The Gators’ Will Muschamp: The next Urban or another Zook?
"The next game I win as head coach will be my first." (AP photo)
Hoover, Ala. — Let’s stipulate that Florida is pretty good at hiring football coaches. Two of the past three tapped by the Gators went on to win a national championship. The third was Ron Zook.
The Zooker had never been a head coach. At Florida, he didn’t last three full seasons. (Still beat Georgia twice, though.) We mention this because Florida again has a head coach who has never been a head coach. He’s Will Muschamp, and he’s no Ron Zook. He’s probably not a Steve Spurrier or an Urban Meyer, either.
If you get past the obvious disadvantage of having played under Ray Goff, Muschamp has a solid background. He’s the son of a coach. He played in the SEC. He has worked at Auburn and at LSU. He apprenticed under Nick Saban, who’s the best in the business. He was the coach-in-waiting at Texas, which takes the sport seriously. That said …
He hasn’t coached a game. As Spurrier himself has said: “If you want to know whether a guy can win, look at his record.”
Muschamp’s record: 0-0.
Everyone knew Spurrier would win big at Florida. How? He’d won an ACC title at Duke. Most folks figured Meyer’s spread option would, given time, function in the SEC. Why? He’d gone undefeated at Utah.
Spurrier won his first SEC championship in Year 2 at Florida and would have done it in Year 1 had the Gators been eligible. Meyer won the BCS title in Years 2 and 4. Muschamp’s first Florida team won’t be favored to win its division and might not be picked to run second.
To reiterate: Zook won 20 of his first 33 games … and got fired in 2004 the week Florida played Georgia.
Greeting the assembled SEC media Wednesday, Muschamp appeared antsy — his opening statement lasted more than five minutes, a filibuster by industry standards — but composed. (Zook, by way of comparison, gave the impression of a man in the throes of hyperventilation.) The new Gator sounded the right notes. He made you think, “This guy’s got a chance.”
Then you remembered: He’s 0-0.
Muschamp has assembled an intriguing staff: Charlie Weis, the offensive coordinator, used to be the head coach at Notre Dame; Dan Quinn, the defensive coordinator, had been in the NFL since 2001; Mickey Marotti, the strength and conditioning coach, is a Meyer holdover. (And, according to Muschamp, the strength coach “is the most important guy on the staff.”)
Weis’ offense, Muschamp said, should suit quarterback John Brantley, the underwhelming incumbent, “a little bit better from the skill-standpoint” than did Meyer’s option. On the status of running back Jeff Demps, who’s running track in Italy: “I deal with people eyeball to eyeball, and I ain’t never been to Italy.”
He has, however, been around football his whole life. “When I was playing in the backyard with my brothers,” Muschamp said, “I wanted to beat them as bad as anything.”
Speaking of ties, familial and otherwise, how does a Georgia native and a UGA grad feel about coaching Florida? “I’m a Florida guy,” Muschamp said.
How does a career assistant make the transition to winning head coach? “You don’t try to be something you’re not,” Muschamp said. He won’t call plays for Weis, and he won’t to draw up defenses for Quinn. (Though Muschamp was a pretty fair defensive coordinator himself.) He’ll oversee.
To date, Muschamp’s closest counselor has been his predecessor. “My e-mail is full of suggestions from Gator Nation, but I listen to Urban a little bit more … We’ve talked about [the competition] in the SEC, and he said, ‘You’re kind of like, “Wow, it’s [this way] every week.” ‘ ”
Well, yes. That’s why the SEC has yielded five consecutive BCS titlists. That’s why Florida’s aim isn’t just to contend in the Eastern Division but to win in Atlanta and play for the big crystal football. Meaning: The Muschamp honeymoon ends with Loss No. 1.
In his first meeting with his new players, Muschamp said he told them: “Change is inevitable, but growth is optional.” That’s a pithy phrase, and nobody ever used the word “pithy” in the same sentence as “Ron Zook.” But the Zooker isn’t the gold standard in Gatorland — he’s the lead balloon.
Will Muschamp will be better than Ron Zook. But being better than Ron Zook will make him only the third-best Head Ball Coach the Gators have had since 1990.
By Mark Bradley
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Brandon from Warner Robins
July 20th, 2011
5:38 pm
Unless Tim Tebow has any eligibility left, Muschamp will end up like Ron Zook.
Jacket Fan
July 20th, 2011
5:42 pm
Holy Cow! First?
RedGuy
July 20th, 2011
5:42 pm
I do not think he will be successful at Florida.
I will not say why until after the GA-Fl game because I don’t want him to get a chance to correct it.
Buzz Star
July 20th, 2011
5:44 pm
Zook–one of the worst coaches in fla history, but his record against Georgia: 2-0! Ga’s only loss in 2002: to zook! Congrats to the dogs.
rufus
July 20th, 2011
5:45 pm
Mark
If laying out a cogent position was a crime, you’d have no chance of being convicted.
dawg4u
July 20th, 2011
5:51 pm
I think he will be somewhere in between Urban and Zook. The question is whether or not he can handle the pressure of the job given the expectations of the alumni and fans. I think he can but that he won’t be as successful as Spurrier or Urban who both set the bar pretty high.
MagnaCarterGT
July 20th, 2011
5:51 pm
Have to start somewhere, Mark….
Mark Bradley
July 20th, 2011
5:52 pm
Kudos, Brandon.
Lowcountry Bulldawg
July 20th, 2011
5:55 pm
Muschamp will not be outworked. He is a excellent recruiter as if Florida really needed much help. He hired Weiss to run the Offense. Make jokes all you like but the Kansas City offense was pretty dang strong. Cassell looked like a legitimate QB in the NFL under Weiss and his coaching. Muschamp had the pedigree all he needs now is the seasoning. I hate to admit it, but Foley made another good hire. Florida will only have this one season that is a down year then it will be back off to the races.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
6:01 pm
The Brain trust at Florida is better than 8 other teams in the SEC.
UGAKev
July 20th, 2011
6:02 pm
I give him three years and thats no knock on Florida. I just know Florida fans will not be happy with 9-3 seasons
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
6:04 pm
Weiss vs Grantham? adv UF
Muschamp vs Bobo? adv UF
scdawg
July 20th, 2011
6:05 pm
The day of old are coming back where playing Florida is like playing Vandy, a give me.
South Carolina and the ole ball coach are to be taken serious as the domanate contender along ax the new surprise coming out this year Georgia.
Delbert D.
July 20th, 2011
6:08 pm
An urban zook, which would be a scary creature.
Paddy
July 20th, 2011
6:09 pm
Lowcountry Bulldawg…..Muschamp will just join the long list of college coaches that will not be outworked. When you get that far up the food chain all coaches work at maximum. Not a big deal!
Mark Bradley
July 20th, 2011
6:12 pm
Actually, a rural zook would be pretty terrifying, too.
Mark Bradley
July 20th, 2011
6:14 pm
Dan Mullen of Mississippi State is speaking now. A writer from Baton Rouge just noted that, driving up yesterday, he crossed the state border and saw a billboard with Mullen’s face on it bearing the legend, “Welcome to Our State.”
Said Mullen: “Did you enjoy your time there?”
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:14 pm
“Most folks figured Meyer’s spread option would, given time, function in the SEC. Why? He’d gone undefeated at Utah.”
….seems to my recollection, Mark, when Urban took the Florida job everyone was saying how the spread would never work in the SEC….a gimmick offense, etc. I think you forgot your history. Foley hiring Meyer took everyone by surprise at the time…..everyone thought it would be Stoops or the current Redskins coach. I know, as a huge Gator fan….I was shocked and a little disappointed in the hire at the time. I wanted Stoops. But Meyer came in and did exactly when Muschamp is doing….but I think Muschamp is right now doing it better by hiring better assistant coaches and being an outstanding recruiter and motivator. Not much negative coming out of Gainesville right now.
….so., I think Muschamp will be very successful at Florida and be the coach for a long time. I guess you haven’t been paying much attention to how Muschamp is running the ship down in Gainesville….very buttoned up and very professional He is demanding a lot out of his players….and his coaches….and so far….they are providing it to him (other than Janoris Jenkins and Chris Martin….who were politely asked to leave the ship because they like party with illegal resources too much).
If Weis can work a miracle with Brantley (and that might be too much to ask, frankily), then the Gators will easily win the East. If not, the Gators might stuggle a bit this year….and Gator fans will understand it……but I think he and his group will surprise big time this year….and they will be a force for several years to come with the talent there and the talent that is coming to Gainesville. Muschamp can coach, he can motivate, he organizes well, he hires well…..and he expects a lot from his players and himself. No worries here….from this Gator fan.
Great hire as far as I am concerned.
RedandBlackDAWG
July 20th, 2011
6:15 pm
Mushchamp goes as far as Weis carries him. He is pretty thin in the offensive coaching dept. but a bear on defense. Weis is a good coordinator but a coach with communication problems. If Weis can put together a decent offense, Florida will do OK. Florida like UGA has a lot of unanswered questions and motivation and coaching are going to be extremely important for both teams.
alaska Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:16 pm
Interesting article Mark. Muschamp appears to have the it factor. He looks much more like an SEC guy than Zook ever did. I am a lifetime Dawg fan so I think this is the year for UGA to take the Gator, but I have made that statement at least a dozen times over the last 20 years. Still stinging from the 2002 loss to Zook that you so astutely brought up. Keep pounding the keys Mark. I don’t always agree with you, but I always read your stuff first and have a great deal of respect for your journalism. By the way, it was 68 and sunny today in Anchorage!!
Mark Bradley
July 20th, 2011
6:18 pm
Thanks, alaska Dawg.
Scott B from Montgomery
July 20th, 2011
6:19 pm
The Gators, as usual, are loaded with talent. It will probably take a year or two for this new staff to make it’s mark in the SEC. A sure beatdown is coming, for sure, from his longtime mentor Nick Saban. October 1st, Bama @ Florida. Prediction: Tide 27–Florida 3. Roll Tide!
