Is Tech a bad job? Note all the Georgia products still dancing

Kevin Anderson, then of Peachtree Ridge, now a Richmond Spider. (AJC photo by Jason Getz)

Kevin Anderson, then of Peachtree Ridge, now a Richmond Spider. (AJC photo by Jason Getz)

There are those who say Georgia Tech isn’t a good job. And then we note the word “Georgia” in the school’s name. And then we note the following:

• Kevin Anderson is a Richmond guard who was the Atlantic 10’s player of the year last season and was first-team all-conference this year. He scored 25 points in the Spiders’ NCAA tournament upset of Vanderbilt and 14 against Morehead State. He’s from Atlanta. He played three years at Whitefield Academy and spent his senior year at Peachtree Ridge.

• Jeremy Lamb is a UConn wing who, as a freshman, has scored 30 points in the Huskies’ two NCAA victories. He’s from Norcross. He played at Norcross.

• Chris Singleton is a Florida State forward who returned from a broken foot to score five key points in the Seminoles’ NCAA victory against Texas A&AM and who worked 10 minutes in their upset of Notre Dame. He’s averaging 13 points. He made the all-ACC third team and the league’s all-defensive team. A junior, he’s projected as a first-round NBA draft pick. He’s from Dunwoody. He played at Dunwoody.

• Bernard James is a Florida State forward who has scored 24 points, taken 16 rebounds and blocked six shots in the Seminoles’ two NCAA victories. He didn’t play high school basketball, arriving at Florida State after a tour in the Air Force. He’s from Savannah.

• Terrance Hill is a guard at Morehead State. He scored 23 points in the Eagles’ NCAA tournament upset of Louisville. Hill is from Columbus, Ga. He played at Jordan Vocational High.

Those are five examples of why Tech, far from being a bad job, is actually a very good one. Of the above, only Singleton was a McDonald’s All-American. (Anderson chose Richmond over Appalachian State.) Yet all have played key roles in the latest installment of the Big Dance.

(And this doesn’t count non-NCAA participants Marshon Brooks of Providence, who’s from Tucker and who led the Big East in scoring, or Andrew Goudelock of the College of Charleston, who’s from Stone Mountain and who ranks fifth in the nation in scoring.)

If you’re a coach considering a job, the first thing you ask is, “Can I get to the NCAA there?” You can get there at Georgia Tech. You don’t even have to sign a one-and-done every year to do it. There are enough good players produced in this state to stock a competitive ACC team on a yearly basis. You can watch several of them play the next two nights.

By Mark Bradley

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SOUTH GA DAWG FAN

March 24th, 2011
11:19 am

SOUTH GA DAWG FAN

March 24th, 2011
11:20 am

YES!! and it counts

juvenal

March 24th, 2011
11:22 am

Paul H

March 24th, 2011
11:22 am

juvenal

March 24th, 2011
11:25 am

look at Christian’s wonderlic, & where he was considered a “scholar”……

Chuck Sheen

March 24th, 2011
11:25 am

DUH. Jay Bilas called the Tech job the best available job in College Basketball. He’s probably one, if not the, most respected college basketball analyst today.

Me

March 24th, 2011
11:25 am

Lets face it, Paul Hewitt was just terrible. The talent in GA is some of the best in the nation. UGA and GT fail to keep the kids in state.

UGA_2001

March 24th, 2011
11:26 am

None of these guys want to go to tech and be a nerd the rest of their lives. They’re not as dumb as Julian Royal.

PureEvil

March 24th, 2011
11:26 am

Mark
Do you think GT is a top 25 job?

5150 UOAD

March 24th, 2011
11:26 am

Hewitt’s recruiting KILLED Tech. A good coach can win and go to the DANCE easily at TECH. Funny that a lot of teams still playing are doing it with TEAMs of players not the 1 & Dones.

tbaker1970

March 24th, 2011
11:30 am

I don’t really see how this proves GT is a great job.

