Unimpressed by Gregory, Tech fans? You could be Mizzou

"Does Frank Haith have one of these?" (AP photo)

"Does Frank Haith have one of these?" (AP photo)

It’s fair to say that more than a few Georgia Tech fans weren’t overly impressed with Brian Gregory, who was hired to replace Paul Hewitt. Imagine how Missouri folks must feel today. Mizzou just hired the last man Hewitt beat.

Missouri has tapped Frank Haith to replace Mike Anderson, who left for Arkansas, which fired John Pelphrey, who’s from Paintsville, Ky., which is the hometown of both my mom and dad. But I digress.

Frank Haith has coached Miami — that’s the Miami based in South Florida, not Southern Ohio –  for seven seasons. He has made the NCAA once. He has won one NCAA tournament game, that against Saint Mary’s, as head coach. He never had a winning record in ACC play. Not to put too fine a point on it, but the best of Haith sounds a lot like the worst of Hewitt. And  yet …

He’s Missouri’s man. Which goes to show:

Hiring coaches isn’t as easy as it sounds, and it’s getting harder. It used to be that any BCS school could cherry-pick the latest hot mid-major guy and be done with it, but Brad Stevens (Butler) and Jim Larranaga (George Mason) and Bob McKillop (Davidson) and Mark Few (Gonzaga) have made it chic to stay small. Chris Mooney spoke via phone to Tech, only to hang up and re-up with Richmond. Maybe Shaka Smart will do the same when N.C. State seeks to lure him from VCU. (UPDATE: Smart has. He’s staying with the Rams.)

Missouri aimed high, waving serious money in the attempt to entice Purdue’s Matt Painter, who has been the Big Ten’s coach of the year three times in four seasons. He thought about it but stayed at his alma mater. (For a healthy raise, natch.) The next obvious Missouri target would have been a hot mid-major guy like Cuonzo Martin of Missouri State, except that he’d already taken the Tennessee job. So instead of a hot mid-major coach, the Tigers wound up with someone from a major program who wasn’t even lukewarm.

Brian Gregory wasn’t an eye-popping hire, but he’s solid. I’m not sure you could even call Frank Haith solid. His final two ACC games, both in the tournament, represented his tenure in miniature: In Round 1 the Hurricanes rallied from 10 points down in the final minute of regulation to beat Virginia in overtime; in Round 2 they wasted a 19-point lead and lost to North Carolina.

Perhaps there’s something in Haith’s resume I’ve yet to appreciate. (He worked under Dave Odom and Rick Barnes, one of whom could really coach.) And it’s true that, two years ago, Georgia spoke with Haith before hiring Mark Fox. But for all those Jacket backers who have looked askance at Gregory’s 70-58 record in Atlantic 10 games while at Dayton … well, 70-58 beats the heck out of 43-69, which is what Mizzou’s new maestro managed in the ACC.

By Mark Bradley

102 comments Add your comment

GTHorsie

April 4th, 2011
3:08 pm

I think GT fans need to get behind Gregory, quit whining, and welcome our new Coach. We wanted to #FirePaulHewitt, and we did. GO JACKETS!

ArkyTech

April 4th, 2011
3:13 pm

Wow. Shoulda just brought back Quinn Snyder.

GTHorsie

April 4th, 2011
3:15 pm

By the way, Mark, any word yet on Gregory’s assistants?

norman

April 4th, 2011
3:18 pm

Bradley- Your opinion of Missouri hiring Frank Haith was the same as your opinion of Auburn hiring Gene Chizik, wasn’t it? And hey, Chizik aint done so bad at Auburn

Dawgs97

April 4th, 2011
3:19 pm

LOLOLOLOL

Looking forward to owning Tech for a while. Brian Gregory in Webster’s, is Caucasian for ‘Paul Hewitt’.

juvenal

April 4th, 2011
3:22 pm

rats-just missed twice,today-only thing i wonder about is a system that pulls players out based on time even if they are hot-cph did that….

juvenal

April 4th, 2011
3:24 pm

also, looks like jon stewart…

Dink

April 4th, 2011
3:27 pm

George Stein

April 4th, 2011
3:32 pm

I think Dawgs97 is a 12 year old girl. He sure writes like it.

GT71

April 4th, 2011
3:35 pm

Coaches playing schools like fiddles. Get an offer, put them on hold, call big-time alum and tell him. Tell new guy you’ll call him back tomorrow.
Wait 27 minutes and the ‘Boss’ – the AD – calls and offers 2 more years and a 30% bump.