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:20 pm
I was dreaming at the time when I typed that “easily win the East” comment.. SC is too strong this year in the East. And Florida and Georgia just have too many question marks.
1970 Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:21 pm
@Just Me,, I just wanted to point that you compared UF’s OC to our DC and UF’s HC to our OC. I.m not sure what that indicates. I think it would be better to compare our HC to theirs. Our guy has a .723 winning % and theirs has NO EXPERIENCE— Adv UGA
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
6:23 pm
“The day of old are coming back where playing Florida is like playing Vandy, a give me.”
scdawg,
Keep dreaming. Those days are history and will not return in our lifetime.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:24 pm
Scott B from Montgomery…….
Bama plays the Gators in THE SWAMP……and seldom if ever does anyone “beat down” the hungry Gators down there. Better watch out for a snip in the pants as you walk through it.
My prediction: Florida 35, Alabama 21.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
6:24 pm
1970 dawg
Muschamp will be in charge of the D and therefore will match wits with Bozo. Weiss will match with with Grantham. Richt doesn’t do the play calling remember. Richt has become a Figurehead and CEO. He doesn’t or has not done the real work in a few years now. Does that explain it better for you. Bozo will be the down fall of Richt.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:27 pm
1970 Dawg……
We are tallking winning championships dude….not 73% winning percentages. If winning 7 or 8 games a year satifies you…..welcome to it. SEC titles and NC titles are what we expect from Gator coaches….and they have been giving it to us on a regular basis. How about Richt?
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
6:28 pm
Mark,
I think Muschamp will not be like Spurrier, Zook or Urban. He has his own way of doing things and seems to be very focused on the task at hand. Year one could be a tough one but I expect we will be back in Atlanta in 2012. This Gator is excited about the future because of this hire. I trust Jeremy Foley totally and he said when he interviewed Muschamp the firt time he knew he was the right man for the job. Foley has forgetten more about hiring championship coaches than we will ever know. Don’t believe me? Take a look at UF’s trophy cases from the last 15-20 years.
1953Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:29 pm
to tampagator, Florida lost the best coach they have ever had in Meyer. This clown is nothing more than a TrooperTaylor at Auburn. He is a big cheerleader,a good recruiter, but a terrible D.C. If i remember Richt&BOOBOO lite his defenses up like a Xmas tree when he was at LSU&Auburn. Saban’s last year at LSU, UGA put up over 40, and his last 2 years at Auburn BOOBOO put up over 35 on his defenses. For you to say he can coach is funny, he can coach what? Wasn’t that successful as a D.C., and he hasn’t coached a game as a head coach. Florida will win the East easily if Brantley rebounds, yea right. S.C is more talented, and UGA while being terrible last year just like florida, is just as talented. I pointed that out earlier with your pathetic postion evaluation of florida vs UGA. Bottomline is this guy is nothing but a big talker, he is blowing a lot of smoke up gator fans asses, and he hasn’t done anything. The last thing for you to say he ran off Jenkins, and Martin is a joke. He wasn’t going to run off Jenkins after his second arrest, he only ran him off after he got so much heat from gator fans, but it was only after his third arrest, and his second while he was coach. Keep dreaming about your unproven cheerleader of a head coach. Trooper Taylor was lucky enough to have boosters pay for a championship, don’t think your cheerleader will have the same luck
1970 Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:31 pm
@Just Me, Show some respect, man. BTW, Weiss didn’t do so well at Notre Dame did he? And Muschamp as HC in waiting didn’t fare so well last year either. How many games did Texas win last year. Their defense was miserable.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:32 pm
Just me……
I am truly looking forward to the Graham vs. Weis matchup….heavy weight (no pun intended) vs. light weight. Super Bowl winning coach vs. “choke hold” classy man….Wow!
But Muschamp will not be matching up vs. Bobo. That honor will go to the DC-Quinn. And I certainly like that skill set match up as well. NFL playoff winning experience vs. Bobo. Wow!
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
6:33 pm
By the way, Zook was Foley’s only bad hire. It was done in a bit of a panic as I don’t think he expected Stoops to turn him down after SOS left. Haven’t seen Foley make the same mistake twice. Foley is the best AD in the country and if you can’t trust his decision making abilities, then who can you trust?
1970 Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:35 pm
@Tampa Gator, If you do the math CMR has averaged 9.6 wins a year over his 10 myr career. Your Gators have enjoyed just slightly better record under CUM. Meyer lost my respect when he re-instated your RB last year just in time for our game. That kid should have not have been allowed back. A non-athlete would have done time for such a threat.
Red Stick (formerly Jumbeauxtiger)
July 20th, 2011
6:35 pm
Tampa Gator,
The Gators could be the best team in the East but may not win the division because of their very tough SEC schedule, including playing Auburn, Alabama and LSU from the West. This puts them at a huge disadvantage compared to UGA and SC.
Geaux Tigers
Go SEC
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
6:36 pm
1970 Dawg,
Texas was #6 in the country in total defense last year. Try another lie, but check your facts before you post it.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category10/sort01.html
Red Stick (formerly Jumbeauxtiger)
July 20th, 2011
6:36 pm
Enter your comments here
1953Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:37 pm
to tampagator, this guy is nothing more than a Trooper Taylor clone. A big cheerleader that is a good recruiter, but he was a terrible D.C. while he was at LSU&Auburn. If i remember Richt&BooBoo put up over 40 on Saban’s last year at LSU, and BooBoo put up over 35 on his defenses his last 2 years in Auburn. So if it comes down to this clown against BooBoo, that is probably the only matchup BooBoo will have where is is the favorite. To say this guy can coach, what are you talking about. This guy wasn’t that good of a coordinator, and he has never coached a game in the SEC. The only difference between this clown and trooper taylor is the fact that taylor had alumni buy him and his team a title, don’t think that will happen for your boy. This guy will never win an SEC title as long as Saban and Myles are at Bama&LSU. Hell he might beat UGA his first year, but that isn’t saying a lot now, everybody beats Richt. But he will be in big trouble as soon as Richt is gone and UGA hire a competent head coach. Then this guy want even win the east, that is if he can beat Spurrier, which i doubt he can
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:38 pm
Red Stick…..
Yep….I think you are right on that one. One of Florida’s loses will be to the Tigers this year, I believe…unless your coach loses his mind at the end of the game.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:40 pm
1953 Dawg…..trooper Taylor?
Sorry dude…..Muschamp is univerallly recognized by about every major head coach in the country and a brilliant defensive mind. I am not sure what you are drinking while you are watching those classic TV channels.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:43 pm
….and Texas had that one horrible game against UCLA last year….but other than that….they played very well on defense. The problem with Texas last year….was on offense, not defense. They had no running back or QB….which makes it difficult on the defense.
1970 Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:45 pm
Beast, how many games did they win under their HC in waiting last year? I didn’t post anything about Yards per game. Read my post before you accuse someone of lying, dude. Muschamp is not the DC anymore. He is HC now with NO EXPERIENCE.
Red Stick (formerly Jumbeauxtiger)
July 20th, 2011
6:45 pm
Tampa Gator,
Miles catches alot of slack for the meltdown at the end of the Ole Miss game in 2009 and he should. Yet Crowton was in the press box and easily could have called time-out as well when they allowed 17 seconds to elapse off the clock. In fact none of the coaches apparently bothered to notice the time slipping away. You would think one of them would have said something to Miles. That said, I’m not making excuses for the Mad Hatter.
We haven’t beaten the Gators yet. That’s why they play them.
I do think that Florida will be underdogs to Alabama and LSU and perhaps to Auburn since it’s a road game. I think it will be tough to win two of those. Thus if you have 2 losses you would pretty much have to beat the rest of the East as I don’t think you can count on winning the division with 3 losses. That doesn’t occur very often.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:45 pm
1970 Dawg…..
You were the one that stated the 73% winning percentage not me….but I think you missed the point anyway.
Stinger2
July 20th, 2011
6:45 pm
Mark: When did you decide Saban is the best coach is the business? I could not believe you said this. If its just your opinion, you obviously have a right to say so. This is a real surprise that you picked Saban as the best. CMR along with Spurrier, CPJ, Les Miles,etc. are also good.
Hard to say who is “best” if there actually is one.
Red Stick (formerly Jumbeauxtiger)
July 20th, 2011
6:46 pm
flack that is
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:48 pm
Red Stick….
I have only faint hopes for the Gators winning the East this year…..mainly because Brantley is the Gator QB. I just hope he just shocks me this year and grows some down under. He has been a girly boy on the field so far…and you can’t win in the SEC East with a girly boy QB.
Herschel Talker
July 20th, 2011
6:49 pm
MB:
To hell with this traitor! I hope he crashes and burns!
HT
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
6:50 pm
Well….time to go out for dinner. It sure is nice to be talking college football again. My fever is rising. Go Gators. Go SEC. Go college football. Now…time to go eat.
1970 Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:55 pm
Tampa Gator, I didn’t miss the point. You said UGA wins 7 or 8 times a year. I simply corrected you.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
6:56 pm
“Their defense was miserable.”
1970Dawg,
That is a lie. How can anyone with a brain call the #6 overall defnse “miserable”? He was not the HC.
Worm
July 20th, 2011
6:57 pm
Ask old Will about the time his roommate started masturbating in a restaraunt, was punched out by an off duty cop and ran home down the railroad tracks before the cops came?
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
6:58 pm
1970
Richt was 8-4 in his first year in his 1st ever head coaching job.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
6:59 pm
Worm,
WTF? LOL! If that’s true, then they should sell that story to National Lampoon!!!
