The new Philly hero: Matt Diaz, foiler of Red Man (with video)
"Down goes Red Man! Down goes Red Man!" (AP photo)
Philadelphia — Patrons at an Eagles game infamously pelted Santa Claus with snowballs, but Philly fans weren’t booing Matt Diaz. On the contrary, the Braves’ outfielder became a local hero for his sidling takedown of an individual who has come already to be known as Red Man. (Not to be confused with Mark Redman, former lousy Braves’ pitcher.)
Seventh inning, Monday night, Jayson Werth batting: Red Man, clad in red spandex head-to-toe, capers from the left-field stands and heads across the outfield. Watching from the press box, you could see that Diaz, stationed in left, thought about impeding Red Man’s progress but decided against it.
Then, when security forces arrived and forced Red Man back left but started slipping in their pursuit, Diaz took matters unto his own hip.
He blindsided Red Man. Stuck out his right leg and Red Man went flying. “He got right up, but then the security guy crushed him,” Diaz said afterward.
Diaz was the postgame focal point in the Braves’ clubhouse because an intruding fan here had been tasered by a security man earlier this season. “I saw the cop coming with the Taser,” Diaz said. “I figured the guy would rather have me trip him than get tased.”
Wait a second, a Philly writer asked: Did he really see someone with a Taser? (I told you: They take this seriously up here.) “No,” Diaz said. “I was kidding.”
Diaz’s stated motivation: He remembered a Braves’ security guard getting hurt in a similar chase a while back. “I wanted to spear [Red Man] so bad, but I didn’t want to get hurt and I didn’t want to hurt him. I just stuck out my foot and he hit it.”
I asked if Red Man had, in their moment of close proximity, revealed his secret identity. “No,” Diaz said. “I’m sure the judge will find it.”
Red Man’s reaction to being tripped? He was shocked, Diaz said, adding that he could see the mystery man’s wide eyes through the costume.
And the Philly fans? They cheered Diaz, who tipped his cap. And who told reporters afterward: “They were very complimentary. I heard everything from, ‘I just put you on YouTube‘ to a girl with an ‘Utley marry me’ sign say, ‘I’ll marry you, too.’ ”
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Reid Adair
September 21st, 2010
10:11 am
That was hilarious. I love watching that clip. Matt Diaz taking down an idiot Phillies fan.
Well done, Matt … and great post, Mark.
Benjamin
September 21st, 2010
10:12 am
I have a new favorite player.
Benjamin
September 21st, 2010
10:12 am
Second, for the record. [Nothin' wrong with a top two finish.]
ew
September 21st, 2010
10:13 am
Diaz could have blindsided “Red Man” and really cleaned his clock if he wanted to.
Felix Millan
September 21st, 2010
10:14 am
typical Philly fan– classless idiots
Anthony
September 21st, 2010
10:15 am
It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia has “Green Man,” now the Phillies have “Red Man”
julie07
September 21st, 2010
10:15 am
Way to go Matt!
John Learson
September 21st, 2010
10:21 am
Felix Millan – Typical clueless Atlanta fan.
It happens at every ballpark. At least Philly supports their team and actually sells out during a playoff run.
Rick
September 21st, 2010
10:22 am
Look at the bald security guy do a face plant. LOL
Dawg Fud
September 21st, 2010
10:27 am
…and yet we lost the game on 2 more stupid errors. this is why this team will not make the post-season. we play stupid baseball.
Pete In Philly
September 21st, 2010
10:29 am
Give Diaz free cheesesteaks and Tastykakes for life! (Uh… don’t eat the cheesesteaks less than two hours before a game; your heart will explode.)
Latest news up here in Philly is that “Red Man” was a 17 year-old kid, whose parent were not rushing to juvi lockup to bail him out.
The downside to having as many sellouts as we have a CBP (110+ in a row and counting), is the increased likelihood of idiots, morons, and knuckleheads showing up to do stupid things or attempt to grab attention (also a stupid thing).
What gives this incident a topping of idiocy to go with his stupidity is that he’ll get no direct attention. The cameras in Philly only showed it from a great distance; he wore a mask; and since he’s a juvenile, not even his name is going to be released.
