UPDATE: Tech vacates 2009 ACC title, gets 4 years’ probation

Let the record reflect that Buzz the Bee declined to comment. (AJC photo by Johnny Crawford)

Let the record reflect that Buzz the Bee declined to comment. (AJC photo by Johnny Crawford)

UPDATE: Georgia Tech has to vacate its 2009 ACC championship and has been placed on probation through 2015 by the NCAA. Tech has also been fined $100,000.

First, let me emphasize that Georgia Tech folks are being very quiet about this. Nobody in any official capacity wants to speak ahead of the NCAA’s teleconference at 3 p.m. (Tech president Bud Peterson and AD Dan Radakovich will offer the Institute’s response at a 4:30 briefing.) That said …

I have attempted to sniff around. And here’s what I’ve been led to believe:

• Nobody is getting fired.

• No scholarships will be lost.

• There will be no postseason ban.

Let me also emphasize this: Tech folks are expecting a significant hit. And now you’re asking: If the significant hit doesn’t take the form of firings/scholarships/bans, what could it be?

The only things that spring to mind — and let me stress this is me speculating — are a possible forfeiture of some weight, and/or the application of the dreaded “lack of institutional control” label on the Tech athletic department. Then again, I could be way wrong. (Wouldn’t be the first time.)

Esteemed colleague Doug Roberson has written on the AJC’s Tech blog that the violations themselves aren’t believed to be major but Tech’s cooperation might have been, at least in the NCAA’s eyes, less than rigorous. (Mr. Roberson has also reported that both Demaryius Thomas and Morgan Burnett, members of the 2009 ACC championship team, have denied receiving improper benefits.)

And that’s all I know at the moment. I wish I knew more. But we’ll all get the picture very soon. Stay tuned, won’t you?

By Mark Bradley

198 comments Add your comment

rawdawg

July 14th, 2011
1:40 pm

me

July 14th, 2011
1:41 pm

Fire Mark Richt.

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
1:42 pm

figures a UGA fan would be the first to comment on a Tech article. LOL

Aaron

July 14th, 2011
1:43 pm

So a slap on the wrist? And $cam Newton still gets away clean. NCAA is a joke.

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
1:44 pm

Figures a UGA fan would be the first to comment on a Tech article. LOL!

the real Old Gold

July 14th, 2011
1:44 pm

Probably not much of anything. Meanwhile.. Cam Newton has three national title rings and is a millionaire..

Mark Bradley

July 14th, 2011
1:44 pm

I’m pretty sure Tech will NOT announce that Mark Richt has been fired.

Mark Bradley

July 14th, 2011
1:44 pm

And kudos to rawdawg, as if he needs them.

boots

July 14th, 2011
1:45 pm

Doesn’t sound good for the Jackets. Yet I’m sure their fans will find some way to slam the Dawgs. However, which program has been in serious trouble with the NCAA more often? Yes, it is the program on North Avenue, not in Athens.

me

July 14th, 2011
1:45 pm

You know your football program is a joke when you’ve lost 9 out of 10 to Mark Richt.

TheAntiMe

July 14th, 2011
1:46 pm

I never trusted Buzz. I’ll bet that he’s behind all of this. That mascot has shifty eyes.

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
1:46 pm

All I know is that Auburn better get hit bigtime by the NCAA. Even their own players from years ago said they were paid. NCAA is a joke. They don’t even know how to crown a real champion. Terrible.

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
1:47 pm

boots. What team has been in trouble with the law? exactly the fulmer cup winners in Athens.

rduck

July 14th, 2011
1:48 pm

not sure what to make of all this. seems to me that if there was something major going on or about to happen, it would have leaked before now. hopefully this is all minor, but with the NCAA looking to reaffirm their status as the “all mighty”, they may look to set an example here. guess we’ll all know soon…

Tech Fan

July 14th, 2011
1:48 pm

So let me get this straight.

It seems that the NCAA is investigating all championship teams from 2009 and 2010.

Bad news for us Tech fans because UGA most definitely WILL NOT be investigated! LOL!!!!!! They haven’t sniffed a championship! No pun intended.

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
1:50 pm

Yep, the mutts are out in force. How’s that running back situation working out at UGA. Better hope crowell is the real deal. UGA been in plenty of trouble in the past. Remember Harrick. I’m sure if the NCAA is investigating Tech pretty hard, it’s only a matter of time before they bring the hammer down on UGA.

JacketonProbabtion

July 14th, 2011
1:50 pm

Rueben Houston ring a bell? How about the rapist d-lineman who got let back on the team under Turkey Neck? Ramblingwreck83, you’re a genius.

MorganBurnett

July 14th, 2011
1:51 pm

Just when I left tech after being TOASTED by former Dawg Caleb King the NCAA has gotta drop the hammer on me for obtaining a free Escalade.

I will have James Harrison on this case soon and he will set all things straight!

Dam you Caleb King!

Coach Hewitt...

July 14th, 2011
1:51 pm

So as usual, you don’t know chit Bradley…

Buckeye

July 14th, 2011
1:51 pm

MB,

You must give raw dog a two minute warning…that, or he lives for your tweets.

Ramblin Man

July 14th, 2011
1:51 pm

This is reportedly over Burnett and Thomas receiving a watch and shirt from an agent. I would not think that this would be a big hit for GT unless CPJ or D RAD knew and did nothing about it. Who knows though GT could be the scape goat the NCAA is looking for. Slam GT to flex the muscle as GT is not a big national powerhouse name, then slap the rest of the teams on the wrist who are.

Chumps

July 14th, 2011
1:53 pm

2009 acc champs = tallest midget

JacketonProbabtion

July 14th, 2011
1:54 pm

Sess Poole in Athens

July 14th, 2011
1:56 pm

It’s complete hypocrisy for any UGA fan to criticize Tech. UGA fans don’t seem to care about anything but football, and they don’t care if their players are enrolled in silly majors that no parents who are paying the bills would send their kids to UGA for. The very few football and basketball players who graduate have no job opportunities and end up unemployed or working in menial jobs that hardly require a college degree.

Georgia Tech is a real school with serious academic standards, and that includes scholarshipped athletes. UGA has a long history of being a drunken party school, where parents send their kids for an easy degree, even if the degree itself is worthless.

