Help Fredi steady the reeling Braves: Your tips welcome!

Who out there thinks either of these guys knows a thing about baseball? (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)

Who thinks either man knows a thing about baseball? (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)

The Braves, as noted, have played their way into a spot of bother. But this is baseball, where momentum is tomorrow’s — by now, that would be today’s — starting pitcher, who would be Randall Delgado. So hope remains. That said …

I know you folks. (Not personally, not even Sonny Clusters — at least not to my knowledge.) I know you’re not willing to rely on ephemeral concepts like momentum and fate. You want managerial action! And here’s where I ask: With his team reeling, what should Fredi Gonzalez do?

(I pause to note: Unlike his predecessor, who relied on his iPhone for electronic interaction, Fredi has a laptop. There’s no guarantee he’ll see the fruits of your wisdom, but there’s a chance. And if your advice is sagacious enough … well, you could be the one who saves the Braves!)

Being a famously splendid sport, I’ll go first. My advice to the skipper:

• Tell Chipper Jones, “The next time the ball is hit your way, try to find it.”

• Tell Derek Lowe, “The next time you pitch, throw left-handed.”

• Tell Jason Heyward, “That stuff you were doing last year? Do it again.”

• Tell Jair Jurrjens and Tommy Hanson, “Stop hurting.”

• Tell his hitters, “When there’s a man in scoring position, try to drive him in.”

See, I’m not really sure a turn-over-the-postgame-spread-table tantrum is in order. I don’t for a second believe the Braves aren’t trying as hard as they can. (Think about it. Why would they not be trying hard? Because they’d much rather be lumped with the ‘64 Phillies than partake of postseason play?)

I do believe the injuries to Jurrjens and Hanson have put a greater load on the bullpen, and the load on the bullpen was already immense. I do believe Brian McCann’s post-DL slump has put a strain on a lineup that didn’t have a Prince Fielder or a Ryan Braun in the first place. (Note that Milwaukee has both those guys.) I also note that, if you go by that “expected wins” stat, the Braves’ overall numbers suggest they should be 83-71, not 87-67. So maybe they’ve actually gotten good value from this roster, which could be taken as a sign of — gasp! — skilled managing.

But I know you folks, and I know that’s not what you want to hear. You want action! You want accountability! You want resignations on the postgame-spread table! You want to see this team Play With More Emotion! You want all that stuff you wanted but didn’t get to your satisfaction with Bobby Cox and charge and aren’t getting with Fredi G., either. So here’s your chance.

Tell Fredi what to do. And if your suggestion is good enough and he happens to see it, I’m reasonably certain he’ll tip his cap to you.

By Mark Bradley

406 comments Add your comment

joliet jim slowing dying of heart failure

September 20th, 2011
11:57 am

im wearing my lucky t shirt now. the 1 i had on when a bullet missed my head by a 1/4 of so…hasnt been washed since..it had better work.. i cant take any more games like last nite..and (first?)

Rufino Linares

September 20th, 2011
11:58 am

Put me in@!! I can still play in any league!

Rufino Linares

September 20th, 2011
11:59 am

Oh and I can bat “First”??

joliet jim slowing dying of heart failure

September 20th, 2011
11:59 am

please just win boys..(did this dang thing post my 1st comment?)

fla dawg

September 20th, 2011
12:00 pm

“fix” Hanson and jurggens. put in “baseball” lights at the marlins field, and erase the last two outings from kimbrell’s mind!

Benjamin

September 20th, 2011
12:00 pm

I’m assuming “There’s no hope. All hope is gone!” isn’t an option…

Nah. So long as we get to the postseason, we’re in it. Everything starts at 0-0 again.

joliet jim

September 20th, 2011
12:01 pm

maybe a chicken sacrifice like in Major League? rum for JoBoo?

Benjamin

September 20th, 2011
12:02 pm

And people remember the ‘64 Phillies more than they recall who won the World Series, Mark. Just think: maybe this team wants to become legen-wait for it-dary!

Mark Bradley

September 20th, 2011
12:02 pm

Kudos to former Brave Rufino Linares. He’s hitting leadoff today.

ChopAttack

September 20th, 2011
12:02 pm

Find a reliable Ace for 2012 who can can pitch past the 7th inning. Hanson and Jurrjens aren’t reliable. Hudson is getting old. Lowe…. Potential is no substitute for proven success. Braves have tons of potential.

The Braves have the MLB worst line drive percentage. They’re a bad offensive time. The bullpen carried this team all season and now they’re overworked.

Speed Merchant

September 20th, 2011
12:03 pm

Put some pressure on the other team, and infuse some energy into this collection of robots. Let’s see some passion! Bench Hayward and let him figure it out in spring training. Constanza, Bourne, Chipper, McCann, Uggla, Freeman, Prado, Gonzo. Against lefties, sub Diaz for Constanza and bat him seventh. Move Prado to #2.

Mark Bradley

September 20th, 2011
12:04 pm

That’s true, Benjamin. (FYI, the Cardinals won the World Series. Beat the Yankees in seven after edging the Reds and Phillies by a game. I attended the Reds-Phillies game on the final day of the regular season. Had Cincinnati won, it would have met the Cardinals in a playoff. But Jim Bunning shut them out 10-0.)

cantondawg

September 20th, 2011
12:05 pm

We need to find out “Who” put the bad voodoo on us.

Mark Bradley

September 20th, 2011
12:06 pm

Wait just a second. Speed Merchant, are you suggesting not batting Michael Bourn leadoff? Really?

Jason Heyward's Gynecologist

September 20th, 2011
12:08 pm

Fredi,

Based on the success had by Bobby Cox, I would highly recommend you begin picking your nostrils constantly in the dugout during games.

Chipper Jones has apparently responded quite well to such “gold digging” during his career.

Ron E.

September 20th, 2011
12:09 pm

- Don’t put players with crap OBP batting 2nd. This means you, Martin Prado.
- Never pitch Scott Linebrink except with a 5 run lead or 9 run deficit.
- Use a strict lefty-righty platoon with Heyward/Diaz and McCann/Ross.
- Always take out Derek Lowe before the 7th inning regardless of how he’s pitching.
- Don’t have anybody other than pitchers bunt. Outs are valuable!
- Find a time machine, go back to the trade deadline, and acquire a real impact bat like Carlos Quentin even if it means giving up Mike Minor instead of settling for Michael Bourn.

MattyB

September 20th, 2011
12:10 pm

The solution is simple:Just relax, keep on truckin’ and things will swing back in the right direction. This team has too much talent to play this poorly for too much longer. One or two hot games and we could be off to the races.

smyrnabob

September 20th, 2011
12:12 pm

Have McCann give Chipper his eye doctor’s number.

Jason Heyward's Gynecologist

September 20th, 2011
12:12 pm

Also, my medical opinion would be to start platooning more players, even minor leaguers, into the Right Field position.

Preferably, these would be COACHABLE players willing to hustle after pop-fly balls not coming directly to them and willing to listen to their hitting coach.

The Marlins' Trash...

September 20th, 2011
12:12 pm

DEPORT FREDI GONZALEZ !

Dm

September 20th, 2011
12:13 pm

Stop pitching Derek Lowe and we at least would have a chance to win every 5th game.

Steve

September 20th, 2011
12:13 pm

Start by releasing Jack Wilson. He’s a jinx, and the Braves have been terrible since he arrived.

Then, put Chipper back in the 2-hole. The lineup seemed to work a lot better with him there.

Finally, DL Lowe with “tired arm” and let Tehren take his starts. You can pencil in a loss right now when Lowe starts.

That should get the Braves into the postseason. If Hanson and JJ can’t pitch, though, it wil be another early exit.

tana

September 20th, 2011
12:14 pm

Keep Lowe away!!!

Ernest T. Bass

September 20th, 2011
12:14 pm

meh Braves still have a huge advantage.

They will make the playoffs then 3 and out against the Brewers.

Loosing Managar = Loosing Record

September 20th, 2011
12:16 pm

I have a soluotion. Hire a new managar that dont have a loosing record.

Loosing Managar = Loosing Record

September 20th, 2011
12:17 pm

They never should of have fired Bobby Cox.

Shaun

September 20th, 2011
12:17 pm

The biggest mistake managers make is throwing away the number two spot in the batting order. One of the top three all-around hitters should bat second.

Jason Heyward's Gynecologist

September 20th, 2011
12:17 pm

Unfortunately, I will not be able to adequately treat Jason Heyward until the team trainers radically decrease the dosages of estrogen treatments given to him before each game.

Herschel Talker

September 20th, 2011
12:17 pm

MB:

Here are my tips.

1. He should fire himself
2. He should fire Parrish
3. He should teach Chipper how to field groundballs
4. He should learn how to use a bullpen.

IT IS OVER. Reasons:

1. The Cards have a cakewalk the next 9 games. Meanwhile the Braves can’t beat the Nats or Phils.
2. The Braves have ONE dependable starter.
3. The Braves bullpen is shot.

STICK A FORK IN ‘EM!!!

HT

Loosing Managar = Loosing Record

September 20th, 2011
12:18 pm

Id also tell Fredi 2 not listen 2 Mark Bradely! LOLOLOL!!!!

1eyedJack

September 20th, 2011
12:20 pm

Don’t let Derek Lowe even close to a baseball.

Shaun

September 20th, 2011
12:20 pm

Prado has a lower wOBA and lower wRC+ than Heyward. wOBA is Weighted On-Base Average. It takes into account the run value of each walk and each type of hit a player gets. It’s basically OPS on steroids (no pun intended).

Eric

September 20th, 2011
12:21 pm

They just need to be loose and have fun. Someone needs to pull a prank, run nekkid through the clubhouse, light someone’s shoe laces on fire, wear a lucky thong or something. I just think people are pressing and are uptight.

Curious George

September 20th, 2011
12:22 pm

Mark, did you congratulate the wrong person for being FIRST today?

Bill

September 20th, 2011
12:23 pm

We can start with new ownership.Liberty Media does not care if the Braves win as long as they turn a profit. The list of Championship teams owned by corporations like this is a short one.
Successful franchises start at the top.The city of Atlanta should know that better than most.

Mark I believe Liberty Media can sell this team this off season.The trick is getting the right owner.I love Mark Cuban but MLB is too short sighted to let him own a team, I just hope the Braves can find an owner like Cuban or Mr. Blank or someone like them.

As for the Braves themselves it it too late to even tweak anything. They have to play the hand they have been dealt.

Tom

September 20th, 2011
12:25 pm

Braves still have 3 with the nats and phils.

Mike

September 20th, 2011
12:25 pm

Booyah

September 20th, 2011
12:25 pm

Booyah says to get Chipper to act like he cares. I want to see some emotion and passion from our supposed team leader.

Brave Hokie

September 20th, 2011
12:25 pm

Here’s my recommendation:
Fredi and the all of ‘em ~ go get x-rayed and see if you have the following major organ:
a HEART
but, I fear most / all will not find one…
losers

Curious George

September 20th, 2011
12:25 pm

Mark,

What did John Smoltz tell you he would do when you called him up to ask this question of what he would do to help Fredi Gonzalez?

Rebel Brave

September 20th, 2011
12:28 pm

Win some games!

Curious George

September 20th, 2011
12:29 pm

Since the Braves are still paying Bobby Cox for the next 5 years, should they fire Gonzalez NOW and let Bobby work his magic for the final stretch run while maybe getting some more production out of “Chip?”

VABravesFan

September 20th, 2011
12:30 pm

The Braves have a great team – the problem is that everything kind of collapsed all at once similar to the end of last season. Some players are injured, some are slumping, and the young guys are worn down. It’s especially tough when you expect so much out of so many rookies and young vets, but just imagine what this team could be for the next decade…

I know the Braves are battling and as long as they have a chance, I won’t count them out.

Kraig Brown

September 20th, 2011
12:30 pm

Freddie,

We NEED a leader, not a mouthpiece spouting off about ‘forget today, let’s go out tomorrow and try harder to do our job.’ We NEED passion and passionate leaders on this team. We NEED someone to step up and play like every inning, every pitch is the final one and it must be capitalized on….I am SICK of watching nonchalant reactions to ho-hum performance. We NEED you to LEAD. If that is not your deal, then we NEED to see it in your team. Enough with pasty glares at what we Didn’t Do, the ‘Almost Braves’ of the past few years. Let’s find people who want to and will DO IT- every inning on every pitch. I am sales leader, have been for many years, and at the end of the day- failure is not an option. The Atlanta fans, the Georgia Bulldog fans, we need to see play makers make plays. Before we end up watching those same solemn faces peering into the camera lights trying to explain throwing away an almost great season, before the team can almost get away to fishing and hunting and get past another almost year of almost doing something great.

Curious George

September 20th, 2011
12:31 pm

Will a healthy & hustling Constanza come back to help save us from ourselves before it is too late?

Roger Dorn cheated on his wife

September 20th, 2011
12:32 pm

They need more fat people at the games.

jtb

September 20th, 2011
12:33 pm

Herschel Talker, I think your plan would be better if you swapped 1 and 2. How could he fire Parrish after he fires himself? He wouldn’t have the authority.

drew

September 20th, 2011
12:33 pm

Last night was a heart breaker. But as I saw Uggla try to give Kimbrel some encouragement I realized that these guys need just a little more encouragement from the fans. The Braves need to just go out there and play with confidence again. Like they were playing Sunday when Chipper came through once again. They can win the Wild Card. I think that this loss could be a boost when it comes to getting a fire in their hearts to protect their lead and get into the Playoffs so they can beat the Phillies to a pulp!

Brave Hokie

September 20th, 2011
12:37 pm

Yea, there are a lot of rookies and young players, and I hope NONE of them EVER get a chance to play in the postseason again…

So they can always think: why did we lay down in 2011?

Man, we are losers.

southern hope

September 20th, 2011
12:38 pm

Mark, this is an hilarious column and made me feel (a little) better.

Curious George

September 20th, 2011
12:38 pm

Do you think we would be in this position if we had Tampa’s manager handling our roster?

Do you think they might trade managers with us?

Shaun

September 20th, 2011
12:39 pm

Mark, outperforming expected wins is not necessarily evidence of good (or bad) managing.

DC

September 20th, 2011
12:40 pm

CONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSTANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Jcard120

September 20th, 2011
12:41 pm

It just seems like the team has become complacent. They have assumed the playoffs will be given to them, but clearly the cardinals are hungry. Still games left to play..we will see what happens.

southern hope

September 20th, 2011
12:41 pm

Should also note that 1 big game can be the swing…yesterday at 5 p.m. (after the Red Sox lost the 1st of their doubleheader with Baltimore), readers at Boston.com….well, let’s just say that offing themselves was in the mix…and most of them planned to take several others with them as they departed this world. But if you go there this morning (after Boston blew out Baltimore last night), all is great and sunny…

momentum is a funny thing.

rc35

September 20th, 2011
12:42 pm

Start David Ross at catcher for the next game or two. McCann is not producing and has trouble catching Vizcaino.

Find a place for Constanza.

Bench Prado for a game or two. I think he needs a rest a la A-Gon to get his swing and legs back.

Use Moylan more. He’s ready for more than 1/3 of an inning. I know the situation called for a PH last night–no complaint there, but he has the freshest arm out of the pen right now.

Make Pascual Perez the designated driver for Derek Lowe.

Curious George

September 20th, 2011
12:42 pm

Will Fredi Gonzalez cancel his Netflix subscription in order to better focus on his final few games as Braves Mis-Manager?

Appalachia Brave

September 20th, 2011
12:42 pm

I hate to say it but we’re gonna need a miracle. Team captains…Its time to get mad at them dang eggs! ( Cool hand Luke) Come on guys….You can play golf later….Lets kick some a$$!! Play like its your last game ever! Make it count!

Dennis Reynolds

September 20th, 2011
12:42 pm

As much as I dislike Fredi and think he severly mis-managed his bullpen this year, right now theres nothing a manager can really do. Last night the offense did a great job getting on base and scratching out the would be winning run. The over worked bullpen is our downfall now. Which is kind of ironic becuase thats what we’ve leaned on all season long. Fredi made his bed by choosing to use JV in 5 run lead situations early in the season, and now he, as well as all of us, have to lay in it.

Thanks, Fredi. What a great job.

Walker, Texas Ranger

September 20th, 2011
12:43 pm

Take all the boys to Johnny’s for a slumbuster.

