Oh, about that ‘Cam Newton tape’: Not so fast, my friends
Can anyone "authenticate" that this is actually Cam Newton? (AJC photo by Brant Sanderlin)
Yesterday we noted that Scott Moore, an Alabama entertainer, has been saying he has heard audio tapes of Cecil Newton talking about money in exchange for his famous son’s amateur services. We also noted that Moore has indicated the tapes could prove Cecil Newton’s famous son Cam had been privy to such discussions.
Today, via Sports Radio 97.7 The Zone in Huntsville, we learn that Moore isn’t sure of … well, of much of anything. From SportsByBrooks’ transcription of Moore’s appearance on Cole Cubelic’s morning show:
I’ve heard a voice on that tape that said there’s an offer for $180,000 from Auburn and this is Cecil Newton … This is what I’ve been told was Cecil Newton. I’ve never heard Cecil talk before … but I was told by those guys [Mississippi State boosters John Bond and Bill Bell] that this was Cecil talking and Kenny Rogers [another Mississippi State figure] is on these tapes as well. I’m going based on what I’ve heard.
Then this:
I’m going to play this [alleged Newton tape] on the air [of Moore's own radio show] and we’re going to talk about this on the air; then let’s get that voice authenticated.
I believe I can speak for all of us when I say: The man wants to put something on the air before having it authenticated? And he wants us to take him seriously?
Oh, and we should also note that SportsByBrooks, which does nice work, is reporting that a source “indicated that Bond and Bell have no audio file or tape containing the voice of Cecil Newton.”
Only in Alabama, kids. Only in Alabama.
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Not Disappointed!
March 2nd, 2011
7:01 pm
Oh Boy!
Tony31005
March 2nd, 2011
7:01 pm
First
Tony31005
March 2nd, 2011
7:01 pm
Dadgumit
Deez
March 2nd, 2011
7:02 pm
Yes Sir two rednecks and mudbone from tupelo MS duped Moore
What a loser
Zach
March 2nd, 2011
7:03 pm
Mark, people attack those on top to give themselves 15 seconds of fame. Who is this guy? I graduate from Auburn and I’ve never heard of this guy before.
Deez
March 2nd, 2011
7:04 pm
Liars and dumb who’re trash living un glory days don’t realize the damage the have done to their beloved MSU Bulldogs….Can u say NCAA has all evidence they need to give it to their program #novaseline
Not Disappointed!
March 2nd, 2011
7:04 pm
I wonder if it will ever end for Cam? LOL! Oh, I was first. “Who Knew?”
Deez
March 2nd, 2011
7:06 pm
Alabama cricets wildly heard amidst the absence of Alabama innuendo still LMAO
Not Don Waddell
March 2nd, 2011
7:06 pm
Why on earth would a legitimate news source (AJC? Is that really still a legit news source?) have ever talked about this to begin with? Pathetic.
collegedude
March 2nd, 2011
7:07 pm
Too much smoke not to be a fire in there somewhere. Doubt this is legit though. Will be interesting if they do try and get it authenticated.
Mark Bradley
March 2nd, 2011
7:08 pm
Kudos, Not Disappointed! And I hope you’re … er, not disappointed.
Headley Lamar
March 2nd, 2011
7:09 pm
Anyone who believes Cam didnt know about the pay for play stuff Cecil was doing is either
1. An Auburn homer
2. An idiot
Its akin to Barry Bonds saying he didnt know he was being given Steroids.
Maybe if AJ Green had just let his mom sell his jersey everything would have been ok huh?
Deez
March 2nd, 2011
7:10 pm
Mississippi State is the cheaters here is that not plainly or painfully obvious? Whom have they paid? Clearly a history of this type of behavior is previous to Cam Newton. Those rich redne ks Bell & Bond will hang ole Mudbone out there to well it is backyard Mississippi. They don’t know him! The tapes don’t exist for several reasons the first is because the can of worms of all those paid over years will gave to be answered for hmmmnn
Zach
March 2nd, 2011
7:15 pm
Headly,
What facts do YOU have that show that Cam Newton knew about the “pay for play”? If and when you were in college, did you talk to your parents everyday? Did you tell them everything that was going on with you life? Do you think that they told you everything that was going on with them? Do you think that you would tell your child if you were doing something inappropriate?
Hmmm…
Duckafawg
March 2nd, 2011
7:15 pm
It’s known that this MORON is a redneck Bama supporter…the kind that lays hands on the Bear statue before games….what a joke…again…anyone thats among the 92K at the spring game is seriously in need of a life…and no…im not an Auburn fan
Born and raised in GA
March 2nd, 2011
7:17 pm
The problem with your last line only in Alabama is that us Georgians look to the west and feel superior, look to the north (Tenn) and feel superior, look to the east (S. Carolina) and feel superior
and the fact is we are delusional if we think we are any different. The main difference is that UGA has no powerful in state rival.
Mark Bradley
March 2nd, 2011
7:18 pm
Football in Georgia is a big deal, Born and raised. But it’s a bigger deal in Alabama.
rico
March 2nd, 2011
7:18 pm
Here we go again jealousy breeds lies and lies breed ignorance. Everyone that believes this pay for play to be anything more than Cecil humoring a pathetic washout like Rogers is beyond me! Seriously, wake up y’all. Haters hate on Cam bc its what they do, envy hurts everyone especially the beholder
"Chef" Tim Dix
March 2nd, 2011
7:19 pm
On the same tape Mallet smokes pot. I swear.
Headley Lamar
March 2nd, 2011
7:20 pm
Headly,
What facts do YOU have that show that Cam Newton knew about the “pay for play”?
You fall in category 1
Auburn homer
rico
March 2nd, 2011
7:21 pm
Get a look at how Bonds and Bell castaway their former teammate. Those washed up story tellers have ruined their very own program. Laugh it up MSU
5150 UOAD
March 2nd, 2011
7:21 pm
Call when the NCAA either says there is Proof Cam did something wrong of that the investigation is over.
Mark Bradley
March 2nd, 2011
7:22 pm
I’ve said it before, but …
This whole Cam Newton saga is the strangest tale in SEC annals.
AJ
March 2nd, 2011
7:22 pm
Not sure why most try to defend Cam. Aside from stealing a lap-top at Florida and whether he left the school or was kicked out, we know this: his father attempted to sell his sons services to MissSt, where his ole recruiter, Dan Mullen (from Florida) is coaching. So I understand why he DIDN’T go to MissSt, because they didn’t pay the $180,000. Question I have is, Why did he go to Auburn? Did AU offer more money? Did they offer him at least something for his services? I don’t know, so I’m not one to say whether he was paid or not. Just don’t try to sell me that load of crap that Cam had no idea what his father was doing.
rico
March 2nd, 2011
7:22 pm
Damn it feels good to be Gangsta
Zach
March 2nd, 2011
7:23 pm
Call me whatever you want to call me Headley, but avoiding the question just reiterates your close mindedness.
rico
March 2nd, 2011
7:25 pm
As a parent we do a plenty that we hope our children never learn of. Those things are stupid, bad, good and even dangerous. Look people start acting like humans or let it eat away at you. Cam Newton besides innocence is too GOOD to be taken down. NEXT
Sandra
March 2nd, 2011
7:27 pm
This may turn out like Reggie Bush…..Cam may need to return the trophy.
What about the videos of
March 2nd, 2011
7:28 pm
What about the videos from Victoryland dog track that portay Scam and his pappy gambling in the company of hoods? Milton Mc Qwirk the track owner, is one of those thugs and he is already under FEDERAL indictment for bribery of ALbama politicans BUT will provide testimony about Scam for leniency.
AU ………………… it is coming.
FBI is on that like white on rice. THAT is not an issue that the NCAA has jursidiction over.
Pete Rose
rico
March 2nd, 2011
7:29 pm
Lets focus on the fact that Cam is everything we aspire to be as a young athlete only differen e is the chinks in his armor from stupid decisions he has made. He is a kid but honestly cast away for u will be judged first. His ability to strive basically says to all of the haters that you can’t phase me. I got news for you Cam is a Champion and you are not, hey &#$&&$ clean up on idle 6!
ganu
March 2nd, 2011
7:30 pm
Wow, I come on here eager to read a sports article and instead get insulted.
Why the bigoted closing, Mr. Bradley?
"Chef" Tim Dix
March 2nd, 2011
7:30 pm
Tex dropped Boras to become Cecil’s newest client.
