the the piece of crap known as Sandusky doing the same thing to 2 different little boys. Neither did anything to stop the act. Both were significantly, emotionally distraught about what they saw and sought out the counsel of others as to what to do about it. I don’t think the “do nothing” reaction is as rare as most people here seem to think.

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JoePa is a senile fool and his all-time wins record is a joke. How can he have the most wins when he hasn’t coached in over 10 years? It’s this same self-serving attitude that prevented him from reporting this incident to the police, and thus, allowing his program to avoid scandal so he could remain head coach.

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SPOT ON MARK! BRAVO! Paterno is just as much a slime as the pedophile! May he go down in flames!

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JoePa is a senile fool and his all-time wins record is a joke. How can he hold the wins record when he hasn’t coached in over 10 years? This same selfish attitude is why he didn’t report this incident to the police.

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Someone explain to me how JoPa has the record for most wins? He hasn’t coached in over 10 years. What a selfish jerk.

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Lakedawg – I agree. I love college football, but I am sick and tired of kids smoking marijuana and being suspended just one game, LSU QB beats the crap out of a guy and he is a hero Sat. night.,
the taunting, grade fixing and all the other crap. College football is getting away from the student athlete. Then you have coaches that do this crap. But oh yea where are we in the BCS? To many that is all that matters and it shows.

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@”Sick Sick Sick” Your history analogy is silly, even for a sports page comment. This isn’t anything like the holocaust. More like the Salem witch trials.

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Way to go, Mark!! You tell it like it is!!

Good article!!!

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Hummon

November 8th, 2011
6:31 pm

“The sad truth is that none of us know what we would have done.”

You see a fully grown man trying to push in the stool of a 10 year old boy and you wouldn’t know what to do?

What a freaking girly man!

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SusanH
November 8th, 2011
6:02 pm

As a victim of childhood sexual abuse, I just ask one thing. Before you express any opinion about this article read the grand jury report. http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf. I realize that everyone is to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, but if you can read this and then still say that any person at Penn State that knew and did not report it to the police themselves or make sure that someone had, should not be fired immediately, then you really don’t understand what being sexually abused as a child does to a person for the rest of their life.
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I read it. Every word.

It's remarkable to me the slack given to mere football coaches. This man's conduct cried out for thorough investigation and yet little was done.

Sadly, there likely are many more victims out there.

I still want to see the legal process play itself out where Paterno is concerned, but this is some terribly disturbing and infuriating stuff.

Sandusky would be a dead man if he did something like that to my child. A dead man.

If he in fact did what he's accused of, i hope someone gives him what he would richly deserve.

And no, i don't apologize for feeling that way.

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I know what i would have done….

Taken a chair to the side of his head, followed by a call to the cops.

Not hard to figure out.

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In the end here, we’re talking about a stupid game.

And we treat these boneheads like gods….

What a sad statement about us all…..pathetic.

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Larry, I’d know what to do and I sure hope I would do it. I’d consider it a huge moral failing if I didn’t. What I’m saying is that it’s easy for a radio host to sit in a studio and shoot his mouth off about what he would or wouldn’t have done in a particular situation, a situation he wasn’t actually in.

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Paterno said he reported it to the president and its plain he did nothing except demote him on the staff. After Paterno reported it to him and he seen nothing was being done, he should have went to the authorities with it. If you see someone doing a crime and do nothing about it, YOU ARE JUST AS, OR MORE GUILTY AS THE ONE DOING IT! ITS A SICK PREDATOR THAT NEEDS LAURANA BOBBIT TO GET A HOLD OF HIS MAN HOOD!

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I take back what I said about McQueary. I just read the indictment and found out he was 28 years old! He is just as culpable as JoePa and everyone else.

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Mark, apparently in journalistic cirlces there were rumors about Sandusky. Did you know that? If no, why not? If yes, why didn’t you investigate it?

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Screw football.

Double screw records and anything like that.

Several little boys’ lives have been unalterably RUINED by Sandusky, AKA Scumbag with the complicity of Joe Paterno, AKA another Scumbag, and any others that didn’t fight to the death for those kids.

Sadly and tragically, this sometimes leads to a legacy of duplication by the victims, thus, the continuation of the tragic circle. Sandusky was warped into his monster state- possibly by another monster in his childhood.