Actually, it seems to suggest the opposite.

Why does all of this local talent go to play elsewhere? Could it be because there is something about GT that is not attractive to them? (too close to home, too tough academically, name your reason).

There is ample historical evidence that GT can get to the NCAA tournament – as recently as last year.

That doesn’t mean it will be easy for Hewitt’s successor, whoever that winds up being.

5150 UOAD

March 24th, 2011
11:31 am

UGA_2001 you are one of the cool kids right?

Mark Bradley

March 24th, 2011
11:36 am

Kudos, SGDF.

TommyJack

March 24th, 2011
11:37 am

Dawg fans should be banned from bb discussionns. Period.

Angus

March 24th, 2011
11:41 am

The Tech job will only be as good as the next coach makes it. There will be plenty of opportunities and obstacles for him. Hewitt showed us how high the highs can be and, of course, how low the lows can be.

El Bravo

March 24th, 2011
11:41 am

tbaker, they go to play elsewhere for two reasons: academics or Tech did not offer them. Believe it or not, for all of Hewitt’s flaws he was one heck of a recruiter. The same could be said for Bobby Cremmins who had a pipeline to the New York basketball market. If only Hewitt had been an above average coach…

5150 UOAD

March 24th, 2011
11:43 am

Anybody know what Bama is doing in the NIT? I think the UGA basketball players are playing X-box and dreaming of the NBA. Bama is getting more great game experience. The NCAA picked the wrong SEC team for the DANCE. UGA was 10-10 in their last 20 games.

El Bravo

March 24th, 2011
11:44 am

Tech already has a ton of talent, what it doesn’t have is coaching….

Paul in RDU

March 24th, 2011
11:45 am

tbaker1970
CPH brought in 3 local kids in the same class only 2 years ago – Udofia, Rice Jr and Favors. Local kids will go to GT.

Really??

March 24th, 2011
11:45 am

TommyJack UGA banned from BB topics? We own u in that sport too. I hate to see Hewitt go. He was the Reggie Ball of Basketball

collegeballfan

March 24th, 2011
11:48 am

Damn good point Bradley!

Georgia is one of the best recruiting areas in the country.

There is no reason both GT and UGA cannot make a living on Georgia players.

mountain_jim

March 24th, 2011
11:48 am

GT’s available degrees are too heavily biased toward Science and Engineering to recruit a broad variety of players for. The one-and-dones don’t care as they are not going there for a degreed future anyway.

I am a Tech alumni, and it’s a great education value if that’s the area of interest you have for your future. I’ve been away awhile though. Have they added some new Sports Business or other watered-down degree programs other than Industrial Management to park the atheletes in?

juvenal

March 24th, 2011
11:48 am

2001, some one is too dumb to be a nerd if they are dumb-non sequiter, we rest our case regarding the non-lucidity of most daug fans, hopefully sycophants & not alums…..

PMC

March 24th, 2011
11:49 am

Ugh, REALLY headline writer? REALLY?

Being the head basketball coach at Georgia Tech is a tremendous job. You’re right in the middle of one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in America. You have one of the formost collegiate institutes in the entire nation as the school there and you have an excellent basketball history.

Not only that, they like basketball SO much, they are paying an underperforming coach 7 million dollars to go away because they know they can do better.

Um. Yeah, it’s a pretty freaking fantastic job really.

SOUTH GA DAWG FAN

March 24th, 2011
11:49 am

this proves tech could be a great job there is talent all over Georgia , and if the talent can be convinced to stay in state there is no reason both schools shouldn’t dance every year especially tech since they are in the ACC

juvenal

March 24th, 2011
11:49 am

jim-singular is alumnus/alumna)

PMC

March 24th, 2011
11:53 am

You cannot sell me that there are not terriffic basketball players in this area that cannot pass at tech and get a great science or engineering or business or computer degree and play great basktball.

We expect too little, far too little of our athletes if this is so.