As for Matt Diaz; dude you are WELCOME in Philly from this point on! Look for the fans to cheer you when you take the field tonight and tomorrow night.
Philly Phantastico
September 21st, 2010
10:32 am
I love Diaz. Not as much as I love Melky though.
ATL Phillies Fan
September 21st, 2010
10:34 am
Speaking as a Phillies fan, I think this guy (and all others like him) is a complete moron. I wish Diaz would have laid a good lickin’ on him.
Mitchell
September 21st, 2010
10:35 am
The best part of the game was when Matty got a hit with a runner in scoring position in the second inning and he didn’t score.
That’s three times on this road trip that’s happened.
That’s what you get with BMac on the bases.
KJ
September 21st, 2010
10:38 am
“It happens at every ballpark.”
LOL delusional Philly fans. Yeah, they throw batteries and cheer career-ending paralysis in EVERY city, amirite? There’s a reason you have a prison built into your stadium.
Team Redneck
September 21st, 2010
10:40 am
I love how you guys take any chance to hack at Philly fans. . . .hello. . .this behavior is seen in pretty much any fan base. You get the same behavior at college football games for goodness sakes. Maybe if Braves had packed stadiums on a nightly basis they’d see more of this.
Team Redneck
September 21st, 2010
10:41 am
KJ- um, no, we don’t have a prison built into our stadium. Get your facts straight.
Team Redneck
September 21st, 2010
10:42 am
This kindve behavior happens anywhere. Maybe if the Braves had a packed house on a nightly basis they’d see this kind’ve stuff on occasion.
fo real
September 21st, 2010
10:45 am
hi MB any idea if the players are briefed on something like this pregame?
DC Brave
September 21st, 2010
10:48 am
That was so awesome…Diaz has long been a favorite…I just wish he could get his Captain Caveman thing going again with the bat.
observation
September 21st, 2010
10:52 am
The influence of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia continues. The Green Man phenomenon started with them, and of course some philly fans embraced it, especially during the recent World Series run. Then it spread to Vancouver where two fans there routinely dress up as the Green Man next to the penalty box and basically taunt the players in it.
Now we have Red Man in Philly. I’m sure Charlie would be proud of his impact on pop culture.
Pete In Philly
September 21st, 2010
10:55 am
Sadly, the exuberance of the fans in Philadelphia will lead to idiots (I’ll never call them fans) that run out in the field, disrupting the game.
For the 2010 Phillies season, total attendance at Citizen’s Bank Park is nearly 3,500,000 and the park has the lowest percentage of “no shows” in the league. That means the number of people who buy tickets but don’t sell/use them is very low. Out of those millions, you’re going to get a few like this. Regrettable but unavoidable.
Proud Native American & Obama Hater
September 21st, 2010
10:57 am
This story and blog postings are just the latest examples of the insensitive Braves Organization trying to keep the “Red Man” down.
Ted M
September 21st, 2010
11:04 am
That was funny.
But what’s deal with all the secrecy around Jerious Norwood injury?
ByteMe
September 21st, 2010
11:06 am
Not “keep the ‘Red Man’ down”… but knock him down just long enough for the cowboys to shoot him.
Big Tobacco
September 21st, 2010
11:09 am
Mark, that is the rudest treatment I’ve ever seen by a MLB player!
Sally
September 21st, 2010
11:13 am
Mark Bradley, you never miss a chance to make a derogatory remark about someone, do you? There was no reason for you to bring up Mark Redman in the beginning of this article. You have a mean streak in you about a mile wide. What is your level of athleticism, and what qualifies you to sit around and pass judgement on everyone else’s?
Barbara's Boxers
September 21st, 2010
11:14 am
Maybe that red man was just trying to open a casino in left field.
Maybe he was just hungry and hunting for “Tatanka.”
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
11:14 am
KJ, get your facts straight, moron. The old Veterans Stadium had a jail in it, not the current stadiums. Cheering a career ending injury to Michael Irvin? The scumbag of the NFL? Get over yourself already. Magic #8. Phillies, please eliminate these whining, sniveling babies. The NY Mets of the Deep South. Can’t wait until next weekend when the Phillies burn down Atlanta again. Maybe then their cry baby GM can build a better field so he can stop complaining about Citizen’s Bank Park.