Now, he, with the aid of Joe Paterno may have continued the chain.

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Fire FG…

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So, for all you moral crusaders, just what should happen to Joe? 10 years in the pen? 20? 30? What? Just resign from PSU?? I thought you said he was complicit in the rape of a child.

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Bring back JP!

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birds of a feather flock together,makes me wonder??

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Charlie Daniels’ “Simple Man”
“find a big tall tree and a short piece of rope– hang him up high and let him swing ’til the sun goes down”

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What I find interesting, it the guy who alerted Joe is still in the program. I do agree that as the head coach, he should know everything, but the man is 84, and he was 73 when all this went down, so his intellectual ability to know “everything” was gone a long time ago.

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Too bad Sandusky didn’t try to ply his trade in South Georgia back when I was growing up. We might have been little boys, but we knew where d1ngdongs weren’t supposed to go, and we’d have beat his d1ngdong with a baseball bat until it fell off.

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Johnnycash, you are right.

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First of all – we have no idea why Paterno told Sandusky he would not be the next coach in 1998. To make the assertion that it’s b/c Joe Pa did it b/c he knew of the actions is not even close to being reasonable assumption.

2. The DA chose not to press charges against Sandusky in 1998. Are we going to throw the DA in this blame game as well?

3. Paterno testified that in 2002 the GA came to him but didn’t mention anything specific. He gave the info to the chain of command as he should have. What was he supposed to do – go to the cops and tell them one of his GA looked upset but didn’t provide specifics? Not only that , but it is my understanding that PSU contacted the 2nd Mile (who was responsible for the boy) to let them know there might be some issues. Why are we not throwing them under the bus?

4. Mark – I love your writing but your claim that we should cut the GA slack and your reason why is one of the most idiotic statements I’ve ever read in mainstream journalism. If anything, he had the most responsibility to alert the authorities b/c he actually witnessed it! Based on your comments should I now assume Joe Pa controls the police in PA too?

The current state is – none of us know what actually happened and who knows what. So why don’t we wait a little bit and let the facts come out before we try to ruin so many lives? The media should be ashamed of themselves for trying to ruin careers and lives before the full truth is told.

I’m so impressed by the morality of anonymous people on the internet and the media. What a wonder world it would be if I had your moral compass.

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Joe

You look a lot like me…..I can not sleep nor will you

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Someone needs to be indicted. The key piece of information is what did the grad student, McQueary tell Paterno in what he saw. If his grand jury testimony is that he saw the rape and he stated anything remotely close to what he saw to Paterno, then Joe needs to go to jail. If McQueary failed to really report what he saw to JP, then he’s the one that’s gotta go.

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It is sad to think the JoPa would have been better off retiring in 1998. I think he is a great man, coach, and representative of Penn State…

…until now. Clearly some sort of cover up has taken place for someone that JoPa knew for what 35+ years?

I think the cover up is wrong–almost as wrong as the things that have allegedly taken place. But before all of you that are so quick to pass judgement do so…ask yourself: Have you known anyone for 35+ years? If so…if they wanted to hide something from you, could they have? I know that there are children involved but surely all of you with your black and whit moral code would have at least thought twice about ruining a lifelong friend–even if they brought it on themselves.

JoPa is a good man…even if he was presented with an impossible situation and chose wrong.

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Good article Mark.

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And yes, Mark. Very good article.

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Mark, lots of questions. Why did the Grad Student go to the police? Why did the mother who confronted Sandusky go to the media and police? Did she? Did they cover it up too? Why did it take years for the DA to bring this to light? If this is so open and shut, are they as culpable? Finally, is it does firing jopa answer these questions? Bottom line, this goes way way beyond a guy a 70 year old guy being able to comprehend and completely understand everything that was happening. Sure, fire guy to prove he should have retired a long time ago, but this is far bigger than that.

