Hope for Auburn? Toxic trustee Bobby Lowder steps aside
On the left, Bobby Lowder. On the right, former Alabama governor Don Siegelman. (AP photo)
Yet another big story breaks over the Loveliest Village of the Plains, and this one has the feel of a new dawn rising. The toxic Bobby Lowder has decided not to seek another term on Auburn’s board of trustees. The first two words of an editorial in the Opelika-Auburn News were these:
“Good riddance.”
It was hard to know exactly how much power Lowder wielded over Auburn athletics because his modus operandi was to be seen but never heard. I once asked another SEC athletic director if some booster could be classified as his school’s Bobby Lowder, and the AD thought for several moments. Then he said: “I’m not sure anyone else has a Bobby Lowder.”
Conventional wisdom holds that Lowder, an Auburn grad who came to power as head of the Montgomery-based Colonial BancGroup (seized by the Feds in 2009), essentially fired Terry Bowden as football coach in the middle of the 1998 season and almost fired Tommy Tuberville five years later. It was a plane owned by Lowder’s bank that made the infamous flight to Sellersburg, Ind., carrying Auburn officials to interview then-Louisville coach Bobby Petrino — for a job that was technically not open.
Auburn president William Walker and athletic director David Housel, both of whom were aboard the plane, wound up resigning. Lowder, however, was immovable. He’d become a trustee in 1983, but his influence was mighty long before that. He was considered Auburn’s biggest donor and its de facto CEO. (Here’s an ESPN story on Lowder from 2006, written by esteemed former colleague Mike Fish.)
In January the New York Times quoted former AD Mike Lude on Lowder thusly: “I would describe him as a person who is very quiet, very much behind the scenes, yet very much involved. My wife one time said, ‘You know, Mike, Bobby Lowder really acts like the Auburn Tigers are his professional football franchise.’ ”
Lowder wouldn’t talk to the Times for that story. Lowder never talked to anybody. When the Auburn Plainsman, the student newspaper, was critical of Lowder, it wound up being subjected to what Jennifer Foster of the Opelika-Auburn News calls a “retaliatory restructure.” In 2004, Auburn nearly lost its accreditation as a university — this time its probation was levied not by the NCAA but by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools — due to meddling by its trustees.
Even the most rabid Auburn fans could never endorse Lowder. Why would one man want so much power? Why were so many afraid of him? Indeed, Lowder’s latest appointment to the board of trustees prompted a lawsuit and led Foster to wonder in print if Gov. Robert Bentley’s decision to reappoint Lowder had anything to do with a campaign contribution of $25,000 made by Lowder’s wife.
But now the man behind the curtain is gone, or at least going. (Lowder’s term expires next year.) He’ll leave having finally seen his Tigers win a national championship, but it was a championship accompanied by more skepticism than any in history. Much of that had to do with Cam Newton’s father, yes, but much could be traced to the knowledge that Auburn was, and had long been, Bobby Lowder’s team.
By Mark Bradley
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Paul H
May 18th, 2011
11:15 am
FIRST
Paul H
May 18th, 2011
11:18 am
How will Auburn get their next Cam Newton without Lowder?
PMC
May 18th, 2011
11:18 am
Ahem… Phil Knight….T Boone Pickens etc.
Mark Bradley
May 18th, 2011
11:23 am
Kudos, Paul H.
UGA
May 18th, 2011
11:26 am
sandbagger
1eyedJack
May 18th, 2011
11:26 am
He can still give $1000 dollar handshakes.
Paul N Destin
May 18th, 2011
11:28 am
This story is going to get big. Start the popcorn. The NCAA is going to takeout Auburn and the fact the banker quit will not help them one bit. The only way Auburn could compete was to buy players and that is documented before this year folks. The banker, the woodman and the old drunk coach understood they had to cheat otherwise they were Kentucky in blue and orange. The SEC is about to take a hit but in the end all of the SEC schools and many of the ACC schools will be so much better off due to the trash will be removed from our great game. They will need a dumpster to remove the trash fromt that school and the large version as well.
juvenal
May 18th, 2011
11:29 am
any body similar at other schools around here?
Mark Bradley
May 18th, 2011
11:31 am
I go back to what the AD of an SEC school told me, juvenal: Nobody else had a Bobby Lowder.
nemov
May 18th, 2011
11:32 am
With Auburn’s long history of cheating I’m sure they’ll find an adequate replacement.
DawginLex
May 18th, 2011
11:35 am
Beginning of the end?
We can only hope that Auburn, Cecil and Cam all get exposed.
Enjoy!!!
Perfect
May 18th, 2011
11:37 am
I can give you 180,000 reasons why Lowder is now free of his responsibilities. No longer harnessed by his position, the checkbook will be open even wider now.
#1bamafan
May 18th, 2011
11:42 am
Bobby Lowder controlled the Board by making loans and doing favors to the other members and that is how he maintained control. Alot of the same people lost money (and faith) in Lowder after the Colonial fiasco. His time had ran out, I assure you he would not give up the power if he did not have to. Ready for football…RTR
Bryan G.
May 18th, 2011
11:45 am
Now if UGA can only get rid of Don Leebern….
Mr. Obvious
May 18th, 2011
11:51 am
The unscrupulous, dishonest, cheating people running and “boosting” Auburn University look like saints compared to the members of ATLANTA SPIRIT GROUP.
Red Blk Dawgs8034
May 18th, 2011
11:54 am
Who will Auburn use now to fund payments to players? Everyone can pretty much believe Lowder was the main bank role in payments to athletes!
sogadog
May 18th, 2011
11:57 am
I suspect the root of Lowder’s departure lies in the failure of his bank. His wealth was probably derived from the his bank stock which is now worthless. Money created the power he wielded and I bet the money is gone or greatly depleted. Auburn will be much better off in the long run if they will install a mechanism to prevent other Bobby Lowders from stepping up. One man should not have that much control over a public institution.
mexdawg
May 18th, 2011
11:59 am
Paul N Destin your right.Auburn is making this move trying to appease the NCAA but it won’t work.Too little too late.Perfect is right to about the 180,000 rea$ons why he is no longer going to be on the board.This will all come out over time.If I were Auburn I wouldn’t put up that statute of Cam just yet.
