Trey Thompkins of UGA: His draft stock is getting, er, leaner

"So is Round 1 this way? Or is it that way?" (AJC photo by Jason Getz)

Trey Thompkins: "So is Round 1 this way? Or is it over there?" (AJC photo by Jason Getz)

For the past year or so, I’ve operated on the assumption that Trey Thompkins would be an NBA first-rounder if not a lottery pick. (Unless I miss my guess, Thompkins himself shared that belief.) But the Georgia Bulldog’s draft stock is, as we say on CNBC, trending downward.

Chad Ford of ESPN Insiders omits Thompkins from his latest Round 1 (link requires registration) — and doesn’t include him in his five near-misses, either. DraftExpress has Thompkins going 10th in Round 2 (meaning 40th overall) — four spots behind Iman Shumpert of Georgia Tech, whose draft profile has seemed iffy. NBAdraft.net shows Thompkins going 26th in Round 1 and Sam Amick of SI.com has him going 27th– but those mocks haven’t been updated since May 18, which is significant.

Thompkins took part in the NBA combine in Chicago last week, and he was measured as having 15.5 percent body fat. That’s a huge number for a center, which Thompkins isn’t, and an alarming one for a power forward. (Derrick Favors, also a power forward, had a body-fat index of 6.5 percent last spring.)

The belief here is that Thompkins was in shape only one of his three collegiate seasons. He was hurt in preseason as both a freshman and a junior, and both times his conditioning suffered. Not coincidentally, his best season came as a sophomore.

There now seems a chance that Thompkins will be drafted behind Travis Leslie, his Bulldog teammate of three seasons. DraftExpress has Leslie going with the 26th pick of Round 1; Amick of SI.com has him going with final pick of the first round, and Ford of ESPN lists Leslie as one of the first five picks of Round 2.

Leslie himself had a combine issue, sort of, by suggesting in a DraftExpress interview he was better than Tony Allen of the Memphis Grizzlies.

Responded Allen (he’s @aaOOOG9) via Twitter: “Who is this dude?”

By Mark Bradley

74 comments Add your comment

Y3ll0wjacket

May 25th, 2011
10:11 am

Great article, Mark. Always enjoy reading your take.

Denver Dawg

May 25th, 2011
10:12 am

too late to come back now, Trey…

Top Dawg

May 25th, 2011
10:12 am

Could it be?

Mark Bradley

May 25th, 2011
10:13 am

Thanks, Y3llOwjacket. And kudos for … well, you know.

Fixerito

May 25th, 2011
10:14 am

They’ll both be out of the NBA in less than 3 years. This is coming from a Dawg fan too. Pass the beer nuts…

me

May 25th, 2011
10:18 am

CANCER. The best thing for UGA hoops was Trey leaving. Buh Bye.

me

May 25th, 2011
10:22 am

And I love the pic Bradley. Trey ALWAYS blamed his teammates, ALWAYS. It was NEVER Trey’s fault. The kid has not one ounce of work ethic and you can blame the wonderful AAU circuit for filling this kids head with unrealistic expectations. Of course we all should have learned when Trey left Oak Hill his Junior year to come back home and play for …………….Wesleyan. Too much work at Oak Hill.

Kdawg

May 25th, 2011
10:28 am

My friends that are unabashed supporters of UGA Hoops had only praise for Trey during his playing days while I looked at him with a healthy dose of skeptisism. He was never in good shape for college let alone the NBA. His work ethic was non existent and he faltered badly his last two seasons. I was in shock to see so many people making Trey an automatic first round pick when he declared for this years draft. Apparently the NBA has caught on to his diminished physical skills and his lack of preperation. He’s going to rot on a NBA bench somewhere and be out of the league in 3 years tops. I hope Trey continues his education. He’s going to need it. The only thing stopping him from a lifetime of European League Basketball is a brief stay in the NBA D League.

Ted M

May 25th, 2011
10:29 am

amazing with all that money on the line he can’t get in shape. I think he may not get drafted at all.

kevin

May 25th, 2011
10:33 am

Ted M,

What money are you talking about?

me

May 25th, 2011
10:33 am

Fat, Drunk and Stupid is no way to go through life Trey.

DawginLex

May 25th, 2011
10:37 am

He has no excuse for not being in better shape. He is trying to become a pro basketball player. His injuries not withstanding, he should have worked harder to be in better shape.

Curiosity Killed the Cat

May 25th, 2011
10:38 am

Someone is giving these kids terrible advice. He has the skill to be a productive player in the LEAGUE but so does every other player that makes it. You have to have the drive and work ethic to go with it. Wish he and Leslie would have come back. UGA would have been a serious contender…

Mark Bradley

May 25th, 2011
10:40 am

Thompkins has great skills — he can shoot and pass — and great size, but he has to get in condition.