Jan Kemp exposed the obscene crap going on at UGA with athletes being enrolled in courses a ten-year-old kid could pass. That was almost three decades ago, and nothing has changed. If anything, the abuses are more blatant today. Way too many illiterate morons are being recruited, and the very high arrest rate shows clearly that Richt does not care if his players have any morals or character.

The bottom line is that most Tech fans have very good jobs and productive lives that don’t depend on Tech’s football record for their happiness in life. It would be great to beat UGA more often, but when you put scholar-athletes up against dummy-athletes, it’s usually no contest.

Remember the red panties!

Techaholic

July 14th, 2011
1:56 pm

Bling bling stacks on dub$$ BALLIN YALL!!!! bling bling

crstn

July 14th, 2011
1:56 pm

did you really put the caption on the picture above as “Buzz the bee”? Come on AJC, you cover the YELLOW JACKETS…

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
1:58 pm

Rueben Houston ring a bell? How about the rapist d-lineman who got let back on the team under Turkey Neck? Ramblingwreck83, you’re a genius

The d-lineman was let back on because all that stuff was false. And having 1 bad egg (houston) in the bunch that having the entire dozen be bad (i.e. UGA), that’s not too shabby. Houston wasn’t even on the team when he got in trouble. How many UGA players have gotten into trouble once they were out of school. How about your boy Hines Ward. I guess he learned his ABC’s at UGA. Hell, how many actually make it through the program without getting in trouble with the school or the law?

Eddie G

July 14th, 2011
1:58 pm

Word. A blog about Georgia Tech, and it only takes a few minutes for the jealousy to rear it’s head. War Eagle. National Champs.

collegeballfan

July 14th, 2011
1:59 pm

If an institution is guilty of infractions then they are guilty of infractions.

The fact that it may be your team is not important. Guilty of breaking the rules is guilty of breaking the rules.

Outside Observer

July 14th, 2011
2:01 pm

JacketonProbation, do you really want to get into a comparison of names of people who have been convicted of crimes during their time at their respective school? That would eliminate one of your examples, and believe me, there are quite a few examples from your school. Get a brain.

juvenal

July 14th, 2011
2:01 pm

thanks for sniffing, Mark…..

my mouse button is stuck

July 14th, 2011
2:02 pm

Hey wreck, fix your mouse button.

One stupid post is enough!

Buzz the Bee

July 14th, 2011
2:02 pm

LMAO! Slam ‘em Mark, we’ve all known the Wreck has been cheatin’ and lyin’ for years!

I suppose this means even more vacated victories, of course tech has only one of those against UGA in the CMR era! LMAO!

DawginLex

July 14th, 2011
2:03 pm

sess poole, you need to just refer to your oft used idiotic post with a number from the “I am an idiot and I live to bash UGA” list.

It is # 28

macrotech

July 14th, 2011
2:04 pm

Guess we’ll find out around 3 today…I’m never a fan of cheating…regardless of other teams attitudes on the subject. The ncaa has proven to be erratic in it’s approach to certain teams…as a Tech fan, I felt like AJ Greene got hosed when he had to sit out all those games because of uga’s self imposed restrictions (I agree that they needed to do this, but the ncaa dragged their feet in this case) while the Ohio State players were given the chance to play out the season ONLY to leave the program before they had to sit out…in the end, though; justice reigned supreme.

Loveliest Villager

July 14th, 2011
2:04 pm

Compared to the sleaziness of Saint Mark Right and UGA, Auburn is as pure as a newborn baby.

Tim Riggins

July 14th, 2011
2:04 pm

Is Buzz a bee or a yellow jacket?

The caption above calls him Buzz the Bee.

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:07 pm

Boy we need lineman.Boise is just around the corner………What…….About Tech………Are you sure………..Let me re read it………..Damn, Cheat’n…..didn’t they just get off probation? Question. Do the 24,000 fans who attended the ACC title game get a refund? What has Johnson walked into?

Awful Waffle

July 14th, 2011
2:07 pm

I guess DawginLex is on his lunch break at the Waffle House. When you get back to the grill, I’ll take a burger and some scattered and smothered. :-)

Chpatt

July 14th, 2011
2:08 pm

I’m a tech fan, but to the person slamming UGA for being a “drunken party school where parents send their kids to get free degress.” Oh please, UGA is a good state school, a top 25 one at that in the nation. Tech stills rules academically, but people crap on UGA way too much on these blogs.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 14th, 2011
2:08 pm

It is really funny to see Tech fans squirm a little. They relish any opportunity to kill Dawg fans. Now the shoe is on the other foot and it is KILLING them.

Ex: RamblinwRECK 83, no surprise a Dawg fan 1st to comment on a Tech article?

ANSWER: Little paranoid? Rawdog comments 1st on every MB article. Then he is so paranoid his post didnt go through he re-posted it,lol. Thats funny!

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:09 pm

Bullets being sweated in Auburn today also………..That’s not over.

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
2:09 pm

my mouse button is stuck

July 14th, 2011
2:02 pm
Hey wreck, fix your mouse button.

One stupid post is enough!

Then leave. your posts don’t add anything to the conversation. I’m just stating the facts.

Chan Gailey

July 14th, 2011
2:09 pm

Miss me yet?

JacketonProbabtion

July 14th, 2011
2:10 pm

If you compare underage drinking to having 200+ pounds of marijuana, you’d be right. I don’t, and if you say you do, you are a self-righteous, hypocritical, and just plain contrary. And if that indeed is your position, certainly you are a big proponent of legalized marijuana? Ignorant jerk.

DawginLex

July 14th, 2011
2:10 pm

Good one awful waffle.

you are so original for a 3rd grade dropout

JacketonProbabtion

July 14th, 2011
2:10 pm

#stillwinning

milledgeville DAWG

July 14th, 2011
2:11 pm

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
2:12 pm

UGA fans relish every oppurtunity to slam Tech fans. That’s why their are so many on this blog.

Tech Class of 2013

July 14th, 2011
2:12 pm

More importantly when/where will the tickle pile be on our first home game?

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:13 pm

Tech Physical plant crew seen crating up ACC trophy this afternoon and taking it to the UPS store on W. Peachtree at Spring St. Crew leader over heard telling the clerk to send it collect.

techfan

July 14th, 2011
2:14 pm

If there are no future sanctions then I can’t really say im all that worried about this. Taking away wins from years ago doesn’t really concern me.

PerimeterCenterJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:14 pm

Enter your comments here

PerimeterCenterJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:14 pm

itchy trigger finger. I’m jumpy I guess.

Outside Observer

July 14th, 2011
2:14 pm

Dawginlex, I appreciate your comments, and your right to defend your team. Carry on!
JacketonProbation, no one is comparing the individual crimes (Who does that? Is there even a right answer?) Be honest, you brought up an example of a guy who committed a crime in 2005! The other had the charges dropped. Would you like to consider all crimes committed by UGA players since 2005? You just won the frickin Fulmer Cup last year. Idiot.

Jacob

July 14th, 2011
2:16 pm

It’s a yellow jacket, not a bee. Asshat.

wxwax

July 14th, 2011
2:16 pm

Knowshon Moreno getting trashed by Woody Paige in Denver.

No heart, bad in the locker room, a “bust.”

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Broncos-think-Knowshon-Moreno-is-a-bust.html

Curious George

July 14th, 2011
2:16 pm

How long has Beverly Hall been employed with Georgia Tech?

PerimeterCenterJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:16 pm

So which is it, I’m hearing Burnett got either a free Escalade or Rolex’s.

Either way no harm, no foul – even Spurrier said NCAA athletes should be paid for their services.

Curious George

July 14th, 2011
2:17 pm

When the TV movie is made about the Georgia Tech academic fraud scandal, will Tyler Perry play the role of Beverly Hall who fixes the test scores and falsifies entry requirements?

Brace For Impact!

July 14th, 2011
2:18 pm

We gonna need air bags when this Escalade hits!

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:18 pm

Chan will probably be available after this year in Buffalo.

PerimeterCenterJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:18 pm

So…yeah. If there’s not any chance of having scholarships, firings or postseason bans then I’m good. Take away the past all you want. This morning around 9am this fanbase was reading how dominant our linebackers were going to be. No one wants to face Tech with a decent defense! It’s still gonna be a good enough season! Let’s get this over with and here what hardware and other stuff we need to give back and apologize for, what changes we need to make, etc, and still go watch a good season unfold!

Go Jackets! (no matter what)

Curious George

July 14th, 2011
2:19 pm

If Coach Mark Richt had both Reggie Bush and Cam Newton on his team in the same year, and the public later found out both players were ineligible for the duration of that year, would the NCAA still make Georgia vacate that season’s loss to Florida?

Tom DienhartJust Tweeted

July 14th, 2011
2:19 pm

It’s about to go DOWN on North Avenue. CPJ and D-Rad shakin’ in their Russells.

Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 14th, 2011
2:20 pm

Good grief we got some political games going on here now. A Tech fan links the Denver Post article about Knowshon. All I wanna know is which team is the Democrats and which is the Republicans because the Spin Zone is in full effect now,lol!

1eyedJack

July 14th, 2011
2:21 pm

If they have to vacate the wins from 2009 that would make them 0 for the decade against the dawgs.

PerimeterCenterJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:21 pm

Using my handle again?! (re: 2:16pm)

D.Ellis

July 14th, 2011
2:21 pm

The Waffle House jokes are old.

Tech guys-I gotta believe you all are smart enough to come up with something else

then again…….

JacketonProbabtion

July 14th, 2011
2:22 pm

Ol Rueb played in 2007 though, didn’t he? The point is, when Dogs get arrested it is for “emerging from an alley” on a scooter or underage drinking.
At schools like tech it’s dealing enough Mary J to light up LaGrange; at Florida, it’s stealing a dead girls Visa and using it; at Auburn it’s gang-banging some poor kid and robbing them. At least Auburn’s AD made chizik “cut” those kids. Since Auburn lost it’s amateur status, Chizik has to make cuts, rather than Saban’s medical disqualifications.
You should absolutely make distinctions between these crimes. If you don’t, you’re probably a sociopath.

PerimeterCenterJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:22 pm

false, 1eyedJack, you beat us on BayBay’s dropped 4th down pass in 2009. It’s ironic.

JacketonProbabtion

July 14th, 2011
2:22 pm

And still #winning

Tech Class of 2013

July 14th, 2011
2:22 pm

WHEN AND WHERE IS THE TICKLE PILE FOR THE FIRST HOME GAME?

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:22 pm

” No one wants to face Tech with a decent defense”…………………Whew, you scared me there for a minute. Who’s coming back off last years unit to make that happen………and at 43 on rivals list in recruiting……Who’s coming in?

TheAntiMe

July 14th, 2011
2:23 pm

Buzz bee a yellow jacket. :D

GoldenRod

July 14th, 2011
2:23 pm

1eyedJack, you’re the kind of ignorant posting mutt that gives UGaG fans a bad name.

None of us GTU alums really, truly give a rat’s arse whether you leghumpers beat us in November.

Your team is 2 losses away from your missionary coach being fired anyway! Get back to the kitchen and make me some fries!

GT booster..

July 14th, 2011
2:23 pm

Guys….

Bradley is correct, no firing, no scholarship reductions & no Bowl ban…

Unfortunately, and due to lack of cooperation from the GTAA and that the actual violation occurred prior to the 2009 Ugag game, where of the 3 games in question 2 were losses.

The NCAA’s punishment will be forfeiture of the 2009 ACC Championship game. GT will be deemed to have lost due to playing 2 ineligible players… Clemson will be awarded the win & along with it the 2009 ACC Championship… Sorry, not a vacated win, but a forfeiture of the game…..

PerimeterCenterJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:25 pm

JB, there was a great article on Sugiura’s tech blog about it…right before this news broke. I’m glad you’ll be caught off guard by it actually. I like that the whole world uses the phrase “Tech doesn’t have the right personnel for the 3-4 yet.” It means they won’t see it coming.

Alan

July 14th, 2011
2:25 pm

Um Doug Roberson hasn’t covered tech in several months

Clemson Tiger

July 14th, 2011
2:25 pm

Enter your comments here

NCAA_Will_Drop_Ban_Hammer

July 14th, 2011
2:26 pm

If the Escalade rumors are true, that 2009 ACC title will definitely be in jeopardy.

Shame on Bay-Bey and Burnett!

PerimeterCenterJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:26 pm

GUYS, we freakin LOST to UGA in 2009! The win was in 2008 or is everyone THAT forgetful!!!? The win is preserved.

Clemson Tiger

July 14th, 2011
2:26 pm

WOOOOO-HOOOO!!!! WE ARE THE 2009 ACC CHAMPIONS!!!!

I cannot wait to watch my team play in the Orange Bowl.

Wait, what?!?!

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:27 pm

Today is a sad day for the Tweed Jacket set. The Real Tech Alum, who contribute to the success of this country…………………Tech folk on here are mostly under employed I assume.

I Hate Zach Klein

July 14th, 2011
2:28 pm

Why does he have to go and air our dirty laundry? No reason I DESPISE Twitter and Facebook.

Keep all the vacated wins up to the folks at that cesspool in Athens, Coach Paul Johnson runs a tight ship on the Flats!

PMC

July 14th, 2011
2:29 pm

Being holier than thou should be reserved for times when one isn’t in trouble.

The UGA vs GT and vise versa hate is kind of old and boring really. Two colleges occupy the same state…. ooooh lets hate each other.

Harvey D. Pooka

July 14th, 2011
2:29 pm

We go 125 + years with integrity in place, and then time and time again, “inquiries” arise. I hopd nobody is trying to make up for lost time. {Just need to emmulate the standards that Heisman, Alexander, and Dodd, and probably Curry and Fulcher; preahed and lived by,}

101 airborne

July 14th, 2011
2:30 pm

JB there were a lot more than 24,000 fans at the ACC championship game brother. I know you like living in that dream world where only in the SEC is “real” football and “real” fans but you’re wrong again as you are sooooo many other times. Get a life. Oh, and Georgia sucks, bad.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 14th, 2011
2:30 pm

Reggie Ball will have to return his Heisman.

TheAntiMe

July 14th, 2011
2:31 pm

“The win was in 2008″ – LMAO, you got that right – that was the one in 9 years! LMREO!

At the same time one of your other posters says that you alumni could care less about wins/losses against THE University of Georgia. Which is it?

Curious George

July 14th, 2011
2:32 pm

If Coach Mark Richt had both Reggie Bu$h and C@m Newton on his team in the same year, and the public later found out both players were ineligible for the duration of that year, would the NCAA still make Georgia vacate that season’s loss to Florida?

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:32 pm

I hope they don’t cut out the Fish fry’s. After losing to Georgia in 09, Johnson told the press they had bigger fish to fry. I guess we know what he really meant …………..And one year, you win and put the score nthe rings………..and the next year, losing to Georgia is no big deal??

GoldenRod

July 14th, 2011
2:33 pm

JoeSchad’s report is even worse than Zach Klein’s I wouldn’t go hating on Zach except he does host Bulldog Gameday which I find HIGHLY coincedental!

Outside Observer

July 14th, 2011
2:33 pm

GT Booster, I don’t think you can be correct. Similar to USC losing its title against Oklahoma and it not being awarded to them, Clemson can’t be awarded a championship they didn’t win. At worst, it would be a vacated championship that no one won.
JacketonProbation, since you decided to continue, I will leave one last comment for you. If Reuben played in 2007, it wasn’t at GT. Someone in the NFL might have given him a chance (the Bucs maybe?). Second, I won’t defend his actions as I think it is an incredibly dumb decision. However, if you want to claim UGA athletes have only been guilty of underage drinking and not sexual assault, leaving the scene of an accident, theft, etc all within the last few years, continue living in your bubble. Enjoy. To all other UGA fans, I promise, I have nothing against you or your team. It’s ignorant fools who live in a glass house that bother me. Tech isn’t perfect, neither is UGA. Denying that fact is foolish.

MarcWeiszer

July 14th, 2011
2:34 pm

Georgia Tech will vacate 2009 ACC title, source tells @CBSSports!

BOOOOOOOMMM!

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:35 pm

101 airborne…. I saw the shot from the air…………I’m not far off. And you are correct about one thing….We have sucked the last 2 years…………………But, you know we still managed to slip by the greatest football coach in America.

T3

July 14th, 2011
2:35 pm

So, lemme get this straight.

You’ve got essentially rogue programs like Oregon State, USC, Ohio State,
Auburn, Alabama, Miami and many others, violating WHOLE SECTIONS
of the NCAA rulebook and yet the NCAA struggles to find anything amiss.

Hell, it took the NCAA 4+ years to investigate USC, even after everyone in the
Greater Los Angeles metro area knew Reggie Bush and his family were getting
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in compensation.

And yet, of all the places in D-1 sports to look, Georgia Tech, with one of THE highest sets of academic standards and requirements for its athletes, SOMEHOW, finds itself under investigation by the NCAA.

UN–F******–BELIEVABLE.

TakeDown2009Banner

July 14th, 2011
2:36 pm

WGAS? We still beat UGaG in 2008! Roddy Jones is still running all up and down the field!

Leghumpers can’t even contend!

Sugar Hill Dawg

July 14th, 2011
2:37 pm

I’m late to this party – what did the Jackets allegedly do? If I have the facts straight, a watch and a t – shirt seem pretty insignificant to me. If Tech gets nailed for something this trivial, then THE Ohio State University should be required to play with no players on scholarships. (Given the general level of Big 10 (12ish?) pitifulness, they would still have a shot at the “Our Turn To Lose To An SEC Team” Division!) Also, can anyone head over to Athens and give some scooter riding lessons to the guys over there?

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:39 pm

Where is St.Simons?

Brett McMurphy

July 14th, 2011
2:39 pm

Some rumors on here about an Escalade, twitter world is a buzz (pardon the pun) with Joe Schad’s comments on the investigation.

Only confirmation thus far is Tech cheated and will accordingly vacate its 2009 ACC Championship.

ASG = JERKS

July 14th, 2011
2:41 pm

at the fish fry…”I have a very urgent message…CANNONBALL”

Reggie Ball

July 14th, 2011
2:42 pm

Georgia’s Georgia dog, they’re merely a speedbump.

As Coach Johnson said we got bigger fish to fry.

Bill

July 14th, 2011
2:42 pm

Anyone think CJ spiller never received any improper benefits that year? LOL

ASG = JERKS

July 14th, 2011
2:42 pm

Seriously, word on the street GTU is no longer 2009 ACC Champs.

