From those halcyon days when the Hawks could handle a good team. (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)
If ever we needed a reminder that it’s not how you start but how you finish, the Hawks and the Celtics provided it. The Hawks finished third in the NBA East and were 4-0 against the Celtics, who wound up with the East’s No. 4 seed, in the 2009-2010 regular season.
Emphasis on “regular season.”
The Hawks got swept in Round 2 of the playoffs by an aggregate 101 points and were so mortified they dumped their coach and promoted his longtime assistant, which presumably made sense to somebody. The Celtics beat Cleveland in Round 2 and Orlando in Round 3 and reached the NBA finals. And now the Hawks, who were seen seven months ago as a rising power, seem in retreat, while Boston is doing as royalty always does — biding its time until the playoffs.
Seven months ago you’d much rather have been the Hawks than the Celtics, who were regarded as too old and too cranky. Now it’s hard to know what to make of the Hawks, who in the course of 13 games under new coach Larry Drew have managed to muddy the waters even more.
The Celtics arrived at Philips Arena to play the Hawks on Monday, and before the game a Boston writer asked Drew a question containing the E-word. And Drew flat-out admitted that his Hawks don’t deserve to be considered among the NBA’s elite.
“It’s a very difficult challenge,” Drew said. “In order to get to the next step, there has to be more of a sense of urgency with every team we play, not just in certain games.”
Then: “Good teams don’t take possessions off.”
Then: “We’re hoping to get to that level.”
Then: “I don’t know if you can teach it [elitism]. I think you just harp on it.”
Then: “If we were at that [elite] level, there were certainly a couple of ballgames we’d have won. We’d have toughed it out.”
Then: “You can see when the better teams reach a certain point in a game, they tighten it up. I don’t think we’re there yet.”
We pause to ask: Wasn’t the whole point of replacing Mike Woodson with his assistant of six seasons the feeling among ownership that the Hawks were only the right coach away from elite status? (Drew himself conceded Monday: “I think we have the personnel to get to that level.”) If so, why have these Hawks started worse under the kinder, gentler and presumably more innovative Drew than they did a year ago under Woodson?
The Hawks entered Monday’s game 8-5, having lost five of seven after a 6-0 start achieved against an array of opponents listed in Who’s Not Who. Of the Hawks’ eight victories, none had been over a team that holds a winning record. Worse, four of the Hawks’ five losses had come at home.
A year ago the Hawks were 11-2 after 13 games, and those 13 included road stops against the Lakers and the Celtics. Last season’s Hawks lost their first home game on Thanksgiving, their fourth on New Year’s Day. This time a year ago the Hawks appeared much closer to elite than they do today, which makes no sense when you consider that these Hawks are essentially those Hawks plus Jordan Crawford, Josh Powell and Etan Thomas. And Larry Drew.
In sum, the Hawks entered Monday’s game in dire need of a victory over somebody who can actually play. The schedule won’t always be so soft. Of the Hawks’ first six road games, only two had come against a team that made the playoffs last season, and one of those two was against Cleveland, which lost a free agent of some consequence over the summer. And Drew isn’t exactly working under a vote of the utmost confidence: He’s the NBA’s lowest-paid head coach and he’s working on a two-year contract.
Said Drew, speaking of his team’s uphill climb: “We’ll keep working at it. We’ll keep trying to get there.”
Good idea. Better hurry, though.
And with that, the floor is again open for questions, comments and reader submissions as to why Mike Woodson wasn’t so bad after all. I’ll be here all game, and I can already impart one snippet of information: Rajon Rondo, who destroys Mike Bibby, isn’t going to play. That’s the good news. The bad news: Rondo’s backup is Nate Robinson, who does likewise to Bibby. Pick thy point-guard poison.
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Sonny Clusters
November 22nd, 2010
7:28 pm
Deer spotted on North Avenue
By Alexis Stevens
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Paul Johnson had a little surprise for Georgia but the AJC has blown his cover.
Ree Roe
November 22nd, 2010
7:29 pm
Rehire Woody
-REE Roe!
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:29 pm
It’s 31-10
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:29 pm
if Ted is present i would assume that Jane is not.
Blackberry Pie
November 22nd, 2010
7:29 pm
todd grantham, don’t “choke” on some doughnuts tonight
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:30 pm
I guess the me: Ted; you: Jane routine grew old.
