
John Dewberry helped Bill Curry win in Athens in 1984. The QB was no help in Birmingham in 1985. (AJC file photo)
Update: Georgia Tech announced Sunday that three more players — defensive Anthony Egbuniwe and defensive backs Michael Peterson and Louis Young — has been suspended for the first half of Monday’s Independence Bowl. They broke curfew in Shreveport, which I believe trumps John Dewberry’s curfew-breaking in Birmingham in 1985 for sheer ingenuity.
It’s that festive time of the year when Georgia Tech lets us know which of its players won’t be playing in a bowl game. The Jackets arrived in scenic Shreveport on Thursday, just in time to offer the following release:
Shreveport, La. – Georgia Tech announced today that four football players, including two who have already earned their undergraduate degrees, will not play in Monday’s AdvoCare V100 Independence Bowl because of various academic issues.
Senior defensive end Robert Hall and senior linebacker Anthony Barnes are ineligible to compete in the game against Air Force under NCAA academic guidelines. Sophomore wide receiver Stephen Hill and senior safety Mario Edwards are both ineligible for not meeting Georgia Tech academic requirements.
Of the four players, Edwards and Hill were listed as starters on the Yellow Jackets’ most recent depth chart.
A few questions: How can you earn your degree and still be academically ineligible? Has any Jacket had a more disappointing season than Hill, who was touted as the next Demaryius Thomas but who hasn’t played well and now won’t play in the bowl game at all?
There’s a time-honored Jacket tradition of players getting docked for the postseason. Usually it’s the quarterback: John Dewberry was suspended for the All-American Bowl in 1985 for breaking curfew in Birmingham, which is tough to do, and in 2006 Reggie Ball was declared ineligible for the Gator Bowl, which brought a strange career to its inevitably strange end.
These latest suspensions constitute just another installment in an ongoing Tech saga. On the bright side, the Tech Four won’t be remembered as the most egregious college football development of Dec. 23, 2010. That dishonor belongs to five Ohio State Buckeyes, chief among them quarterback Terrelle Pryor, who were suspended for five games of the 2011 season — though not for the Sugar Bowl — for NCAA violations that include receiving improper benefits from …
A tattoo parlor. Seriously.
By Mark Bradley
372 comments Add your comment
2BT
December 23rd, 2010
7:44 pm
such a hater!
mwh6767
December 23rd, 2010
7:46 pm
Mark, fyi it was Mario Butler who had the int and touchdown return against duke. I know that takes a little sizzle off you column because Edwards really didn’t accomplish anything this year.
The Dude
December 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm
Mark,
Hall and Barnes have graduated and exhausted all their eligibility. They don’t have the option of applying to grad school to play in the bowl game.
mwh6767
December 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm
Of the four player really the only one that hurts Tech is Robert Hall. He wasn’t a starter( was last year until injury) but was getting significant minutes in the d-line rotation and IMO when the line consisted of him, Cross and Barnes was much better against the run. Bout the only thing Stephen Hill had a chance of catching in Sherevport was the FLU.
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm
say it ain’t so Mark!
It makes no sense
December 23rd, 2010
7:51 pm
I can’t wait for the explanation on how graduates at the Joke by Coke can be academically ineligible…..It will make as much sense as an NCAA ruling these days.
Seriously?
December 23rd, 2010
7:52 pm
I would much rather have only 4 deemed academically ineligible than 11 players arrested. Which “saga” is more important there Mark?
Typical
December 23rd, 2010
7:52 pm
On the bright side… These 4 can now go buy tickets for the UGA bowl game since those red & black folks can’t sell half of their allotment.
brandy
December 23rd, 2010
7:53 pm
where the blank is the academic advisor/coach for the football team? That is who should have to answer for not monitoring the progress of Hill and Edwards..although the bigger disgrace will always be when the Chan Gailey bunch allowed QB Reggie Ball to miss the Gator bowl game his senior year, what a shame that was. Chan was too busy trying to get a job in the NFL so glad he was canned.
2BT
December 23rd, 2010
7:53 pm
Seriously though, what’s the over/under on the number of your negative articles about GT for the year 2011? I’m going to set the number at 9 1/2. I figure Hewitt will get at least 4 more during the course of this season. D Rad will earn 1 or 2 more for not taking the Maryland AD’s lead and pulling the trigger a la Friedgen. Danny Hall will somehow draw your negative pen at least once. The question is, will next year’s football team Constitute (no pun intended) at least 3 or 4 hatchet jobs? I’ll take the over.
2BT
December 23rd, 2010
7:55 pm
and btw, first. Guess I can sleep better because of that!
sharecropper
December 23rd, 2010
7:56 pm
Well, I get it that two of them “exhausted” their eligibility. What I don’t get is: isn’t this bowl game part of the 2010 season, and not of the 2011 season? I find that very odd, to punish with ineligibility two guys who did what “scholar athletes” — a fraudulent NCAA term if ever uttered — are supposed to do but frequently do not: graduate.
Mark Bradley
December 23rd, 2010
7:57 pm
Kudos, 2BT.
And I’m sorry, but I don’t see much “hating” herein.
Worm
December 23rd, 2010
7:57 pm
john D.U.I. Berry..Remember him well…Tech 45-Dawgs-13-Dewberry .16
A woman beater and a guy who robbed the pizza man are declared ineligibile-SHOCKING
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
7:57 pm
Mark, did you see where Jim Tressel and Gene Smith tried to fall on their swords and say the players weren’t “properly educated” on the rules of selling memorabilia?
Mark Bradley
December 23rd, 2010
7:58 pm
I’m pretty sure A.J. Green could have offered a seminar, Coach Grantham.
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm
No one even remotely connected with college football has not heard about AJ and the sold jersey. And the 4 game suspension.
Do I understand correctly that those Ohio State players will play in the Sugar Bowl but are suspended for 5 games next season?
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:01 pm
Maybe “properly educated” means how to get away with it.
Worm
December 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
Eddie Mcshan is off the hook for the 70 or 71 bowl game?
mwh6767
December 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
2BT, take the under. Bradley just wrote two articles in two days about Tech. That will cover his Tech quoto til this coming August when he will write an article about how Tech has no talent on the team and won’t win 3 games. He will back to writing about the color of Richts poop, to which the uga fans will give him heck about the article being negative. So the next day to get back in their good graces he will write another article about even though the poop was an ugly brown color it smelt like rosebuds.
mwh6767
December 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
excuse me it should have said quota.
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December 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm
Hope Hill will study hard and play/have a great season next year in the (I’m sure) expanded Tech pass game!
GT Won This Game Too
December 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm
Eighteenth!
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Dirty Jacket
December 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
“Usually it’s a QB” — and then you cited TWO whole quarterbacks, separated by two decades? Two of them are not NCAA deemed suspensions — Edwards and Hill did not meet Georgia Tech requirements. Has UGA ever suspended a player who met the NCAA requirements? Probably not.
So Bradley, please continue with your UGA biased opinions. How did it feel when you didn’t get accepted into Tech?
Mark Bradley
December 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
Actually, Eddie McAshan wasn’t just suspended for the 1972 Liberty Bowl. He was suspended for the Georgia game, too. (He’d skipped a practice because his request for extra tickets to the game in Sanford Stadium was denied.)
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:05 pm
the fact of the matter is this: these players see the coaches making major bucks off of their sweat and talent and just want a piece of the action. Who can blame them? The NCAA with all its corruption? Mike Slive?? Give me a break.
fire Paul Hewitt
December 23rd, 2010
8:05 pm
The last news report said Ohio players would play…..whats the deal?
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
Mark, Eddie was before your time in ATL but I’m sure you know his surname was pronounced “Macshan”. I remember that from Al Ciraldo, may he rest in peace.
Mark Bradley
December 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
The Buckeyes were suspended for five games next season but can play in the Sugar Bowl.
I know. Makes no sense.
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:07 pm
Unfortunately, when Gene Smith told those players to take the fifth they swilled a bottle of Jack Daniel’s. heh, heh
bob
December 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm
At least they can now sell their jerseys.
Mark Bradley
December 23rd, 2010
8:10 pm
Eddie McAshan was before my time as a player. But he lived across the street from me back in the ’90s.
BG
December 23rd, 2010
8:11 pm
HAHAHAHAHA! Tech sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!
mwh6767
December 23rd, 2010
8:11 pm
According to Espn the Ncaa said that bowl game and champ. games fall under different rules than the reg. season games and the Ncaa says they make rulings on them in case by case basis. Their reasoning for letting them play was that the players thought it was their property and they thought they could sell it and the team and university didn’t benifit from the sell of the items. So what happened? Did UGA get a kickback on the AJ Green jersey or something?
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:12 pm
it must appall you Mark, having been on the sports scene for 30 plus years to see how college football has changed. the younger folks don’t recall anything about being able to sneak into Sanford stadium and sit on the grass, or watching from the railroad tracks or bridge. There are now even adverts in the Men’s rooms. And God forbid listening to the radio without hearing how (insert your favorite advertiser here) sponsored the kickoff, punt, offsides, and personal foul.
it sure appalls me.
mwh6767
December 23rd, 2010
8:13 pm
And Bradley commenting of a Tech article. Richt must be constipated!!
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:14 pm
If Tressel, etal, had any morals about them they wouldnt let those players near the Louisiana Dome.
bob
December 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm
Too bad they are not going to a BCS bowl, the NCAA would probably let them play and then declare them ineligible for 2011.
5150 P.O.A.D.
December 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm
Not sure how the 2 seniors that graduated last weekend can be ineligible. Can we get an explanation? Hill we might miss for 1 pass catch, but he has had such a bad year. Edwards and Hall really hurt. I. Johnson will have to step up and play the whole game.
Biff Pocoroba
December 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm
Paul Hewitt must be happy. This takes some focus off of his “team” losing to the school he used to “coach”. How much longer must we put up with him? I’m sure it is still the fault of the media or the fans though. I’m waiting on his Christmas tweet to find out what happened last night.
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:17 pm
but money, not morals, rules college sports.
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:18 pm
Mark, remeber etal from law classes? “and others”
Worm
December 23rd, 2010
8:18 pm
Mark, McAshan was a fabulous athlete..Might have been a better basketball player..Tony Flanigan, Ronald Curry, Nick Marshall type…Merry Christmas!
Mark Bradley
December 23rd, 2010
8:19 pm
I remember “et alia” from Latin.
Latin is a dead language, as dead as dead can be. First it killed the Romans; now it’s killing me.
JB
December 23rd, 2010
8:23 pm
Watch the spin….LMAO……. The worlds smartest players playing for the worlds greatest College football coach. Will this effect their “for sure” professional business future that ALL Tech men share….Maybe Reggie Ball can help them get in with his firm……………Air Tran………………………..LOL
mwh6767
December 23rd, 2010
8:31 pm
JB I wouldn’t toot my uga horn too loudly. As of tueday afternoon the bulldogs where waiting on grades for several players including Caleb King. And just so you don’t say thats just a rumor from a nerd “techie” that came from your own dawgs247.com
bruce mac
December 23rd, 2010
8:39 pm
Good news Tech fans, UGA just found there own Kennesaw State. Mercer is making them look absolutely pitiful. Totally out hustled and out coached as well. UGA is who we thought they were,, average.
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:39 pm
that was the pic of John Dewberry about 5 hours before he pulled a DUI in Athens. I dont think Bill Curry was so pleased with him at that point. heh, heh
interesting
December 23rd, 2010
8:41 pm
I guess the tech guys need those UGA basket weaving classes
g
December 23rd, 2010
8:41 pm
I just cannot get over this Ohio State thing. This makes the NCAA look really bad, not suspended for Sugar Bowl. Money at the root??
dawg4u
December 23rd, 2010
8:41 pm
All of this talk about Eddie McAshan brings me back to one of the best Tech-UGA games ever on Thanksgiving night in 1971. I was 16 years old and remember that UGA had only lost to Auburn and the great Pat Sullivan, who probably won the Heisman based on his perfomance against us. Tech was 6-3 at the time and McAshan got Tech out to a quick 14-0 lead before we woke up. Tech really dominated that game until the fourth quarter where they had a 24-21 lead and we won in the last minute with a goal line run by Jimmy Poulus. Same day as the great Oklahoma-Nebraska game won by Nebraska 35-31. The two greatest games of college football came on that day in November of 1971 and I am 56 years old now.