Yup, it's official...

July 14th, 2011
2:44 pm

CBS Sports reports Georgia Tech will vacate 2009 ACC title:

Georgia Tech will also vacate other wins, besides the ACC title game, during the 2009 season, a source said.

Georgia Tech’s penalties include using ineligible student athletes during the 2009 season. Two of those student athletes involved are former wide receiver Demaryius Thomas and defensive back Morgan Burnett. Thomas was a first round pick in the 2010 NFL draft and Burnett was a third-round selection.

PAUL JOHNSON

July 14th, 2011
2:45 pm

OUR FOOTBALL PROGRAM IS GARBAGE ANYWAY, WHO CARES!

ASG = JERKS

July 14th, 2011
2:46 pm

Do that mean the DAWGS lose their ACC Championship too?

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:47 pm

I thought after that emotional night of Willie Martinez last Game at UGA and we ran pretty good on them and won, They would give us the trophy. We seem to have trouble winning the big one ( SEC) we;ll take the win over Tech’s best team in 20 years and proudly display the trophy in Athens.

the Truth

July 14th, 2011
2:47 pm

GT has got to come up with some “joke” majors to stick their football players in. Business Administration is the easiest major at GT and, while it is not really all that diffucult, it is many times harder that most jock majors at major college contenders.

DaboSwinney

July 14th, 2011
2:47 pm

Nah, ASG – the Dawgs and Cocks can retain their ACC Championship banners from 2009 for beating the Jackets and Tigers anyways.

GT booster..

July 14th, 2011
2:47 pm

Outside observer….

This not a Mythical National Championship awarded by the BCS Coalition (i.e. not sanctioned by the NCAA). This was an NCAA sanctioned conference championship game. The NCAA has every right (and prior precedence) to force GT to forfeit the game and award the 2009 ACC Championship to Clemson. It’s happened several times at various NCAA levels and in various NCAA sports….

really JB?

July 14th, 2011
2:48 pm

Guys, it’s simple why JB, Big Macon Dawg are on here: They loathe Tech. That’s all it is. They need some since of happiness because they love it when bad things happen to Tech, which is few and far between.

The Hive

July 14th, 2011
2:48 pm

Not happy about this. Not at all. I blame Chan Gailey! We won that ACC title fair & square.

NCAA is a joke

July 14th, 2011
2:49 pm

With all the nonsense and rumurs surrounding Auburn, Ohio State, etc in the last 18 months or so, I lost all respect for the NCAA as a governing body when I read that UGA got a slap on the wrist for the “missing man formation” during Isiah Crowells recruiting trip. I could not believe then and still cannot believe that that is the best way for these clowns to spend their time. Bring an whatever they have for Georgia Tech, I just consider the source.

Kevin McGuire

July 14th, 2011
2:50 pm

Good god, I hadn’t even read what Joe Schad tweeted. We’ll see what else comes out of this 3PM announcement!

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:51 pm

What about the Rings then?They are now phony. Boy, this ought to shut the holier than thou crowd down for a while at Tech. Did Johnson know this?

gdawginkalamazoo

July 14th, 2011
2:53 pm

Hire Jim Tressel, he now consults on these NCAA “thingys”. At least that’s what his business card calls them.

Max Cady

July 14th, 2011
2:53 pm

Who cares about stripping an old title? You live in the past, you die little each day.

http://i.imgur.com/JbC6J.jpg

Blazerdawg

July 14th, 2011
2:53 pm

For heavan’s sake, we do not even know what the allegations are yet. I hate it when either UGA or GT have a compliance or discipline issue because both schools are excellent, cooperative, and try to handle their business the right way; and the students in all of these programs are very dedicated. It is great to see some Jacket fans taken down a notch, but I hope that whatever the infraction is that it is minor.

Bill Curry

July 14th, 2011
2:54 pm

The NCAA has once again brought the cheaters to their knees.

RJ Voorhees

July 14th, 2011
2:55 pm

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:55 pm

No really JB…………….The real reason is the vile crap we read daily on our blogs about our University, Our coach, our players from the low life garbage nerds that troll our blogs ALL DAY LONG. The superior attitude. Well, guess what. Look in the mirror. Cheating at Tech.

workinDawg

July 14th, 2011
2:55 pm

Man, Tech even sux at cheating…LOL.

slydog

July 14th, 2011
2:55 pm

1. Once again: You cannot bring up Cam Newton’s name without bringing up Taylor Martinez. If you are a GA resident (or a native) and live in Atlanta, GET OVER IT and get behind Cam, except when playing the Falcons. How many thousands and thousands of college players, even golfers and vollyball players, have received pay for play? Would you refuse payment if it was your son? i suspect 5 out 100 would say no.

2. NCAA is a nice name for TV and marketing, to give the appearance that someone is governing collegiate athletics. They need to start at the top and then call Tech last.
a. Ohio State, b. Texas, c. Oregon, d. LSU, e. Michigan (again), f. Clemson, g. Auburn

David Shaw

July 14th, 2011
2:56 pm

Blzerdawg, the allegations are against Thomas and Burnett improperly receiving the use of a Cadillac Escalade, also minor infractions of receiving apparel and jewelry including Rolex watches.

This is THEIR fault and not the fault of the University.

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
2:57 pm

Just think. If the NCAA does this to Tech, then God only knows what will happen when they come hard for UGA. It’s gonna be a bad day.

headley lamar

July 14th, 2011
2:58 pm

Tech today.

Auburn tomorrow.

superDawg

July 14th, 2011
2:58 pm

10–9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2–1 BOOM!

SquirmingJacket

July 14th, 2011
2:59 pm

Does anybody have a link to the NCAA sanctions press conference? I gotta see if this stuff Joe Schad said is true!

big john 360 lbs

July 14th, 2011
2:59 pm

This is the first time Tech has made headlines in 2yrs. Way to go Jackets-not the way to steal the show.

superDawg

July 14th, 2011
2:59 pm

Hey macriod.

NCAA is a joke

July 14th, 2011
2:59 pm

Come what may, it’s still great to be a Yellow Jacket!!!!

JB

July 14th, 2011
2:59 pm

Ramblinwreck83…………….Just like a Techie to scream ” they do it to” As that cold, heavy,rusty prison door slams shut…LOL

headley lamar

July 14th, 2011
3:00 pm

Is the death penalty possible here???

