Could the Chick-fil-A Bowl replace the Fiesta in the BCS?
BCS-wise, I'm pretty sure I know how the cow would vote. (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)
A column back in 2004 prompted the Chick-fil-A Bowl’s president to threaten never to offer this correspondent a game credential again. The threat, never carried through, was a response to this writer’s claim that the game was third-tier — not to say third-rate, I stipulated then and stipulate now — and therefore would not find a place in the BCS rotation, which was due to expand by one.
(My definition of tiers: First were the BCS games themselves; second were the New Year’s Day games [Cotton, Capital One, Outback, et cetera]; third was the Chick-fil-A and its ilk. The Independence Bowl would be 10th-tier.)
But now it’s 2011 and Gary Stokan and I have since actually exchanged something approaching pleasantries, and now I’m posing the question I dismissed back when: Might Atlanta’s bowl actually make the leap to Tier 1?
I ask because the BCS is the process of distancing itself from the Fiesta Bowl, which just jettisoned president John Junker — full disclosure: I’ve met John Junker — due to revelations involving reimbursement to bowl staffers for political contributions. (That’s illegal, FYI.) And if the Fiesta falls completely out of BCS favor, some bowl would have to replace it. Could the Chick-fil-A be that bowl?
Ryan McGee of ESPN The Magazine offers a list of five possibilities. One of the names on the list is the Fiesta itself, coming in at No. 3. (McGee’s take: The Fiesta could still hold its spot.) No. 1 is the Cotton Bowl, which has moved to Jerry Jones’ new stadium. No. 2 is the Capital One, which is played in a nice city (Orlando) but in an ancient stadium. No. 5 is the Outback, which is staged in Tampa and has a pirate ship in the end zone.
No. 4 is the Chick-fil-A Bowl, of which McGee writes:
Anyone who has ever been to the game formerly known as the Peach Bowl knows that its atmosphere is one of the most electric of the entire bowl season. Again, it has plenty of cash, a big league infrastructure, a city that makes its living hosting gigantic events, and an ESPN TV deal. But of all the games listed here, this bowl might be the least interested in messing with its current formula, an SEC versus ACC showdown that has enjoyed 14 consecutive sellouts. Then again, all the factors that I listed above might allow the Chick-fil-A Bowl organizers to keep their current game and add one more, two in the years they host the BCS Championship Game. Hey, the Fiesta Bowl staff has been pulling that off for years.
Here I would add only this: Unless I’ve been completely off in my reading of Stokan and Co. over time, they would be very much interested in moving up to the Big(ger) Time.
Do I think it’s apt to happen? Not really. That game in Arlington and the outsize presence of Mr. Jones would be tough to trump. But as president of the Atlanta Sports Council, Stokan spent years lobbying for big events to come here, and he created the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game, which began in 2008 and is already a major deal, from nothing at all. Were a BCS slot to come open, I’m guessing he could find it within himself to make another pitch.
By Mark Bradley
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@DanWeiner
March 30th, 2011
6:48 pm
It’s a no brainer. It’s the Cotton Bowl. It’s in a much better stadium and makes a much better tie-in with the Big 12 geographically.
The Chick-Fil-a Bowl should replace the Orange Bowl. Miami is a great city, that stadium is a dump.
Mark Bradley
March 30th, 2011
6:50 pm
Thing is, Dan, I’m kind of a no-brainer myself.
headley lamar
March 30th, 2011
6:52 pm
Nope. It will be the Cotton Bowl
@DanWeiner
March 30th, 2011
6:52 pm
You’re being hard on yourself Mark, you’re more of a half-brainer.
Paul in RDU
March 30th, 2011
6:54 pm
OK – so it has been confirmed that the people running the Fiesta Bowl were corrupt and just looking out for themselves while at the same time enjoying tax-exempt status. Hopefully the IRS will look at some of the other members of the Bowl Cartel Series.
Mark Bradley
March 30th, 2011
6:54 pm
Thanks. I guess I’m a brain-half-full kind of guy.
Mark Bradley
March 30th, 2011
6:55 pm
John Junker’s base salary was $600,000 for overseeing a couple of football games. Just FYI.
Paul in RDU
March 30th, 2011
6:56 pm
@DanWeiner
The Orange Bowl is no longer played in the dump in Miami – it is in Ft Lauderdale Joe Robbie / ProPlayer / Landshark / Whatever they are calling it now Stadium.
TMC
March 30th, 2011
6:56 pm
The new Aurthur Blank House might influence this a bit too.
Maybe that might help negotiations a little as well.
Your welcome AB.
@DanWeiner
March 30th, 2011
6:56 pm
I appreciate your optimistic outlook, Mark.
Lou Holtz aka the Spitting Cobra
March 30th, 2011
6:57 pm
Jerry World or Univ of Phoenix Stadium versus the Georgia Dome? It’s going to the Cotton Bowl or the Fiesta Bowl will figure out a way to keep it.
Matt
March 30th, 2011
6:58 pm
Eh, location wise makes no sense. Why have 3/4 BCS bowls in the Southeast? Isn’t going to happen. You need one in California and somewhere west of the Mississippi River.
@DanWeiner
March 30th, 2011
7:01 pm
Expanding on a point I made earlier, Atlanta should absolutely be the site of a BCS Game. Atlanta is the center of the college football universe because it’s in the middle of SEC country.
The Orange Bowl has history and has that history because all those midwest schools wanted a warm place to play in January, but the Stadium is awful and is in an awful location. It’s long past due for the 4th BCS Bowl to be in Atlanta and not Miami.
PMC
March 30th, 2011
7:04 pm
Well maybe a snowballs chance in Hades. Jerry World is brand new. The good news is that he and his minions handled the super bowl about as poorly as it could be handled weather or no weather they were awful.
Atlanta is in a perfect spot for a BCS bowl and has everything they need including an airport that collects many more flights than others in the country already.
One hulking issue….. The Georgia Dome….
PMC
March 30th, 2011
7:05 pm
Also it couldn’t be called the Chick Fil A bowl anymore.
It would have to be the Peach Bowl presented by Chick Fil A.
The Cotton Bowl is one of the originals and it was bigger to begin with so they are fighting a bit of history.
PMC
March 30th, 2011
7:07 pm
Personally I don’t think it’s going anywhere, if anyone knows ANYTHING about corruption its the BCS.