Shaun

September 20th, 2011
12:43 pm

The reasons we can tell Fredi isn’t a good manager has little to do with results-based analysis.

One of the reasons we can tell Fredi isn’t a good manager is his insistence on hitting Prado second. Another is his refusal to use Kimbrel in a tie game, 9th inning or later, on the road. Another is that he consistently hit Jordan Schafer lead-off for a stretch of games earlier this season. Another is that he apparently doesn’t realize that when Chipper is in the lineup, Prado deserved to be platooned at least as much as Heyward deserved to be platooned.

blake34

September 20th, 2011
12:43 pm

Playoffs?

September 20th, 2011
12:44 pm

Couldn’t care less if the Braves make the playoffs. If they do happen to just slide in. Braves always, do what they do best in the playoffs, CHOKE. S.O.S.

Shaggy1973

September 20th, 2011
12:45 pm

So they sit at 2 1/2 games? More like 1/2 game if they’re lucky today. Because Lowe goes Wednesday and they face Strasburg Thursday, while the cards just handled their remaining hurdle.

barves

September 20th, 2011
12:46 pm

I hate everything we have! Why don’t we have other, nicer things, like other people? Other people have perfect teams who do perfect things with perfect managment! And the braves don’t constantly win every game! What is going on?

Because i KNOW that every other team wins every game and never plays poorly.

Braves should fire everyone in the FO, b/c winning a World Title wasn’t enough! Even though it is the only dang title the city has, and no other team has come close to the prolonged sucess we have had.

Yeah Fredi, awful job with the winning season.

Von Trapp

September 20th, 2011
12:46 pm

Take heart………………Ve will clinch……………No vone is going to roll over and give das to us. TAKE it Braves………………………TAKE it

coach13

September 20th, 2011
12:46 pm

There is nothing he can do at this point. Except pray. He can’t make the underperforming offense hit. He’s already taxed the bullpen by letting Venters and Kimbrel pitch with 4 and 5 run leads so they can “stay fresh”. A day off is not going to help them now.

His best bet is to have the offense put up a ton of runs so the bullpen can rest for about a week or even two. Those relief guys can throw on the side to “stay fresh”. Since he won’t do this even if the offense does come alive he’s screwed.

He won’t make it to the playoffs or succeed in them without Venters and Kimbrel being vintage Venters and Kimbrel.

Walker, Texas Ranger

September 20th, 2011
12:48 pm

And by the way, just because Prado hit .300 one year does not make him a .300 hitter. Bat Chipper #2, play Constanza more,

Nick P.

September 20th, 2011
12:49 pm

i keep telling you, this team is .235 batting team, this how they were built, and this is what they are, pitching saved us this whole time, and now that its faltering you cant expect that what has not been there all year, hitting, hitting in cluth, to all of a sudden to be there, they may still make the playoffs, but really i have been there done that already, last year we backed our way into the playoffs, and were bounced out in the first round, which is what we are used to ssince after 1999, do you really want to stay up late to see this incompetent line-up get bounced again in the first round? i keep saying what happened to constanza, and why is Heyward who is a big problem with the bat all of a sudden is starting every game and jose is hardly asked to do anything anymore?

I Got It

September 20th, 2011
12:49 pm

Cap Tips welcome??? I got it, instead of a closed door meeting, they need a closed door beating. Call up Hulk Hogan…

barves

September 20th, 2011
12:49 pm

You know the arguments against the man are bad when the angry bloggers cannot devise one cohesive argument.

He’s made mistakes, but if you make everything out to be as bad as people do on this blog, about everything, all the time…

well, start following the marlins or the mets. just not the braves. b/c i’m sick of it.

barves

September 20th, 2011
12:51 pm

@ walker:

no, being a .307 career hitter make Prado a .300 hitter. This isn’t rocket science.

coach13

September 20th, 2011
12:52 pm

Jcard120- I wouldn’t say complacent. I would say they are pressing because they realize they are spiraling downwards. They realize the wheels are about to come off. When the players and the coaches realize that…panic starts and that’s when the ship finally sinks.

meh

September 20th, 2011
12:53 pm

Lowe needs to quit sucking, the youngstes need to go more than 5 innings, Prado and Mac need to get it going, and Kimbrel needs to pop a top and forget about yesterday.

Mike

September 20th, 2011
12:53 pm

I fear the damage might be done. We will see. The HAVE to win the next two games in Florida and the Wash series to have a shot. The fact is Fredi rode the bullpen too hard. As Buster Olney on ESPN points out, OVentRell already has more appearances than Hoffman or Rivera ever had in a season. Its not completely his fault because his team decided not to hit anything the first half of the season. Too many tight games that would have been lost otherwise. Still, maybe it would have been better to lose those games early, and save his arms for down the stretch. Maybe then it would be the Braves surging and not everyone else.

Still you make a good point, Mark. This is a bargain lineup without the added benefit of serious big bats in the middle of the order.

Nick P.

September 20th, 2011
12:54 pm

here is anothe problem with the line up, i was at the wednesday day game against marlins, and i look by the beginning of fifth inning our pitcher was around the 95 pitch mark, the opposing pitcher was about to pitch his 50th pitch, what does that tell you, our batters are not comfortable at the plate and are failing miserably, either there going up there and swinging at the first pitch, or they watch third strike with bat on their shoulder and not even bothering to protect the plate, either way you cut it, we are not a good line up what so ever, Uggla is alifetime .257 hitter, so even in a good year his average would not be the reason why we make it or dont, we are not a good hitting team, and in ways, we dont deserve the playoffs!

nashvillewill

September 20th, 2011
12:56 pm

At this point it is probably too late. FG has mismanaged this team out of the playoffs. If they complete this dive I suggest FG resign or be fired. In the meanwhile, I do think the following could help:
-Constanza in the lineup, batting second. Heyward and Prado platoon.
-Teheran start in Lowe’s place.
-Platoon Ross and McCann
-O’Flarety is the closer; sorry for what this does to Kimbrel’s ego, but need a veteran in this role down the stretch.
The abovementioned mismanagement includes:
-failing to assess JJ’s injury correctly and get him out of the rotation and into rehab immediately after all-star break;
-misusing bullpen, especially Venters and Kimbrel;
-not starting rookies Teheran and Delgado earlier in season
-yoyoing Minor between Atl and Gwinnett;
-batting Uggla too high in order all season. He is a six-hole hitter at best.
-praising AlexG instead of benching him for lack of production.
There are others but these are the top of the list.

Randal Patrick McMurphy

September 20th, 2011
12:56 pm

Hey Fredi… I’d suggest wearing a Ski Mask to pick up your paychecks… at least Jesse James rode a horse and wore a mask… sheez… :-?

Wilbo

September 20th, 2011
12:56 pm

#1 I see the haunting image of 1 Robert Cox in the background of the photo attached to this piece. If Fredi is locked in a struggle to overcome the Braves’ sickening October impotence, why in the great name of the Grand Poobah of Hollyhock Hill would he ever allow postseason baseball’s most incompetent manager within 20 miles of downtown Atlanta?

#2 The worst fielder on any self-respecting girl’s church league softball team could get to a ball way faster than Chipper Jones. Have Fredi google the term ‘late inning defensive replacement’

#3 Hire Floyd Mayweather to suckerpunch anyone connected to the Braves organization who even wrinkles up his or her lips to utter the word ‘crapshoot’

Jose Constanza

September 20th, 2011
12:57 pm

Fredi, remember me, that guy who came in and hit about .400 and really got the offense going? I love Jason Heyward like a big little brother, but right now I’m twice the player he is. Put me in coach!

I Got It

September 20th, 2011
12:58 pm

Cap Tips welcome??? The closed door meeting didn’t work, so let’s have a closed door beating! Call up Hulk Hogan, he needs some work…

Nick P.

September 20th, 2011
12:59 pm

scary part about the line up is in the off season there are really only two positions you could dosomething about, one is short stop (which is not supposed to be a high batting position, its more about the glove), and right field (which Heyward will naturally get another year since he is so young, after all Francoeur recevied at least four years before we moved on), every body else is deeply entrenched either through contracts, or part of new youth that get more tries, McCann=catcher, Uggla=5year extension, freddie F= 1st base, chipper=says he is coming back, Bourner=havehim for one more year, thank god, Prado=as long as uggla & chipper here=left field, so my question is even if you wanted to fix the lack of hitting, where are the options?

I got gout

September 20th, 2011
12:59 pm

LMAO– go get an Xray to see if you have a HEART.
Now thats funny….and TRUE.
Bourne ,Hoss,Costanza,SeaBass,Freeman.
Whoever the f*** is hot. And whoever can RUN.
Hoss was good in the 2.
But who cares? Play the hot hands.(supposing we have some)
Screw the lineup and the ego

FANtastic

September 20th, 2011
12:59 pm

My tips:

1. Stop striking out with a runner on 3rd with less than 2 out.
2. Derek Lowe should not start another game for the Braves.
3. See # 2
4. Make Heyward stop reaching out around the outside fastball and pulling the ball to second.
5. See # 3

The Reverend Baby Doctor Bedpan

September 20th, 2011
12:59 pm

First place is a Cadillac. Second place is a set of steak knives. Third place is YOU’RE FIRED!

Ted M

September 20th, 2011
1:00 pm

We need to invoke the help of JC. No, not Jesus Christ though he might be able to help but Jose Constanza, he was our spark plug and as soon as we took him out of the lineup we started losing.

I Got It

September 20th, 2011
1:00 pm

I would love to give some suggestions, but your stupid filter won’t let me. Now I’m sure it’ll post both after the fact along with this just to make me look dumb, haha

Jason Heyward

September 20th, 2011
1:02 pm

I would bench myself…

the truth...

September 20th, 2011
1:03 pm

I’m for the time machine….turn it back to the trade deadline….

I’m going for both Pence and Bourne….adding Heyward AND Minor to the mix to unlock the Pence side of it…..

Voila…no more Heyward crap and a real proven all star in right field….

Getting Pence along with Bourn would have pushed us over the edge offensively so that we could handle the pitching woes….

Wade

September 20th, 2011
1:03 pm

Cast lots to find out who is taking this ship down and cast him overboard!

tmc

September 20th, 2011
1:04 pm

They’re to tight.

Take entire team on a “field trip” to a local hospital of sick kids.
Then go straight to a strip club for an hour…
(put life in perspective…
then free their mind to have fun.)

If that doesn’t work, kick ‘em in the @ss.

Whiskey Clear

September 20th, 2011
1:05 pm

Find a way to get Constanza into the lineup. I know he’s been struggling lately, and I’m one of the biggest Heyward fans out there, but this guys speed is unprecedented, and to have him and Bourn bracketing the pitcher’s spot, it just puts so much pressure on the defense to make plays. Tell him to keep the ball on the ground and use his speed. Speed kills, and that’s what was winning games in August. To win now, that must continue, along with solid pitching. So Jurrjens and Hanson need to get off their butts and start earning their keep. I don’t care what you did in June before the All-Star break. Do something now to get us in the playoffs.

Evan Floyd

September 20th, 2011
1:05 pm

My suggestion for Fredi: Do what you think is best. You’re the manager, and we’re just the fans. You’re in the dugout, the locker-room, the meetings, and the road trips. We sit in the stands or watch on TV. All we can ask for is that you have the same passion for the Braves as we do. And I’m sure you absolutely do. The city of Atlanta and Braves fans everywhere have your back.

Smart Jay

September 20th, 2011
1:05 pm

Cards face Chicago, New York, Houston in 9 games. We have Florida, Washington and Phils in 8. If we go 4-4, we’re at 91 wins. Cards will have to 7-2 to tie that. Giants have to go 8-2 in their last 10. The path is still easier for Braves. If we can somehow manage 5-3, that puts us at 92 and those teams can’t afford to lose 2 games. The path is much easier for STL if they just go 6-3 (winning each series), and we go 3-5, which is possible, we’re tied at 90. So, the Braves really need to play at least 4-4 and that forces SF and STL to get at least one series sweep here at the end.

4-4. If the cards go 8-1 to close out, they deserve it anyway.

As for fixing things. Deny Lowe any starts, give the team a chance in 2 games (or 1?). Pray the Nats pack it in and that Florida as proved their point and get us 4 wins from those teams then take at least 1 from the Phils and we’ll be ok.

bob

September 20th, 2011
1:07 pm

FIRE the manager. Any manager who bats a 230 hitter 4th is crazy. The braves don’t bunt or steal. Why is CONSTANZA NOT PLAYING?

Mitchell

September 20th, 2011
1:07 pm

I disagree with a lot of these comments.

This team has tanked on Fredi. There’s no getting around that.

This was supposed to be the year where Jason Heyward would become one of the true star players in the game and a legitimate MVP candidate, where Chipper if healthy would be able to provide a solid middle of the order presence and where Dan Uggla was counted on to be a difference maker.

As much as Larry Parrish should be kicked to the curb, this is all on the team as far as I’m concerned.

The players themselves.

rally

September 20th, 2011
1:08 pm

Play Constanza. We were hot while he was in the lineup. Speed makes the difference.

I got gout

September 20th, 2011
1:11 pm

Thats right. Check your egos @ the door. Its do or DIE!! We match up well with every team in EAST and the Fish,Nats,Fills DONT want us to win.We owned em forever. Aint no team gonna “help” us get in.
CHECK EGOS @ Door. If Tim Hudson is the best at laying down a bunt -then hes the pinch hitter not 1 year wonder Conrad. If it takes 9 frikin pitchers >1 per inn. Then do it.
Quit f***in around.

TheAntiMe

September 20th, 2011
1:12 pm

Tell the Bravos entire team to stop feeling sorry for themselves and to get mad, really mad, and take it out on the Fish, Nats, and Phils.

Kathy

September 20th, 2011
1:14 pm

Get Constanza back in the lineup SOMEWHERE!!!

Tom

September 20th, 2011
1:17 pm

Two comments here – First, the high -hop grounder to Chipper, the fast hitter would have beaten it out even if he had caught it. 2nd and most important- speed never slumps! We were hot when Constanza was playing(two speedster in lineup at same time) but when you decided to play JasonH regularily, everything went downhill from that point on! Yes, JasonH is a great kid(said that many times) and a role-model for youngsters but you chose not to play the man who was the most productive and exciting player to come along in a while. Why? Did Wren tell you to? I’ll never understand?

Del

September 20th, 2011
1:17 pm

Play the recent call-ups and the recent aquisitions (sp). Give us a spark, fire us up, do something different. And by the way bench McCann and let Rossy catch for a game or four. Just do something different for at least one game. It cann’t get any worse than it has been for the last 2 weeks.
I would also let Chipper manage one game and temp retire Freddi G.

And by the way you might also turn our speedsters loose. Have some fun and do things differently for at least one game. Whats to lose? Just don’t sit there hoping that things will change. MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FOR A CHANGE.

Fastball

September 20th, 2011
1:18 pm

I was really exicted to see Fredi named Manager last year, but after watching every game this season I have serious questions about his ability to manage. I don’t know everything, but I’ve followed baseball since 1957. I lived in Atlanta for four years in the early 80’s and had a Season Ticket. I get MLB.com baseball and DirecTV MLB extra inning. I’ve watched alot of baseball….and from what I’ve seen, I’m extremely disappointed in Fredi. Also, not a big fan of Frank Wren, he really wrecked the Orioles during his time there. …and why have a stolen base threat and not have him steal. Like steal now, damit, if your a stolen base king, then steal the damn base and let Proado and Chipper deal with first base open. Having had my say, thanks to the Braves for another interesting season. Your in my thoughts and prayers.

G.Wally

September 20th, 2011
1:19 pm

Tell everyone to wear their lucky jockstrap tonight.

STH

September 20th, 2011
1:20 pm

First we have Mccann call is brother to fix his swing again! We need Mac hitting as usual to make the playoffs.

JD

September 20th, 2011
1:20 pm

Tell the Braves htters to stop swinging at pitches that are in the dirt. especially with 2 srikes.

Ted M

September 20th, 2011
1:20 pm

Maybe the hitters should rub Fredi’s shinny bald head before each at bat. Baseball players do stranger things for luck.

Fire Parrish

September 20th, 2011
1:20 pm

FIRE LARRY PARRISH!!!

if few players struggle hitting, its not coach. IF EVERYONE STRUGGLES, (WHOLE SEASON) then ITS THE HITTING COACH!!