This was serious before but now they are saying Tech didn’t cooperate

That makes it really really really serious.

NCAA tends to drop the hammer when that happens.

Ty

July 14th, 2011
3:02 pm

What did schad say?

THE Dixie Redcoat Band

July 14th, 2011
3:02 pm

If the NCAA can’t find anything on Auburn, then for sure gt is safe.

SquirmingJacket

July 14th, 2011
3:02 pm

Looks like NCAA may just drop the hammer after all since cheating involved not only football but basketball as well.

GOLDNWHITEFORLIFE

July 14th, 2011
3:03 pm

JB, that was actually funny lol. Kudos from a Techie

Brox

July 14th, 2011
3:03 pm

So what do I do with my Acc champ t shirt?

Jacket Man

July 14th, 2011
3:03 pm

•Public reprimand and censure.
•Four years of probation from July 14, 2011 through July 13, 2015. The public report further details the conditions of this probation.
•A $100,000 financial penalty.
•A reduction of two men’s basketball recruiting days during the 2011 summer evaluation period (self-imposed by the university).
•A limit of 10 official visits for men’s basketball for the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years.
•A vacation of all contests won by the football team during the 2009 season after November 24, which is when the university was alerted to the potential eligibility issues

Kev the GEEK

July 14th, 2011
3:03 pm

We’re so screwed! We only won six games last year, so we’re not giving up anything significant there. I think I kick my dog. Hold me Babsy, I’m gonna cry!

Josten's

July 14th, 2011
3:04 pm

Uh… for the last time Paul Johnson, NO! You cannot return the rings from 3 years ago.

JB

July 14th, 2011
3:04 pm

Have you ever heard Johnson at a press conference? Does it surprise anybody they didn’t cooperate?
He’s pretty much an arrogant pompous a$$…… probably told the NCAA he had bigger fish to fry I’m sure.

SquirmingJacket

July 14th, 2011
3:04 pm

BOOOM! The hammer has dropped. The report has been published and the sanctions have been leveled.

gdawginkalamazoo

July 14th, 2011
3:05 pm

Looks like Hines Ward will be dancing with Barney next. Learning those ABC’s.

uppity dawg

July 14th, 2011
3:05 pm

Sess Pool, learn to spell, and hurry up with those french fries.

Jacket Man

July 14th, 2011
3:05 pm

Specifically, the student-athlete received several items of clothing, valued at approximately $312, from a friend of a sports agency employee. Rather than declaring the student-athlete ineligible, the university allowed him to compete in the three final contests of the 2009-10 football season, including the conference championship game and bowl competition.

Note the player apparently dealt with a friend of the agent, and my understanding is the athlete has stated he didn’t know of the relationship.

$100,000 financial penalty?

July 14th, 2011
3:06 pm

Tech athletics are ALREADY in the red and bleeding out more money each and every day.

Ramblinwreck83

July 14th, 2011
3:06 pm

JB,

What i was saying is that if they will go after Tech, then don’t be suprised if they go after UGA. The NCAA has been on a head hunting campaign. UGA has been in the media alot the last two years. I’m just saying. No fact to support the claim, but I think alot of people including UGA fans were suprised the NCAA went after Tech. Most people had no idea.

Jacket Man

July 14th, 2011
3:06 pm

INDIANAPOLIS— The Georgia Institute of Technology committed violations in its football and men’s basketball programs, according to findings by the Division I Committee on Infractions. The university was cited for a lack of cooperation during the investigation, a failure to meet the conditions and obligations of membership, and preferential treatment violations. There were additional violations in the men’s basketball program related to rules stemming from a nonscholastic basketball tournament conducted on the university’s campus, which the public report further details.

Penalties include a $100,000 fine, recruiting restrictions, vacation of records and four years probation.

Citing the troubling nature of the case, the committee stated in its report, “This case provides a cautionary tale of conduct that member institutions should avoid while under investigation for violations of NCAA rules.”

According to the committee, the university’s failure to cooperate and meet the obligations of membership compounded the seriousness of the case by adding onto what was originally an isolated instance of impermissible benefits and preferential treatment.

Georgia Tech failed to cooperate and protect the integrity of the investigation when its staff members provided information to a football student-athlete regarding the scope of his upcoming interview, according to the committee findings. The university provided this information despite specific instructions by the enforcement staff, which the committee concluded impeded the investigation and hindered efforts to get to the truth in the case.

The committee noted that due to the NCAA’s lack of subpoena power, cooperation from schools and individuals is critical to ensuring complete information can be gathered and analyzed.

The university also failed to meet conditions and obligations of membership when it did not withhold another football student-athlete from competition after being made aware of information that raised serious questions about his eligibility. Specifically, the student-athlete received several items of clothing, valued at approximately $312, from a friend of a sports agency employee. Rather than declaring the student-athlete ineligible, the university allowed him to compete in the three final contests of the 2009-10 football season, including the conference championship game and bowl competition.

“It appeared to the committee that the institution attempted to manipulate the information surrounding potential violations involving (the student-athlete) so there would be enough doubt about its validity to justify the decision not to declare him ineligible,” the independent body stated in its report.

The committee also noted the university took these actions despite information reported by the student-athlete, another football student-athlete and an assistant football coach regarding the potential agent involvement in preferential treatment benefits. The university subsequently barred the agency employee, a former student-athlete, from the university’s training facilities and denied him access to complimentary tickets to athletic contests. However, it did not follow up on the information regarding the involvement of the agency employee with the football student-athlete.

When determining the appropriate penalties, the committee took into account the university’s repeat violator status. The penalties, some of which were self-imposed by the university and adopted by the committee, include:

•Public reprimand and censure.
•Four years of probation from July 14, 2011 through July 13, 2015. The public report further details the conditions of this probation.
•A $100,000 financial penalty.
•A reduction of two men’s basketball recruiting days during the 2011 summer evaluation period (self-imposed by the university).
•A limit of 10 official visits for men’s basketball for the 2011-12 and 2012-13 academic years.
•A vacation of all contests won by the football team during the 2009 season after November 24, which is when the university was alerted to the potential eligibility issues.
The members of the Division I Committee on Infractions who reviewed this case include Dennis Thomas, the commissioner of the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference and chair of the Committee on Infractions. Other members are Roscoe C. Howard, Jr., attorney; Thomas Yeager, commissioner of the Colonial Athletic Association; Greg Sankey, associate commissioner of compliance for the Southeastern Conference; Eleanor Myers, faculty athletics representative and law professor at Temple University; Melissa Conboy, deputy director of athletics at the University of Notre Dame; James O’Fallon, law professor and faculty athletics representative for the University of Oregon; and Britton Banowsky, commissioner of Conference USA.