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great article! Don’t agree with you on your Gator Bashing, but on this one, you’re dead on!! Paterno is bigger than any AD or President at penn state, and should have brought this thing to a head years ago when he filed the report. He failed not only the fans, players and public, but his own family and children if he truly knew about this stuff and was covering it up to protect Sandusky. No amount of wins in your career can make up for something this vile or sick. His legacy is shot, and penn state will be in shambles for years to come. Not only the athletic program, but the school as well. I surely wouldn’t want to send my kids there

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a lot of facts are being overlooked and many facts unknown assumed. terribly irresponsible stuff here where joe pa is hangwd for superiors misdeeds. he was not as ppwerful say as the ohiocstate coach who really lied and took things ubder his own wing

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Great artcle Mark. If there is evicence that the allegede molestation occured prior to the GAs Sugar Bowl loss to them would the NCAA consider vacating that victory?

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I DO NOT KNOW HOW IN THE WORLD THE PENN STATE CROWD AND PATERNO ACTUALLY THOUGHT THIS WOULD BLOW OVER BEFORE NEBRASKA AND THAT ALL WOULD BE JUST HUNKY DORY. PATERNO NEEDS TO BE RAN OUT ON A RAIL..L O S E R AND SORRY #SS LUNATIC FOR EVEN THINKING HE DID HIS PART

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As a player…how do you walk out of that tunnel with the coaching staff on Saturday?

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“if Jerry Sandusky had remained a footnote in Penn State’s athletic annals,”

Nice wording Mark.

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Joe has to go if you want the truth to come out.He has to come down from his ivory covered tower first.I’m sick of hearing how great a man he is.If he was a great man he would have called the police and made sure this jerk would never do this crap again.Instead Joe enabled sandusky to do this horrible things to these boys.I’ve had enough of papa Joe.

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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

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Mike Vick > JoPa

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Read the PDF file that SusanH attached to her post. Sandusky is a sick, twisted, predatory pedophile who was allowed to use the facilities at Penn State as his lair. Anyone associated with Penn State who didn’t immediately report his criminal behavior to the police should be fired….Paterno included.

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This is not a football program issue. This is an issue for the police and the courts. The NCAA will have nothing to do or say on the matter. Any moron looking for sanctions or the death penalty will be and should be deeply disappointed. It ain’t gonna happen. War Eagle! Beat the hell out of Ugger.

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wawel78

November 8th, 2011
10:33 pm

YOu definintely need to get your moral compass from somewhere else, so why knock people on the internet? You certainly seem like you don’t have one.

Joe Pa knew of the investigation in ‘98

Joe Pa was told of a incident in a shower with another underage person and his friend – he may have not known he was getting raped, but lets let old age senility prevend him from being responsible.

Joe Pa told him of his fate in ‘98 for *some* reason. Intelectuals will have a hard time believing becase he thought he would outlive Sandusky(sic).

Joe Pa certainly knew he was bringing young boys along to his bowl appearances.

Yes the GA should be held accountable – completely – and should no longer be employed by the university. In his defense, Joe Pa IS the chain of command of the football program and is directly responsible for everything that happens under it’s precipe.

I find it rather sickening that you will defend this at all. I’m not saying it’s *criminal* either. But I certainly would blast that old man out face to face, and wouldn’t trust him with the best intrests of my children over his own, that’s for sure.

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What Sandusky did was despicable, criminal, and insane. There is no argument. While I don’t find Paterno’s actions or inactions forgivable, these situations are much more complex than the melodrama that you make of it. I am willing to let the whole story come to light, before I start hurling stones at Paterno. Maybe he loses his job and maybe rightly so, but to tarnish the man’s entire career in this way is the equivalent of a lynch mob mentality. I am sure everyone would like to believe they would have done the exact right thing in Paterno’s situation, but the truth is we don’t know exactly what Paterno’s situation was.

Sandusky is obviously a very sick man who cannot control himself and wishes himself dead. Paterno deserves the respect of letting the whole story get sorted out before being bashed in the head with a stone.

BTW Mark Bradley, Schultz wrote this same story a day before you did. You could have at least added something.

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A terrible, terrible, situation. What if Sandusky is innocent? Then would Paterno be ruining Sandusky’s reputation? That had to go through his mind when he reported the event to the authorities. He had to be wondering what was going on here. In either event, he should resign because he is culpable or because he can no longer align himself with an institution that does not appropriately respond to these allegations.

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I was always an ardent fan of Joe Paterno but this is a despicable, unforgivable and criminal matter. Those cards flipped to the center of the table, let me know when the ilk of the SEC – Saban, Chizik, Petrino, Spurrier, Nutt, and the rest of those pillars of society – come close to supplanting Joe at the top of the all-time victory list.

