McCann’s on the DL. Do the Braves HAVE to land a big bat?

FIRST!

Just like Coach Saban & THE TIDE!!!

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This is copied from my post on Jeff Schultz’s thread:

The Braves’ announcers talked about how the Pirates’ writers had told them how frustrating it was to watch the Pirates sometimes as far as getting runs home. Hmm, I think we Braves fans can relate. Last night we all got the answer to the age-old question: “What happens when an immovable object goes up against ANOTHER immovable object?”.

We could use a pick-up on offense, no question.

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We will miss Brian McCann the next couple weeks.

Aside from his potent bat, who doesn’t love to see chubby kids run the bases?

Oh, by the way: Buster Olney & ESPN Blow.
MLB Network all the way!

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Maybe some of the trainers from the Thrashers are still in town. Seems like everyone of their goalies had core issues. Call them now.

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4th!!!

just like Alabama in the SEC West

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Big bat was needed back in May. Yes, Yes, a thousand times yes……trouble is there may not be a “big” bat available besides Beltran.

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I certainly have no faith that Wren will make a good move.

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Mark,
Brian McCann is the catalyst for our team, not to mention our best hitters and team leader along with Chipper. Atlanta has clear needs heading into this weekend’s trade deadline. Our relief staff will probably need another arm behind our top three, however I have read reports Atlanta has promoted Viscaino to Triple A to work as a reliever a possible precursor for the rest of the season in the bigs. In a perfect world I would not add any offensive players to our team, the fact being our players play to their potential. Martin Prado is a very good player, however displayed last night his timing is off and he is not a pure lead off hitter. Jason Heyward clearly hasn’t proven himself in to a power bat and dependable hitter in just his second season. Chipper is great, with out a doubt in my mind, however injury plagued especially at this time. Uggla is coming around, however I am not sold he is able to carry the team on his bat when it counts most i.e. last night in many scoring opportunities after the first few innings of the game. Gonzalez is in a terrible slump, freeman is great, and we cannot count of McClouth especially when is not in our team’s future plans. The most significant fact of the matter is our team is still relatively as whole, inexperienced, and performing at dismal rates against left-handed pitching (remember Cliff Lee and Hamels are both lefties). Adding Beltran only makes sense to provide an additional bat, outfielder, plus he has the highest on base percentage in the league and has been money in playoff opportunities. We signed Erik Hinske for a veteran experienced bat, that called has worked out, we need to try it again to give our team a sustaining chance not only to make the playoffs but make a run. Our staff is strong, our prospects are stronger and deep, in my humble opinion giving up one prospect in Minor (not going to be a 1 starter) is Atlanta’s way of showing they care about their fans, the team, and the city.

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there is no way I would trade one of those young pitchers for Beltran.

Ship Derek Lowe for another bat other than Beltran and bring Minor up permanently

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They key is getting healthy. Braves haven’t had Chipper, McCann, Prado, Heyward, and (the real) Uggla in the same lineup since April. The lineup is fine with everyone healthy. But, as we keep seeing, can’t seem to get everyone healthy.

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After last night the trade value of Proctor,Martinez and Lugo may never be higher. I say package all 3 for Kemp. If the Dodgers insist on Lowe then I think Wrenn has to give in to the Dodgers demands for Lowe. Just sayin…

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They don’t really have to. The goal obviously is the wild card. They’ll make the playoffs and lose just like last year.

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I’m not sure why people are so hung up on Minor though. Gilmartin is Mike Minor 2. I’d totally take 2 months of hopefully healthy Beltran.

Have you seen our Outfield?

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Let’s just calm down for one minute, please. The Braves are 6 games behind the Phillies. We have 6 games left against them. Yes, it will hurt not having McCann for a couple of weeks. But, Ross is an excellent catcher who could start for almost any team in baseball. We have Chipper back. Yes, Prado is struggling, but how long do you think that will last? We have the best (or second best) pitching staff in baseball. We have a strong bench that will fill for theses injuries as they have all season. Just everyone get a grip.

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If the Braves win anything this year or even if they dont not enough can be said for how much Christian Martinez has done for this team when they needed him and even last year he was pretty good, not sure why he is not seen on the same level as Venters and Kimbrel.

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@mark- this is getting funny with the AJC….no matter what happens each day….there is an article that suggests we trade a top pitching prospect for minor. i wonder what the new reason will be tomorrow. a little predictable at this point. no offense

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@Nateforpresident, Minor is considered elite because he was drafted in the first round. But he was drafted in the first round because the Braves knew he would sign at slot, not because he was elite. Most scouts had him, and still have him, pegged for a backend starter. That the Braves would build him up to be something more makes sense. That they themselves believe that he is something more does not. There’s always a chance you could be wrong but no one should be crying in their beer if he’s the one sent packing for a bat.

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No! For two months of Carlos Beltran who’ll end up back in NY next year. Nobody, but nobody, EVER has enough pitching. Beltan looks good in comparison but if everybody else in the lineup isn’t clicking then you pitch around Beltran. Look at his splits against the Philly four. You build from within and while the farm system is there to serve the big league club you don’t get better by making Texira – Beltran type deals. How do you guys think that the Mets got to this point?

Fred McGriff type deals come along once in a generation and people forget that as exciting as that ‘93 year was the Phillies, yes the Phillies went to the WS that year instead of the 103 win Bravos. Put Minor and Viz in that bullpen in Sept (one should be up now and replace Proctor) and forget about giving the Mets a future starting pitcher.

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Who do the Braves see as their starting 5 next year anyways? JJ,Hudson,Hanson,Beachy and Lowe right? 2013? JJ,Hudson,Hanson,Beachy,Teheran 2014? JJ,Hanson,Beachy,Teheran,Delgado soo even if the Braves Keep Minor I really dont see where he fits in the plans for the future?

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With everybody healthy, they have better hitters than the SF Giants had last year when they won it all.

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I believe JJ and Hanson are Boras guys. They won’t be here for ever.

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@Nateforpresident, I think you’re exactly right, except that I think Vizcaino ends up in the rotation and Delgado in the bullpen, but we’ll see. Minor provides depth, which is great, but depth is also from where you fill other holes. Plus keep in mind that Medlen should eventually be back and the Braves drafted Gilmartin this year, which is again an uninspiring pick, but one that was taken largely due to how close he is to being ML ready.

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per the braves brian is probably gone only 15 days. enough with the “trade it all or we are dead mentality” this team has always surprised us when the chips are down. at least Ross is a right-hander and an excellent catcher. let’s just say brian is getting a nice vacation to make him healthy for the rest of the season. think positive.