Zach
March 2nd, 2011
7:30 pm
Cecil: “Cam, I just wanted to let you know that I’m selling your services to the highest bidder.”
Cam: “No way dad? Really? How much am I worth?”
Cecil: “Right now $180K!”
I’m sure the convo went something like this.
SouthGADawg
March 2nd, 2011
7:31 pm
AU is as dirty of a school as there ever has been. If there wasnt any truth to it we would not be talking about it.Noone tkes football more serious than people fron GA.
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:32 pm
heck basically WE know nothing..we have heard reports…hearsay…conjecture…not denying CM problems,,,just not hanging someone who might be innocent
Zach
March 2nd, 2011
7:33 pm
I’ve got an idea. Let’s believe everything ESPN says because they have to be right. They’re ESPN!
rollo lawson
March 2nd, 2011
7:33 pm
I bet Scott Moore is one of those “birthers” too, lol!!!!
Zach
March 2nd, 2011
7:35 pm
Two air balls in a row? Josh Powell? Really?
Vain Jangling
March 2nd, 2011
7:35 pm
Why can’t we all just get along? [Possibly channeling Rodney King]. Before this is over, all this crazy talk is going to make someone somewhere kill an innocent tree. [Hittin' below the belt! Do it again Sluggo and I'm taking a point away]. It doesn’t have to be this way. Just say no! [Gratuitous Nancy Reagan quote]… Yeah, you’re right… I’ve got too much time on my hands. And BTW, I’m not real happy with either McLouth OR Schafer in center. O.K., I’ll go now.
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:36 pm
be the jury…most of you,,including some AJC writers and sports talk radio-host report what they he haer.not what they no to be facts…sometimes they just report what they feel
vikinghorse
March 2nd, 2011
7:36 pm
Neither Moore nor SportsbyBrooks is a reliable source. The credibility of this article and everything that preceded it should be questions.
Worm
March 2nd, 2011
7:36 pm
New name for whoever drafts this clown’s offense-ConAir
Jessica
March 2nd, 2011
7:36 pm
Why don’t all you people who are about to crook leave Cam alone. You’ve stayed on this earth overtime; let Cam live his life. Good thing he’s ignoring you, you incompetent, jealous buffoons.
GT GRAD
March 2nd, 2011
7:37 pm
He AND his dad are more than likely guilty……….this is the primary reason why he left early for the NFL; if he stayed and was suspended due to NCAA findings, his NFL stock would have plummetted!
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:37 pm
do not leave early VJ..least it is not vd….some of the same concerns
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:40 pm
glad you said more than likely…not condeming just commenting…GT
UGA_2001
March 2nd, 2011
7:45 pm
So the guy was offered $180K to play at Miss St.
One thing that you and Schultz always gloss is over is why would he go to Aub if he wasn’t being paid there?
The bottom line is that Auburn stands for everything wrong with college athletics and they will get caught and punished eventually by the NCAA for this or for something else. The NCAA will lose all credibility if they let programs like Aub get away with buying championships.
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:46 pm
let’s see anybody here read the NCAA reports…anybody talked or interrogated cm or father..anybody talked to Miss. ST. ajc reporter on this article included
SSIgator
March 2nd, 2011
7:46 pm
cam newton is a total thug, thats wy florida kicked him off the team. we have too much class to let a thug like newton continue to play for us. he doesnt even no how to read
pricedawg
March 2nd, 2011
7:47 pm
Please post facts when reporting Mark. The fact of the matter is that 680 interviewed the guy yesterday and he clearly stated that for legal purposes, he was going to have the tape checked out BEFORE playing it on the radio. Another attempt for the AJC to sell papers/crap. Lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story.
SSIgator
March 2nd, 2011
7:47 pm
actually auburn is the perfect place for his thugness
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:49 pm
dude I am a die hard dawg…maybe they did …but worse is you saying you know and you DO NOT..
NOBODYYOUKNOW
March 2nd, 2011
7:49 pm
Now everyone will say “Ah aii the programs are guilty of that”. Thats because all the programs are guilty of this type crap.
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:49 pm
you would know gator
pricedawg
March 2nd, 2011
7:49 pm
S SIgator, please learn how to spell and use correct grammer. I forgot you guys were such saints down there. Go gaytors!
SID
March 2nd, 2011
7:50 pm
Let’s ALL be honest…Football at ALL schools is about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:51 pm
Ell obwahkenobie you d not no what anyones guilty of…except maybe your on past
chuck
March 2nd, 2011
7:51 pm
honestly, espn is becoming a better source of news than cnn, fox, etc. at least we are getting the news instead of 24/7 entertainment news. i don’t give a rats ass about celebrities and what brand toilet paper they use.
Bitter grassy knoll
March 2nd, 2011
7:55 pm
where theres smoke theres fire—–or in case of jfk———ask not what you can do for your country—————-ask how much money ALL–Burn can pay you—-hahahahahahah—cheap fire wood—-tumors corner—–oak trees split and stacked——hahahahaha—hill-billies—-hahahahahah
Snake Doc
March 2nd, 2011
7:56 pm
I agree with Heddy Lamar
5150 UOAD
March 2nd, 2011
7:56 pm
Sid you never heard of Duke, Wake Forest, or Vandy. Football really doesn’t make these school much money.
nick fairley
March 2nd, 2011
7:56 pm
You just kicked dog nation in the crotch, theyre going to be so mad. Theyre barely hanging on right now that Auburn is the defending national champions. picture a 6 year old who can’t hold his bladder any longer and thats dawg nation.
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:57 pm
sic..sic…sic…sic bitter azzey…knoll
kral
March 2nd, 2011
7:59 pm
i hope a future no. 1 would not lower himself
kral
March 2nd, 2011
8:02 pm
no toad Vandy…a respectable place…beyond reason,,gets a pretty good check fromSEC success…but I do believe like anyother competitoir winning an SEC champ. is their goal
kral
March 2nd, 2011
8:04 pm
i any sport…but fb…katie bar the door on supressed emotions
kral
March 2nd, 2011
8:04 pm
i any sport…but fb…katie bar the door on supressed emotions
dd
March 2nd, 2011
8:08 pm
Only in Alabama…..? Really? You should watch more sportscenter dude…..
jerry
March 2nd, 2011
8:09 pm
In Alabama the Tide is king. I don’t believe for one minute that AU can win the NC, without cheating, by picking through the recruits that were rejected by the Tide
Ekim
March 2nd, 2011
8:10 pm
People will still be marginalizing Auburn’s national championship and Cam Newton long after they’ve given up on Obama’s citizenship status.
5150 UOAD
March 2nd, 2011
8:14 pm
Does Trey Tompkins look like Damon Evans? I think he does.
The Money's Too Much
March 2nd, 2011
8:16 pm
There’s more to the story. Stay tuned.
SAL
March 2nd, 2011
8:16 pm
What do you think of the “birther” question regarding Obama???
Ann0y3d
March 2nd, 2011
8:16 pm
“Only in Alabama”…You say that as if 10-15 ‘dawgs don’t get arrested per year for everything including ramming Parking Cops’ cars and speeding away…
Nick Fairley
March 2nd, 2011
8:23 pm
jerry
March 2nd, 2011
8:09 pm
In Alabama the Tide is king. I don’t believe for one minute that AU can win the NC, without cheating, by picking through the recruits that were rejected by the Tide
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Is this Al from Dadeville. Al, in Alabama the Tide was king, 2 years ago. It only lasted a year. The Iron Bowl, SEC Championship, National Championship and Heisman belong to Auburn now. The same Auburn who has won 8 out of the last 11 Iron Bowls and the great Saban is only 50/50 in Iron Bowl wins btw.
Matty Thrice
March 2nd, 2011
8:29 pm
What most of us in the Normal World do not understand is that the people in Alabama don’t care whether Auburn & Scam cheated or not. Not even the Tide fans. Not one.
That i-dont-care-how-i-do-it-monkey-on-crack approach is bad for all of us. In an era when the SEC is dominating, no one outside a cow-town in Alabama is taking this NC seriously. Nobody. Auburn is the Moamar Qadaffi of football. “I am King! I am still King! People love me!” Yeah, you’re a “I-Con” alright.
G
March 2nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Bradley are you related to the Newton’s? You sure do write a lot of articles on them. I think everyone seems to have begun to move on maybe you should too?