Mark Bradley
March 30th, 2011
7:08 pm
It might, TMC. But I’ve been led to believe the Chick-fil-A Bowl — and, one would assume, any other bowls — will stay in the Georgia Dome.
Mark Bradley
March 30th, 2011
7:09 pm
True story: I once got off a plane at the Fort Lauderdale Airport and asked a cab driver to take me to the stadium but couldn’t remember what name it bore that season. So I said, “You know, where the Dolphins play.”
GTBob
March 30th, 2011
7:12 pm
This wouldn’t even be close. The Cotton Bowl is the only real replacement.
Ron Roberts
March 30th, 2011
7:12 pm
TMC, Arthurt’s new digs won’t interest the BCS because he wants a completely outdoor football stadium for the Falcons, and early January in Atlanta isn’t usually fan-friendly. Personally, I wish Mr. Blank would get off the taxpayers’ necks and go halves with us on retrofitting the dome with a retractable roof and building some more suites. The joint seats 72,000 – so lose 5,000 seats in the mezzanine and put some of those precious high-dollar suites in their place.
Ron Roberts
March 30th, 2011
7:16 pm
PMC, what is so wrong w/the Georgia Dome, anyhow? I don’t understand the knock on that building. It’s, what, 21 years old, and holding up quite well, I think. Anybody remember what Fulton County Stadium looked like in 1987? How about the Omni in the early 90s? The Georgia Dome’s FINE.
Take it from another perspective…. the Superdome in New Orleans is a man-made CAVE with dark, tight corridors, horrid acoustics and not a lot of suites, either. Yet it hosts a BCS bowl…
The Georgia Dome is fine as-is, but if you have to have more suites and want the outdoor experience, you can’t tell me it’s impossible to retrofit a removable roof on it.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
7:19 pm
I think the fact that the SEC has owned the BCS for a while will keep Atlanta out of the running. It would be a home game for the SEC. They would not want the National Championship Semi-finals (the SEC Championship game) and the BCS in the same city.
Mark Bradley
March 30th, 2011
7:20 pm
I’ve been to all the BCS games, and I can tell you that, stadium-wise, the Dome is better than three of the four. (Although the Rose Bowl does have the San Gabriel Mountains working for it.)
Mark Bradley
March 30th, 2011
7:21 pm
That’s a good point, bamaguy. And you already have BCS games in New Orleans and Miami.
lanier
March 30th, 2011
7:25 pm
they would have to change that hoky name for sure. reminds me of the poulan weedeater bowl
Mark Bradley
March 30th, 2011
7:27 pm
I don’t think anything beats the Weedeater Bowl.
todd grantham
March 30th, 2011
7:28 pm
Come on Mark. Chic for Fiesta? it would never fly with the politically correct ncaa.
gcs
March 30th, 2011
7:29 pm
Speaking of dumps, why not move the Sugar Bowl to Atlanta?
FYI, the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Games have been so successful that there will be two games played in 2012.
I dare you to find a bigger and better college football fan base & atmosphere than Atlanta. Phoenix, L.A., New Orleans and Miami cannot hold a candle to ATL.
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nick fairley
March 30th, 2011
7:29 pm
The GA dome isn’t good enough. Don’t think the cotton bowl is either. Just hope it’s not that awful stadium in San Fransisco.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
7:31 pm
I have been to games in all the BCS stadiums as well and the Dome is better than all but the Orange Bowl (how can you hate Miami in January) in my opinion. But then again the Rose Bowl is the ROSE BOWL.
todd grantham
March 30th, 2011
7:31 pm
and what would Mr S. Truett Cathy say if tv demanded the game be played on a Sunday?
nick fairley
March 30th, 2011
7:33 pm
What’s the name of that loser bowl game in Memphis? Maybe that one.
todd grantham
March 30th, 2011
7:35 pm
i think he would say “we are confronted primarily with a moral issue. it is as old as the Scriptures, and as clear as the American Constitution”.
wait, i think that was Jack Kennedy.
nick fairley
March 30th, 2011
7:35 pm
The NFL schedule would prevent a Sunday BCS game.
Jerry Jones cathedral or the Meadow lands or whatever Giants new stadium is.
nick fairley
March 30th, 2011
7:38 pm
Denver!!! Or Seattle? Grunge apathy anarchy bowl?
Beast from the East
March 30th, 2011
7:39 pm
Would love to see it in the dome, but if it moves from the Fiesta then I would wager on Jerry World.
Brandi
March 30th, 2011
7:40 pm
some of you need to get out of the house more, the Orange Bowl Stadium was torn down a few yrs ago because it was a DUMP. They play at Sun Life Stadium where the Dolphins play. When GT played in the Orange Bowl in 2010 it was called Landshark. Obviously, some of you did not make that trip.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
7:40 pm
Jerry World is also hosting it’s own kickoff classic in 2012 (Alabama vs Michigan unless they have changed their minds again).
todd grantham
March 30th, 2011
7:46 pm
jerry jones= rich and arragant
truett cathy= rich and humble
jerry jones=spends more on toupees than the donald
truett cathy=comfortable being bald
Dawgdad (The Original)
March 30th, 2011
7:48 pm
MB, don’t tell me these other fine bowls are not dong the same things that the Fiesta did, why should they get off without being investigated?
Shut them all down and have a playoff system, run by the NCAA. They could hand out games to each of these cities and rotate the championship games. I guess all that money generated by the Bowls has created an addiction in the schools and the administrators who benefit by this Bowl madness.
intellibird
March 30th, 2011
7:49 pm
Every time I hear Gary “Invented the Chicken Sandwich” Stokam speak, I can’t help but be overcome by the feeling that I am listening to the world’s greatest pass licker. “Well, we came up with the idea that we would have pre-season bowl games”. What a load. Any Tom, Dick, or Harry could have come up with that idea. Rather, its the amount of brown-nosing and pass licking that brought those deals home. As my dad said, humility is not attractive on a spoiled, rich S.O.B.
jumbeauxtiger
March 30th, 2011
7:54 pm
I don’t think the Fiesta will be dropped by the BCS. They will show they have taken the inappropriate acts seriously. A bowl like that brings in too much money and the politicians will get involved to keep it there.