Jeff
September 21st, 2010
11:18 am
Diaz should have pulled a James Harrison on the fan…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC3xNSiRTDc
johnnybravo
September 21st, 2010
11:24 am
Has lost all faith. The season is over… Why, because our defense sucks! Were finished! can hold it together, heyward sucks, bmac is fat, and alex gonzo struck out. WE HAD TO HAVE THAT GAME! Were done. Bye bye playoffs! PHUCK!
Benjamin
September 21st, 2010
11:24 am
Phillies’10, there’s no reason to cheer a man who gets seriously injured at any point in a professional sports event, man. Irvin or whomever.
Philly fans get a bad rap, I’ll agree, but you can’t defend people for cheering someone suffer a potentially serious spinal cord injury.
ketchupdad
September 21st, 2010
11:33 am
I find it amazing that fans that do “the Chop” feel they’re in a position to knock anyone else. And that’s a team sponsored event! And Mark, the snowball incident was in 1968. A 42 year old event is the best you’ve got?
Sid
September 21st, 2010
11:36 am
Speaking of fans, idiots or not, could it be that the Phillies are going to end up possibly knocking us out of the playoffs because they average 15,000 more fans per game?
Michael
September 21st, 2010
11:38 am
Something interesting actually happens at a baseball game and you all are upset. Did Red Man disturb your nap?
Guy Incognito
September 21st, 2010
11:41 am
Philly ‘10
Didn’t y’all boo Santa at an Eagle’s game? Stay classy Phil’DELphia
Jimmy Cokes
September 21st, 2010
11:43 am
The Santa incident is so silly — first of all, it’s 40+ years ago. Second, it wasn’t THE Santa Claus. Philadelphians did not boo the jolly old elf who comes down your chimney to bring presents to children. He was a skinny, drunk 22 year old who was thrust onto the field by Eagles management when the guy who was supposed to play Santa didn’t show up. He was a terrible, terrible Santa, and you would have booed him too.
As for Michael Irvin — He reaped what he sowed. A genuinely awful guy. No one should have a career-ending injury cheered, but it’s not like it was Mother Theresa out there. He was a bastard.
RK
September 21st, 2010
11:44 am
Diaz should’ve choked him — we know the Braves are good at that.
chris
September 21st, 2010
11:45 am
GB
PHI 90-61 –
ATL 86-65 4
The Snark
September 21st, 2010
11:52 am
Bob Eucker used to say that Phillies fans were so mean, they would go to the airport when the game got rained out just to boo bad landings.
Hillbilly Deluxe
September 21st, 2010
11:57 am
a girl with an ‘Utley marry me’ sign say, ‘I’ll marry you, too.’ ”
Is polygamy legal in Philadelphia?
The Reverend Earl W. Bedpan IV
September 21st, 2010
11:59 am
It’s an abomination for the Braves player to attempt to injure an innocent man. I hope MLB fines Diaz for his unlawful and godless act.
Deb
September 21st, 2010
12:00 pm
Benjamin, two things. 1) The fan cheered at first when Irvin was injured, as they did NOT know the severity of it. Once they did, they stopped cheering. Also when he gave them thumbs up leaving on the stretcher, they cheered FOR him. 2) I seem to recall that when Chris Chandler was injured that alot of folks cheered as well, because they wanted Vick in the game. Fans cheer injuries everywhere at football games.
Also, the booing Santa thing happened in 1968! And they booed because the team sucked and then gave the fans some plucked out of the stands skinny, ragged Santa. They weren’t booing at Santa, there were booing the team being so bad they couldn’t even do Santa right (and FYI, the guy who played Santa has gone on record saying he did suck and deserved to be booed).
Look, there is plenty of things to knock Philly fans for (Booing when McNabb was drafted, throwing batteries, this idiot running onto the field). But the Irvin and Santa incidents are NOT among them.
Oh, and BTW, you lost. That tap, tap taping sound is us hammering the nails in the Braves coffin.
Phillies, Class of the NL
September 21st, 2010
12:00 pm
THE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES TRULY ARE THE CLASS OF THE NATIONAL LEAGUE – and a blueprint for other NL teams to follow on how to succeed in the modern game.