Paul N Destin
March 2nd, 2011
8:30 pm
The John Bond/Cam/Cecil is small change for where this thing is going. The old drunk of a coach started up his buying players once Saban came to town. AU is going down and they damn sure deserve. The hire of the ghetto twins told you everything from day one. Cheezestaw was hired as a pawn and he’s not apart of the scheme but was hired so he would allow the others to handle the dirty work.
Carlton
March 2nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Let’s turn it around for fun. AU fans have been saying since this thing first broke “where’s your proof?”-I say, where’s YOUR proof money changing hands DIDN’T occur? I’m so sick and tired of this story at this point, I really could care less what happen to AU in the way of investigations, sanctions, or stripping of titles, but I will ask the AU fans to inform me as to why Cam would go to AU for absolutely NOTHING when it’s a far superior college football program to Mississippi State who (the NCAA agreed on this part) Cecil sold his son’s services to (despite Cam not knowing). That’s like saying I would work for McDonald’s for a salary relative to a Master’s Degree and full benefits, but I’d rather work for Apple as a CFO for minimum wage.
Zach
March 2nd, 2011
8:41 pm
Carlton, with all do respect. That’s not how America works. We don’t assume guilt. We believe in the presumption of innocence. Duh.
This isn’t communist china. Do you want to live in communist china?
Time
March 2nd, 2011
8:46 pm
OMGROFLMAO at Mark Bradley questioning this guy for running with a story BEFORE he knows the facts. How in the blue hell is that any different than what Bradley and the AJC, and the rest of the idiot media does on a day to day basis.
Answer – It’s no different.
PMC
March 2nd, 2011
8:49 pm
The NCAA is about as draconian as it gets when it comes to defending the false amateurism that they espouse.
Of course these tapes were bogus or not as revealing as this guy made out….
They’ve been over this with a fine toothed comb. Several government agencies were involved. It’s over. Auburn won… let it go. It has reached birther/truther status at this point.
If he were paid, there would be a paper trail somewhere, no one has uncovered one yet.
Let this boring lame tired story die.
Nick Fairley
March 2nd, 2011
8:51 pm
For those who can’t quite figure out the Cam and MSU story try and think this through just a tad. I promise your brain won’t explode but if you need a bit of Georgia styled grade inflation I’ll spot you 70 points on the test. 80 points. Forgot you need a 3.0. Or wait… never mind, grade inflation ruined the hope.
1. Cam Newton was recruited by OU, UT, AUB and MSU. The poorest and lowest in historical terms when it comes to football of the 4, MSU. Keep that in mind because later we’ll find out that Kiffin and Stoops both deny anything abnormal with Cam’s recruitment. So does Auburn. Soon it will be 3 against 1.
2. Cam visited MSU in Nov 09 and Auburn the next month, that’s Dec 09 for those of you who prosper only with Georgia styled grade inflation. During the MSU visit thats when a booster and Cecil contacted other boosters about money. Not an Auburn booster or person there, all MSU.
3. Cam signed with Auburn on Dec 31, 2009.
4. SEC notifies Auburn of suspected impromper recruitment at MSU, not Auburn, MSU in… JULY of 2010. So I thought Bond ran this down to the NCAA as quick as he could? Turns out, they didn’t. They didn’t report anything until January which was after Cam signed with Auburn and then stonewalled information until the summer.
5. The NCAA found nothing to date. Auburn suspended Cam on Nov 29, he was reinstated by the NCAA on Dec 1. Now we all know, now at least, that the eligibility and enforcement process run independently of each other. According to the NCAA, the reinstatement process is dealing with the individual student-athlete and his or her eligibility. The enforcement process focuses on institutional involvement or culpability. At times, the student-athlete eligibility issues become ripe within the context of an enforcement investigation. When this occurs, the school and the enforcement staff agree upon facts that are then presented to the reinstatement staff specific to the student-athlete’s eligibility.
6. So to date, we know that MSU boosters were willing to pay or seek pay. Makes sense given where they are and that you know you can go to OU, UT and AUB and become a national sensation and lead the team far (possibly to the BCS NC) but not at MSU. So if you want me to go to sacrifice fame and go to MSU, pay up. To date nothing has turned up on OU, UT or AUB offering money to Cam.
7. Oh and the FBI and pay for play thing with casinos and so forth. Yeah, on Oct 12 2010 the judge in that McGregor case orders all future evidence in the case unsealed. Turns out from inside sources the wiretaps from that investigation do not implicate McGregor for a pay-for-play scheme and notice no news reports to date mention wiretaps having been used as a part of the investigation into recruitment violations.
So what you’re left with, is a bunch of nothing except a few things we know for sure – a MSU booster was willing to get money for Cecil and called other boosters to make it happen, Cecil participated in some manner, nothing credible has come out about Auburn or any other school offering Cam money, NCAA reinstated Cam and Auburn beat the hell out of Georgia on the way to the BCS National Championship and dawg fans are still crying about it.
JASon
March 2nd, 2011
8:54 pm
“I believe I can speak for all of us when I say: The man wants to put something on the air before having it authenticated? And he wants us to take him seriously?”
You already took him seriously when you reported it yesterday you moron
Nick Fairley
March 2nd, 2011
9:07 pm
Carlton
March 2nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Let’s turn it around for fun. AU fans have been saying since this thing first broke “where’s your proof?”-I say, where’s YOUR proof money changing hands DIDN’T occur? I’m so sick and tired of this story at this point, I really could care less what happen to AU in the way of investigations, sanctions, or stripping of titles, but I will ask the AU fans to inform me as to why Cam would go to AU for absolutely NOTHING when it’s a far superior college football program to Mississippi State who (the NCAA agreed on this part) Cecil sold his son’s services to (despite Cam not knowing). That’s like saying I would work for McDonald’s for a salary relative to a Master’s Degree and full benefits, but I’d rather work for Apple as a CFO for minimum wage.
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Carlton, you want us to prove a negative? Wilco. Only after you prove Santa Claus does not exist and that Herschel Walker wasn’t paid by Georgia?
I’ll standby…
The Ghost of Wally Butts
March 2nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Here’s the moral of the recent news events…
An Alabama fan destroys property, HE IS ARRESTED AND GOES TO JAIL
An Auburn QB steals property, then destroys it (laptop), HE BECOMES AN ICON AND IS PAID MILLIONS.
No wonder modern kids are screwed up.
Real American
March 2nd, 2011
9:12 pm
SSIgator
March 2nd, 2011
7:46 pm
cam newton is a total thug, thats wy florida kicked him off the team. we have too much class to let a thug like newton continue to play for us. he doesnt even no how to read
___________________________
The irony….geesh.
2smartjones
March 2nd, 2011
9:13 pm
Auburn University 2010 BCS Champs!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
Nick Fairley
March 2nd, 2011
9:14 pm
Bradley is reporting what is an authentic story, this guy out of HSV says he has a tape that will prove, as he said on 680, that Cam ABSOLUTELY was a part of the pay-for-play at MSU. That’s a legit story. The fact that it’s being ridiculed all over the country, and with 680 today, as another example of the Alabama side of the Auburn-Alabama rivalry getting out of control. Kind of like Al from Dadeville.
Nick Fairley
March 2nd, 2011
9:16 pm
he Ghost of Wally Butts
March 2nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Here’s the moral of the recent news events…
An Alabama fan destroys property, HE IS ARRESTED AND GOES TO JAIL
An Auburn QB steals property, then destroys it (laptop), HE BECOMES AN ICON AND IS PAID MILLIONS.
No wonder modern kids are screwed up.
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Yeah! I can’t wait for this. Did the police say Cam stole the laptop? Hurry, your post rests on you getting this right. And that’s not posting a negative, the information is out there.
Trooper Taylor
March 2nd, 2011
9:16 pm
We aint done no cheating. woo hoo look at me I have my hat on backwards.
Eagle Beagle
March 2nd, 2011
9:18 pm
This BS was started by trailer trash alabama fans looking to stir up trouble. They’ve been cheating for years and will get caught again soon—book it.
2smartjones
March 2nd, 2011
9:19 pm
We LOVE our coaches!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
Dr. Phil
March 2nd, 2011
9:26 pm
I guess that this whole topic was kind of wasted space, wasn’t it.
Sec fan
March 2nd, 2011
9:30 pm
Is it me or is Miss st digging its own grave? Why didn’t they give all the tapes to the NCAA? Now we know they have 3 former players as go to guys as contacts for recruits and they are not coaches. This John Bond guy is a complete loser as well. If AU gave them cash they should be punished but all these tapes don’t mean crap. Scott Moore a former felon now has these tapes? Only in Alabama
Dr. Phil
March 2nd, 2011
9:30 pm
How do you prove that something didn’t occur?
