Vince Carter: No longer Magic. Joe Johnson: Still a Hawk. (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)
The Hawks spent the past two seasons trying to get past Orlando, trying and failing. A check of the standings shows that Atlanta is again gazing up at the Magic, though the Magic team that will appear tonight at Philips Arena has been rendered unrecognizable. Because we saw over the weekend how much the Magic valued simply finishing ahead of the Hawks.
With two trades, the Magic dumped everyone of note except Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson. Vince Carter, gone. Rashard Lewis, gone. Mickael Pietrus, gone. Marcin Gortat, gone. For those keeping score at home, that marks an offloading of two starters and two rotational subs.
The Magic wound up with Hedo Turkoglu, who used to play for Orlando but left as a free agent, plus Gilbert Arenas, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark. That’s a major December overhaul for any team, especially one that holds fourth place in the NBA East. (The Hawks are fifth.) And there’s no guarantee it will work. But functionality isn’t the issue today; ambition is.
The Magic reached the NBA finals in 2009 and looked primed to do it again last season, but they were bounced in the Eastern Conference finals by Boston, which entered the playoffs as the East’s No. 4 seed. Orlando had just obliterated the No. 3 seed — your Atlanta Hawks — by the record aggregate of 101 points in four numbing Round 2 games.
Then LeBron James made his Decision and the NBA Southeast — heck, the whole NBA — changed. The Magic entered the season having chosen to combat the star-spangled Miami Heat with good ol’ continuity. That worked for a while: Orlando won 15 of its first 19 games. Then it hit a rough patch. (How rough? Well, the Magic lost at home to the Hawks.) Meanwhile, the Heat embarked on a winning streak that has reached 12 games and lifted LeBron’s crew to the top of the division.
And Orlando, depending on your slant, either recognized reality or panicked big-time. His team having lost four times in five games, Magic general manager Otis Smith deep-sixed a blueprint that won 59 games last season to bet on the likes of Arenas, who was suspended by NBA last season for celebrating Bring Your Firearm To Work Day, and Turkoglu, who isn’t as good now as he was when he left Orlando 18 months ago.
Which brings us, however circuitously, to the Hawks. They’ve had the same starting lineup since Mike Bibby arrived in February 2008. They’ve had success — taking the champs-to-be Celtics to Game 7 in 2008; winning a playoff series in 2009 and 2010; going 100-64 over the past two regular seasons — but they’ve exited the same way two springs running: Getting swept in Round 2. Yet these Hawks are essentially the same as last season’s, the only difference being the head coach.
The Hawks won their first six games under Larry Drew, who was promoted when management, such as it is, decided Mike Woodson’s longtime assistant was just the man to take them where Woodson could not. They’ve since gone 11-12, losing to every opponent of note save Orlando. Joe Johnson missed 2 1/2 weeks, which didn’t seem to matter one way or another, which doesn’t say much for the Hawks’ decision to keep him at the staggering cost of $120 million.
And now we ask: The Hawks have changed coaches and re-upped Johnson, and they’re on pace to win 48 games, down from the 53 of last season. They’ve done little to suggest they’d have a postseason prayer against the Celtics or the Heat — the Magic’s status is in definite flux — and by shedding Woodson the Hawks essentially said, “We want to do better.”
The Magic saw themselves as not being quite good enough and took a flier. Should the Hawks, who weren’t as good as the Magic, do the same? Should they break up their longstanding Core Four? If so, who’d leave? (By process of elimination, it would have to be Josh Smith. Al Horford’s too good, and nobody would take Johnson’s salary and nobody wants Marvin Williams.) Do they cut ties with Jamal Crawford, who’s seeking a new contract?
Or do they stay the course, even if the course isn’t apt to take them anywhere they haven’t already been? The Magic weren’t satisfied with what they’d done and what they had. Are the Hawks?
By Mark Bradley
About here, we move to the snappy discourse part of our program. I’m at the arena and will be happy to chat with one and all about the Hawks, the Magic and the world in general. And you should know that the Magic are starting a team — Turkoglu and J. Richardson are in the lineup — that hasn’t yet practiced. Said Stan Van Gundy, the Orlando coach: “The Hawks have been together six years; we haven’t been together six hours.”
Please join me for a fun-filled and frolicsome evening. To borrow from James Brown: Please, please, please. As ever, I thank you in advance.
209 comments Add your comment
J.J.M.
December 20th, 2010
7:14 pm
media never gives atlanta sports team love period because they are not use to the teams winning
J.J.M.
December 20th, 2010
7:17 pm
lol josh heard howard coming
J.J.M.
December 20th, 2010
7:19 pm
hawks scared of howard
J.J.M.
December 20th, 2010
7:21 pm
are the comments posting?
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:23 pm
Hawks lead 11-6 after 6:13. The Magic look out of sync. Brandon Bass has taken five shots, Dwight Howard one.
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
7:23 pm
Mark, I thought Please, please, please was a Beatles song.
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:23 pm
“Please Please Me” was the Beatles number, I’m fairly sure.
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
7:27 pm
just my luck: do a bit of Christmas shopping at Books, and dang if there wasnt a Books 20% off coupon in the mailbox.
jay
December 20th, 2010
7:27 pm
@Jinx – Howard has an opt out clause for the end of this season.