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:42 pm
I do believe, as Latin says, a prima facia case has been built against certain buckeyes.
Shane
December 23rd, 2010
8:44 pm
yeah im sure all those intelligent uga players all passed their classes! i guess if you majored in afro studies or sports management or music you did!
Dog kicker
December 23rd, 2010
8:46 pm
Mark Bradley, You Are A IDIOT !!
Dog kicker
December 23rd, 2010
8:46 pm
Enter your comments here
todd grantham
December 23rd, 2010
8:49 pm
i’m so disappointed said tressel
these players took a ride on this vessel
if they’d come to me
with this monetary plea
none would be in this messel
Mark (a different one)
December 23rd, 2010
8:53 pm
The secret is to have a nine person compliance organization, and fail to properly educate the players as to the rules. Ohio State threw themselves on the sword to get the NCAA to allow their players to play in the Bowl. Oh yeah, AD Smith said the athletes did it because they needed money. When asked about the discounted or free tattoos, he tried to laugh that off. At the end of the press conference, he joked about putting a tattoo artist in the athletic building so as to avoid future issues. He needs to understand that the tattoos need to be provided to the entire student body, or it will be an improper benefit to his athletes. If in doubt, maybe he should hire a different nine people for his compliance team, and then ask for guidance.
UGA has suspended players this year that were not required to be suspended by the NCAA. Ask King and King (running back and receiver) for two examples.
I am curious how someone can graduate and not be academically eligible. Any chance of an explanation that doesn’t violate these players rghts? I am a dawg fan but I will be pulling for Tech Monday.
Reggie Ball
December 23rd, 2010
9:01 pm
Marbury and me don’t think Tech was that hard
Tech Man
December 23rd, 2010
9:07 pm
Let’s get down to serious issues. How do we get rid of Hewitt…………….
JB
December 23rd, 2010
9:08 pm
Unlike at Tech, every time Reggie throws a suit case on the conveyor belt, he hits it. Fly Air Tran
JB
December 23rd, 2010
9:09 pm
TECH MAN……………………..7 big ones………..As in millions
Skitty Fritty
December 23rd, 2010
9:10 pm
Bruce Mac:
How does UGA beating Mercer by 3 resemble GT losing to KSU? I know Tech men think they are smart but I am not following your logic on this one.
JB
December 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm
Tech ought to sue Ex AD Braine…………….He must of been mad at Tech, and did that contract on purpose, almost did y’all in also resigning Gailey for 5 years when y’all were grumbling.
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
We as UGA fans are told ALL THE TIME how Georgia Tech ONLY recruits the TRUE STUDENT-athletes.
We as UGA fans are ridiculed constantly by Georgia Tech fans(sic) saying that our athletes are dumb as dirt and do not care about academics.
We as UGA fans think this yearly tradition is HILLARIOUS!!!!!!!
Robert Hall is more embarassing than ANY UGA player who has had toruble. He beat a woman AND is an idiot academically.
TECH ATHLETICS ARE A SHAM!!!!!!!!
42-34
9-1
61-39-5
YOU SUCK!!!!!
Don't Ask Don't Tell
December 23rd, 2010
9:14 pm
The picture in this article coincides perfectally with the repeal of “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell”. Dewberry thinks Curry is dreamy!
JB
December 23rd, 2010
9:15 pm
Dewberry has become rich, this Dawg fan knows.
Don't Ask Don't Tell
December 23rd, 2010
9:17 pm
I think Curry has done pretty well for himself also.
rxdawg79
December 23rd, 2010
9:18 pm
@Dirty Jacket: Don’t know if UGA has ever suspended a player who met NCAA qualifications, but they have denied admission to such players in the past. Some high profile kid a couple of years ago who was rejected by Adams, but his name escapes me. Think he went on to enroll at Arkansas.
Don’t know about MB’s allegedly anti-Tech bias. He was one of those writers who proclaimed CPJ the greatest coach in history just a couple of years ago. Seems to me he’s a bit hyperbolic on both sides of the fence.
Skitty Fritty
December 23rd, 2010
9:22 pm
I don’t think MB is anti-Tech. The article after the Tech loss in football praised CPJ for letting UGA score. Personally, thought it was pretty anti-UGA to praise the coach of the losing team but I guess it depends on your viewpoint.
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
9:28 pm
I also find it VERY, VERY, VERY amusing that so many Tech fans are on here trying to discuss the Ohio State players.
Admit it Techies…. this EMBARRASSES YOU!!!!!
INELIGIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
9:33 pm
WHen asked about this situation, the only answers the Techies can come up with, is justifying it with UGA players transgressions.
That to me, is a TRUE sign of weakness.
(((((Tech’s players are dumber than UGA players)))))
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
9:34 pm
I
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Quick Techies!!!! Think of something a UGAplayer or Ohio State player did to justify your boys being STUPID!!!!!!
dog 2
December 23rd, 2010
9:48 pm
NErds, hahahaha, remeber Tyrone Sorells, flunks out of UGA nd enrolls at nerd U on North Ave… give me a break half your team goes to Ga State.. once a dumb nerd always a dumb nerd!
Im just saying
December 23rd, 2010
9:49 pm
DA double douche…I seriously doubt ugump players could even become academically ineligible. BTW how many points do you get for a three made point shot?
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
9:52 pm
im just saying,
Thank you, son. You jus proved a point i made in a post right above yours.
The ONLY justification you have for your players being DUMB AS A BRICK is to crack something on UGA players.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Your “student” athletes are a MUCH bigger joke than UGA’s
42-34
St. Clarkston
December 23rd, 2010
10:00 pm
That 1985 photo was one of about 4 tech wins in the last 25 years.
Kevin
December 23rd, 2010
10:01 pm
haha congrats nerds. The one thing “you had on us” once again just gets thrown back in your face. Hate us all you want, but in the end we’re just better than you
Old Gold
December 23rd, 2010
10:06 pm
Bradley, you are a tool…i already miss Terrance and his race card beeeatch cynthia…You suckit
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:16 pm
St Richster is 9-1 against Georgia Tech.
St Richster is 2-1 against the biggest “genius” in college footbal history, Paul Johnson.
GT '06
December 23rd, 2010
10:17 pm
Hall and Barnes were redshirt seniors and only needed so many hours to graduate and had to take extra hours to meet NCAA eligability rules, and likely didn’t pass those classes, or something to that effect.
Hill and Edwards didn’t meet GEORGIA TECH’S requirements, meaning they probably met NCAA requirements, but Tech holds their athletes to higher standards, so they have to sit.
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:20 pm
But wait, St Richster “should have” lost the 2 wins againt the “genius” right???
So in Tech’s eyes, St Richster is 7-1-2 Moral Victories in Tech’s Favor against Georgia Tech.
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:21 pm
GT 06′,
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! “Tech’s Standards”????????????/
Get off the dream boat son!!!!! Your players are STUPID!!!!!!
GT '06
December 23rd, 2010
10:23 pm
@D A Double U G – When you work your butt off to earn ANY degree, let alone one from Tech, then come talk to me about intelligence
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:24 pm
30-24
73-66
42-34
73-72
How have the last 2 seasons worked out for you Techies against UGA????
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:28 pm
Here is the power of the “mighty” triple option.
GT 06′ makes an appearance at :34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KDrPUcUsFY
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:31 pm
Maybe Tech should quit recruiting such dumb thugs??
Kevin
December 23rd, 2010
10:34 pm
hahaha beautiful video. Ok buddy you keep “working your butt off.” Look at where it’s gotten you; I take it you graduated from Heck in ‘06 and you’re still here patrolling the AJC blogs… congrats loser
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
10:35 pm
Tech sux!
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
10:38 pm
Your players are not any smarter than any others playing Division I football…tech fans just talk it up like they are. And don’t give me this bullcrap about how the classes are tougher. SEC football is tougher than ACC football so cry me a river.
Tech sux and will always suck!
dawgfan
December 23rd, 2010
10:40 pm
Yes Techies, please explain to us how someone can graduate from “The Institute” and still be academically ineligible according to the NCAA. I guess you need to be an engineer to understand it because I don’t get it.
What do a septic tank and a Tech fan have in common? They’re both full of crap.
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
10:44 pm
AND don’t give me this crap about they took the minimum amount of hours because they already graduated…if they were sooooooooo d@mn smart they would have applied to grad school and been eligible for the bowl game and next year. Tech fans are as stupid as their players and COACH man boobs!!! HAHAHAHA
GT '06
December 23rd, 2010
10:45 pm
@D A Double U G – I’m so hurt. I’m glad you get your self worth off of something you never accomplished. How many of those victories by UGA did you play or coach in? My hat goes off to those guys, not to guys who sit in their basement and try so hard to put themselves above others. If you’re so awesome at football how about we put on some pads and go at it…???
@ Kevin – Is getting a job right out of college and being the youngest professional in your national company for THREE years count before someone came in younger count… just curious. And no, I’m not a janitor
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:46 pm
I think it’s safe to say that December 23rd, 2010 is the day that Tech athletic academics have been EXPOSED.
I wouldn’t doubt it if an investigation follows, and serious probation is handed down.
Honestly Techies (and without stuttering and making a UGA joke), explain to us how a player graduates and still is ruled ineligible by the NCAA.
EXPOSED.
42-34
GT '06
December 23rd, 2010
10:47 pm
@ dawgfan – read my earlier post
@ Just saying – you’re right, they probably should have applied for grad school
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
10:47 pm
a tradition and usually a qb? you named one…not much of a tradition….caleb king is apparently ineligible for your dawgs….didnt he get arrested this year too? mark you are a true moron
Glenn
December 23rd, 2010
10:47 pm
Have the UGA academic suspensions been announced yet? I’ve heard several key players are there, including Caleb King…
Kevin
December 23rd, 2010
10:48 pm
ehhh i would say plumber falls into the janitor category
Gator Mike
December 23rd, 2010
10:49 pm
I feel bad for Ga Tech, but I am loving the fact that all of the yankees in/from Ohio now have their Buckeyes in the sewer. What a buch of jerks. The fact that they are being allowed to play in the bowl game only serves to further show how corrupt the BCS really is these days. Woody Hayes would kick these clowns off the team, but tressel wiil b his usual milk toast as the Hogs smoke the buckeyes.
The game is now being run by skunks with no pride.
Go Razorbacks!
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
10:49 pm
High freakin five to D A Double U G! You are wrong though…Tech won’t be investigated because their players attend GA State.
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:51 pm
GT 06′ is DEFINITELY janitor!!!!!!!
Probably at Sanford Stadium.
Again, man, you seriously cannot back up these academic idiots withoutmaking a UGA joke or stab at our players. YOU HAVE BEEN DEFEATED AND EXPOSED!!!!!!
Robert Hall not only beat a woman, he forgot to study. Stephen Hill not only forgot to catch footballs, he forgot to study.
42-34
61-39-5
Matt
December 23rd, 2010
10:52 pm
Where is Mark Bradley when a running back for a “major” football program just down the road is suspended for the bowl game? I guess Caleb King doesn’t deserve the hating of Mark Bradley.
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
10:53 pm
You have to be considered a running back for a “major” football program to be talked about. The only thing Georgia did this year was beat the dawg out of tech!!!!
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:53 pm
kevin,
Robert Hall is academically ineligible. didn;t he get arrested this year too??
Pot, meet Kettle.
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
10:55 pm
Go SCSU Muddawgs!!!! Time for Bobby Bouche to win the Bourbon Bowl!!!!
