I don’t like trading pitching, but I’d swap Mike Minor for Beltran

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October 2004: Carlos Beltran homers yet again; Jaret Wright surrenders. (AP photo)

The Braves have cause to beware the prospect(s)-for-rental-player trade. They’ve been burned twice this century: Once in December 2003, when they shipped Jason Marquis and Adam Wainwright to St. Louis for a year’s worth of J.D. Drew, and again in July 2007 when they sent the entire farm system — OK, not really — to Texas for 364 days of Mark Teixeira’s services.

And now, another trade deadline close at hand, we here have reason to ponder the merits of another rumored young-for-old swap. The Mets are looking to divest themselves of Carlos Beltran, who will become a free agent at season’s  end. (And if you’re thinking the Braves might have a chance to keep Beltran longer-term, forget it. His agent, as was the case with Drew and Teixeira, is Scott Boras.)

Owing to money problems from Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme, the Mets have money problems. They’re not looking for big names. They’re in need  of cheap young arms. The Braves have ‘em. It has been reported that the Mets dispatched a scout to watch Mike Minor work for Gwinnett against Louisville on Thursday. (Might not have been the best night to catch him: Six innings, 10 hits, six runs, three earned.)

We ask: Two months plus postseason of Beltran against the next five years of Minor — would you do it?

I would.

As a rule, I hate trading young pitchers. (Mention the names of John Smoltz and Jair Jurrjens to a Tigers fan.) I would under no circumstances — if the Rangers offered Josh Hamilton I might rethink, but only then — part with Julio Teheran or Arodys Vizcaino, and I’m on record as saying I wouldn’t swap Brandon Beachy for Carlos Quentin, the White Sox outfielder who can become a free agent after next season.

But Minor-for-Beltran I’d do, for two reasons. First, Beltran plays center field, which means he’d fill an immediate need. (Quentin is a corner outfielder.) Second, I’m not crazy about Minor.

When the Braves drafted him in Round 1 out of Vanderbilt in 2009, the ESPN analyst Keith Law suggested they’d erred. But not every guy you pick in Round 1 has to wind up in your rotation to have value: If Minor can be turned into Beltran and Beltran hits the winning home run in Game 7 of the World Series, this will go down as the greatest Braves’ No. 1 pick since Chipper Jones.

In two-plus years in the organization, Minor has done well. But he’s not in the majors, and those who justified drafting him did so in the belief he was already close to being big-league ready. He has been lapped by Beachy, who wasn’t drafted at all, and will soon be passed by Teheran. And if Beachy vis-a-vis Minor had been a close call, the Braves would have erred on the side of the lefthander, seeing as how their rotation lacks one. But it’s not close.

Minor isn’t another Wainwright, who clearly projected as a No. 1 starter. Minor might top out as a No. 4 man. He’s the kind of good-but-not-great prospect who’s made to go in a deadline deal. He is, to dip into Braves’ history, a Melvin Nieves.

Melvin Nieves was a promising outfielder in a stacked farm system who became the key name in the Fred McGriff trade of July 1993. The Padres wanted Ryan Klesko, who was the prospect of the moment, but the Braves wouldn’t bite. (Nor was John Schuerholz moved to part with Chipper or Javy Lopez or even Mike Kelly or Tony Tarasco. Like I said: Stacked farm system) They held out and got the guy they needed at the price they wanted.

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The parallel isn’t exact — McGriff didn’t become a free agent until after the Braves won the World Series in 1995, and they had enough money back then to keep him — but it’s close enough. The Braves were good but not good enough in July 1993. (With no wild card back then, they had to catch San Francisco. They did.) Good as these Braves are, they might be one bat short of winning the World Series.

If the Braves don’t land Beltran, they might have to face him in October: The Phillies, Giants and Red Sox are all believed to have similar interest.  The Braves saw him in postseason once before. He hit four home runs, three at Turner Field, against them as a rent-an-Astro in 2004. He signed with the Mets for Joe Johnson money that winter.

The Braves helped make Beltran a rich man. If he helps make the Braves a world champ, we’ll call it even.

By Mark Bradley

313 comments Add your comment

kdk3

July 25th, 2011
9:40 am

if they trade for beltran, im done for a while

VolGuy

July 25th, 2011
9:49 am

Have the Braves considered sending Heyward down long enough to get his swing straightened out? He is starting to remind me of Francouer. Over-hyped in year one and too stubborn to make adjustments now that all the pichers know his weaknesses. He seems determined to stand a mile away from the plate. As Orel Hershiser pointed out last night, that makes it easier for a pitcher to pound him inside. There is also something that looks a little choppy about his swing. It’s definitely not as fluid as McCann’s swing.