1953Dawg
July 20th, 2011
6:59 pm
Tampa, yes alot like Troope Taylor. All mouth and no substance. Nationally respected by all coaches? What the hell are you drinking bluejean shorts. I gave you facts about his clown’s efforts while he was D.C. at LSU&Auburn. Richt put up over 40 on him when he came to athens with Saban his last year at LSU. ANd BooBoo put up over 35 his last two years while he was D.C. at Auburn. So think what you want, facts are facts, and if this big cheerleader has anything to do with Florida’s defense, BooBoo will once look very intelligent. Guy will still never beat Saban or Myles as long as they are at Bama&LSU. That will be a bigger mismatch than when BooBoo is calling plays against your boy.
OoltewahDawg
July 20th, 2011
7:01 pm
Buzz Star “Zook–one of the worst coaches in fla history, but his record against Georgia: 2-0! Ga’s only loss in 2002: to zook! Congrats to the dogs.” I can’t believe you bring up our one loss, which, I believe was by a mere 7 points, if that much, when UGA shellacked your Gnats by a score of 51-7 just a few weeks later. Typical Tech fan. You have to rely on other teams to do what your team can’t.
intellibird
July 20th, 2011
7:01 pm
Even “Urban Myers” was on a downtrend (thanks to the departure of Tebow). Florida was already falling back in the pack. Thats why the quitter left, probably. Its hard to build a team around people like Rainey and the like.
There is no reason to believe that he will be anything more than just better than average, which isn’t saying much with Vandy, KY, and various small colleges on the schedule. Look for an 8-3 record every year, sometimes more and sometimes less.
Urban wasn’t a genious after all, he just split while the gettin’ was good.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
7:03 pm
1953Dawg,
You obviously are one of the Dawgs that deem Muschamp a traitor.
Like the old saying, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned….LOL!!!!
Worm
July 20th, 2011
7:04 pm
Beast from the East-true story–Doubt old Will remembers?
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
7:05 pm
Worm,
Who could ever forget that?
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
7:06 pm
Worm
I think anybody would try to forget that happening. LOL
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
7:07 pm
1953
What did you say or call Vince when he left UGA for Auburn? I bet you said all kind of nice about Vince for being a quitter and getting while the getting was good right?
kerryb
July 20th, 2011
7:11 pm
Without a doubt the next Ron Zook.
1953Dawg
July 20th, 2011
7:12 pm
Beast, wrong again clown. He was a terrible player at UGA. ANd like i said before which obviously Florida fans have no comprehension of facts about this guys ta.ent as a D.C. while he was in the SEC. I was sorry to see him leave Auburn and the SEC, he was the only D.C. BooBoo could out coach. So i’m glad to see him in Florida, and i’m glad Meyer is gone. This guy was a loser as a D.C, and i think he will be the same as a head coach. I’m glad i’m not having to watch this guy coach my team, but i’m very happy to see him coach against my team again. Dream on least of the east.
Abnerish
July 20th, 2011
7:15 pm
I’m hoping more for Galen Hall, personally.
Worm
July 20th, 2011
7:15 pm
Let me clarify, they both ran home to will’s house.
kerryb
July 20th, 2011
7:15 pm
Could be the next Charley Pell.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
7:16 pm
It wasn’t too long ago that all the same Dawg fans calling Muschamp “ZOOK” were screaming for Smart or Muschamp to come home to replace Willie M.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
7:18 pm
Just Me,
You can’t reason with an unreasonable person. They also love to say he has no HC’ing experience and because of that he is a bad hire. They seem to forget that UGA did the same thing about 11 years ago when they hired their “savior”.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
7:19 pm
I remember all you dawgs fans now calling Will “Zook” were the same ones crying for Muschamp or Smart to come home to replace Willie M.
1953Dawg
July 20th, 2011
7:19 pm
Beast, wrong again clown. I was sorry to see him leave the SEC and Auburn, because he was the only D.C. in the SEC that BooBoo could actually outcoach. That says all you need to know about how good this guy was as a D.C. This guy will be totally outclassed when he goes up against Saban, Myles, and he is getting outrecruited by Jimbo at Fl.State. Thats who you should be worried about, because saban, myles, spurrier, and fisher will own this clown. Richt, thats another story. Hell he doens’t own anyone anymore. So glad you have this overrated asst as your head coach.
jay
July 20th, 2011
7:25 pm
I don’t know. Which one was a traitor to his alma mater Zook or Urban?
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
7:33 pm
1953
you seem a little hostile.
It is looking like you have an overrated ACC assistant as your head coach. Richt is getting a lil hot on that seat.
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
7:36 pm
I have 2 thoughts on this article 1) Urban’s spread didn’t work. Well it worked somewhat, because he had all-world talent and the perfect QB for it, but UF’s offense would have been much more successful in the I formation. UF won because of defense and despite its offense. Urban knew this. That’s why he got out. 2) Muschamp will be another Dabo Swinney. My overriding memory of Muschamp is him getting beat twice in Tuscaloosa, because he bit on the play action fake when he was playing DEEP and had deep safety responsibility. Cost UGA the game. I don’t think he’s that bright. He will do OK, because he will have talent and a pretty good coaching staff, but I’m happy he’s at UF.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
7:36 pm
Jay that would be Richt as the traitor to his alma mater. A Miami guy goes to FSU?
All you dawgs were begging Smart or Muschamp to come home a year ago and replace Willie. Now Muschamp is the next Zook?
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
7:39 pm
Back from quick Thai…….
1953 Dawg sure likes the word, “Clown.” Dude….call Mr. Saban….will support my comments on Muschamps coaching skills. Muschamp is very, very smart….thanks in part to the excellent education he received at Georgia. Now…..it is time to part some of that education on your team…starting this year.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
7:41 pm
Enter your comments here
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
7:42 pm
I know Muschamp didn’t learn much from his time under Ray Goof. Except, maybe, how to be a dumb, classless goober. LOL
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
7:44 pm
Lake Dawg…..
Your post is completely hilarious to me…..take those blinders off, dude. Leak was not a perfect QB for the spread….and they won a NC with him at QB. He picked OSU apart in that system. Brantley was just horrible last year. And Meyer didn’t leave Florida for your reason (he had another Tebow like player coming in…..Driskell)……it had nothing to do with football…..it was a personal family matter.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
7:45 pm
……and despite the offense….
dude…..under Tebow……Florida average over 40 points a game. Despite the offense……post intelligently……or go watch TV.
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
7:48 pm
“it had nothing to do with football…..it was a personal family matter.”
Riiiiiight. LMAO
SatchelBuzz
July 20th, 2011
7:50 pm
Mark,…really?,..what a thinly veiled effort to play to the ugaggers. You know,..and they know the domination will continue. Much closer to Urban,….not Zook. Shame on you for suggesting otherwise.
And because it needs to be said,……THWG!!
Common Sense
July 20th, 2011
7:51 pm
I know one thing that is an absolute fact. His October will not be an easy one. No team in College Football faces a month that tough.
Jax Dawg
July 20th, 2011
7:52 pm
Initially Spurrier was a million miles ahead of the SEC offensively at Florida. That was his collegiate coaching peak. It took 6 years for Fulmer to catch and pass him. Spurrier only won 1 SEC Championship in his final 5 years at Florida. He is winning at South carolina because the SEC East is way, way down. He deserves credit as one of the best in the SEC history.
Urban Meyer was a great recruiter. Who would not have won huge with Tim Tebow? Meyer lost 9 games in his 2 years with Tebow. Tebow is to Meyer what Hershell Walker was to Vince Dooley. We will never know how good he is without Tebow—except that he averages losing 4.5 games per year.
Can Florida climb back to the top of the SEC West with Muschamp? Maybe — it depends on Georgia, South Carolina and Tennessee. Can Florida climb back to win the SEC? Doubtful — as long as Saban, Miles and Petrino are still coaching.
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
7:54 pm
Tampa Gator’
Tebow, et al posted big numbers against the poor teams. Urban made a point of leaving Tebow and company in blow out games to run up big numbers. They struggled against good defenses. Of course they were still good, but after Tebow they were going to really struggle in that offense. And a lot of the success of the Tebow years was that defense giving the Offense the ball back time after time. I would say its you that needs to take the blinders off and learn some football or maybe watch T.V. ; D
RomeDawg
July 20th, 2011
7:54 pm
A Florida guy?!?!?!? Let’s see, went to high school in Rome, GEORGIA…played football at the University of GEORGIA but he’s a FLORIDA guy?
Sounds like a traitor. In my opinion he’s a FLORDIA guy now, jerk!
Great assistants aren’t always good head coaches. (Weis and Chow are 2 examples of that)
SatchelBuzz
July 20th, 2011
7:55 pm
RE: Chester Brown,….OL recruit from Bradwell Institute. Ugag just beat out Georgia State and South Alabama to get this guy,……Dream Team,…..I think not.
THWG!!!
ga gator
July 20th, 2011
7:55 pm
Good point common sense. We know a great deal about Mark Richt as a coach and a man; he is great at one and not so good the last two years. Was it an aberation or what he has become? This year will tell. Muschamp we know nothing about him really as either because he has never been a HC and as a man he has not been under a microscope so we do not know.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
7:58 pm
Jax Dawg…..
Florida and Muschamp winning the SEC East and the SEC has nothing to do with Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee. Those 3 programs are currently not in the same class with the Florida program….even with a down year. Florida has everything to do with winning championships…..and Muschamp is off to a great start with recruiting and coaching up the top talent in the country……and that has everything to do with winning the SEC….and national championships….something Dawg fans have known nothing about since 1980……which is 32 year gone by, my friend. This is today….not yesterday’s dreams.
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
8:00 pm
You heard it hear first. UGA is going to spank some Gator tail in Jax this year!
jay
July 20th, 2011
8:01 pm
First, I’ve never heard Richt downgrade his relationship with Miami.