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:55 pm
Looks like the old joke will continue on after Monday……..
What do Tech Football and Marijuana have in common??
Both are frequently smoked in bowls.
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
10:57 pm
PJ’s understudy at NAVY is getting his tail handed to him!!! Pass some more eggnog this way!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:57 pm
Those Techies trying to justify their IDIOT players with the liklihood that Caleb King is also ineligible,……
UGA fans admit he is an idiot. We are not in denial like you Nerds. We do not claim our NFL minor league football players to be Aerospace Engineers.
Kevin
December 23rd, 2010
10:57 pm
Tech Kevin, go ahead and add an asterisk to your name just to let everybody know that you are the Kevin from the 2nd best college in the state
Volman
December 23rd, 2010
10:58 pm
Mark,
Your posts have been miserable as of late. You need a break.
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:59 pm
Juat Saying!!!,
My god…. I thought Tech’s Nebitt-less version of the Triple Option was ugly…… this NAvy team is AWFUL. It’s a true glimpse at Tech next year. Especially since Stephen Hill will likely transfer or remain STUPID.
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:01 pm
Anybody remember in 2005 when 17 Tech student(sic) athletes were ruled ineligible????
That was just as funny as today.
42-34
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:02 pm
D A Double U G,
I think Old Gold got his feelings hurt! I think him and Tech Kevin are tickle pile spooning down on North Avenue!!!! Navy and Tech are terrible…there is a reason why the triple option is a high school offense and not prominent at Major Universities that play in the MNC!
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:04 pm
D A DOUBLE U G thats my point exactly mark pointing out GT’s players is kinda the pot calling the kettle black…he acts like this is something that is so rare yet look on the internet many many schools have players ineligible for the bowl games…mark acts like every year we get a list of tech player who cannot play in the bowl and it just isnt true..if a player struggles at tech its not exactly a surprise its not the easiest school in the country to make the grade….but the true bottom line is these players are kids and we are throwing rocks at them…no point in that at all….i have zero love for uga but i do not bash the players as they are kids period…hate the school not the kids
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:05 pm
Any word yet on how many Thursday Night games Tech has next year???
I can never decide if I want to watch those, or the local High School’s JV team those nights.
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:05 pm
Tech and Kevin SUX!!!
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:07 pm
kevin,
but your players take classes at Morehouse and Georgia State….. not Georgia Tech, Silly!!!!
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:07 pm
Just Saying…didnt that “high school offense” recently roll up 600 yards of affense against your feared sec defense? we dont lose cuz our offense doesnt work we lose cuz our defense is awful….
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:08 pm
Anybody know what Lincoln County High School’s JV team and Georgia Tech have in common?? Both play on Thursday Nights.
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:09 pm
get a life dadoubleg..they take classes at tech….gotta love all the people who bash gt spend alot of time on comment boards that have something to do with tech…i love it….lol
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:10 pm
kevin,
600 yards on twice the amount of plays UGA put up 500 yards.
But congrats on your Moral Voctory. I am sure that trophy looks great next to Colorado’s 1990 NC trophy in your case.
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:10 pm
Ah….you have done your research D A Double U G!
Kevin,
Who gives a $hit how many yards your d@mn offense put up. The SCORE is what matters! How many yards did your defense give up???
Quit dodging the question…you can’t handle the truth can you Kev???
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:11 pm
AND the hell feared our defense…I never said anyone feared our defense. We sucked and we still beat your @$$!!!!
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:11 pm
Have you Nerds ever thought to use the Property Tax UGA owes on Bobby Dudd Stadium(sic) to buy out Paul Hewitt??
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:11 pm
who the hell…sorry..got excited!!!
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:12 pm
Check out this sketch I made of Paul Johnson…… http://www.coloring-pictures.net/drawings/Droopy/Droopy-is-near-a-door.gif
Neat, huh?
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:12 pm
no moral victory here…i hate it….like i said our defense is awful…AWFUL…you should be proud to put up 500 yards on that defense….i mean duke did too….the reference was to your lover “just saying” making the high school offense comment….isnt the SEC supposed to have the most feared defenses in football? i was just refering to the fact that your Dawgs couldnt get that offense off the field…thats why they had 92 offensive plays and 600 yards
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:13 pm
agreed hewitt needs to go
Old Gold
December 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm
The only tradition that continues here is that Bradley and the AJC suckit…
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm
Nice work D A Double U G!!!!
Kev,
Dont turn the gay jokes on us…your offense still put up less points than ours did. Quit trying to spin this on us. Facts are facts junior! UGA > gtech.
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm
Georgia Tech fan: “We ran for more yards than you ran for!!!!”
UGA fan: “OK. We scored more points than you scored.”
I think I give UGA the edge in that argument…….
Tidomonkey
December 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm
It’s amusing to me to read UGA fans mocking Tech for players being ruled academically ineligible. It’s no shame to the school that its academic rigor is too much for athletes. It’s far more shameful to have a school with classes that a trained monkey could pass.
Before you go insulting Tech’s academics, maybe you should ask yourself, “How may points is a 3 point field goal worth?”
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm
oh i guess you’re one of the 1% that doesnt think every team in the sec has a great defense…..look the offense works the defense doesnt simple as that…if they ever get the defense in order your dawgs and most everbody else will play hell with them…when you average almost 30 points a game you should win….
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:15 pm
You guys suckit…Bradley is soooooooooooo anit-UGA is not even funny.
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:17 pm
We know that tido monkey…coach freakin told us in class. If you would have shown up for class then you would have known that @$$ monkey!
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:18 pm
yes uga won…i didnt deny that…i was simply refering to our high school offense….that is what you called it right? seriously this isnt the nfl…florida runs the spread option and won a NC thats just as much a “high school offense”
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:19 pm
How do you consider an offense that nearly 80% of college runs a high school offense. You, SIR, are an idiot!
Old Gold
December 23rd, 2010
11:19 pm
Bradley is a cynthia Tucker tool…I guess since Terrance is gone, Mr Bradley is doing Cynthia “Race Cardx” Tucker…what a FRIGGIN JOKE…cHESS TEAM CAPTAIN IS WRITING THIS SMUCK
dog2
December 23rd, 2010
11:19 pm
Kevin, go back to poppin your pimples your making an arse of yourself
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:21 pm
it is a version of the triple option jscka$$ just ran out of the shotgun…how many NFL teams run it? none because it is high school….its an option offense no matter where the qb is lined up
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:21 pm
Does anybody remember the time when UGA scored more points that Tech???
yeah…. that was aweosme!!!!
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:24 pm
AHHHH bull$hit…what do you think the wild cat offense is you moron??? A version of the spread and guess who runs that….oh thats right, the NFL!
Did man boobs buy your players a ring to celebrate the 600 yards of offense put up and still lost???
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:24 pm
and TO HELL WITH GEORGIA TECH!!!!!
Goodnight Y’all!!!!!
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:25 pm
STILL. LOST. (key words)
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:26 pm
i remember when they scored more points…im sure you do too…..i just wonder if you guys do the very same thing on the florida boards…. tech lost we understand that…no biggie im gonna go to sleep tonight and wake up in the morning just the same i am just amazed by the stupidity that some fans have….
Just saying!!!
December 23rd, 2010
11:27 pm
AND UTAH got thumped too! You guys can go cry on each others shoulder!
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:29 pm
and just how many teams in the nfl (really) still run the wild cat….the eagles and thats only because they have the fastest man in cleats at qb…it is a version of the triple option….you read the end and give the ball to the back or the qb keeps it….same same….
kevin
December 23rd, 2010
11:30 pm
you guys are the only ones crying…tech lost and we know that…uga looked real good in winning…but yes they won….congrats….way to go….i guess you told me
wreckmaniac
December 23rd, 2010
11:40 pm
Too bad S Hill wasn’t declared ineligible in August.
acowa
December 23rd, 2010
11:49 pm
I have that newspaper framed. Wonderful day in Athens.
Big D Dawg
December 23rd, 2010
11:59 pm
it looks like there’s only 4 year olds from both teams on this blog.
Kevin
December 24th, 2010
12:04 am
fuc$ you big dawg
Sports Review
December 24th, 2010
12:05 am
[...] Yellow Jackets quarterback Joshua Nesbitt will not play in Monday's AdvoCare V100 …A tradition continues: Four players suspended for Tech's bowlAtlanta Journal Constitution [...]
I bought aj green's jersey
December 24th, 2010
12:08 am
da2ug,
let me explain how techs academics work compared to ncaa. Tech expects more out of their students than the ncaa minimum. So the grades would need to be better to meet tech’s standards right?
right?
right?
classes at tech are harder ( and theres no way you can argue against this one amigo) than classes at many other schools and students have a lower gpa. its the rigor that sticks out. It’s like getting a 2.0 at an ivy league school compared to a 3.5 at north georgia. I’m not calling out any school or saying tech is ivy league. This isn’t trying to brag on tech’s academics, I’m just explaining it like how you asked.
I hope your job centers around monitoring the ajc blogs. If it does then you must earn very well. If not, well thats your loss.
Also, if the only thing that matters is uga football because we’re in the south, then I surely hope you are a football coach. If you’re not, then you need to set your priorities because you’re not living to your potential as a human being.
Kevin
December 24th, 2010
12:16 am
Dude, don’t kid yourself. Every school has joke classes (i.e. freshman seminars) that athletes take. On top of that, athletes get free tutoring and also “advantageous” grading from professors. The fact that your boys didn’t make the grades reflects on them as individuals and your program in general. Don’t flatter yourself with “tough classes at Tech” bull.
I bought aj green's jersey
December 24th, 2010
12:28 am
tech has one freshman seminar thats a one hour class. Those guys werent freshmen and werent taking that. Most football players choose mgt as their major, which happens to be a top 30 program. So a top 30 program is filled with of joke classes. please
try housing or social work or maybe turf management
Your Daddy
December 24th, 2010
12:48 am
42-34!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
flagboy?
December 24th, 2010
1:06 am
Rough for anyone to miss the bowl game, especially if it is a kid’s last game. But, as a Dawg fan, I’d rather see Nesbitt on the field instead of any of those guys anyway. The real shame is that his career was cut a little short.
AS FOR THE NCAA and OHIO STATE. . . . i mean, what can you honestly say about that crap. The NCAA is a joke.
gburdell20
December 24th, 2010
1:16 am
Seriously Bradley, you had to do back TWENTY FIVE YEARS to call something at Tech a tradition??
student
December 24th, 2010
1:23 am
I have been a tech fan my entire life and I am now a student. Why the heck are those guys not eligible for our bowl game. Yeah, Hill sucks. But, according to the coaching staff he is the best guy we have. How does the coaching staff let our “best wide receiver” and Mario Edwards not pass class. I am a big CPJ supporter, but that is pathetic. What is wrong with football this year? Also, we all need to start chipping in to get rid of CPH, really sienna? CPH fails again. With all the negativity aside, lets go Jackets and TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!
Sautee Dawg
December 24th, 2010
1:27 am
What’s the matter Mark? slow day, couldn’t dig up anything negative on the Dawgs today?
Suprised you picking on the Gnats.
Paul in RDU
December 24th, 2010
2:12 am
The announcement on the 4 GT players being inelgibible for the bowl game is a little strange and certainly incomplete. There are 2 players who have graduated who aren’t eligible because they have failed to meet NCAA requirements. Then there are 2 players who are ineligible because they failed to meet GT academic standards. As far as the second pair are concerned – what does “failing to meet GT academic requirements” mean? Are they elgible per the NCAA rules?
For the graduates, who knows which NCAA requirements they have not met. I haven’t read anything about them being in graduate school so it is likely that they were taking the minimum hours (NCAA requires 6 completed) and blew a class off – can’t say I blame them. Of course, if they were playing in the Sugar Bowl they could have sold their 2010 Orange Bowl jerseys and been told that they were eligible for Shreveport but had to sit out the first 5 games of 2011.