On another note, braves fans are a blueprint for how not to fill a stadium in a pennant race.
Phillies, Class of the NL
September 21st, 2010
12:01 pm
you tell em Deb – their arguments are so tired aren’t they?
MrDan
September 21st, 2010
12:01 pm
Hey Matt. Have the Bulldogs’ defense called yet?
F*CK A philly
September 21st, 2010
12:01 pm
LOL….of course the phillies average more fans at their games, there team has been in two straight world series, its only natural right? Not to mention that nobody in philadelphia has a life or has a job…..
Bill in Philly
September 21st, 2010
12:02 pm
As a Phillie fan who was at the game last night, I can tell you the fant reaction to Diaz’ act was universal appreciation. Thanks Matt! And a note to the media in general; giving idiots like this guy all this attention and cute nicknames like Red Man only encourages more idiots.
Heisenberg
September 21st, 2010
12:04 pm
Next time, use this training video on what to do when a fan runs on the field:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdP2G7UtS9I
Sid
September 21st, 2010
12:07 pm
Mark Redman would sign a baseball before each game he started and inscribe it with “I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME” PHIL 4:13, then give it to a fan…..!!!
At Oklahoma Redman was named 1st Team All-Big Eight, Big Eight Newcomer of the Year, NCAA All-Regional team and was a member of the College World Series All-Tournament team in 1994. In addition, he was selected as a 1st Team All-American in both of his seasons at Oklahoma.
Redman was a member of the 2003 World Series champion Florida Marlins, contributing 14 wins to the team.
Redman was chosen to play for the American League in the 2006 Major League Baseball All-Star Game as the lone representative of the Kansas City Royals. He would finish the season with a team high 11 wins.
Let’s see, Career Won Loss of 68/85, Lifetime ERA 4.85, 747 Strikeouts
Nolan Ryan, #1 in strikeouts played from 1966 to 1993, about 200 strikeouts per year. Redman played for 8 years, 747 strikeouts, or about the same average per year as Whitey Ford and many others.
Mark, show us your World Series Ring………
PoconoPhils
September 21st, 2010
12:12 pm
As previously stated, the reason Santa got pelted was b/c he was drunk. Not to let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Not to condone, but Drew dissed us first. And had it been anyone but Michael Irvin…. Look at the hand that Marlins rookie got when he pulled up lame after pitching a gem in his big-league debut. While we may not treat the villains with kid gloves, we know who the heroes are. WTG, Matt Diaz! Drinks are on us!
Btw, the longest sustained ovation for any player in Philly history was for Mario Lemieux (in his last game), who, ohbytheway, played for Pittsburgh.
The Reverend Earl W. Bedpan IV
September 21st, 2010
12:12 pm
Thou shall not covet my wife……Unless you have $150, then I will look the other way.
ketchupdad
September 21st, 2010
12:13 pm
That’s right, 12 year old name. The Phillies are giving away all those tix to the unemployed. You’re a bright fellow.
Dr. Greenthumb
September 21st, 2010
12:18 pm
With the way he was able to elude all those security personnel in hot pursuit, do you think that man in the red costume was Michael Vick of the Philadelphia Eagles?
His herpes sores would have blended right in with that red fabric.
batrol
September 21st, 2010
12:24 pm
A serious question here: DO THE PHILLIES EVER LOSE??????? Good god. It’s getting old already. At least to this Braves fan.
Michael in Dunwoody
September 21st, 2010
12:25 pm
To all Philly fans: we’ll stop mocking you for booing Santa Claus and throwing batteries when you stop rehashing arguments about not selling out games. See what I did there?
We’re all real impressed your fans (finally) support your team, but in case you haven’t noticed, no one cares, or notices, outside of Philly.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Farnsworth
September 21st, 2010
12:27 pm
Bring back the tasers and way to go Matt!
Phillies, Class of the NL
September 21st, 2010
12:27 pm
batrol, not in September, they are on a mission that will not be derailed
Phillies, Class of the NL
September 21st, 2010
12:28 pm
everyone cares about the Phillies Michael, they are the Class of the National League and soon to be 2010 World Champs
Heisenberg
September 21st, 2010
12:30 pm
I would love to see Braves take division, but have much respect for Phillies ever since their players risked injury to help the grounds crew in Colorado with the tarp. It is not necessary to hate and belittle your opponent to want to beat them. That works both ways.