Just Me
May 18th, 2011
12:01 pm
Can we hope the Leeburn will do the same over at UGA?
Mark Bradley
May 18th, 2011
12:03 pm
I don’t know that Auburn had anything to do with this. Lowder had already been re-appointed to the board.
Shug
May 18th, 2011
12:08 pm
Thing is, Mr. Lowder is probably the cleanest person associated with Auburn athletics.
Herschel Talker
May 18th, 2011
12:08 pm
MB:
Forget Auburn. I am still waiting for you to write an article saying that Mark Richt should be fired.
Are you going to wait until the Bulldogs lose to USC to write it?
HT
Dr. Phil
May 18th, 2011
12:16 pm
Lowder ran Auburn with an iron fist for over 30 years. Pat Dye’s pay for play policy can be linked directly to Lowder as can the Bowden problems of the 90’s, the Petrino issue, and the departure of Tommy Tubberville. Tubberville was never a Lowder surrogate, and I believe that Tubby tried to run a clean program. In addition to the football program, Lowder ran roughshod over academics, selecting deans, presidents, and tinkering with and eliminating academic programs that Lowder felt were useless, such as music and art. It will take years and maybe probation for Auburn to recover from Lowder’s toxic influence. And, yes, Leebern is the poor man’s Bobby Lowder.
TexasPeach
May 18th, 2011
12:18 pm
You GA dawgs are still hating on AU for spanking that butt!!!! Stop hating and get on with your lives!!!!!!
WDE
May 18th, 2011
12:20 pm
Wait a second….I need to get some popcorn this ought to get good.
Old Dawg
May 18th, 2011
12:21 pm
Everyone I know who is associated with Auburn hates Bobby Lowder. Like any kingpin, he is known for his ruthless behavior and lack of developing a consensus from people he works with.
The midnight flight to talk to Petrino is one of the most unethical events in college athletic history. I’m sure similar incidents have occurred at other schools, but Auburn seems to wallow in them.
Perhaps with the fall of Lowder’s bank life on the Plains will resort to a somewhat normal existence.
404
May 18th, 2011
12:22 pm
Auburn is in DEEP DEEP trouble, and the Trustees know it.
Thats why Auburn is desparately trying to separate itself from Lowder.
Why? And better yet, Why Now??
Because the folks at Auburn KNOW the NCAA is on its way.
They know the NCAA is going to blast Auburn.
When the NCAA gets thru trashing Ohio State, theyll turn their teeth on Auburn.
And thats going to open the door to a far-ranging review of the entire SEC
If the NCAA is willing to throw Ohio State and Jim Tressel under the bus,
SEC fans everywhere should be very afraid of what the NCAA is going to do the SEC.
That will open the door for the NCAA to put the grey-shirting and over-signing
and a whole list of other issues on the table.
And I dont think the NCAA is going to stand any longer for the numerous methods
of cheating and fraud that is so pervasive and well-established in the SEC.
Auburn is in SERIOUS trouble. And soon, the entire SEC will be also.
SSIgator
May 18th, 2011
12:30 pm
“I’m not sure anywhere else has a Bobby Lowder.”
Maybe not, but UGA has the next best thing – Mark Richt. Mr. Smoke and Mirrors – I know what the hell I am doing – Because I have been studying cutting edge football since January – head football coach. The original $3,000,000 Con Artist. Yet the UGA KoolAid machine keeps humming along.
al.com
May 18th, 2011
12:33 pm
I love all the BS coming from the clowns on here that know nothing about what is going on at Auburn. It is simply laughable. Let me guess you all were stupid enough to vote for YES Can obama. Now I know why 1 in 6 of americans are on food stamps.
Hollywould
May 18th, 2011
12:35 pm
Still the Champs!! Whoops, Newton just ran over Rambo again. pups just mad another player is leavin. War Eagle
Footballrules
May 18th, 2011
12:46 pm
al.com: At least “Yes Can” got Bin Laden, and didn’t borrow BILLIONS from Red China to invade (with conventional troops….gad) the wrong country, costing hundreds of thousands of lives. As to Auburn, they will eventually get the hammer, along with UNC and Ohio State.
Tim
May 18th, 2011
12:46 pm
UGA fans can only hope regent Don Leebern will be the next to go!
Dumb Dawgs
May 18th, 2011
12:50 pm
So when is Auburn going on probation, mutts?
Herschel Talker
May 18th, 2011
12:52 pm
Wish Tech would wake-up and cut Paul Johnson loose!
Whisky Breath
May 18th, 2011
12:54 pm
I don’t like him or Auburn. However, the success Auburn has enjoyed over the last 30 years has been primarily because of Bobby. Nobody crosses Bobby and gets away with it.
Red Blk Dawgs8034
May 18th, 2011
12:55 pm
Well al.com enlighten us on your take of the whole Auburn situation since we know nothing!!! As for Yes can Obama, He has been no better than W. Obama gave billons away to companies like GM, AIG, Merrill Lynch who in turn gave the $ to their top executives as bonuses.
George G.
May 18th, 2011
12:58 pm
No, the NCAA isn’t going to hammer Auburn. Auburn University hasn’t even received an LOI. The NCAA has stated on numerous occasions that nobody at Auburn could be connected to Cecil Newton’s conversation with Mississippi State boosters (who then told other boosters…but that’s a different problem) about money. The HBO stories are just that…stories. Stories with no names attached, no less. Those of you that are waiting for the NCAA to drop the hammer on Auburn are going to be waiting a long time, because facts of both cases suggest that it won’t happen.
But Internet mythology is more fun, so keep bangin’ that drum. You’ll be the one looking ridiculous in the end though.
Ted M
May 18th, 2011
1:02 pm
Is the NCAA still investigating the Auburn/Newton thing?
2010 Fulmer Cup Champs
May 18th, 2011
1:08 pm
404
Earlier today, on another blog, you made the same statements about Auburn. Where did you get your info because I haven’t read one single article that states that Auburn will get hammered by the NCAA.
Remember Gump, that Auburn hasn’t been accused of any wrongdoing by the NCAA.
2010 Fulmer Cup Champs
May 18th, 2011
1:13 pm
George G.
That won’t stop the losing UGA fan base from talking about it. Most of these fans, not grads, think that TigerDroppings is a real news site.
Good luck in 2011, 6-7ers.