Tick

September 20th, 2011
1:22 pm

To relieve the load of the bullpen, use Christian Martinez and Peter Moylan some in the sixth and seventh, then mix and match in the eigth. Don’t lock into pitching a reliever the entire inning, regardless of how he’s doing. I’d sit Kimbrel tonight, and if by chance we have the lead, let Venters close, he should of been closing more from the beginning, and it would have eased his load, instead of always coming into every eigth inning when we were ahead or tied.

Also, put Teheran in Lowe’s place in the pitching rotation. One more rookie isn’t going to hurt, and he’ll certainly pitch better than Lowe.

STH

September 20th, 2011
1:23 pm

It is not the Cards I fear, it is the schedule! We are about to play hard baseball ending with Philly, while they play softball ending with the Astro’s! Yes we are in BIG trouble, and will prob. not make playoffs! It is baseball anything can happen. I hope and pray we start playin real base ball again, and now not next week! There wont be a next week if we dont get it done NOW!

Louisiana Brave

September 20th, 2011
1:23 pm

How about using O’ventabral less. After all they might be starting to tire out some.

jfreak13713

September 20th, 2011
1:24 pm

Fredi,

As you know because you are much better at this than all of us injuries can and often do destroy a teams chances of wining and when those injuries are two of your best starting pitchers its almost a certainty you will fail. Add to that your best hitter is your catcher who will always wear down by the end of a long hot summer in the South then things are not looking very good for your team. If I could fix the Braves I would be the manager and you would be sitting behind this desk thinking of different ways your like sucks! LOL Kidding of course.

Braves have some serious holes that begins with starting pitching that has put too much pressure on the bullpen and ends with a team that just can’t situationally hit. Your teams plays hard but this is not going to be your season after all. However, what we have seen is some of the “younger” pitchers are pretty good! Still a little green but with Hudson and Lowe getting older and JJ & Hanson injury addicted nice to know that there are some good arms coming up. Maybe next year?

pb

September 20th, 2011
1:24 pm

Don’t know what to tell Fredi to do that he is not already tried or trying… But got a bad feeling about end of this season. Even if they make playoffs, will not be around long, unless start hitting. Folding at this time of year worst time to do it. But miracles do happen– maybe they still have some fight left in them.

Biff Pocaroba

September 20th, 2011
1:24 pm

My biggest question is why hasn’t Georgie been playing?
Lit a fire for us and since he has sat, we hunk sunk.
Need to bunt when called for last week FF came up twice and should have bunted in the same game, instead he struck out and flied out shallow.
You have a huge bench, use them, need speed pinch run, need a bunt pinch hit a pitcher…. we have enough positions players to do this

myabe wear the home hats on the road, anything to stop the ship from sinking

Southpaw

September 20th, 2011
1:25 pm

Actually this could be a good thing–win or lose. It’s a more competitive atmosphere. More pressure is on them to win, which spills into the playoffs. Fredi should continue to rely on his instincts. I like the way he has moved Chipper and others around in the line-up. With Bobby (all due respect), he would never move Chipper out of the three spot. The idea of having to win today is good preparation. I hope they make it.

NO MORE PARRISH

September 20th, 2011
1:25 pm

Fire Parrish with less than 2 weeks in season. That would be punk rock!

rick

September 20th, 2011
1:26 pm

I would like to know what the Braves record is in games that Constanza started. He helped jump-start the offense even while hitting 8th in most of his starts. Even though he had cooled off after his torrid start, I think he is needed back in the lineup at least a few times a week.

worn out

September 20th, 2011
1:27 pm

The Braves have given me optical rectitis…a condition that when a nerve from the eye gets crossed up with a nerve from the rectum, gives one a crappy outlook on life..

Hillbilly D

September 20th, 2011
1:27 pm

If I were Fredi G, what I would say is, “You boys need to play better”. I was never big on fancy speeches.

kybodawg

September 20th, 2011
1:27 pm

dont leave any sharp objects laying around.

bostonbravo

September 20th, 2011
1:28 pm

before each game, pick a fan from the stands…let him or her make up the lineup card. Send Fredi, Derek & Chipper to the Chophouse for cocktails and a game of “Passout”…they may return to field at game’s end. This may be the solution.

bronkelliott

September 20th, 2011
1:29 pm

Freeman on the bench tonight.well as McCann. Until they prove they can hit again you have adequate help in those postions . Also platoon Prado with Constanza. they both hit as well but speed right now is so important. Small ball is important, no more more patting on the backs for failure to move runners over or failed bunt attempts. Why not try a stolen base every now and then it couldn’t hurt the way the batters are hitting. (most importantly, Keep Derek Lowe off the field, make a statement that this kind of effort will not be tolerated. and Freddi, Stop being the players friends and manage with authority!

bostonbravo

September 20th, 2011
1:30 pm

have fans confuse opponents by “tippin caps” toward opposing players all game long for no reason…

G.Wally

September 20th, 2011
1:31 pm

Get Mark Richt to give them a pep talk. He knows what the he’ll he is doing.

Mike

September 20th, 2011
1:31 pm

So they change hitting coaches, and the team arguable has been worse. This team needs to hit the ball better. Their pitching is good, but its not at the level of the 90’s teams which could carry a team hitting .240. And then there is injuries to the staff. They have to find more guys like Renteria and Anderson…veterans who can hit to come in and boost the lineup. The lineup could hit the cover off the ball a few years ago, but they dont want to spend any money to keep it together and rookies are cheap. Prado and Jones dont stay healthy. Who knows if Heyward will ever hit again.

pb

September 20th, 2011
1:31 pm

Whatever Fredi is doing, it ain’t working… Team ahead of next team for Wild Card by 10-1/2 games on August 25, should be able to hold lead. But when starting pitching hurt, bullpen over-worked, and erratic hitting by “stars”, this is what happens. Oh well…

al davis

September 20th, 2011
1:33 pm

Just win baby. Now, where’s my Brylcreem and black sweat pants? I gotta press conference in a few minutes.

TN Jeff

September 20th, 2011
1:33 pm

Fredi – Eliminate “You just gotta tip your caps to the ____________” from his vocabulary and replace it with something along the lines of “We stunk the place up tonight, no excuses.”

Frank C.

September 20th, 2011
1:33 pm

Agreeing w/Ron E., I have been underimpressed w/Michael Bourn. I would much rather have had a Carlos Quentin type hitter (as Ron E. mentions),more of a “slugger”. I’m not sure the Braves know how to use speed anyway. How many bases has Bourn stolen/game w/the Braves vs when he was w/the Astros?

Earlier in the season I praised Fredi for breaking up Lowe & Hudson in the rotation, because their “stuff” (sinker specialists)is so similar, although Hudson’s overall arsenal is superior. Somehow, he’s gotten them consecutive again. To me, this hurts Hudson, who follows Lowe, especially. While I agree w/general consensus that Lowe shouldn’t be used anymore period, if he is at least break up him & Hudson in the order.

2010 BCS CHAMPS

September 20th, 2011
1:33 pm

” Your tips welcome!”

Quit.

McCrosky

September 20th, 2011
1:34 pm

Here’s a suggestion. Draft a position player every now and then in the first round of the draft. All the Braves prospects in the minors are pitchers, when the weakness of the team is offense and has been for years. Problem is they no longer have an ownership group that will allow them to compensate for this on the free agent or trade market. This “offense” if you can call it that, is laughable at best. How long has our outfield been the worst in the majors offensively? When was the last time we had a player not named Chipper drive in 100 runs? McCann is good, but not the elite offensive player some make him out to be. He has never driven in 100 runs, nor hit 30 homers. And to be a yearly All-Star, he sure does disappear for long stretches at a time offensively.

G.Wally

September 20th, 2011
1:34 pm

See if we can buy out the Nats and Phillies games and play the Astros instead.

Ghost of Francisco Cabrera

September 20th, 2011
1:40 pm

Looks like i picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue..

Gimpah

September 20th, 2011
1:45 pm

The whole team is depressed because Brian McError can’t throw anyone out to save his life. So, a walk or single is an almost automatic double.

The cure? Bench Brian McCann unless he’s needed for a DH role.

Next year? Convince Gimper Jones to take a buyout or ride the bench. I’m sure his ego won’t let him do the latter!

hawesg

September 20th, 2011
1:45 pm

FIRE LARRY PARRISH!!

Fat & Bald with a Goatee

September 20th, 2011
1:48 pm

Maybe bring back Chief Noc-A-Homa, let him bat cleanup.

Heck, let him replace Lowe or Venters.

Mark, you think Phyllis Diller was ever good looking?

RG

September 20th, 2011
1:48 pm

I agree with BOB
We need to stop swinging for the fence with every swing (Uggla, McCann) and move some runners over and punch a base hit the opposite way. Constanza can do this. He propelled us to a 9 game lead in the WC and 4 back in the division and then Fredi starts trying to rotate line ups and rest people. Hinske and Diaz are not everyday players!!! I like Heyward, but unless we play Prado at 2nd and sit Uggla, he’s gotta sit for us to win again. I wouldn’t mind that. I know these guys hit a solo HR here and there, but with runners on, which is all the time lately, they stink! If McCann doesn’t snap out of it, there’s nothing we can do.
Constanza and Bourn will save us runs in the outfield. Beachy had to watch a 3 run double by the Met’s Tejada go way over Diaz’ head. Constanza would have

McCrosky

September 20th, 2011
1:49 pm

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

Hillbilly D

September 20th, 2011
1:50 pm

An interesting stat is that the Braves are 4th in the League in batting average when ahead in the count. They are 15th when behind in the count. Maybe they need to be a little more patient. Of course, Terry Pendleton got relieved as hitting coach because they were “too patient and not aggressive enough”.

RG

September 20th, 2011
1:50 pm

And Bring back the Chief….Spitting fire on the mound.

Fols

September 20th, 2011
1:51 pm

I would suggest HGH….seems to work.

Sonny Clusters

September 20th, 2011
1:52 pm

We was never so famous! Our advice . . . ask Eric Hinske how winning baseball teams go about their business. Hinske has two rings in three tries. Chipper is all hat and no cattle. If I needed someone to help figure it out it would be someone who has won before. Put Constanza back in the lineup. He made good things happen. Heyward makes 10 hop ground balls happen. Lose Lowe. We was at his last game and he stole our ticket money.

Rob

September 20th, 2011
1:54 pm

What was been the common denominator in our big innings the past several months?

WALKS. PATIENCE.

Yesterday, when we tacked on 4 runs in one inning, we WERE PATIENT at the plate. Hitters went up there TALKING pitches — especially when they saw how wild Nolasco had gotten.

The other day – against the Mets – the home plate umpire had the strike zone of a pea. The Mets went up there waiting — KEPT THEIR BAT ON THEIR SHOULDER – while Venters shot himself in the foot. What did we do when their pitchers were on the ropes? WE SWUNG — we swung at first or second pitches and weakly grounded out… again and again and again.

Larry Parrish should be ashamed of himself. The Hitters should be ashamed of themselves. WHEN YOU SEE A PITCHER STRUGGLING TO THROW STRIKES, DON’T SWING THE #&$$ BAT UNTIL YOU HAVE AT LEAST A STRIKE OR TWO AGAINST YOU. Don’t get yourself out.

How many times have you guys gone to the bathroom for a 2 second pee break and came back to see the commercials on because our half inning is over? Way too many the past few weeks…

Luv 2 Hate Me

September 20th, 2011
1:54 pm

I think it will come down to the last week like last year. They like keeping us on the edge of your seats. If they are smart they would win the W/C before they play the Phillys.

Space Monkey

September 20th, 2011
1:54 pm

Gonzales needs a brain transplant. He’s personally cost us two key games the last two weeks. Other than that, fine Bourn if he doesn’t take the first pitch, and make the big hitters bunt if the game situation requires it.

c and p

September 20th, 2011
1:55 pm

Tell ya what…just have Fredi call me before any major managerial decision. ;-)

Bravo, Bravos

September 20th, 2011
1:56 pm

1. Put Lowe on the 15 day DL for some stupid reason so he isn’t in our starting rotation: he doesn’t have it right now.
2. Our rotation should be something like Hudson, Hanson (when he is ready), Beachy, J.J., Teheran, and Minor (if necessary for Hanson).
3. We have a deep bullpen, but we should mix it up more with our 6-7-8 guys.
Example: Why only throw O’Flaherty in the 7th? Left-handed batters are hitting 39 batting average points less and close to 100 OPS points less than right-handed batters off of him this season, yet he has thrown to twice as many (84 to 167) right-handed batters. If we used him situationally, we might be able to reduce the total amount of runs we give up. Example: Julio Teheran has been used as a starter predominantly, and we should consider using him in a relief role. He has dominated right-handers (.192 BA) and been crushed by lefties (.350 BA), yet over 60% of the batters he has faced have been lefties.
We have enough righty specialists (Moylan, Martinez, Arodys Vizcaino, Teheran) and lefty specialists (Venters, O’Flaherty) to mix it up well against lineups. We have lightning in the bullpen, and if we use pitchers to their strengths instead of in static inning roles we could improve our odds of winning.

stamper

September 20th, 2011
1:57 pm

At this point, Derek Lowe really should try pitching with his left hand.

cristianlobo

September 20th, 2011
1:57 pm

Just let it all hang out. Bobby Marley was a big Braves fan, and you know he already say dat everyting gonna be all right, mon.

stamper

September 20th, 2011
1:58 pm

swing and a miss, cristianlobo.

Abnerish

September 20th, 2011
2:00 pm

Take them to the swimming pool and dive off the high dive. It works for Coach Richt (er, maybe not!).

Seriously, though, they just need to go out there tonight and try to win tonight’s game. Put the best 9 out there, get a lead and win the game. Play fundamental baseball. Do the little things that win close ball games.

And are you serious about platooning McCann?? Did you watch the game last night? He crushed the ball the first 3 times up, just hitting them to the deepest part of the park or right at someone. He’ll be fine. There’s an off day Thursday – no time for him to rest. D Ross is a great backup catcher, but to say that he should platoon with McCann is ridiculous. By the way, Prado and Heyward are having better ABs as well. Or did you miss the walks, the HR and the double off the wall, too??

Fredi is handling this the right way. That game hurt for sure, but it is never time to panic. Play the game the way it is supposed to be played and we will win our share of these remaining games. And then hope it’s enough.

Ralph

September 20th, 2011
2:00 pm

Play Constanza, they were winning when they played him regular, he makes things happen and gets everybody loose.

Najeh Davenpoop

September 20th, 2011
2:01 pm

Play Georgie.

jayvee

September 20th, 2011
2:02 pm

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I see somebody else picked up on it, too. I have never seen a team that won as many games as the Braves have won and hit so many pop up, foul pop outs and weak grounders. This is not a line drive hitting team. I guess the best way to fix it is to go out and get some line drive hitters. And probably a new hitting coach. Sorry, Mr. Parrish. It’s on you. Also, don’t ride your show horses in the pen until they’re all lathered and worn out. Just needed to find more people out there that could pitch in a close game. Too often to the well makes it run dry, and that’s what’s happening to Venters and Kimbrel. I don’t blame Chipper for not fielding that ball, though in retrospect it was hit so softly he didn’t really have to shy away from it. If it had hit him in the nose, he might still have had a play.

Dr. Phil

September 20th, 2011
2:02 pm

Take Derrek Lowe out when he gives up three runs. Do not wait until he gives up six or seven.

Sonny Clusters

September 20th, 2011
2:03 pm

“Flu-like symptoms” means the player is hung-over, right? That’s what it was with Andruw and probably with Chipper, too. Too much deer scent. Everybody slobbers all over Chipper and he gets on other players . . . and then he loses a ground ball in the lights. Field it and throw it and the Braves win. Winners win. Winners lead. Winners have done it before likely. Losing is a pattern. The pattern has been in place for a time. Celebrating division wins means nothing. Putting up a pennant for last year’s wild card is embarrassing. The NL Pennant is the trick. The WS Ring is the prize. Just go hunting and leave us alone.

GABuckeye

September 20th, 2011
2:07 pm

Bench Hayward, get him to understand that he needs to move up to the plate to cover the outside pitches instead of casting his hands/rolling over on the pitches. Until he learns not to try to pull the danged outside pitch, he’s worthless at the plate.