I said last year that when the next BCS contract is renewed in 2014, the Cotton Bowl will be added as a 5th BCS bowl and it should.
Stokan has done a great job with the Bowl. Atlanta is a fun place but it is terrible trying to tailgate outside the Dome.
I beg to differ on New Orleans. It’s a helluva more conducive for college football. At least you can walk around with a drink there.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
7:55 pm
DIdn’t New Jersey and the Meadowlands invent the kickoff classic many years ago?
nick fairley
March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm
Little Intelibird sounds very angry. Maybe you should spend mOre time playing angry birds and less time on the Internet?
Ramblinwreck
March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm
It would be a fantastic idea for the Atlanta to replace the Arizona sight. Especially with the College Football Hall of Fame moving here.
Hank Kimball
March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm
Truett Cathy is the nicest man I’ve ever met. Well, not the nicest, because I haven’t actually met him. But I hear he really is nice.
The Original Chic Fi Let sandwich is the best food I’ve ever eaten. Well, maybe not the best because Mom made a terrific peminto cheese spread.
I ate at a Chic Fi Let at Southlake last Sunday. Well, not exactly. I got one of those moogo gipan plates from the Chinese place and leaned on the gate of the Chic.
Mr. Cathy’s waffle fries are great. Well, not as great as Mom’s waffles were.
jumbeauxtiger
March 30th, 2011
7:56 pm
@bamaguy
“Jerry World is also hosting it’s own kickoff classic in 2012 (Alabama vs Michigan unless they have changed their minds again).”
And in September, Oregon and LSU, both of whom will be ranked in the top 5, will be meeting there too.
nick fairley
March 30th, 2011
7:58 pm
I agree with jumbeauxtiger, he’ll hold it in BTR!
JBD
March 30th, 2011
7:59 pm
I don’t know if it would be a factor or not but don’t forget about the college football hall of fame relocating here. That would be a good chance to promote the hall of fame and the sport if the national championship game was here every 4 years too.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
8:00 pm
I had forgotten that jumbeaux.
Hank Kimball
March 30th, 2011
8:03 pm
Mark Bradley’s a great columnist. Well, maybe not great, but he is a columnist.
I’ve placed many a bet on his predictions. Well, not so much lately since the foreclosure letters starting coming in the mail.
Bradley’s the first thing I look for in the AJC. Well, not really the first. The first thing I look for is Nathan Deal’s name in the local crime report.
The other day the paper boy threw the AJC through the living room window. “Nice toss” I yelled. He nicely apologized and explained the only reason it broke the glass was Bradley tossed another brick at Paul Hewiit.
moorman
March 30th, 2011
8:04 pm
man, i BEEN SAYING the peach bowl, i meant chick fil a bowl should be in the bcs. its more exciting than most of the bowls…………….
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
8:04 pm
jumbeaux: Which will be much more interesting and draw a much larger national TV audience than the UGA/Boise game. If Atlanta/Chick isn’t careful, Dallas will trump them on pre-season events.
Hank Kimball
March 30th, 2011
8:05 pm
I met Mark at a Hawks game once. Well, more than once. I think I mean I read his column just once.
jumbeauxtiger
March 30th, 2011
8:05 pm
bamaguy, You are correct about the Kickoff Classic being in the Meadowlands. There was another one in Anaheim too if I remember correctly. There also was a 3rd one for historic black schools.
These were all extra games that started a week or so before the regular season. The NCAA did away with allowing these extra games.
Tony Geinzer
March 30th, 2011
8:05 pm
Please, pretty please, I want both the Cotton and the Chick Fil A to replace the Fiesta! This is the last hurdle prior to the Playoffs and I want the Chick Fil A Kickoff Classic be done,man!
jumbeauxtiger
March 30th, 2011
8:07 pm
bamaguy, I agree with you that Dallas may trump Atlanta which is why Stokan has been proactive in having 2 games in Atlanta on the same weekend starting in within the next few years.
E
March 30th, 2011
8:09 pm
It’s Jerry’s world. We just live in it. Cotton Bowl…
Oliver Wendell Douglas
March 30th, 2011
8:09 pm
Mr. Bradley,
If you so wish, I will be glad to sue Mr. Kimball for these scurrilous remarks on your behalf.
Lisa Douglas
March 30th, 2011
8:12 pm
Oliva, can I come with you to Atlaanta? I am so tired of Hootersville.
nick fairley
March 30th, 2011
8:12 pm
I meant hell not he’ll
Kanoacaptain
March 30th, 2011
8:15 pm
I ‘d like to see Atlanta and Dallas replace two of the current cities in the rotation.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
8:15 pm
If Atlanta wants to stay in the kickoff classic game competition, they need to drop the ACC. And I am sorry but UGA? Quit pandering to the locals. Who outside Georgia cares? The national audience will tune in to see LSU/Oregon and Alabama/Michigan, but UGA/Boise? Not so much.
skydawg
March 30th, 2011
8:15 pm
Whatever! The Cotton Bowl has been irrelevant for more than a decade. Anything Jerry Jones touches turns to hot turd pie anyway. The guy can’t even buy a championship anymore. Atlanta is the “Hub” of college football where college football really matters. It’s a no-brainer for the Chick-Fil-a. If I’m not mistaken, it has the longest sell out of all bowls outside of the Rose Bowl.
Oliver Wendell Douglas
March 30th, 2011
8:16 pm
Mr. Bradley,
I believe we have an open and shut case for libel here. Well, maybe not open and shut, but clearly open.
Well maybe not for libel, but slander. No, I think we do have a case for one or the other. Well, maybe one, not the other.
Has Mr. Kimball taken my name on the blog? Well, not TAKEN my name but using it. That’s forgery in the first degree. Well, maybe not forgery but certainly plagery.
Southern Smell
March 30th, 2011
8:17 pm
A second class city only deserves a second tier bowl. Atlanta, you deserve a third tier bowl.
5150 UOAD
March 30th, 2011
8:20 pm
The things ATLANTA has that the Jerry Jones stadium and Orlando don’t have is the ATL Airport & MARTA.
You can’t get from the Airport to the Hotel district and Stadium in the other mentioned states. A Traveling Fan can LAND. Hop on MARTA. Get to DOWNTOWN and the Game with just a SHORT & CHEAP cab ride. Try that in Dallas or ORLANDO. This Tech fan has been to the games in Orlando and the cab ride is a pain and the airport is small and a Joke.