George G.
May 18th, 2011
1:14 pm
Ted M –
The Newton investigation (which was never official), is stalled, and there’s no sign that it will ever go anywhere. It remains technically “open” because the NCAA is investigating the role of recruiting agents during the recruiting process (Kenny Rogers, Will Lyles, etc.).
AlUm 04
May 18th, 2011
1:16 pm
I remember when I was a freshman at Auburn, the students staged a walk-out to protest Lowder and held a rally at the state capital. Strangely, all my classes with attendance requirements were cancelled that day.
I’m not sure how much pull Lowder will have going forward. He lost nearly $156 million when his bank failed.
Mark, you failed to mention that Mr. Lowder and the other execs of Colonial are under investigation for misappropriation of TARP money. Think that investigation had anything to do with his decision?
THE MAJOR
May 18th, 2011
1:16 pm
ENVY the official sign of the Georgia Bulldog fans. You don;t think UGA has a guy like this… How dumb are you BRADLEY and UGA followers…..try Don Leeburn. He is just as much involved in UGA athletics as Lowder at Auburn.
NCAA at Auburn, hell they are more involved in UGA football at the moment than Auburn.
LOSERS ALWAYS COMPLAIN THAT WINNERS CHEAT!!!!!!!!!!!
VININGSDAWG
May 18th, 2011
1:22 pm
We have serious idiots on this board. The NCAA is not coming after Auburn as all of you wish. Tennessee is in serious trouble not Auburn. Remember all the crap thrown at the Auburn wall and nothing sticks and my good friends in compliance tell me that there is nothing out there on Auburn. When have to compete with a corrupt organization like the Red Elephant Club in your backyard you have to keep your nose clean because they will do everything hurt you. Now that CMR has spoken out against Saban watch things start to trickle out. There is already a story brewing in Columbus regarding Crowell and police problems.
82Dawg
May 18th, 2011
1:31 pm
HT…Bradley will write the article about the same time you stop with all of the fire CMR bull. See that now you are getting on Paul Johnson..maybe you need to find a new State to live in….like Idaho.
Notamutt
May 18th, 2011
1:41 pm
Viningsdawg: Crowell is one heck of an athlete. You can’t say enough about his potential, but I have been wondering from all the Facebook pix and noise, is he going to be one of the same we have just seen in Athens to the other backfield members.
SEC fan
May 18th, 2011
1:53 pm
Auburn has nothing to worry about. The NCAA enforcement folks are totally gutless. Unless someone at AU admits a wrongdoing, nothing will happen. The SEC office has a primary concern with any SEC coach being critical of the SEC and/or its enforcement/compliance group. Heavy penalties if any school official criticizes anyone in the SEC. Other than that, oversigning/pay for play/etc is all okay as long as the school is bringing in money for the SEC. For the NCAA compliance folks, they totally believe anyone who says “I didn’t know”. Any form of denial of a violation is viewed as a way of slithering out of levying a heavy punishment. At OSU, kids who had nothing driving around in new cars and ‘no one knew’ anything was wrong. You watch, the NCAA will absolutely buy that story as it is a gutless way to avoid dropping the hammer.
WDE
May 18th, 2011
1:58 pm
Yeppers I was right it has gotten good….but there isn’t quite as much venom from the Auburn fans as I thought there would be…but its still early. Bye the way I think its time to move on folks until and IF any formal charges are made against Auburn.
CJ
May 18th, 2011
2:00 pm
al.com
is the reason I read this blog, hilarious!
Auburn Grad 87
May 18th, 2011
2:08 pm
I always thought Lowder’s contributions to the school were generous.
He obviously cared a great deal about the institution to donate his time and money.
Let’s give the guy a break.
RAMBLE ON!!!
May 18th, 2011
2:10 pm
Funny, UGAg calling Awbarn cheaters.
Hello pot, meet kettle.
polskidawg
May 18th, 2011
2:12 pm
I worked with Colonial for 6 years, and during that time I met Mr. Lowder about 2-3 times a year. We never discussed football, nor Auburn University, but he was always very pleasant and a man of few words.
However, in response to Mark question, “Why would one man want so much power? Why were so many afraid of him?” I can suggest this: The man was 110 lbs soaking wet and about 5′6″ tall.
Are you familiar with the Napoleonic Complex?
404
May 18th, 2011
2:12 pm
Clealry theres a lot of folks that dont realize how serious it is at Auburn.
When the Auburn Board of Trustees tells its #1 Multi-Multi-Millionaire Contributor
of many years to take a hike, it can only mean bad things are coming.
It means the Board has realized that the trouble they are now facing
is significantly worse than the value of all the money he can contribute.
Lowder didnt quit. He was TOLD to quit.
Auburn is DESPARATE to separate themselves from Lowder before
the NCAA comes to town to try minimize the damage.
Dont kid yourselves, Auburn is in DEEP DEEP trouble.
This has already been written about:
The Chief Financial Officer from Cecil Newton’s Newnan, GA church, Bobbie Blandburg, has already been quoted in the New York Times, that she has no freakin idea where $60,000+ in cash came from
to pay for the repairs to the church.
It appears only one person knows: Cecil Newton.
And the contractors that did the work were paid IN CASH for the repairs.
As written before, Money always leaves a trail.
And that trail will eventually lead back to Auburn and/or its boosters.
Perhaps back to one particular booster.
I still believe that the NCAA will use its investigation of Auburn to pull back
the curtain of systemic corruption on the entire SEC.
Theres no way the NCAA is going to continue to allow grey-shirting,
over-signing and many other nefarious methods of cheating used by the SEC.
Go ahead and put it on the calendar: the NCAA will arrive in Auburn by September 1, 2011.
Auburn’s and the SEC’s troubles are just beginning.
WDE
May 18th, 2011
2:13 pm
RAMBLE ON!!! really Bug we don’t have to cheat to beat the Bugs…showing up works just fine.
Auburn University Administrators
May 18th, 2011
2:21 pm
NCAA Investigation? We don’t care about no stinking NCAA audit! If they mess with us, we’ll just join the NFL.
2010 Fulmer Cup Champs
May 18th, 2011
2:24 pm
So when is Auburn going on probation, 404?
Auburn Fans are horrible.