It is Muschump who disses his alma mater. If he was “a florida guy”
he should have stayed down there and walked on. He owes his coaching
career to UGA and he claims to have been a closet UF guy. I thought
he was a fantastic player and will probably be a fantastic coach,
but he’ll always be a traitor to me.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
8:06 pm
Lake Dawg…..
Yeah…..the offense really struggled in those national title games against Ohio State and Oklahoma. I guess Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, LSU, etc. really had horrible defenses…..just like all the other teams in the SEC. Florida…..scored a lot of points on most of the teams they played under Meyer and Tebow. And they did have a great defense…….and lost the Bama game because the offense did stumble somehat against an outstanding Bama defense a couple of years ago….but not having Dunlap and a healthy Spikes and Cunningham really hurt the team as well in that game.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
8:08 pm
Lake Dawg…..
Didn’t you post the same thing last year….about this time? And you still lost in a down Florida year. This Florida team will be a lot better than last year’s team. So hold on to your dreams…..dreams are real in the summer.
Ringleader
July 20th, 2011
8:11 pm
RomeDawg He was born and raised in Gainesville, FL until his dad took the headmaster job in Rome. He was recruited as a walk on by FL just like GA.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
8:12 pm
RomeDawg
Sounds like a traitor. In my opinion he’s a FLORDIA guy now, jerk!
Sounds like Richt is a traitor too then right? Miami guy and goes to FSU to coach, JERK!
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
8:13 pm
Rome Dawg…..
Muschamp spent his early years going to middle school in Gainesville, Florida, and going to Gator games in the SWAMP. He loved the Gators as a kid….and while he lived in Rome. He always wanted to play for the Gators…..but was not good enough. He lived in Georgia and walked on there instead of Florida because he could not afford the out of state tuition at Florida….he could have walked on at Florida….but could not afford to do so. If he had been good enough to earn a scholly in HS….he would have been a Gator and not a Dawg.
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
8:16 pm
Tampa Gator
Yeah, against Oklahoma they scored 24 whole points against a Big 12 defense with numerous opportunities given them by a smothering D. What was their longest drive against OSU? I don’t remember all of the details about the game. I just remember the D turning the ball over in OSU territory about every five plays. Look, I never said they weren’t good offensively. Just that without Tebow they would be much more effective in the I formation. That offense is a gimmick offense. Unless you have a Tebow or a Cam Newton its not going to be that effective against good SEC defenses. Its a good offense to try to level the playing field if you have less talent than the big boys. UF should never have been in that offense. Urban even said he was going to adjust after Tebow left, but he didn’t, because that’s the only offense he knows. He saw the hand writing on the wall and left.
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
8:19 pm
If Muschamp says he’s a Gator, then he’s a Gator. I have no reason to believe he’s making it up. And I’m glad he’s a Gator, because I would hate to think a Dawg would ever coach at UF.
ga gator
July 20th, 2011
8:22 pm
Tampa Gator you need some minor correction: Muschamp was not born in Gainesville but spent years 5-15 there. He was a very good football player until he broke his leg during the early part of his senior year and was not recruited by anyone. He wanted to walk on at Florida but when he came down to visit, Spurrier was a no-show (on the golf course), Muschamp then tried UGA where he was offered and the rest is history. He does not come from a poor family and could have afforded tuition at UF which is cheap by the way.
Poopdawg
July 20th, 2011
8:23 pm
So Tampagator , you think Muschamp will be pulling for UF over UGA? Just how sure are you? Muschamp will do fine .
ga gator
July 20th, 2011
8:26 pm
LakeDawg, Tebow only had a minor role his freshman season, threw 22 passes and ran 89 times scoring 8 TD’s. You are correct about Urban not changing offenses after Tebow left. What really hurt was Dan Mullen leaving and turning the offense over to Addazio who did not have a clue. If not for Tebow they would have lost 3 or 4 games during the regular season before the loss to Bama.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
8:27 pm
Common Sense,
Here’s Muschamp take on the October games. Gotta love his attitude, even though we could lose all 4. Won’t know till they’re played.
During a segment filming the TV show “Talkin’ Football” with Tony Barnhart, Mark Schlabach and Bob Neal, he was asked about the brutal schedule that awaits him.
“Those teams are looking at the schedule saying, ‘Oh no, we’ve got to play the Gators,’ ” he said. “I know I used to.”
McDawg
July 20th, 2011
8:32 pm
sounds like this guy was a closet Gator all his life-no mercey
Rex
July 20th, 2011
8:33 pm
If the NFL (Spurrier) or Health Issues (Meyer) dont take him off the sidelines of The Swamp, then I think Muschamp may win more games as Gator HC than Meyer or Spurrier did. He just may coach in Gainsville longer than either one of them did…….and probably whip the Dawgs just as often too
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
8:35 pm
1953 dawg,
You just sound like a bitter old man. Call me a clown or whatever makes your miserable old self feel better. I’ll let the results speak for themselves on whether Muschamp will be a good HC or not. It’s all opinions at this point, including your convuluted one.
Ace of Hearts
July 20th, 2011
8:38 pm
Muschamp played his high school ball here in Rome Georgia at Darlington High School. This weekend we will welcome Chipper for a rehab stint. I hope Chippers rehab goes better than the last big time brave to come to Rome. I watched Tom Glavine pitch his last game. I think Muschamp will be a good coach, he is well prepared.
Worm
July 20th, 2011
8:39 pm
Tampa gator, will broke his leg sliding into homeplate during a spring baseball game..
ga gator
July 20th, 2011
8:45 pm
Worm that is correct. 1953dawg why do you hate the guy so? Time will tell if he is another Zooker; personally I think he will be a cross between Urban and Spurrier; over prepared like Meyer and animated like the Spur Dog.
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
8:51 pm
LakeDawg,
FYI, UF averaged 35.8 points per game against ranked teams in 2008 (6th). 33.0 (7th) in 2007 and 25.7 in 2009 (17th). I wouldn’t call that too shabby. That is not a “gimmicky” offense that runs up stats against poor competetion, in my opinion. Give credit where it’s due.
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
8:56 pm
What was UF’s avg. post Tebow?
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
8:57 pm
Pretty good piece on the SEC since it went to divisional play.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/07/sec_divisions_turn_20_with_rem.html
Beast from the East
July 20th, 2011
9:02 pm
LakeDawg,
29.8 (43rd) against all opponents. 12.6 (86th) against raned teams.
For comparison, UGA averaged 15.8 (70th) against ranked teams. Both pretty pathetic, huh?
Try this site someone posted earlier today. Pretty cool info at your fingertips.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/leader/national/team/offense/split13/category09/sort01.html
Will Muschamp refutes rumors that Jeff Demps won’t play football – Orlando Sentinel | Global Sports Insiders
July 20th, 2011
9:17 pm
[...] team. Demps missed all of spring football practice to focus on trying to win another NCAA …The Gators' Will Muschamp: The next Urban or another Zook?Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog)Low expectations, low profile for Gators at SEC Media [...]
ga gator
July 20th, 2011
9:21 pm
LakeDawg enough to put up 33 in Jax.
JB
July 20th, 2011
9:30 pm
I think the Weiss hire was purely genius. Say what you will, laugh at his weight, the guy can run an offense. Now Will himself has a lot to prove. We know he can jump up and down and scream, but deny ALL you will, his defenses at ,LSU and Texas did get beat up from time to time. They will tear down a door coming out of a locker room, but after the whistle and kick off, a lot of that fades to just football and coaching. I will say if he was in Athens right now, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings. Go Dawgs.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
9:33 pm
JB good call. It seems you are one of the few dawgs on here that says y’ll did want Muschamp or Smart back at UGA when Willie was sent packing.
Will Muschamp refutes rumors that Jeff Demps won’t play football – Orlando Sentinel | News Feed Today
July 20th, 2011
9:33 pm
[...] team. Demps missed all of spring football practice to focus on trying to win another NCAA …The Gators' Will Muschamp: The next Urban or another Zook?Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog)Low expectations, low profile for Gators at SEC Media [...]
?????
July 20th, 2011
9:34 pm
what has weiss ever done in collage?
JB
July 20th, 2011
9:36 pm
I’m sure he learned how to spell it…LOL
chomp
July 20th, 2011
9:48 pm
this is ron zook all over again, no head choaching experience first off and when he was at texas there defense was not all that good ,as far as charlie weiss wast he offensive coordinator at notre dame and look what happend there florida will not be the beast of the east anymore in 3 years florida will be looking for another head coach
JB
July 20th, 2011
9:51 pm
Darn chomp, you’ll get run out of town with that talk. If he loses to Georgia, and most Gators for some reason are mentally setting themselves for that, He’ll really have to produce in 2012. I think everyone down there is giving him a pass for this year….for some reason?
flagboy?
July 20th, 2011
9:52 pm
. . . saw this and had to post it.
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/7/20/2285443/cam-newton-ncaa-investigation-auburn-football-danny-sheridan
First paragraph. . .
“During a radio interview with Paul Finebaum at SEC Media Day on Wednesday, Danny Sheridan of the USA Today said that his sources at the NCAA believe they have found a third-party “bag man” who helped Auburn University obtain the services of quarterback and 2010 Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton.”
Fan of the Game
July 20th, 2011
9:53 pm
I heard Brantley today say that Coach Muschamp has brought in discipline. That kids weren’t getting away with things that they got away with Meyer. Now is this a QB that had a grudge against Meyer or does he have a point. I heard Meyer quit because he was tired of dealing with all the problems. If Muschamp has done this he could have a problem recruiting. Florida has won with kids that don’t want and never have had discipline.
JB
July 20th, 2011
9:58 pm
Foley took a gamble on this guy…………..As Georgia did with Richt. They all have to start somewhere. Saban started as an assit. He’ll have the talent to be good. He’ll need coaching to be great.