Why doesn’t Larry Parrish see it? Joe Simpson does, heck, even my 16-year old daughter sees it…

1eyedJack

September 20th, 2011
2:08 pm

I was wondering what Clusters ate before there was Dairy Queens. I guess wild game was out. Maybe turnips?

Sonny Clusters

September 20th, 2011
2:08 pm

If Ol” Fredi is reading this, we bet he’s ready to tip his cap to some of us. When we was playing ball we’d run hard to the bag and we could hit the cutoff man. We could steal a base and hit behind a runner. We was Clusters-like in the field and at-bat. Fredi could use a Clusters about now. Instead, he has a Buck Commander leading things and the Buck Commander always goes home early. Always.

Nittany Lion

September 20th, 2011
2:10 pm

Stop taking the first pitch. Which has been strike one for the last week. Then stop fouling off pitch number two and getting in the hole 0-2. The third pitch has been a ball then we hit a weak grounder or pop up pitch number four. Is this not how it has been lately? A 33rd round draft pick has his best game of the year against the Braves and we just tip our cap. This is really getting old. Same approach from all batters. Someone have a plan that works.

Oregon Brave

September 20th, 2011
2:10 pm

I would tell Fredi to start Georgie in place of D. Lowe tomorrow. I would tell Fredi to find B. Mac’s goggles, and I’d tell Fredi to have Parrish go coach 1st base. Go Braves. . . . Joliet Jim: Every time I wore my lucky Braves shirt they lost. Perhaps it’s time to track it down and put it on. Go Braves. .

STEVE BURROUGHS

September 20th, 2011
2:11 pm

Have a players only meeting in the Team Hotel away from baseball. Have Chipper ask the team if they want to win this thing or pack it in. If the answer is win, then start playing to win each night instead of playing not to lose!

joliet jim

September 20th, 2011
2:11 pm

mark bradley didnt i get in JUST ahead of rufino??? :-)

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
2:11 pm

Get thrown out of a game once in a while so the players know you have their back!

Rick

September 20th, 2011
2:12 pm

“Field it and throw it and the Braves win.”

Not necessarily true. Even if he fielded that cleanly, I doubt he would have gotten Bonifacio. Those types of hits were basically like what Constanza was doing when he was starting. Infield choppers that speed can often beat out.

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
2:12 pm

Put a strip of duct tape over Chipper’s mouth whenever anyone with a microphone or a pen & paper approaches him!

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
2:13 pm

Convince Ted Turner or Arthur Blank or some other wealthy Atlantan to buy this team and double the payroll so we can compete with the Phillies next year!

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
2:14 pm

Buy a pair of Ray Bans for Chipper!

Really!

September 20th, 2011
2:14 pm

Bring back Chief Nocahoma!

southern hope

September 20th, 2011
2:15 pm

some of these comments are hilarious…my fave 1) have all of the fans “tip their caps” to the opposing team at random moments during the game and 2) pick a random fan from the stadium and have him or her draw up the batting order while Freddi goes for a drink. Sorry that I can’t recall the 2 posters who wrote these!

Tom

September 20th, 2011
2:15 pm

Two comments to make – (1) With that high bounce on the grounder, even if Chipper had caught it, he would not have been able to throw out the speedy batter. (2) Speed never slumps, hitters do at times. When we were playing Constanza we had two speedy and exciting guys in lineup, we were winning and it was exciting. Then you decided to play JasonH reguarly and things went down-hill for whatever reason. Why did you keep playing him when he was not productive, did Wren tell you to? Why did you not bring up Gartrell(26HRS at AAA) at end of season, it almost seems like you do not want the AAA guys to be more productive than the guys you started the season with in the OF? Why did Wren and you not go get someone like Pence or Franceour(quit screaming people) they were having great seasons and were available. I do believe the WC is lost because of your decision to just keep playing someone because they may get better!

Really!

September 20th, 2011
2:16 pm

Where is Francisco Cabrera when we really need him?

CaptainMudderland

September 20th, 2011
2:17 pm

The great starting pitching lost traction….a mudslide ensued; just pull together and do your best Bravos….that is all any of us have a right to ask. Yes, I am upset with the state of our injury situation, but there is nothing to say or do that will change a single thing….so go Bravos indeed!

Bulldawg

September 20th, 2011
2:17 pm

There is only one thing to say about this team – either put up or shut up. These guys have to look within themselves and see if they really have the heart to make the playoffs or not. Right now, they are playing like they are afraid to do something wrong, just waiting for the other team to find a way to beat them. They are more talented than the Marlins and the Nationals, so there is no reason to be losing to either of them at this critical point in the season. I’m tired of hearing that we just have to forget about yesterday. No, remember yesterday, how it felt, and do something different today to win the game. Either you want to be a playoff team or you don’t. Champions find a way to get it done. Man up and take the wildcard!!!!!

JPopNC

September 20th, 2011
2:19 pm

They definitely need some additional advice on their hitting because thats where they’re hurting worse. Sure pitching is off, but when you have men on 2nd and 3rd with no outs and can’t get a run in? Something is wrong there.

It’s probably too late in the season to fire Parrish, but they really should get a second opinion on the batting situation right now.

And I feel the batting order should be:

1. Bourne
2. Constanza
3. Freeman
4. Uggla
5. Chipper
6. McCann
7. Heyward/Diaz
8. SS de jour

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
2:19 pm

Play Georgie, bench Heyward, and move Derek Lowe to the bullpen as the long relief pitcher he is!

Colorado Braves Fan

September 20th, 2011
2:19 pm

Don’t put this on the bullpen. It is the inability to get key hits.

Compare last nights game to the Cardinals effort vs Philly. In the 7th, with a runner on 1st and 2 out, the batter hits the ball down the line for a double and they score the runner. This was the 4th run which turned out to be the winning run after the Cardinal bullpen gave up 2 runs in the bottom of the 9th.

For the Braves, again top of the 7th, with the bases loaded and 2 outs, the batter hits a weak grounder which results in a run only because of an error. The next batter pops out. Thus the Braves are only up by 1 and the 2 runs in the bottom of the 9th are enough to ensure the loss.

If either of those batters had gotten a hit the Braves would be up by 2, or up by 3 with a double, and the 2 9th inning runs would not have sent them to defeat.

It soedn’t matter who those batters were because this has been a recurring story: The inability to get key hits to bury the opponent.

rutlean

September 20th, 2011
2:19 pm

In the last five years, the Braves have had 2 people collect more than 100 RBI’s. That should say enough. You have to score runs to win games no matter how good your pitching is. Sad to say, but if you look at the Braves lineup, they’ve over achieved. They’re simply a terrible hitting team with good pitching. Terrible hitting puts a huge strain on pitching. Who wants to go out pitch 7 innings of 2 run ball and know there’s probably a better chance of getting an L than a W.

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
2:20 pm

Give Derek Lowe a breathalyzer before every start!

Rick

September 20th, 2011
2:21 pm

“Why did Wren and you not go get someone like Pence or Franceour(quit screaming people) they were having great seasons and were available.”

During the first half, the Braves were one of the best hitting teams with RISP. They just weren’t getting enough guys on base. They didn’t need another run producer, they needed a leadoff hitter. Bourn was having a great season as well and he fit that roll. It wasn’t until after the all star break that they started suddenly failing with RISP.

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
2:21 pm

Take the players to the Cheetah and tell them to loosen up!

timboy6

September 20th, 2011
2:22 pm

Put Constanza back in right field and don’t let Derek Lowe pitch another inning!

Chop Chop

September 20th, 2011
2:23 pm

Bobby’s looking at Fredi in that picture and thinking, “Man, this guy’s gonna make me look good.”

Learn from the Past

September 20th, 2011
2:24 pm

Bobby Cox dug for boogers and beat his wife.

That won him a World Series.

Maurice

September 20th, 2011
2:24 pm

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J Hey's Better (Than This)

September 20th, 2011
2:27 pm

The team has been hit with the injury bug period! I knew when I seen JJ’s fastball at 83-86 that their was a problem he is usually 90-93 when your breaking stuff is 80-82 and the fast ball is 5 plus you will have problems. The Starting Pitching was supposed to be a strength and it was during the 1st half of the season, Now you are asking young guys to come in and give you innings and quality starts at the MLB level. That is a tough job for anyteam to handle. They are now back to their “Station to Station” baseball ways again and that will not simply not get it done! Dont blame Chipper or Kimbrel for those loses this team needs to pitch and needs to hit and right now they are not doing EITHER!

Sonny Clusters

September 20th, 2011
2:28 pm

We’ll never know if Chipper could have made the play, because Chipper did not make the catch. Neither did he catch the bouncer to his left a bit earlier. Neither did he drive in a run with the bases loaded, Infante’s error got that run in. Losing a ground ball in the lights is a new one on us. Yes, it was a Chopper but it was a Chopper to Chipper and he’s supposed to be able to handle those. We should call him Larry until he leads us to a WS title.

Tim D

September 20th, 2011
2:28 pm

I’m not sure why Prado is still batting 2nd? We need to put Costanza in LF and bat him 2nd. About a month ago when the Braves were winning we had speed in the lineup and it created havoc for defenses. We need that back in the line up and can’t rely on a 3 run homer. I know Prado is a gamer and wants to play but he’s not getting on base as we need him to. The line up should be this against righties:

Bourn
Costanza
Chipper
McCann
Uggla
Freeman
Gonzalez
Heyward

I got gout

September 20th, 2011
2:30 pm

Optical rectitus.
Couldn’t have said it better.

Cue Jim MorON
“PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS?
I just wish we could win a game.”

Rob

September 20th, 2011
2:30 pm

Do you guys even watch the games?

Heyward has been his old self the past 2 weeks– he’s back to taking walks and is starting to slug a little again. Constanza was a one trick pony.

The biggest issue we have is Larry Parrish and our entire org’s hitting philosophy. Its the absolute worst. WE NEED TO TAKE MORE WALKS! The name of the game is to NOT give up outs.

Michael M Beard

September 20th, 2011
2:31 pm

The big mistake that Gonzalez made was removing Pendelton as hitting coach. Parrish has not good track record as a hitter and a coach. Heyward had a good year under Pendelton last year. If the Braves miss the playoffs someboby has to bite the dust. Lowe should not pitch no more this season.

Michael M beard

George Allen

September 20th, 2011
2:31 pm

Regarding what to tell Gonzales to do: only use Diaz when A LEFT HANDER’S ON THE MOUND! please. Try to get at least SOME regular at bats for E Hinske, B Conrad and (back up catcher-forgot name, oh yea D Ross). Remember Lefty-Righty set up: lefty hitters tend to hit RHP better and vice-versa when pinch-hitting. And Be Aggressive on base paths…show some guts!!! Take some chances!!!

Daryl

September 20th, 2011
2:33 pm

It is a little late to do this but try to play ABC ball. It’s funny when were kids they teach us to play fundamental (sacrifice bunt) but these major leaguers who are paid MILLIONS refuse to do it. It makes me sick.

A Very passionate and disappointed Braves Fan

September 20th, 2011
2:33 pm

Play with urgency. Play like you already lost the lead and are trying to get it back. When the Braves were down six or seven games they gave off a better vibe than they do now. Now they don’t even act like they deserve to be in the playoffs. The first thing I tell my son when he’s competing: YOU got here. YOU put in the time, energy, and sweat to make it this far. I can not do it for you. No one can. No coach, no media, no father, no instructor can fight for you. You have to do it yourself. If every individual on the Braves roster BELIEVES that, then they will succeed. There will be some let downs but not a meltdown. Right now they are on the verge of melting down. Damn the team meetings. YOU (The Braves roster) need to show urgency and grow a pair. The Marlins and Washington Nationals are looking to knock you out of the playoffs. YOU deserve to be there. Now act like it!

Maurice

George Allen

September 20th, 2011
2:34 pm

I like the Chief Nocahoma tip

Tobias

September 20th, 2011
2:34 pm

Chipper was not hustling out of the box on that 7th inning grounder either. Almost hurt himself making the play a hell of a lot closer than it should have been

Rick

September 20th, 2011
2:34 pm

“I know Prado is a gamer and wants to play but he’s not getting on base as we need him to.”

304 AVG over the last 7 days with a 2B, a HR, 3 RBI, and 2 BB.

Rob

September 20th, 2011
2:35 pm

“Tell Fredi what to do”

Fredi, it’s easy. Call Bobby Cox and ask him what he would do, and then do the opposite

It’s going to be ok. Every team has its ups and downs during the year. Winning the division was not the goal.

Keep them settled, and get it done over these final few games

The time when there is no tomorrow begins after the regular season ends

It's Ok

September 20th, 2011
2:36 pm

Tell every guy on the team to forget anything Bobby Cox ever told them, and it all turn out ok

Tom

September 20th, 2011
2:37 pm

Rob@230 – Great, a 6′5, 245lb RF is starting to get his walks again. 3-4 hard hit balls in 3 weeks. I guess you are right, he’s coming around folks!! Rob, go back to your Wall St Journal, since you know nothing about the “business” of baseball!!

Baseball movie advice....

September 20th, 2011
2:37 pm

I think Jobu might need a refill or we might need to cut the head off a rooster. Maybe Fredi’s breathing out of the wrong eyelid.

Rick

September 20th, 2011
2:37 pm

“We’ll never know if Chipper could have made the play, because Chipper did not make the catch.’

If we’ll never know, then you can’t try and claim that if Chipper fielded it that they would have won. And he may not have gotten a hit with the bases loaded, but he’s one of the few Braves with a solid AVG this month so I don’t know how you could complain with his overall performance.

George Allen

September 20th, 2011
2:37 pm

Hey the team meeting thing worked twice, maybe once more…a game’s a game.

J Hey's Better (Than This)

September 20th, 2011
2:41 pm

You are what your record says you are look at the last 15 games period! they have played like crap tired of hearing the “big hit” or “Tip Your Cap”! Performance thats all that matters stop making excuses and perform!

John A.

September 20th, 2011
2:42 pm

I would advise Fredi to go to the lineup that has scored the most runs, and stick with it. If he follows the inept lineup he stays with…..STICK A FORK IN THE BRAVES!!!

Giveup chasing that dream that JHEY is going to turm things around……this is the last week of the season….if JHEY hasn’t found his grove by now you’re just kidding yourself. Bench him and play Constanza…..advise JHEY to play winterball, and listen to what hitting instructors tell him about the holes in his swing. If he maintains his headstrong ways find a home for him elsewhere.

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
2:43 pm

Bring back nickel B E E R night to fill the seats with rowdy fans for the Phillies series!

Rick

September 20th, 2011
2:45 pm

“Giveup chasing that dream that JHEY is going to turm things around……this is the last week of the season….if JHEY hasn’t found his grove by now you’re just kidding yourself. Bench him and play Constanza…..advise JHEY to play winterball, and listen to what hitting instructors tell him about the holes in his swing. If he maintains his headstrong ways find a home for him elsewhere.”

He’s hitting over 260 in September with over 400 OBP. His SLG still isn’t up there but I’d say he’s definitely finding a groove. And you’re just speculating by saying he’s headstrong. I think it’s more likely he fell into bad habits with his hurting shoulder and hasn’t been able to completely get out of them.

JeanE

September 20th, 2011
2:46 pm

Nothing is going to change unless we suddenly get better starting pitching and I don’t see that happening. And the bullpen may be just spent, even if we get longer innings from the starters. We’ve never hit, I’m jealous when I hear these monster scores of 15-2, we’re lucky if we get 3 runs and then pray the pitching holds up. Well, not it’s not and we’re toast. I do wish David Ross got more starts, I like the way he handles the pitchers and his defense and if Mac’s not hitting, why can’t Rossy play 1 x per week??

GABuckeye

September 20th, 2011
2:49 pm

Put Constanza in the lineup for Heyward. Heyward isn’t the answer, he’s been pretty much clueless at the plate all season. Not sure why Larry Parrish can’t see the issues with his swing, Joe Simpson has been pointing them out for months now (maybe the other teams have been listening to Joe, as it’s been working).

Constanza’s a gamer. He’s got speed and he gets on base. Let Heyward watch and learn from him.