May 18th, 2011
2:29 pm
Fulmer Cup Champ 2010 = WDE
Fulmer Cup Champions 2011--Auburn Tigers
May 18th, 2011
2:30 pm
Oh yeah…Auburn fans it is always a positive signal when you single biggest donor is voted off of the board of trustees. This is a really good thing right?
Next thing you know you will be trying to convince me that a lack of evidence proving some wrong doing is the same as being innocent and that Nick Fairley played by the rules–oh wait. Damn.
Let He Who Is Without Sin...
May 18th, 2011
2:34 pm
You Leghumpers and Bammers throwing stones at Auburn is the ULTIMATE example of a POT calling a kettle BLACK…the WORST comments I read about ANY SEC team are always on the comments to one of the AJC blogs like this one when Auburn is written about…thanks to the internet for helping ruin ANY last vestige of sportsmanship in College Football, especially in the SEC…God Knows it has helped ruin UGA-AU…with Auburn-AL, it may have taken a poisoned tree and a killer tornado to chill folks out…yet, we are all so hooked, we will keep watching and posting and agonizing over a corrupt, dirty game…keep those comments coming, folks!
Fulmer Cup Champions 2011--Auburn Tigers
May 18th, 2011
2:36 pm
Let He Who Is Without Sin…apparently you have not been on a UGA blog recently. Your Auburn Fan bretheren ruin the blog every single day(with help from a couple of tech idiots) with their smack talk.
To say that Auburn ‘has it coming’ on this blog and the NCAA Investigation is an understatement.
Grad 89
May 18th, 2011
2:42 pm
There is no need to point fingers here and certainly not call us Kentucky in orange and blue…. Every SEC school has connections, our connections are simply not as good at hiding the obvious it seems… Whenever there is a rise in power, the NCAA comes a hunting and there are oh so proud lesser schools waiting to point fingers and dig up the dirt… I seem to remember a guy named Reggie Bush that had the same talent as a Cam Newton…. I just hope that Cam takes lots of pictures while he has the trophy….
WDE 86-87
May 18th, 2011
2:49 pm
if you think for one minute that payment of athletes at big schools isn’t rampant at every school, you obviously never played sports in college, never went to college, or live under a rock! how do you think the same programs are successful each and every year?
Really UGA fans
May 18th, 2011
2:51 pm
Guess you still cant get over that beat down can you? Just come on here and talk about how Auburn is going down blah blah blah… Bottom Line is you don’t have any idea what the NCAA is doing. You have no idea whether Auburn cheated or not. You just want Auburn to get the title taken away because you are the only one left of the big six that doesn’t have a crystal football. As long as Richt is there you want get one either. Stop your whining
Greg
May 18th, 2011
2:53 pm
The only time Auburn has ever been worth a damn at anything has been a direct result of cheating. This time will be no different than the others…the penalties will come, but Auburn fans don’t care. They got a championship, no matter how tainted.
Congrats on finally beating UGA again…thanks to renting your two best players for one year. It was worth whatever it cost, right? Somebody tell me about that Auburn creed again…something about honesty. That is truly hilarious.
UGA Insider
May 18th, 2011
2:55 pm
The Summer of Scandal in the SEC is about to heat up!
Bill
May 18th, 2011
2:56 pm
Bobby Lowder was always the most prepared trustee at their board meetings, asking the most intelligent questions and making the wisest suggests. He and his familly haave given Auburn University severall million dollars.
I think most of the comments made here have been made by people who couldn’t hold a candle to what Lowder has meant to Auburn. He deserves a much better send off . . .
George G.
May 18th, 2011
2:56 pm
404 –
You simply don’t know what you are talking about. Thayer Evans (of all people) wrote in January that the contractors HAVEN’T been paid by Cecil Newton, and don’t expect to be. They are quoted as saying that Cecil Newton gave of the impression of a guy that DIDN’T have money, and wasn’t going to pay. The church isn’t New Birth. It’s essentially an airplane hangar. As of late January, the only repairs made to it were to prevent it from being condemned, AND IT DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
The mis-information passed around in the Cecil Newton case is absolutely mind-boggling. Facts suggest that Auburn did nothing wrong, only that Mississippi State may be in some trouble. But never let facts get in the way of a good story, right 404?
trupert
May 18th, 2011
2:56 pm
Wow, Bobby lowder has decided to step aside?
This can’t be good for Auburn in the short turm because it’s a sign that his cheating ways have either been uncovered by the NCAA or they are getting too close.
Funny thing is that, Lowder is the one who suggested that Pat Dye needed to step aside when his cheating ways, which were at the direction of Lowder were found out.
I wonder what Auburn will name after Bobby lowder. For Dye it was the football field and for Jordan it was the stadium. Auburn has an established history for dedicating monuments too their most successful cheaters, so , it will be intersting to see what Lowder get’s his name on.
My advice to Auburn fans. This is the perfect opportunity for the fans and alumni to push for total reform of the Auburn foot ball program. It’s high time to clean the program up. 50+ years of paying players has made Auburn’s program a total disgrace.
UGA Insider
May 18th, 2011
2:57 pm
Let us not forget there on ongoing open investigations currently at: LSU, ALABAMA, UT and yes….AUBURN!
Greg
May 18th, 2011
3:00 pm
WDE, yeah, everybody does it. The Cam Newton story is repeated hundreds of times every year…it’s just that everybody hates The Barn. Keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better.
What SMU did in the early 80’s is nothing compared to Auburn. Auburn and Lowder have been doing it for nearly 4 decades.
Will
May 18th, 2011
3:07 pm
I saw where Michael Dyer is going to be a witness against the Auburn 4… I swear you can’t make this stuff up what goes on over there.
Delbert D.
May 18th, 2011
3:09 pm
What a creepy guy.
Hollywould
May 18th, 2011
3:14 pm
Keep hatin folks. I am wearing my championship hat. When u pups win one let me know.
AlabamaSweet
May 18th, 2011
3:15 pm
You don’t seriously believe that just because Lowder is “officially” gone from Auburn that the money, the deals, and the handshakes will end, do you? Lowder is more free now than ever to dirty the water. If the NCAA has an ounce of integrity Auburn’s “success” will be exposed…Lowder will never answer for any of it.
Harvey Updyke Jr.
May 18th, 2011
3:15 pm
He’s innocent!