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I can’t understand why Mike McQueary did not break go into the shower and kick Sandusky’s a_ _.
Going home to call his father – WHAT?

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Joe Paterno didn’t do anything wrong, he did what he was supposed to. The article really should be why is this hack still allowed to write articles.

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This is what happens when coaches become more important and powerful than college presidents. Sad day for the young men that were abused. Football is a game, not real life. All of the PSU leaders should be fired at least. The lawsuits and huge settlements that will follow, will be well earned and I have no respect for Joe Pa regardless of his record wins. He is just an old man who did not understand when it was time to step aside and I say that as a 68 year old.

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This was the act allegedly witnessed by Mike McQueary, then a grad assistant and now Penn State’s recruiting coordinator. GOOD LUCK GOIN INTO THE HOMES OF YOUNG MEN NOW MCQUEARY!!!!!

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All of a sudden, illegal drug usage at UGA is not so bad

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Well stated and I agree. Hard to defend Joe Pa.

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Hard to believe, but yes Auburn, it does get worse than you

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Penn State and Joe Pa lost their legacy as the upstanding pillar of college football when they sold out to Nike and put the swoosh on their uniforms. To hell with both of them and this hypocritical BS.

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I bet Jackie Sherrill and Barry Switzer never aided and abetted a pediphile, huh?

I hope his butt goes to the pokey . . .

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most coaches i ser or have played for arr narcisditic godlike creatures that have a sadistic bent in them. why should they be expected to be above the criwd when you realky look at what they do each day? they are expected to win at any cost and that is how they compartmentalize what they do. how cpuld anyone of sane mind continue to be a part of a sporr that puts all of its participantsin risk of serious head injury that is now known to be true starting at the youngest age and the total effects not seen for years. why do we even encourage people and youth to use their heads as bludgeons? so we can feel better at work on monday and go n with our lives. folks you are the problem that go and support violent sports not joe pa.he is an accesory to your own crime you now project on him. that is something to really look deep unto.

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@ FL Dawg

If it wasn’t part of the story and so hypocritical it wouldn’t be mentioned. Did you read about the faith based charity he started to lure the young boys? Its as germane as JOPA’s culpability.

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Mark, your damnation is somewhat overwhelming for someone who is not close to Penn State. We can all read the grand jury report and be sickened by the allegations and the way it was handled. The board of trustees is hard at work to implement a fire sale with the entire administration and athletic department. Allow, them time to do their job before you start calling for the head of coach Joe Paterno. For a man that has been the head coach 46 years with ZERO NCAA investigations and has raised not only his own kids but his players and his players kids, he deserves the benefit of the doubt to explain himself. As a 2003 alum and letterwinner, I assure you JoePa did the right thing! At this point the details are vague and he is not being allowed to speak on the matter. If and when we here his side of the story and what exactly happened then press judgement, but you cannot prosecute Paterno at this point by calling an end to his time as head coach based of a one-sided report. Dont get my wrong, calling for the punishment of Sandusky, Spanier, Scultz and Curley are warranted, especially in Sandusky’s case seen there are numerous witness reports.

Remember Joe never saw these accusations in person. It would have been up to Mike McQueary to report it directly to police as he was the one that witnessed the event. Joe could do no more than instruct Mike to call the police based on what he saw. Joe could have only then spoken with Sandusky on these allegations, which may have alluded to forcing him out in 1999.

I am shocked by the entire scandal and it really stinks, especially due to the innocent children involved. As a father, grandfather and coach to many, I assure you Joe did not turn a blind eye to such a crime. I ask that you not let your emotions convict a man who has stood his entire life for good based on information that has yet to be presented!!

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figures,

Show me the evidence where any priest had anything to do with this or even knowledge of this.
Anyone can start a faith-based charity. Where is your evidence? You’d better have some before implying something like this.

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Count our blessings? So, the other 118 football programs (excluding PSU) have pediphiles on their staffs too? Only Coach Richt’s staff doesn’t?

That’s a ridiculous take on this discusting story.

I just wonder why the 28 yr old student-assistant and the janitor didn’t literally jump on Sandusky’s ass when witnessing up close him having sex with 10 yr old boys. I would have picked up something heavy and beat him in the head until he quit moving.