Fan of the Game
July 20th, 2011
10:00 pm
Muschamp will do a good job, if they will let him lay his foundation. He has been around too many good programs not to know what it takes.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
10:05 pm
Ga Gator……
I think I said he went to middle school in Gainesville….P.K. Young in fact is where he went…..combo elementary and middle at that time. Also, I personally witness Muschamp give a speech where he clearly stated that paying out of state tuition was a major consideration in his decsion to go to Georgia and play……plus the Georgia coaches told him he had a better chance of playing there…which he did….and he turned out to be an good player. But he would not have been a starter for the Gators….as they had safeties that went on to be drafted and have careers in the NFL. Also, he was a walk on and I doubt Spurrier would consider his golf schedule to accommodate talking to a walk on prospect.
JB
July 20th, 2011
10:07 pm
I remember Bill Lewis who was DC for Dooley for a short time and did a great job. Dawgs lead the country in most defensive areas. He lasted one year at Tech as Head man…………Of course Bill didn’t have the talent Muschamp will have in Florida.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
10:17 pm
Fan of the game….
Let me start laughing at your post now.
Yep…..Tebow never liked discipline. None of the Gators did…..and I guess that is why so many of them lately have ended up playing in the NFL….and playing well…..because NFL coaches never demand discipline either.
Also…..you added the Meyer comment to Brantley’s words……the discipline Brantley is talking about is expected higher grades from classes and staying on course for your degree….no excuses….., and on time without excuses to off season workouts, not going downtown to party on Saturday nights and staying out late and getting in trouble……period….he expects players to be back at the dorm and in bed at a certain time…even on weekends..and following a set guideline of rules to play for the Gators…..and he is serious about his expectations because Florida has had too many inappropriate behaviors in the recent past. Meyer had his strong guidelines and expectations…..but they were not as strict as Muschamps. And, as Will stated today, the rules are set. What is not set is the players choice to or not to follow them. If not, see ya later (Jenkins, Blakely, McFarland, and Martin…all good players that are gone because they did not want to buy in to what Muschamp is doing). If you do, let’s go win some championships. By the way, John Brantley had a great relationship with Urban Meyer……but he did not play well in Urban’s system.
Also….yep…..Muschamp’s system is really turning off those recruits….checked out the current commits to the Gators……and it will continue to grow with a lot more top talent…..because most good kids really like discipline and honesty….both of which Muschamp provides.
Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
10:19 pm
JB….are yo comparing Muschamp to Lewis….if so….are you serious?
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
10:20 pm
JB and Bill Lewis never coached again after Tech right?
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July 20th, 2011
10:21 pm
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Tampa Gator
July 20th, 2011
10:24 pm
??????
Put together a great offense at Notre Dame with limited talent. He most likely will do the same at Florida….except he is going to have exceptional talent there. By the way, he also has some significant accomplishments in the NFL too…..something that will attract HS kids to Florida in the future. And…if you think Weis is not serious about being at Florida for a long time….drive down just south of my brother’s ranch (south of Micanopy into Ocala) and take a look at Charlie’s new home…and ranch. He is going to be there a while…..probably until he retires……forcing Muschamp in about 7 years or so to go out and hire another multi national championship OC to coach at Florida…..and it won’t be Mike Bobo.
Chuck
July 20th, 2011
10:25 pm
19/22
Wow do you guys suck
RamboDog
July 20th, 2011
11:20 pm
@Just Me
Weiss vs Grantham? adv UF
Muschamp vs Bobo? adv UF
Seriously, you don’t even know which coaches are OC and DC…. get your ignorant self off this Blog. You can;t be taken seriously because you are a stupid hick…
NoGaGator
July 20th, 2011
11:27 pm
Foley really went outside the box to bring in someone with no head coaching experience. At the time of the hire, Foley said he was looking for the right fit – not just as a football coach but to the University and community.
Foley has proven himself to be one of the very best AD’s in the country. He’s hired all of the current UFcoaches and UF has won 21 out of the 24 SEC All Sports Trophies.
Since Muschamp has become head coach, he has
1. hired a top-flight staff
2. added discipline and cleared out some of the entitiled “me” types and
3. is putting together a top-flight recruiting class – currently having 15 with more to come this weekend.
He has done about all you can ask at this point.
UF’s schedule is very tough this year and one would expect it to take some time for the new staff and systems to jell. UF will be better than last year and will be in the hunt for it all in 2012.
Just Me
July 20th, 2011
11:33 pm
RamboDog
1970 dawg
Muschamp will be in charge of the D and therefore will match wits with Bozo. Weiss will match with with Grantham. Richt doesn’t do the play calling remember. Richt has become a Figurehead and CEO. He doesn’t or has not done the real work in a few years now. Does that explain it better for you. Bozo will be the down fall of Richt.
Paul in RDU
July 20th, 2011
11:35 pm
I love some of the selective use of facts out of context to prove peoples prejudices. 1953Dawg claims that Muschamp was a bad DC because UGA put over 40 on LSU in Sanford. What about the other 2 games when Richt coached UGA against LSU? UGA lost both games and only scored 1 TD in each.
Paul in RDU
July 20th, 2011
11:46 pm
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
7:36 pm
….. My overriding memory of Muschamp is him getting beat twice in Tuscaloosa, because he bit on the play action fake when he was playing DEEP and had deep safety responsibility….
——-
UGA never played Alabama in Tuscaloosa when Muschamp was playing for the Dogs.
Paul in RDU
July 20th, 2011
11:53 pm
LakeDawg
July 20th, 2011
7:54 pm
Tampa Gator’
Tebow, et al posted big numbers against the poor teams
———–
With Tebow as starting QB, UF 40 points a game against UGA. This is 1 pt a game more than they scored against Vanderbilt
Just Me
July 21st, 2011
12:00 am
Paul you are really swinging the Hammer tonight.
Just Me
July 21st, 2011
12:01 am
good points PiRUD
Paul in RDU
July 21st, 2011
12:06 am
@JB
Bill Lewis was HC at GT for more than 1 year. He was fired as HC 8 games into his 3rd year. In 9 years as an HC (just about 3 each at Wyoming, ECU and GT) he had 1 winning year. As HC at GT, Lewis lost his team after benching his best QB Donnie Davis and starting Tommie Luginbill (currently of ESPN). Luginbill went 1-10. When GT fans complained about Chan Gaily I just laughed – Bill Lewis was infinitely worse as HC.
Longhorn alert
July 21st, 2011
12:11 am
Did no one ever watch Muschamps D at Texas, I saw at least 20 of their games while he was the coordinator, his defenses always gave up a bunch of points and he looked more like a crazed cheerleader than he did a coach……. Some call it passion and energy, I thought that he just look like an idiot…… Anyway, I am glad football is almost here to bad UGA is going to be terrible again…. I guess LSU will be my pick to win the SEC, but Don’t sleep on Arkansas or MSU
Paul in RDU
July 21st, 2011
12:19 am
With Muschamp as DC, Texas went 12-1, 13-1 and 5-7 (30-9) giving up 19, 17 and 22 a game, Not sure which 20 games Longhorn alert watched.
Longhorn alert
July 21st, 2011
12:37 am
Not the games that they played teams like Rice, Kansas or Utep….but just the ones I watched, they gave up a lot of points but yes they won the majority of those games because they out scored the other team…. But thanks stat boy… I appreciate your input!!!!
Just Me
July 21st, 2011
12:39 am
Paul
giving up under 23 points a game you should be able to win.
Foghorn Longhorn
UGA scored 30 points in a lot of games last year and still lost.
Just Me
July 21st, 2011
12:42 am
Longhorn alert
yes they won the majority of those games because they out scored the other team
I bet they won EVERY game that they OUT SCORED the other team. I think that is how a WINNER is decided. It is not the team with the fewest points that wins in football.
Longhorn alert
July 21st, 2011
1:04 am
LOL I am glad you know that “just me” I thought I was just bloging with some anger little man that got left out of all the playground games, but I stand corrected you are a football genius, somebody give the man a clipboard and a whistle…… Just Me is ready for the big times….. But just as a side note I hope Muschamp does well and I am not a FLA fan, but was just saying that the games I watched Texas,… The D did not play to well….. But if you say he is great, maybe you know him better than I do stat boy!!!!! I mean Coach
Patrick Romano WAR DAMN EAGLE
July 21st, 2011
1:07 am
He was a winner as a player @ UGA as an Auburn Tiger coach, UT, Austin,Texas coach, NC and I don’t see anything but winning in UF…Great luck to you Muschamp…
Edo River
July 21st, 2011
1:22 am
I have gone to school with his father. From this time on I am a Gator fan.
Longhorn alert
July 21st, 2011
1:25 am
Lol thanks Just me and I thought I was just blogging with some anger little man that got left out of all of the playground games as a boy…… But I stand corrected Just me is a football genius!!!!! Sign him up boys, give that man a clipboard and a whistle, he is ready for the big times!…… As a side note I hope Muschamp does well… I just said in the games I watched Texas play while he was the DC, they did not play well, the games were entertaining, but if you say he is great than who am I to challenge such a football brain as yours….. You the man just me……. I mean Coach Just Me!!!!!!
LakeDawg Eats Idiots Sandwiches
July 21st, 2011
1:34 am
LakeDawg said” Tebow put big numbers against poor teams” ….haha those 50 plus points Tebow put on UGA still hurts today! LOL
SEC Media Days: Day 1 Recap
July 21st, 2011
1:47 am
[...] Mark Bradley wonders if Will Muschamp is the next Urban Meyer, or another Ron Zook. [...]
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July 21st, 2011
1:53 am
[...] Mark Bradley wonders if Will Muschamp is the next Urban Meyer, or another Ron Zook. [...]
coachgator
July 21st, 2011
4:13 am
gators go 10-2…lsu on the road and the ole ball coach on the road
go gators
tony
July 21st, 2011
4:46 am
I want Mr Richt to succeed more than any1 because I am a dawg’s fan, but the man is just too stubborn to be a championship caliber coach. If it weren’t for BV and all the talent he gets I doubt he would be a successful hc. His offense has hurt his team more than anything but he refuse to address the problem. He has been the hc at uga 10 yrs now but his offense has never been rank in the top 10 total offense. His offense is what concerns me going into this season.