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Hey Roll tide. (Gene Chizik) is not the cheater. You better be worried about the suit scandal that is starting to break. Trent Richardson just gave his BCS jersey to this guy out of the goodness of his own heart? Why does the store owner have 2 National Championship rings, and sit in your suites. Go kill a tree in your trailer park , so you can feel better about life and 28-27

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Since the AJC and Cheating Lil Nikki Saban and is scared to take on the Bammer Nation.
Here is some proof that Alabama is cheating once again. Lets remind everyone they are the school in Alabama that is on Probation, not Auburn.

http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/alabama-players-relationship-with-t-town-menswear-store-could-be-problematic/78476

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We can use all those young arms in the pen down the stretch when the rosters get expanded, so we don’t need to trade for relief help unless Mike Adams gets cheaper. We need a CF or a right handed right fielder to platoon with Heyward against lefties until Jay-Hey can figure it out. I like BJ Upton or the CF for the Cubs if you want to go a cheaper route.

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@A Brave in Minnesota, where do you live? I’m at Lake Harriet in the metro.

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mark, not sure how wren thinks he can get what we OBVIOUSLY need without giving up one of our many prospects. this lineup has too many holes, too many .228 hitters, too many injuries, too many .140 against lefty hitters, to not be desperate for a big bat. help me out here, please

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Needed a bat since Spring Training. Don’t need to give up Minor, or other top prospects, for a two month rental. Stay with what you’ve got and let the chips fall where they may on this season.

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After watching the Braves for the last few years, I believe the team as a whole should take a different approach to hitting, especially in clutch situations. Whether spoken or not I also believe there are rivalries going on among the players, such as the new additions versus the old timers. I think adding a new player, especially one from New York, will only add fuel to the late season competitive fire that is already burning between the players.

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The Braves scored 4 runs in 29 innings and you are asking if they need a big bat? Laughable

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My gut keeps telling me that the Braves should make a trade with the Rays and go for BJ Upton over Beltran. He is still only 26, has 15 HR’s 53 rbi’s even though his BA is only .227. He has so much more upside and we could sign him long term at a cheaper price. I have a feeling that he would come to Atlanta and become a stud!

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Every time the Braves sign or trade for a “big bat,” the guy always seems to forget how to hit the minute he puts on a Braves uniform (Uggla, Ankiel, Lee, Gonzalez, Glaus, McClouth, etc.) Beltran will do the same thing – he will surely disappoint as the next “big bat.” Turner Field is a pitcher’s park, plain and simple. If the Braves are to win at all, it will be because of their pitching. You can never have too much good pitching, especially if you are the Braves. Prado will soon get his timing back, and Chipper and McCann will be back for the stretch run. They don’t need another 2-month rental at the cost of another live young arm. DON’T DO IT.

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This feels exactly like the end of last season. HOLY FRUSTRATION. Now we only have two guys in the line-up who feel dangerous – Freddie and Uggla. The rest of the team has either underperformed or is hurt. And this all comes just days after we all felt the offense was finally hitting its stride. I love Chipper, but my lord, his body is a disaster. Jey Hey and Prado look out of sorts. Gonzalez is lost. Now would be a great time for a younger AAA player to step up and plug the holes. Because there are many.

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I do not see why everyone is so sold on Minor. I like the kid, but honestly, if was not a left-handed pitcher, the trade would be made. Think of it this way…both Beachy and Minor were in competition for the 5th starter role in Spring Training. If Beachy was not light years ahead of Minor, Minor would have been with the team from the start, but instead, we elected to go with a 5th right-hander. That tells you something right there.

We need a bat immediately…more so with McCann out indefinitely. For all we know, this oblique could land him on the DL for 30 to 45 days. The Division simply does not look promising, but we must scramble now to secure the Wild Card. I don’t like Beltran as he is a Met and has a history of injury, but right now he is the absolute best fit for our needs. Get him here for Minor, secure the Wild-Card, and take it to the Phillies in the playoffs. No potential playoff team out there matches up as well as we do with the Phillies. Beltran will allow us to keep pace with the Phillies or even surpass them (as a team, not the standings this late in the year) despite the trades that they make.

In the playoffs, it is a coin-toss on who wins a Phillies/Braves series. In my opinion, it is a no-brainer to do what it takes to get us there.

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If McCann had eaten more of his hamburgers and done fewer sit-ups this past offseason, he wouldn’t have so many oblique muscles to strain.

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I think addding Hunter Pence to our team as a permanent member is a good idea. It will be costly. Houston will want something valuable in return and resigning Pence will be expenseive, but we will have a team in place for now and for the future. I hated losing Wainwright for a rental. I liked getting Smoltz for over a decade. Get Pence and keep him. We need a bat and a centerfielder.

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Trade Minor, Schaeffer and a AA prospect to Mets for Beltran or Astros for Pence. Or that package to Rays for Upton. Make something happen Frank W. This team doesn’t hit enough to justify the pitching staff anyway. All we have to show for it arfe a large number of well pitched losses with quality starts inside of them.

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It appears we are falling out of the Beltran sweepstakes. Looks like the Giants may snag him. Just as well – Boras client. Agree with Southpaw, go for Pence even if it means one of four solid pitching prospects and any position player off the major league roster short of McCann, Prado or Freeman.

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WHat good is pitching if you lose games 3 to nothing?

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Frank Wren is 100% right to tell the Mets to shove it! Of course the Mets want one of our top four minor league pitchers. It is because any one of them could likely start right now on the Mets roster! Furthermore, all of these four pitchers are among the best prospects in all of baseball!

I would rather sign a contract right here, right now formally foregoing the playoffs than agree to the Mets’ terms. The Braves are not the Yankees and without that huge payroll option cannot just replace one star with another! Therefore, like most teams in baseball (the Mets being one of the few exceptions) you have to live on the value of your farm system.

That the Mets cannot get it done despite their big checkbook proves that you still need a good farm system. Part of the reason the Braves are struggling in their lineup is the Tex trade.

Yes, no doubt last night/morning was a tough one, and no doubt the Braves hitters are hitting a rough patch for nagging and chronic injuries. But, the Braves stand poised to have one of the best lineups and pitching staffs in baseball for the next decade. And you don’t harm that with a two month rental to make the playoffs, especially when you cannot afford yourself to replenish those losses with bit ticket free agent signings.

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Ross always plays really well, I’m not actually that concerned about this injury. I think you stay the course and don’t trade out of desperation. I would be manning the wires though looking for trades. Bullpen concerns me a lot more.

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More stellar reporting Mark…everyone…Mark is basically conceding that if you want any insight go over to ESPN.com…that’s his source…Do you have any leads or research capability Mark?

The Braves are a mid-market team plain and simple. Unfortunately they have a lot of $$$ tied up in Chipper and a failed pitcher who is in AA playing out his contract. F Wren has learned, most likely, from the terrible Texiera trade (how many All-Stars did the Rangers get?) and needs to groom the team more in the image of say the Twins.

GF2

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It appears to be Beltran to the Rangers or Giants the Braves out i think we go after Pence or Rasmus maybe a Ludwick .