Bernard

July 25th, 2011
9:56 am

Mustang Salley!!!…ur my kinda girl…that is…lady. but. You can’t GIVE Kawakami away…he really SSSSUCKS!!!…you know what?…naaa…he REALLY SSSucks…we could probably get Charlie Leibrandt though…hee hee hee

tom varacalli

July 25th, 2011
10:44 am

The fact is the Braves need a little more than a good right hand bat. They are in real need of strong middle relief. Both of these shortages must be addressed to get them into a playoff spot. Hopefully this will happen. Giving up young talent is part of the game. Somebody is always coming up behind them.

ryanBrave

July 25th, 2011
11:01 am

NO DICE! Dont need another to lose another Wainwright, Elvis or Felize for a rental. Beltran has said he wants to play right, not center. So then ur going to move Hey to center in which he has not played in a couple of years? Plus if u ship Minor to the Mets u just gave them another lefty that the braves cant hit for at least the next five years. Two years in the system and he is on the brink on being in the show is pretty darn good. Once he can command his fastball a little better and throw that curve for a strike he is gonna be set. Remember the cubs last year when the boy struck out 11 or 12? plus u are about to lose lowe at end of next year and hudson the following, plus u got jj and tommy boras clients and they will be due their share, KEEP HIM. What is really needed is another arm, bc linbrink,sherril and proctor are AWFUL! and u cant throw jv and O’fl

JoeS

July 25th, 2011
11:50 am

Absolutely not! You don’t give up a good lefthanded prospect for a rent-a-hitter who may get a few hits. Beltran would only be here for two months and this team needs more than one hitter to get to the world series. Think Texeira and Drew – in neither case did we get a title from them after destroying our minor league system. The Cards have said a silent thank you to the Braves everytime that Wainwright took to the mound. We are supposed to learn from our mistakes, we cannot allow history to repeat itself.

Ronaldinho

July 25th, 2011
12:06 pm

PLEASE! Especially after last night!!!

71 Dawg

July 25th, 2011
4:16 pm

Would they take Linebrink and Proctor for him?

MustangSalley

July 26th, 2011
11:23 am

How about Kensheen Kawakami for Charlie Liebrandt. NOW THAT’S A HECK OF A TRADE!!! One pile of crap for another. CHARLIE LIEBRANDT AND BOBBY COX RUINED OUR ‘91 WORLD SERIES. IF BOBBY WASNT SO STUBBORN, WE WOULD HAVE WON THAT GAME. But Cox was loyal to a fault and even if a guy had an era of 10.0 (Charlie Liebrandt), Cox will stay with that guy to the bitter end, provided he is still on the roster. Had we had Tommy Lasorda has our manager instead of Cox for all of those years, the Braves would have won at least six world championships instead of only one. COX IS A TERRIBLE MANAGER AND IM GLAD HES GONE FOREVER.

RowlandOffice

July 26th, 2011
1:54 pm

I hope the Braves go out and get “Carlos” the BELT TRAIN. When his train is moving, he is belting prolific home runs out of stadiums across the country. Yes, we need the BELT TRAIN in a Braves uniform. Yes, Carlos Belt-Train(Beltran) would be a welcome addition to the Braves. We would hate to see him belting home runs for someone else, SO WHY NOT ACQUIRE HIM AND HAVE HIM BELT HOME RUNS FOR US (Braves).

LucilleReinhart

July 26th, 2011
3:30 pm

Carlos Beltran will soon be signed to a Braves contract. I remember years ago when the Braves were putting together their 14-year run of division titles. There were 4 occasions where the Braves went out and signed the BEST free agent available; #1:Greg Maddox, #2:Fred McGriff, #3:Gary Sheffield and #4:Mark Texiera. Then there were other occasions when we traded away good players, that turned out to be great players for other teams. J.D. Drew, Damon Berryhill, Edger Renteria, Yunel Escobar, Kevin Millwood, Wilson Bettement, Brett Butler, Brook Jacoby and Adam Weinright.

CarlosBeltran

July 27th, 2011
3:32 pm

Now that Brian McCann is LOST for the season, the Braves MUST acquire Carlos Beltran and sign him to a contract. Without doing so, the Braves will NOT make the playoffs, AND their hopes and dreams of making it to the world series this year and winning it will become just a fantasy.

brein128

July 27th, 2011
4:46 pm

You guys were a little off on the give the Mets Lowe for Beltran or Kensheen Kawakami for Beltran or Minor for Beltran and Matt Harvey. Enjoy facing Beltran in the playoffs.