Urban Meyer and Billy Donavan
December 24th, 2010
4:32 am
Why did the Buckyeye players pay for tattoos? Didn’t they like the ones we put on them in the National Championship Games in 2006?
Oh, and on a side note, wasn’t John Dewberry the former Athens resident/UGA transfer that spanked the puppies who got arrested for cruelty to animals, uh, Dawgs?
Mark Bradley`s Booster
December 24th, 2010
5:29 am
Mark: In this case, I do not think the suspensions of these four GT players (except maybe Edwards) will have a significant impact on the game. Unless Air Force just falls apart, they are the better team and should win regardless of the suspensions. Tech is not a good team and really does not deserve to be in any bowl game.
Douche Patrol
December 24th, 2010
5:43 am
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
11:08 pm
Anybody know what Lincoln County High School’s JV team and Georgia Tech have in common?? Both play on Thursday Nights
________________________________________________________
so did Alabama
OldSchoolGT21
December 24th, 2010
6:14 am
Let us all recall and understand that you can’t get a Tech degree by rolling down your window and driving through campus like you can at UGA. You mean to tell me that Washaywney Easily is a smarter lad than any of these four? That guy is will be pumping gas one day if he’s not in jail. There are bound to be causalities at a school with the toughest academic standards in the southeast. Check US World News and report for the facts on where GT ranks in the southeast. THWG!
Dub Vee
December 24th, 2010
6:21 am
If Hall and Barnes are ineligible because they have graduated and exhausted their eligibility, why call them academically ineligible? Aren’t they ineligible because they are no longer in school — not in undergrad, but not in graduate school either? Can’t play if you don’t go to school at GT.
Looking for clarification here.
NoFKNdog
December 24th, 2010
7:12 am
All you dog fans know it. You cannot escape the fact. Bradley even knows it. Just look in the mirror and you will be reminded.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
bitter rouge agent
December 24th, 2010
7:12 am
I will deliver my kids without any problems, just have your check book out!!!!!!!!!!!1
PS No im not related to father newton, hahahahahahah, pay for play suckers, long live capit— something ism—uh something uh
Joey
December 24th, 2010
7:26 am
“…suspended for the Hall of Fame Bowl in 1985 for breaking curfew in Birmingham, which is tough to do,…”
*****************************************
Great line, Mark.
How can Ohio States not be suspended for the bowl?
Dap01
December 24th, 2010
7:31 am
This is sad because there will be 4 less Techies in LA for this game. Now the grand total is 760 if you add the equipment managers.
bitter christmas carrol
December 24th, 2010
7:37 am
To all my blog buddies, kiss my -fricking as—, hahahahah, really merry christmas and a happy new year yaaaaaw, PS just saying punks, PS2 tech, bulldogs rule!!! allburn su—xs, just saying cheaters
bitter christmas carrol
December 24th, 2010
7:42 am
I love the AJC except for the poor work done by our bill fat as—king and cow chip so called covering collage recruiting yoo, just saying, keep up the good work MARK!!!!
Frankly
December 24th, 2010
7:58 am
I enjoy poking fun at gtu, but this type story really does not need to have the comment section open. Too many hurtful post about this type of story, when this is really a sad time in the lives of the young men and their teammates. I agree with the smack talking with other fans, I just don’t like it at all when it is personal, and believe me, these players take these comments personal. Good luck to each except for the last regular season game each year, and as always THWGT!!!
BoWeevil
December 24th, 2010
8:04 am
4 Georgia tek football players FLUNKED OUT
SuperB
December 24th, 2010
8:09 am
The two GT graduates who are now academially ineligible for the bowl game:
1. What were their degrees in?
2. Pretty much debunks the braggioso that Tech’s degrees are worth more than other schools.
3. Let’s face it, there are 2 standards: one for regular Tech students and one for it’s FB and BB players.
catlady
December 24th, 2010
8:21 am
Please explain why the Ga guy got suspended immediately (after a long time) but the Ohio State players get to play in their (big) bowl game because they “weren’t educated properly). C’mon, now, they didn’t know they couldn’t do that? Horsefeathers! Talk about a double standard!
SuperB
December 24th, 2010
8:23 am
OHIO STATE: When did the players actually sell those items? It is curious we are just finding out about it. Did it just happen? Mark May stated on ESPN that if these had been SEC players instead of Big Ten– all five players would NOT play in the upcoming Sugar Bowl. May called the Big Ten the NCAA’s “sacred cow.” He is 100% correct!
Remember when Maurice Clarett flunked (African-American Studies,) with a zero on the mid-term? Clarett was given a “special” make-up exam at the end of the semester, (the only student in the class who got a do-over,) then played against Miami in the national championship game and helped OSU win.
Suspending these five for Akron, Toledo, and Colorado means nothing– OSU will breeze in those. Only Miami and Michigan State are on the table– IF these guys even bother to return to Columbus next fall. Having the coach and AD make excuses for the five is insulting: had they not heard of A. J. Green and the “Case of the Used Jersey?”
What do you think Mark?
Covers Dixie like the Dew
December 24th, 2010
8:26 am
Merry CHRISTMAS,
Go Jackets.
Dr. J
December 24th, 2010
8:27 am
You can’t sell a Tech jersey.
Talked our way out of it
December 24th, 2010
8:32 am
THE ohio state university must have powerful connections.
GT
December 24th, 2010
8:38 am
Speaking of Dewberry, follow his career after his playing days and compare it to the players getting D.U.I s the last couple of years in Athens. It might explain a little about this academic ineligibility at Tech compared to other schools. The reason so many players like AJ Green think they’re playing for free is they have no appreciation of an education and those notions are certainly not discouraged once they arrive in Athens. I think following these guys careers, if it doesn’t depress you too much, kind of puts the light on what is real here. You do not need the NCAA to tell you garbage in garbage out at far as college students.
Cooper Taylor quit Tech, felt isolated, an odd ball on his own football team. This is a bad sign that Tech may be moving or really has for a while into the same direction of a Georgia. Not too much written about this but the recruiter are using it to their advantage in recruiting against Tech. It is very hard to be an athlete today and be a student. The requirements of an athlete are heavy. Looking at these out of condition Georgia players and lack of skill sets from Tech, I’m not sure I totally buy that but when you are putting functional illiterates into a system and then deciding which one of these are academically eligible, when in truth they probably all are is somewhat humorous.
Choking Hazard
December 24th, 2010
8:39 am
Thanks for the contemporary update todd.
ThugNation
December 24th, 2010
8:39 am
No such thing as academic ineligibility 60 miles east of Tech. I heard about some football players in Fleabagville being brain scanned in a test to see if sustained blows to the helmet caused any problems and there was no measurable brain activity. Seems about right to me!
Milledgeville Dawg
December 24th, 2010
8:40 am
I love it. The entire athletic program is in shambles.
dawgfan
December 24th, 2010
8:40 am
Techies, UGA could have 90 players suspended for the bowl game and it doesn’t make a bit of difference. Like the morons that you are, you are completely missing the point. The point is that you constantly run your fat mouths about how smart your football players are and use this myth as a pathetic crutch when they don’t perform on the football field. Well morons, the facts suggest otherwise.
I would still like one of you brilliant Techies to explain to me how someone can graduate from the vaunted “Institute” and still be academically ineligible by the NCAA. You’re real good at running your mouths so why don’t you take a stab at it? Thanks.
CrackerJacket
December 24th, 2010
8:45 am
Mark Bradley has been awarded the Pukelitzer Prize for this investigative, gut wrenching expose’ that changed the sports world. Way to go Mark! What a loser.
CrackerJacket
December 24th, 2010
8:48 am
The program that is in shambles is that pack of uncoached loser thugs of Richt’s. 13 arrests – leads the nation. AD driving drunk with another women and her panties. REAL CLASS!
GT53
December 24th, 2010
8:48 am
Bradley,
You are getting to be the “new” Terrance Moore, (such an AH). By the way, what college did you flunk out of?
tc
December 24th, 2010
8:48 am
Mark, you seem to have struck a raw nerve here. Thanks!
Katherine
December 24th, 2010
8:50 am
I just can’t believe the OSU players getting to play in their bowl game….its disgusting.
T-Bone
December 24th, 2010
8:53 am
Mark, Please write an article about the (wretched) state of Tech basketball. I mean they lost to Siena, of all teams! We need all the help we can get getting rid of Hewitt. It’s sad; Hewitt’s a nice guy and represents the school well, but he is not producing.
Reality Stinks
December 24th, 2010
8:55 am
Like Ive said so many times before
Tech is a fraud, your going to tell me there is no academic cheating going on there give me a break
poopdawg
December 24th, 2010
9:08 am
Bradley , the only tradition that continues is your crappy writings! Quit stirring the pot.
buzzwax
December 24th, 2010
9:16 am
In less than five minutes from reading this FISH WRAP of an excuse for ‘journalism’, I was able to find out that not only TWO of the players have graduated they simply didn’t have enough hours this semester post graduation to remain eligible. The headline should read GT ACADEMIC ADVISOR IS AN IDIOT. These two gentlemen have graduated from a great school and should be HONORED!! I also found out in less than five minutes the other player missed passing a class by TWO POINTS and WILL GRADUATE next semester. So thats THREE OF THE FOUR who will have graduated from Ga Tech. THAT is WAY MORE THAN ANY FISH WRAP ‘reporter’ can say!!!!!! EVER!!!
Mr. Hill, grow a pair, pull up your socks and show everyone what you can do!!!!
Ted M
December 24th, 2010
9:20 am
A few questions: How can you earn your degree and still be academically ineligible?
That is a good question, how can we get that answered?
When I first read it I thought it must have been a misprint but it looks like its just more evidence of how rotten the NCAA is.
Frontman
December 24th, 2010
9:21 am
Dawgfan,
I’ll speak real slow now so you can understand. Even if you have graduated, you still have to pass a certain number of semester hours to remain eligible for NCAA purposes. They didn’t. Does that make it through your thick skull? Sorry for all the big words, a$$ clown
superDawg
December 24th, 2010
9:34 am
It is damn funny watching nerds scream we are smarter than you,yea your all rhode scholars in your own minds.Now go sweep the floor and get it ready for Santa Claus.
1eyedJack
December 24th, 2010
9:49 am
I will make no inflammatory statements concerning GT football player’s “academic eligibility” until the other shoe drops.
juvenal
December 24th, 2010
9:50 am
rhodes scholarships go to b.a. students-Tech awards only B. of Science degrees….check out “payscale.com”…….real schools should have lots of folks flunk out, social passes for atheletes have benefited this country as much as all the other dumb-masses the gov’t skules have processed……….
Are you kidding
December 24th, 2010
9:54 am
Why not let OSU decide which games they sit out during the rest of their career??? After all they are THE Ohio State University!!! The NCAA is just a huge joke. Their jokeosity is only surpassed by the SEC and all things Slive!!!
Pope UGA XXIII
December 24th, 2010
9:54 am
Pretty accurate & objective assessment of this mess by GT.
Otherwise, all of the usual posts from both sides of the aisle
are pretty damn funny.
>>> yeah, we have some ineligible, but everybody knows that
all UGA players are stupid and criminals
>>> we run this state !! (but not much else at this time)
Can we please get this season over with ?? Thank you !!
PTC DAWG
December 24th, 2010
10:00 am
GT Lies & Cheats…
Merry Christmas…
dawgfan
December 24th, 2010
10:00 am
Frontman, so basically the NCAA requires more coursework than “The Institute?” But how can this be Techie? We have been told that Georgia Tech is at a competitive disadvantage to the “football factories” because of their supposedly stringent academic requirements. They don’t seem so stringent to me if they don’t even meet the NCAA’s bare minimum requirements. Something is just not adding up here Techie. How difficult can academic life be for a Georgia Tech football player if they can get a degree but still not meet NCAA academic requirements?