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I’d give up one of the minor league pitchers for Beltran immediately. We don’t need 7 starters. And can we throw in McLouth as well. His bad play on Monday definitely cost us the game and his play last night should have cost us the game. Throwing to the wrong base and not being able to get down a bunt are inexcusable for a major league player.

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Ya’ll need to understand that the asking prices for Beltran and Pence are not even close. The Mets asked for the Braves’, Phils’, and Giants’ best prospects, and all of the teams said no way. Beltran will only cost a pair of descent prospects. The Astros are asking for a deal surrounding 2 of the big 4 (Minor, Teheran, Delgado, and Vizcaino) for Pence, aka they want the moon. We simply need a big bat to fill in for Mac. Beltran is not out of reach if we overpay for him. If we don’t want to do that we should pursue the little-mentioned Carlos Quentins and Marlon Byrds of the market. But now with the injury sustained to Brian it is no longer “should we get a big bat or a leadoff man?” It’s “Which big bat should we/are we going to land?”

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Theo you are exactly right. they want two not one. If the Astros would take just Minor and a couple of lesser names he would have already been in the line up last night

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The value of Beltran to the Braves is questionable. Other teams will simply pitch around him. What does that get us but another runner left on base. It is too late to expect a miracle for this injury ridden, lack of hitting team to get to the playoffs. Trades made in desperation tend to cause a team to give up too much for what they get in return.

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Without a doubt they need a bat!!!!! Heyward is the biggest BUST and DISSAPOINTMENT since Francouer……needs to be sent back to the Minors – maybe he can re-learn to hit – Larry Parrish is obviously a waste of a hitting coach and needs to be given his walking papers!

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Yes, McCann injury changes the thinking. We no longer need a Willingham-type, we need an everyday big bat for the middle of the order. Current lineup:

Schafer/McLouth
Prado
Chipper
Freeman
Uggla
Heyward
Ross
Gonzalez

Now, Wren has to consider the following:

1. Chipper’s availability CANNOT be counted on
2. Ross will not play every day. His replacement will likely be a near-sure out.
3. Schafer, Heyward, McLouth, and Gonzo are not exactly tearing up opposing pitching
4. We still need a bullpen arm

Bold move is in order, like Beltan-Reyes-Relief pitcher from the Mets, or some combination involving Pence from Houston. Wren will need to shop for an experienced MLB catcher to back up Ross, too, though that shouldn’t cost a lot. I would definitely trade ONE or TWO top pitching prospects, and I’d have a preference for getting players back who can bridge the gap to the next corner outfielder (on the horizon when Chipper retires). There is still a way to do this without mortgaging the future, but if nothing substantial is done they can pack it in for the year because this team is not going to make the playoffs.

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@ Never Trade Young Pitching……..I live in the Twin Cities (St. Paul) area….I was born and raised in Athens, GA (where B Mac was born), but moved up here two years ago for my job.

Anyways……..I wish the Braves the best of luck for the rest of the season and I hope that they can get thru this mess and still make it to the playoffs……..hell, at least they are doing better than the Twins up here!! LOL!

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RollTide…….funny you Bammers talk about cheating…….looks like the NCAA is about to ROLL into t-town to lets say a local clothier?

Yes of course the Braves need a bat like Beltran…….for all of the woonderful dominate pitching we have had over the last 20 years……we have a total of 1 world series wins!

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You don’t have to give up a top prospect for Beltran…

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Rasmus might be heading to the Jays.

Yeah, we could use a hitter. However, I’d take someone hitting a slow roller to short with a runner at third, no outs and the infield back…instead of striking out, popping out on the infield and flying out to left center to end the inning.

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The Braves need to do what is best to get the Wild Card, because that is all they are going to likely see this year. At six games back of Philly, if the Phils go 35 and 25, the Braves need to go 41 and 18 to pass them. Odds are gainst that. Like a lot of people on this board, I am unclear why they are so hung up on dealing Minor. There is reason you have prospects – for moments like this one – you never know if they will pan out, but you do know what Beltran has done for 10+ years.

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They’re hung up an dealing him because he’s a lefty. JJ, Hanson, Beachy, Teheran, Delgado, and Vizcaino are all righties. He’s not elite, but a lefty in the back of the rotation would be nice.

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I would not be upset to see minor traded. He is good but not great and we have plenty of other pitchers coming up.

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Hoosier Aaron – HAHA agreed!

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Personally, I’m totally fine with trading either Delgado or Vizcaino. I can’t see either one of them developing into much of anything. Once Huddy and Lowe are gone, it will be nice to stick the lefty Minor in the back of the rotation. If we have to give up Delgado and/or Vizcaino to get a big bat(s), then I say we do it.

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Agree with ESPN or not…this sums it up pretty good about why the Braves need to do the Beltran deal and the truth about the future of Mike Minor:

McCann injury paves way for Beltran deal
July, 27, 2011 Buster Olney ESPN

The Atlanta Braves survived 19 innings and won Tuesday night, aided at the end by a terrible call. But in the big picture, the night was not good for the Braves, because they lost All-Star catcher Brian McCann — an MVP candidate in the National League — to an oblique strain.

For the Braves, then, the question of whether they should give up pitching prospect Mike Minor in a deal for Carlos Beltran might have a different context. Atlanta already needed a middle-of-the-order hitter before McCann got hurt, because of Chipper Jones’ knee and muscle issues and the struggles of Alex Gonzalez, Nate McLouth and Jason Heyward.

As of this morning, sources say, the Mets are making progress in trade talks with the Rangers and Giants; they are not making progress with the Braves.

These days, teams are reluctant to give up their better prospects, and in the eyes of rival evaluators about Minor, the young left-hander is viewed as a middle-of-the-rotation starter — either a No. 3 or a No. 4. He’s not regarded as a No. 1-type talent, like Julio Teheran; Minor is regarded as a very good prospect. And if I were sitting in the Atlanta front office, I’d make the deal.

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Buster Onley is reporting that Beltran to the Braves could happen after all with the injury’s to McCann and Shaffer .

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the braves need several bats they need a good hitting right fielder also need a shortstop and need a center fielder and move prado to third and of course need a left fielder and relief pitching mr. wren has a lot of work ahead of him to fix this slumping team im a big braves fan but they have alot of weakness

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What’s wrong with calling up Stefan Gartrell from Gwinnett ? He has been terrorizing IL pitching much like Freeman did last year.

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Please do not mention Prado and Heyward in the same sentence when talking about their hitting.

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I am now convinced that we need a big bat …. but would rather pay the price to get Pence than buy a 2 month rental.

On the game ending play last night. Obviously the ball beat the runner by a country mile, but that swipe tag …. that actually may have missed Lugo. There is nothing in any replay that I can see that indicates a tag was applied to the runner. The glove doesn’t change directions at all … there is no crease on Lugo’s pant leg.