Tech Fan Since 1950

July 14th, 2011
3:07 pm

Look, if we messed up in some way then we will need to take our punishment. Unless they close down the place, my wife and I will be at Bobby Dodd Stadium/Grant Field on September 1 where the atmosphere, with the Atlanta skyline, is the greatest in college football. The two of us can make more noise than all of you combined.

Tech is a great place, greater than most Georgians are even aware. BUT we are not mistake free. Also, I am not really pleased the way all of this is being announced today. First we hear there is a 10AM announcement and then a 3PM announcement and then a 4:30 PM reaction. Sounds on the surface that the NCAA and the Tech folks are not on the same “communications” page, and that may very well be what most of this is all about.

ToccoaDawg

July 14th, 2011
3:08 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA techies

Paul N Destin

July 14th, 2011
3:08 pm

Auburn will make SMU look like Happy Days cast. The player pool entering college football will ruin the sport within 5 more years. There is no coach that can control the character(lack of) of these folks. You see it 1st in sports just where the direction of the country is headed. At 60 I am glad I was able to be apart of the great years and I feel for you younguns in that what is ahead for college football. The NCAA will make a huge example of auburn and they must in order to get things back on track for a short period but in the end we drift to where so many schools will be like the bunch from the plains. The old banker, the yellafella and the old drunk coach are as low as you can get.

D-Rad

July 14th, 2011
3:09 pm

Let’s face it folks, we got off easy with the primary penalty being Public reprimand and censure. $100K ain’t nothing and Burnett and Bay-Bey are long gone.

Realist

July 14th, 2011
3:10 pm

How long until the BCS Schools tell the NCAA to pound sand and set up their own association? $312 results in a title being VACATED? I wouldn’t piss on the NCAA if it was on fire.

BTW, I don’t even have a dawg in this fight. I am a Seminole fan.

gtkenz

July 14th, 2011
3:10 pm

NCAA is a joke. When are these brainless idiots with no athletic ability going to back off? Do they really think any of this is isolated to a select few? That is insane. Every single school in every single sport, Juco, NAIA, D-2, D-3, etc. all break these ridiculous NCAA rules. Not one school is exempt, NOT ONE. And you can bet the house, the bigger schools with more success break the most rules. There is a certain percentage drawn to the campus, a certain amount that bond with the Coach(s), and a vast number that get paid in some form or fashion. It is inevitable and rich or poor makes no difference. It’s such a double standard. Gifts for bowls and unlimited sports attire from the school, but no money for a car or a date. Since when did the United States pass a law that forbids a property owner of any type of property from selling it or profiting in some way for transferring the property to another person? The NCAA is Un-American. They truly are the National Communist Against Athletes. THW-NCAA.

Golden Tornado

July 14th, 2011
3:11 pm

If GT gets sanctioned, I do not understand why no one will get fired.
We are supposed to be better than this.
In my mind, anyone remotely involved should be shown the door and then get kicked in the butt on their way out.

nerds are funny

July 14th, 2011
3:12 pm

me

July 14th, 2011
1:45 pm
You know your football program is a joke when you’ve lost 9 out of 10 to Mark Richt.

You know your footbal program is a joke when fans like this slam the team that has owned you since Jesus was a carpenter. Remember me, baseball season will start back up in March of 2012 and you will have hope again.

Is that Probation?

July 14th, 2011
3:13 pm

Or double secret probation? Either way it’s just a slap on the wrist.

As Reggie Ball said above, Georgia’s Georgia dog. Nothing but a speedbump.

workinDawg

July 14th, 2011
3:13 pm

The one thing Tech does well is play ineligible players. Well done guys!!

Paul

July 14th, 2011
3:14 pm

All I know is, if the NCAA did this to GTech for $312 in impermissible gifts, OH state is getting the death penalty.

jsmooth

July 14th, 2011
3:16 pm

Hey Sess Pool,

I would watch you words when you speak about a UGA degree as “Worthless.” Did you actually go to Tech as my father and brother did? If so, you missed out on the spelling and vocabulary class, Cess and not Sess. My son and daughter both go to UGA. My son is a Senior and will graduate in December. and already has many companies fighting over his services once January arises. He is on an internship this summer and believe me, that UGA diploma is worth the money I have paid. Get a life and stick to the topic of atheletics. Both schools are fine institutions of higher learning and have distinguished alumni’s all over the country and world.

DawginLex

July 14th, 2011
3:18 pm

Did you look at the names on the committee?

One from the SEC and 1 from Oregon???

Well, I guess crooks do know how to catch crooks the best

Coach Hewitt...

July 14th, 2011
3:18 pm

no Paul….

They did it because gt refused to sit a player after the NCAA warned them to…

headley lamar

July 14th, 2011
3:18 pm

$312 results in a title being VACATED?

It wasnt the 312$

It was the hiding it after they knew about it. Thats what the NCAA doesnt like.

gatorhater27

July 14th, 2011
3:19 pm

What’s with the extraneous apostrophe in the headline, Mark?

Barrack Hussein

July 14th, 2011
3:20 pm

We will hereby raise Georgia Tech’s debt ceiling to account for the $100,000 NCAA penalty and current $700,000 athletic deficit.

JB

July 14th, 2011
3:20 pm

Did Johnson know this and ALLOW the guys to play? I’m guessing not. I”m as hard as anyone cracking on Paul( Who all kidding aside, I think is a very good coach) But I really don’t think he would of allowed this.

GOLDNWHITEFORLIFE

July 14th, 2011
3:21 pm

The one thing Georgia players do well is go to Jail. Well done guys :)

Old Blind Dawg

July 14th, 2011
3:22 pm

Wow!

Based on this ruling Auburn, Oregon and OSU will get fined $100,000,000,000 – vacate every win since right after the civil war – be forced to play nekid and allowed to sign only Chinese players less than 5′ 6″ if everything we hear is true.