Total Offense……….Total Defense…..record
2001-rank 21st…………rank 49th…………8-4
2002-rank 49th…………rank 15th………..13-1
2003-rank 58th…………rank 4th………….11-3
2004-rank 31st…………rank 8th………….10-2
2005-rank 49th…………rank 18th………..10-3
2006-rank 53rd…………rank 20th………..9-4
2007-rank 74th…………rank 14th………..11-2
2008-rank 22nd………..rank 22nd……….10-3
2009-rank 75th…………rank 38th………..8-5
2010-rank 56th…………rank 23rd………..6-7
National Champions
Florida 2006-Total O rank 6th….Total Defense rank 6th
LSU 2007-Total O rank 26th….. Total Defense rank 3rd
Florida 2008 Total O rank 15th.. Total Defense rank 9th
Alabama 2009 Total O rank 42…Total Defense rank 2nd
Auburn 2010 Total O rank 7th…..Total Defense rank 60th
B-Bro
July 21st, 2011
6:08 am
I have no doubt the Gators will be ready to play any and every game with this coaching staff. I had some doubts about Brantley but now that Weiss is there I believe all that will work out and we’ll see the great quarterback skills come out of Brantley as we known him to have at the beginning. Best to the Gators on that run to the SEC & National Title.
bull-gator
July 21st, 2011
6:25 am
Gators only loss in regular season is to the Tide. Brantley is benched in this game as he throws 3 picks and loses a fumble. Driskel takes the helm in the 4th quarter and never looks back. I’ve been watching Brantly for several years now and I don’t think he has the mental skill set to play at this level. Just an observation…
georgiadawg
July 21st, 2011
6:38 am
Tampa Gator,
Foley didn’t hire Meyer. The new president Bernie Meacham had him hired as an agreement for Meacham to come to Fl. Zook was fired before the season even started. The powers that be were scared to death he might win the SEC and put them into the position of having to fire him. When he lost to Miss. State they pulled the trigger when they had the chance. Foley was just a spectator. Don’t doubt me on this.
Buckeye
July 21st, 2011
6:44 am
Neither.
He’s just another georgia redneck pompous jerk. At least that’s how he came across during his SECville media day.
Gen Neyland
July 21st, 2011
6:55 am
As in most cases, time will tell but what he has going in his favor is like those whose footsteps he follows, he’ll only have to leave the state of Florida a few times a season to play away…
Columbus Dawg
July 21st, 2011
7:08 am
Aubie,Aubie,Aubie, seems that the NCAA has stepped up it’s investigation since your D.A. coach popped off down in Destin! Seems that Finebaum was told by a legitimate source that the NCAA thinks it has found the bagman who was the link to Newton with the cash money!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Gatorbait
July 21st, 2011
7:11 am
Bradley is hoping this guy is successful. Weis calling the plays and Muschamp overseeing the Defense. Sounds pretty good to me. Do you want Mike Bozo calling plays or Charlie Weis? Richt will be fired well before Muschamp.
Columbus Dawg
July 21st, 2011
7:12 am
Yeah, right bull-gator, I would not bet your house on that prediction, Murray will finish properly this time around in Jax, mark it down.
“Mediocre Muschamp” sucked as a player at Georgia, and sucked as D coach at Auburn. Dawgs owned his sorry butt, and will again.
Columbus Dawg
July 21st, 2011
7:14 am
This will be the year that starts the turnaround against the Gators, and this blog will look a lot different before long. Will be no mealy mouth Auburn dips, and Gator boys will be no where to be found. can’t wait.
King Gator
July 21st, 2011
7:34 am
Wake up Columbus Dawg, the Pups are 4th or 5th at best in the SEC most years and don’t expect that to change anytime soon. The Gators are going to be just fine and will continue to own Georgia in Jax. Go Gators!!
Sloan
July 21st, 2011
7:47 am
I just pray that Muschamp doesn’t make it obvious to UGA that we blew it when we should have been hiring him ourselves after last season.
GT
July 21st, 2011
7:47 am
Pro football coaches do not always do well in the college ranks. Charlie Weis is a perfect example. It takes a huge amount of work to be an assistant coach in the SEC. You get raw talent that does not know fundamentals coming out of high school. You have a few practices to teach them this and then bang the season starts. Georgia is a victim of this as much as anybody. Great offensive line talent poorly coached. Muschamp is too young to control Weis’s mouth or his work habits. That guy didn’t get that fat working hard and being discipled. Muschamp would have been better off hiring his brother the high school coach in Atlanta. Someone he can trust who know fundamental football.
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July 21st, 2011
7:52 am
[...] Mark Bradley of the AJC doesn’t think Muschamp is the next Zook. [...]
Fleming Island Dawg
July 21st, 2011
7:55 am
King Gator Georgia has 12 SEC Championships so I was wondering exactly what years are you thinking when you say “most” years we are 4th or 5th in the SEC. I think Florida won their 1st one ever in 1993.
charles s lowder
July 21st, 2011
8:00 am
Zook still beat Georgia as will his successor whomever it might be.
Jimmy Crack
July 21st, 2011
8:03 am
RON ZOOK 2: THE URBMEYER STRIKES BACK
This season for Florida will be the new high-salaried coaches versus a player roster so mediocre that it caused Urban Meyer Lansky to flee the sunshine state to pursue his true talent…interviewing people.
Ted Striker
July 21st, 2011
8:08 am
The Delta’s at Faber College may have been on double secret probation however the Zooker was on quadruple public head coach probation at UF from day one.
He wasn’t Spurrier and he wasn’t Knute Rockne however I couldn’t help but be sympathetic to a guy who had a website up and running to fire him before he even checked in to the Holiday Inn for a quick shower.
At least they put Muschamp up at the Marriott.
Columbus Dawg
July 21st, 2011
8:08 am
Hey King of the D.A.’s, UGA is third in SEC in SEC Titles, leads the series with UF, and is tied with Oklahoma for forth in nation in all time bowl wins. Uf is the one who is fifth in SEC in titles, and is no where significant in # of bowl wins. UGA has twice the tradition and history as the Gators. WILL turn series around this year.
WTF
July 21st, 2011
8:11 am
Just had to get your dig in at Goff didn’t you Bradley – a loyal Bulldog who step in when Dooley and the Athletic Board screwed up bringing in Erk to run the program. May not have been a great coach, but did the best he could in a tough situation and is now treatead as a pariah. Muschamp seems to have faired farily well as both a player and assistant coach, even though he was given a chance and played for Goff. Of course, you would have been screaming for Dooley’s firing after his first two or three seasons.
RM
July 21st, 2011
8:17 am
I hope he fails miserably! Traitor!
Paul N Destin
July 21st, 2011
8:25 am
UF will be a very good team this year because they have a lot of talent and Will is taking back the program from some of the thugs on the team. Urban had let it slip enough some and Will has cleaned up those folks. I think most see that Brantley’s hype was more about his father than the players ability. It will take at least 3 years to get a handle on just what Will is as far as a HC. Can he win with Urban’s folks..I think yes. Can he be the Head man and manage the entire process? That is what we don’t know and will not know until at least 3 years. Everyone is not a HC…see Mike Shula and Mike Dubose for details. It is one thing to to be in charge of a section and be a success but being in charge of the entire business is another. You UGA fans should really not be talking Gators with your record of success over the past 20 years. You need to take Coach Bryant’s advice and that is “Tend to your own knitting”. We all should. He also stated…”Tuff times don’t last but tuff people do”.
DawginLex
July 21st, 2011
8:32 am
I am sticking to what I said before.
No Tebow=No titles
Tebow=Florida’s Herschel
Muschamp won’t be Zook but you take Tebow away from Meyer and you have a pretty good coach but no national title.
It is a definite advantage to Georgia and the rest of the SEC that Muschamp is running pro style offense. His defense should be very good this year and it will need to be becuase Brantley ain’t Tom Brady II.
Florida won’t go back to 70’s and 80’s levels under Muschamp because the talent base is too good.
DawginLex
July 21st, 2011
8:35 am
As far as the Zook comparisons go, if we go 1-2 over the next 3 years versus Muschamp but our overall records are
13-1
11-3
10-2
With 1 SEC title and 2 SEC East titles, like 2002-2004, I would think we would take it considering last year.
tom boyd
July 21st, 2011
8:55 am
Let see:
Offense- Charlie Weiss vs Todd Grantham check
Defense- Dan Quinn/Will Muschamp vs Mike Bobo check
I’m ordering my kegs for Florida-Georgia
Tampa Gator
July 21st, 2011
9:01 am
Enter your comments here
Buckeye
July 21st, 2011
9:05 am
uga’s Nike Pro Combat………………..
Since the haughty Chip Towers has blocked me and denied my appeal, I have to comment here on the uni’s for uga’s only game in the Dome this season………….
A pig in a bonnett is still a pig
DawginLex
July 21st, 2011
9:06 am
Buckeye
your ban was probably from one of the moderators.
I sent Chip an e-mail and he unblocked me
rock steady freddy
July 21st, 2011
9:07 am
MUSCHUMP WILL GET ROCKED STEADY, JUST LIKE OL’ FREDDY! AaROOF!
Buckeye
July 21st, 2011
9:14 am
Dawgin,
I did too and he responded no dice.
Chip can take a long walk of a short pier.
So much for freedon of speech and alternative trash talk points of view.
Hope you are staying cool up in Lexington.
Ringleader
July 21st, 2011
9:16 am
Georgia did play in Tuscaloosa……..You may recall thats when Brice Hunter dropped a wide open pass that cost us the game.