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Edwin Jackon and Octavio Dotel for Colby Rasmus is going down as we speak?

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agreed…..lets trade our 4 prospects for an injection of fundamental baseball..haha

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Theo, MICHAEL CUDDYER

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I’d better break the news, since Mark Bradley is at the spa getting a mani/pedi.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/27/report-blue-jays-get-colby-rasmus-from-cardinals-for-edwin-jackson-octavio-dotel-and-marc-rzepczynski/

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I’ve gathered from several sources that the likelihood of the Braves landing Bourn are slim to none.

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Braves attendance had gone down way way before 2005.

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Rasmus doesnt listen to his coaches according to LaRussa. We dont need to trade prospects for a cancerous player like that.

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Meh….Rasmus wasn’t going to put us over the edge…..NEXT!!!!!

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Jays would love to swing a deal with us……Yunel is hitting over .300……they should be calling us weekly for trades!

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It will be either Willingham or Quentin

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Quentin switch hits right?

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Quentin’s a righty.

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A guy goes into a restaurant/lounge wearing a shirt open at the collar and is met by a bouncer who tells him he must wear a necktie to gain admission. So the guy goes out to his car and he looks around for a necktie and discovers that he just doesn’t have one. He sees a set of jumper cables in his trunk. In desperation he ties these around his neck, manages to fashion a fairly acceptable looking knot and lets the ends dangle free. He goes back to the restaurant and the bouncer carefully looks him over for a few minutes and then says, “Well, OK, I guess you can come in – just don’t start anything.”

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thats true
bluejays got rasmus
giants are getting beltran

wren is dumpster diving for another norton

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Beltran will start a domino effect… I say at least 5 more “big” deals before the day’s done.

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GIANTS GOT BELTRAN

TY WRENN

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Again we are stuck with the bottom of the heap because WREN SUCKS!!!!!

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Hey, there are still plenty of viable options out there in the form of Byrd, Quentin, Willingham, etc.

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FalconFiend:

I couldn’t agree more with your Byrd comments. Wren would be crazy to trade Minor or any of the other prime pitching prospects for Beltran. As you pro-trade players should have learned by now, trading for a “big time” bat doesn’t guarantee anything (e.g. Texeira and so far Uggla). Consider also all of the following:

(1) Beltan has no cartilage in at least one of his knees and thus is an injury waiting to happen at any time (probably within 1 week if the Braves trade for him);

(2) Beltran can’t play CF on a full-time basis (if he can still play it all);

(3) Beltran is a Boras client which means that the Braves would have 2 chances to sign him beyond this year: fat and none; and

(4) The team that loses Beltran does not get ANY compensation when he signs elsewhere due to a clause in his contract.

Sure it is easy for ESPN and some of you folks on here who prefer to panic because McCann will miss a few weeks to say let’s pull the trigger on Minor because he supposedly isn’t one of the best pitching prospects and thus is presumably “expendable”. One thing I have learned over the years is that you NEVER have enough pitching and I sure wouldn’t want to see Minor pitching effectively for the Mets against us for the next decade.

P.S. If the Braves really want Beltran and they wait until Sunday, they won’t have to part with a prime prospect to get him–the pressure would then be too great on the Mets to get something for him given his contract and the fact that they said they will trade him. If some other team is stupid enough to overpay for him prior to that, thank God Wren didn’t do it.

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We could probably get Willingham and Wuertz from the A’s

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Some teams win championships. Some teams wonder why they can’t sell tickets even though they have hot minor league prospects.

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POSTGAME QUOTES

Prado wow 0/9 really?where is my mommy at?
Agon hey!norton taught taught me how to hit?
FF Hey espn??where is my damn commerical??
Chipper what happened,we lost or won?Sorry i was at hooters
Heyward shhhhhhh im tweeting
Bmac We are doomed,always next year
Proctor Release me so i can shut u guys out,u guys really suck at hitting
FG tip your cap to proctor,one helluva pitcher and batter
Schafer shhh dont tell anyone the peds are great,how else am i going to go 2/4 with a broke hand?Man,i hope no drug test this time.

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Byrd hasn’t played much this year due to injury, but he is back now and hitting .313 with exceptional defense

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Beltran to Giants what do we do now all you guys whining about Beltran we only would have had him for a couple of months i agree that the Rasmus thing stings didn’t a lot of you guys say don’t get Beltran There still Pence that is the block and Ludwick and White Sox are trading everyone .

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rob

how did that pitching work out in the 90s?1 world series
btw hows that hope and change working out for ya??

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PENCE IS CLOSE TO SIGNING WITH THE PHILLIES

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WHAT?!?!?!?! Pence to the Phils????? Now we HAVE to do something…

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To Roll Tide:

Nothing has been proven about Chizik. War Eagle–2010 National Champions!

And we got a gift last night, but we’ll take it! We do need a RH bat–we need to get one.

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Real Deal, where did you see pence to phils?

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I wonder if the marlins would be interested in trading Logan Morrison. They may think that their still in the race but with an ailing Josh Johnson, young pitching would be enticing.

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WIN a World Series??? Are you kidding? If the Braves do avoid a collapse and sneak into the playoffs as a wild card, they’ll be swatted aside in the first round. This is a below-average club in every aspect except starting pitching, and is designed to get crushed in the playoffs by teams that can both pitch AND hit.

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I said he was close to signing,did not say he is,

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Beltran in closing deal with Giants..anytime now

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I love the Braves but I am getting very tired of these strained obliques. I have never heard of a team having so many of the same strange “injuries”. I don’t think they are faking, but they need to stretch better or something.

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fred

duhh

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Morrison is way too good and way too young for them to consider moving him. He’s part of their core for the future that’s built around Stanton.

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Joefan, there is a reason he is in the minors at 27 years of age

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Take a chance on Upton without giving up too much… he may take off here.

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phillies are trying hard with astros to get pence

source mlbtraderumors.com

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we should at least inquire about Matt Kemp

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if thats the case wren is so high on schafer,god only knows,other option is upton,ludwick,wallingham.

THAT IS IT

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THEO

Phillies already said worley is available

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That game was terrible last night. The braves need to learn how to bunt if they can’t drive runners in from second with less than 2 outs.

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agree at kemp
this is what i said last year…
get mcuthcen i was fried here,im laughing now,huh?
just dont get what this team loves schafer so much and wont even ask about bourn,no one is telling me why that is.
kemp,ethier are not available

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It doesn’t matter who the Braves acquire. When players arrive in Atlanta they can’t hit

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They said Worley and Brown are off the table and i haven’t heard anything different. They want to turn the 4 headed monster into the 5 headed monster once Oswalt gets back.