Mr. Obvious
September 21st, 2010
12:32 pm
Pennsylvania has the ugliest women out of all the 50 States, followed closely by New Jersey, West Virginia and Tennessee.
If I was surrounded by that much ugliness and obesity, in addition to whatever hideousness I saw in my own mirror, I’d get drunk, throw batteries and try to make everyone else around me miserable, too.
VonZip
September 21st, 2010
12:33 pm
Would of been much better if we won the game instead of winning the Red Jump Suit man tripping contest. Thouroughly enjoyed watching Melky “did i just swing at that?” Cabbrerra continue his oh so strong hitting with RISP…. what is he like .053 with RISP?????
Michael in Dumbwoody
September 21st, 2010
12:34 pm
What did you do? Oh, yeah, remind everyone that less than 20,000 showed up last week when you were tied with the Phillies for first place. (oh, yeah, you had 30,000 tickets sold though, so that’s what counts, right?)
This is all we need to remind you: 14 consecutive post-season appearances. 1 World Series title.
Pierson Brave
September 21st, 2010
12:48 pm
Talk about a perfect time to be and idiot. The 0-2 count on Werth, then the circus and wouldn’t you know line drive to right after he was in a rut trying to guess the pitch. I say bring back the taisers on full stun. These jag-off’s need to learn that you don’t charge on to the field of play these days. Times have changed and so has the need to respond in kind.
Total momentum killer for our pitcher.
Roy Barnes
September 21st, 2010
12:52 pm
Glad Bobby will be gone! Who would start Rookie pitchers in the biggest games of the year!About as dumb as electing me as governor again!!
Pierce
September 21st, 2010
12:52 pm
Mark was it necessary for the whole throwing snowballs at santa? it was 42 years ago, 42!!!! you probably don’t even remember when it happened. be original. i think every “writer” in the nation uses this pathetic incident to slam philadelphia fans whenever something happens in philly. get some new material. plenty has happened since then.
just sayin……..
ward
September 21st, 2010
1:00 pm
I;M NOT SOLD ON MATT DIAZ. WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR THE BRAVES LATELY? HE;S HAS A BATTING AVERAGE OF 238. I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE BRAVES,BUT NOT HIM! PLAY SOMEBODY ELSE. I BET DALE MURPHY COULD STILL OUT HIT HIM, AND HE;S RETIRED.!
Heisenberg
September 21st, 2010
1:03 pm
Yo future Governor of Georgia, would you rather have had Kawacrummy out there? Or JoJo Reyes? Charlie Morton? The complain about trotting out the same old loosers?
Michael in Dunwoody
September 21st, 2010
1:04 pm
An imposter, with a sense of humor no less, I’m flattered. Again with the inconsequential attendance talk, no wonder the sports world continues to make fun of Philly fans.
Since you brought it up: 14 consecutive division titles + 1 World Series > 3 consecutive division titles + 1 World Series. Talk to me again when the Phillies set an unprecidented streak like the Braves did.
Tom
September 21st, 2010
1:05 pm
Diaz needs to work on his tripping technique.
Would’ve been hi-larious if the 3rd-base ump had run out there and pulled a yellow card on him.
ward
September 21st, 2010
1:05 pm
MAYBE MATT DIAZ CAN TAKE HITTING LESSON ;S FROM THE RED MAN.
ward
September 21st, 2010
1:14 pm
CHARLIE MANUAL WON;T BE PHILLIES MANAGER THAT LONG! NO NEED TO EVEN THINK ABOUT THE PHILLIES DOING THAT!
Pierce
September 21st, 2010
1:23 pm
where do you base this info on how lon manuel will be the manager?
ward
September 21st, 2010
1:23 pm
I HOPE THE BRAVES CAN PULL ONE OUT TONIGHT! I DON;T CARE WHAT ESPN SAYS ! THE PHILLIES CAN;T KEEP WINNING. THEY WILL HIT A DRY SPILL SOON! GO BRAVES!!!!!!!
ward
September 21st, 2010
1:26 pm
LOOK AT HOW OLD HE IS. I DON;T CARE WHAT ESPN SAYS . THE PHILLIES CAN;T GO ON WINNIG. THEY ARE GOING TO HIT A WALL SOON! GO BRAVES!!!!!!