Tampa Gator
July 21st, 2011
9:20 am
DawginLex….
You could take one great player away from the last six SEC title teams….and most likely make the same point.
Fact is….the coaches of those six teams….including Meyer…..took great high school players and turned them into great college players. That is what great coaches do. Dooley did the same with Herschel…..and became a one time legend for it. At least Meyer won two NC…..one with Tebow…and one with Leak (Tebow played a very minor role in that first Meyer coached title no matter what you think….he was basically a short yardage fullback then).
RedandBlackDAWG
July 21st, 2011
9:21 am
It is time to let the games begin. I am so tired of all the banter back and forth, when not a single one of us is a coach of even a minor football program, much less a top universirty in the SEC. Lets’t see how it all plays out on the field. Each side has had it’s say about the others coach, but let’s just let the games decide what university is in better shape, coach wise.
DawginLex
July 21st, 2011
9:21 am
what did you do wrong Buckeye?
bobbybrave
July 21st, 2011
9:25 am
gators will win the east…at lsu and maybe the ole ball coach…will be the only two conf loses..the bullpups in jax will be no problem…we own them…go gators
shankit
July 21st, 2011
9:27 am
TAMPA GATOR @”Alabama in the swamp, and very seldom does anyone beat down the Gators
in the swamp. ” I recall when Shane Matthews was quarterback, Bama came down
and “stomped” the Gators, and then beat them again later on.
Tampa Gator
July 21st, 2011
9:29 am
Sloan….
Muschamp has made it clear…..and he said it again yesterday…..the only job he would have left the HC in waiting job at Texas for…..is the Florida job. “When Jeremy Foley calls, you listen.” “He didn’t say, “When the latest AD at Georgia calls, you listen.” But I must say…..your current AD is going to be a good one….he had great training under the best AD in the country.
npgator
July 21st, 2011
9:29 am
We could have Pee Wee Herman coaching and the Dogs will still be our bitches!
Gator Mike
July 21st, 2011
9:31 am
It looks like this will be aa very interesting year. As all Gators, I have complete confidence in Coach WM until proven otherwise. All of our rambling will be settled by the players on the field and how the coaches prepare them. The Gators will not suck on offense as bad as they did last year under inferior coaching.
I am not saying that the Gators will make it to Atlanta, but they will surprise some naysayers.
Additionally, I do not buy into all of the USCe hype for a nuber of reasons. In today’s Charleston, SC paper Latimore is already saying that his goal is to win the Heisman. Where is the team first attitude in this guy. If UGA stuffs him, Garcia will implode and UGA will win this year in Athens.
Let the fun begin.
Tampa Gator
July 21st, 2011
9:33 am
DawginLex….
Tebow had very little to do with the first NC for Florida under Meyer. He was basically a short yardage FB for that team. That team was lead by Chris Leak and the defense (ask the OSU players). So….maybe you should reconsider your position on that idea.
DawginLex
July 21st, 2011
9:36 am
No way Tampa.
You should KNOW that Tebow being there was a safety blanket and a source of inspiration for that team.
Without him, you lose 2 more games.
He is your Herschel.
That is the greatest compliment I can give to anyone.
bobbybrave
July 21st, 2011
9:38 am
the gators beat bama by 10 points in the swamp……new qb for bama will have no chance…..the defense for bama will be great….but fla will stop the run and put the game in a rookie qb
shankit
July 21st, 2011
9:38 am
In fairness to Ron Zook, Meyer won his first national championship
with Zook’s players, and Tebow did not win two championships. Chris
Leak won the first and he was recruited and coached by Zoo,
New Florida coach: The Next Urban Meyer or (gulp) The Next Ron Zook? | Rick Bozich
July 21st, 2011
9:41 am
[...] Read Bradley’s column here – and then you decide. [...]
FLDawg
July 21st, 2011
9:46 am
Gator fans…We all know you didn’t like Ron Zook, but you do realize that Urban Meyer won his first SEC and Nat’l Championship with Zook recruited talent. No Chris Leak and supporting cast, no 2006 championships. Note: Tebow was only a fullback then.
DawginLex
July 21st, 2011
9:46 am
Tebow was on the team in 2006 and 2008.
That makes him a part of both teams.
His role in 2006 was much more limited than 2008 but nevertheless, he was there. His presence in the locker room and the excitement he generated on the field even in 2006 was a difference maker. Remember LSU in 2006 at home? The jump pass? He was the ultimate safety blanket for Leak.
I stand by my statement
FLDawg
July 21st, 2011
9:47 am
Don’t forget about Trent Richardson folks. It’s not like he won’t be able to run anymore or that the Bama O-line will wither. I see Bama by 7+ in the Swamp.
DC
July 21st, 2011
9:52 am
I’m surprised no one is talking about Sheridan’s comments on Finebaum yesterday….
Basically stating that his “inside man” thinks they found AU’s bagman and they want him to step forward…Sheridan makes a bunch of comments in the segment and kinda backtracks on bunch of stuff but IF the persons involved step forward it will be bad for AU…
But, if none of this can be proven then NCAA will drop the case in 3-6 months..
Said 15 other schools are being investigated…
DawginLex
July 21st, 2011
9:53 am
Danny Sheridan claiming that NCAA is close to disclosing the “bag man” who was the 3rd party that actually got the money to Cecil Newton.
Sheridan claims the source is credible, someone he has known for 25 years.
Also said if “bag man” doesn’t come forward, case will be closed in 3 to 6 months.
no link, radio interview
Lindsey
July 21st, 2011
9:55 am
The name under that photo should be Judas Muschamp, GO DAWGS!!!
DC
July 21st, 2011
9:55 am
yep said it already lex lol
DawginLex
July 21st, 2011
9:55 am
DC I think we were typing at the same time……….
GTT
July 21st, 2011
9:56 am
Follow Bradley’s lead: It’s Head Ball Coach not Ol’ Ball Coach or Ole Ball Coach (who can be found at Pedro’s South of the Border).
Tampa Gator
July 21st, 2011
10:05 am
DawginLex…..
If Tebow was the starting QB on that 2006 team instead of Leak….the Gators would have lost 3 or 4 games. Tebow was not ready in 2006….he was a role player. You can take 5 or 10 plays by other members of that tream……and make the same statement about that play and that player. Leak was the leader of the 2006 team….and the reason….along with a great defense…that the Gators won the SEC title and beat OSU in the title game. And Tebow had great defensive support on his team as well. You don’t win championship because of one player…..even the 1980 team had more that Herschel. You win WITH them….and with great coaching….and that is what Meyer supplied at Florida….except for last year….which I am still not very happy with him about. Meyer placing Steve Addazio in charge of the offense was one of the worst decisions Meyer ever made…..and very few Gator fans understand his thinking on that one.
Tide Rising
July 21st, 2011
10:17 am
So Muschamp is saying that the strength and conditioning coach is the most important assistant in the program? One thing is for sure. He’s sending the message that his teams will be physical. If there is one thing he learned in watching Bama dominate his Texas on the line of scrimmage and Florida do the same to OU he learned that to win in the SEC you better be physical.
Columbus Dawg
July 21st, 2011
10:21 am
I believe what was said was that if no proof was found in the allegations against Auburn that it would be closed in three to six months.
NewnanDawg
July 21st, 2011
10:30 am
I hope Mushchamp fails miserably, like Zook, at Florida.
That said, 6 months ago, I was hoping he’d be the next head coach at UGA…..
If Richt loses to Mushchamp this year, that will be 4 UF head coaches he has a losing record against.
Columbus Dawg
July 21st, 2011
10:35 am
Sheridan said that the NCAA thinks they know who the third party is and that the money came from a “wealthy Auburn supporter”. Bagman stepping forward is not the only way to find proof.
DC
July 21st, 2011
10:36 am
no….if it can’t be proven….I’m sure there are a bunch of leads..but its what you can prove…this isn’t Judge judy…
DC
July 21st, 2011
10:40 am
NCAA thinks…and they think they know the booster as well..but they need the “bagman” to step forward or else they don’t have a case..b/c obviously…if this is true..money has been filtered through channels and it is now hard to trace and wont be able to trace im sure until after 7 yrs
KA
July 21st, 2011
10:44 am
I was Muschamp’s frat brother and we drank together often downtown. Let me tell you, this guy hates the Gators. Ever since Chris Doering and Steve Spurrier came into Sanford Stadium and hung 50plus on him he has vowed revenge ever since. Muschamp was the laughing stock of our school for years after that pathetic game. My gut tells me he is UGA mole and will try and blow-up the Gator program from within. He will do this by hiring hack coordinators like Charlie Weiss…who himself tried to blow up the Notre Dame program from within and did a great job. All Gator fans beware…. your program is going back to pre-1991 levels. mainly because your head coach hates you and your gaudy orange and blue.
Cardinal Sin
July 21st, 2011
10:48 am
I love to hear all of the trash talkin dawg fans who have nothing to back up their smack! FL has owned GA for over 20 yrs now with more SEC Championships and NC’s so until your LACK LUSTER Program can actually WIN the Big Games, I would SHUT THE F UP!
SC or FL wins the East in 2012!
Enough Said!
KA
July 21st, 2011
10:52 am
2012??? Why don’t you go ahead and predict when the world will end while your at it?????
Fried Gator Recipe
July 21st, 2011
10:58 am
Texas was 2-6 last year in the Big 12 and 5-7 overall.
The great Muschamp defense was 49th in points allowed (23.7 points per game).
Texas was glad to see the honorable Coach in Waiting fail to fulfill his Longhorn contract.
Muschamp is an over-rated coach who possesses a big motor mouth, just like Charlie Weis.
headley lamar
July 21st, 2011
11:00 am
FL has owned GA for over 20 yrs now
Yeah but we owned you for the 80 years before that.
UGA has as much money, facilities, and talent as anyone. Its just a matter of time before that series turns around again.