Football Fan
March 30th, 2011
8:23 pm
I posted on CBS that Chick is the logical choice. It is located in SEC country which rules the football world financially.
Oliver Wendell Douglas
March 30th, 2011
8:23 pm
Southern Smell, that’s libel, and meet me in court.
5150 UOAD
March 30th, 2011
8:25 pm
Mark can you let me off the chain for a few months until football actually starts and see how I do Unsupervised Please. I want in the fast blogging back and forth. Please. Thanks for listening. You don’t have to post this just read it.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
8:26 pm
I have lived in Atlanta for the last 15 years. The major thing wrong with Atlanta is that it is surrounded by a third class State. Take Atlanta out of Georgia, and what is left is Mississippi but with no casinos.
SAL
March 30th, 2011
8:27 pm
Atlanta has too much PANHANDLER problem!!!
The Original WDE
March 30th, 2011
8:31 pm
Cotton Bowl.
If that doesn’t work out, rename the Chick-fil-A bowl the Peach Bowl with Chick-fil-A in front of it, and make it that.
If you haven’t noticed, the best bowls always have something simply agricultural in their name. Chick-fil-A being on New Years Eve has always been a disservice- it’s matchups are generally New Years Day worthy, no doubt.
But Cotton Bowl is the one with the most history and most geographic relevance to a Big XII-II team
jumbeauxtiger
March 30th, 2011
8:37 pm
@nick fairley
“I meant hell not he’ll”
Okay I got it now. LOL
The Original WDE
March 30th, 2011
8:45 pm
And, hey- let’s not be greedy…. we already get the 2nd biggest football game of the year in the SEC Championship every year
The Original WDE
March 30th, 2011
8:46 pm
BURN: It’s the same as a bowl game economically since it always bring out-of-state fanbases on both sides.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
8:46 pm
WDE: Using that logic maybe we should name it the Vidalia Onion bowl (actually, I kinda like that).
PMC
March 30th, 2011
8:47 pm
Ron, absolutely nothing is “wrong” with the GA dome. But in a competition…. it’s not going to win against the new stadium in Dallas.
The Original WDE
March 30th, 2011
8:51 pm
Haha, as a branded name that doesn’t sound bad at all. There’s something charming about a simple agricultural export, you don’t disagree?
But obviously logistically Valdosta is not ideal, no matter how serious the area is about football.
The Original WDE
March 30th, 2011
8:52 pm
@ bamaguy, to your earlier comment- Columbus, Macon, Augusta and especially Savannah are not bad places.
meh
March 30th, 2011
8:54 pm
given that the SEC is always in the national championship I think it would a good move to add the Chick Fil A Bowl to the BCS mix and thus in national championship rotation.
bamaguy
March 30th, 2011
9:03 pm
WDE: There is nothing wrong with Georgia or any of the cities you mention. My point was that Atlanta was being criticized as “third rate” and only Atlanta sets Georgia apart from the other southern states.
Bonus Pop Quiz: Which state is the home of the last two BCS national champions?
Steve
March 30th, 2011
9:04 pm
Bring back the name Peach Bowl …
The Original WDE
March 30th, 2011
9:10 pm
Bama, War Damn Eagle
(you may or may not appreciate the second part)
voss
March 30th, 2011
9:25 pm
I guess the spending habits gives us the reason there is no playoff system in place.
These guys have it made and have the money the grease the right pockets.
WAR EAGLE
March 30th, 2011
9:28 pm
Anyone watch that HBO special about Auburn?
just a fan
March 30th, 2011
9:39 pm
I didn’t think the special came on until 10 tonight on HBO
footballfan49
March 30th, 2011
9:40 pm
The Chic-fil-A Bowl in the BCS is a great idea as long as Tech does not have to play LSU!
just a fan
March 30th, 2011
9:40 pm
I thought the special about Auburn started at 10 on HBO
WAR EAGLE
March 30th, 2011
10:09 pm
Real Sports reporter Andrea Kremer says in the show, “there is no documentation, receipts, letters, emails proving he got the money.”
CNNSI writer Stewart Mandel asks a very important question: HBO confirmed to us they have no proof that any of these claims are true …” So I ask again, why are they running them?
Seems like some washed up ex-Auburn players are angry. HBO refused to air many other ex-Auburn stars who call McClover and the other three a bunch of liars.
Doesn’t make sense that 4 crappy ex-Auburn players would get paid but not stars like Cadillac, Brown, Campbell, Rosegreen etc..
Anyway, McClovers high school coach came out and called McClover a liar. The folks at RollBamaRoll are calling it a bunch of nothing.
ATLER (ramblin wreck)
March 30th, 2011
10:22 pm
Nice try M.B. (Loser). That bid would go to the Cotton Bowl and the 100,000 plus Cowboy Stadium.
Oliver Wendell Douglas
March 30th, 2011
10:22 pm
Enter your comments here
Wonderful-Ohio-On-The-Gulf Dog
March 30th, 2011
10:26 pm
The San Diego County Credit Union Bowl beats out the Poulan Weed Eater Independence Bowl as a hokey bowl name.
SDCCUB’s digs are better, however. Even after last year’s torrential rains in SoCal, December in San Diego beats anytime in Bossier City.
Savannah
March 30th, 2011
10:30 pm
Build a stadium here….best city in the South….as fun as NO, cleaner than ATL…make the new Shrimp Bowl a part of the BCS!
get real
March 30th, 2011
10:47 pm
Come on man. It will be the Cotton Bowl, it has more history and a bigger much better stadium. Just say it out loud….Rose, Orange, Sugar, Chi-fil-a??? First thing they need to do is change that awful name. It sounded much better when it was called the Peach Bowl. Corporate sponsors screw up everything!
Dawg Tired
March 30th, 2011
10:50 pm
Cut $33,000,000,000 hmm…. We are already in debt 14,000,000,000,000 and we are headed for a deficit in just 2011 of 1,200,000,000,000.
Let’s see isn’t that kind of like I’m $14,000 in debt to my car and headed to the shop for a $1,200 repair and I think that skipping my $2.75 morning bagel once a month is going to make a difference. Let’s try to be serious here…
Above comment was posted on ABC website in reference to the sorry lot in Congress debating on how much to reduce borrowing (aka budget deal).
ozzfest
March 30th, 2011
11:02 pm
NOTE NEW LOCATION OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME : ATLANTA
FORMER LOCATION : SOUTH BEND
THE PEACH BOWL SHOULD GET THE BCS GAME.