Unbelievable.

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Good article Mark………..I agree, Joe Paterno should not coach again at Penn State. He should have been out years ago based on the news that is coming out.
And Penn State has a “statue” of him erected? What are they going to do with that?

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@ FL

Read the article or the transcript. Here it is since you missed it.
In 1977 Sandusky founded a charity called The Second Mile, named after a verse from the Gospel according to Mathew, to provide aid and comfort to troubled boys. In the second paragraph of the grand-jury presentment is this chilling sentence: “It was within The Second Mile program that Sandusky found his victims.”

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If I had seen what that 28 year old student-assistant and janitor saw Sandusky doing, I would have taken anything I could find and beat him in the head until he quit moving.

What is it with Penn State employees? Do they all think a 50-something man having anal and oral sex with 10 year olds just an event to tell one’s boss about?

Unbelievable.

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The first thing I would have done if I were coach Paterno would have asked Mike McQueary to take a polygraph test. Then I would have asked Sandusky to take one. This doesn’t make sense. If indeed the allegations are true, they need to find a jail cell next to Bernie where they can all spend their remaining years together. I’m talking about everyone from Joe on down. This makes me sick!

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PSU2003, okay you get the “Ogre of the Day” award. You probably think all those Catholic priests got a bad rap also, too.

You make me sick.

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McQueary take the poly and it can all be resolved quickly!!!!

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I just hope everyone at Penn State involved in this realizes that they are morally, if not legally, culpable for every child that Sandusky raped or molested since 1998, or at least 2002.

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Does anyone recall the GT/PN State game in the Gator Bowl that PN State won over Bobby Dodd? I do and it was rough. 1965 or 66?

Now, UGA alumus. We lost to PN State and CBS’s Todd Blackledge in NC game in Sugar Bowl and that hurt far more than the Gator Bowl thing.

Always had high regard for PN State but never bought in to the Joe Pa is wonderful narrative. Now i am glad. He is creepy.

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Let me get this straight:

McQueary sees the attack.
McQueary tells Paterno, but doesn’t go into details out of respect for Paterno.
Paterno alerts the administrators.

How is Paterno at fault here? He didn’t even know the facts! And how do you call the cops based on what someone told you, that you didn’t see yourself?

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Don’t forget, Paterno is OLD school. He is 84 now, 75 at the time. If you came to him and said “Sandusky was having anal sex with a kid in the shower”, Paterno wouldn’t even know what that meant.

Imagine telling your grandpa at age 80 or so that very sentence, do you think he could comprehend it, or know the seriousness of it? It’s too foreign for that generation of people.

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GT Joe you’re living in la la land. This coach grew up around college athletes. You don’t suddenly lose your mind at 75. If he did he wouldn’t have still been coaching.

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Hey Mark, I would like it if you or one of your colleagues through the normal course of business would ask Mark Richt, given the “known circumstances”, how he would have acted in this situation? Paterno was given the opportunity to become an icon in “Happy Valley”. Just as Bobby Bowden was given the opportunity at FSU. Sometimes, not being the most winningest or the all-time greatest in a category can have its own rewards just by doing the right thing. Bowden, will be remembered as one of the all-time greats as a coach, but also as a man. Mark Richt is well on that path already. Paterno may have sealed his fate outside of his community as a “world class” enabler of the worst kind.

We must used terms like alleged in a time where we don’t have all the facts. We also have to let the judicial system play out, as we’ve seen what happens in cases like the Duke Rape Case. However, this isn’t that. There was something sinister and EVIL going on at Penn State University. You have reports, eye-witness testimony, and many complaintants that came forward as grown men, who claim abuse as children.

The whole thing makes me sick and want to vomit. AND IF THERE IS A HELL, the men who perpetrated these acts and/or condoned them, and/or did nothing to stop it; I hope they find themselves there…AND SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

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“JoePa has never run a dirty program and definitely would not put an assitant above the university no matter what the issue was. ”

He let a suspected child molester (98′ investigation, 2002 eye wtiness account of a child being raped) have unfettered acces(bring kids there) to the Penn State facilities for 10 additional years (up until last week). After Sandusky agreed to no longer share a shower facility with a child (results of 98 investigation.) Explain that JoePa.