Harvey Updyke Jr.
May 18th, 2011
3:16 pm
Enter your comments here
SteelWorker69
May 18th, 2011
3:25 pm
Paul N Destin, Layoff the Crack Pipe. If you don’t believe that $1000.00 handshakes don’t happen everywhere then you need to go smell more unicorn farts! The best thing that could have happened was that the Banker left, now we can get down to some real smash mouth football. Hold on to your crystal football boys it’s about to get good! Don’t worry about AUBURN, the NCAA can look all they want, nothing to hide when you’ve done nothing wrong. I guess Haters will always be Haters
JD
May 18th, 2011
3:26 pm
Auburn going on probation? Auburn has not even received a letter from the NCAA… where do u leg humpers get your facts?
Lowder got voted off? do u idiots even read?
another BADLEY written article by the UGA blogger Mark Badley
Gay Dawg
May 18th, 2011
3:27 pm
Lowder was cute!
Paul N Destin
May 18th, 2011
3:29 pm
Lowder was just the money trying to correct the auburn inferiority complex. Coach Bryant placed the awful complex on the Tigers and as of today they’re still trying to be something other than just good old Auburn as Coach Bryant called them. Jimmy Rayne will be the man now to run the show. You do understand that the woodman made a 6 million dollar phone call to Houston Nutt to offer the Auburn job (Tubbs still the coach) on Sunday following the 2008 Bama vs Auburn game??? Do you know of any other BOT members that would void a contract because his team (walkon jock sniffer at Auburn was Rayne) got their azz beat 36-0 knowing it would cost him 6 million before sundown?? If you think buying players with front pocket money is a problem for Auburn then you don’t understand the banker, the woodman nor the old drunk coach. The only way Auburn can compete is to buy elite players and they do and have since the old drunk coach came to the plains. How many schools do you know that still have former coaches from the 80/90’s still on the payroll just to keep it down home cuz! The Auburn Creed….”does anyone know you’re at the bank”…Pat Dye
Harvey Updyke Jr.
May 18th, 2011
3:30 pm
Who hates Auburn?
Big Macon Dawgs
May 18th, 2011
3:38 pm
Anyone who believes you can take two loser coaches like Chizik and Ted (Leaky) Roof and have the success All-Barn has had without major cheating is kidding themselves.
Tubs and Tatter Tott were trying to clean up the program, or at least make it somewhat respectable. It’s what got them fired.
Chizik was desperate, and malleable to Auburns sleazy ways. Got him hired.
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
3:40 pm
Inferiority complex Macon??? You guys had a block party after scoring a TD against UF. We have a national title and are 8-3 versus bama in the 2000s. Almost as good the previous 20 years. I think you should look at a mirror. LOL!
AUNANA
May 18th, 2011
3:41 pm
Good-bye Bobby, and don’t let the door hit your behind on the way out!
2010 Fulmer Cup Champs
May 18th, 2011
3:43 pm
“Anyone who believes you can take two loser coaches like Chizik ”
Chizik has been a part of 3 undefeated teams. Chizik has a national championship under his belt.
Mark Richt, not so much.
Big Macon Dawgs
May 18th, 2011
3:44 pm
All I’m saying is NO-ONE with the IQ of green bean fires a HC like Tubs for a coach with a 5-17 record on the up and up.
That video of the Auburn fan heckling Jay Jacobs on You Tube is PRICELESS!
gdawginkalamazoo
May 18th, 2011
3:44 pm
I heard a raiod ad from a Jim Tressel dealership the other day, went something like this:
Come on down to Jim Tressel Cadillac! Home of the Silver & Scarlett Escalades with 22″ DUBS. Remember our O% financing, 0 down, and 0 payments for four years (three if you go pro early) program. This weekend only free tattoo’s with a test drive.
I thought that was a nice program but it is not available to middle aged white guys that run 15.9/40.
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
3:44 pm
I think UGA fans feel if they badmouth AU enough the title will not exist. LOL!!! Haters gonna hate!
Fulmer Cup Champions 2011--Auburn Tigers
May 18th, 2011
3:44 pm
I do Harvey…looks like the arrest tally is up to 6 for the year!
Wow…as often as Auburn fans told the hilarious joke about the UGA football dorms being the the Clarke County Jail, I sure hope they don’t get all sullen when those jokes come back their way. But they ARE Auburn fans so they will.
What’s that? This last one was only a driving incident? Well that didn’t matter to all you high and mighty a-holes last year–did it? An arrest is an arrest.
Cheaters are cheaters…and AU fans can always dish it out way better than they can take it.
This is really going to be one fun year!!
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
3:45 pm
Enter your comments hereMark Bradley you really are pathetic. Bobby Lowder was right to fire Terry Bowden and the Jetgate was a black eye, but how many other schools in the SEC participate in shifty stuff? I am sure Rodney Garner and Richt appeal to parents want that their kids get stern dicipline and good grades.
Lowder presided over AU for the past 30 years in which we won 6 SEC titles, 3 undefeated seasons and one national title (should be two or three but Miami deserved to jump AU in 1983 despite playing a weak schedule).
One of the best parts of the AU title is seeing UGA fans up in arms. They can no longer hold their 1980 title over AU heads as a more recent championship. They are bitter that they have not tasted an undefeated season since 1980 and we have tasted 3.
Auburn under Tubs and know Chizik has one of the highest grad rates inthe SEC and when our players do wrong they actually are punished and held accountable. UGA fans throwing stones is laughable.
BTW – that undeafeated season was a joke in 1980. 12 D1A opponents with a 41% winning percentage combined. 5 teams with 3 or more loses. No team with 10 wins they beat. WOW!!! What a joke. They may claim a title in 1980 but UGA fans should look at 1883, 1993, 2004 and 2010 AU teams to see what a real champion looks like.
HAHAHAH WAR EAGLE AND KISS THE RING!!! Maybe you’ll get a taste one day but I don’t see any SEC schedules for UGA ike they had in 1980 so probably not!! LOL!
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
3:47 pm
Fulmer Cup….the difference between UGA and AUburn is not the arrest (welll UGA has has substantially more off field incidents) but the REAL difference is Auburn actually punishes players. Tubs and Chizik weren’t taught discipline at FSU.