THE PROXIMITY OF THE DOME TO DOWNTOWN, MARTA, AND CENTENNIAL PARK IS A MUCH BETTER SET UP THAN THE GLENDALE, AZ DOME OR THE COWBOYS STADIUM.
blazerdawg
March 30th, 2011
11:02 pm
I suggest that the NCAA consider rotating the BCS Championship Game to sites beyond the BCS Bowls. I would love to see the CG played in:
Atlanta (center of CFB, great infrastructure and hospitality)
Tampa (great weather and stadium)
Jacksonville (great CFB history)
Los Angeles (in the Coliseum)
San Diego (awesome weather and town)
or even Dallas (just because of the stadium facility).
I would expect it would be great for college football to play the CG in Indianapolis, Denver or NYC.
Why should it be limited to the Rose, Sugar, Orange and Fiesta. If you are going to do that, then just rotate it between the Rose and Orange, where the weather and scene if great for CFB.
I love the history of the Sugar, but without the SEC Champ tie-in it has become a very mediocre bowl.
D Falcons
March 30th, 2011
11:08 pm
It would great to see a BCS game come to Atlanta, considering our history with the SEC Championship the ChickFilA Kickoff Classic, the Sugar Bowl after Katrina, and of course the Peach/ChickFilA bowl; however, don’t forget about that big
amusement parkstadium owned by Jerry Jones and the attraction of its 100,000 suites and suites.D Falcons
March 30th, 2011
11:10 pm
“100,000 seats and suites”
The Carnivore
March 30th, 2011
11:54 pm
The Cotton Bowl is obvious. And while the Georgia Dome itself is a fine structure, it is located in a hellish location, which should preclude it from hosting any major bowl game. The entire bowl system needs to be scrapped, by the way.
DezNutz
March 31st, 2011
1:42 am
Bamaguy, without Atlanta, Georgia is Alabama. But without Birmingham, Alabama is Mississippi.
P. Bull Terrier
March 31st, 2011
1:57 am
Mark, you met John Junker? What did he give you? Cash? A cruise? A friendly lady of the evening?
C’mon, man. Junker gave something of value to everyone he ever met. Tell us what you got.
Mark Bradley`s Booster
March 31st, 2011
6:04 am
Mark: Good points as usual. The Chic-Fil-A bowl has evolved from one that almost failed to the highly successful status it has now. I say this because I remember back when it was played in Fulton County Stadium in mostly terrible weather conditions. One year, when GT played Purdue, Pepper Rodgers wife helped to almost give away tickets to get people to come. Now its a sellout every year.
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Buckeye
March 31st, 2011
7:41 am
Cotton Bowl. New Year’s history and JerryWorld. No contest.
I’d be curious to see the ratings………….
Joe
March 31st, 2011
7:48 am
Why in the world would they put the chick fil as BCS….yes, the bowl is great and well deserving…problem is….it’s in Atlanta home of moron sportswriters like you- yeah- third rate sportswriters that do nothing but bash and stir the pot…..and you wonder why they would not want to come to atlanta???…..nuf said!
Obama in 2002
March 31st, 2011
8:23 am
Toppling Brutal Dictator a ‘Dumb War’
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Shug
March 31st, 2011
8:27 am
Right now every writer in every city that has a minor bowl is writing that his city’s bowl has a shot at BCS status. I live in the Wash. DC area and around here, believe it or not, all the sports talk radio stations are opining that the Military Bowl (or whatever it is called) might be the next major bowl. For those who are not familiar with it, the Military Bowl is one year old and is played in the DC area.
The story writes itself.
5150 UOAD
March 31st, 2011
8:35 am
It should have the name changed. It should be The PEACH BOWL brought to you by Chick-fil-A.
Dallas was so impressive with the snow and Ice this year wasn’t it? Dallas didn’t do any better than Atlanta a few years back with a Bad Weather Super Bowl.
The BCS Bowl game should be the first SATURDAY NIGHT after Jan. 1st. All bowl games, but the BCS Championship Game, should be over after Jan. 1st too.
NoleinDC
March 31st, 2011
8:53 am
It should be the chickfila…The SEC and some ACC schools, FSU being one have just a big of following and base as any big 12 school….ACC vs SEC in the BCS would be awesome..
YardDawg
March 31st, 2011
9:26 am
Jerry Jones will get the Cotton Bowl (at his new “palace) added to the BCS rotation to replace the Fiesta.
gdawginkalamazoo
March 31st, 2011
9:32 am
If they build a Chick-Fil-A in West Michigan THEN they will get my vote. Damn fine bowl game, I attended when it was in Fulton Co. stadium and the Goergia Dome, but right now I can go buy Cotton candy down at the grocery store so they get my vote. Now if the chicken sandwhiches are somehow made available? I would campaign for the Chick-Fil-A bowl.
5150 UOAD
March 31st, 2011
9:32 am
Shug you could be correct, but ATLANTA has had a bowl forever. Atl offers some huge advantages over other smaller bowl cities. The economics of Atlanta, MARTA, the Dome, TV stations (atlanta studios and equipment), and the Heart of COLLEGE FOOTBALL should move Atlanta to the top 3 on the list. Washington is to expensive. Atlanta is about to have the new College Football Hall of Fame. Since they play the game on a F..ed up Monday night Atl makes since too. After the game pack your crap hop on MARTA to the airport and BAM you are on your way back home fast and easy.
PMC
March 31st, 2011
10:04 am
This all being said….. why not Vegas?
Excuse to build a new stadium…..
Mike Bobo 17 INT
March 31st, 2011
10:07 am
I actually think Cordele Georgia or Pittsview Alabama is a better location for a national championship game. The food is good, the atmosphere is laid back and there is plenty of parking. Besides, the spaceship at the Mcdonalds in Cordele is always a fan favorite, along with cow chip tossing, cow tipping and pig wrestling.
Rip Van Winkle
March 31st, 2011
10:17 am
Wake up Mark you are in another extended dream! It will move to Jerry World.