If he thought that McQueary was lying in 2002 I don’t think he would have promoted the kid to WR coach and kept him on the payroll. Explain that JoePa.

You are corroect, there probably will be a lot more coming out on this entire thing and it will just get uglier IMO. Why now are these coming to light right after you got the most wins in CF history? Explain that JoePa.

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Give me a break, there have been sexual pervert since the beginning of time. My 80 year old parents would know exactly what was going on. So I guess if someone came to you in a panic and said, Hey GT Joe your 10-year old son and a 50 year old man are naked horsing around in the locker room shower. DUH?? Your response, “Well tell them to make sure to hang up their towels in the right spot when their done.” You’ve got to be kidding me.

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Not saying that JoePa runs a dirty football program. His friendship with Sandusky has ruined his image.

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GT Joe read the damn Grand Jury Report..and get a life.

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jvillebil: in your scenario, i’d go kill the guy. But your scenario is NOT what happened.

If i was JoePa in this situation, I would have alerted the Admins (as he did, to make sure Sandusky doesn’t have access to PSU facilities any more. The admins have that kind of power). I would then tell McQueary to call the cops. MCQUEARY should have called the cops. Not Paterno. Paterno is a witness to nothing. In fact, I don’t even think he would be a witness at a trial, as he would only be reporting hearsay.

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GT Joe, you’re 10:08 post I can agree with. Except he needed to follow up to make sure it was reported. It wasn’t like he didn’t see McQueary around, the kid worked for him and still does.

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Sandusky was on campus last week! If Penn St allows any of these people to retain employment they have major moral issues. Recruits are already jumping ship.

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This is unbelievably disgusting and the abuse of a child is the worst possible crime that can be commited. Bar none. There’s so much blame to go around. Much of it certainly rests with Joe Pa and he should be fired before close of business today. They’ll probably let him coach for the remainder of the season and then wheel him out at the end of the year, but if it were me I’d fire his ass before he could put his false teeth in to attempt an excuse for the inexusable. But the entire administration should be held accountable as well. The mothers also should have followed up with the police when they realized that nothing was being done by Penn State to punish their child’s abuser.

That said, the number one biggest P*SSY in the world (excepting of course Sandusky) is this guy, Mike McQueary. For him to be an adult, be an eye-witness to the raping of a child, and to not immediately walk in the shower and beat the living sh*t out of Sandusky is unforgivable. Then, to sit around for ten years after having witnessed the act and do nothing except collect a paycheck from a university that has tacitly condoned child molestation is the apex of evil. This guy should be prosecuted for the crime of being a coward. The guilty parties will face a punishment far worse after this life is over. It’s stories like this that make me hug my kids a little tighter when I see them. The only thing that would keep me from emptying a clip into these a$$holes would be the fact that my kids wouldn’t have a father around to drive them to therapy.

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VERY SAD WHAT A HORRID THING TO HIDE !!! JOE KNEW “VERY SAD” HIS STATMENT SAYS IT ALL! By telling the AD he just passed the BUCK ! JOE PUT HIMSELF ABOVE PENN ST. THE CHILDREN THEIR FAMILIES AND LIFE ITSELF. PLEASE LET”S REMEMBER ” JOE IS NOT A VICTIM HERE” THERE WILL BE ALOT OF I DID THIS FOR YOU I THIS & I THAT !!!! THE devil COMES IN MANY FACES .

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Retire at end of the end? Really

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Paterno is a witness to nothing….BS GTJOE. Sandusky was on campus and at all games with kids 9-10 years old..was JP blind..No red flag!..going to gym with kids..where was JP? thats BS the man took kids to all games, bowl games spend the night with him and no damn one saw shi!? give me a break..Joe knew it, are is one stupid fool.

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I’m a GT fan …joe that the GT from in front of your name…you make us GT fans look bad…plus u a disgrace to the human race.

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Please get someone to fix the filter are what ever..I’ve post three times and something ate it..thanks

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GT Joe- you’re right, being a coward is not illegal.

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Sane heads need to not move so fast. We don’t want another Duke Lacrosse team type of incidence.

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thank you psu2003 for your most credible post yet on this subject. again i am appaled at mark’s silence as lies and misrepresentations are placed on here that he knows are just that.