DetroitBraves

September 20th, 2011
2:50 pm

MB, one of the factors thought most likely to have a team exceed their expected wins is a strong bullpen, so that the Braves deviate slightly up isn’t that surprising. Of course, the biggest factor, by far, is variability. As for crediting their realized record being somewhat akin to their expected record, remember that the expected record (I’m assuming this is unadjusted for competition) is simply based on runs scored and runs allowed. Since one of the major complaints with Fredi is his sub-optimal lineup configuration, the runs allowed part of the equation has arguably not been maximized as a result of his misallocation of resources. The real record approaching the expected record is simply owed to the strength of the central limit theorem, rather than anything in Fredi’s rather round noggin.

BlueMoon

September 20th, 2011
2:50 pm

Tell Wren whoever he has working the pitchers physically isn’t doing the job. Too many injuries that shouldn’t be happening. Knees, backs…and then you throw in Hanson doing work in the offseason at Boras’ place…Hanson needs about 20lbs of muscle in his legs, back and a little in the shoulders. The stronger all the muscles around the rotator cuff are the less likely you are to hurt the rotator cuff. I pitched in college and in the minors and never had one single injury, mostly due to working smart and hard in the weight room. You can have flexibility and strength and these Braves pitchers don’t have it.

Rick

September 20th, 2011
2:51 pm

“Constanza’s a gamer. He’s got speed and he gets on base. Let Heyward watch and learn from him.”

Learn what? They are two completely different types of offensive players.

J Hey's Better (Than This)

September 20th, 2011
2:53 pm

I was telling a friend today as a Die Hard Braves fan that I am if the Cards would come back over take the Bravos and sneak in the playoffs it would bother me…..BUT THEY DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO AND THEY WON BALLGAMES! If the team wins ballgames this conversation is all for naught the Braves control their own postseason goal they are not chasing a team to get to the postseason TEAMS ARE CHASING THEM! If they dont make it is because they got outplayed and the better team deserved to win the Wild Card. I am soooooooo sick and tired of people making excuses for this team. What I would like to hear is someone ANYONE just say we are playing like crap its our fault! I remember when the Braves expected to win ballgames, That mindset now resides in Philadelphia that is the difference between the Braves and other teams right now. The Phils, Brewers, Yankees, ext expect to win we are in a HOPE WE WIN mode. SO IF ANY PLAYER OR WRITER WHOEVER reads this its plain and simple. The players are not getting done from pitching to the hitters. All egos aside if your not getting it done move over if someone else will!

Tim D

September 20th, 2011
2:55 pm

Rick,

The numbers Prado has put up over the last 7 games is nic but when was the last time he got a big hit with runers on? The last one I can remember is the gamer winner he had about a month ago.

Pierre

September 20th, 2011
2:59 pm

Play George Costanza!!!! He is exactly what the team needs. Bench Heyward for Constanza. They were on a roll when they were playing him, now they are not playing him and they are not winning. Coincidence???

CRED

September 20th, 2011
2:59 pm

Speed kills. A bad playing surface and speed go hand in hand.

George Allen

September 20th, 2011
2:59 pm

I would like to see MORE Teheran less Lowe! Lowe in Relief. Call up Billy Waggs to have Kimbrel know what to do after giving up game-winning HR.

wreckbuzz

September 20th, 2011
3:00 pm

I’d settle for running out a lineup with Jose Constanza in it. We were winning, scoring runs, putting pressure on the defense. Then he turned his ankle, and we have not been the same since. Partly because that seemed like an opening for Fredi Gonzalez to let Jason Heyward play everyday again. But despite his OBP being higher, his hitting is not.

Constanza creates offense by speed. Sure Heyward walks a good bit. But that’s the end of it. Never seen a guy take second base on a walk by using his speed. Constanza puts the ball in play and the defense is pressured into making a mistake. Then when he’s on base he can steal and/or take extra bases on balls in play. Heyward does not have the same ability to disrupt.

JoeFan

September 20th, 2011
3:01 pm

To late for the Braves to recover. New ownership, players and management needed for 2012.

DCBrave33

September 20th, 2011
3:01 pm

My advice to Fredi would be, as much as the bullpen may be overworked, if your going to go down it might as well be with your best guys. You have to use those guys, and if they dont get it done, then they dont get it done. It’s as simple as that.

Also, I hope he discussed 3 days rest with Tim Hudson after his last start so that maybe, possibly, Huddy is ready to throw tomorrow on 3 days rest in the event we lose. You CANNOT possibly pitch DLowe if you are facing a sweep and the possibility of losing your lead by Friday (with Thursday day off, if Cards sweep Mets and we get swept we would be tied).

I just hope they have prepared our one Horse to be ridden the rest of the way.

George Allen

September 20th, 2011
3:01 pm

The Nats will be No Walk in the Park. Especially if they have Strass.

Grego

September 20th, 2011
3:02 pm

What happened with my posting ?!?

GABuckeye

September 20th, 2011
3:04 pm

Rick, Learn to adjust your game. Learn to do what is necessary to win. Casting your hands and rolling over on an outside pitch, producing a weak grounder to 2nd base more often than not is not learning. Learn what it takes to be a major leaguer.

bostonbravo

September 20th, 2011
3:05 pm

make Parrish “co-first base coach”. Let Constanza catch, Cosmo Kramer pinch run & have a Festivus party in 7th inning! Problems solved.

Frank C.

September 20th, 2011
3:06 pm

I agree w/several who said Chipper might not have thrown out the speedy Bonafacio anyway. But to dodge a high hopper like that?? I suppose it’s a natural, instinctive reaction, but really!!!

Also, some have suggested Fredi is playing Heyward over Constanza on instructions from Wren. I doubt that is true, but the thought has crossed my mind as well. If that is the case, I would wonder if they’re “shopping” Heyward. If so, good idea.

freshd

September 20th, 2011
3:06 pm

I saw Heyward hit a home run and score two runs last night. Martin Prado should never bat second and he should platoon with Constanza in left, and Diaz should platoon with JHey in right, depending on the pitcher. AND FIRE LARRY PARRISH, He makes TP look like a genius.

NorCalBrave

September 20th, 2011
3:06 pm

As a rightfielder a lot of you don’t like once pointed out: you win as a team and you lose as a team. The Braves got contributions from a lot of guys to get the big WC lead; and now they’re not getting contributions from lots of guys. Fredi can only ask so much. If they get overtaken, well, that’s just the way it goes sometimes.

Joshua

September 20th, 2011
3:08 pm

First thing now it is win or go home. It doesn’t look like St. Lois is going to slow down. Second bench Hayward. When he lost is starting job and had to fight to try to get it back his average rose into the. 230s, sine he has been starting every day it has fell back into the. 220s. Put constanza back in the lineup. . I know he is in a slump, but I will take someone in a slump whose avenge during the slip is. 288 over someone whoseaverage is. 227 who is not in a slump. I don’t consider Hayward to be in a slip. A slump doesn’t last over a year, and his decline started around august of last year. Next put chipper hitting second again. Then put freeman or uggle third and the other fifth. Put mccann fourth, he seems to hit better in that spot. Next against the marlins get Diaz in the lineup, not one in baseball hits them any better than he does. Lastly find a way to get Gonzalez to the plate, he is one of the hottest players in baseball right now

Rick

September 20th, 2011
3:09 pm

“Rick,

The numbers Prado has put up over the last 7 games is nic but when was the last time he got a big hit with runers on? The last one I can remember is the gamer winner he had about a month ago.”

Like I said he’s had 3 RBIs over the past 7 games. And that depends heavily on who is in front of him and if he is hitting with runners on or not. Especially now that he’s back in the number 2 spot, he’s going to have less RBI opportunities. He’s hitting over 280 with RISP this season.

GaryinBham

September 20th, 2011
3:11 pm

I only played baseball as a kid. Basketball was my sport in HS. But it always seemed to me that in some ways, emotion in baseball can be counterproductive. This isn’t dodgeball. Controlling emotions can be as crucial as having them. This team is pretty beaten up and the pieces left are tired or inexperienced in this sort of thing. I say just sit back and see if they can do it and cheer for ‘em. Nothing else TO do right now. All this “Fire Fredi” garbage is just absurd. The pressure, I’m sure, is unbelievable, they’re all giving it everything. The young kids are in this for the first time. But the other possibility is that one of them might stand up and give a great moment. If it doesn’t happen, well that IS baseball. The rest of us should just take our medications and watch the games. Heck, this is REAL drama! Don’t like it, watch the Kardashians.

Mike

September 20th, 2011
3:11 pm

Get Constanza back in the lineup, even if he has to play short. This group was just starting to figure out that speed wins baseball games. Even when it’s just Bourne in the lineup, we’re too timid on the bases. Run. Hit-and-run. And run some more.

KD

September 20th, 2011
3:11 pm

Next year I think the Braves should not take off for the All-Star break, they haven’t been the same since. They will(are) falltering just like last, except instead of winning the division and have the wild card to fall back on, this they don’t even have that luxery. The Braves are DONE !!!!!!!!

Rick

September 20th, 2011
3:12 pm

“Rick, Learn to adjust your game. Learn to do what is necessary to win. Casting your hands and rolling over on an outside pitch, producing a weak grounder to 2nd base more often than not is not learning. Learn what it takes to be a major leaguer.”

My point is, they are completely different hitters that need to do different things. Constanza gets slap hits, infield grounders, etc. that he can beat out using his speed. Then he steals bases. Heyward needs to be a line drive type hitter who can drive in runs.

Rick

September 20th, 2011
3:13 pm

“Second bench Hayward. When he lost is starting job and had to fight to try to get it back his average rose into the. 230s, sine he has been starting every day it has fell back into the. 220s.”

As I mentioned, he’s hitting over 260 this month. Since being put back in the daily lineup, his average has actually gone up slightly.

Stephen

September 20th, 2011
3:14 pm

Right now, the Braves seem to lack fire and emotion. I know they want to win, but I see no emotion at all. They lose like they did last night and they all give “Aw Shucks!” shrugs and walk off the field. I want to see some guys getting pissed off!

There should have never been a bottom of the 9th last night because the Braves were handed 3 runs as a sympathy gift by the Marlins. When that happens and you still lose. You suck really bad. I hope they can turn it around but I say the odds are now way against us.

With no JJ, Hanson and a terrible version of Lowe, I seemed to be the only one sounding the alarms back at the end of August. Our rookie starters are okay, but not ready for the big stage. We are guaranteed toast. I hope I’m wrong.

iTiSi

September 20th, 2011
3:17 pm

Two things that Fredi Gonzalez and Presidennt Obama have in common: 1. Neither one has the necessary experience to do what they are doing 2. Neither one has the slightest idea what they are now doing.

AlanFalcon

September 20th, 2011
3:20 pm

Is it time to panic YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dirty Dawg

September 20th, 2011
3:22 pm

Let Ross play some…he’s better at calling and catching and throwing and the last time I checked he was hitting, at least, as good as Brian. Sit Heyward, like McCann we can’t keep shoving them out there in hopes that they’ll start hitting…and i don’t necessarily mean play Diaz every time you sit Jason.

Decide that while it’s not yet time to panic, it is damn well time to get mad as hell. Looks like St. Louis and their manager have set their minds to winnin’ this damn thing and are determined to do it. Why the hell can’t we? Teams that ‘won’t be beat, can’t be beat’.

up north

September 20th, 2011
3:23 pm

You did not really expect serious, usable answers, did you?

Heisenberg

September 20th, 2011
3:24 pm

1) On Lowe’s day to pitch, have Teheran also warm up as if he will be starting. As soon as Lowe allows 1 run, remove him. Let Tehran finish the rest of the first inning and however far he can go after that.

2) For the bullpen. Walk a hitter un-intentionally, take him out.

3) Send Hansen & JJ to an Earnest Angely healing revival.

4) Note to CK for next 2 games (which current Braves players should have already passed along): Omar Infante can hit ANYBODY’s fastball. Use another pitch.

crackbaby

September 20th, 2011
3:24 pm

Tough crowd here. All I can say is it’s better to be 2-1/2 games up than down right now.

Time to focus. One pitch at a time. Go Braves.

Giirly Girl

September 20th, 2011
3:24 pm

My two cents:
1. Don’t swing at the first pitch. Heyward and Gonzo, are you listening??
2. This comes too late for this season, but we need to have pitchers who can consistently pitch into AT LEAST the deep 7th inning. This whole middle relief thing isn’t working down the stretch.
3. Don’t let Derek Lowe pitch again, unless it’s in a relief role. He’s done. So is Lamebrink.
4. When Chipper retires, make him the hitting coach.
5. Remember those April and May games, when you thought you had all season to make up for losses? NOT

Sorry so pessimistic, I’ve already made the mental switch to college football. The Braves just don’t seem to “want” it enough, and it shows.

George Allen

September 20th, 2011
3:25 pm

Heyward, it’s your turn to be center of Attention….Again! Time for you to display that “S” on your chest…just in the nick of time!

STH

September 20th, 2011
3:25 pm

We have to try and beat the Nats, not likely! We have to beat the Phils, not likely! The Cards play no one one that could beat anyone! It will be tough I think we make it in by 1 game! Thank goodness it is a 2.5 game lead instead of a 2 game lead or we may be sunk! Once we make it in all bets are off we could exit early or win it all. I still believe! – for now! I do wish we had the cup cake games left the Cards do, but whatever!

Stanley Crowe

September 20th, 2011
3:25 pm

Well . . . we’re two games up on St. Louis and we have five games that we should win coming up (before the Phils come to town). I would rather be where we are than where St. Louis is right now. They are not going to close out unbeaten, even though their schedule isn’t too bad on paper. The Mets will surprise them. As for the Braves — keep plugging away. We’re obviously a bit worn down, and we’re asking a lot of some youngsters, with Hanson and Jurjjens down and Derek Lowe ineffective. The young pitching has been good — too many pitches are being thrown, but that’s to be expected. The one big question I have is whether we start Derek again — I think age has caught up with him, and he’s been great, but can we risk him again? I say give him the start but with a quick hook (to Martinez and Vizacaino) at the first sign of trouble. Brian McCann must be worn down too. I’ld like to see Martin and Jason revert to last year’s form. I’m still hopeful but it sure is getting interesting!

STH

September 20th, 2011
3:26 pm

Lowe’s gotta go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rick

September 20th, 2011
3:28 pm

“Sit Heyward, like McCann we can’t keep shoving them out there in hopes that they’ll start hitting”

How many times does it need to be said… he is hitting.

Oregon Brave

September 20th, 2011
3:28 pm

iTiSi: I’m with you on that one. Altho I’m on the wrong coast to enjoy it, I do like the nickel BEER night too. Go Braves

GABuckeye

September 20th, 2011
3:28 pm

Rick, agreed that they are different types of hitters. The difference – Constanza gets on base more often at this point in time. Heyward seems to be pressing too much and looks lost at the plate. Kinda like when Francoeur was here and the other teams knew to throw nothing but hooks/sliders at him and he’d wave and take a seat on the bench. Heyward has a tremendous upside, but he needs to learn to adjust at the plate, on every pitch. If he even had a plan in his mind for each at bat, that would be a start. But, while the team is fighting for its playoff life, it’s not the time to work on those things.

To score runs, the Braves need baserunners. Constanza seems to be the better option at this point in time.

STH

September 20th, 2011
3:31 pm

I would not start Lowe in any situation in life, not baseball or ordering in a drive through! This guy used to be OK, and now he sucks! I am on the bandwagon for Lowe”s gotta go! What a disgrace of pitching! I am tired of his team mates sounding off trying to pick him up. We have found excuses and covered his b.s. long he enough! Even a dog can cover his own CRAP!

Rick

September 20th, 2011
3:33 pm

“To score runs, the Braves need baserunners. Constanza seems to be the better option at this point in time.”

Although they were blanked for four or five innings yesterday, they have been getting their fair share of baserunners. They rank 6th in the league in AVG in the second half. Their problem is driving them in.

STH

September 20th, 2011
3:33 pm

I agree and would give Georgie a start and see what he does, hell sit my favorite in Prado just to give it a chance. Worse case seneario Prado gets rest for one day!

Grego

September 20th, 2011
3:34 pm

The starting pitching gave it all during the first 3 months of the season, pitching for the life of the team.
They were outstanding. If they had been only GOOD,or even VERY GOOD, Braves would have been out by July.
In other words, they played playoff situation games in April, May and June. They are burned. Cooked.
We now rely on prospects who are what they are : prospects.