@yo-daddy – You are too high on the Magic. Turkdoodoo is past his prime. Attack Howard and get him in foul trouble and there goes their interior presence. Then what do you have? Nelson is nice, J Rich is nice, but I’m not sure how many playoff series he’s won. Once Joe completely heals and gets his shot back I see nothing on the Magic that scares me now. Vince has always been a Hawks killer and now he’s gone west. Rashard was a match up nightmare for us and he’s gone to sorry Washington. Gortat coming off the bench was significantly better than whatever center we brought off the bench. This was a great trade for Atlanta.
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
7:28 pm
yes, you are correct on that. i’ve never heard the James Brown song Please Please Please. Or are those words embedded in another song?
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
7:29 pm
Maybe “Shame, shame, shame” would have been a better lead in considering the state of the Hawks.
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:29 pm
Hawks 14, OM 11. Not the greatest game ever.
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:31 pm
“Please Please Please” is part of the famous “Live at the Apollo” long player.
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
7:34 pm
Zaza needs to be starting every game with horford at the 4 and josh at the 3
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
7:35 pm
some folks thing James Brown’s best song was Dooley’s Junkyard Dogs. I think “I Feel Good” was his best.
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
7:36 pm
Ole Jamesy sure could dance, but he needed a better hair stylist.
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
7:37 pm
how’s the crowd tonight? thin?
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:37 pm
Hawks up six after the first.
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:38 pm
Crowd is bigger than usual
He Hate Me
December 20th, 2010
7:40 pm
I’m torn. Which team am I less interested in? Hawks or Thrashers? Thrashers or Hawks? I have zero interest in each so I guess it’s a test. Mark, you and Schultz would do a great service to this city by taking a nice long vacation to the south Pacific until March Madness.
J.J.M.
December 20th, 2010
7:44 pm
I would release mo evans
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
7:45 pm
Mark I can still shoot better than Mo Evans what is his shooting % this year 15%???
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:46 pm
The Hawks lead 23-18 after 16 minutes
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:47 pm
Mo Evans has missed 67 percent of his tries this season
RockstarWilson
December 20th, 2010
7:49 pm
Orlando making a bad trade should have no bearing on whether the Hawks can or cannot beat the Magic. The Magic ruined their team by getting rid of Rashad Lewis. Lewis is one of the best 3-point shooting guys in nba history. Without Lewis, the Magic are going nowhere. I do like the acquisitions of Turkelu and Gilbert Arenas. Those are brilliant moves. I just wish the Magic could have kept Lewis and the trade would have made more sense if you trade Petrus and Carter for Terkelu and Arenas straight up. That move would have made the Magic the world champions this season. Guaranteed!
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
7:49 pm
what’s the incongruity here: …but before he steps in, let’s pause for station identification. this is the Georgia football network.
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
7:50 pm
Orlando is really going to miss Gortat.
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:51 pm
Jason Collins with five points in 30 seconds.
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
7:55 pm
I agree Rockstar, I bet Joe likes the trade because i remember Peitrus defense giving him problems in the playoffs
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
7:56 pm
Hawks by eight. Lousy game, I must say.
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
7:58 pm
Go Jason! man Mark he looks like he lost at least 50 pounds from last season.
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
8:01 pm
I barely remember Collins getting off the bench last season
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
8:02 pm
Bibby’s pick n roll is are best play the last couple of weeks
jay
December 20th, 2010
8:03 pm
@Rockstar….Even if I totally disregarded Arenas’ off-court problems I can’t ignore two full blown knee surgeries. Now add back in that he’s our there mentally and I don’t see that as a brilliant move esp at the 18 mill or so he’s making per year. Turkudoodoo has been getting dumped from team to team for a reason. He’s not good. Sorry, but Howard and Nelson is all you guys have. J Rich is a nice side piece.
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todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
8:05 pm
figure it out Mark. you got nothing better to do.
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
8:07 pm
I think he was at Zaza’s new restrants to much last year
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
8:08 pm
Lead’s at 4. Neither team doing much.
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
8:10 pm
How was that a foul on bibby?
JSS
December 20th, 2010
8:12 pm
@ Mark Bradley…
Name “The Fabulous Flames” and many will forgive you for fanning the flames regarding Joe’s contact?
JSS
December 20th, 2010
8:14 pm
@ Ted Striker…
Co-sign… Happy Holidays!
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
8:15 pm
Hawks 43, Magic 38. Halftime.
Kevin Willis
December 20th, 2010
8:15 pm
ugly game so far i agree Mark
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
8:16 pm
Can’t name the Flames, I’m afraid. Can’t name the Atlanta Flames, either.
JSS
December 20th, 2010
8:23 pm
Ugly play at home equals Hawks have a chance against the Magic… Otherwise, you’ll get a lot of last year!
Headley Lamar
December 20th, 2010
8:25 pm
Thrashers winning again tonight.
One of those stories that might force its way to the front.
todd grantham
December 20th, 2010
8:26 pm
ok: but before he steps in is obviously a batter; and you would not hear that on the Georgia Football network.
Jt
December 20th, 2010
8:28 pm
Mark, I don’t mean to suck-up. Those who know me know I do not pass out compliments easily, but damn you can frame an issue with words. Is that why they keep your ass around?
Mark Bradley
December 20th, 2010
8:30 pm
I really don’t know why they keep me around, Jt. But I appreciate the sentiment.
Caleb
December 20th, 2010
8:31 pm
Been a pretty boring game so far,but the hawks are winning so fine by me