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Perhaps vacating the wins since then would be a strong message: You forfet any game where an ineligible player or COACH participates.

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catlady: what coach was ruled ineligible? JoePa has done nothing illegal and won’t face a single charge.

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Joe, I refuse to put the GT in front of your name. You are a disgrace to GT fans and human race. If you love JP thats ok but don’t give me the” for give’ crap and religious stuff..you’re not a authority on that.

Eye for a eye..?
what if that was you son in the shower?

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afan: I’m just responding to the zealots coming on here calling for him to be killed, talking about “evil has many faces, etc”. Not very Jesus-like, eh?

If that was my son: I’d kill Sandusky first. Then I’d kill McQueary for not reporting it to the cops. I wouldn’t fault Paterno, there’s no evidence he knew the extent of what was going on. Not to mention, Paterno was the ONLY ONE WHO DID ACT, by alerting the admins.

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no-one is asking Joe to face charges, just to step down and get the he!! out of the way for Penn State to clear its name and move on. As long as Joe stays, PS will be remembered for child sex abuse and etc.clean house and move on.

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Paterno and the entire P.S. administration should go to jail for this massive cover up. Disgusting is an understatement.

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Joe must go now wow what a shame on Penn .i am speechless .He can not be allowed to choach another game.

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You’re absolutely right on this one Mark. I don’t agree with you all the time, but this one is 100% on the money. If ANYONE associated with the coaching staff back to the time these things happened is allowed to set foot on Penn State’s campus again, then it is an absolute insult to anyone victimized and is basically just raping them again. This is beyond sickening. This is just another piece of evidence that satan is real and evil really exists, for those that want to rationalize everything away. No other context makes sense. God is also real, and while he is merciful, part of that mercy demands justice for those who have suffered.

By the way- Penn State football should get the DEATH PENALTY for a minimum of 3 years. There were way too many people that knew way too much and chose to worship the holy dollar and their own sense of power. Not to mention, NOT PLAYING FOOTBALL is really the only act of atonement that could even come close to apologizing to the victims….and don’t give me a lecture about the ‘poor kids’ who are on Penn State’s team now. Please….you think the NCAA won’t waive their year of sitting out and let them transfer somewhere else the way they did at Baylor?

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PSU2003, the fact that you played for JoePa makes you less credible. You’re an idiot. Read the report Einstein. There is way too much smoke here to know there isn’t fire underneath. I saw your boy Matt Millen fake cry on TV last night and say the same thing you’re saying- wait til the facts come out. Well, we’re waiting… Tick.. Tock.. Tick..

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Gt joe
Penn state told Sandusky that he could no longer bring kids on campus.
So Penn state basically said “if your going to rape little boys your not going to do it here”
And your telling me that joe pa had no idea what was going on?
Dude you are a sick individual!
” WE ARE STATE PENN”

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Ken
November 9th, 2011
11:14 am

Preach, brother, preach!!! I’m with you.

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To you “JoePa” apologists, here’s a scenario”

A teacher witnesses your 10-year old child being raped by another teacher.
The witnessing teacher notifies the principal (JoePa).
The principal notifies the School Board and does nothing else.

Are you satisfied with that?

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@ the hot seat
Then the school board says to the teacher ” you not going to rape kids while your at the school” do that on your own time!

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PSU2003, you’re an idiot. The fact that you played for JoePa makes you less credible. Read the report Einstein. There is way too much smoke here to think there isn’t a big fire underneath. I saw your boy Matt Millen fake cry on TV yesterday and say the same thing- wait til the facts come out.. Well, we’re waiting… The facts haven’t come out since 1998, what makes you think they are going to come out now and exonerate all of the bumbling idiots involved in this. Including your beloved JoePa. You can’t hide stupid.

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100% agree with you Mark

to say Paterno didn’t know is about like saying Cam didn’t know his daddy was shopping him

They both knew and Paterno’s is a heck of a lot worse

He should have already coached his last game

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The lynch-mob mentality is distressing.

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Maybe this is time for society to look at itself as well. Permissiveness and promiscuity, adultery and fornication amongst others tolerated and normalized by the culture. This is one sick world. It no longer knows how to blush at its own shame.