You’re not going to be able to spin your way out of this one Techies. All your excuses, myths, and lies have been totally EXPOSED. Its certainly not the first time. Back when you had to vacate all those wins from the O’ Leary era because you were playing a bunch of academically ineligible players you still stuck your heads in the sand and pretended like it never happened. Gotta keep the myth alive as long as your getting your arses rocked by Georgia.
PATHETIC.
Reggie Ball
December 24th, 2010
10:09 am
Dawgfan:
Right on, Tech never even taught me how to count to 4! I swear I thought it was 3rd down when I threw the ball away in Athens to lose the game my final year.
Ain't the Big 10
December 24th, 2010
10:13 am
If the players, particularly the ones who have already graduated they would play in the Bowl Game and would be suspended for next season. You have to love the
NCAA. Now if Tech moves to the Big Ten or Pac Ten it won’t have these type of problems.
Merry Christmas!
juvenal
December 24th, 2010
10:19 am
so ncaa”word” now, but not for a.j.?…never talked to my advisor at Tech after the first time…….Merry Christmas to all…….
Pimple popper
December 24th, 2010
10:19 am
Tech haters must feel like Christmas comes early? Another tech bowl loss sure would be sweet !!
Footballrules
December 24th, 2010
10:19 am
PTC DAWG….Jan Kemp….Happy New Year.
dawgfan
December 24th, 2010
10:22 am
Footballrules, how are you keeping that glass house warm during these frigid winter months?
LOL @ Tech fans.
AtlantaNative62
December 24th, 2010
10:37 am
Are you kidding me? How is drudging up three incidences over 25 years a “saga”? This “article” is simply a ridiculous effort to hurt the Jackets here at recruiting time. At least the Institute has the temerity to suspend players rather than trying to justify their actions as “youthful indiscretions”. Mark, I usually respect your writing – even when I disagree with you – but this truly is a pathetic piece of “journalism”. I bet most schools would love to have that kind of record over 25 years.
dawg777
December 24th, 2010
10:38 am
cam newton got alot of money from auburn boosters and the NCAA did nothing.the NCAA is a big joke.
AUBUMS
December 24th, 2010
10:41 am
Enter your comments here
Time
December 24th, 2010
10:42 am
Yep, those criminals at ThuGAtech strike again.
dawgs2004
December 24th, 2010
10:43 am
But I thought all tech players were smart???????? Guess not.
reality
December 24th, 2010
10:43 am
Sh*t happens. Academics are tougher at GT…even for the football players. I’m suprised that this doesn’t happen more often.
AUBUMS
December 24th, 2010
10:43 am
Techies not smart enough to get away with it like the AUBUMS. HAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
SEC
December 24th, 2010
10:47 am
Im sure there will be alot of jabs in this article from dawgs fans. As a dawg fan myself i have much respect for GT and an academic institute and anyone who tries to take that away is an idiot themselves. That being said, it makes it much harder to keep certain talents and stay in the same recruiting pool as every university. Georgia itself is quality academic university but Tech is tech. Congrats to the two gentlemen who graduated and the other two let down their teammates.
producewiz
December 24th, 2010
10:47 am
suspending players from bowl games hurts the sponsor and the bowls.Unless violence or a felony,these bowls pay too much money for these teams to leave stars at home.And if I could,I’d advise those Ohio State players to get a lawyer.Since when does any body have the right to give you something, then tell you what you can do with them.NCAA has never won a lawsuit yet.Remember graduated assistant limit on their salaries.Sued the NCAA and won going away.NCAA has to charge member institutions to pay the loss.
a
42-34 Dawgs STILL Run This State
December 24th, 2010
10:48 am
LMAO at the failing techies.
Doesn’t surprise me in the least.
Billyboy
December 24th, 2010
10:49 am
Another lame article by mark b. Please try to do a little research and give all the information. Here’s a better idea. The AJC could suspend Mark B from writing any articles for 5 months. I might even renew my subscription. Go AJC
bb
December 24th, 2010
10:50 am
I fail to see how having academic standards and following them (regardless of the cost) is an embarrassment for GT.
Sports Review
December 24th, 2010
10:55 am
[...] quarterback Joshua Nesbitt will not play in Monday's AdvoCare V100 Independence Bowl …A tradition continues: Four players suspended for Tech's bowlAtlanta Journal Constitution [...]
1eyedJack
December 24th, 2010
10:57 am
If you didn’t place yourselves on an academic pedastal we wouldn’t find pleasure in knocking you off of it.
juvenal
December 24th, 2010
11:09 am
% of special admits all one needs to know….now, how many of y’all actually going to shreveport? memphis?
Mike
December 24th, 2010
11:12 am
Bradley, Once again you look for something to write about in order to cut down our local teams. You never get it, do you? I can’t tell you how many people I have talked to that are sick of your articles. And once again, you are awarded our Pun-dick of the Week Award. Merry Christmas.
dawgfan
December 24th, 2010
11:13 am
Oh, and one more thing. LOL @ the timing of this announcment. Do you think its any coincidence that the Techie propaganda machine releases this on CHRISTMAS EVE when no one except sicko’s like me are paying any attention?
Swoosh. Swoosh. Swoosh. That’s the sound of the Techie propaganda machine sweeping this under the rug.
Reality
December 24th, 2010
11:13 am
Ditto bb…UGA fans are so ignorant.
Mark holier than thou Bradley
December 24th, 2010
11:20 am
WOW an article this morning by Dough Roberson not out to accuse, point the finger, mock or laugh at GT or its players….something you will never see written by Mark Bradley..or Heather D at espn, the other spoiled brat out to mock, laugh and accuse someone at Ga Tech..
Great article about Michael Peterson
5150 P.O.A.D.
December 24th, 2010
11:21 am
Super B
Answer #1. Hall graduated with a Civil Engineering Degree.
Barnes graudated with a Management Degree.
Neither have been accepted into the graduate program as of yet.
Answer #2. Are you really that stupid? Look how TECH ranks in any publication.
Answer #3. Yes, the FB and BB players take easier Civil Engineering classes. Like UGA is now offering engineering. HAHAH UGA students said they want to be engineers, but they want to have a college life too. UGA would be easier and I would not have to live in the labs. Man I can’t wait to have a Drunk UGA engineer build my home.
Hill and Edwards didn’t pass TECH’s standards to play. If they were at UGA these 2 players would be on the UGA football all academic team.
hmmmmmm......
December 24th, 2010
11:23 am
So Robert Hall can beat his girlfriend half to death, and thats cool with the nerds, but suspend him for a bowl game and now theres a problem. He shouldn’t have been on the team anyway. What a disgrace.
Footballrules
December 24th, 2010
11:35 am
dawgfan…the series stood 36-31-5 in favor of UGA as of 1977, and PTC wants us to believe that Tech ies and cheats???? Sorry, the team that suddenly takes a commanding lead is usually the one that cuts corners. Happy Hannukah.
GTechsta
December 24th, 2010
11:38 am
You choose to bash players that have already graduated from college and the fact that Tech holds it’s student athletes to higher standards than the average NCAA program. You sir, are pathetic.
Fan of the Game
December 24th, 2010
11:39 am
By the example set with Ohio St. by the NCAA all players should be elligible for all bowl games. No one inelligible until next year. If Ohio St. had any class they themselves would declare the players inelligible.
Dumbest post on the thread is from..
December 24th, 2010
11:41 am
dawgfan December 24th, 2010 11:13 am
“timing of the announcement…”
1) The news was released yesterday – not Christmas Eve
2) The academic ineligibility is based on the grades from the Fall semester – finals week ended on 12/17 – grades would only have made it to the AA on Monday at the earliest and it takes a little while to review whether everyone is eligible. UGA still hasn’t announced if there are any eligibility issues with their players.
Fan of the Game
December 24th, 2010
11:43 am
Oh that is the way you spell eligible. My fault.
Matt Winkeljohn
December 24th, 2010
11:51 am
It’s all about the tattoo; tattoo U.
Paul in RDU
December 24th, 2010
11:56 am
One of the several excuses for the OSU players is that their families needed the money. Since the NCAA has established that what your family does has no effect on your eligibility, provided you know nothing about it, and you are only breaking the rules if you profit from selling your jersey / ring / etc. there is a simple solution.
Just give your stuff to you parents (preferably autographed) and let them see what they can sell it for – without your knowledge of course.
rumor has it that the 4 robbers who robbed a
December 24th, 2010
12:03 pm
gt student in his dorm room were uga players.
that is so sad.
Duckafawg
December 24th, 2010
12:13 pm
The joke by coke? tell me….how are those ticket sales going for that entralling Liberty Bowl matchup with UCF?????….hmmmm..dead quiet….as usual…..4700 of 10K…yeah you UGags travl soooooooo well….what a myth…dont even out yourself in the same class with SC, TN, AUB, AL, LSU….need i go on? Good job – The Bumpkin on Lumpkin
BoWeevil
December 24th, 2010
12:17 pm
AJ-C,
Nice move trying to add in something OFF-TOPIC about the Ohio State University
on the very day
4 Georgia tek FOOTBALL PLAYERS
FLUNK
OFF
the
FOOTBALL
TEAM
GTECG
December 24th, 2010
12:23 pm
Bradley, today’s is an unprofessional, cheap-shot article. I realize yours is a blog or commentary, not reporting, but c’mon, is this the best you can do?
mark you could have at least clarified
December 24th, 2010
12:25 pm
the issue wrt the two players who already graduated.
they were ineligible because they had not taken the required no of courses to be considered full time students hence they were ineligble.
they were in good standing and had already graduated.
so there were only 2 players who had grade issues.
so yes mark you jumped the gun a bit dontcha think?
getting back to the dawg comments. re how smart the players are between the two schools…
there is a whole lotta differecne between failing calculus or physics than failing jim harricks basketball final. dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
but a dawg wouldnt know that.
Jesse Stone
December 24th, 2010
12:32 pm
bb
December 24th, 2010
10:50 am
I fail to see how having academic standards and following them (regardless of the cost) is an embarrassment for GT
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I wholeheartedly agree. An embarrassment would involve a cover-up or wrongdoing. These players did not take the minimum number of classes AFTER graduating, and the other two slacked off on their studies. I don’t see the embarrassment to GT, but maybe to a few of the players.
TechRon
December 24th, 2010
12:32 pm
Which is worse, our football team or our basketball team? Both stink. When does baseball start? Can we get ourselves a new AD, please?
Jesse Stone
December 24th, 2010
12:36 pm
D A Double U G
December 23rd, 2010
10:57 pm
Those Techies trying to justify their IDIOT players with the liklihood that Caleb King is also ineligible,……
UGA fans admit he is an idiot. We are not in denial like you Nerds. We do not claim our NFL minor league football players to be Aerospace Engineers.
________________________________________________________________________-
…and here it is. I wonder if players that UGA is recruiting are seeing this from some of their “fans”.
Headley Lamar
December 24th, 2010
12:39 pm
Ahh the Techies.
They are one of the dirtiest programs in the country yet they spout off about UGA all the time.
Didn’t you guys just get off your last probation?
Oh the Hypocrisy
Headley Lamar
December 24th, 2010
12:41 pm
ATLANTA — The NCAA placed Georgia Tech on two years of probation Thursday for using 17 academically ineligible athletes in four sports, including 11 in football.
They should have just let them play. Using ineligible players is kind of a Tech tradition isnt it?
wreckedwreck
December 24th, 2010
12:45 pm
Things haven’t been the same on the flats since Morris Brown lost its accreditation.
Yellow Britches
December 24th, 2010
12:49 pm
The suspensions of defensive players won’t matter a twit. Orange cones placed randomly on the field would be as effective.
Alabama Jack
December 24th, 2010
1:06 pm
Dear Santa
All I want for Christmas is a ban on dumb delusional irrelevant dawg fans having access to any computer or other crap transmitting device for the upcoming year.
Thank you very mch.
ManUp...