Rip Van Winkle
March 31st, 2011
10:18 am
Wake up Bradley, you are in another extended dream.
TweetyBird
March 31st, 2011
10:26 am
Pretty sure this is what Jerry Jones had in mind.
dawg gone
March 31st, 2011
10:33 am
Mark it would be fine in the Dome…except BSC caliber teams would be very hesitant to come play a game within 3 miles or so of the home of the High School Offense they fear contamination!
shankit
March 31st, 2011
10:33 am
bamaguy,
you ever listen to the Paul Fienbaum Sports Channel radio talk show?
Classic yesterday by a Bama call in listener,
“I’m confused why Auburn still has an engineering school,
there ain’t even hardly any trains left.”
The Cotton Bowl is .........
March 31st, 2011
10:35 am
Most on this site are too young to fully grasp the fact that the Cotton Bowl is truly one of college football’s more storied bowl venues. As such, it should rejoin the elites with the new stadium. Without a doubt, the Cotton Bowl is the logical choice for BCS status.
The Chic Fil A is on a roll and will not be left out. They are usually sell outs and that is what it is all about. Historically, it does not come close to the Cotton Bowl ……………. college football is about tradition, albeit $$ traditions. The Cotton has that long standing tradition and their new digs can take it to a new level.
shankit
March 31st, 2011
10:42 am
My favorite Cotton Bowl game is when John A.
Lastinger, Georgia, scored the winning touchdown against
Texas, knocking them out of contention for the NC.
There is a lot of tradition there.
ugaclassof2004
March 31st, 2011
10:52 am
To answer your question: No
The Chic Fil A is historically one of the better non-BCS bowl games, and I wouldn’t want to see the match ups watered down like how most of the BCS games are now( seeing the SEC pummel Big East or Mountain West teams in the Sugar Bowl makes me want to puke! And thanks to Alabama who completely no showed vs. Utah a couple years ago, it looks like we will be treated to more of these “David vs. Goliath” matchups! Hurray!!)
Another thing I like about the Chic Fil A is that it is usually on New Years Eve, which is a GREAT way to ring in the new year! Atlanta gets enough exposure with the SEC title game, which is also better than the vast majority of the BCS match ups! I say don’t mess with the formula.
dawg gone
March 31st, 2011
10:58 am
Hey anyone notice Tony Barnhart is not on the AJC anymore and idea what is up with that?
1eyedJack
March 31st, 2011
11:00 am
They should kick the Rose Bowl out of the BCS. Those guys don’t want to play well with others. Some crappy Big 10/Pac 10 matchups the last few years.
gdawginkalamazoo
March 31st, 2011
11:08 am
shankit, what time is it in Texas? 10-9.
shankit
March 31st, 2011
11:19 am
10-9 is right, Eastern standard.
shankit
March 31st, 2011
11:20 am
Make that South Eastern standard.
Delbert D.
March 31st, 2011
11:22 am
Fiesta or Orange bowl replacement: The Georgia Dome, The Peach Bowl and dump the Chick-fil-A sponsorship.
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March 31st, 2011
11:33 am
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TPNoGa
March 31st, 2011
11:42 am
I could see the Fiesta Bowl on the outs because of the un-PC immigration law. Arizona has battled the PC police many times before (lost a Super Bowl due to MLK Day). With the current scandal, I think the Fiesta is toast and Cotton is in. I have been to Jerry World, it is an amazing stadium, well deserving of a BCS game.
TPNoGa
March 31st, 2011
11:44 am
Hey Daba Doo Doo Dawg, Liberty Bowl ain’t so nice either, well except maybe for UCF…HA HA HA!!
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March 31st, 2011
11:47 am
TPNoGa
I guess us losing to UCF was like you guys losing to Fresno State in the Emerald Nutcase Bowl a few years back. LOSER!
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March 31st, 2011
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David Granger
March 31st, 2011
11:50 am
Not gonna happen. Fiesta Bowl will get a good finger-shaking and be put on double secret probation…but they won’t lose BCS status. The way the BCS bowls are now…Orange, Sugar, Fiesta, and Rose…is a nice arrangement in being rather evenly divided across the country. (Sorry, Rust Belt…you don’t really count.) Take away the Fiesta and add the Peach Bowl (yeah, yeah, yeah…it’s STILL the Peach Bowl to me), and you’d have three out of four BCS bowls in SEC territory. And that ain’t gonna happen.
TPNoGa
March 31st, 2011
11:52 am
I am a GATOR, who enjoys the annual beatdown of the puppies.
3DawgKnight
March 31st, 2011
11:58 am
Hey Mark, what’s the chance that this whole Fiesta Fiasco is the beginning of the end for the bowl system and will lead to a playoff? If the IRS gets involved in this thing, they will probably expand their investigation and look at the other bowls as well.
Buckeye
March 31st, 2011
12:08 pm
Perhaps the BCS will tag the Liberty Bowl.
Good ‘Cue, SEC schools play in it, Southern hospitality, fine team hotel, Elvis tours…….sounds like a destination!
Delbert D.
March 31st, 2011
12:31 pm
As long as we are stuck with the BCS and their widespread money-grubbing corruption, fans don’t have a chance. I don’t see how the conferences put up with schools losing money to play in bowls (even the non-BCS minor bowls.) Example: The Bowl Committees sock the schools with full-price tickets for the bands to attend. Got to have a playoff to end all of this crapola.
dawg gone
March 31st, 2011
12:35 pm
TPNoGa the time has come for you to experience a little disappointment in your life…
question?
March 31st, 2011
12:37 pm
to the UGA idiot poking fun at a bowl game GT lost in 2007 you do realize UGA lost to UCF last season
dawg gone
March 31st, 2011
12:41 pm
question? but Bug we beat you and have won most of our bowls the last decade…how many bowls has Bug Village won in the last decade?? Do you realize you have won 1 of 10 vs UGA do you?
Derek
March 31st, 2011
1:03 pm
I expect the Cotton Bowl to replace the Fiesta. The Chick-Fil-a Bowl would need to change its name back to the Peach Bowl before its seriously considered.
DRRH
March 31st, 2011
1:05 pm
New BCS bowls:
Rose
Sugar
Cotton (replacing Fiesta)
Peach (replacing Orange)
Big money to be made by adding the Cotton and Peach.