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Unfortunately, attempts such as this to cover up criminal behavior is not limited to college football. It happens every day in families, companies, elementary, middle and secondary schools and every level of government. Whenever the stakes are “high”, morality sadly loses its footing. It is superficial and misses the point to simply look at this as a symptom of college football. It is also too easy blame the “unchecked power” of its coaches. The moral failure is that of the individual for it is always individual actions, or lack thereof, that cause and frequently cover up these unspeakable crimes. There is really no such thing as “institutional oversight.” Institutions do not think, feel or act, people do. Reporters and pundits are quick to blame college football in order to separate themselves from the real issue. The need to succeed and the resulting fear of failure in our society causes way too many of us to adopt situational morality. Penn State is not to blame. All those people, including Paterno, McQueary, the AD, even the janitors who feared for their jobs – the people who were unable to place those children above their own success or security are to blame. Doing what is required can be institutionalized. Doing what is right is a moral and ethical act that speaks to an individuals integrity. If the Board doesn’t clean house immediately they will have failed the litmus test as well.

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Sandusky- from Penn State to the State Pen

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Amen Truth. But when morality raises it’s head, the media is there to beat it down unless, they can sell the story and make money.

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Joe Paterno deserves better. You and most of your posters are little more than a lynch mob. It may good to wait for a few facts and l lot less raw emotion. None of you know what Paterno was told and none of you know what he told the AD. he did his job. To have “gone public” with what to him was strict heresay would have been wrong. And, for you “pseudo lawyers”, all Paterno had was heresay when he contacted the AD. In fact, all any of you have at this time is heresay. Let’s get some facts before we execute one of the few true icons of sport. Paterno deserves better.

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Any chance CMR will go to Penn State???

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don are you serious? If you haven’t read the indictment, go read it. There are 23 pages of incredibly detailed depravity. Everything you can imagine, he did to 10 different kids. An assistant coach heard the sound of two bodies slapping together in a shower and came face to face with the 10 year old. There is no way that you could see that and NOT GIVE DETAILS. You can’t defend it. You just can’t. The coach should’ve beaten Sandusky within an inch of his life, rescued the kid and called the cops. Paterno should’ve involved the police. He didn’t. READ THE INDICTMENT before you come with that ‘we can’t judge’ line. Anyone with a brain can discern this one.

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Is it a coincidence that he passes Eddie Robinson in wins before the wall came crumbling down? I don’t think so.

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He should be fired today!

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Is CMR Penn State’s first choice to clean up this mess???

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If this was a 10 year old GIRL…..

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Should he coach again! NO WAY! Dirty dog!

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Joe must go asp~~Period!

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Look for Urban Meyer to be back on the sideline next year.

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No way he should every coach again. Penn State is making a huge error in judgement to let him finish out the season, or else they feel they have nothing to lose from a PR perspective, with which I would disagree.

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I feel terrible for all the victims but I defend JoePa unless he saw this abuse and/or knew about it prior or after the graduate assistant told him what he witnessed. How many people are going to take the word of someone else and call the police for any type of crime? What if this graduate assistant had a vendetta against Sandusky and wanted him out? The AD and the other person had a moral and legal obligation to begin an investigation and Sandusky should have been put on leave immediately upon JoePa’s notification and stayed on leave until that investigation was finished. He shouldn’t have been on University property period! Everyone in the athletic department should have been questioned about anything they may have seen etc. JoePa has given his life to PSU and has always had the best interest of the young men he coached in mind. His record speaks for itself. It pains me to see a man of integrity be mauled in the press and by public opinion when many of us would have done the same as he did and left it to the administration to do their legal obligation. Today’s coaches at many of the better know institutions should be half the man and coach JoePa is today. I’m not a PSU alumni or fan but have always admired the career of JoePa.

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Mr. Paterno should be removed from his coaching position immediately. Indications are he was made aware of the crime and it was not reported to police to arrest the guy. Penn State should change their nickname to the Nittany Liars.

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Brock @ 11:50,

The best thing written here.

Well done.

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GT JOE you must be a child predator too how you are taken up Sandusky and Paterno

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Boomer Sooner / Gig’em Aggies!
Switzer & Sherrill deserve a 2nd look.
PSU facade of ‘Joe-Pa’ yes men and
East-coast yankee media elites left clueless.

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