In the heat of the summer, it’s been pretty much all on the bullpen, pitching for the survival of the team, trying to protect and save whatever Uggla and Freeman could achieve.
They now look burned. Cooked.

Lineup has been overrated for a while. Besides McCann and Uggla, no confirmed player. Chipper confirmed he is not a 160 game per season guy anymore. Neither 150…or 140. Barely 120. I’d say productive for 80 games.
Prado had a fantastic season (2009, right ?), then what ?
J.Hey has obviously not confirmed. Gonzalez has never been a good hitter.
The bench has done miracles last year. Miracles being…miracles, it has performed to its (poor) value this season.
Freemanhas been the bright light…to confirm.

(Honest) questions : the team finished last season on the knees, not built for the long run (of a season). It looks about the same this year, specially for the pitching roster. Could this be the result of an inadequate preparation (physical and mental) in the spring ?
Seeing the pathetic offense performances all year long, is the coaching staff qualified enough ?

Well…I know i am off topic, so, to get back on track, I would tell Gonzalez to tell the players : ” Guys, could you do it for me, please ? Save my job !!! “

fordcobra

September 20th, 2011
3:34 pm

Wait until next year! They are standing around waiting for the other shoe to drop in every game and so far it has. Tell it like it is THEY STINK!

Grego

September 20th, 2011
3:35 pm

Oregon Brave

September 20th, 2011
3:35 pm

iTiSi: You got that ship right.

Pat's Rockett

September 20th, 2011
3:35 pm

Move Lowe to long relief and let Christian Martinez have a start. Also, my lineup would be this…..

Bourn CF
Constanza RF
Jones 3B
Freeman 1B
Uggla 2B
McCann C
Diaz or Prado LF
Gonzalas SS
Hudson P

Grego

September 20th, 2011
3:38 pm

The starting pitching gave it all during the first 3 months of the season, pitching for the life of the team.
They were outstanding. If they had been only GOOD,or even VERY GOOD, Braves would have been out by July.
In other words, they played playoff situation games in April, May and June. They are burned. Cooked.
We now rely on prospects who are what they are : prospects.

Dazed&Confused

September 20th, 2011
3:38 pm

Tell Leo Balogni @ the 680 TheFan to shut the hell up. Players are listening to him more than Fredi!!!

Grego

September 20th, 2011
3:39 pm

In the heat of the summer, it’s been pretty much all on the bullpen, pitching for the survival of the team, trying to protect and save whatever Uggla and Freeman could achieve.
They now look burned. Cooked.

Grego

September 20th, 2011
3:39 pm

Lineup has been overrated for a while. Besides McCann and Uggla, no confirmed player. Chipper confirmed he is not a 160 game per season guy anymore. Neither 150…or 140. Barely 120. I’d say productive for 80 games.
Prado had a fantastic season (2009, right ?), then what ?
J.Hey has obviously not confirmed. Gonzalez has never been a good hitter.
The bench has done miracles last year. Miracles being…miracles, it has performed to its (poor) value this season.
Freemanhas been the bright light…to confirm.

(Honest) questions : the team finished last season on the knees, not built for the long run (of a season). It looks about the same this year, specially for the pitching roster. Could this be the result of an inadequate preparation (physical and mental) in the spring ?
Seeing the pathetic offense performances all year long, is the coaching staff qualified enough ?

Well…I know i am off topic, so, to get back on track, I would tell Gonzalez to tell the players : ” Guys, could you do it for me, please ? Save my job !!! “

Leonard

September 20th, 2011
3:43 pm

Ship his a$$ back to Miami.

Peter

September 20th, 2011
3:43 pm

They need to take each game one at a time, but more importantly get their collective heads in the game, and play professionally.

Th me that includes being patient at the plate and stop giving at bats away with over aggressive swings.

Carlton

September 20th, 2011
3:44 pm

Allow Lowe to have a few drinks before every start. Might get him through a few innings and if he does horrible, hell, he’ll forget about it.

Phil Hamby

September 20th, 2011
3:45 pm

Do like the guy that followed you in Flordia did ….RESIGN .

alex

September 20th, 2011
3:45 pm

@ patsrocket-agree, except wilson for gonzo,earlier”demotion” lit a small flame in his—

Hope the Season is over SOON

September 20th, 2011
3:46 pm

Somebody just go ahead and put these miserable Braves out of their misery……state of Georgia is going to do as much to Troy Davis tomorrow night…..these phone baloney Braves have lived on “IFs” all season…..I am just ready for it to be over.

Marteen is a Ballplayer

September 20th, 2011
3:46 pm

I say the same thing now that I concluded in late May. You need to start over and ditch Fredi G. and the hitting coach. I was one of the biggest supporters of the Fredi G. hire, but it took only six-months for me to realize he is an awful game-manager. Three scenarios come to mind:

1. Fleet-footed Hinske at 3rd, Hanson at the plate, two-strikes to Hanson, one-run game, one-out, and Prado on deck (batting lead-off at the time). Fredi goes for a suicide squeeze with one of the slowest players on the planet, two-strikes on the pitcher, and one of our clutch batters at the plate. Double-play, game over.

2. Ascensio being left in the game to give up five runs and lose the lead. We rallied back to win, but Fredi did everything he could to lose it.

3. McCann somehow not being thrown out against, I believe, the Phillies for arguing calls. We had to put a long-reliever in the game due to our starter going down. He pitched five scoreless innings, got his first hit (a double), and his first RBI. The umpire was all over the place. We end up walking a guy that should have been strike 3, out 3. Instead, next batter clears the bases and McCann almost gets thrown out for arguing. Fredi stares from the bullpen. Later, Freddi Freeman gets called out on strike 3 on a worse pitch than the earlier called walk.

Do I even need to go into the lack of walks, patience, etc. the new hitting coach brought to this club. I was wrong about Terry Pendelton being a bad hitting coach and I was wroing about Fredi G. being a good manager.

Start fresh next year. Say what you will about Bobby, but he stood up for his players, the players had heart, and we were patient enough at the plate to make enough runs for our pitchers to win.

coach13

September 20th, 2011
3:48 pm

Bunt, steal, hit n’ run, squeeze, manufacture runs. They are awful at the sac fly and you can’t always sit back and wait for the double and the bomb. Your bullpen is gassed, you starters haven’t had a quality start in waaaaaayyy too long. Time to start trying to manufacture runs. Tell Venters and Kimbrel you’ll see them next week. O flaherty is now your closer.

jerry

September 20th, 2011
3:51 pm

Get me an Aaron, an Adcock, a Crandall, a Spahn, a Burdette, and a Matthews, and I will stomp this bunch of sissies that I now have.

jerry

September 20th, 2011
3:51 pm

svcsaf

September 20th, 2011
3:53 pm

•You be the skipper! Tell Fredi how to save the Braves! Earn a tip of the managerial cap! http://t.co/niv9q991 4 hours ago
•The great Kimbrel is undone by Infante, and this Braves believer says, “Uh, oh.” http://t.co/D5eKlwUV 17 hours ago
•Remember how I’ve been saying, “Don’t worry about the Braves”? When Kimbrel gets beat by an Infante home run, it’s occasion to reassess. 18 hours ago
•Last month I wondered if the ACC had a future. Today I say: Hail the ACC, new king of college basketball! #gatech http://t.co/YTxMoDLT 1 day ago
•Our all-Falcons Monday Heat Check: The cool of Matty Ice, the uncool bit of scoreboard-pointing by M. Vick. http://t.co/FO6iDhlD 1 day ago

svcsaf

September 20th, 2011
3:53 pm

Prado4President

September 20th, 2011
3:56 pm

I’d tell Fredi that he’s doing a good job, but he needs to find a hitting coach that stresses OBP!!!

Curt

September 20th, 2011
3:56 pm

wear hats commemorating Sept 11. oh wait, MLB wont let anyone do that.

chris

September 20th, 2011
3:57 pm

Throw Pitch Counts out the window…….The next time a starting pitcher is in a groove (assuming that will happen again) ride him and who cares if he’s over 100 pitches. If he can throw a complete game and it takes 125 pitches to do it then go for it. The bullpen needs a blow so give them one when the opportunity presents itself.

Prado4President

September 20th, 2011
3:57 pm

Really for that matter, I’d just tell Fredi to find a new hitting coach. Compared to career averages, I believe every single player has fallen in most statistical areas this year. This shows that there’s a problem!

Dr. Rambunz

September 20th, 2011
3:58 pm

Bring back Skip, Don, Pete, and Joe. Things have gone to hell ever since they departed. Of course, we might need a sub or two.

Prado4President

September 20th, 2011
3:59 pm

(Every player that has been with the Braves most of the year, that is…)

BravesfaninNashville

September 20th, 2011
3:59 pm

Fredi should first and foremost protect every lead like it’s Fort Knox. As Chipper says all hands on deck. It’s hard to understand moves like wasting a 5-1 lead in the 5th and bringing in Christian Martinez our long reliever to pitch to 1 batter after we are behind by a run and then having to pinch hit for him the next inning because we need to score since we are behind. Why not bring him in before we lose the lead and have him available to pitch 2 or 3 innings. This way we waste our long guy on 1/3/ inning and further tax the bullpen because now you have to cover 4 innings without him. Moves like that make me crazy..

Nick P.

September 20th, 2011
4:00 pm

pitching has to get better because the hitting all year has been this way, .235 as a tem, so dont all of a sudden expect big chnages in approach and swing changes, they are who they are, home run hitting team incapable of stringing together a number of hits to score, one thing baseball does not lie in 162 game season with state up the wazzo, is lie about a team identity, this team is not very good hitting team, who depends on the long ball for 80% of their runs, which means it better have great pitchers, who are so nervous about giving up runs that they get out of their comfort zone in trying to do too much which lately has been translated into making mistakes due to pressure and knowing if the opponent scores three or more run there is a great possibility that you will ose this game cause your offense cannot muster up any runs! Pure and simple!

John A.

September 20th, 2011
4:02 pm

I thought I was the only one that supported the efforts of Constanza. It seems to me that Constanza has been intentionally kept hiden in the minors. What has he done that deserves this lack of support? Will he be given an opportunity to be on the roster next year? Will he be invited to spring training? If Frank and the boys don’t want him on the team (for fear of showing up their pets) I’m sure there are other teams that would love to him hang his clothes in their lockerroom.

Lowe doe not deserve another start even though he is making more money than half the pitching staff.

jt

September 20th, 2011
4:03 pm

I would tell Fredi to QUIT, GO BACK TO WHERE EVER YOU CAME FROM. WHAT ABOUT THOSE THROW AWAY GAMES BACK IN EARLY SUMMER. YOU FRIGGING “JERK”:

Now that should work, and I feel a little better!

jt

September 20th, 2011
4:05 pm

I was the biggest defender of Chipper, but holy Shi@! What a screw up that was last night.

Now I think Chipper needs glasses, or at least a seeing eye dog.

jt

September 20th, 2011
4:07 pm

Dennis Reynolds I think you have a brain tumor!!!

Bambam

September 20th, 2011
4:07 pm

Play fundamental ball, get ‘em on, get ‘em over, get ‘em in. Simple as that, Jones, Uggla and McCann should not be above bunting.

jt

September 20th, 2011
4:08 pm

I used to be Chipper’s biggest defender, but now I think he needs glasses and at least a seeing eye dog.

jt

September 20th, 2011
4:09 pm

Bases Loaded and Uggly pops up, Come On Man!!!! Big buck for nothing!!!

Dirty Dawg

September 20th, 2011
4:15 pm

Over? Who says it’s over? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It ain’t over til we say it’s over! Who’s with meeeeeeeeeeeee…

What this team needs is a Bluto Blutarski moment with, probably, Dan Uggla leading the charge, or maybe Eric Hinski. What we need is one final, futile, gesture. If we’re out of it by the Phillies then a few more head shots to those guys….sorry I got carried away. Either way it ain’t over til Willie sings Whiskey River…and I’m drinkin’ to that.

GWP

September 20th, 2011
4:20 pm

borrow those butt ugly UGA uniforms

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 20th, 2011
4:24 pm

Roger Dom,

We need more bald players on the team!

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 20th, 2011
4:25 pm

Psssst, Dirty Dawg………….it’s over!

the hot seat.....

September 20th, 2011
4:31 pm

Hey Mark, is Gonzalez on the “hot seat” like Mark Richt?

EmoryGrad

September 20th, 2011
4:33 pm

The top 5 reasons the braves will not make the playoffs: (wow, that hurts my fingers typing)

1. They play their nemesis in the form of the Nationals…to make it worse it’s in Washington. To add a cherry on top, our best pitcher goes head to head with Strasburg, so there goes our only hope of winning one in the series.
2. Cardinals play scrubs the rest of the way….and they have a good mindset of actually being confident enough to beat those inferior teams…I don’t think the braves have that same mentality
3. The Cards have Big Al, the braves don’t. Enough said here.
4. We finish with the Phillies, who whether they are in or out of the playoffs will always play us hard.
5. We can’t HIT! Anemic! Bourn was a great addition but he has sort of fizzled off of late, prado is struggling, freeman is in uncharted territories, Heyward..well.., McCann is just not being himself of late, and Gonzo (God bless his soul) is washed up.

Note: pitchers’ injuries are not an excuse..the Cards lost their best pitcher Adam Wainwright to begin the year.

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 20th, 2011
4:37 pm

hot seat,
Surely you jest. Ownership doesn’t even know who the “manager” (read Bobby Cox clone) is.

robdawg08

September 20th, 2011
4:37 pm

I think Vizcaino should be allowed to close the next 9th inning.
I think that Prado needs to play 3rd base.
I think Derek Lowe needs to not start the last few games.

The Red Sox of the National League

September 20th, 2011
4:37 pm

1) Tell Chipper he is just too old and slow and he DOES need to retire or go to the American League as a DH.
2) Take D. Lowe back to the American League with him. I think he has earned about $1 million per loss this season if my math is correct.
3) Put Constanza back in the line-up. He was a spark to this team. It’ll be like Festivus again.
4) Play Conrad in the infield. At least we have seen that movie before and know what to expect. No one will be surprised when the Braves lose on miscues then.

Let’s face it, this is typical of this Braves organization. They just don’t have the killer instinct at the end of the season. I mean, 14 division tittles and one world series title–c’mon.

Bill

September 20th, 2011
4:38 pm

Learn to bunt, particularly when there are men on first and second with no outs in the 8th or 9th inning.

Over for 2010

September 20th, 2011
4:42 pm

Why now. All year long I have not been able to keep up with the lineup. Whos batting 1st, whos at 3rd, who is now in the 8th spot. Think about those players and how they must feel. Think of Heyward who has been replaced instead of sending him to AAA to find his swing. Think of the pitchers who watch as the pen blows another lead while Gonzalez watches them do it. Think of the players as they watch Lowe give up 8 hits and 6 runs in the first inning knowing they now have a lot to catch up on.

One thing you could count on in the 90’s is that that lineup was the same. One could be listening in the other room and know who was up to bat next. The team was comfortable, they worked out of the slumps. I have to wonder if having Pendleton still involved in the hitting part is helping or hindering the new hitting coach. Players are having to think to much.

Now I hear if we do get to the playoffs Lowe will be the starter. God, thats a 1st loss if ever you wanted one. He should not even be on the playoff team. I dont care what he did, I see what hes doing and he has lost the last 8 games. Not a good thing coming into the playoffs.

Well it does not matter at this time. They are done, They are laying down because hunting season is on now and Chipper has the woods calling. Im sure a lot of the other players are craving the same hunt. Good luck.

Freddy Gonzalez was not the right choice for a replacement for Bobby Cox and Terry Pendleton should have been sent packing instead of the 1st base coach. He was good, pendleton is not.
Old saying, you get what you pay for does not apply here, but you get what you keep, well I see that in debth. Time to move some coaches and manager and get a real monster going.

JasonInFL

September 20th, 2011
4:44 pm

JC

September 20th, 2011
4:44 pm

Continue praying to the baseball gods for mercy..

wayn-o

September 20th, 2011
4:46 pm

start all the bench players to show them what they are missing. Let them watch.
Bourn
Diaz
Uggla
Hinski
Ross
Conrad
Wilson
Constanza
any pitcher not named Lowe.

John A.