Sec fan
March 2nd, 2011
9:36 pm
Proving a negative is rather difficult, that’s why AU has been getting slammed by the media.
RWBRebel
March 2nd, 2011
9:43 pm
So, the money was paid. Right? Is anyboby asking who paid it? We know who got it. But who paid it? It wasn’t picked off a tree in Toomers Corner.
Dawg A
March 2nd, 2011
9:45 pm
Nick Fartley…. I read your post and gave it a lot of thought and again where there is smoke there is fire!!!! Auburn fans are the only people in the country that think there is nothing here! So your constant deflection towards Dawg fans once again shows your ignorance!
You only beat Georgia because you had a player that you bought! The previous four years you got your butt kicked! And this year without your “bought” player you will have your butt kicked again!
Again NOBODY out there thinks you guys didn’t cheat to get your National SCAMpionship!!!! And you idiots aren’t worth my time!!!!!!
Jess
March 2nd, 2011
9:45 pm
Mark-
Please ban the trolls acting like “Dr. Phil”, or “Nick Fairley”.
Idiots.
This is a violation of the AJC blogging guidelines.
Also subjects them to a lawsuit.
Jess
March 2nd, 2011
9:46 pm
SEC Fan,
is this your real name?
Jim
March 2nd, 2011
9:58 pm
Stay tuned folks, it is Auburn and the “Barners” are in deep doo-doo again and they know it. Newton is an issue, but more smoke than fire. The other shoe will drop with a resounding THUD!
2smartjones
March 2nd, 2011
10:19 pm
Jim – LOL! You’re funny!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
bs
March 2nd, 2011
10:35 pm
“This whole Cam Newton saga is the strangest tale in SEC annals”
Mark, I agree, This whole Cam Newton saga is the strangest anal in SEC’s tale………………..
MikeP
March 2nd, 2011
10:50 pm
GT GRAD
March 2nd, 2011
7:37 pm
“He AND his dad are more than likely guilty……….this is the primary reason why he left early for the NFL; if he stayed and was suspended due to NCAA findings, his NFL stock would have plummetted!”
So he should have stayed when he’s just won the Heisman, a national championship and will be a first-five draft choice? For Cam to stay in college would have been crazy.
MikeP
March 2nd, 2011
10:55 pm
Jim
March 2nd, 2011
9:58 pm
“Stay tuned folks, it is Auburn and the “Barners” are in deep doo-doo again and they know it. Newton is an issue, but more smoke than fire. The other shoe will drop with a resounding THUD!”
Jim me lad, you’ve been reading too much fan-fiction,. There is no other shoe. In this case, from the start it’s been “where there’s smoke, there’s somebody blowing smoke”.
14-0, National Champs, SEC Champs, Heisman winner, Lombardi winner, Broyles Award winner, Coach of the Year winner, It just doesn’t get any better than that!
It’s Great To Be An Auburn Tiger!
Trailer trash
March 2nd, 2011
10:58 pm
Does any body else find it funny to here a auburn fan call a bama fan trailer trash? Don’t y’all all live in the trailer park and sleep with your cousins? Just open up people from Alabama. Admit the reason y’all hate each other is because y’all are fighting over each others sister!
The Money's Too Much
March 2nd, 2011
11:02 pm
Ever notice how Auburn fans never say that Cam wasn’t paid. They just say that “you have no proof that Cam was paid”. This is the same defense that OJ had. And we know what eventually happened to him! They’ll get theirs. Don’t worry. Justice always prevails in the end.
Dawg fan
March 2nd, 2011
11:08 pm
Mark Bradley loves to keep trouble stirred up! If he is not bringing up the “newton” file he is trying to get coach richt fired or the basket ball coach at tech. Mark how would you like it if your bloggers tried every day to get you fired? Try finding something good to investigate about local teams from Georgia or Alabama and look into how these coaches may be impacting the kids lives positively. All news does not have to be bad news!
MikeP
March 2nd, 2011
11:32 pm
Cam Newton wasn’t paid. Cecil Newton wasn’t paid. The NCAA said so, Auburn officials said so and I said so.
Justice has already prevailed. Hard work and great coaching brought Auburn a National Championship.
War Eagle, ALL IN!
hwb
March 2nd, 2011
11:45 pm
SSIgator
“he doesnt even NO how to read”
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
priceless. you don’t NO how to spell!
all you college fans are idiots. i happened to catch the first couple of auburn games. that kid was so awesome, i made sure to watch the rest of them, and they did not disappoint. the rest of you are just jealous.
by the way, florida did not not kick him out.
Sports Review
March 3rd, 2011
12:26 am
[...] Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) [...]
Carlton
March 3rd, 2011
12:26 am
Yes-Cam Newton wasn’t paid and Cecil wasn’t paid-but they both ASKED for payments..crazy, huh?
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
12:42 am
WAR EAGLE!!!
2010 BCS CHAMPS!!!
steve garner
March 3rd, 2011
2:09 am
How can a source know that you “DON”T HAVE SOMETHING”. I mean alot of people can claim to know that I HAVE something (because they have either seen me with it, gave it to me to start with, etc). but I really don’t know how they can prove I don’t HAVE something ( unless it was good looks they claimed I didn’t have….then again I always have my mother to disprove that as well) (g)
Cecil Newton
March 3rd, 2011
7:52 am
I think Mark has a crush on Cam Newton.
how2fish
March 3rd, 2011
8:20 am
I hope UGA/Bama and UT all beat Auburn by 100 points a game for the next 30 years…however until there is any PROOF regarding CAMGATE..my hat is off to them and the 2010 NC and SEC title.if anyone ever has any proof we can discuss this then till then this is a dead issue…come on Spring Ball.
DC
March 3rd, 2011
8:35 am
Lets be honest….AU would have beaten UGA even without Cam…they sucked last year! You bitter bitter UGA fans….Like some posters have said before seems UGA fans want to live in a communist country…
Columbus Dawg
March 3rd, 2011
8:54 am
I think DA would be a better handle there moron. Which QB on Auburn’s roster do you think could have provided a comeback strong enough to have beaten UGA in 2010? What a delusional idiot. Georgia sucked in 2009 as well, but were good enough for another victory over the hapless Tiggers. Auburn is and always will be legends in their own minds.
DC
March 3rd, 2011
8:59 am
Ya never know CD, your defense was worse than ours when we played…stop crying..how am I delusional?…what was your record this past year? What was ours? besides I think if we didn’t have Nick Fairely we don’t go undefeated this past year…Cam was the man..but Nick made things happen IE THE BAMA GAME AND THE BCS NC GAME…where we became “legends in our own mind”
Mike T.
March 3rd, 2011
9:07 am
@DC
Lets be honest—- before last year, Georgia won four in a row over the War Eagles.
Oh that is the official Auburn yell? then why do they have that bird flying around the stadium?
Mike T.
March 3rd, 2011
9:11 am
I guess when the other shoe drops, Gene Chizik will go back to Iowa St.
Columbus Dawg
March 3rd, 2011
9:23 am
Auburn orchestrated many second half comebacks in 2010 because of quarterback Cameron Newton’s play. UGA’s chances of pulling it out would have been better than average without the play of quarterback Cameron Newton. Go back and review the film of the game, DA. What is so funny is that there are so many bugs under the rug at Auburn right now, that the recruitment of quarterback Cameron Newton may not even have to come into play for AU to get slapped by the NCAA. My bet will be that even if Judge Capel rules in the defense attorny’s favor about the wiretaps about the gambling issues, that the tapes with the evidence against Auburn football will still come out since the NCAA can rule on it’s findings against member schools without the same scrutiny as a court of law in wiretap cases.
Columbus Dawg
March 3rd, 2011
9:23 am
Auburn orchestrated many second half comebacks in 2010 because of quarterback Cameron Newton’s play. UGA’s chances of pulling it out would have been better than average without the play of quarterback Cameron Newton. Go back and review the film of the game, DA. What is so funny is that there are so many bugs under the rug at Auburn right now, that the recruitment of quarterback Cameron Newton may not even have to come into play for AU to get slapped by the NCAA. My bet will be that even if Judge Capel rules in the defense attorny’s favor about the wiretaps about the gambling issues, that the tapes with the evidence against Auburn football will still come out since the NCAA can rule on it’s findings against member schools without the same scrutiny as a court of law in wiretap cases.