The Patterson kid from Tucker…one of the best linebackers in the nation….going to Stanford, why? To be an Architect. He could do that at GT as well. OF course Atlanta is not Palo Alto, but this idea that they have to recruit one and done is a fallacy.

There are plenty of smart talented kids that can be recruited to play at GT. They just haven’t had good enough players in the last 6 years for any consistant length of time.

PureEvil

March 24th, 2011
11:59 am

We own u in that sport too.

GT 101 – UGA 86

tbaker1970

March 24th, 2011
12:00 pm

OK, so some local kids will go to GT. Others won’t.

Same can be said of almost any college in America.

Still don’t much of a correlation between that fact and the overall quality of the GT job. Unless there is some barrier to recruiting from other cities / states that I don’t know about. So GT should only recruit local players?

OK, sure local talent level matters. But there are lots of other reasons why a job may be good or bad beyond the subjective talent level in the local area.

However, this article suggests that GT is a good job primarily because there are a lot of area players still in the NCAA tournament.

The logic is thin.

GT Dude

March 24th, 2011
12:00 pm

Mark,
you are simply demonstrating just how bad Tech needed to change coaches…
GT Dude

Paul in RDU

March 24th, 2011
12:04 pm

PureEvil, @11:59
You obviously don’t understand some Dawgs’ ideas of time.
UGA vs GT in basketball – only last 2 years count. At a stretch, the last 11 years (with CPH)
UGA vs UF in football – you have to take into account the entire series and can’t judge it on the last 20 years
UGA vs ALA in football – only last 10 years count *UGA is 3-1 under CMR) – you ignore the entire series record and especially the most recent – “Blackout Game”

Gordon

March 24th, 2011
12:04 pm

Mark,

Between Mooney and Marshall, who would you choose and why?

Do you think WSU’s season not being complete until March 31st (possibly 29th if they lose in the NIT semis) would point Radakovich towards Mooney in order to meet his final four timeline goal?

Tech75

March 24th, 2011
12:04 pm

Within the last week (unfortunately I can’t remember where I read it, perhaps someone can remind me) there was a nice, pointed article about the decline in USA basketball from a tactical and technical viewpoint – that international teams and coaches implement approaches that teach the game far better than the fragmented and scattergun approach used in the USA – leading to situations where international teams with far less “talent” are capable of running rings around our USA “playground gods”.

Every year you see a “cinderella” team seemingly come out of nowhere to go deep in the NCAA tournament; and you also see perennials like Duke, NC, and Kansas typically go deep. All of these teams that have repeatable success are built from solid fundamentals, and they are disciplined. “Cinderellas” typically are big surprises to many of us, but to those that know the way the game should be played, are not that much of a surprise – like Butler.

I’d like to see players coming in that actually understand how to play the game, and have good fundamentals – not players that have excelled because they have a 48″ vertical or they can simply overpower their opposition.

And that’s NOT what I have seen among most of the players brought in by Hewitt. Hopefully the next coach will understand that you CAN win with less-than-NBA-quality players, if they are disciplined, tenacious, and know the game. Recruiting “selfless” rather than “selfish” players is always the key to having a REAL team.

T-Bone

March 24th, 2011
12:11 pm

Simply sign the 3 kids from the ATL area and you’ve the makings of a pretty good team.

5150 UOAD

March 24th, 2011
12:13 pm

Tech75
You are going to upset HEWITT FAN. You are calling the children he worships just scatter gun playground gods. Hewitt Fan will start to keep those Atl CELTICS from Tech now.

Paul in RDU

March 24th, 2011
12:21 pm

Tech75
Here you go – an article from last year on the decline in basketball fundamentals. Some of the problems should be familiar

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204621904574248282288269744.html

realistic

March 24th, 2011
12:27 pm

Mark, you missed the Crowder kid playing at Marquette who hails from Villa Rica.