September 20th, 2011
4:47 pm

I get sick and tired of reading this hogwash that these kids blah blah…..who the hell are you trying to kid? These guys you are calling kid are all GROWN MEN!!!!! They get paid a damn site more than you do, and all they want to do is whine and complain.

It’s time for these punks to MAN UP…..Play like they really deserve to get the salaries they get. Do any of you make $15M per year to play a game? Do any of you make $200,000.00 to play a game? I suggest they all get real and start playing for the fans that pay their salaries.

Instead of putting their average on the scoreboard, why not put how much they are getting paid to be at bat? This is not a game for them……it’s their job!!!! Also, do the same for the guy that is on the mound…just because they only pitch every 4th or 5th day doesn’t give them the right to get a pass.

Does any of these ballplayers ever consider how much it costs to go to a game? For a single individual to go to the game it will cost $100.00….parking, beer, hotdog, ticket (good seat). If you take a date you’re talking about $200, and heaven help you if you should have two kids.

If I sound upset, you bet I am. Actually I’m pissed…..these guys (including Fredi, Frank, John and Bobby) should be down there kicking ass instead of making excuses for their lack of effort. To be paid in the manner in which they are, they should be giving more than they are, instead of embarassing themselves.

robdawg08

September 20th, 2011
4:47 pm

Mark, you know I want Accountability ! You can make fun but its sadly the truth. Each player has to look in the mirror,adjust,and do their jobs. If each player will do their part then the whole will be just fine. Simple but true. But how does that happen ? Players need to go look at video tape of when they were successful. Maybe a hitter’s stance or bat position has changed ? Maybe a pitcher has a higher or lower arm angle ?

I’ll tell you this much, Tony Gwynn believed in video tape religiously and he RARELY slumped !

rico carty

September 20th, 2011
4:47 pm

Quit swinging at the first pitch, work the opposing pitchers more. The Braves have the shortest offensive innings in history. Bench D. Lowe.

Rich P.

September 20th, 2011
4:59 pm

Re-activate Rafael Belliard and get some REAL offense going!

DawgDad

September 20th, 2011
5:00 pm

They’ve been playing hard, and they need to keep playing hard. They’ve taken some tough shots lately and they need to keep their heads up grow stronger from the adversity.

My baseball advice would be seriously consider starting somebody besides Derek Lowe. I’m not sold on Prado in the number two slot; I like Heyward there especially against a right-handed starter, but that isn’t winning or losing these games for them.

Korg

September 20th, 2011
5:00 pm

it’s ok folkes we will be fine

Rafael Ramirez

September 20th, 2011
5:02 pm

Rufino Linares died in 1998

Ralph Garr would sit the bench with this coaching staff

September 20th, 2011
5:02 pm

The team lost a spark when Constanza was relegated to the bench so that the ‘phenom’ could go back to right field. Georgie hits .300 all throughout the minors, and when his average dips below .400 in Atlanta, he is sent back to the bench. Meanwhile, Heyward hits .230 all season, and hasn’t yet hustled down to first on a grounder to second or short while Constanza has only one speed: wide open. Just as ‘Speed merchant’ said, Heyward needs to sit and figure it out next year.

Main Man

September 20th, 2011
5:03 pm

The chemistry of the team was altered by moving Constanza to the bench in favor of Heyward. When you alter the team chemistry you sometimes cannot get it back !!! Try it again and see what happens.

Don't Give Up on This Team.

September 20th, 2011
5:04 pm

Braves will go 4-4 and nip the Cards by one game for the WC. Hanson will return and, with Hudson, help the braves to a surprising series win in the first round.

Mark it down.

Bobbys' Booger

September 20th, 2011
5:05 pm

It’s really quite simple and many bloggers have stated much of the PROBLEMS:

Year long bullpen abuse. – Fredi
Heyward shouldve been in minors for 2nd half until September – Fredi/nitwitGM
Worthless hitting coach who changed hitting philosophy to swinging early in counts. Last year we led league in walks and pitches seen like the YANKEES always do. – who hired LP? –nitwitGM
Quit whining about losing Hanson and JJ- all teams have injuries and Braves have had less than StL and San Fran…quit COMPLAINING…- some fans
Lack of fundamentals like BUNTING- Prado -and LP…or does our “hitting coach” frown on bunting?
Lack of fire from the dugout. – Fredi…get your azz thrown out…blow up…they need you to vent for them..additional benefit of Fredi not being on the bench.
Play Costanza at least some…jaysus…what part of speed kills don’t you get? – Fredi
Have some fun out there. This team is so tight you couldnt put a greased needle up anyone’s you know where. – whole team

speed kills!

September 20th, 2011
5:06 pm

ya know..Freddie…BOURNE AND CONSTANZA! IT IMPERATIVE THOSE TWO ARE IN THE LINE UP ON THE SAME DAY! What are you thinking not utilizing the SPEED! We had a bettter winning % with those two in the line up…no matter Left or Righty pitching…yea, Heyward got a homer last night but dont be fooled by him…he will go 0 for the next 30 abats..Freddie…lets WIN put the best chance of the Braves to win on the field…! Dont worry about hurting egos…play the hot players…and SPEED KILLS!

Felix

September 20th, 2011
5:06 pm

Fredi: Clean your golf clubs cause you’ll be able to hit the links soon. It’s over. This team is done. They struggle against the weakest teams; but the Cards, who just whipped the Phillies 3 out of 4 at their place, are on a mission. The Cards remaining schedule is so easy they just might win out. Your Braves might lose another series to a lousy team and then you have to face those pesky Nats and then guess what?—-You get to finish against the Phils.

hephdawg

September 20th, 2011
5:08 pm

tell the umps that the plate has corners. Lastfew weeks they have pinched the strike zone badly. Tell Brian to call the game realizing he has to keep the young guys out of middle of the plate. Take Prado out of the 2 hole put a someone with the ability just push Bourn along and not worry what pitch to hit. We have just a few left and we need to get going. Light a big week long fire under these guys.

Let the atlanta sprit own club

September 20th, 2011
5:09 pm

Here Mark Bradley what u Miss is what help Cards win in 1964 if they did not get Lou brock in Trade from Cubs then Phillies would had won NL pennant that year W.S. Maybe…But thanks to another laughin stock name is chicago st.louis would not won WSeries over Yankees!..Also sit hayward down say we get someone else show u how! If not we be home with cox beatin his wife soon!

Fire the Coach NOW!

September 20th, 2011
5:10 pm

It’s time for him to go. He did well with this team for a while, although I think he was just winning with someone else’s players, not players he brought into the system. He’s lost the fire. I think he’s lost the players and lost control of the whole team. This downward spiral must stop now. This will never be a top tiered team with him as coach. He must be fired NOW! Oh wait. I thought we were still talking about Mark Richt. Sorry. Well, at least fire Bobo and I’m sure the Braves will make the playoffs.

bulldogbubba

September 20th, 2011
5:15 pm

I say Clusters on 3rd and Stinky Wintes plays left field.If there was a time to play your best players it is NOW.Heyward is not getting it done.He looks like Andruw Jones at the plate watching the ball go by.Lowe stinks period!!!Sit chipper and play Prado at 3rd, Costanza in left and Diaz in right.Hopefully these minor-league coaches they called up are helping them see better ways to win some of these ballgames.

speed kills!

September 20th, 2011
5:21 pm

Constanza and Bourne in the line up ;the rest of this year or the Braves are done! Play the players that are producing consistently not every 35 at bats…
We were playing exciting winning baseball with Constanza and Bourne in the line up!
Go figure why dont you have then in the line up now Freddie…it dont take a coach that wants to win long to figure out how to win…I think? CONSTANZA OUT FIELD ALL THE TIME…! DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

DawgDad

September 20th, 2011
5:28 pm

I totally disagree with the posters pointing to the “benching” of Constanza. Heyward is a better all-round player and with his power and eye at the plate he doesn’t have to hit for the same average to be more productive. Freddi bled the best there was to get out of Constanza, and hopefully he can provide some spark off the bench or filling in.

Now, you could point to Freddi continuing to run McCann out there when he’s not hitting and have a valid point. But no manager, me included, is not going to play a healthy McCann. At this point either the players on the field get it done or they don’t. The question now isn’t “can Freddi manage this team or write a lineup or whatever”, it’s “can the players and pitchers they have get the job done”. We’ll see.

The Braves have a solid nucleus of talented young players and players in their prime. If these 20-24 year old pitchers and players can bring this thing home the experience could be invaluable and very entertaining.

Bobbys' Booger

September 20th, 2011
5:28 pm

ah yes speed does kill. of course our dear man Fredi thinks it’s a DRUG.

additionally, please lets show some fire…some heart, some passion, some fun out there. That is a tall order I know since our “beloved” nitwit GM has to neuter the team of emotional players..Prado excepted.

DawgDad

September 20th, 2011
5:34 pm

Let the Atlanta spirit: Hey, in 1964 the Phillies were on a mission of self-destruction, flushed down the drain by an absolutely retarded manager. The team that should kick themselves for not winning in 64 was the Reds.

Even a Braves collapse wouldn’t top what the Phillies failed to accomplish in that last week.

VinceVanGo

September 20th, 2011
5:36 pm

I have followed the Braves for over 34 years and they are my team. But I am also a baseball purist. If they go 4-4 as many suggest would get them into the playoffs, I would rather that they not be there. Would they deserve to be in the playoffs with the way they have played over the last month. No! The Cards are hungry and the Braves are not. I know they lost their 2 best first half starters, but good hungry teams find a way to overcome that. I am not a Frank Wren basher, but the biggest problem with the Braves is the financial limits from Liberty Media, and two poor deals that Wren made. We’ve had three years of D. Lowe & K. Kawakami at $22 million a year equals $66 million for what? 40-45(?) victories at most between them over the 3 year period. That’s probably the worst turn for your dollar in the history of baseball. As far as what advice would I give Fredi for the rest of this year. Put D. Lowe in the bullpen and ship him out this winter. Give McCann, Heyward & Prado some bench time. Find playing time for Constanza and turn him and Bourn loose on the base paths. Consider swapping Venters & O”Flarherty in their 7th/8th inning roles. O’Flarherty appears a little fresher than Venter’s and has earned a chance in the set up role. It might also make Kimbrell think that he may be next to be moved around if he continues to give up the long ball. And keep throwing the rookie pitchers out there as starters & in the bullpen. They’re doing more than okay and they are the future.

Bobby Bobby

September 20th, 2011
5:38 pm

Ralph Garr would sit the bench with this coaching staff

September 20th, 2011
5:48 pm

Why’d my last post get deleted? All I said was ‘Heyward doesn’t hustle like Constanza’ Constanza makes things happen with his speed, defensively and offensively. JHey already has acquired the ‘veteran’s jog’ to first base when he hits a ground ball that is caught by an infielder. Constanza gets on base with those through pure hustle.

Noholdsbarred

September 20th, 2011
5:50 pm

Walk out on the field like you’re taking the lineup . . . tip your hat to the crowd and announce “I’m going home, the season is over” . . .

Fredi, listen up! Free Advice !

September 20th, 2011
5:51 pm

Let Constanza play right field. He outhustled Heyward every single time he bats and every time a ball is hit to him in right! Heyward has speed, he only uses it when it suits him. Constanza is an energizer bunny!

Thomas Williams

September 20th, 2011
6:03 pm

Lost in the issues with Venters and Kimbrel is the fact that McCann is the one calling the wrong pitches. The pitch to Omar last night should have been off-speed instead of fastball. The same has happended with Venters lately as well.

Hy Ronatt

September 20th, 2011
6:11 pm

quit now, you fat bastage. Hope that helps.

Billy

September 20th, 2011
6:21 pm

It started when Constanza hurt his ankle and Braves got Diaz back………..

al

September 20th, 2011
6:29 pm

Ralph Garr, when did Heyward not run out grounders? I’ve watched him play and have not seen it.

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
6:34 pm

Give the players steroids!

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
6:35 pm

Replace the first and third base coaches with Hooters waitresses to add speed on the base paths!

kral

September 20th, 2011
6:36 pm

I am a pessimistic-optimus…prepare for the worse…hope for the best….great blog set-up MB…to bad some people took it serious and actually gave advice

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
6:36 pm

Invite Mike Vick to throw out the first pitch in order to sell out the ball park!

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
6:38 pm

Start putting yellow pennants on the outfield wall for 2nd place finishes!

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
6:38 pm

Lower the price of B E E R and keep selling it after the seventh inning!

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
6:39 pm

Seriously though, guys, just relax and win a freakin’ ball game already. Geez.

WoW

September 20th, 2011
6:44 pm

There is no fire in this team…no sense of purpose as they think they will just walk into the playoffs. It is over!!!

Gatorman

September 20th, 2011
6:46 pm

I said this when the season start on the AJC postings that the Braves would be lucky to make the playoffs, but not for the reasons they are losing now. Over use of the bullpen, is a dead giveaway that you don’t have reliable starting pitching (which I thought they would). However, the hitting should have been more consistent (which it is not), but my prediction was then and is now that Gonzalez was not a good pick for this team (more Bobby Cox style management). I also said that Chipper Jones would be a non-factor because of his constant injury problem, but now I believe his attitude toward young players has affected many of the young guys bringing enthusiasm to the team. The Braves are smoke and mirrors and now we see why. They have only 2-3 reliable pitchers and one them can’t pitch more than 6 innings. Chipper, Gonzales (at short) and Uggla at second base was three bad choices to have on the team. Next year the Braves need to look for infield help and at least one more solid pitcher. Even then 87-90 victories is all they can expect until some of the young pitchers come of age and the aging infield is replaced.

Hilltopper

September 20th, 2011
7:09 pm

Get rid of Lowe. A disaster the entire year.

Pissed off Ralphus

September 20th, 2011
7:12 pm

Here’s what Fredi should do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUc62jD-G0o
From :53–>1:34

Greg

September 20th, 2011
7:17 pm

nice chipper. you’re suppose to swing at strikes and not swing at balls.

Brainiac(Dawg for life)

September 20th, 2011
7:38 pm

Send Lowe on an immedite 30 day vacation out of the country. Play Constanza.

wins-by-a-link

September 20th, 2011
8:44 pm

FG will be blamed for failing to make post season, Many factors decide if a team is sucessful or a failure, Number one is injuries, Players get hurt, Happens to all teams, Players have hitting slumps, Some last longer than others, Some players will exceed expectations, Others will fail to meet expectations, Some players choke under pressure, Some flourish, Most of these things that happen are not the fault of the manager, But as the old saying goes “Its easier to fire the manager than the whole team”.

Jay thomas

September 20th, 2011
9:12 pm

Play Constanza!!!

gcs

September 20th, 2011
9:14 pm

Why did Alex Gonzalez come out of the game?

rugburn

September 20th, 2011
9:33 pm

chipper has never run on ground balls even when they are bobbled. he is a terrible example. when he missed that chopper last night he never even turned to see where it went. what makes fans think he would be a good manager? do as i say not as i do because i’m great and can blame someone else.

Brave Fan

September 20th, 2011
9:43 pm

It would be nice to think that our guys actually cared if they made the postseason. They seem to be very tired of playing baseball!! No passion, don’t run out ground balls, looks of disgust on faces. What can be done? Fredi needs to chew some folks out. Big time. Tired of seeing guys pout.

Farnsworthy

September 20th, 2011
9:46 pm

Nieves? Whatever happened to Nieves?
And, why did that numbnut Frank Wren decide that it made sense to pay Lowe 15m a year?

Farnsworthy

September 20th, 2011
9:52 pm

Fredi: During the offseason consult with someone like Tommy LaSorda on the proper way to chew an umpire’s butt; because when it comes to confronting umps, man you are weak.

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September 20th, 2011
10:10 pm

Jim from Roswell

September 20th, 2011
10:39 pm

Please don’t let Lowe start another game for the Atlanta Braves! Pitch one of the young guns and take your chances with talent that might even make it past the 5th inning with a lead. Lowe is done. Lowe can no longer pitch effectively in the majors. Lowe is through. Lowe is washed up. Getting the message Fredi? Need more hints? Loyalty has its limits and you have given Lowe 4 or 5 starts more than he deserved. Move on.

P Rose

September 20th, 2011
11:09 pm

That’s more like it! Nice win. Keep taking care of business and everything will be fine.