Curiosity Killed the Cat

May 25th, 2011
10:42 am

I agree MB, he has fanctastic touch around the glass and handles the ball pretty well for his size. You have to be in shape. The NBA is a fast-paced game.

Mark Bradley

May 25th, 2011
10:43 am

Georgia with Thompkins and Leslie in 2011-2012 would have been a Top 25 team, maybe a Top 15 team.

reality check

May 25th, 2011
10:48 am

Did Thompkins study another language in school? Can he sa “Europe”?

me

May 25th, 2011
10:55 am

Trey needed to go Mark. His teammates didn’t like him and he was becoming uncoachable.

James

May 25th, 2011
10:57 am

What kind of combine did Travis have besides the remark? I thought he needed another year at UGA but he’s a warrior and hopefully will be a draft sleeper.

GIVE ME A BREAK

May 25th, 2011
11:02 am

He couldn’t tie Derrick Rose’s shoes. No passion.

Mark Bradley

May 25th, 2011
11:05 am

According to the famous Andy Katz of ESPN, neither Thompkins nor Leslie was outstanding.

buh bye

May 25th, 2011
11:06 am

Trey was a cancer and I’m glad he’s gone. It’s hard to get in condition when you’re always out at the bars in Athens. I’ve seen this kid baked outta his mind in Athens more than I can count.

seanb

May 25th, 2011
11:08 am

He has a huge upside….. sort of plays like a Tim Duncan, NO I’m not comparing him to Duncan as a player but he has that calmness about him and some of the softest hands in college basketball. Unfortunately he has the lack of motivation thing going on! Trey was a bi-polar type of player where he could look like the best player in college hoops one night and then the next night he was trying to bring the ball up the floor and shoot 3 pointers! He needs to know his role better and get to work!! If he could just find that fire inside and let it burn he would have a chance but I just don’t think it’s there!

Not Don Waddell

May 25th, 2011
11:15 am

Tanner Smith singlehandedly won the state title game for Wesleyan when Trey was hurt. Dennis Felton should have offered Smith.

The really tough thing for these fringe 1st round guys is that the NBA is going to have a long, long layoff and anyone drafted outside the lottery will need to head out of the country to draw a paycheck.

As poorly as the NFL’s labor situation is going, at least most of the owners have billions of dollars and many of the labor force went to college, with many actually getting a degree.

The NBA owners are a rogue collection of nouveau-riche jock sniffers and con artists with little business savvy and the NBA players association is likely one of the most ignorant, least educated collections of people anywhere on earth.

Guys like Latrell Sprewell, JR Rider, Stephon Marbury, Kenny Anderson and Monta Ellis make up most of the voting union. Can you imagine trying to talk legitimate business with those guys and trying to get them to understand the economic benefits and ramifications of a labor agreement? It would literally be like trying to teach an Ethiopian farmer the value of Calculus.

Good luck to Trey, Travis and Iman. Trust me, living in Western Europe, making a couple hundred grand is not a bad deal.

still not sold on Fox

May 25th, 2011
11:17 am

He never wants to crash the boards or play defense. He’s a smart guy but a bit lazy. I think he’s used to people telling him what he wants to hear. I never understood why Fox couldn’t get him to step it up. Maybe Fox isn’t all that great at coaching guys up (he didn’t seem to help Leslie any either).

BulldogBen

May 25th, 2011
11:19 am

It’s a shame if that happens. They could’ve done something special this year at UGA. Hopefully Fox can sell this next crop of players on trying to do something really special.

As for Trey, I’ve seen him be the kind of dominant player a Top draft pick should be only once or twice. His game is pretty inconsistent and to be that big, his post moves are lacking. Wants to play facing the goal way too much and shoots too many threes. Granted if he’s hitting those he’s a force but we hear that all the time with players.

Hopefully this is all smoke and mirrors but I have to believe it’ll be devastating to him if he goes low 2nd round.

Mark Bradley

May 25th, 2011
11:19 am

I’d be surprised if the NBA has a long lockout.

Then again, I’m surprised the NFL is locked out.

LC Dawg

May 25th, 2011
11:21 am

WHO CARES????

They chose to leave UGA early.

Thank them both for their time here, and accomplishments they made as Dawgs, but any mishaps they see in their pro careers, I simply don’t care.

Just like Herschel Walker. Once he left early, I didn’t give a hoot about him as a pro.

what?

May 25th, 2011
11:23 am

Uh…GT BBall…have you seen the latest APR statistics?