O-boy

March 24th, 2011
12:27 pm

Is it true that Mooney has two players from Atlanta on team and one signed for next year. Looks like he is already doing a good job in Atlanta area.

rxdawg79

March 24th, 2011
12:31 pm

@5150: I agree 100% about Hewitt’s recruiting. Seemed like he prized the one-and-dones instead of a good, solid team approach. However, I’ve wondered if that was because he thought he couldn’t get enough players to make it through 3-4 years of Tech academics. Or did he think he could keep getting the superstar one-and-done (aka the Calipari System) with enough regularity that he could get Tech back into the Final Four.

Care to share your thoughts on this? Thanks.

TomB

March 24th, 2011
12:31 pm

So, maybe Hewitt wasn’t such a great recruiter after all. If it wasn’t grades, how do you miss on all these guys? Go figure.

Demon Dribbler

March 24th, 2011
12:34 pm

Maybe it’s just me but it seems the only people who think that the Tech b’ball gig is one of the top in the country are alums and the local media. An honest look would reveal that it’s not even in the upper half of the ACC much less a top job in the country. Time for Tech fans to get real, it’s better than average but nowhere near the place that it’s fans think.

5150 UOAD

March 24th, 2011
12:38 pm

rxdawg79
I think he was so wrapped-up in the Atl CELTICS and thought he could keep getting the All Stars. If it worked out Hewitt would still be coaching TECH. I think Tech can get kids to stay in school and play for 3-4 years with no problem.

5150 UOAD

March 24th, 2011
12:40 pm

Demon Dribbler
HAHAHAHAA and your opinion is somehow better than ESPN, AJC, and SI media types?

UGA Insider

March 24th, 2011
12:41 pm

What about the kid from Villa Rica who was the #1 juinior college player in the nation last year then went to Marquett.

TomB

March 24th, 2011
12:41 pm

Demon Dribbler; You are right that lately Tech hasn’t been all that special in the ACC, but the point is that it should be better. Cremins built the program from the bottom rungs to a top three ACC team so many Tech alum and media rightly believe that Tech is capable of this kind of success. In many ways it’s a better situation than when Cremins took over because of the local talent that is now available. This wasn’t the case back in the 1980’s as Cremins had to go to NY and Oklahoma to find his talent.

rxdawg79

March 24th, 2011
12:47 pm

@Demon Dribbler: Well, I’m neither a media member nor a Tech alum, but I think it’s top job, FWIW.

There’s plenty of local talent. The ACC has shown in this year’s tourney that it’s still a premier BB conference, so Tech can offer these kids a chance to play in a great league while staying close to home. And if the players are so inclined, they might even graduate with a very nice degree (even though not too many do lately).

GTBob

March 24th, 2011
12:51 pm

Demon Dribbler, Jay Bilas said that the GT job was the best coaching job available in college basketball right now. Is he an alumni? No. Is he part of the local media? No.

JSS

March 24th, 2011
12:52 pm

@ Mark Bradley…
And thing you miss is that only Chris Singleton, Brooks, and Lamb were considered “elite” talent for the high and mighty SEC and ACC. The rest would have most likely languished behind so-called “blue chip” can’t miss talent like Dustin Ware and Mfon Udofia…

And best of luck to the Clayton State Lady Lakers as they play for a “real” NCAA National Championship in D-II on Friday night against Michigan Tech. Right under your noses, #2 in the country, and people wonder why Maya Moore took her talents to UConn…

Delbert D.

March 24th, 2011
1:00 pm

Nice slant on the article, MB.

Luke

March 24th, 2011
1:00 pm

rxdawg79,

CPH’s mantra was to recruit the best players available, regardless of intent. What’s a better sell to a young, talented recruit then living in downtown Atlanta, playing in a premier conference where you can get TONS of TV time playing against great teams like UNC, Duke, a team from the Big Ten, and go to Hawaii/Puerto Rico/Bahamas for a tournament for a year before you go to the NBA? Why go anywhere else? Thats what hurt the program is because the slightly less-talented guys that go to Richmond and wherever else don’t get second looks.