GT71

April 4th, 2011
3:38 pm

Oh, and Dawgs97 — Caucasian for ‘Paul Hewitt’ – I love it.
But we hope Gregory works out….at least well enough to be you guys regularly and UNC/Duke once/yr.

GT71

April 4th, 2011
3:39 pm

that’s BEAT, not be.

Paul Hewitt

April 4th, 2011
3:40 pm

Thanks for all your support Mark you talentless hack.

Tech CE 80

April 4th, 2011
3:44 pm

I have to admit, the hiring of CBG didn’t send me jumping through the ceiling when it was first announced. I had become convinced, reading the blogs here, that Richmond’s Mooney was going to be the coach. But the more I read of CBG, the more he sounds like a good fit at Tech. Plus, I still don’t think we could do better than DRad for an AD, so when DRad hired him, I was on board at that point already. Welcome Coach Gregory!

Bobby

April 4th, 2011
3:44 pm

I am unimpressed by the braves offense today. Just like last year. 11 runs one game. 0 the next.

Oh

April 4th, 2011
3:47 pm

GT owns UGA where it matters, in real life.

Paul Hewitt

April 4th, 2011
3:49 pm

Fire Terry Pendleton’s butt know!

Mark Bradley

April 4th, 2011
3:50 pm

Haven’t heard on Gregory’s staff. Should hear within a matter of days.

Hankie Aron

April 4th, 2011
3:50 pm

It seems lately MB you are really fascinated with using astute upper echelon words like askance. I dont’ know that I have ever heard that work anywhere. But hey, this isn’t a UGA blog anyway.

Duckafawg

April 4th, 2011
3:52 pm

@Dawgs97: great job as usual of introducing race into a totally unrelated subject….moron

Hankie Aron

April 4th, 2011
3:53 pm

fan

April 4th, 2011
3:53 pm

fire mark bradley that is all he talk about is a black man losing his job AJC should fire him

Hankie Aron

April 4th, 2011
3:54 pm

and sadly I am a die hard Dawg fan. also unrelated I agree with you Duckafawg, don’t bring race into any of this. It’s tired

Desperation on the Ave

April 4th, 2011
3:54 pm

Tech fans would have only been happy with Don Shula.

Anybody other than Don Shula is simply unacceptable.

Don Shula would have been great.

Hankie Aron

April 4th, 2011
3:55 pm

fan, lighten your load, it has nothing to do with race. He is comparing Mizzou’s coach with Paul Hewitt. Hewitt was recently fired and it had nothing to do with the color of his skin.

Einsteindawg

April 4th, 2011
3:56 pm

Please excuse me for being on the nerd board, but I think Tech made a good hire. Why spend a lot of money for one of the “hot shot” coaches (here today, gone tomorrow) when all you need is a good coach to get you into the field of 68 (or soon to be 72) each year. Look at our womens’ BB coach, Landers…a good man, clean program, adequate grad rate, and an NCAA invite almost every year. How ’bout continuing to spend on a good education.

Mark Bradley

April 4th, 2011
3:58 pm

And for all those who said, “Why didn’t Tech wait on Shaka Smart?” Because they’d still be looking for a coach if they had.

misterwax

April 4th, 2011
4:00 pm

next year you will know a LOT if the suburban crowd really shoes up at the Gwinnett Arena….. might be smart to have several games there…

Barry

April 4th, 2011
4:01 pm

VCU coach Smart agrees to new contract

GT in CT

April 4th, 2011
4:07 pm

I came across a couple informative Dayton videos that made me feel good about Gregory. I recommend them to unhappy Tech fans.

Dayton players on Gregory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk8yNQDcZ7U&feature=fvst

Gregory feature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ihZk1PvQw&feature=related

An objective analysis of the Hire

April 4th, 2011
4:17 pm

GT had fleeting fame in NCAA basketball under Bobby Cremmins, my old Dunwoody neighbor. He is gone and so is GT fame in future NCAA basketball games. It is over for them in B ball like it has been in football ( except two lone Urange bids in 43 years) since the Dodd era in the 1950s. By the early 60s, Dodd was spending too much time at Bitsey Grant with his old pal Jack D.

This new BBall coach? He will be gone within 3 or 4 years. GT BB is history. That is why NO NAMES wanted the job. GT is a graveyard for coaches.

NW Ga Jacket

April 4th, 2011
4:21 pm

This GT fan think Gregory was a fine hire. Glad to try someone new.

JM

April 4th, 2011
4:24 pm

I didn’t know much about Gregory when his hire was first announced. But now I like what I’ve read. He’s another good man.