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My sources are telling me what i said all along…

FW is looking for a rh bat OFF THE BENCH,and a middle reliever

NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

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theo
go to the website,and a few days ago on mlb traderumors also confirmed it

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whoever is playing hot at end of season makes and wins the world series ,ask sf

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We NEED an impact bat now. I wouldn’t have disagreed so strongly with Wren 24 hrs ago, but I sure do now. When your best hitter goes down in the middle of your playoff endeavors and you have the chips to make a move you do it. It’s that simple.

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gm for philly said yesterday he has no prob paying for a luxury tax,no nl team has yet to pay a luxury tax.philly will make a move,they dont want brown,mulberry in the postseason to choke,they would like someone like a veteran pence or franceur

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Ludwick and Willingham will be gone next year..rental players..

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“He’s the biggest bat on a team that has no other big bats.”

These are words that could only be spoken by someone who is not watching the games. Mark, have you ever heard of a young man named Freeman? Or a guy named Uggla. You know, he has hit a few dingers lately.

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I personally am not too high on Ludwick, but he’s better than nothing. Quentin is my player of choice at this point.

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I agree Wren is blowing it i think that is the problem is that Wren take to long before he decides on a trade then its to late .

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raw onion

if you go to the site you will see the source of where they got the info at,gee whiz my friend

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theo

where is quentin going to play?he has never played cf before ever,however pence has,upton also i take either one of those,cant hurt to dream.

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I don’t like a Pence deal cuz that’s giving up waaay too much. Guys are getting on base, hence our ridiculous LOB stats recently. What we need is a guy who can drive those runs in, hence the trade for a big bat.

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We’ll stick Quentin in LF and keep Shafer/McLouth at CF. Quentin doesn’t solve our leadoff issues so we have to keep that platoon in the game.

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ultimately we will be disappointed by what, if he does anything, Wren does.

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bench chipper,schafer,ross conrad,heinske

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Heywood and Minor for Pence…….very simple way to make it to October.

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Wren is a used car dealer, he knows nothing about dealing for new cars..just the 100,000 miles plus cars..Thats why Atlanta win never win the 500 on used cars.

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Some of you guys spend to much time playing Fantasy Baseball.

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B.J. Upton is our answer. He has a bat and speed. Enough said!!!!!!
Oh I almost forgot, Schultz and Bradley suck!!!!!!!

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I admit the call at the end of the game was bad, but so was the strike zone for the braves hitters!!!

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Also for all you guys talking about Upton. I pointed this out last night during the marathon blog…Upton heading to last nights action was 7 for his last 44 or hitting .159 over the past two weeks. I think we got enough crap hitters on the team to go acuire another one. Might aswell leave Schafer in.

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Heywood and Minor for Pence would be the ultimate move. Heywood makes Frenchie
look like an All Star. In fact if we can’t get Pence give Jeff a second chance.

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3 hall of fame starters equalled1 WS title in 14yrs.No one in a Brave uniform at any level is even close to the big 3.What’s the point of hoarding pitchers.The Marlins won two WS in 6 years the Braves 1 since moving to Atlanta.Do the math .

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Zach Wheeler upper tier Giant prospect for Beltran.

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Give mets Delgado, he gave up 10 runs last nite in 2 2/3 innings

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ATLER, I completely agree, would love to have Upton. So what if his average is low the dude is an all world talent and when he does get on the guy can run. Plus the last time I checked a .240 average is better than a .237 or .229. Oh and not to mention Upton has an amazing glove in center.

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Why is Vick losing an endorsement deal news for the AJC? Can the haters keep Vick out of their minds and mouths.

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This would be a great name for a rock band: Julio Lugo and the Obliques

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BJ upton is essentially a right handed nate mclouth. Good D, upton has a strong arm. low average, a little pop every once in a while

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However I would love Bourn but thats not gonna happen

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All the pitching in the world ain’t gonna stop da Phils. I guess you have to just pack it up,HOPE we somehow can hold onto wildcard and play for next year when we have some money. Sucks to love a team in the carpetbagger South.
No money EVER.
Frank wants cheap pitching next year so he can buy something. What I don’t know. A new condo?

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After reading the last couple pages, I have to agree with The Real Deal. On Schafer? on bring up Constaza and Gartrell ( put them on 40 man). Bourn and Pence are the Dreams of Fans but not management . Get Upton, don’t forget BJ can play 3b and 2b also.
Don’t believe wren can make a big deal..he’s to cheap to go after the best. Thats why Braves will always be second best.

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If we get Lowe off the books via trade and others via free agency we could land Reyes. Think about that.

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•Two front office men, neither from the Astros or Phillies, told ESPN’s Jayson Stark they believed the Phillies had a deal for Pence only to have the Astros back off. The Phillies offered Jarred Cosart, Jonathan Singelton, and a second-tier pitching prospect for Pence, believes Stark. An Astros official told Stark they haven’t said no to any specific proposal, however.
•The Astros want a “very top pitching prospect” for Pence, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman, and the Phillies are trying hard. However, Heyman says most believe Pence will stay put.

The Braves are not gonna get Pence…they’ve gotta shot at Beltran tho…and we need him! Bad

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Santana just no hit Indians…

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Bill, you are exactly right. Frank Wren is to cheap to go out and get a big time guy. Just look at Beltran. we could have already had him and now he’s going to SF.

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Yesterday’s Ubaldo Jimenez info: about seven teams are in on him, but the Yankees and Reds are best-positioned to make a deal if the Rockies are as motivated as has been reported. So far, the Rockies’ asking price of “three sure-thing young players, including one pitcher who goes into their rotation immediately” has not dropped. The latest:

•The Rockies are in active trade talks with six to eight teams, reports ESPN’s Jayson Stark. A source tells Stark that two NL teams, yet to be identified, are in the mix, and the guess is that one of them is the Nationals

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Upton has played CF exclusively since 2008.

http://www.draftbuddy.com/baseball/players/1667/B.J._Upton

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I cant believe that this ownership and management let Beltran slip out of their hands after B-Mac went down. Anyone who doesn’t wanna get rid of one or 2 of our big 4 prospects is lost(save teheran). We have a window right now to win a world series. How can they NOT make a move and get a real impact bat? If they dont they dont care. I live on Long Island and watch every game and feel so hopeless because i just feel like the front office doesnt care enough about winning.

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Funny how teams like the nats,and bluejays who are both out of it taking chances.

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FW is too much in love with scafer,and the manager dont care if agon hits 100 thats the f problem

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Is there anbody out there? Does anybody want mclout. Think the stress of sucking as a player is getting to him? Getting thrown out last night or was it early this morning over a 3rd strike. He gets called out on strike 3 many times, why was this night different? Heywood has yet to find himself, getting worse as the serason progress’ mclouts boneheaded throw 2 days ago and the error, must be on his mind, my G-d to suck and to have been an all star. The braves could use another catcher temporarily from the minors, who have they got? We don’t need another Tishera [sic] for two months, we need another OF who could be around for a while.

