Oh, about that ‘Cam Newton tape’: Not so fast, my friends
Can anyone "authenticate" that this is actually Cam Newton? (AJC photo by Brant Sanderlin)
Yesterday we noted that Scott Moore, an Alabama entertainer, has been saying he has heard audio tapes of Cecil Newton talking about money in exchange for his famous son’s amateur services. We also noted that Moore has indicated the tapes could prove Cecil Newton’s famous son Cam had been privy to such discussions.
Today, via Sports Radio 97.7 The Zone in Huntsville, we learn that Moore isn’t sure of … well, of much of anything. From SportsByBrooks’ transcription of Moore’s appearance on Cole Cubelic’s morning show:
I’ve heard a voice on that tape that said there’s an offer for $180,000 from Auburn and this is Cecil Newton … This is what I’ve been told was Cecil Newton. I’ve never heard Cecil talk before … but I was told by those guys [Mississippi State boosters John Bond and Bill Bell] that this was Cecil talking and Kenny Rogers [another Mississippi State figure] is on these tapes as well. I’m going based on what I’ve heard.
Then this:
I’m going to play this [alleged Newton tape] on the air [of Moore's own radio show] and we’re going to talk about this on the air; then let’s get that voice authenticated.
I believe I can speak for all of us when I say: The man wants to put something on the air before having it authenticated? And he wants us to take him seriously?
Oh, and we should also note that SportsByBrooks, which does nice work, is reporting that a source “indicated that Bond and Bell have no audio file or tape containing the voice of Cecil Newton.”
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trupert
March 3rd, 2011
3:37 pm
….And your comments about Auburn paying players for over 5 decades, where do you get that from….any source or did you just make it up?
I have answered that question and the reason that I bring up 50 year old data is because Auburn is being rightly or wrongly accused of doing the same thing as they have done in the passed, the same things that coach Jordon was proven guilty of, the same things that coach Dye was proven guilty of and the same thing that coach Bowden admitted to doing, paying players.
UGA dosen’t ignore our problems or sweep them under the rug. When you make the school look bad as in what our former AD did we thank him for doing a good job prior to the indiscretion and part company with him.
Now at Auburn, they handle these things a little diffrently as in the cases of coaches Jordon and Dye. Both of these coaches were proved to have paid players and Dye was not only reassigned to another position but the playing field was named in his honor and again Auburn was so proud of the accomplishments of coach Jordon that they named their stadium after this coach who was caught again paying players.
As far as the player arrests at Ga, atleast these players were held accountable for their actions, while at Auburn, the campus police don’t hand these players over to the real police they simply hand them over to a coach or dean. Yes they do things a little differently in ol Alabama.
Erskine
March 3rd, 2011
3:55 pm
I always thought “The lovliest village on the plains” was meant as sarcasm.
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
4:23 pm
trupert, don’t try to confuse these AU folks with facts. They get really annoyed.
DaMan
March 3rd, 2011
5:04 pm
So the UGA holier than thou attitude rears it’s head again…..please…..as an objective football fan, I’m not blind to the fact that almost every school provides some sort of “extra benefit” to their players (i.e. Herschel driving a new Trans Am at UGA —from his parents? Doubt it)…..the LaMichael James kid at Oregon driving a new Escalade and when asked about it, he said he and a friend “switched cars” (yea right, I’ll take your Escalade and you take my 1974 Honda Civic, that works)….so while I don’t agree at all with paying student athletes (their tuition is their payment, it’s their job to take advantage of it), most players are getting paid, bottom line….so it’s just a matter of who gets caught….
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
7:02 pm
I sure wish that trupert wasn’t a stone cold RACIST!
His venomous, jealous vitriol is SICKENING!!!
WAR EAGLE!!!
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
7:10 pm
Wow, DaMan, I actually agree with you on something. I’ve heard lots of people say that college football players should be paid. Well, they are. Lots. If you figure 4 years of tuition, room and board, books, etc., these kids get well over $150,000 worth of education. And it should pay off if they go to class and stay out of trouble.
Where we differ is on the Herschel point. I’ve never heard any mention about him before the Cam thing. I know that boosters help kids from time-to-time. But when we start talking about institutionally paying kids, and to the tune of $200,000, that’s criminal.