December 24th, 2010
1:15 pm
Can’t we at least wait until kickoff to begin the self-destruction. And I was sure this year we would at least keep the off-the-field issues down enough to keep the fingers pointed at the players in Athens and everywhere else. Now we got kids that didn’t pass enough hours. Ah well, maybe this can be a trend – like, hey, football teams from Alabama play for champiosnhips then go on probation while the ones from Georgia just mix in a little bit of winning and losing with questionable activities. Or ya know…whatever it is that this all means.
Well regardless the “weather” Go Jackets!
JoeFan
December 24th, 2010
1:18 pm
Does it make any sense for Ohio State to claim the players haven’t been educated regarding NCAA Regs. when they have a manadatory compliance meeting each year and most of these players have been there 3 seasons? Looks like the rug is getting bumpy with everything being swept under it.
Da Boze
December 24th, 2010
1:23 pm
At least these are not criminal offenses like some schools we know.
JoeFan
December 24th, 2010
1:27 pm
Why was it not mentioned that 2 of the Tech players have graduated and simply didn’t have enough hours this semester post graduation to remain eligible? Also the other player is set to graduate next semester. This is a prime example of not reporting the complete story and instead focusing on the negative. Do the research next time.
D A Double U G
December 24th, 2010
1:42 pm
Can you imagine the outrage that will ensue if these Ohio State players get their sentence reduced.
I heard the Ohio State AD yesterday say in his Presser “These kids were selling their property in order to help their families”….. YEAH RIGHT!!!!
The money these kids made were immediately spent on rap albums and shiney, gaudy necklaces.
If I recall, UGA appealed AJ’s sentence, to no avail. I hate to take the “eye for an eye” approach, but I would for one be VERY upset if the sentence is reduced to ANYTHING less than 4 games.
GO DAWGS.
College fan
December 24th, 2010
1:48 pm
A Tech Tradition? Really? Who is printing this crap. Must be the Athens Journal Constitution. Reminds me why I cancelled my subscription.
Myers
December 24th, 2010
1:55 pm
The TRUE Tech tradition is being beaten by UGA most Thanksgivings.
5150 P.O.A.D.
December 24th, 2010
2:01 pm
DA double UG
4 of the OSU player will go pro and this will not affect the Buckeyes one bit. You really need to chill. You were all worked up all day & night. don’t you have other things to do with Christmas just a day away?
GT Fan...
December 24th, 2010
2:05 pm
Don’t forget about the NINE players suspended for the 1st Bowl Game vs. Fresno State (30 – 23 loss) back in 200?, Under Gailey’s watch.
The Ole Ball Coach
December 24th, 2010
2:24 pm
http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/recruiting-numbers/
write something about the team that oversign recruits and then kicks off the low performers
is this not like the pros? NCAA Is this not an advantage ?
PapaDawg
December 24th, 2010
2:26 pm
WHAT, all rightious GT with acadimic problems. HMMMM
dawgfan
December 24th, 2010
2:26 pm
Okay, the timing argument was a little off. Sue me. Nevertheless, I’ve noticed a lot of talk out of the Techies about Ohio State and of course their big brother to the east, UGA. Sweep sweep lying Techies. Its obvious that you’re own joke of a half azz football program doesn’t have its own affairs in order. Yet, here you are popping off at your fat mouths about others. If you weren’t such sanctimonious holier than thou D-bags Bradley probably wouldn’t have written this column in the first place. You bring this on yourselves.
Just keeping it real. Dont’ get mad.
5150 P.O.A.D.
December 24th, 2010
2:44 pm
It can’t be explained to the UGA fans on here. 2 of the players didn’t FAIL out. They alreay GRADUATED. You dawgs do understand GRADUATING from college don’t you? I mean all you dawgs went to UGA and attend classes right. A 3rd player will graduate in a few months. I know it is hard to believe football players actually graduating but at TECH it does happen quite often. I hate that graduating may hurt the TEAM in the bowl game, but it beats being all out for yourself and hurting the team on purpose ie AJ Green, Zack Mettenburger, King, and Ealey.
LAST
December 24th, 2010
2:49 pm
So much for the Institute of Higher Learning!!!!
NoLion
December 24th, 2010
2:50 pm
For the record, Everyone has pulled a DUI in Athens, that’s how they get their revenue…
UGA89
December 24th, 2010
2:53 pm
GT 35
UGA 18
…remember it well, best day of my life between the hedges.
UGA finished 6-6 this season …heh heh heh
Tech has played in two conference championships, won one conference championship, played in a BCS bowl and racked up a gazillion rushing yards on the 4-star athletes down the road in Athens, in the last four years. What the heck has UGA done during that time?
..chirp, chirp, chirp
That’s what I thought …THWG
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
3:08 pm
A UGA football player just read the December Cosmopolitan cover to cover. He is now a graduate of Consumer Fashion Magazine degree at UGA It is a BA. Damon Evans was trying to get a Masters Degree in the same field when he was arrested.
gt4ever
December 24th, 2010
3:17 pm
This is a good time for CPJ to hire Ralph Freidgen and discontinue this ABSURD offense…….. CPJ can hire a good recruiter and start recruiting real football players so we can be competitive one day…I can dream…..
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
3:28 pm
gt4ever give it up. Did you see Navy and it’s passing game? TECH will pass and can do it well. The Offense is fine. The Defence is where TECH needs more and Bigger players.
Myers
December 24th, 2010
3:38 pm
And Navy put up a WHOPPING 14 points last night to SD State with that steller passing game……
just saying…..
Myers
December 24th, 2010
3:39 pm
Navy lost.
gt4ever
December 24th, 2010
3:40 pm
Still@the bar,
Have one for me….. Navy is a fine institute…. Not one I would like to be comparing football programs, unless of course we have given up on competing in big time football…. I was hoping for a team that competes on a national level, maybe I’m dreaming… Those days of the 50’s were a long time ago… The offense is NOT fine, we have NO blue chip players that want any part of this offense. Good grief, just chart the progress in recruiting from when CPJ started until present… It’s NOT hard to figure out that the trend is DOWN! I mean, somebody prove otherwise… It’s not going to be pretty in a couple of years…
From Where I Sit
December 24th, 2010
3:42 pm
I like it how you deleted my comments, MORON!
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
3:46 pm
gt4ever I used Navy because that is paul’s last job. Nebraska still runs the option a lot and they play big boy football.
dawgfan
December 24th, 2010
3:49 pm
Maybe on the scoreboard Myers, but since when has the scoreboard ever mattered to a Tech fan? I’m sure Navy put up some impressive stats and played valiantly in their big Moral Victory.
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
4:00 pm
dawgfan the Football Scoreboard is all that matters to a DawgFan. NAVY has men of integrity and character playing a game for the love of the game. Unlike dawg players playing for a chance to get out of the ghetto and what they can get for themselves. You know like AJ GREEN. He needed $1000 so he slod his jersey instead of the ICE he wears in his ear.
BuzztheKiller
December 24th, 2010
4:05 pm
Only thing this demonstrates is that Tech actually holds it players to the rules and doesn’t try to get around the standards. Somehow this is being projected as a negative. Not much of a lose, at least we are not being subjected to watching Hill drop more passes.
JD
December 24th, 2010
4:24 pm
So over the past 14 straight bowl games you have Reggie Ball and the ones this year. Is that considered a “time honored tradition”? I guess using the UGA logic it is. Get real Bradley!
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
4:32 pm
why did that post get eaten?
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
4:34 pm
great 300 high school and middle school students engage in a drunk’n brawl in Athens. Glad to see the next generation of UGA students are getting an early start on being drunk and stupid.
dd
December 24th, 2010
4:39 pm
How would you like to have to walk around the g/t campus dodging thugs and looking at their women?
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
4:45 pm
dd
What is the difference in Athens? Walking around campus dodging student/Athletes Thugs and looking at their lil tramp women?
Mark Bradley`s Booster
December 24th, 2010
5:09 pm
Mark: Why do you allow so many responses that have nothing at all with your story to be posted. Do have a problem with this or is it o.k. with you. I did not count the number of irrevalant post but I conservately guess that close to 50% are in this class.
Sic' 'em
December 24th, 2010
5:13 pm
This all happened because Georgia Tech fricking S U C K S!!!!!!!
Blah ha ha ha blah ha ha ha L O S E R S !!!!!!!
82Dawg
December 24th, 2010
5:33 pm
@still@the bar ..in Athens you have High School kids fighting each other, at Ga Tech you have students worried if they go outside at night they could get killed. I think I would take the teenagers.
the answer
December 24th, 2010
5:40 pm
Regarding the two who graduated; once the s/a graduates with remaining eligibility, they must either be enrolled in a graduate program or in a pursuing a second undergrad degree. So these two, since not in grad school, would have been enrolled in a second undergrad program and would have to be full-time with a minimum of 12 hours. In order to stay eligible, they would have had to pass a minimum of 6 hours, which they obviously didn’t.
Not sure what the issues with the other two s/a’s were. Most likely they were already on ‘warning’ for their academic standing and did not perform better this fall semester, with moved them to probation. But it is a mistake to believe that GT requirements are above and beyond NCAA requirements. That simply is not true.
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
5:51 pm
Apple pie just out of the oven. Sweet Potato Suflas is half cooked. Add the Carmalized Pecans and Corn Flakes tomorrow and finish cooking. Dressing is ready to bake. Crown Roast is pre prepared. Sis is making the Bread, Green Bean Cassrole, and Pecan Pie. Don’t know what the other sis in making.
82Dawg
December 24th, 2010
5:53 pm
@still@the bar …drunk fighting teenagers in Athens vs Muggers and Killers around the Tech campus…hmmm I will take the teenagers anyday. Merry Christmas
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
6:02 pm
82dawg if students at Tech would pay better attention the muggers can be avoided. The Drunk kids driving in Athens you find after they hit somebody. Both are very dangerous.
BoWeevil
December 24th, 2010
6:42 pm
QUIT with all your excuses
Georgia tek has FOUR (4) Football Players who FLUNKED their way out
Paul in RDU
December 24th, 2010
6:53 pm
BoWeevil – What is your definition of “flunking out”?
BoWeevil
December 24th, 2010
7:20 pm
2 declared kicked-off the team by the NCAA
2 declared kicked-off the team by Georgia tek
BoWeevil
December 24th, 2010
7:20 pm
Any more stupid questions, Paul ?
techfans get a clue
December 24th, 2010
7:21 pm
Tech fans stop the excuses anybody who has played college sports knows that you must take the min amount of classes or credit hrs to remain eligible so whether those two seniors failed their classes or not they didnt take care of their business so point the finger at the players or the athletic dept but either way it goes somebody dropped the ball! So tech fans face the facts your program isnt as perfect as you make it out to be!
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
7:23 pm
BoWeevil
You are STUPID. Hall and Barnes garduated with a Civil Engineering Degree and a Management Degree. How is that Flunking Out? Damn you are freaking too DUMB to even read and understand a simply written story. Edwards may wish to retake a class but he will graduate in a few months.
Paul in RDU
December 24th, 2010
7:23 pm
BoWeevil – Any more stupid answers?
What is your definition of “flunking out”?
Paul in RDU
December 24th, 2010
7:37 pm
techfans get a clue @7:21
You are correct – the 4 players did not do what was necessary to maintain eligibility and have paid the price. The 2 graduates in particular should have known better – heck Matt Leinart took one class in his final year (he was a 5th year SR) to maintain his eligibility. The GT program isn’t perfect, but then again no CFB program is perfect.
Covers Dixie like the Dew
December 24th, 2010
7:44 pm
1984 was a very good year, no cellphones, no internet, no stress.
BoWeevil
December 24th, 2010
8:16 pm
Pefect ?