JM

April 4th, 2011
4:25 pm

also, I wonder where Miami’s going to get their next coach?

so

April 4th, 2011
4:30 pm

NC State now has $3MM just awaiting…???

You just know that no coach will win there next year and if not will probably hear disgruntled fans grousing…too impatient to wait for year two
(sounds a lot like Tech fan might do).

Jacketbacker

April 4th, 2011
4:38 pm

I like Gregory and will support the basketball team. Most Tech fans I speak with like Gregory. Actually looking forward to a basketball season!

Go Jackets!!

Gordon

April 4th, 2011
4:45 pm

I feel as good as I can about Gregory considering we haven’t played a game under him yet. He is a solid guy, and I feel like our team will play a much more fundamental style than we did under Hewitt. I think who he hires for his staff will be very important.

I think NC State should hire Gregg Marshall. That’s who I wanted for Tech, but I don’t think we could afford him. The ACC has really gotten rid of a lot of dead wood in the last 2 years.

George Stein

April 4th, 2011
4:47 pm

That seemed really well reasoned and extremely objective, Objective. Thanks.

Hewitt Fan

April 4th, 2011
4:57 pm

@Mark Bradley

Please quit trying to make GT look good after they made a horrible hire!..Haith is a very respected coach in big 12 country..He worked with Barnes at Texas for years..In the ACC, lets face it, Duke and NC are going to be 1 and 2 most years, no one really wins on the road, and good coaches don’t last long..Doug Roberson asked Gregory how he plans to deal with the bad, unfair refs on the road..He really didn’t have an answer..Purnell left for Depaul, now Haith leaves…This is a trend that will continue..why stay in the ACC, you are going to ruin your career! You wanted Hewitt out so bad, and once GT fired him, they had to hire a coach who had made the NCAAs twice in 8 years and was about to get ran out of town..No one on your replacement list wanted the GT job..And it was not about money, The ACC is a bad conference and ruins good coaches careers.. good one Mark…keep up the good work!..

Mark Bradley

April 4th, 2011
4:59 pm

Gregory was on my replacement list, FYI.

Hewitt Fan

April 4th, 2011
5:03 pm

@Mark,

why would you put a coach on the hot seat on your list?..

Supersize that order, mutt

April 4th, 2011
5:05 pm

I’m still upset that we didn’t hold off Calipari’s availability. I think we rushed into this hire a little too soon. We’ll see I guess.

cooper

April 4th, 2011
5:06 pm

dear DRAD/BG, any chance a former GT BB player can come on board with Gregory to help re energize the bb program? Maybe they cannot join you but could you at least ask, Dennis Scott, Craig Neal, Kenny Anderson, Mark Price, etc…I realize asking someone like Price may be threatening, but he is not the type that wants to cut your throat or stab you in the back and proceed to take over the program. No need to be worried.

Or do you just want them hanging around while you hire four Dayton assistants who did not much of anything in 2010 to impress anyone?

Just asking

Or

GetReal

April 4th, 2011
5:10 pm

Of course Chizik has done well at Auburn. Anybody can do well if they get to buy the players they want.

BigTimeTECHFan

April 4th, 2011
5:13 pm

“It’s fair to say that more than a few Georgia Tech fans weren’t overly impressed with Brian Gregory”

I don’t think that’s fair, a “few” would be fair, but “more then a few” is overstatement. 99% of Tech fans like the hire.

George Stein

April 4th, 2011
5:15 pm

99% of us will really like him if he puts a competitive, competent team out there next year, BigTime.

Road Scholar

April 4th, 2011
5:16 pm

Shoulda, coulda, woulda….

Hewitt is gone. Support our coach now. Stop the whining. You’re starting to sound like Dawg fans!

GTBob

April 4th, 2011
5:19 pm

I think people were a little hard on Gregory just because everyone thought Mooney was a done deal. Not that I think Mooney would have been a better hire, just that Tech fans got comfortable with him being the next coach and then things went a different way. Most Tech fans I know are warming up to Gregory pretty fast. Me personally, I like the hire the more I read about him.

BigTimeTECHFan

April 4th, 2011
5:20 pm

George Stein – Yea, but Mark think because he doesnt think much of Tech’s hire, that’s the way the Tech fans think.

ormewood

April 4th, 2011
5:21 pm

The ACC seems to be shedding some of their mediocre coaches: Hewitt, Lowe, Haith. Purnell was a good coach, but his replacement is off to a decent start.

On the surface, this seems like a brutal hire for Mizzou. By all accounts, Haith is a good guy and he vcan recruit a little bit, but fans care in Columbia, MO. They don’t at Miami.