Dead Trees at Toomers Corner
March 3rd, 2011
9:26 am
When is Miss State going to be put on probation by the NCAA? The fact that BOOSTERS (in the form of Bell and Bond) at Miss State were deeply involved in the recruiting of Cam Newton is a clear violation of the rules. This is the only actionable information that has come out of this whole deal. Everything else is speculation.
Why would reputable media outlets like 680 The Fan and the AJC let an admitted Alabama cheerleader/apologist like Moore have 1 second of airtime if he is not prepared to show up with his “tape” and let it rip? Bell and Bond have gotten their own school in trouble, and now they are just being used by the Tide-biased media in the state of Alabama to further the agenda of the Tide.
Georgia Auburn
March 3rd, 2011
9:28 am
As for you (alleged) Georgia fans throwing Auburn under the bus, you are better than that, so please cross back over to the sunny side of the street. Maybe you have not been around long enough to appreciate the special relationship between the two schools. Georgia and Auburn have had a great rivalry for a long, long, long time. Every Auburn fan that I know cheers for Georgia except that one week of the year. Most Georgia fans that I know feel the same way about Auburn.
I know this too – if some nut poisoned the hedges at Samford Stadium, Auburn fans would be just as outraged as Georgia fans would be. The SEC is about classic, long standing rivalries and appreciation/respect for each schools traditions. (Yes, even those cow bells at Miss State). The game day experience at each SEC school is fantastic and unique. ESPN understands this and that is why they keep showing SEC matchups on their Saturday night telecast, because an electric atmosphere is guaranteed and it makes for good television.
MikeP
March 3rd, 2011
9:50 am
“I guess when the other shoe drops, Gene Chizik will go back to Iowa St.”
But since there is no other shoe. Chizik keeps right on whuppin’ bamzos and curs on the way to many more championship seasons.
There is nothing, anywhere, to indicate this deal is not over. The only other thing out there is a few desperate, jealous rival fans that are gullible enough to believe what some sophomore creative writing major posted on a website that is famous for inaccurate BS.
I really used to think that UGA, at least, provided their graduates with skills at critical thinking before they were awarded a degree. Of course, they might and all these conspiracy theorists posting on blogs never took a class at Georgia.
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
10:02 am
The truth is that Auburn folks know that Cam was paid. And others were too. That’s why you see them here trying to defend the indefensable. I hope they get to keep their trophy and their name in the NCAA record book. It’ll remind college football fans from all over the country of what transpired in ‘10. And it’ll give teams playing AU a little more fire.
What’s important is that AU is tainted (retainted I should say) forever for all of this mess. They’ve been exposed, yet again, for the kind of program that they run. The Milt McGreggor trial still looms and lots will come out of that. Whether they nail AU on the Cam Newton thing is still undecided. But in the court of public opinion, the verdict will always be “guilty”. Just like in the OJ trial.
Tiger mania
March 3rd, 2011
10:14 am
Cam or auburn knew nothing about any of this—it was all set up by alabama and florida fans to get Auburn in trouble. Auburn should sue everyone who is making up all these stories about payments.
Gregg T
March 3rd, 2011
10:16 am
SSIgator throws a lot of stones about Cam. Let’s see, the gators don’t sign thugs, Cam is a thug, the gators sign Cam, the gators don’t play thugs, the gators play Cam. Do gator fans always think it’s fine to have it both ways?
Ten@10: Major recruiting scandals threaten college football | AJC College Sports Recruiting
March 3rd, 2011
10:30 am
[...] columnist Mark Bradley weighed in on this in blogs on both Tuesday and Wednesday. Understandably, Bradley remains skeptical about Moore, who has declined to release the tapes until [...]
Scott Moore - March 3rd
March 3rd, 2011
10:38 am
McCarter: Huntsville radio host Scott Moore promises to soon play ‘incriminating’ recordings from Newton case
Published: Thursday, March 03, 2011, 8:05 AM
By Mark McCarter, The Huntsville Times
Print HUNTSVILLE, AL. — In some ways, this looms as something more poisonous than anything Harvey Updyke, the Alabama fan and would-be tree-killer, allegedly spread under the oaks at Toomer’s Corner.
AP Photo/Dave MartinControversy continues to bubble over Cam Newton’s recruitment
There are recordings that are, in a word, “incriminating” that Scott Moore has heard and he promises to soon play on his Huntsville radio show.
There are recordings, he said, that will enable everyone to make their “own determination” about the Cam Newton play-for-pay scheme that allegedly was concocted by his father, the Rev. Cecil Newton.
While Moore said he never heard Cam Newton’s voice on the recordings, he has heard, “There’s also the indication that Cam knows what’s going on.”
The recordings, Moore hinted, may have an even broader impact.
“Based on what I know, I believe Cam Newton (for) Auburn in this situation is the least of their worries,” Moore said. “I really do.”
In a 30-minute interview with The Times on Wednesday before his “Scottie W. and Redfish Show” on WZZN The Zone, Moore said that the recordings made his long-time friend John Bond, the former Mississippi State quarterback, and MSU booster Bill Bell also implicate the University of Tennessee during Lane Kiffin’s tenure as head coach.
Bond and Bell were allegedly approached by Cecil Newton during his son’s recruitment, claiming the family had received financial incentives to play elsewhere. Bond promised on Moore’s show Wednesday night to provide a “snippet” of a recording.
“There’s some other stuff that will come out in the coming weeks that might set the ecord straight a little bit,” Moore said. “There’s some things I have not heard, some things that I’m supposed to hear that will tie all this together.”
Moore said that former Florida coach Urban Meyer was the whistleblower, according to what the NCAA told Bond. Said Moore, “Urban made the call and The New York Times acted on it.”
There is much in the puzzle, especially Moore’s piece of it, about which one can be skeptical.
This doesn’t feel like it’s all about truth, justice, the American way and the First Amendment. It’s easy to see issues of credibility and bias.
He is an unabashed Alabama fan who was wearing warmup pants with the school logo as he went on-air Wednesday night. “I love Alabama. I always have. But I don’t have a hatred of Auburn,” he said.
Moore, a radio veteran, is starting a new show in a new city, at a relatively new sports station trying to find a toehold in this marketplace.
He claimed “this is not a smear campaign against (Auburn), although one has certainly been waged against me this week. That’s part of the territory, I reckon.”
So why is he doing this? What’s in it for him?
“I’m not doing it for the radio show,” Moore said.
“I’m not out to destroy anybody,” he continued. “I don’t want to see Auburn University destroyed. I don’t have a vendetta against Auburn University. I’m just reporting on a story that’s now mushroomed into one of the biggest stories in college football history.”
He talked of “authenticating” the recordings through an independent source to enable him to play them “without a shadow of a doubt.” They are digital files, less susceptible to tampering.
Some have suggested that Moore, a talented mimic who impersonates various coaches during shows and speeches, created the voices himself, a charge he strongly denied.
When I asked about some authenticating before making some of his recent public claims, and if they aren’t as damning as any tape would be, he responded, “I’m basing (comments) on what I’ve heard and what I’ve been told.”
Whether he currently is in possession of any digital files, he said “I can’t confirm or deny that.”
As his show came on the air, a disclaimer was played. It was the standard stuff, assuring that station management wasn’t responsible for opinions expressed, etc., etc.
Then, there was this snippet of recording:
“Listen,” it said, “at your own risk.”
Columbus Dawg
March 3rd, 2011
10:44 am
Auburn University has been sited as being the third most penalized team in the history of the NCAA. This is a fact, not a conspiracy. Auburn was voted by sportswriters as being the number one team in the America after the 1957 season. Auburn University was not allowed to prove this in a bowl game because it had been placed on probation. This is a fact, not a conspiracy. After having won several SEC Championships in the 1980’s, Auburn’s football program was placed on major probation, and then Coach Pat Dye was prohibited from the program for seven years. This is a fact, not a conspiracy. There are reasons why it is easier to prosecute repeat offenders. A jury is made up of human beings. Granted, most Americans who are called to serve on a jury profess to be fair, and only base their opinions on facts. If you appear before a judge on a traffic violation, or some other other simple charge where a jury is not warranted, and are a first time offender, that judge is likely to be a little less harsh on you than if you have a red light violation and a couple of speeding tickets on your record before you go in front of him.