GoAwayLowe

September 20th, 2011
11:17 pm

Fredi, How can you even consider letting Lowe come close to a baseball? Put him in his little fancy sportscar and say he is on the DL. If you have ANY chances left, for the love of God, don’t let him start tomorrow. Then after that, bring Constanza in to play, and take out the dead weight. Lastly, pack your things and move on. Whatever made you think you could manage Major League ball players.

G.Wally

September 20th, 2011
11:36 pm

Hinske’s haircut did the trick.

JRW7

September 21st, 2011
12:13 am

Even if BRAVES hold on to win wild card, they are not going anywhere in playoffs. Something about this BRAVES team just ain’t right?

Nobleman

September 21st, 2011
12:21 am

One thing we, and I mean all can agree on, no way will FG, manage for 20 years, with the Braves like Mr.Cox, and who suggested Parish for batting coach, one of the worst coaches in baseball history. Braves fan since 1965.

Kelvin Frazier

September 21st, 2011
2:23 am

It should be obvious to anyone watching the Braves that they are tired. Their starting pitching is shaky and the bullpen has worn down from all the innings they have logged this year. But what can you do? With starting pitching the way that it is the Braves are going to have to continue to rely on the bullpen which will cause them to wear down even more. If the Braves manage to hold off the Cardinals and make it to the post season it could mean a quick exit with a tired bullpen.

Heath

September 21st, 2011
5:09 am

4 words: Jose Alvarez Pep Talk

Heath

September 21st, 2011
5:13 am

3 more words, Fredi: Mark Lemke bobbleheads

One for each player. You’re welcome.

Go back to bed

September 21st, 2011
6:05 am

Enter your comments here

Gladys Knight

September 21st, 2011
6:06 am

Buy a one way ticket back to the life you once knew.

Bud Wiser

September 21st, 2011
6:26 am

Here’s a no-brainer: give Derrick Lowe his outright release.

joe

September 21st, 2011
6:27 am

as much as I like to watch the Braves they are such a miserable offensive team( and now just a mediocre pitching staff, at best) that it would be 1 and done even if they get to the playoffs….
the fact that Lowe keeps getting the ball every 5 days has turned me off to the Braves

Double Zero Eight

September 21st, 2011
7:13 am

Go with the young arms during the playoffs.
Use Lowe as a reliever. Use Leo Mazzone as
a consultant during the playoffs. Get more
input from Terry Pendleton on hitting.

RGP

September 21st, 2011
7:42 am

Get Lowe out of the starting rotation immediately if not sooner.

Capt. Lou Albano

September 21st, 2011
8:00 am

Here’s a great idea, don’t let Lowe pitch anymore. I heard he was great at picking up donuts and sitting on the bench. We’ve lost tooooo many of his starts. We might as well bring Kawakami back and let him pitch in Lowe’s place.

Noholdsbarred

September 21st, 2011
8:20 am

Put bi-focals on McCann so he can see the ball . . . and second base! Use the line-up w/pitcher batting eighth Constanza 9th. Or even use this:
1.Constanza,
2.Bourn,
3.Freeman,
4.Gonzo,
5.Jones,
6.Uggs,
7.McCann,
8.Prado,
9.Pitcher

Dan Foust

September 21st, 2011
8:50 am

Find a new batting coach, and then teach Heyward a major league swing.

jefferson

September 21st, 2011
8:54 am

it’s called “Suckin it up, and get out there an at least ACT like you want to WIN. Quit all thi Whinin about my ___ hurts… Guys from Legends of Baseball, who did’nt have no Hotels, Team Doctors, Jacuzzi’s, all this Pampering Atheletes get today.. theyre SPoiled Rotten BRATS.

james schroeder

September 21st, 2011
9:02 am

Have a team meeting, then show them 1991:The Miracle Season followed by 1992:Lightening Strikes Twice. Then look for fire in their eyes, because if its not there, they are dead.
then you might check out this good braves blog
http://chopspringseternal.blogspot.com/

reckingball

September 21st, 2011
9:13 am

Dig up Eric Gregg, pay him off, and see if MLB will let him ump the remaining games of 2011.

reckingball

September 21st, 2011
9:17 am

008 @7:13am……Playoffs? What do you mean playoffs?

reckingball

September 21st, 2011
9:18 am

Also, agree with taking Lowe off of the mound.

joe

September 21st, 2011
9:21 am

Too late now, but stop pitching O’Flar/Vent/Kimb so damn much. Read the other day all 3 are over 75 appearances. Did you know Mariano Rivera never pitched 75 in any season?

joe

September 21st, 2011
9:23 am

Also, shut down Lowe for the remaining games, including playoffs if they make it. Would rather see one of our rookies out there in his spot…he’s done!

Buckwheat

September 21st, 2011
9:47 am

First, spell your name correctly. Who do you think you are; Jimmi Williams?

Braves fan from birth

September 21st, 2011
11:45 am

The most glaring issue with Fredi since the beginning of the season has been how to utilize the bullpen. We obviously have tons of talent there, but you have to know when to take them out when they just don’t have their stuff that night, especially with the rockstars. No need to waste their energy when they’re having an off night. It happens to everyone. Don’t belabor the point, and don’t wait for relievers to work out the kinks. They’re not starters; there’s no time.
Hope Fredi reads this far down. Great idea for a column, Bradley. First time I’ve ever commented, or read past the first few comment entries.

Chris Bowen

September 21st, 2011
12:23 pm

Lifelong Cardinal fan here. There is no way my Redbirds are catching the Braves, 2-1/2 out with 8 to play is a pretty tall order, so relax, and get ready to enjoy the playoffs. The Cards are playing pretty good right now, but its way too little and way too late.

sidslid

September 21st, 2011
1:37 pm

Fredi’s use of the bullpen last night was “Game 4 against the Indians with Pedro Borbon” gutsy. Now he has his boys rested for tonight. If Venters and Kimbrall can’t do it tonight, they are toast and so are the Braves as they don’t have a seven inning pitcher on the roster.

Arch Wallace

September 21st, 2011
2:46 pm

Fredi is a formula manager. Starting pitchers are suppose to go 6 innings by formula.Releivers ahve a set spot. Unfortunately, players don’t necessarily fit the pre-determined formula.If a pitcher begins struggling in the 5th, bend the formula and put someone else in. If a late innig reliever is struggling, change him. It is late in the season. Players are tense. Arms are tired. Lowe is no longer consistently effective; it’s a second half thing. Give him a week off. Use Tehran in his place. Put the speed option back in.
Ralph The Cat

Noholdsbarred

September 21st, 2011
6:00 pm

Just RESIGN!

superiorblogman

September 21st, 2011
6:31 pm

Fredi should resign. He played favorites all year and it killed the locker room even though noone is admitting it. Chipper should leave right with him and stop putting pressure on younger players to carry him to a championship to bolster his weak 1st ballot claims

chris

September 21st, 2011
8:45 pm

Play through it best you can; kudos to these kids who’ve played their hearts out..the veterans have not really stepped up as they needed to in some spots but baseball is 162 games, not 140…the last 20 games of the year count as much as the first 20. we’re just not getting it done and now we do have to hope the cards cool off or we will be singing “see ya next year” tune after a collosial collapse after leading the wild card 10 1/2 games a month ago…OUCH

chris

September 21st, 2011
8:52 pm

The bloggers on here who are asking for Fredi G’s head are without hope. The Braves have played hard all year even through this stretch. The manager can’t run, hit field or pitch. The starting pitching has went south and with the injuries its just made things worse. I have no problems with the managing, I have a serious problem with over paid players like LOWE who should have been traded to Detroit at the deadline and his 5+ ERA. We needed another bat in addition to Bourne and some life in this lineup to shake things up. That issue goes up higher on the food chain to Wren and management. Just got to pray the baseball Gods have not put on a Red hat just yet and the Mets can give us some help tonight and tommorow and we break this Washington jinx this weekend.

Runnin With The Dawgs

September 21st, 2011
9:05 pm

We’re playing like we did in the pre- Glavine, Maddux, Smoltz days. Did you hear what I said? Glavine, Maddux, Smoltz . GREAT PITCHING! We don’t have a pitcher in our starting rotation as good as either of these guys was in their prime,and we had all three on the same team. My advice is to keep hunting for great pitching and you’ve GOT to send the average pitchers on down the road.

Runnin With The Dawgs

September 21st, 2011
9:09 pm

Take away all incentives and impose as many pay cuts as possible untill we make the playoffs!

bravesfaninstl

September 21st, 2011
9:24 pm

1. Remove Derek Lowe from the rotation and put anybody else in there. We are guaranteed a loss every time he takes the mound. Tell Frank Wren to trade him ASAP.

2. Send Jason Heyward to AAA. Should have been there two months ago. That way he can get his swing straight and be back in Atlanta for next season.

3. Tell Chipper Jones to quit complaining about being in the 2 hole. Fredi is the manager last time I checked and not Chipper.

4. Most importantly: Fredi needs to be his own man and find his own voice. The shadow of Bobby Cox looms to much over this team. His “player friendly” approach got us one World Series when we should have won at least 2 or 3. He doesn’t need to pander to Chipper or Heyward. If Heyward needs to go to AAA then send him to AAA until he can get his act together. Fredi needs to manage his way and not Cox’s way.

Tell Chipper to hit in the 2 hole or in the 8 hole. Point is: Gonzalez is the manager, not Chipper.

Honestly, I think the franchise will not move forward until they move out of the shadow of Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones. They have had their time and its time to move on. Cox may not manage the team anymore, but his presence is still there. Chipper needs to go ahead and retire. There’s other guys that can take his place as leader of the team. Brian McCann being one name that comes to mind. The Braves have a lot of young talent that will continue to develop in the years to come. Hopefully, they can get their act together in the meantime and hold off the Cardinals.

GO BRAVES!!!

Oh Brother

September 21st, 2011
10:15 pm

Cards up…Braves gone! Lowe to pitch the next 6 games and then wash the player cars to try and earn his millions.

Oh Brother

September 21st, 2011
10:19 pm

I wish I was a Cards fan…now that is a team to get excited about.

A bit fed up

September 21st, 2011
10:37 pm

Getting runners on base, in scoring position, and not scoring them is a HUGE PROBLEM. Fredi G. just shakes it off “that will come.” Really it hasn’t come all freaking year. I think it is time to try to produce some runs. Isn’t that why we traded for speed? Play some freaking small ball. Hell steal home if you have to, just score a run!!!!!!!!!!

Clifford Ruff

September 22nd, 2011
3:54 am

Against right-handed pitching I’d go 1. Bourn 2. Contanza 3. C. Jones 4. Uggla 5. McCann 6. Freeman 7. Heyward 8. Gonzo 9. Pitcher……..Against lefties 1. Bourn 2. C. Jones 3. Prado 4. Uggla 5. McCann 6. Hinske 7. Diaz 8. Gonzo 9. Pitcher…..and mix the young pitchers like Delgado and Minor in between the veterans…..veteran players like Hinske and others are invaluable this time of year.

Runnin With The Dawgs

September 22nd, 2011
8:25 am

A bit fed up has a good point. We had the bases loaded with nobody out the other night and didn’t score a run. This is not the way a championship team operates. Fredi or somebody needs to figure out how to get runners across the plate when they’re in scoring position. Singles hitters like Constanza go a long way with runners on base.
“GO BRAVES”!

Runnin With The Dawgs

September 22nd, 2011
8:26 am

A bit fed up has a good point. We’re not scoring runs when we have runners on base.

Tom S

September 22nd, 2011
8:44 am

From the time I was 10 years old in Little League we were taught to hit “down” on the ball. Hit the upper half of the ball, put backspin on it and it’ll be hit hard and carry. Other than a couple of players on the current Braves roster, every hitter that comes to the plate looks to have one thing in mind, swing hard, uppercut the ball, and try to hit a home run. What happened to base hits, line drives, that will drive in those runs they are currently leaving on base at an alarming rate.

Arkie

September 22nd, 2011
9:06 am

Fundalmental baseball wins games and helps keep a team out of slumps. Single or walk, steal a base, hit and run, sac fly, good defense. ability to move runners into scoring position, hitting the ball where it is pitched, etc. Since most of our wins seem to come on home runs, this points to our problems. UPPER MANAGEMENT HAS ALWAYS seemed to be part of the problem, not the solution. Traded for older players on the down side of their careers, traded good young promsing talent for these. Build a strong house (team) and it will stand. Ours is crumbling. We have a good team that needs a few pieces and leadership from the coaches. Great teams have superior coaches, do we? NO.

SouthPhillyGirl

September 22nd, 2011
9:53 am

c’mon, Braves. Start playing like it means something. Stop tipping your cap to the other team. That’s is what I would tell them. It may sound like hollow advice coming from a Phils phan, but I would much rather play anyone else besides the Cards right now :) Phils are just phoning it in right now, as they have nothing on the line. I hope that shakes off, come October. Good luck. Tough to watch your team lie down.

ken

September 22nd, 2011
10:12 am

It is my humble opinion that the Braves made a huge mistake by replacing one inept manager with another one. This guy is a clone of the previous one in that he has no idea what to do to get the best out of his team. The Braves need a manager with a lot more fire who is not afraid to put the best lineup on the field regardless. How can anyone develop any kind of cohesiveness when they are not sure when or if they will be playing. There is no doubt with the talent on this team, they should be coasting right now getting ready for the post season but as you can see they are struggling to hold off the surging Cardinals who have far less talent in their lineup. Folks, let us wake up and smell the coffee. Freddie G. is is not what the Braves needed and until we face this truth we will continue to see what we are seeing right now….

Don

September 22nd, 2011
11:04 am

Perhaps the most AMAZING thing in recent baseball history is the fact that the Braves have continued to keep McDowell as their Pitching Coach. Right now they have 3 of their 4 best pitchers (all young) down with injuries – JJ, Hanson, and Medlin. And the bigger problem is that this is NOTHING NEW — What have they had – 2 or 3 of their starters down with injures EVERY YEAR since he has become the Pitching Coach (to say nothing of relief pitchers) – every year – YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. One year, wasn’t it 4 out of the 5 projected starters. There is no way to be competitive with this happening. Be it his conditioning program, the way he handles pitchers, or just bad luck, we are far past due to try something else. There was nothing like this under Leo.

Patrick

September 22nd, 2011
11:25 am

@Benjamin If the Braves to join the likes of the ‘64 Phillies, and the Cardinals take the Wild Card, people should note that it was the Cardinals who the ‘64 Series against the Yankees in 7 games.

Patrick

September 22nd, 2011
11:31 am

@ken You said the Cardinals have “far less talent” than the Braves? Um, how can you fairly make that comparison? Last time most pundits have weighed in, if St. Louis had not of blown 23 saves, they could be rivaling Phillie for the top seed. Also, why don’t you check out the comparison to runs scored. St. Louis 725, Atlanta 627. You might want to do a little bit more research before spouting off.

Fire_Larry_Parrish

September 22nd, 2011
11:41 am

FIRE LARRY PARRISH. The biggest problem for the Braves not just this year, but for past couple of years have been hitting. TP has been great for a while taking over Clarence Thomas and Don Bailer’s job as a hitting coach, but TP had lost respect and trust from lot of his players for past few years. Larry Parrish IS A JOKE. Not sure, what Braves saw in him to become their hitting coach. The bottom line is Braves have not had a legit hitting coach in a while. NEED TO HIRE A NEW HITTING COACH NEXT YEAR.

Bernard

September 22nd, 2011
11:46 am

Cut Derek Lowe…let only the kids pitch!!!…if you can’t hit , then bunt…run…steal bases…even home if you have to…hit & run…better defense…get another hitting coach…intentially walk brave killers…beat Nationals…that is lesser teams to a pulp!!!…stop babying the non achieving millionaires…ITS A GAME FOR BLANK SAKES!!!! work the count…DO not WALK lousy hitters…promote only good playmakers and get rid of the .240 “sluggers?”…WAY TOO MUCH MEDIOCRITY ….the BRAVES REALLY SSSSUCK!!!!

mike

September 25th, 2011
9:27 am

put hinske in left, constanza right. bourne leadoff,constanza , chipper ,mccann,ugla,freeman,gonzalez,hinske. need to make things happen.these two at top will do just that.c’mon braves,dont make me eat my words to all my friends and co-workers.i always tell them to ‘ never give up on the braves ‘ .please get it together. freddie needs to throw a tantrum !