Aubies are constantly taking different defensive postures. First it was “he was never paid”. Then it was “well there’s no proof”. Now it’s “well everybody does it”. What’s next?
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
7:49 pm
The Money – No, the stance remains he was never paid.
Keep on crying your eyes out like a little girl!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
AUBURN UNIVERSITY 2010 BCS CHAMPIONS!!!
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
7:56 pm
2smartjones, I hope you’re a teenager. Because if you’re an adult……………………
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
8:01 pm
Of course I’m an adult.
The Money – Do you walk upright? Because if you do………
MikeP
March 3rd, 2011
8:48 pm
Columbus Dawg
March 3rd, 2011
10:44 am
“Auburn University has been sited as being the third most penalized team in the history of the NCAA.”
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Auburn has seven major violations. Georgia has six and bammer is currently on probation. What’s your point, Columbus Dawg?
Nobody in the Newton family got any extra benefits from Auburn or anywhere else. I know this because….wait for it….The NCAA had a team of investigators work the case from July through November of 2010. They found nothing. When their investigation was finished, they declared Cam Newton “Eligible Without Condition” on December 2nd. Game, set and match to Auburn. Oh yeah, National Championship to Auburn too.
There is nothing out there past the NCAA’s final determination except the drooling of jealous losers. Can’t wait for spring practice when Gene Chizik and his energetic young staff will start building for a repeat performance. I do believe back-to-back championships for the Auburn Tigers will really make you whiners have a stroke.
The Money's Too Much
March 3rd, 2011
9:25 pm
MikeP and 2smartjones, you guys always seem to post at about the same time. And you both seem like 5th graders. Maybe you should meet.
I keep seeing this comparison about major NCAA infractions. You list UGA’s as 6 and AU’s as 7. The list below doesn’t mention UGA, but talks a lot about AU. Seems that AU’s 7 were all in football, something about paying players. Hmmmmmm. They must have it all wrong. We all know that AU wouldn’t pay players because that would mean really, really severe penalties.
Most NCAA Infractions: The Record No Team Wants To Hold
By Cody Dockens (Correspondent) on August 3, 2010 3,468
In the wake of the USC/Reggie Bush scandal, one can’t help but wonder which teams and conferences have had the most sanctions and what were the reasons for them. There are many teams who have committed major infractions, and there have been almost as many types of punishments as there have been rule breakers. Below you will find the list of the teams with the most infractions,details of both the well known and lesser known scandals and their fallouts, and I will name the dirtiest coach in football as well.
1.Southern Methodist (SMU):Eight, all football.
2.Arizona State:Eight, mostly baseball.
3.Auburn:Seven, mixed bag of violations, biggest were football.
4.Florida State: Seven academic scandals mostly involving all sports. Most publicized were football related.
5.Oklahoma:Seven, five were football related.
6-10:Memphis, Texas A&M, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Wichita State also all had seven violations but none as big as the mentioned before.
Perhaps both the best and least well known example of rules violation and punishment is the 1986 case against SMU. From 1974-1985 the SMU Mustangs were caught for five major NCAA violations (for a grand total of seven), averaging a major infraction about every other year. Many of the violations concerned the payment of players, or a slush fund made available to them. After an NCAA investigation found that over $61,000 was made available to a player, the NCAA handed down what was known as the death penalty. SMU’s 1987 season would be cancelled along with all 1988 home games.
They would lose 55 scholarships over the next four years and be barred from off-campus recruiting. Most all the team transferred, resulting in them having to cancel the partial 1988 season as well. From 1980-1986 SMU’s record was 52-19-1, and since their record is 64-158-3.
Auburn has had seven violations for various causes, the worst of which consisted of boosters paying players for performance. Players got paid to play and received “bonuses” for forced fumbles, touchdowns, interceptions etc. This happened while Pat Dye was the head coach, and reports indicate that Pat Dye himself was directly involved with helping players secure illegal loans from banks.
2smartjones
March 3rd, 2011
9:59 pm
The Money – Talk about acting like a 5th grader! Are you the middle school social chair???