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Man the Braves looks like there are standing pat why everyone else are making a run damn Liberty Group .

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Pieces starting to fall into place. Looks like it’s either a blockbuster bringing Pence or Upton for one or two of our studs or more likely a mid-level acquisition. Would really have a problem letting go of any of our “Big Four” in the minors for anything less than a Pence or Upton.

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SF has the money to sign beltran to a long term deal,this is not a rental for them

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The only bat that interests me is Michael Bourne from Houston….Classic lead off hitter….steals bases great in the field and is batting 60 points higher than our current lead off. Move Prado to the 2 spot and we are set….

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Carlos Quentin of
1 year/$5.05M (2011

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If we DO get Pence. and that’s a big if, where would he fall in the batting order?

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I love this we need to build for next year crap! We won 14 stinking pennants in a row with 3 Cy Young winners, yet only got one World Championship against the not so great Cleveland Indians? 1991 was 20 years ago, put a winning team on the field, now!

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Prado went 0 fer 9 last night/this a.m.
Thats sum bulls***. Turner field is cursed.

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Braves had 20 something singles the past two games. The Braves need some pop in the order. Bourn is nice, but he does not fit the needs IMO.

Pence is a run producer. Going to cost alot with prospects a financially as I believe he will be up for Arbitration. They aquire him FG will bat him 5? I would say third but no way do they drop “Legs” for him.

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theo,CQ contract is 1 yr 5.05 million…will be a free agent after year.

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Hunter Pence of
1 year/$6.9M (2011)

1 year/$6.9M (2011)
won arbitration with Houston 2/19/11 ($6.9M-$5.15M

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@ryan. Are u effin retarded. Tehran is considered the next Pedro. If we trade him I may actually get on a plane, fly to Atlanta, and kick Frank’s ass. That would be so stupid

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I agree with the Hunter Pence proponents! The Braves definitely need a big time player for a lengthy time not a rental. Kemp or Pence would be fine with me. In most cases you have to give up something to get something. The Braves need to stay out of dumpsters looking for left overs. I would hate to see the Braves give up some of the super prospects but at this point they are just that prospects, we need proven stars at this point. Trade Lowe use the money to pick up someone like Ubaldo??

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Gomes went to Nationals, Beltran to Giants, so the options begin dwindling.

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So you say pence will go to lf and prado to third……what about chipper?

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@Theo

@Theo Williams

If you were manager of the Braves and you had a outfielder that is batting 328 with a360 obp and 924 ops and bats 356 against lefties and 308 against righties you would use him off the bench? Thats Reed Johnson

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I have said this on several blogs already, but it bears repeating. This nonsense about the Braves winning the division needs to stop. Yes you can dream, but it aint gonna happen. It was about this time last year that the Phillies got healthy and left us in the dust. Anyone here looked around lately? We’ll get the wildcard and meet em in the NLCS. Stop with the east thing, its already over.

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@Megan

That’s the appropriate attitude to have as an executive of a baseball team with limited payroll. Your prospects are your biggest commodities.

Not so great? That was one of the best offensive lineups in the history of baseball. Lofton, Vizquel, Albert Bell, Thome, Manny Ramirez, Sandy Alomar Jr., Baerga…Eddie Murray was on the bench! Not to mention a guy named Orel Hershiser as their number one starter. You can talk to any baseball analyst and they will tell you how great that team was.

We don’t have money. That’s the bottom line. All the contending teams have owners willing to adjust the payroll as needed to add pieces. Liberty Media will not.

I’m with you, though. I wish we had the resources to put together a championship team.

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Not sure it would make a difference going out and getting one hitter. They need multiple hitters and one is not going to make enough difference to get us out of 2nd in the division. That dip General Manager promised us a good hitting team this year and boy was that a joke. We bought the hype, so shame on all of us.

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A big splash has to be made and Willingham or Ludwick aren’t much of a splash. Pence or Upton…I like both, but if we can land Pence, DO IT!

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OK fine don’t give up Tehran but we need a bat we have do get a Pence or Quinton Upton is a little risky Ludwick or Willingham could be what’s left .

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The sky is not falling in…The Phails have had their fair share of injuries and their replacements have stepped up…time to see if this BRAVES team has what it takes…
GO BRAVES!!!!

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Thats not the Tex deal all over again. Minor and Delgado arent nearly the prospects Feliz and Harriston and Andrus were.

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I didn’t realize that Reed was doing THAT well this year, I just figured that with his age he would be an everyday player, cuz I think he’s 35 or something like that.

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Hey all CAPS……Beltran is going to the Giants

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Do we have a fookin SHORTSTOP?
Dont tell me Tex deal wasnt hell.

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HEY IDIOT BELTRAN IS NOT A 2 MONTH RENTAL,HE WILL SIGN A LONG TERM DEAL IN SF

GIANTS ARE NOT STUPID TO GIVE UP 3 PLAYERS FOR 3 MONTHS.R U GUYS DRUNK OR WHAT?

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Phils had deal for Pence rejected by Pence. They offered Singleton and Cosart and the Astros refused. Aka it’s gonna take A TON to get this guy…

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we have a ss in aaa who will be here next year,lugo is okay if THE OTHER @#$%BRAVES WILL HIT THE DAM BALL

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Heck go get Melky Back…

25 doubles 12 HR 57 RBI 14 SB .299 BA .789 OBP%

Surely it will not cost you much and he can play all three OF positions.

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Theo,Pence could bat anywhere he wants.He is better than what’s there now Mc Cann included.

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We traded Andrus because we had Yunel, who was killing it at the time, was thought to be one of the best up and comers in the league.

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lowcounty..LOL

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http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/27/report-phillies-had-a-deal-for-hunter-pence-but-astros-backed-off/

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braves should offer
minor,delgado,nate
and throw in kk for free
that will do it

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if schafer not playing pence can play cf till he comes back,or bring up constanza

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True Richie but at least to me now the OF bat is exponentially more necessary.

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Winning Pitcher, game winning RBI, classic stumble out of the batters box? He is on fire!

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Lot’s of people saying won’t trade this guy or that guy but as the title of the old game show The Price Is Right comes into play there are very few safe ones.

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PRADO
PENCE
JONES
UGGLA
FREEMAN
ROSS
R JOHNSON
PASTRONICKY

PRADO
PENCE
MC CANN
UGGLA
JONES
FREEMAN
R JOHNSON
PASTRONICKY

JUST DREAMING

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Braves have a window now to go and get Pence how can the Astros turn down this deal Minor and Delgado if Wren has the guts to it no Julio Tehran in the deal .

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Astros not giving up Pence unless they get the farm……and Wren aint giving the Farm.

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this team needs to quit saving all the dam pitchers.How did that work out for ya in the 90s??