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
3:47 pm
Macon look at the AU 2007 and 2008 recruiting classes under Tubs and look at how many ACTUALLY start or contribute. that is why tubs is gone…same with Bowden. Tubs deserved to go.
You might also look at Chizik as an assistant at AU and at UT. He fielded one of AUs best defenses in 2002. He also understands you need a good offense. Something Tubs never knew. I am sure judging chizik and Roof as head coaches at Iowa State and Duke is deep thinking for UGA sidewalk alumnus but at AU we are a little more thoughtful.
Bo in North Carolina
May 18th, 2011
3:49 pm
404 In your post you stated “systemic corruption in the entire SEC” and “nefarious methods of cheating used by the SEC”. Since you have so much inside information please list each school and what “nefarious” methods each school is using.The NCAA would appreciate this info.
Auboy1981
May 18th, 2011
3:49 pm
I am truly amused by this thread. The truth is most Auburn grads and fans were not fans of Bobby Lowder. Most Auburn folks play the game the way it is supposed to be played. It wasn’t Cam that made our team. It wasn’t Lowder that funded our team. It was a group effort, where in the 2nd time in history a bunch of talented youngsters played their heart out for the school. Those of you that think otherwise don’t understand Auburn. Then again the guy on top always gets the most attention…..WDE….We wouldn’t have it any other way….
danny
May 18th, 2011
3:50 pm
It’s hilarious how Georgia fans always seem to spout sour grapes especially when they go 6 and 7.
Fulmer Cup Champions 2011--Auburn Tigers
May 18th, 2011
3:52 pm
Haters Gonna Hate…high and mighty handle right there. Even higher and mightier post.
Just like an Auburn fan point at another team’s misfortune to justify their own self worth.
“You lose to Florida; so I feel better about myself.”
“Sure we may be being investigated by the NCAA–but YOU had a bunch of players arrested last year, so there.”
Okay. Great, great post buddy.
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
3:52 pm
Auboy1981…the UGA sidewalk contingent is just upset that their 1980 national title is becoming more distant by the year while other SEC teams are taking home the hardware. They are jealous of AUs undefeated seasons.
They realize the 1980 title was ajoke as they played nobody that year.
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
3:54 pm
Are you crying Fulmer cup??? LOL!
Fulmer Cup Champions 2011--Auburn Tigers
May 18th, 2011
3:57 pm
Haters…are ill gotten gains truly gains at all? They are at Auburn…your history of cheating speaks for itself. I will not be suprised when they take that trophy that you are so proud of away from you.
Auburn = Barry Bonds
2010 Fulmer Cup Champs
May 18th, 2011
3:57 pm
Hey mutts,
If Auburn is going on probation, when is it gonna happen?
The reason I ask is because you same idiots keep repeating the same garbage over and over again.
EXAMPLE: WE’Z GONE WIN US DA 2008 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!! GO DOGS SIC EM.
See, just because you repeat the same lie year in and year out doesn’t mean it will come true.
Fulmer Cup Champions 2011--Auburn Tigers
May 18th, 2011
3:57 pm
Nope…smiling–just enjoying the show!
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
3:59 pm
Actually the NCAA has not found anything against our 2010 squad, but I’ll tell you what the NCAA DID find…they found UGA star players selling wares on Ebay…so in terms of cheating in 2010 the NCAA scores it UGA 1….AU nil. LOL!
2010 Fulmer Cup Champs
May 18th, 2011
3:59 pm
UGA fans: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT’S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHERE’S HERSCHELL????WHAAAAAAAAAA NICK FAIRLY BEAT UP OUR OFFENSE!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT’S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
4:01 pm
Fret not UGA fans…the 1980 team members are mostly still alive and well so you can relive the glory days at halftimes for years to come…..relive memories of those big wins over 1-9-1 Tech, 1-10 TCU, 2-9 Vandy.
Oh what a great powerhouse team 1980 was.
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
4:02 pm
Class comments gdawginkalamazoo, but Cam was only part of what made that team. Michael Dyer, Zac Etheridge, Josh Bynes, Demond Washington, Kodi Burns, Fariley, and many others made CRUCIAL plays over and over.
gdawginkalamazoo
May 18th, 2011
4:02 pm
Actually Cam did make your team. Just like Tebow made the UF teams. Once in a lifetime player. Whether or not Cam got paid, it makes no difference as to what he did on the field. He was clearly a dominant player. Auburn won the title on the field with players that it recruited. As a dawg fan, it was nothing but impressive. I don’t like all the “cheaters” talk. Until there is actually evidence that anything was done wrong Auburn and Cam had one hell of a 2010 season. And yes I wish UGA could win one, sometime soon, at least in my life time, before I get too old to talk smack about it.
middleoftheroader
May 18th, 2011
4:04 pm
I get that this man has owned Auburn football and acted like sports at a public university were his private domain. What I don’t get is the comments that seem to indicate UGA, FL, FSU, UT, LSU, AL, etc., are any different. And we can grouse all we want but so far Cam is sitting pretty. No charges, an NFL berth, Heisman, etc. We didn’t do this when the other SEC schools won championships and we didn’t stick up for AU in 2004 when AU should have gone to the BCS Bowl. I see players leaving UGA because they can’t handle the academics or because they are thugs who abuse the privileges and opportunities being a Dawg affords. There’s been other violations but the hatred for AU is mind blowing. I’m not jealous that another SEC team is the national champion if we aren’t and I hope Richt can bring it back. We just look like we are jealous and are poor losers. And what about our own situation with our board member and Yoculan that was an open secret for years. We sure looked classy and above board. And then our AD caught with some skank’s panties while driving drunk the day BEFORE his huge contract kicked in. We really have room to talk, don’t we?
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
4:06 pm
Well said Middleoftheroader…..well said.
Coastal
May 18th, 2011
4:19 pm
I guess it’s good that things are starting to resemble some semblance of normalcy. I guess. . . .
Harvey Updyke Jr.
May 18th, 2011
4:22 pm
Love is in the air. How bout them trees?
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
4:26 pm
They are still alive…how is that Iron Bowl loss still feeling? 24-0….OUCH!!!
Buh Bye, Dawgtards
May 18th, 2011
4:45 pm
When the NCAA uncovers all the filth and garbage under the surface in Athens, it will make Auburn look like choirboys.