Of course not. You’re a Tech fan and you don’t know how to speak intelligently about anything related to sports. Go back to playing video games and pretending that you’re smarter than everyone else.

GT BBall

May 25th, 2011
11:23 am

Another overrated, spoiled, out of shape, underachieving, non-graduating UGA athlete. Only it’s a BBall player instead of an FBall player this time. At least he has no arrest record. Get in shape kid; you can play at the next level.

Jeff

May 25th, 2011
11:25 am

Like so many of us, Trey will not be mature enough to take full advantage of his gifts until it’s too late.

McDawg

May 25th, 2011
11:27 am

i never saw him as a lottery pick-don’t know where that all came from-but lets not trash the kid

kinda of reminds me of danny manning

still not sold on Fox

May 25th, 2011
11:28 am

Well said Jeff. I wish I didn’t have the same problem when I was younger.

Frankly, I’m disappointed that Fox wasn’t able to get through to him (or Leslie).

McDawg

May 25th, 2011
11:29 am

he carried the team-i don’t see how anyonme can trash this kid because we didn’t make the final four

what?

May 25th, 2011
11:32 am

GT BBall,

You said he was another “non-graduating” UGA athlete. My point was that you shouldn’t be remarking about academics.

Thanks for reinforcing my stereotype of a GT fan who knows nothing about sports. I have zero respect for your opinion.

GT BBall

May 25th, 2011
11:33 am

@what? – what does APR statistics have to do with this discussion? Nothing, now go take your ADHD meds and keep reading blogging for dummies.

Buckeye

May 25th, 2011
11:37 am

Howard ( before I was Trey and before I was NBA) has always been soft sorry to say.

As s freshman in high school one thought he had time to develop his frame and would, in fact, develop his frame. Never happened to the extent required to man up in the NBA. He was most often the best player on the court. No longer.

Good luck, Kid. Look at Lebron and Kobe. They’re ripped. You are not.

McDawg

May 25th, 2011
11:37 am

actually fat drunk and lazy is exactly the MO of most NBA players-the pro game is a complete bore until the playoffs-how anyone can get excitied watching that crap after paying those prices is beyond me

The Real JC

May 25th, 2011
11:37 am

Wow, I’VE got 15.5 percent body fat. I’d also make about as much impact as Thompkins will in the league (which is to say not much).

McRib

May 25th, 2011
11:39 am

McDawg,

As bad as regular season NBA basketball is, regular season college basketball is 10 times worse.

Chunkynem

May 25th, 2011
11:40 am

Any chance the Hawks could get him in the second round?

Paddy

May 25th, 2011
11:47 am

Can’t believe a NBA team would risk a first round draft on any player who has not tried to get in shape for the biggest day of his life!! There must be alot more unspoken concerns that would alter any selection that high.

Victorious 1

May 25th, 2011
11:48 am

Mark – This is the ultimate feast or famine story, although I am leaning toward the latter. This kid could be a late-round “steal” ala Tom Brady in the NFL, if he gets chosen by the right team and falls under the tutelage of the right coach/trainer/GM combo that will not take his c__p and whip his buns into shape. Of course, the other extreme is the “out of the league” scenario everybody has already predicted. It’s a shame how such gifted young men read their own press clippings and listen to their personal cheerleaders who won’t be honest with them, right up until they squander their talent…

home cooking

May 25th, 2011
11:51 am

UGA fans kill me! you guys slam the guy once he leaves for what he wants in life once he can’t help your program.

Paul in RDU

May 25th, 2011
11:51 am

Mark – you say that Howard has great skills and great size but has to get in condition (aka work harder).
Sounds like a poor man’s Derrick Coleman to me.

Paul Mooney

May 25th, 2011
12:03 pm

Trey Thompkins is the illegitimate child of….Charles ” Can’t Talk Right” Barkley.

Mark Bradley

May 25th, 2011
12:21 pm

Let’s not get carried away: Talent-wise, Thompkins isn’t in Derrick Coleman’s class. Not many have ever been.

JayD

May 25th, 2011
12:30 pm

Trey will do fine – Don’t understand all of the hate (I’m not even a fan).

Lowcountry Bulldawg

May 25th, 2011
12:31 pm

What was Thompkins doin to get ready for the combine? College kids in Prep for the NFL go to Arizona to camps to train and work on agility, lower Fat index, and get stronger. College kids have the same opportunity but what happened? That is the real story. Why did he not show better?

Najeh Davenpoop

May 25th, 2011
12:31 pm

Mark Bradley’s colon-in-the-headline percentage continues to rise.

In this weak draft the #35 pick is about as likely to become an All Star as the #5 pick. If Thompkins lands in the right situation he’ll be fine.