Why are you always suggesting people should meet one another???
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
AUBURN UNIVERSITY 2010 BCS CHAMPIONS!!!
DaMan
March 4th, 2011
12:15 am
You guys can haggle and argue all you want to about gossip and hearsay, but all I know is that it was a total blast watching the Auburn Tigers play this season…….so many close games, such a great comeback against Alabama, the 65-43 win against Arkansas (I never thought Auburn would give up 43 points at home….much less still win the game by 22 points!!)…….and my son and I were lucky enough to see 10 of the 14 games (including NC game in Glendale), so you guys can have all of the rhetoric, the games played on the field made it one of the most enjoyable seasons I can remember…..
2smartjones
March 4th, 2011
1:57 am
WINNING!!!
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/03/john_bonds_attorney_says_inter.html
And It's Only Gotten Worse
March 4th, 2011
10:12 am
Auburn has had seven violations for various causes, the worst of which consisted of boosters paying players for performance. Players got paid to play and received “bonuses” for forced fumbles, touchdowns, interceptions etc. This happened while Pat Dye was the head coach, and reports indicate that Pat Dye himself was directly involved with helping players secure illegal loans from banks.
2smartjones
March 4th, 2011
11:19 am
And it’s Only – Scoreboard, son! Read it and weep!
Auburn University, reigning NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!
WINNING!!!
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/03/john_bonds_attorney_says_inter.html
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
All In(volved)
March 4th, 2011
4:02 pm
Again, Auburn has had seven violations for various causes, the worst of which consisted of boosters paying players for performance. Players got paid to play and received “bonuses” for forced fumbles, touchdowns, interceptions etc. This happened while Pat Dye was the head coach, and reports indicate that Pat Dye himself was directly involved with helping players secure illegal loans from banks.
2smartjones
March 4th, 2011
7:55 pm
All in/And it’s – or whatever other name you sashay over and pull out of your dress closet, just KEEP ON CRYING, little girl!!! LOL!!!
AUBURN UNIVERSITY 2010 BCS CHAMPIONS!!!
EAT IT, All in/And it’s!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
All In(volved)
March 4th, 2011
9:24 pm
Who are you Aubies trying to convince, us or yourselves?
2smartjones
March 4th, 2011
10:25 pm
We convinced THE WORLD all season long and on Jan. 10th, 2011 in Glendale.
Now we’re just LAUGHING at CRYING little girls like YOU, (volved)!!!!
You are a TRUE PANTY WAISTE!!!
LOL!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
All In(volved)
March 4th, 2011
11:43 pm
Yea, keep telling yourself that.
2smartjones
March 5th, 2011
12:03 am
(volved) : “Boo Hooo! Auburn University didn’t pay anything for Cam!!! BOOOO HOOO all of our fantasies, hopes and dreams have been CRUSHED. Booo Hoooo, I’m just a crying little girl named (volved) and I’ve cried so hard that I soiled my panties! BOOOOO HOOOOO Auburn is going to be just fine after all! BOOOOO HOOOO!”
LOL!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
MikeP
March 5th, 2011
12:37 am
The Money, I don’t know where you got that bogus list you posted. Here’s a valid list:
“List of NCAA Schools with Infractions
Institutions with Major Infractions
Institution – Number of Major Infractions
Arizona State University 8
Southern Methodist University 8
Auburn University 7
Texas A&M University, College Station 7
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities 7
University of Oklahoma 7
University of Wisconsin, Madison 7
Wichita State University 7
Florida State University 6
Kansas State University 6
University of California, Berkeley 6
University of California, Los Angeles 6
University of Georgia 6
University of Illinois, Champaign 6
University of Kansas 6
University of Kentucky 6
University of Memphis 6
See Georgia on there at six? I do.
Here’s the link, so you can study it in depth: http://www.trackforum.——com/forums/showthread.php?113778-List-of-NCAA-Schools-with-Infractions
I broke the link so the AJC wouldn’t get all confused about it. Just delete five dashes—– in the middle of it, read the accurate information and weep. See, had you attended Auburn University you would know how to find accurate information and how to avoid getting duped by internet bloggers. Clearly, it was your loss.