Paul Johnson cannot recruit at all
He never has been able to
Your players are QUITTING the team, dropping like gnats
flies
left and right
And, for the # 36 National University – you had four (4) players who signed up for enough classes to play in a bowl game
But all 4 did FLUNKED OFF THE TEAM
Did I mention Georgia tek is 6-6 and will LOSE to be 6-7
Or, that you have LOST every game of the Mark Richt Era 10-Years except 1 game long ago
Or, that you have not won a Major Bowl Game since 1955
# 35 in 1-A wins since 1959
Your program is in shambles and your men’s basketball program, even more so
Navigator
December 24th, 2010
8:57 pm
Guys like you BoWeevilbrain, who chastise Tech when your pathetic team had to beat Tech just to get into a bowl. Either you’re drunk now or you should be.
still@the bar
December 24th, 2010
9:11 pm
Boweevil
Are you wrapping your PBR for Christmas? I bet t is a 10 pack too.
big daddy bee
December 24th, 2010
10:30 pm
Bradley you are a disgrace to journalism. You are hired to report facts, not biases. I remember another so called journalist named by a first name of Terrence, who was a racist who always drew the black card. Mark you need to report non biased opinions. You do have talent but unfortunately you throw it all away in your reporting. I come from the old school, Furman Bisher, Jim Mintor and the staff that wrote articles from the old journal and constitution, that meant something based on facts. Your reporting skills are skillful, but sorry to say are very biased. I go back to Bobby Dodd, and Wally Butts. I doubt that you have ever heard or appreciate the contributions these guys made to these great schools in Georgia.
Fact is, you just cannot get rid of your love for UGA and it is really sad, for so called professional to exhibit so much hate for a school that you really don’t know anything about.
Fan of the Game
December 24th, 2010
10:54 pm
Ohio State has won a NC with one of the most corrupt players in the history of college football. Clarrett was an embarrassment!
AFDawg
December 24th, 2010
10:56 pm
Bruce Mac, UGA beat Mercer for the 15th straight time. Mercer hasn’t beaten UGA in over 50 years. How is this comparable to Tech losing to KSU?
big daddy bee
December 24th, 2010
11:02 pm
Even though you are a hack and a limited time reporter for the AJC. Merry Christmas. Heard it from me first!! No one wants to hear slanted and hateful stuff that you spew.
The most moronic post of the day goes to..
December 24th, 2010
11:53 pm
BoWeevil @8:16PM
—Or, that you have LOST every game of the Mark Richt Era 10-Years except 1 game long ago—
So according to BoWeevil long ago = December 2008, but the 7 years before that is part of the current era
BoWeevil
December 25th, 2010
12:18 am
Georgia tek played the # 99 Official NCAA Strength of Schedule this season.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2010/Internet/toughest%20schedule/fbs_9games_past.pdf
You won 6 games and lost 6 games
We beat you
And, yes, you have won 1 game of the 10 in the Mark Richt 10-Year Era. Your win was not this season, nor was it last season.
Georgia tek has not won a Major Bowl Game since 1955.
Georgia tek is # 35 in 1-A wins since 1959.
Paul Johnson cannot recruit his way out of a wet paper bag
4 of your players FLUNKED OFF THE TEAM
They all 4 took enough classes to play
Only they FLUNKED THEM
macrotech
December 25th, 2010
2:16 am
Yeah, BoWeevil, perhaps we should create classes with tough questions like, “How many points do you get for making a 3 point shot?”. We’re in shambles?! How is it that the great uga ONLY has half the national championships as our little wannabees? Since CPJ, we’ve had one average season of 6-6…uga just finished their second bad season in a row…and WE’RE in shambles?
BoWeevil
December 25th, 2010
6:33 am
Georgia tek has won 1 final AP Poll national championship in girls’ tennis
Georgia tek has 6 national championships by the SAME POLLS who have Georgia national champions 6 times, too – only Georgia has an AP Poll National Championship in football.
Georgia tek has NEVER won a national championship in the Final AP Poll, NEVER.
Georgia has.
And, we have 6 national championships in football in the SAME DAMN POLLS who have Georgia tek ranked with 6 national championships in football.
Georgia tek has NOT won a Major Bowl Game since 1955.
Topp Dogg
December 25th, 2010
9:01 am
Just another Bowl breakdown in a long string of losses for CPJ and his Nerds.
superDawg
December 25th, 2010
9:03 am
tek ain’t s–t never has been!
jim 70
December 25th, 2010
9:15 am
santa did not bring me my xmas wish – GT firing Drad or Drad firing PH. Would not have been nice for either of them, but a very merry present for lots of GT fans.
Pago Pago Dawg
December 25th, 2010
9:26 am
It does seem that every play, penalty flag, time out, score etc., now has a $ponsor….
Logan Booker
December 25th, 2010
9:30 am
JB, the word on the street is that Caleb is ineligible for your Dawgs and there are possibly others so just remember that when the story break.
Barnes and Hall have used up their eligibility and have already graduated, so they are academically ineligible as a result. You said you can’t wait to see how it is “spun” but those are facts. Obviously they were in academic good standing to receive their degrees so it’s not what you and Mark Bradley are trying to spin. Mark, it appears that you’re behind your hit quota due to your absence and this is your desperate attempt to catch up. Just sayin’.
dawgfan
December 25th, 2010
9:30 am
Wawawawawawawa…..cry Techies cry. Bradley is being a big fat meanie and said something we don’t like. Where’s my mommy?
Techies have no problem throwing around the “thug” label for UGA football players. They have no problem making up a bunch of lies about how they are all illiterate and can’t do anything but play football. They have no problem calling us all rednecks and thumbing their snotty noses at anyone who doesn’t cheer for their piece of crap football program. But say one thing negative about their precious Yellow Jackets and they cry like girls and run straight to mommy. LMAO @ these hypocritical clowns.
Merry Christmas Techies. My gift to you is your 6th straight bowl loss and a 6-7 losing season. Paul Johnson is a genius!!!!
LMAO.
dominobeer
December 25th, 2010
9:35 am
Do three cited instances over a 25-year stretch really qualify as a “tradition”?
LGBee
December 25th, 2010
10:21 am
Bradley you are a biased idiot. How can you call 3 or 4 occurences in 30 years tradition. The tradition might be the annual parade of UGA players through the Clarke County court system. Now that is something you can count on every year.
Dumbo
December 25th, 2010
11:42 am
UGH…..I was under the impression that all Techies were supposed to be Academic All Americans and are you sure Hall wasn’t banging his girlfriends head again. Go have fun in Shreveport Techies, maybe some of you will actually show up, what with tickets selling for $14.00 (bet Tech AD department loses it’s butt, having to supplement the cost a ticket and what RAD is selling ‘em for). Is the Heisman Joke gonna play or is his best days behind him!
STING'EM!
December 25th, 2010
12:06 pm
F**k You Mark!!!!!
The most moronic post of the day goes to..
December 25th, 2010
12:23 pm
BoWeevil @6:33AM
—Georgia tek has won 1 final AP Poll national championship in girls’ tennis—
There is no such thing as a “final AP Poll championship in girls’ tennis”. As in every other sport apart from Div 1 CFB, there is an NCAA championship in women’s tennis and it was indeed won by GT.
GT-Armchair-QB
December 25th, 2010
1:37 pm
IT’S CRAP LIKE THIS THAT MAKES QUALITY COACHES LIKE PAUL JOHNSON JUMP SHIP, FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE EASIER TO WIN AT.
Racer X
December 25th, 2010
2:01 pm
Whining Tech maggots can’t handle the truth so they have to bring up something about UGA. Your UGA obssession is showing, losers!
Rock The Casbah
December 25th, 2010
2:38 pm
I am stunned! I thought all GT football players graduated and went on to become captains of industry!
After all, they attend the best academic institution in the country. Just ask any Techie and they’ll tell you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
superDawg
December 25th, 2010
2:56 pm
Merry Christmas macriod.
superDawg
December 25th, 2010
2:58 pm
Merry Christmas MB.
ww
December 25th, 2010
3:06 pm
If you only need two classes to graduate, but need more than that to be considered a full-time student, then you might only take the two classes. After all, graduating from The Georgia Institute of Technology is much more important than playing in a bowl game.
Cardinal Sin
December 25th, 2010
4:56 pm
“A Tradition Continues” Seriously Mark???
You had to go back 5 years – Reggie Ball
And you had to go waaay back 25 years – John Dewberry
Quite a stretch Mark, “ongoing Tech saga” – if there was any merit to this story, one could dismiss your hatred for all things Georgia Tech.
Now if you want to talk tradition. why not write a column on Kentucky’s basketball history of scandals and how John Calipari is adding to that saga.
And if we really want to stretch the saga let’s talk about Adolph Rupp’s 1952-1953 basketball season???? That would be the great innovator “Baron of the Blue Grass”, “Man in the Brown Suit” introducing college sports to something new “The Death Penalty”. That would be tradition.
So a couple of guys didn’t pull grades and a couple graduated – to try to put this in the same light as true infractions by the Ohio State players is deceptive, dishonest and unprofessional and seems to reveal an underlying agenda on your part – it is not an infraction to fail to make grades (unfortunate, but not a breach of NCAA rules) – why not try being a journalist.
Fan of the Game
December 25th, 2010
5:38 pm
Some of you Tech people blasting Bradley are the same ones that praise him when he writes about negative articles about Coach Richt and UGA.
vamosjackets
December 25th, 2010
5:54 pm
It happens every year at Tech. We always have football and basketball players who end up on academic probation. But, it’s not just them, it happens to plenty of regular students also. Tech is a hard school. That’s the thing – there are no cake majors for athletes. They have to put in the academic work like anybody else, and if they do, they get a real (and valuable) degree. 2 of the players had actually already graduated and just didn’t take enough credit hours in the fall to qualify. They were moving on after this semester anyway, so that’s not news. The other two didn’t meet TECH’s standards, not the general NCAA’s. Tech has more stringent requirements for its own athletes than the general ones. The fact that we do have athletes and regular students to NOT make it through Tech academically makes me respect the institution and the ones that do make it even more. It says “You have to earn this; it’s not just given to you. And if you do persevere and earn this degree, you will be better for it.” This country should be more like Tech.
When was the last time a Uga athlete was held out due to an “academic” issue??? Not just Uga, but any of the other football factories?
bob
December 25th, 2010
6:04 pm
The NCAA yarn is slowly unweaving. The world is not flat, and these kids are not amateur athletes. You selfish schools just want slave labor. period. They keep hauling these kids off with broken necks, concussions and knees that will not work right every again. The schools profit millions and the kids get ridicule for selling an autograph for a free tattoo.
Dumbo
December 25th, 2010
6:06 pm
Rather insecure aren’t we Techies!!!!!!!! Get off your high horse, Techies. Unless your education taught you a new way to crap and a new way to put on pants…then you education isn’t any more holier than mine.
General Studiies Dawg
December 25th, 2010
6:46 pm
The reason that Tech players seem to flunk out more than other teams like UGA is – it is hard for a UGA Dawg player to become “academically ineligible” when they take such Dumb-a** majors such as General Studies, PE, Housing (and NO, not construction – but Public Housing, which includes a third of the UGA football team), African-American Studies,Social Studies, Pre-School Majors, Insurance, Recreation Majors, etc. It’s hard to flunk when the vast majority Dawg players take these majors. No such majors at Tech. I know – I am one of those former Dawg athletes who graduated from one of those useless majors where I can’t find a descent job.
Poopdawg
December 25th, 2010
7:39 pm
Gsd, Your just a goober posing as a dawg. Merry christmas you slime ball!
Fan of the Game
December 25th, 2010
7:41 pm
General Studies Dawg – There is more that you are not telling us if you can’t get a descent job. Why didn’t you change your major? If you are capable of a descent job then you should have been able to pick and handle a major you felt would benefit you. You kind of sound like the athlete that uses the system and then comes back and squeals because somebody pissed you off. Kind of like a freeloader.
still@the bar
December 25th, 2010
8:05 pm
Man no Love or Joy in a Dawgs heart on Christmas. I guess a 6-6 season makes a Dawg even more bitter than just running out of PRB on Christmas Saturday Night.