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For Pence could we get away with Delgado Pazciano and 2 other lesser known guys? I just think that we need to hold onto Minor and Teheran for the future, although we could have another mlb-ready pitcher by the time Huddy is gone.

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Pence is a quality player but not worth the farm. He is posting career highs in every category. That makes me nervous. He may be peaking since he is that magic age range or he could be playing above his head.

He is a .280 25 HR 85RBI .330 OBP% 115k guy.

That is going to command about 11-12 million this offseason. Is that really worth trading some stud pitching prospects for? I dunno…

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Id give up the farm — Teheran for Pence and Bourn.

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*minus Teheran if that wasn’t clear…

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don@3:07…………Wren was not the GM of the Braves, when the Teixiera disaster happened.

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FW

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Why would Pence want to come here and injure his oblique?

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Trade for Pence AND Bourne. Do it. Build a package around Minor OR Delgado. Just not both

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The latest on the Braves, who weren’t able to acquire Carlos Beltran but at least saw him leave the division…

•Catcher Brian McCann’s oblique injury had zero effect on the Braves’ willingness to meet the Mets’ asking price for Beltran, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.
•Morosi’s colleague Ken Rosenthal tweets that the Braves are turning their attention to the Astros’ Hunter Pence, and have also shown interest in the Padres’ Ryan Ludwick.
•Earlier today, ESPN’s Jayson Stark wrote that other teams remain certain that the Braves will acquire a bat. Though the Braves haven’t been willing to discuss their top pitching prospects, the White Sox are scouting their farm system in case they decide to move Carlos Quentin

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Traderumors say Braves looking hard at Pence, Ludwick. White Sox looking at Braves system in considering a Quentin trade.

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DUMPSTER DIVING IT IS TY FW ONCE AGAIN

THIS IS WHY I DONT GO TO GAMES EVEN THOUGH I HAVE FREE TICKETS TO EVERY HOME GAME

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Why is it that the Giants and Cardinals make moves but
Fabulous Frank Wren sits on his hands?

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I’m a little hesitant on Pence bc we’ve acquired all-stars from crappy teams with no expectations (McClouth, Uggla) then they flame out under the pressure. Beltran would have been ideal for his post-season resume alone – and having played in the scrutiny of the Big Apple.

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Ralph and Theo, u 2 r stupid and if we trade tehran then in 2 years FW will say one word, Fvck!

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That’s is good to hear hopefully something gets done Pence or Quentin i would be fine with get it done Wren .

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@Richie:

Delgado made a spot start for the big club this year and Vizcaino just got called up to Gwinnett. Minor has already 14 starts in the majors. I don’t think anyone is 3-4 years away.

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There is no one left that can help us make a difference

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from being effective at the major league level yes. minor has not been good in the majors and i was mainly speaking of teheran

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I predict we end up with Ludwick, Willingham, or maybe Upton.

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Lowcountry Bulldawg……………….WHERE in the low country are you?

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The only positive about Ludwick is he’ll certainly be coupled with a relief pitcher.

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There are plenty of guys out there who can help us. Have you seen our OF lately???

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Beltran was the prize. Cant wow us now Frankie.

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Low Country Bulldawg…..Another GM-

Aquiring any of those three will not get us closer to winning the WS

I agree 100%. Beltran was the deal and now it is gone!

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Hilton Head

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•Morosi’s colleague Ken Rosenthal tweets that the Braves are turning their attention to the Astros’ Hunter Pence, and have also shown interest in the Padres’ Ryan Ludwick

WHO WANTS TO BET ME WE GET LUDWICK BEFORE PENCE/I GIVE YOU 10-1 ODDS

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The season will be saved by Scott Proctologist!

Dude can pitch, dude can hit, dude can fall flat on his face and still not get put out.

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I respect your opinion and i disagree,if we got beltran,they pitch around him more than they would pence

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“You can never have enough pitching”……AND…..”You never have as much good pitching as you THINK you have”………………..anyone see how Delgado did yesterday?

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Thank God football is close at hand. It always takes the sting outta the Braves season ending escapades.

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My thing is Ludwick solves nothing. He hits for a low average and strikes out a ton. You get an upgrade in power but sacrifice speed. Pretty much sounds like what we have right now… Mike Adams would be nice though.

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braves have aquires wil nieves from the brewers for cash considerations per buster onley and brewer nation twitter page

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Amen, motor!

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I don’t know why we didn’t give up Minor. You can’t have a 7 man rotation. Chipper ain’t getting any younger. Braves are the South Carolina Gamechickens of the NL East. “Wait til next year.”

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Will Nieves fits right in in Atlanta…hes hitting .190

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The past month :

Ludwick

17/87 = .195 AVG. 2 HR 6 Doubles 15 RBI

Not really much of an addition. WOW!

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1:30pm: If nothing happens in the next 24 hours to scuttle the deal, it’s just Wheeler for Beltran and cash, tweets Sherman. The Mets are sending a significant amount of money, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman

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Makes me want to barf. Getting Beltran not only would have helped the Braves, but we wouldn’t have to face him in the playoffs on the Giants or Phillies. Anyone remember the last time we faced him? At least football season is close.

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If out new backup catcher is a sign of things to come then we can kiss an upgrade goodbye.

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I thankfully new a designer, not rich, lol!

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Most people need to remember that this is Liberty Media work, not Frank Wren. He is trying but with the financial restrictions that this team have, it is going to be miracle if we can get an able body here.

For every Mr. Blank/TD, you got bozos like ASG and Liberty Media, when do college football start up again.

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i like reed johnson for bench rh bat alot! hes hitting 356 off lefties and 302 off rightys

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Needs:
Team MVP type bat
Full time 3B (if not Prado)
Full time LF (if not Prado)
Full time CF
Reliable mid-relief for our Starters
“Reliable” bats start being reliable (Heyward, Uggla – coming around)

I can’t see fixing all this by Saturday and/or without giving up our coveted pitching prospects.

At this point I’d say we stand pat unless it’s a move to build for the next couple of years. We’re still in it this year but giving up anything of value, which would be mandatory, for a short-term, “win-it-all” type player no longer makes sense.

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richie – I like Reed Johnson for RF

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mark, they HAVE to make a move…slipping now and need a boost. Big Mac on the DL…Chipper being Chipper, it simply has to happen. Minor would be the one I’d ship.

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motor, line of the day “Buy the Braves and we’ll throw in Stone MTN. and the GM plant.and Strokers too.” CLASSIC

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Spud, making a big splash for this year’s post-season run no longer makes sense – see my post at 3:52 for my thoughts

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JurassicPark – For one Beltran is gone, get a clue. For two, McCann is not out for the season. Get a grip dude.