81Dawg
July 21st, 2011
11:00 am
Do you guys think ole “Chiz” is starting sweat a little?
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2011/7/20/2285291/cam-newton-danny-sheridan-finebaum
Just Me
July 21st, 2011
11:07 am
NewnanDawg
July 21st, 2011
10:30 am
I hope Mushchamp fails miserably, like Zook, at Florida.
That said, 6 months ago, I was hoping he’d be the next head coach at UGA…..
This statement is why UGA fans are the most hated. You took what I wanted so now I hope what you got sucks. keep it classy UGA fans. A year ago UGA fans wanted SMART or MUSCHAMP to be UGA’s DC, but now those guys suck. Grantham is the greatest and who the Dawgs really wanted anyway.
David Granger
July 21st, 2011
11:11 am
Florida lost a lot of very key players last year, and it might be hard for Coach Muschamp to have a good first year. I hope the Florida faithful don’t get down on him, because I think he’s going to be a fine head coach.
The very first real move he made was to kick Janoris Jenkins off the team after his “third strike”. Jenkins was a senior cornerback (all SEC pick) who had been a three-year starter and who…by all accounts…passed on a first-round draft projection to return to school.
Muschamp did not give us that old “wait and let the legal system run its course” BS. He didn’t suspend Jenkins for a couple of “thump a chump” games. And he didn’t give us those old “he needs the structure and discipline of football” excuses that we’ve all heard before. It was just “this is your third strike, so you’re gone.”
I sure wish we had that kind of strict, no-nonsense discipline at Georgia over the last few years. That would have solved a lot of our problems, both on and off the field.
Gatorbait
July 21st, 2011
11:27 am
Charlie Weis versus Mike Bozo calling plays- not much of a comparision. Bradley and UGA fans talking trash after losing to UCF in a bowl game- now that is funny. When will Richt finally be fired???
grizzly
July 21st, 2011
11:29 am
Spurrier was both smart and lucky. By 1990 all pretense of “student athlete” had ended in SEC admissions offices. From then to now, Florida’s gold mine of talent has supplied national champions, in Gainesville and other places.
He's the next Bob Davie
July 21st, 2011
11:37 am
except douchier.
What a tempermental little beyatch he was at the conference yesterday.
O….N…. when a guy couldn’t get his microphone to work.
Enjoy him jortsamulleters
how2fish
July 21st, 2011
11:39 am
Without starting WWIII I have a question for Gator Nation…I keep hearing about CWM’s defensive skill. Last year both UGA and Texas lost 7 games . UGA with a new DC and new scheme and without the ideal personnel to run that scheme gave up 28 or more points TWICE. Texas on the other hand with a time tested scheme and recruits the DC recruited gave up 28 or more points SIX times and their other lost was by 24 points. Compound that with a new OC and new scheme and that is really not cause for concern? I’m talking this year I have nothing to go on about how CWM will be long term just talking this year. I think he will be pretty good but again that is just my hunch.
Alabama | MrSEC.com
July 21st, 2011
11:48 am
[...] their season opener. (Seriously, Nike, we enjoyed the Trump Soho last year.)7. Is Will Muschamp the next Urban Meyer or the next Ron Zook?8. South Carolina has Steve Spurrier talking about championships again.9. Brent Calloway opened [...]
BG
July 21st, 2011
11:50 am
Muschamp is a fruitcake.
oldbird
July 21st, 2011
11:52 am
Before Spurrier arrived, does anyone remember how many SEC titles Florida had won? Exactly as many as Vanderbilt – ZERO.
JP
July 21st, 2011
11:52 am
As a Gator fan, I think we’ll go 7-5 or maybe, if lucky 8-4. Our schedule is really difficult this year – we get LSU and Alabama, as well as FSU at the end of the year. Those are probably 3 losses there. Throw in S.C. and UGA, and we could easily lose 5 games….. And that’s not counting the rest of our schedule…..
DIT
July 21st, 2011
11:59 am
I’m a Dawg through and through, but to believe that UF will be less with CWM is crazy. There is way too much talent on that team and in the state of Florida. Why be bitter and hope that he does bad? Being a former Dawg I hope he does well except for one game out of the year.
WDE
July 21st, 2011
12:00 pm
@Gatorbait well lets see Ol’ Charlie didn’t do such a great job with all the talent he pulled in a ND did he now…and I know I know well he was a great NFL OC..newsflash he wouldn’t be dealing with grown men of NFL caliber talent at UF…you really think that ego that is every bit big as his waistline will allow him to be a great college coach? Or allow him to get through the tough times with friction when his Boss is 20 years his junior and has never been in the NFL or a HC before…I tell you what I see in UF’s future fireworks and not the good kind.
Big O
July 21st, 2011
12:13 pm
Interesting dialogue here. As a Vol who recognizes the reality that TN’s only chance is to be a spoiler, I’d like to throw my sideline opinion in. The whole SEC East is a crap shoot this year. Too many unknowns from top to bottom.
GA has a promising QB, but O-line and running back support is questionable, have been horrific underperformers wuith their talent in recent years, maybe 3 – 4 losses possibly …
FL has talent, but Brantley has to step up or they are looking at possibly 4 losses, maybe even 5.
South Carolina is SC, they can be giant killers one week and lose to the 50th ranked team the next, no way they repeat, they don’t have a winning mentality, again 4 – 5 losses.
Tn, who knows they could win 7 or lose 7, that pathetic lightweight schedule will keep them afloat, but still maybe 4 – 6 losses.
Ky, Vandy, same ole same ole.
Bottom line, I still think Florida emerges at the top. Most depth. Won’t matter after the Saturday of the SEC Championship though, the West, which used to be a doormat, has 4 or 5 teams that could emerge in a NC run. Bad year for the East, good year for the West…again.
TigerinGA
July 21st, 2011
12:24 pm
He will do much better than UGA in his first season! Richt is too soft and not developing talent and will pay the price with his job this year.
joe taxpayer
July 21st, 2011
12:27 pm
If Zook owned the dogs than he will have no trouble.
Tampa Gator
July 21st, 2011
12:30 pm
Big O….congrats on an intelligent post.
The SEC East is a crapshoot between South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida….all with talent but with issues to be determined on game day. All three teams have the means to beat the other…..but much depends on the QB play for SC and Florida. Georgia is set at that position. Georgia’s problems are elsewhere….lack of depth and proven talent at critical postions on both sides of the ball. Kentucky will improve this year, as will Tennesssee and Vandy. But the East is substandard to the West with LSU, Bama, Arkansas, and even MSU being tough teams. Auburn…will drop some this year, of course, with Farley and Newton gone. But they will be a tought team….unless the NCAA comes down real hard on them. Mississppi…..what a Nutty professor they have…..just a matter of time before a move is made at the HC postion there.
The SEC East champion could be 5-3 in the division again this year…..and that says it all.
But I still think Florida will stun Bama in THE SWAMP this year. Just a feeling…and not based on facts.
Woody Bass
July 21st, 2011
12:33 pm
Are we really going to compare a man who got a job after he has proven success everywhere he’s been… to a man who was lucky to get that job and hadnt proven anything of any significance anywhere other than he was a really good recruiter?
hell… UGAly recruited well too… and they still managed to stink it up.
Must-Chomp has a lot to prove.. no doubt.. hell even Weis has a lot to prove (to me). But there is no doubt in my mind that Must-Chomp will be FAR more successful than Zook was. Must-Chomp just has the unforunate luck to come in on year one with a schedule that every member of the Gator Nation will have to stock up on valium for.
Urban Meyer
July 21st, 2011
1:06 pm
Can’t believe they hired a Georgia guy to coach my team! He won’t last long…will be sitting by me and Timmy at the pool soon!
WDE
July 21st, 2011
1:39 pm
@Woody Bass agreed with you on the schedule that is a brutal one.
ga gator
July 21st, 2011
1:47 pm
Woody Bass most of my friends believe they will go 9-3 and be the spoiler for either SC or UGA. If Weis does even reasonably well with Brantley they will be better. The Defense that played at least 5 true freshman last year will be the strength of the team and it will all depend on Brantley. There is hope though as the #1 QB signed last year went through spring and is already drawing comparisons to Tebow which will add even more pressure on Brantley.
GrantParkGator
July 21st, 2011
3:20 pm
Ron Zook had a winning record vs CMR. That should tell you EVERYTHING about CMR as a HC. Starts from the TOP. Willie got the blame for years and now it’s Bobo’s turn to take the blame for CMR. At some point the losses have to fall upon his shoulders. John Cooper was 111-43 as HC tOSu but couldn’t keep his job because of his record vs 2-10-1. Sounds like CMR.
Gatorbait
July 21st, 2011
3:20 pm
WDE Notre Dame was a top offense under Weis. He can’t coach defense and isn’t a head coach. At UF his job is simply to put points on the board. Scary thought for UGA.
Terry
July 21st, 2011
4:07 pm
I think you gator fans need to take a look at Kansas City Chiefs season last year who they played and how good Charlie Weis offense really was against those teams.
Delbert D.
July 21st, 2011
6:15 pm
“The Gators Will Muschamp.” That sounds odd. What will they do after they muschamp?
Gatorbait
July 21st, 2011
7:08 pm
Terry the Weis was amazing with the Chiefs last year. Not sure what you are talking about.
Northside Dawg
July 23rd, 2011
1:14 am
Zook was 2-1 against the Dawgs, not 2-0.
UGAJD
July 24th, 2011
9:05 pm
Only thing we know is he won’t be Urban Meyer (thank God). Beyond that– we know little. And that’s both cause for hope and reason to be terrified. Good column Mark. And to my overzealous UGA compatriots– let’s taper the celebrations, shall we? I seem to remember Meyer’s worst team beating us in Jacksonville last year with three quarterbacks and Jeff Demps on one leg.
JoeV
July 26th, 2011
4:41 pm
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