Auburn University and it’s denying nation of blind supporters have no one to blame but themselves and it’s history of factual violations and punishments for the scrutiny being leveled at them from people all over the country, not just Georgia and Alabama fans as most of the Auburn people would have you believe. It is all going to hit the fan on Auburn. The NCAA spokesperson interviewed before Christmas said that she thought it would be about another eleven months or so before Auburn would be hammered, and I’ll guarantee you that she had some good reasons for having given an opinion on a time line on this to a media outlet. Auburn may have one more sanction free season before the crap hits the fan, and if the rumors surrounding all of the allegations tied to the BingoGate wiretaps are anywhere near as damning as they sound, especially the parts about the money laundering, then Auburn University as a whole may in for a very, very terrible future.
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
11:18 am
Columbus Dawg, your observations are very astute and you articulate them very well. I wish AU could view itself as the nation views it.
I’ve said many times that I congratulated UF, Bama, and LSU for their NC’s. And I would love nothing more than to congratulate another SEC brother for another trophy. It reinforces the fact that the SEC is the most powerful football conference in the country. But the Auburn *NC does not make me proud as an SEC fan. And I will not congratulate the school for what they’ve done as I find it an embarrassment to the SEC.
Pat Dye, Bobby Lowder, Cam and Cecil Newton, Milt McGreggor, Eric Ramsey, the Psychology class scandal, (these are the public ones!) are the recent history of AU. You’d think someone at that university would step in and say that they’ve had enough and clean the program up. Right now AU is a football team with a school attached. Until that changes, AU will continue to be the laughing stock of the nation.
Erskine
March 3rd, 2011
12:42 pm
Now that Auburn can roll its own trees, will they start keying their own cars and egging their own houses?
What a bunch of idiots.
bertha butt
March 3rd, 2011
12:45 pm
Mark, why you keep defending the Troglodytes at Auburn?
Lol
March 3rd, 2011
12:56 pm
Good one Erskine!
patrick
March 3rd, 2011
1:00 pm
I like how you end this piece with only in Alabama. Seriously! any state that has a rivalry like this would act the same. USC UCLA? UGA GT? Texas Texas AM? Especially when the two schools won the last two NCs.
how2fish
March 3rd, 2011
1:19 pm
I hate this but I agree with patrick ! His 1pm post is spot on !
trupert
March 3rd, 2011
1:27 pm
We all need to keep these things in proper perspective. Everyone needs to be patient and realise that it’s gonna take some time to uncover the truth about the latest pay for play $cam at Auburn.
If pay for play was a sport Auburn would be in a league of their own, because after five decades of practice, well, they are in a league of their own and they know what they’re doing when it comes to bribes, payoffs, and all things involved. WDE!
lovesports
March 3rd, 2011
1:28 pm
look at all the racists and bigots coming out the woodwork like roaches on these message boards. LOL!!! Pathetic coach riders.
Oh and this “tape” is bull. Where was this “smoking gun”. Translation: these bubba’s FAIL at blackmail.
Vince Dooley's Ego
March 3rd, 2011
1:36 pm
Uh “trupert” did you miss the Albert MEANS CASE? Let me refresh your memory about an Alabama booster paying 200k for a player to sign with the Tide? Or are you just willfully ignorant?
jedd m.
March 3rd, 2011
1:40 pm
lovesports – wow, you’ve got to be in the top 1% of living idiots. what has been racist and bigoted? Because cam is black? Obama is half-black and he’s a terrible president. Does that make every citizen who doesn’t like what he’s doing to the current a half-racist?
You are a moron of historic proportions.
Erskine
March 3rd, 2011
1:41 pm
VDEgo – right, i remember that. i also remember how upset the barners were about it. Don’t be a hypocrite. Cam and his half-assed-preacher daddy are guiltier than the fat kid next to the empty pizza box.
DaMan
March 3rd, 2011
1:44 pm
You UGA fans are hilarious….you talk about the disgrace of the program…..are you so stupid that you do not understand that the whole country looks at UGA as a bunch of thugs (13 arrests, stomping on the field in the UF game, etc…) and your AD getting caught with a 20-something female and red panties in his lap…..so before you start talking about Auburn and your obvious obsession over our program, take a look at your own program, your jealousy is very transparent…..your program is a disgrace to the SEC and the NCAA….by the way, how was Shreveport??? Glendale was awesome…..WDE…..
Not "Just A Tree"
March 3rd, 2011
1:49 pm
If Cam Newton was a white corn pone from Hicksville, AL, do you think there would be this kind of venom spewed in his direction? You thought Vick took some heat from the bigots around here? Cam is being subjected to a public lynching by “Dawg Fans” without one shred of evidence that he even knew about this. It would be like sitting on a jury & convicting someone before the defense even presents their case. No one from Auburn has even commented publicly because they can’t until the investigation is over. Does that seem fair to you? Nobody has even heard what exactly happened yet & they are already trying to give AU the death penalty! And don’t even start to say it’s not racially motivated because I have heard it first hand from friends calling him racial slurs I wouldn’t even repeat on here. What do you guys gain by ripping a 21-year old young man to shreds every day on these blogs?
trupert
March 3rd, 2011
2:09 pm
Wow! That was quite a response.
For those who are trying to sell that my remarks as racist, Auburn has been paying players for five decades and this was well before segregation. As far as I know, coach Jordon never payed a black player because there were no black players on the team, so make of that what you may.
Yes, I’m well aware of the Albert Means case at Alabama but that’s old news aside from the majic number of $ 200.000, I don’t see why you would bring that up to a UGA fan on a UGA site. Yes we know that Bama has a checkered passed also.
I have and will continue to point out that Alabama is dirty for oversigning, just so you barners don’t feel like you’re being picked on. Only in Alabama.
DaMan
March 3rd, 2011
2:54 pm
trupert, and UGA is squeaky clean, right? It’s funny that when your team (UGA) has an embarrassing year (only 1 win against a team with a winning record by the way) that you start lashing out on other programs, etc…..nothing to say about the 13 arrests, huh? Didn’t think so….And your comments about Auburn paying players for over 5 decades, where do you get that from….any source or did you just make it up? Booked your hotel in Shreveport for 2011 yet?
trupert
March 3rd, 2011
3:07 pm
DaMan, this is for you and all those Auburn fans that like to blindly defend a team and culture that you don’t even know the history of.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/584912-auburn-football-over-50-years-of-buying-success-and-violating-ncaa-rules
DaMan
March 3rd, 2011
3:15 pm
trupert, you’re missing the point…..I know the history of Auburn, I’m a third generation Auburn Alumni, but my point was when UGA has 13 arrests and a 6-7 season and a loss to UCF (ouch!), you start bringing up 50 year old data…….and ignoring your own problems……you may want to start focusing on trying to have a winning season instead of Auburn paying a guy $73 back in 1963……no comment on your thugs and the stellar arrest record at UGA??? Red panties anyone?
trupert
March 3rd, 2011
3:37 pm
….And your comments about Auburn paying players for over 5 decades, where do you get that from….any source or did you just make it up?
I have answered that question and the reason that I bring up 50 year old data is because Auburn is being rightly or wrongly accused of doing the same thing as they have done in the passed, the same things that coach Jordon was proven guilty of, the same things that coach Dye was proven guilty of and the same thing that coach Bowden admitted to doing, paying players.
UGA dosen’t ignore our problems or sweep them under the rug. When you make the school look bad as in what our former AD did we thank him for doing a good job prior to the indiscretion and part company with him.
Now at Auburn, they handle these things a little diffrently as in the cases of coaches Jordon and Dye. Both of these coaches were proved to have paid players and Dye was not only reassigned to another position but the playing field was named in his honor and again Auburn was so proud of the accomplishments of coach Jordon that they named their stadium after this coach who was caught again paying players.
As far as the player arrests at Ga, atleast these players were held accountable for their actions, while at Auburn, the campus police don’t hand these players over to the real police they simply hand them over to a coach or dean. Yes they do things a little differently in ol Alabama.
Erskine
March 3rd, 2011
3:55 pm
I always thought “The lovliest village on the plains” was meant as sarcasm.
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
4:23 pm
trupert, don’t try to confuse these AU folks with facts. They get really annoyed.
DaMan
March 3rd, 2011
5:04 pm
So the UGA holier than thou attitude rears it’s head again…..please…..as an objective football fan, I’m not blind to the fact that almost every school provides some sort of “extra benefit” to their players (i.e. Herschel driving a new Trans Am at UGA —from his parents? Doubt it)…..the LaMichael James kid at Oregon driving a new Escalade and when asked about it, he said he and a friend “switched cars” (yea right, I’ll take your Escalade and you take my 1974 Honda Civic, that works)….so while I don’t agree at all with paying student athletes (their tuition is their payment, it’s their job to take advantage of it), most players are getting paid, bottom line….so it’s just a matter of who gets caught….