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
10:42 am
As the SEC’s dirtiest program, Auburn has had seven violations for various causes, the worst of which consisted of boosters paying players for performance. Players got paid to play and received “bonuses” for forced fumbles, touchdowns, interceptions etc. This happened while Pat Dye was the head coach, and reports indicate that Pat Dye himself was directly involved with helping players secure illegal loans from banks.
MikeP
March 5th, 2011
12:15 pm
All involved, that is the first I’ve heard of such things. Do you have a link to reputable site, or are you merely babbling your wishful thinking on a message board.?
I do find it odd that the NCAA didn’t find any of these things when they investigated 20 years ago. Got a clue as to why they didn’t find this stuff?
My guess is they didn’t find it because none of this ever happened. If it makes you happy to type it, even if you don’t believe it, go ahead and type.
It’s pretty cool, watching all the jealous losers make stuff up about Auburn. You’d be better served to address your own school’s problems, but whatever floats your boat, y’all are amusing, and quite creative in a third-grade sort of way.
My favorite to date is “The NCAA is really gonna’ get you but they can’t do anything until after the FBI finishes.” Now there’s a real hoot!
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:27 pm
MikeP,
See below. Congrats, AU & SMU get the most ink in the article. Two of a kind like you and 2smartjones.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/428918-most-ncaa-infractions-the-record-no-team-wants-to-hold
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:30 pm
Here’s another article that’ll make Aubies proud of their “clean” program.
http://blog.al.com/press-register-sports/2010/05/sound_off_auburn_is_not_most_p.html
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:33 pm
Any time you Google NCAA infractions, Auburn is always mentioned in the article. Seems to be a pattern. Of course though, we know that Cam wasn’t paid, right?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-ncaacheating092308
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:36 pm
I couldn’t support a program like this:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2010-11-09-auburn-newton-cover_N.htm
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:37 pm
http://www.gamblingiq.com/forum/online-gambling-general-discussion/37662.htm
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:38 pm
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2010/11/9/1802934/cam-newton-florida-auburn-cheating-laptop-theft-expulsion
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:40 pm
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Source-says-Newton-left-Florida-after-cheating-scandal
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:41 pm
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2010-11/cam-newton-probe/story/report-auburn-qb-newton-cheated-as-a-florida-student
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
2:44 pm
I wonder what kind of “student” Cam was at AU.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5783051
MikeP
March 5th, 2011
3:25 pm
If you’ll note, every story about Cam Newton cheating at Florida credits Thayer Evans at FoxSports.com as the source. His tale was debunked by the Houston Chronicle, Gainesville Sun and Yahoo sports.com. I’ve posted the links in Chip Tower’s thread.
Evans was fired from the N.Y. Times for making things up about players at Texas and Kentucky. It won’t be long before FoxSports.com fires him for making up things about Auburn.
Here’s a tad from the Yahoo Sports article, just to get you started:
“FoxSports.com writer Thayer Evans published a story today alleging Auburn quarterback Cameron Newton “had three different instances of academic cheating while attending the University of Florida.”
The story follows several days of editorial attacks on Newton by Thayer, a former stringer for the New York Times.
Two independent sources with detailed knowledge of the UF academic discipline system during the period in question have disputed the Evans story. According to the sources, no allegations of academic impropriety regarding Cam Newton were sent to the Florida Student Conduct Committee at any time either during or after Newton’s time at UF.”
Check out the rest of it at the link I posted in Chip’s thread. I promise you won’t like what you see.
The few of your links that don’t credit Evans as the source are ,uh, Bleacher Reports, blogs and “sound off” by jealous rival fans..
Also, where’s the link about Pat Dye paying players for big hits and so forth? That should be some great reading! But you can’t find anything of the sort, correct?
This whole thing has been just silly. Had Auburn done anything wrong, the NCAA would have found it in five months of investigation, to say nothing of scumballs like Thayer Evans and Joe Schadd lurking around in the bushes.
You need a new hobby, the “Auburn beat us because they cheated” excuse is getting worn out.