The corruption at UGA is bad, worse than most people can imagine.
Some of the rot was exposed when Damon Evans went down, but the rest is just moldering away, waiting to be exposed.
Fulmer Cup Champions 2011--Auburn Tigers
May 18th, 2011
4:46 pm
Haters Gonna Hate…As much as it irks me to say it, Saban was right–without Cam you clowns had 5 losses last year. You’ll see what happens this year.
And you are right. AJ sold his jersey…and he was punished severely and turned our season’s already dismal prospects into a nightmare. I don’t hide from that fact. Nor do I point at other schools claiming that their cheating justifies my own. We broke the rules and paid the price.
Why is it that Auburn fans never think they should have to pay the price for cheating. Oh…that’s right–it is because the only success you have ever known was a result of cheating.
At least a the cheating tigers never change their stripes! (although this year that should be changed to PRISON stripes–HEY-O!)
Whistle Blower
May 18th, 2011
4:50 pm
“I see players leaving UGA because they can’t handle the academics or because they are thugs who abuse the privileges and opportunities being a Dawg affords.”
Mark Richt is trying to clean things up just enough so that UGA’s unethical and shoddy operation isn’t blown sky high. He’s just trying to save his fat paychecks.
gdawginkalamazoo
May 18th, 2011
4:52 pm
Haters gonna hate, yes I agree, it is a team effort and there are certain remarkable plays that have to be made to go undefeated. But Cam, just like Tebow, seemed like they could will the team to victory.
Really, that TD at the end of halftime at the SEC CG? It was like ridiculous.
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
4:55 pm
Fulmer Cup….I hope yuo are not planning on UGA being better the AUburn in the future…..I would say Au has a little bit more talent then the UGA dream team.
And all you hoping and praying that AU cheated is going to do nothing but add more gray hairs. They won’t be able to recognize you at the Georgia SOuthern reunion. LOL!
Haters Gonna Hate
May 18th, 2011
4:56 pm
Anyone who followed Rodney Garners recruitment of Michael Thorton know UGA is playing dirty pool. The NCAA investigated Cam and found no wrong doing. I dare say Thorton would not be so lucky.
Goodwaterbetty
May 18th, 2011
5:31 pm
Bobby Lowder has become the “lightening rod” for many, especially the media. He angered the Journalism department by suggesting some changes which made fiscal sense a number of years ago and they immediately used the “power of the press” to demonize him–and some of these “journalists” have never let up. Is he perfect? No. None of us is. However, several journalists, in published articles since his decision to withdraw as a candidate for another term on the board, have written that there has never been a more devoted Auburn supporter than Bobby Lowder. In the end, I believe that the good he has done for the university will far exceed any damage that may have occurred. I am glad that he withdrew since I believe it was for the betterment of the university, and that is what he has been after for many, many years. War Eagle!
Greg
May 18th, 2011
6:55 pm
“It wasn’t Cam that made our team”. Now THAT is pure gold. The player who was bought for a year was only the number 1 pick in the draft. You will be back to your mediocre ways this year without him. How could any objective person not admit that AU wouldn’t have lost AT LEAST 5 games without him.
When the Dawgs whip that ass this year between the hedges, what will it be? 5 of 6 or 6 of 7? I’ve lost count.
ATL is TigerTown
May 18th, 2011
8:28 pm
Most of you aholes are total morons who have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I’d advise you to keep your pie hole shut if you want to keep your total stupidity a secret. Now let me hear everyone of you idiots holler “War Eagle!” Ha ha ha…
AUGreg
May 18th, 2011
11:49 pm
All I hear is a bunch of trash talking thugs form other trash talking hating schools that want to see Auburn get burned. I remember the old days when Florida paid for players and got burned, then Auburn got hit during Pat Dye for Mr. Ramsey getting food for his family. Then it was BAMA’s turn for eligle activity, then it was UT (finally, which ran a great program for many years.) and now that Auburn won, and beat everyone on their list convencingly, all the Haters come out and trash and mouth off. Well, be careful what you say. Your turn is coming. Be warned that you heard it here. To date, Auburn has not been charged nor have they been found of any illigal or false activity. We got our trees killed, we get our named mudled, and we get to hear uneducated morons mouth off, all because we are successful. WE ARE STILL NO. 1. Stick that in you mouthpiece for awhile. Next year we get to talk about you. Unless, we beat you again. WAR CAM DAMN EAGLE!
Auburn fans are horrible....
May 19th, 2011
12:21 am
AUGreg…you just keep saying that: We are #1! War Cam Eagle! Chant it over and over again. Then tell us UGA fans that we can’t doubt the sanctity of your rented National Championship because we had so many traffic arrests! You are right! Every kid that got caught was punished…and publicly vilified by the AJC. All UGA players paid the price for their transgressions.
CAM you say the same at Auburn? Or will you say the same old tired…there is no proof?
These are the facts:
UGA is down.
We haven’t been great in a long time.
Auburn has been great.
All of Auburn’s success is directly attributed to cheating.
I mean every good season they have ever had…all achieved through cheating.
My favorite SEC rivalry, AU vs UGA is now garbage because of the way you now play and the way your fans carry themselves. Sorry–you ruined something great. You deserve all of your upcoming heartache. (2 years ago I felt differently but Chizik has ruined a great thing.)
Mtn Dawg
May 19th, 2011
8:52 am
Wow! What a power hungry prick. Good riddance indeed.
Heep Bad Dawg Dude
May 19th, 2011
9:46 am
Sorry to tell y’all but we have our own Lowder with Leeburn.
Dawg Tired
May 19th, 2011
10:23 am
He’ll only be “gone” in that he will not be “officially” associated or connected to the university. He’ll still give his money to the school he obviously cares about greatly. Some of that money will be in the form of legitimate donations. I suspect that much more will be “under the radar” to folks like Cecil Newton who have sons that can accomplish what Auburn is really all about – and that is not education.
Rbrn Grduate
May 19th, 2011
10:25 am
Who da heck is gone to funnl cashes 2 them theier recrutes now
chiefdawg
May 19th, 2011
11:17 am
Sure wish UGA had a Lowder. Maybe they could win a National Championship then.
Hart Co.
May 19th, 2011
12:39 pm
I could care less about what’s going on at Auburn. Cam dont either!