BoWeevil
December 25th, 2010
8:11 pm
What the hell do you think Georgia tek football players take as their Major ?
It sure as hell is NOT engineering
NONE of them
Basetball players either at Georgia tek
Such B.S.
BoWeevil
December 25th, 2010
8:15 pm
Your men’s basketball players
ALL
FLUNK OUT
after
1 year
NONE of them are engineering Major either
BoWeevil
December 25th, 2010
8:18 pm
Georgia tek
football players
TOOK
enough credit hours to Qualify
They FLUNKED too many courses
You D.A.
BoWeevil
December 25th, 2010
8:29 pm
Tell AJ-C then
because the AJ-C posted the Final AP Poll in girl’s Tennis back when
Georgia tek won it
It is the ONLY AP Poll National Championship Georgia tek has
in
ANY DAMN SPORT
Dumbo
December 25th, 2010
8:39 pm
General Studiies Dawg…if you went to UGA, I’ll kiss Buzz’s ass on North Ave at high noon….try passing the Insurance course for Actuary….Techies on average only have 1 course in Statistics, check out 3 in this field…yellow turd
no thugs at tech!
December 25th, 2010
9:10 pm
O wait yes i guess there is. What is tech better at anyway? Sure is not football and it’s sure not basketball.
no thugs at tech!
December 25th, 2010
9:13 pm
It must really suck to be a tech fan.
big daddy bee
December 25th, 2010
10:23 pm
BoWevel, you need to check facts before you post idiot responses. You say GT has not played for a meaningful bowl since the 50’s check it out they won the national championship in 1990. That’s ten years after the over rated tu## sniffers won one. Hey pal we are both 6 and 6. How in the world can you guys claim a superior spot in college football this year. Guess what, it’s a good chance you may end up as 6 and 7 this year. That’s a lot to boast about. Big George has your number. I am amazed at the UGA fans that are on this blog spouting, I am better than you. If you went to school at UGA I would be hiding at the ineptitude of this so called highly rated team. Hey guys, drink and party hardy. That’s the problem, no discipline.
Bradley, hope you found someone to celebrate Christmas with. If you did I doubt they never read one of YOUR dumb a?? partisan articles..
Hope all had a very Merry Christmas.
big daddy bee
December 25th, 2010
10:43 pm
Hey no thugs at tech, I remember a score last year in Tech’s favor of a record score of about 42 runs scored against your mighty baseball team. Don’t post if you don’t know what you are talking about. It makes you look stupid.
Short Order
December 25th, 2010
10:50 pm
cam and cecil took $200,000 but he gets to play—the ncaa can’t afford to lose that ratings cash!!!!
Silver Britches
December 25th, 2010
11:41 pm
Happy Holidays Mark Bradley.
BoWeevil
December 26th, 2010
12:33 am
big daddy bee,
No, I did not say Georgia tek has not played for a meaningful bowl since 1955
I said Georgia tek has NOT won a Major Bowl since 1955
BoWeevil
December 26th, 2010
1:04 am
How can UGA claim to be Superior to Georgia tek in football this season with both at 6-6 ?
Georgia tek played Strength of Schedule # 97 in the nation and UGA the # 45 Strength of Schedule, and we beat your sorry butts – thus, Georgia tek plays its bowl game tomorrow at 5 pm no less in
SHREVEPORT.
All of the other bowl games have been and will continue to be on ESPN, except for lowly Georgia tek who plays your bowl game in SHREVEPORT on ESPN 2.
195-148-2
195 games Georgia has beat Georgia tek in BASEBALL and you come running in here to talk about Baseball with your only 148 wins against Georgia in baseball.
If George O’Leary has our number, why does he have a LOSING RECORD to UGA ?
Yellow Fuzz
December 26th, 2010
8:04 am
Merry Christmas to every AH dog fan out there!
NoFKNdog
December 26th, 2010
8:15 am
Remember all of you so called dog fans, you can win everything every year until the world ends. But you all know that even with that and know matter what you say or feel about Georgia Tech or any other team, you will always SUCK!! You cannot escape it. There you go.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
Sports Review
December 26th, 2010
9:05 am
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dawgfan
December 26th, 2010
9:15 am
Techies are such freaking morons that they didn’t even read the article. They immediately start in on their holy roller BS about how hard Tech is and that’s the reason their players are ineligible. Earth to moron Techies: Two of your players are ineligible because they didn’t meet NCAA requirments, not Tech requirements. You come on here popping off at the mouth about how brilliant and wonderful you are but can’t even read an AJC sports blog. Your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance. Simply unbelievable.
GTechsta
December 26th, 2010
9:29 am
dogfan, you are the idiot. 2 had graduated and the other 2 are ncaa eligible but not tech eligible.
Tech IS smarter
December 26th, 2010
9:31 am
dawgfan:
I know you are just finished reading the new version of Glory Year you just got for Christmas. But think before you add more eggnog to that Koolaid dude. Try looking a little closer at that “dream team recruiting class” you are putting together. For once, do a little more than just trust Rivals, Dawgvent or Bill King Knows Best to tell you where your future lies. That way you won’t be caught off guard 2-3 years from now AGAIN. Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Nick Marshall (4 stars)-legit)
Christian LeMay (4 stars)-legit
Amarlo Herrera (4 stars)-legit, but not recruited by Alabama)
Sterling Bailey (4 stars)-legit but not recruited by Alabama)
Zach DeBell (4 stars)-Not recruited by Alabama and not offered by Auburn or Miami
Corey Moore (4 stars)- Not recruited by Alabama or Florida. Was recruited by Oregon but not offered.
Justin Scott-Wesley (4 stars)-Not recruited by Florida or Auburn and not offered by Alabama. Was offered by East Carolina and Vanderbilt
Chris Mayes (4 stars)- Not recruited by Alabama or Florida and not offered by Auburn or Tennessee. Was offered by Kentucky, Maryland, Memphis and Vanderbilt
Devin Bowman (3 stars) Not recruited by Alabama, Auburn or Florida
Watts Dantzler (3 stars)-legit but not recruited by Florida)
Chris Conley (3 stars) Not recruited by Alabama or Florida and not offered by Auburn or Florida State. Was offered by Maryland, Vanderbilt and Wake Forest
Zach Witchett (3 stars)- Not recruited by Alabama, Auburn or Florida and not offered by Clemson, Miami, North Carolina, Tennessee or Virginia Tech. Was offered by Maryland and Toledo
David Andrews (3 stars) Not recruited by Alabama, Auburn or Florida. Was offered by Duke, Michigan and Vanderbilt
Hunter Long (3 stars)- Was not recruited by Alabama, Auburn and Florida. Was not offered by Arkansas, Mississippi STATE< OR North Carolina. Was offered by Arkansas State (not to be confused with Arkansas), Memphis, Middle Tennessee State, Murray State and Tennessee-Martin.
Chris Sanders (3 stars)-Not recruited by Alabama or Florida and not offered by Tennessee or South Carolina
Nathan Theus (2 stars)- Not recruited by Alabama or Auburn and not offered by Florida. Was offered by Florida Atlantic.
calvin
December 26th, 2010
10:12 am
So, Bulldog Bradley, why didn’t you bother to mention
that Tech beat Michigan State in Birmingham with Todd Rampley
replacing Dewberry?
BS Mark
December 26th, 2010
10:27 am
Time honored tradition = 2 in 20 years?
I am impressed that your research went that far back. Someone must have told you about Dewberry.
Wasn’t Edwards a transfer from virginia Tech? If so, it was only a matter of time.
Will Stephen Hill ever make a consistent positive contribution?
Vinnie Dooley
December 26th, 2010
10:34 am
Mr. Bradley, so you’re still upset that you couldn’t influence the NCAA or Auburn to sit Cam Newton for the Auburn vs. Leghumpers game? I must admit, you gave it a valiant effort and the game proved why you were so adamantly on that bandwagon: The Tigers and especially Cam whipped the lowly dawgs 42 – 10 after the 1st quarter.
And I agree with BS MarK: You are clearly giving it to GT, trying to make headlines with your pathetic “A Tradition Continues ….” header. 2 in 20 years? Hardly big news, however, I suspect it helps give you some relief about your jailbirds in Athens.
Covers Dixie like the Dew
December 26th, 2010
10:43 am
Atlanta Falcons Coach Mike Smith is good.
NoFKNdog
December 26th, 2010
11:13 am
Yo dog fans, you SUCK!! Understand?
GOD BLESS AMERICA.
Dublin Dawg
December 26th, 2010
11:30 am
Just checked out Tech IS smarter post about our recruits. He’s right. Damn, I thought we had a much better class than that.
Fire Mark's Rectum
December 26th, 2010
12:23 pm
Just so you know, both my children graduated from Ga Tech within the past eight years, one just this last weekend. Their average salary is over $140,000 per year. Match that if you can Mutts.
catlady
December 26th, 2010
1:01 pm
When I looked at that picture, I thought Bill Curry had a piece of the hedges held between his teeth, like a rose! Oh, my!
Fan of the Game
December 26th, 2010
1:50 pm
Fire Mark’s Rectum – I am glad that your kids are doing well. I have many friends that are lawyers, veterinarians, doctors and they all make well over $140,000. We can sit here and argue all we want. Both schools have degrees that are automatically 6 figures and we have some that you have to work yourself up to that. What is sad is that both schools sign athletes that are not college material and they usually don’t make it.
happy warrior
December 26th, 2010
1:57 pm
Can someone please find out why the suspended players for Ohio State can play in the Bowl game? UGa receiver, A.J. Green did basically the same thing and got the next four games. He did not get this opportunity. The NCAA gave in to Ohio State. Most of these players are leaving for the NFL now.
Mark Bradley`s Booster
December 26th, 2010
3:11 pm
I guess the good news is there is only one more curfew
to possibly break…tonight. CPJ might consider a 6 p:m
time tonight or he may have to have some players go both ways tomorrow night.
Cardinal Sin
December 26th, 2010
5:22 pm
BS Mark wrote, “Time honored tradition = 2 in 20 years?
I am impressed that your research went that far back. Someone must have told you about Dewberry.”
No, Bradley has been writing this same slop for over that long – hasn’t changed or moved on.
Cardinal Sin
December 26th, 2010
5:53 pm
I know Mark was so excited to post his update above, that the AJC edit staff didn’t have time to correct his errata. It is defensive “linebacker” Anthony Egbuniwe and three more players “have” been suspended, not “has” been suspended.
Maybe the dawg fans won’t notice this sloppy prose, as the article is tailored to their limited mentality, but the rest of us can sit back and grin at this journalistic masterpiece. After all these years of doing the exact same thing one would expect the basics could be done properly.
Also, I am curious about the ingenuity of the three who missed curfew as to trumping Dewberry’s story – as I thought Dewberry’s tale was quite unique. Or is the choice of words here again a lack of professionalism merely to target GT.
Mark holier than thou Bradley
December 26th, 2010
8:59 pm
OK WHERE’S THE ARTICLE ABOUT CALEB KING BEING INELIGIBLE AND WHAT ABOUT THE KY QB BEING ARRESTED FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT, WHAT A GREAT LEADER THAT IS, OH NO, IF THEY DO NOT GO TO GT, IT IS NOT NEWS
Doc
December 27th, 2010
5:20 pm
The Ohio St suspensions have to be the biggest, most hypocritical of all time. Suspend 5 guys, but not until 9 months from now. Are any of these bozo’s parents. You catch your kid doing something bad enough to warrant punishment, but you don’t levy it, until next year? C’mon man!! What this shows is how powerful the boosters and bcs bozos are. Obviously they don’t care about the kids. That the ohio state players were forced to sell their personal memorebalia is sad enough, but let the fat cats with the private jets and $2000 suits pile it on the ones creating the product. Football players deserve a stipend. The fat cats sucking off the cream, livin large…..gotta go.
Pimple popper
December 27th, 2010
8:59 pm
Bugs lose again… no surprise