Rev in Tampa
November 22nd, 2010
7:30 pm
Does the NBA have a mercy rule?
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:30 pm
The Hawks’ 10 points include three field goals — one each by Joe Johnson, Mike Bibby and Maurice Evans. Their four free throws: Two by Josh Smith, one each by Johnson and Bibby. It’s not good when I can remember every point
Blackberry Pie
November 22nd, 2010
7:30 pm
todd grantham, hiw is that 3-4 defense working out?
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:31 pm
That’s not Jane. But he’s definitely accompanied by a female.
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:31 pm
BBP, wait till Saturday night and make your judgement.
tom
November 22nd, 2010
7:31 pm
nate robinson just hit a three and is now flapping his arms like a bird.
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:32 pm
Judy, perhaps? heh, heh
Sonny Clusters
November 22nd, 2010
7:32 pm
Ann Margret
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:33 pm
The famous Semih Erden scores for Boston
Sonny Clusters
November 22nd, 2010
7:33 pm
She’s 69 years old and has held up better than Stinky Wintes.
Chillin on Paradise Island
November 22nd, 2010
7:34 pm
Lol its OK Atlanta fans. We got the Falcons to cheer for.
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:35 pm
dont know if you’re a fan Mark, but this will remind you the good old days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5YCQePkVfM
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:35 pm
Boston has trebled the score.
Blackberry Pie
November 22nd, 2010
7:35 pm
Mutt Arrested on MLK Drive
By John Doe
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Another mutt arrest for Richt, not surprising
J.J.M.
November 22nd, 2010
7:36 pm
sell the hawks and thrashers asap
jlewis
November 22nd, 2010
7:36 pm
Mark:
You and others wanted a more balanced offense, move it around, everyone touches, which is fine. However, Josh has the ball in his hands more than anyone, and I dont care what his numbers are, he makes bad and momentum killing decisions. Its no coincidence we are beating bad teams and losing to good ones, good teams are smarter, a Josh Smith weakness.
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:37 pm
Boston leads by 26 points after 12 minutes. Whoa
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:37 pm
Playing the strangler tonight, perhaps.
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November 22nd, 2010
7:37 pm
if im josh at this point I wish the trade rumors were true
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Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:39 pm
I don’t know that I’ve witnessed a worse first quarter
Sonny Clusters
November 22nd, 2010
7:39 pm
Where are you seated? Court side?
Blackberry Pie
November 22nd, 2010
7:39 pm
Mark
Take a break, it’s gonna be a long night
Dre
November 22nd, 2010
7:40 pm
You think Sund will make some moves after this game?
Blackberry Pie
November 22nd, 2010
7:40 pm
Mark
Take a break, it’s going to be a long night
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:40 pm
If you’re going to Athens sounds like there may not be time to see the good Mrs. Bradley in Kentucky for Thanksgiving.
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:40 pm
Hawks have slashed the deficit to 22.
lottie-roddy
November 22nd, 2010
7:41 pm
…they peaked in ‘08
sad.
next.
Brandon from WR
November 22nd, 2010
7:41 pm
Boom!
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:41 pm
is the famous arthur treacher still with the hawks?
stizz
November 22nd, 2010
7:41 pm
This is pathetic. Thank God for management in the Braves and Falcons who actually want to win. When Marvin got taken out he was all smiles and handshakes like he did something productive. He and Nanak need to go ASAP so we can get a productive big man in here.
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:42 pm
The Celtics have been lousy in second quarters, I should note.
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:43 pm
Arthur Triche is the Hawks’ publicist. Arthur Treacher is the Hawks’ caterer.
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:44 pm
If the Hawks have attempted to play defense, I’ve not noticed.
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:44 pm
they better be pretty dang lousy for the Hustlin Hawks to draw near.
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:44 pm
good one. and the Hawks are stinking up the place like dead fish.
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:45 pm
Boston has 48 points in 15 minutes. That’s on pace for 154
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:45 pm
what the Hawks need is Brook Whitmire to cheer them on to victory.
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:46 pm
kinda reminds you of Georgia’s defense, huh?
stizz
November 22nd, 2010
7:46 pm
I meant Jamal, this auto correct on my phone is ridiculous
Mark Bradley
November 22nd, 2010
7:47 pm
Speaking of defense: Celtics made 72 percent of their first-quarter shots
todd grantham
November 22nd, 2010
7:47 pm
although the Dogs should be able to take Tech sans Nesbitt.