Remember
May 19th, 2011
12:54 pm
WDE = We Deny Everything
chiefdawg
May 19th, 2011
1:51 pm
If Leeburn is UGA’s Lowder, he ain’t gettign his money’s worth.
Dawg Trainer
May 19th, 2011
2:15 pm
Tree yars igo, I culdn’t een spel ‘Studint’. Now I be one at de Eunivarcity uf Jawja! Damsor E. Mutt, Clazz uf 2012
islanddawg
May 19th, 2011
2:32 pm
Its a pitty they didn’t get rid of him sooner. He has really tarnished his own image by being on that board.
Its good to see Aubs talking about this national championship. I wish we had that to talk about as well. But come football season, i hope you guys remember those arguments you used to get into with bama fans. Remember saying things like, “the past doesnt matter”? Well, i got news for you: come September, your crystal ball is a thing of the past. Athens, Ga on a Saturday night Between the Hedges……you cats better pack a lunch. Go Dawgs.
Carl Smith
May 19th, 2011
3:35 pm
Dogs still unhappy they thought the Cam-man was not a QB…there is an old country song that describes it best…Don’t overlook an orchid while searching for a rose…
Evansdawg
May 19th, 2011
4:09 pm
I smell a rat at every corner of Auburn Athletics. I always have. That rat is Bobby Lowder. I wonder what kind of relationship he had with those Alabama politicians that received pay outs from slot machines in exchange for votes.
Mike Smith (Georgia Fan)
May 19th, 2011
7:13 pm
I dont see why we dont just move to pay the players a fair wage while they are in school. Yes the scholarship is great, but at the same time allowing them a fair living wage would eliminate half of the rhetoric the game doesnt need. I watch the games for the game, the SEC is awash with money these guys go out there and put there life and limb on the line for us, and it does get it old to hear about who’s cheating this, who’s cheating that. Just enjoy the game and move back to whats important. Hey yeah we were 6-7 last year, we could go 13-0 this year. You just never know whats going to happen. Just got to hope and enjoy the game, it is a game after all. JUST A GAME
suncoastwareagle
May 19th, 2011
10:45 pm
Every time I read these bammer posts I smile just imagining how pissed you all are that Auburn has beat the red stink out of you for the past 7 out of 9 years. Poor little snivelling bammers. Go suck your thumb and find your blankie. No body cheated…bama was just OUT-COACHED!
Good Riddance Bobby Lowder « Everyone's Entitled to Joe's Opinion
May 20th, 2011
1:08 am
[...] So I hear it on pretty good authority that Bobby Lowder will not be back for another term as Auburn trustee. [...]
Rocketman37
May 20th, 2011
1:04 pm
Hey, you pathetic Auburn-bashing losers,,,WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. BOOOOO HOOOOOOO.
NATIONAL CHAMPIONS. Any questions?
I think we need some space
May 20th, 2011
8:11 pm
I’m sure this doesn’t have anything to do with needing to create some distance between Auburn and Lowder in preparation for the upcoming NCAA probe.
Gene Chizik
May 20th, 2011
8:14 pm
This is PURE GARBAGE. That’s all it is, GARBAGE. I know what goes on at Auburn and you don’t. I’ll head butt you if you come any closer. I’ll bench press your coffee table. GARBAGE.
pigskin72
May 21st, 2011
10:24 am
IF THEY WERE COMING, THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY COME. I JUST LOVE ENVY, AND THAT IS ALL YOU ARE SHOWING. NEXT YEAR THEY ARE PUTTING A RAZOR-WIRE FENCE AROUND SANFORD STADIUM, AND THE PLAYERS WILL COME IN PIN STRIPE “MONKEY SUITS,” OR ORANGE JUMP SUITS, AND WILL BE ESCORTED OUT BY THE SAME GUARDS WHO BROUGHT THEM IN. “EAT YOUR HEART OUT, DOG”
Dirty Dawg
May 21st, 2011
11:47 am
Actually, Don Leeburn isn’t the ‘poor-man’s’ version of Bobby Lowder, he’s the ‘drinking-man’s’ version…and dear AU fans, your constant harping that the NCAA hasn’t found Auburn guilty of anything, including linking them to the Cecil Newton contacts with Miss State (he just all of a sudden had a ‘What would Jesus do?’ moment and stopped asking for ‘Money for Cam’). Face it folks, the NCAA has, specifically, noted that the ‘investigation’ is not closed. Now if you can get through the Uncle Milty McGregor’s trial next month without him throwing Auburn under those oak trees then you just might ’skate’…until the hush money runs out on, say, that ‘Trooper’ guy, and he threatens to tell all he knows about this mess. Then you can crow about being ‘winners’ – again, that is until somebody else has a WWJD epiphany and decides to ‘come clean’.
shane#1
May 21st, 2011
12:30 pm
First? Calling all AU fans, have we got a deal for you! Rich, overbearing trustee, should fit right in with your boosters. How much, you ask? Only two O linemen! That’s right friends! For two fat slobs you get your very own trustee, complete with whiskey! But that’s not all! For the same low price you get one oily University President! Why do we have a deal like this? Because you are who you are, and hey, we like you. This is a limited offer, so act today! /buckheadcondoandbecahfrontpropertynotincluded/
Michael
May 23rd, 2011
1:31 pm
The SEC is one tough conference.
2smartjones
May 24th, 2011
9:14 pm
Dirty Dawg – I LOVE to come on here and see you and your ilk still crying your little eyes out about AUBURN UNIVERSITY being REIGNING NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!! LOL!!! You just keep on praying that the NCAA will do SOMETHING, ANYTHING to try and take away an EARNED NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!! NOTHING is going to come of it, son!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
On a sad note: so sorry that your mom is the Grandma Bandit! I know you’re proud of her in that uga hat though! LOL!!!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE FOREVER!!!
AUBURN TIGERS #1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2smartjones
May 24th, 2011
9:39 pm
Dirty Dawg – Just a quick thought here. Why don’t we try to hook up your mom, the Grandma Bandit, with Harvey Updyke, the tree poisoner?
They’re about the same age and what an appropriate uga/bammer union they would make! Just think of how proud that would make you, Dirty Dawg!
I can’t think of ANY better representation for the fan bases of those two schools!!!