The Chick-fil-A bowl remains untouched, still played on December 31st with SEC vs. ACC.
gdawginkalamazoo
March 31st, 2011
1:15 pm
Yes it has to be a fruit or commodity in order to be a BCS bowl. A BCS bowl cannot be named after small farm animals..
PonGT
March 31st, 2011
1:44 pm
I would love it … it already is one of the most exciting bowl games of the season, which translates into one of the better games each year, unlike those of the current BCS formula and those who play on and after New Year’s day! Go Chick-fil-A!
Navigator
March 31st, 2011
1:46 pm
I’d like to see the Peach/Chic-fil-a bowl become the home of ACC #2 and SEC #2, and as FSU rebounds into the top 10, with VTech and later Miama, plus the times when one of the other schools rise to the top, this would annually put two top 10’s together. Again this only happens with enough money and a move January, both of which aren’t likely to happen.
T3
March 31st, 2011
2:03 pm
I agree with earlier posts about the need to change the name back to the PEACH BOWL.
Are the TOP TIER bowls named for a prodict or service. No.
Bowls named after “preoducts or services” such as:
Capital Oone Bowl
Outback Bowl
R+L Carriers Bowl
Meineke Bowl
Emerald Nut Bowl
All of them really dont have the same “premium” perception
that helps them be perceied as a Top Tier bowl.
Peach Bowl
Gator Bowl
Rose Bowl
Orange Bowl
Tangerine Bowl
All have a stable name and concept. No “sponsor of the week” bowl name.
The Chik-Fil-A bowl would solidly elevate its status if it went back to the “Peach Bowl.”
BTW, any bowl game in the Washngton, DC area should
officially be called the “Toilet Bowl.”
Because thats where our elected officials are sending our tax money.
Boise Dawg
March 31st, 2011
2:13 pm
Given the conference affiliations and how they sort of geographically align with the BCS bowl sites, the Chick-fil-A bowl has no chance of becoming a BCS bowl, unless it would be replacing the Sugar Bowl. Since the Fiesta Bowl has served as the Big 12 bowl game, it seems logical that the Cotton would be the most likely replacement since it is located in Texas.
T3
March 31st, 2011
2:15 pm
I say, move the Orange Bowl to Orlando, ASAP.
Good stadium at Joe Robbie, but City of Miami (FTL)sucks,
and it’s a long trip to get there.
Orlando is a better city, has better logistics & travel access,
and Disney World / EPCOT / Universal and everything else is close by.
These and many more great reasons are why lots more sports fans
would WANT to travel to Orlando in late December or early January,
even if their team isnt playing for a Natl Championship.
Lots more fans from almost any location or conference would find it
much more desirable to travel to Orlando than to Miami.
Also, how come the Georgia Dome doesnt host more than just one single bowl game.
Why not at least 2 each year?
Footballrules
March 31st, 2011
2:49 pm
It’ll never replace anything if they don’t change the name back to PEACH BOWL. Can you imagine the Rose Bowl doing something like that? THEY JUST DON’T GET IT.
question?
March 31st, 2011
3:34 pm
dawg gone
what does uga’s record against GT have to do with GT playing Fresno state?
‘Bug Village’? What are you? 8?
Einsteindawg
March 31st, 2011
4:35 pm
It should have initially been the Cotton Bowl rather than Fiesta. Maybe Junker slid a little money to the BCS to get in the loop…but, it’s always about the money.
joe
March 31st, 2011
4:51 pm
As much as I would NOT want to give Jerry Jones another “something” I have to agree on giving it to Arlington and the Cotton Bowl. After all, it was the 4th biggie until stadium conditions warranted a change. Bring it back.
BTW How did the Fiesta Bowl trump all the others that came before it??
Chris
March 31st, 2011
5:32 pm
If I remember it correctly, the Cotton Bowl was always one of the big 4, until the mid/late 80s when the Southwest Conference disolved and the Fiesta Bowl snuck in by offering the first million dollar payout.
PTC DAWG
March 31st, 2011
5:41 pm
Why would the Peach Bowl want this? They sell out EVERY year now. Get in the BCS rotation and you’ll get Uconn/BC every 2 years.
dawg4u
March 31st, 2011
6:17 pm
Either the old Seattle Bowl or the Emerald Bowl. It would be nice if there was a stadium built in Savannah and it could be called the Forrest Gump Shrimp Bowl plus UGA-FLA. could alternate playing in Jacksonville one year and Savannah the next.
wxwax
March 31st, 2011
6:56 pm
I’m rooting for the whole rotten system to implode.
College football is so corrupt it’s unseemly to be a suitor for a bowl game and a system which perpetuates and encourages avarice and deceit.
rw
March 31st, 2011
6:56 pm
As others have mentioned, the geography doesn’t work for either the Chick-fil-A or Capital One bowl since the Fiesta hosts the Big 12 champ. The short term problem for the Cotton is that ESPN has the BCS TV contract, but FOX has the Cotton Bowl contract.
My guess is that the BCS keeps the Fiesta through the end of this round of TV contracts, but then changes to the Cotton.
The Chick-fil-A bowl’s best chance is if the next round of TV negotiations leads to a plus one format and a fifth bowl is added.
gator meat
March 31st, 2011
7:08 pm
don’t make the chik-fil-a bowl a BCS bowl. Then there is now way UGA will ever get to play in the Ga Dome….apart from kickoff classics!
17 out of 20…..
AtlantaNative62
March 31st, 2011
7:34 pm
I have been to a number of “Peach” Bowls over the last 15 years and they are always great games (with the exception of Tech’s stinker with LSU). I just don’t see how it gets better than the GA Dome and Atlanta. Yes, I’m a homey but I’m also hard on things in this city. If they take an honest and in-depth look, the Peach (it will always be the Peach for me) is a fantastic bowl all the way around.
51WTGW50
March 31st, 2011
8:26 pm
Why no coverage of the NIT championship with BAMA?
51WTGW50
March 31st, 2011
8:30 pm
BAMA is TRYING to make SHAKA look better than he is. VCU’s kids are Bama’s Grant recruits. Bama is in the NIT championship and VCU is in the FINAL FOUR. SHAKA ZULU ain’t nothing. GRANT is the MAN that built both teams(BAMA & VCU).