All In(volved)
March 5th, 2011
6:01 pm
Lol, you Aubies! Deny, deny, deny……. “the world is out to get us” blah, blah, blah. There’s no debating with someone who ingores the facts. You know the truth, we know the truth, and the people who wrote those articles knows the truth. Stop trying to convice the world that the sky is green. We all know it’s not.
Real dawg
March 5th, 2011
10:08 pm
auburn and tennessee—dirtiest programs in the SEC. slive needs to crack down and get these programs cleaned up.
2smartjones
March 5th, 2011
10:17 pm
(volved) You sad little girl! I feel so badly for you girl, because I know you just can’t help your feminine self! You just go ahead and keep on having your cathartic, girlie cry, (volved)!
“BOOO HOOOO, Auburn University didn’t pay a dime for Cameron Newton! BOOO HOOOOO all of our hopes, fantasies and unrealistic dreams are TOTALLY DASHED!!! BOOOO HOOO there was NOTHING unfair in AUBURN UNIVERSITY beating our little girl asses! BOOOO HOOO! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is going to come out of ALL THESE TEARS us girls keep CRYING! BOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOO !!!!!”
LOL!!!
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
MikeP
March 6th, 2011
9:45 am
We deny doing anything wrong, that’s what the Just and Righteous do. If Auburn is a dirty program, all you have to do is prove it.
It’s been 20 years since the Auburn football program had any major violation, 31 years since a recruiting violation.
It do think it may be pointless to have a discussion with someone who links to blogs and “sound-off” sections as though they are articles from a legitimate source. You didn’t attend UGA or any other college did you?
The slightest bit of higher education would have prevented you from making such a gaffe.
All In(volved)
March 6th, 2011
10:40 am
One morning we’re going to open the paper and see that the NCAA, through their continuing investigation of AU, has done the right thing. Until then, tell all of this to another Aubie. You’re the only ones who believe it. If you really do.
MikeP
March 6th, 2011
9:20 pm
Sure I believe it. I believed it before December 2nd because I have confidence in Gene Chizik and the other Auburn people involved. I have even more confidence after December 2nd. That’s the day the NCAA declared Cam Newton “Eligible Without Condition”.
It’s odd that so many of you can’t see that as the end of it. I think you really do see that ended it, but to admit that means admitting Auburn whipped you straight up and many of you aren’t man enough to handle that.
2smartjones
March 7th, 2011
4:21 pm
(volved), one morning you’re going to wake up and you’ll be wearing a clown suit instead of the skirt you have on now. Then we will know that your girlish tears have ceased to flow. Until then, continue whimpering and sniveling with all the other girls of your ilk.
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!
MikeP
March 9th, 2011
12:18 am
For those that remember that the subject of this thread was some alleged tapes bammer fan Scott Moore had and was going to play, thus bringing big trouble on Auburn and Tennessee, hold off on the celebration.
Today the Huntsville, Alabama radio station that Moore works for, the place where he was going to air the tapes, fired him. Seems he didn’t have any tapes after all.
But never forget, where there’s smoke there’s fire, so Scott Moore is bound to have something incriminating, right? Keep on telling yourselves that “smoke there’s fire’ story. What it means in the real world is where there’s smoke there is somebody like Scott Moore blowing smoke, no fire at all.
Lou Dorris
March 9th, 2011
8:28 am
Why does the AJC give so much print to Cam Newton ? In my opinion he should be procecuted along with his daddy. It shouldn’t take much common sense to know that he knew about the money deal. If the NCAA will keep looking, they will find the proof. It looks to me that they don’t want the truth to be found out. This can only get worse if it is not stopped.
MikeP
March 9th, 2011
10:19 am
Lou Dorris: How long do you want them to look? They investigated from July through November. When, on December 2nd, the NCAA declared Cam Newton “Eligible Without Condition” they were satisfied with their investigation and through with it.
If, of course, you have one single scrap of evidence, by all means turn it over to them. After five months of searching they had nothing and moved on. The only way that investigation becomes active again is if new evidence appears because five months of investigating assured the NCAA that Cam Newton and Auburn are clean.
Einstein
March 9th, 2011
11:48 pm
What’s the probability that a player would be shopped to more than one program, but would end up at another program with a history of paying players, for free?