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
7:02 pm
I sure wish that trupert wasn’t a stone cold RACIST!
His venomous, jealous vitriol is SICKENING!!!
WAR EAGLE!!!
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
7:10 pm
Wow, DaMan, I actually agree with you on something. I’ve heard lots of people say that college football players should be paid. Well, they are. Lots. If you figure 4 years of tuition, room and board, books, etc., these kids get well over $150,000 worth of education. And it should pay off if they go to class and stay out of trouble.
Where we differ is on the Herschel point. I’ve never heard any mention about him before the Cam thing. I know that boosters help kids from time-to-time. But when we start talking about institutionally paying kids, and to the tune of $200,000, that’s criminal.
Aubies are constantly taking different defensive postures. First it was “he was never paid”. Then it was “well there’s no proof”. Now it’s “well everybody does it”. What’s next?
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
7:49 pm
The Money – No, the stance remains he was never paid.
Keep on crying your eyes out like a little girl!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
AUBURN UNIVERSITY 2010 BCS CHAMPIONS!!!
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
7:56 pm
2smartjones, I hope you’re a teenager. Because if you’re an adult……………………
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
8:01 pm
Of course I’m an adult.
The Money – Do you walk upright? Because if you do………
MikeP
March 3rd, 2011
8:48 pm
Columbus Dawg
March 3rd, 2011
10:44 am
“Auburn University has been sited as being the third most penalized team in the history of the NCAA.”
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Auburn has seven major violations. Georgia has six and bammer is currently on probation. What’s your point, Columbus Dawg?
Nobody in the Newton family got any extra benefits from Auburn or anywhere else. I know this because….wait for it….The NCAA had a team of investigators work the case from July through November of 2010. They found nothing. When their investigation was finished, they declared Cam Newton “Eligible Without Condition” on December 2nd. Game, set and match to Auburn. Oh yeah, National Championship to Auburn too.
There is nothing out there past the NCAA’s final determination except the drooling of jealous losers. Can’t wait for spring practice when Gene Chizik and his energetic young staff will start building for a repeat performance. I do believe back-to-back championships for the Auburn Tigers will really make you whiners have a stroke.
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
9:25 pm
MikeP and 2smartjones, you guys always seem to post at about the same time. And you both seem like 5th graders. Maybe you should meet.
I keep seeing this comparison about major NCAA infractions. You list UGA’s as 6 and AU’s as 7. The list below doesn’t mention UGA, but talks a lot about AU. Seems that AU’s 7 were all in football, something about paying players. Hmmmmmm. They must have it all wrong. We all know that AU wouldn’t pay players because that would mean really, really severe penalties.
Most NCAA Infractions: The Record No Team Wants To Hold
By Cody Dockens (Correspondent) on August 3, 2010 3,468
In the wake of the USC/Reggie Bush scandal, one can’t help but wonder which teams and conferences have had the most sanctions and what were the reasons for them. There are many teams who have committed major infractions, and there have been almost as many types of punishments as there have been rule breakers. Below you will find the list of the teams with the most infractions,details of both the well known and lesser known scandals and their fallouts, and I will name the dirtiest coach in football as well.
1.Southern Methodist (SMU):Eight, all football.
2.Arizona State:Eight, mostly baseball.
3.Auburn:Seven, mixed bag of violations, biggest were football.
4.Florida State: Seven academic scandals mostly involving all sports. Most publicized were football related.
5.Oklahoma:Seven, five were football related.
6-10:Memphis, Texas A&M, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Wichita State also all had seven violations but none as big as the mentioned before.
Perhaps both the best and least well known example of rules violation and punishment is the 1986 case against SMU. From 1974-1985 the SMU Mustangs were caught for five major NCAA violations (for a grand total of seven), averaging a major infraction about every other year. Many of the violations concerned the payment of players, or a slush fund made available to them. After an NCAA investigation found that over $61,000 was made available to a player, the NCAA handed down what was known as the death penalty. SMU’s 1987 season would be cancelled along with all 1988 home games.
They would lose 55 scholarships over the next four years and be barred from off-campus recruiting. Most all the team transferred, resulting in them having to cancel the partial 1988 season as well. From 1980-1986 SMU’s record was 52-19-1, and since their record is 64-158-3.
Auburn has had seven violations for various causes, the worst of which consisted of boosters paying players for performance. Players got paid to play and received “bonuses” for forced fumbles, touchdowns, interceptions etc. This happened while Pat Dye was the head coach, and reports indicate that Pat Dye himself was directly involved with helping players secure illegal loans from banks.
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
9:59 pm
The Money – Talk about acting like a 5th grader! Are you the middle school social chair???
Why are you always suggesting people should meet one another???
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
AUBURN UNIVERSITY 2010 BCS CHAMPIONS!!!
DaMan
March 4th, 2011
12:15 am
You guys can haggle and argue all you want to about gossip and hearsay, but all I know is that it was a total blast watching the Auburn Tigers play this season…….so many close games, such a great comeback against Alabama, the 65-43 win against Arkansas (I never thought Auburn would give up 43 points at home….much less still win the game by 22 points!!)…….and my son and I were lucky enough to see 10 of the 14 games (including NC game in Glendale), so you guys can have all of the rhetoric, the games played on the field made it one of the most enjoyable seasons I can remember…..
2smartjones
March 4th, 2011
1:57 am
WINNING!!!
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/03/john_bonds_attorney_says_inter.html
And It's Only Gotten Worse
March 4th, 2011
10:12 am
Auburn has had seven violations for various causes, the worst of which consisted of boosters paying players for performance. Players got paid to play and received “bonuses” for forced fumbles, touchdowns, interceptions etc. This happened while Pat Dye was the head coach, and reports indicate that Pat Dye himself was directly involved with helping players secure illegal loans from banks.
2smartjones
March 4th, 2011
11:19 am
And it’s Only – Scoreboard, son! Read it and weep!
Auburn University, reigning NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!
WINNING!!!
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/03/john_bonds_attorney_says_inter.html
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
All In(volved)
March 4th, 2011
4:02 pm
Again, Auburn has had seven violations for various causes, the worst of which consisted of boosters paying players for performance. Players got paid to play and received “bonuses” for forced fumbles, touchdowns, interceptions etc. This happened while Pat Dye was the head coach, and reports indicate that Pat Dye himself was directly involved with helping players secure illegal loans from banks.
2smartjones
March 4th, 2011
7:55 pm
All in/And it’s – or whatever other name you sashay over and pull out of your dress closet, just KEEP ON CRYING, little girl!!! LOL!!!
AUBURN UNIVERSITY 2010 BCS CHAMPIONS!!!
EAT IT, All in/And it’s!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
All In(volved)
March 4th, 2011
9:24 pm
Who are you Aubies trying to convince, us or yourselves?
2smartjones
March 4th, 2011
10:25 pm
We convinced THE WORLD all season long and on Jan. 10th, 2011 in Glendale.
Now we’re just LAUGHING at CRYING little girls like YOU, (volved)!!!!
You are a TRUE PANTY WAISTE!!!
LOL!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
All In(volved)
March 4th, 2011
11:43 pm
Yea, keep telling yourself that.
2smartjones
March 5th, 2011
12:03 am
(volved) : “Boo Hooo! Auburn University didn’t pay anything for Cam!!! BOOOO HOOO all of our fantasies, hopes and dreams have been CRUSHED. Booo Hoooo, I’m just a crying little girl named (volved) and I’ve cried so hard that I soiled my panties! BOOOOO HOOOOO Auburn is going to be just fine after all! BOOOOO HOOOO!”
LOL!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
MikeP
March 5th, 2011
12:37 am
The Money, I don’t know where you got that bogus list you posted. Here’s a valid list:
“List of NCAA Schools with Infractions
Institutions with Major Infractions
Institution – Number of Major Infractions
Arizona State University 8
Southern Methodist University 8
Auburn University 7
Texas A&M University, College Station 7
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities 7
University of Oklahoma 7
University of Wisconsin, Madison 7
Wichita State University 7
Florida State University 6
Kansas State University 6
University of California, Berkeley 6
University of California, Los Angeles 6
University of Georgia 6
University of Illinois, Champaign 6
University of Kansas 6
University of Kentucky 6
University of Memphis 6
See Georgia on there at six? I do.