51WTGW50
March 31st, 2011
8:40 pm
Atlantanative62
15 years? Give me a break. You never sat in Fulton County Stadium for the PEACH Bowl, the Super Bowl of Motocross, the FEW Falcon playoff games.
The DOME may not seat all that want to be at the BCS/MNC game but so the F…. WHAT. The ATL airport and MARTA make the DOME a GREAT BCS game host.
money talks
March 31st, 2011
11:34 pm
Atlanta needs a huge, state of the art outdoor stadium to get the BCS bowl game. It will cost taxpayers $800 million, but it will be worth in additional sales tax for restaurants and hotels. Just raise property taxes and income taxes for a few years to pay for it.
Joe Tess Fish House
April 1st, 2011
6:42 am
No way do peeple want to come to downtown ATL 4 a game with all the crime and thugs and queers.
coachx
April 1st, 2011
8:36 am
Common sense says ts the Cotton Bowl with Jerry Jones super stadium to fill the spot.
North Avenue Ned
April 1st, 2011
9:27 am
So, whatever happened to the “Poulan Weed Eater Bowl” anyway?
Fan Since '66
April 1st, 2011
9:28 am
Hey Tess, did you miss that line about “consecutive sellouts?”
schmeckdawg
April 1st, 2011
9:52 am
This would be AWESOME; however, they would need to re-incorporate “The Peach Bowl” back into the name!
Just like they had before. The Chik-Fil-A Peach Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How cool for Atlanta! The SEC Championsip and a BCS Bowl game. Big bucks for the ATL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gator Mike
April 1st, 2011
10:40 am
Does anyone know when Tony Barnhart will get back in the fray? Thanks.
51WTGW50
April 1st, 2011
10:46 am
Gator Mike Tony will be back ONLY ONLY if his radio contract lets him and that will be when College football really starts.
Crimson Logging Co.
April 1st, 2011
11:25 am
What about the Toomers.com Arbor Day Bowl in Auburn Alabama?
Crimson Logging Co.
April 1st, 2011
11:26 am
Pay to Play – The AU Way
Crimson Logging Co.
April 1st, 2011
11:29 am
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
Just like there will be in the fireplaces of homes all around Auburn next winter when you burn those toilet papered logs.
The NCAA is coming to shut you down.
Crimson Logging Co.
April 1st, 2011
11:31 am
There will be some more mail in the AU coaching staff’s office soon, but this time it will be pink slips, not cash filled envelopes.
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Crimson Logging Co.
April 1st, 2011
11:32 am
AU and UT getting raided at the same time. Christmas in April.
tony masella
April 1st, 2011
12:51 pm
jerry world (arlington ) all the way yes atlanta deserves it just as much when they decide to build a outdoor stadium w/natural grass in gwinett county
BRW
April 1st, 2011
1:43 pm
No way the former PEACH bowl gets it. I went to the Dome two years ago for the bowl game and was absolutely embarassed for my city/state at what they did for half time, pre-game, etc. They must have pumped every bit of 100 dollars into the “festivities”. What a joke. It reminded me of my high school band days.
Ben
April 1st, 2011
1:56 pm
Gotta consider location. Taking out Fiesta and replacing it with the Chick-Fil-A puts three BCS bowls all in the Southeast, and two in SEC venues, something the rest of the country wont be happy about
Delbert D.
April 1st, 2011
2:17 pm
The Emerald Bowl is no more. Became the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl.
Delbert D.
April 1st, 2011
2:22 pm
BRW – How far did you expect a sponsor who is an Evangelical to go? Dancing girls and Hip-Hop music?
BRW
April 1st, 2011
2:56 pm
Delbert, That’s what was most embarassing of all! What you just stated WAS the show! At one point there were at least 100 basically 90%-naked 15 year old girls (read “un-paid from jr. high”) on the field, shaking body parts they didn’t even have to begin with. And that was the high-light of the “festivities”. Just in poor taste and totally amaturish. Not Evangelical, just trashy.
Don
April 1st, 2011
3:36 pm
I am ready for 8 reason why the braves won’t squander this lead Bradley you doofus.
Arizona Dawg
April 1st, 2011
3:53 pm
Kick the Fiesta to the curb, Junker is an embarassment to himself, college football, etc.. What a total self absorbed asshole. But what I really want is for Chick-Fil-A to do the right thing and bring back the name of the Peach Bowl. They were wrong to ask for it to be dropped and whoever agreed to get rid of the name Peach Bowl should be run out of Atlanta.
Georgia Son
April 1st, 2011
3:59 pm
I want Truett Cathy to do the right thing and rename it the Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl. They should have never asked for the name Peach to be dropped and who ever agreed to it should be run out of town. To dismiss all of those previous bowl years for a few bucks you and Chick-Fil-A should be ashamed. I know it does not matter but I have not eaten at a Chick-Fil-A since that happened. Bring back the Peach Bowl!!
Shine Time
April 1st, 2011
5:33 pm
How about the Midpoints Station Freeloader Bowl? The city can invite a bunch of the rif raf that hang around outside the 5 points marta station all day and provide them with some smokes, booze and drugs, then have them act as “greeters” for the big time bowl officials in town.
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April 1st, 2011
5:38 pm
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Joe Tess Fish House
April 1st, 2011
6:21 pm
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Mo Money
April 1st, 2011
9:15 pm
To get the BCS title game, the city will nee a much bigger stadium than the old, worn out ga dome, and it will have to have a lot more suites, corporate boxes, etc. to entertain all the fatcats who come to the game.
Fire Mark Richt
April 2nd, 2011
1:36 pm
Having a major bowl named the “Chick-fil-A Bowl” would be appropo for the times, but I’m hoping the Cotton Bowl gets restored to its rightful place as a major bowl. It’s recent second-tier status sort of diminishes all the classics games from the old days that had national title implications, like Georgia’s 10-9 win over Texas after the ‘83 season.
tyger78
April 4th, 2011
3:19 pm
No way in hell will the Capital One Bowl be in there. That stadium is a piece of crap.
King Gator
April 4th, 2011
10:18 pm
What about the Liberty Bowl….and losing to UCF… now that’s big time! Go Gators!
Disney
April 5th, 2011
11:25 pm
How about the disney bowl in orlando’s stadium. Disney can spend a few hundred mil to upgrade the stadium to something good, and have all their characters at the game working the stands, selling stuff, etc.