That NCAA group has grown some teeth.

NCAA is a joke

July 14th, 2011
3:23 pm

Well said Tech Fan Since 1950, can’t wait for September on the flats. Don’t see how anyone on here was saying the “death penalty” was possible. loss of the ACC Championship sux, but considering we were technically in violation, it’s appropriate. All of this over a couple hundred dollars worth of clothes. Don’t see how the “lack of cooperation” angle factors in, cooperating or not, we would have given up the ACCCG win either way.

George P. Burdell

July 14th, 2011
3:23 pm

What I would really like to know is why this is the first most of us have heard of this. Surely DRad knew we were being investigated and yet nothing was said. If that is the case, I’d love to hear an answer for why they didn’t give Tech fans a heads up about this.

High School Offense

July 14th, 2011
3:24 pm

CPJ is a genius, he doesn’t even carry notes on the sideline.

Run left, run right, run middle…..when all else fails, run right again..or middle, or left

The rest of us

July 14th, 2011
3:27 pm

Nice job, Scoop! Where were you in 2009?

Carlton

July 14th, 2011
3:28 pm

Who cares? Like Tech was ever relevant. This isn’t news, it’s a hilarious joke that adds salt to the wound of Georgia that is GA Tech in athletics. Demaryius Thomas? Apparently he can hold onto money better than he can catch a football..Go Dawgs!!

Top Dawg

July 14th, 2011
3:29 pm

Where did “Sess” Pool learn to spell? (See 1:56 p.m.)

Old Blind Dawg

July 14th, 2011
3:29 pm

Burdell I suspect the administration didn’t want to say a word because of the implications on recruiting – just a WAG.

Coach Hewitt...

July 14th, 2011
3:29 pm

AtlantaWolf

July 14th, 2011
3:30 pm

4 years probation- no scholarships lost- no post season ban- what a joke!

If you really want to get someone’s attention to stop breaking the rules, take away scholarships, ban post season games , and see how that hurts a program. Once you do that, it will make a big impact on a program and others will pay attention as well since it can really impact the program. that is the only way that the ncaa will stop all of the problems at so many schools

ToccoaDawg

July 14th, 2011
3:30 pm

where was the AJC during the investigation? not even a peep out of the AJC. yet if a uga player spits on the sidewalk its a major crime. WHERE WERE YOU AJC?

JB

July 14th, 2011
3:31 pm

I’m not sure any “serious” Tech boosters are happy today. I’ve had some fun on here today, but this is not funny. I’m also not naive enough to know that some Tech people hate Georgia so bad they wish we would get the death penalty. I can’t help them or their feelings. Tech is in Georgia. I’m in Business with a Tech Grad. I’m sorry about today. I am concerned, for ya’ll, not me, If Johnson Snubbed his nose at them and was hell bent on playing a player in question. If that’s the case, You have got the wrong man leading your program.

Coach Hewitt...

July 14th, 2011
3:31 pm

JoeSchaadJustTweeted

July 14th, 2011
3:32 pm

It was Demaryius Thomas that was Player #1, not Morgan Burnett. You folks owe Morgan an apology.

Coach Hewitt...

July 14th, 2011
3:32 pm

DC

July 14th, 2011
3:36 pm

you techies better take a picture b/c this is the last time JB will care about you guys haha :)

Matt from MN

July 14th, 2011
3:40 pm

WOW!! That’s gonna leave a mark!! Better be squeaky, squeaky clean from here on out.

Heath

July 14th, 2011
3:52 pm

“Excuse my schadenfreude, but Tech is so self righteous they make Barry Bonds look like Dale Murphy, babe.”
Dennis Miller

Dawg Trot

July 14th, 2011
4:12 pm

will paul johnson have to give back his fat bonus for the 2009 title that was stripped?

Columbus

July 14th, 2011
6:05 pm

Yep we bash Tech because they will NOT stay off UGA blogs. I guess it is the ONLY way to beat us up since it DEFINATELY will be at least 7 years before Tech has ANY chance on the field!

Columbus

July 14th, 2011
6:09 pm

Thank you Mark Richt for running a CLEAN program and not cheating like AU, UA, UT and GT……Win we win it all we will have not cloud over us. It will be LEGIT. Just like our last 2 conference championships under…Mark Richt. Before Richt we won an SEC championship in……1982! All you Richt haters are obviously……..MORONS. His 10 year record stands for itself and on its own and I challenge you to find better coaching records in the 10st 10 years of ANY head coach in the last 50 years…..Maybe 3? Maybe….

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just saying

July 15th, 2011
11:19 am

I’d say this is more embarassing for AJC sportswriters than GT. This was something done back in Nov 2009 and this is the first you people have heard about it? Some reporting that is.

From age 11, Demaryius Thomas was raised by cousins from home to home. Could any of you geniuses at this paper look into just what cousin gave him clothing? I certainly do not think the NCAA has their facts straight. What if a cousin lived in the same residence with Bay Bay?
What of it?

Family members are not allowed to give some kid clothes? Really?

Can you writers not look into this further or are you just going to sit back and do nothing like you always do?

Anna

July 15th, 2011
11:41 am

Buzz is a Yellow Jacket. Moron.

TechGuy

July 15th, 2011
1:15 pm

You UGA fans better quit shooting off your mouths about Tech! You should be tremblin’ in your dawghouses! OMG, wait until the NCAA starts sniffing around down there!

Buddy El (Dawg For Life)

July 20th, 2011
12:23 pm

Patience Aaron: The GT stuff happened in 2009. In 2009 nobody knew who Cam Newton was. His day will come.

Buddy El (Dawg For Life)

July 20th, 2011
12:36 pm

George P. Burdell: The NCAA instructed DRad not to tell anyone, not even CPJ because they were afraid CPJ might rehearse the players involved on how to respond to the NCAA questioning. Rad told CPJ anyway and apparently somebody handled the rehearsing. Who???? I don’t know.

Buddy El (Dawg For Life)

July 20th, 2011
12:45 pm

SESS POOLEin Athens: Friend you better stick with your “Alias” because if you need a doctor, dentist, surgeon, judge, attorney, etc.(UGA grads) Your chances of surviving will be slim to none. My first guess is you need a phycologist.