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Do a deal soon! We’ve got what, 4 top pitching prospects, but what if one or none pan out a year or 2 from now??? We definitely could use a veteran like Pence. Remember a top prospect for the Braves about 7-8 years ago…I think his name was Jose Capellan…how’d he pan out? Anyway, we traded him for Dan freakin’ Kolb! Why not give up one of the top prospects for Pence??? There’s always a chance that who you give up may not be an impact in the future + you have to like the track record on Pence…

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Link or it never happen.

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Minor should not be brought up bring up the fireballer we are so screwed

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What are yall saying im the leader here with and awesome bat!!!

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Remember another top prospect we gave up to acquire a hitter brandon? Odalis Perez for Gary Sheffield and that turned out good. I don’t know why people are content in keeping Mike freaking Minor. The Braves have three, possibly four, pitching prospects ahead of him right now and they just drafted a LHP who will likely be better than Minor.

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What about the emergence of nate mclouth? he looks like the future

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Forgive the mis-spellings and fat thumbeness, WAR DAMN EAGLE, GO BRAVES…

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Beltran would have been a difference maker – a McGriff type. Not every prospect deal will end up like the Tex deal.

@Nate Mclouth…..yeah some emergence. Had that moroon gotten the squeeze bunt down in the game last night Brian McCann might not have injured himself later in the game and things would look a little better today.

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This team has Manager and coaching problems that are being covered up.

The players are acting out their displeasure with what’s going on in the form of injuries.

Something has GOT to change.

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Nothing i guess. I can’t believe we couldn’t give up one pitcher for Beltran either. Lame.

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The giants gave up their best prospect for a 3 month rental of Beltran. I’m glad we didnt overpay that badly for him. We really need to get Quentin or Pence. In a dream scenario we get Bourn AND Pence and that allows Prado to play 3rd full time in the likely event of Chipper never getting healthy.

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this is absolutely ridiculious not to get beltran for a pitcher who is not proven. just stupid. minor has had enough starts in the for them to know he will not be a number 1 or 2 starter in the league. if he is so valuable why is he continously up and down from the minors to the majors. u got to be kidding me beltran an all star who is killing the ball would be your at worst second best bat u dont trade for him because u want to keep a minor league pitcher who has had all opportunity to show something. and on top of that the mets are paying his salary. to let the giants get him who killed us last year without one hitter. the same people who are saying dont take beltran for 2 months are the same ones who says at least we made the playoffs. lol

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Heyward sucks. Does anyone else see this?

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bravestnfan – disappointing, I agree. But, I think making a big splash now no longer makes sense. If it there’s a deal to improve the team for the next couple of seasons AND help this year then do it (Pence for instance).

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Will Nieves.. Oh yea now we are gonna win. Thanks Frank you f***ing Idiot.

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The Braves will NEVER win crap under this front office!!! TOOOOOO CHEAP!!!!!! FYI Mike Minor is a joke!!!!

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Theo, let me rephrase. He hasn’t lived up to 1/4 of the hype. He’s hitting .224 and hits everything into the ground to the right side. Some may get through and he hits the occational home run. No super star by any means.

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Braves need offense, but don’t need another trade like the one to the Rangers a few years back. From what I hear the Astros want about that for Pence. I would love to have him on our team, but I don’t want the Braves to give up the farm for him.Drew Stubbs should cost less, and he kills lefty starters. Phillies have a couple of them.

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All you Heyward haters are lame as hell. Just a year ago you all talked about how he was the next Fred McGriff or whoever. Give the guy some time to rebound. If he is still playing like this 2 years from now then you probably have a case. I predict that he will end up being a very solid player for years to come.

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Well in 3 years when Heyward is hitting .275 with 30 homers and 100+ rbis I want ya’ll to come back on here and tell me how much Heyward sucks. Thank you.

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I dont really like him but whats the story on BJ Upton. I dont know how long he is under contract or how much he is making but he could help…low average though, which is 1 of many things we are trying to upgrade.

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I agree completely Theo. Anyone that plays fantasy baseball knows that players can have down years. Look at Curtis Granderson for goodness sake. He has been a solid player for a while, but had a down year or so. Now all of a sudden this year he is a 5 tool beast. You just never know. I’m sure some of the Detroit fans were wanting him gone after just an ok or mediocre season. I bet you they are regretting that now. Give Heyward time. He’ll be a good one.

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I sure do miss Terrance Moore writing for the AJC.

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Granderson is a fantastic example, Los Bravos. His stats are inflated by yankee stadium, but he’s still raking it none the less.

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Let’s face it folks. To be a contender in any playoffs the Braves need a new bat, a new shortstop, a new left fielder, a new center fielder, two new relief pitchers, and a second new bat. We ain’t gonna get all that right now. Fredi will be pulling his hair out pretty soon, and that won’t be easier than filling all these holes.

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You people who think that we practically need a new team are ridiculous. Every team has flaws. No team can fill every need that they have. What we need is someone else in the middle of the lineup who can drive in runs. We’re getting on base, but no extra base hits and no base runners crossing home plate. We need someone who can drive balls to the gap with regularity.

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Anyone griping about a 22 year old player who is still trying to adjust to the majors after battling several injuries are completely insane. Yes Heyward’s struggles are driving you and I nuts, but unlike you, I am not ready to give up on the guy. Talk to me in 2 years if things haven’t gotten any better.

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It’s all a crap shoot, trade Minor or one of the other pitching prospects for Beltran. All four of those guys are not going to be top starters in the league. Realistically, only one of the four will even pan out. This team is NOT going to the WS with the lineup as is. I’m willing to take the gamble. We just don’t need to be packaging multiple top prospects for a rental player, that was the problem with the Texeira trade. If the Mets were willing to deal Beltran for Minor straight up, that’s a trade I would have pulled the trigger on last week!

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In my opinion, of the 4 pitching prospects we’ve got, I think Teheran and Vizcaino will pan out well. Minor is valued because he’s a lefty and Delgado has only 2 pitches currently, so he’ll need to work on another 1 or 2 to be successful in the bigs. Hopefully they’ll let Gilmartin get a little bit longer time in the minors before bringing him up, sending him down, bringing him up, and so on…

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The Braves can’t win with McLouth in CF. End of story. He’s proven for the last two years that he can’t hit a lick and he cost the team the first game with the Pirates by throwing to third base instead of second – something they teach in little league and OF’s on my softball team even know to do.

Trade Minior for Bourn and a reliever because after O’Flaherty, it’s very dicey in close games.

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If we are going to trade a top pitching prospect like Minor, I’d rather take a chance on Pence than Beltran.

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Pence isn’t going anywhere. He’s just out of the lineup because it’s his day off. The Astros are gonna hold on to him for the rest of the season.

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I think the Will Nieves deal could apart of a bigger deal i don’t think the Braves are done yet i think Wren was bringing in extra prospect to get Hunter Pence .

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ESPN rumors Braves and Phillies eying Hunter Pence .

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