Here’s the link, so you can study it in depth: http://www.trackforum.——com/forums/showthread.php?113778-List-of-NCAA-Schools-with-Infractions
I broke the link so the AJC wouldn’t get all confused about it. Just delete five dashes—– in the middle of it, read the accurate information and weep. See, had you attended Auburn University you would know how to find accurate information and how to avoid getting duped by internet bloggers. Clearly, it was your loss.
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
10:42 am
As the SEC’s dirtiest program, Auburn has had seven violations for various causes, the worst of which consisted of boosters paying players for performance. Players got paid to play and received “bonuses” for forced fumbles, touchdowns, interceptions etc. This happened while Pat Dye was the head coach, and reports indicate that Pat Dye himself was directly involved with helping players secure illegal loans from banks.
MikeP
March 5th, 2011
12:15 pm
All involved, that is the first I’ve heard of such things. Do you have a link to reputable site, or are you merely babbling your wishful thinking on a message board.?
I do find it odd that the NCAA didn’t find any of these things when they investigated 20 years ago. Got a clue as to why they didn’t find this stuff?
My guess is they didn’t find it because none of this ever happened. If it makes you happy to type it, even if you don’t believe it, go ahead and type.
It’s pretty cool, watching all the jealous losers make stuff up about Auburn. You’d be better served to address your own school’s problems, but whatever floats your boat, y’all are amusing, and quite creative in a third-grade sort of way.
My favorite to date is “The NCAA is really gonna’ get you but they can’t do anything until after the FBI finishes.” Now there’s a real hoot!
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:27 pm
MikeP,
See below. Congrats, AU & SMU get the most ink in the article. Two of a kind like you and 2smartjones.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/428918-most-ncaa-infractions-the-record-no-team-wants-to-hold
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:30 pm
Here’s another article that’ll make Aubies proud of their “clean” program.
http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/05/sound_off_auburn_is_not_most_p.html
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:33 pm
Any time you Google NCAA infractions, Auburn is always mentioned in the article. Seems to be a pattern. Of course though, we know that Cam wasn’t paid, right?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-ncaacheating092308
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:36 pm
I couldn’t support a program like this:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2010-11-09-auburn-newton-cover_N.htm
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:37 pm
http://www.gamblingiq.com/forum/online-gambling-general-discussion/37662.htm
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:38 pm
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2010/11/9/1802934/cam-newton-florida-auburn-cheating-laptop-theft-expulsion
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:40 pm
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Source-says-Newton-left-Florida-after-cheating-scandal
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:41 pm
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2010-11/cam-newton-probe/story/report-auburn-qb-newton-cheated-as-a-florida-student
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:44 pm
I wonder what kind of “student” Cam was at AU.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5783051
MikeP
March 5th, 2011
3:25 pm
If you’ll note, every story about Cam Newton cheating at Florida credits Thayer Evans at FoxSports.com as the source. His tale was debunked by the Houston Chronicle, Gainesville Sun and Yahoo sports.com. I’ve posted the links in Chip Tower’s thread.
Evans was fired from the N.Y. Times for making things up about players at Texas and Kentucky. It won’t be long before FoxSports.com fires him for making up things about Auburn.
Here’s a tad from the Yahoo Sports article, just to get you started:
“FoxSports.com writer Thayer Evans published a story today alleging Auburn quarterback Cameron Newton “had three different instances of academic cheating while attending the University of Florida.”
The story follows several days of editorial attacks on Newton by Thayer, a former stringer for the New York Times.
Two independent sources with detailed knowledge of the UF academic discipline system during the period in question have disputed the Evans story. According to the sources, no allegations of academic impropriety regarding Cam Newton were sent to the Florida Student Conduct Committee at any time either during or after Newton’s time at UF.”
Check out the rest of it at the link I posted in Chip’s thread. I promise you won’t like what you see.
The few of your links that don’t credit Evans as the source are ,uh, Bleacher Reports, blogs and “sound off” by jealous rival fans..
Also, where’s the link about Pat Dye paying players for big hits and so forth? That should be some great reading! But you can’t find anything of the sort, correct?
This whole thing has been just silly. Had Auburn done anything wrong, the NCAA would have found it in five months of investigation, to say nothing of scumballs like Thayer Evans and Joe Schadd lurking around in the bushes.
You need a new hobby, the “Auburn beat us because they cheated” excuse is getting worn out.
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
6:01 pm
Lol, you Aubies! Deny, deny, deny……. “the world is out to get us” blah, blah, blah. There’s no debating with someone who ingores the facts. You know the truth, we know the truth, and the people who wrote those articles knows the truth. Stop trying to convice the world that the sky is green. We all know it’s not.
Real dawg
March 5th, 2011
10:08 pm
auburn and tennessee—dirtiest programs in the SEC. slive needs to crack down and get these programs cleaned up.
2smartjones
March 5th, 2011
10:17 pm
(volved) You sad little girl! I feel so badly for you girl, because I know you just can’t help your feminine self! You just go ahead and keep on having your cathartic, girlie cry, (volved)!
“BOOO HOOOO, Auburn University didn’t pay a dime for Cameron Newton! BOOO HOOOOO all of our hopes, fantasies and unrealistic dreams are TOTALLY DASHED!!! BOOOO HOOO there was NOTHING unfair in AUBURN UNIVERSITY beating our little girl asses! BOOOO HOOO! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is going to come out of ALL THESE TEARS us girls keep CRYING! BOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO !!!!!”
LOL!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
MikeP
March 6th, 2011
9:45 am
We deny doing anything wrong, that’s what the Just and Righteous do. If Auburn is a dirty program, all you have to do is prove it.
It’s been 20 years since the Auburn football program had any major violation, 31 years since a recruiting violation.
It do think it may be pointless to have a discussion with someone who links to blogs and “sound-off” sections as though they are articles from a legitimate source. You didn’t attend UGA or any other college did you?
The slightest bit of higher education would have prevented you from making such a gaffe.
All In(volved)
March 6th, 2011
10:40 am
One morning we’re going to open the paper and see that the NCAA, through their continuing investigation of AU, has done the right thing. Until then, tell all of this to another Aubie. You’re the only ones who believe it. If you really do.
MikeP
March 6th, 2011
9:20 pm
Sure I believe it. I believed it before December 2nd because I have confidence in Gene Chizik and the other Auburn people involved. I have even more confidence after December 2nd. That’s the day the NCAA declared Cam Newton “Eligible Without Condition”.
It’s odd that so many of you can’t see that as the end of it. I think you really do see that ended it, but to admit that means admitting Auburn whipped you straight up and many of you aren’t man enough to handle that.
2smartjones
March 7th, 2011
4:21 pm
(volved), one morning you’re going to wake up and you’ll be wearing a clown suit instead of the skirt you have on now. Then we will know that your girlish tears have ceased to flow. Until then, continue whimpering and sniveling with all the other girls of your ilk.
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
MikeP
March 9th, 2011
12:18 am
For those that remember that the subject of this thread was some alleged tapes bammer fan Scott Moore had and was going to play, thus bringing big trouble on Auburn and Tennessee, hold off on the celebration.
Today the Huntsville, Alabama radio station that Moore works for, the place where he was going to air the tapes, fired him. Seems he didn’t have any tapes after all.
But never forget, where there’s smoke there’s fire, so Scott Moore is bound to have something incriminating, right? Keep on telling yourselves that “smoke there’s fire’ story. What it means in the real world is where there’s smoke there is somebody like Scott Moore blowing smoke, no fire at all.
Lou Dorris
March 9th, 2011
8:28 am
Why does the AJC give so much print to Cam Newton ? In my opinion he should be procecuted along with his daddy. It shouldn’t take much common sense to know that he knew about the money deal. If the NCAA will keep looking, they will find the proof. It looks to me that they don’t want the truth to be found out. This can only get worse if it is not stopped.
MikeP
March 9th, 2011
10:19 am
Lou Dorris: How long do you want them to look? They investigated from July through November. When, on December 2nd, the NCAA declared Cam Newton “Eligible Without Condition” they were satisfied with their investigation and through with it.
If, of course, you have one single scrap of evidence, by all means turn it over to them. After five months of searching they had nothing and moved on. The only way that investigation becomes active again is if new evidence appears because five months of investigating assured the NCAA that Cam Newton and Auburn are clean.
Einstein
March 9th, 2011
11:48 pm
What’s the probability that a player would be shopped to more than one program, but would end up at another program with a history of paying players, for free?