R. Pitino
September 21st, 2010
1:27 pm
Now if Diaz and the rest of the Braves could just ‘take down’ the Phillies!
ward
September 21st, 2010
1:30 pm
LOOK AT HOW OLD HE IS, AND YOU HAVE THE NEW YORK YANKEES, AND THE BRAVES TO GO THROUGH! PHILLIES CAN;T WIN ALL THE TIME! THEY ARE GOING TO HIT A WALL SOON! GO BR AVES!!!!!!
Pierce
September 21st, 2010
1:40 pm
hahaha… ok
ward
September 21st, 2010
1:40 pm
I THINK IT;S GOING TO BE ANOTHER TIGHT GAME TONIGHT! I DON;T CARE WHAT ESPN SAYS! THEY ALWAY GO WITH THE TEAM THATS HOT. I STILL THINK THE BRAVES HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING! GO BRAVES!!!!!!
ward
September 21st, 2010
1:42 pm
I DON;T CARE WHAT ESPN SAYS THEY ALWAYS GO WITH THE TEAM THATS HOT! I STILL LIKE THE BRAVES CHANCES!!!!! GO GO BRAVES!!!!
heartofdarkness
September 21st, 2010
1:45 pm
One of my favorite Philadelphia stories involved the Easter egg hunt held at Fairmount Park. Philadelphians would come out to boo the kids who didn’t find any eggs.
Pierce
September 21st, 2010
1:45 pm
chances for what?
Redman Sucked
September 21st, 2010
1:49 pm
Sorry, Sid (@ 12:07), the MLB stats you cite simply prove Bradley’s point that Redman sucked. Lifetime ERA just a smidge below 5? Yowsers.
Philllies Rule
September 21st, 2010
2:04 pm
Quit shouting Ward you moron. You and that idiot running on the field should both be tasered. Enjoy Halliday tonight losers
ward
September 21st, 2010
2:10 pm
ANY THING CAN HAPPEN? LETS KOCK OUT THOSE PHILLIES TONIGHT! GO BRAVES!!!!!!
TTTT-Thumbody Thed Thats Thupid!
September 21st, 2010
2:10 pm
TO: Phillies, class of the NL, and other Phillies posters on here: If your fans are so great and dedicated why was one of the Phils players complaining in your newspaper after that 9th inning comback the other day vs the Gnats, that so many fans had already left? At least Braves fans are smart enough to know better than that. Heck, probably half of our wins have come in the last 3 innings! Philly Phans are Phickle!
JTH
September 21st, 2010
2:11 pm
Hopefully your next article is about the Braves beating Halladay.
ward
September 21st, 2010
2:13 pm
HOLLIDAY IS A GOOD PICHER,BUT THE BRAVS CAN BEAT HIM TOO! IT;S NOT AS HOPELESS AS IT LOOKS! GO BRAVES!!!!!
P Rose
September 21st, 2010
2:15 pm
JJ is hurt (again) and doesn’t want to pitch.
KK is awful and (thankfully) won’t be allowed to pitch.
MM gets thrown into the lion’s den tonight and HAS to pitch. Can the Braves win this series?
NN-OO.
21519148
September 21st, 2010
2:17 pm
Hey thupid that was the Jason Werth walk off game against the Nats .believe it or not some people do leave ballgames .but dont try and say that Phils fans roll out early.Dodger fans head for the gate in the 6th inning in La.did it look like Phils fans left early last night?at least their is fans in CBP
ward
September 21st, 2010
2:18 pm
PITCHERS CAN BREAK DOWN TOO! EVEN THE GOOD ONES CAN FOLD! IT COULD BE OUR NIGHT! SEE YOU LATER! GO BRAVES!!!!!!
P Rose
September 21st, 2010
2:19 pm
I guess Bradley banned me. What the heck did I do wrong??
ward
September 21st, 2010
2:21 pm
IT COULD HAPPEN THE BRAVES! THE BRAVES COULD BEAT HOLLADAY. THEY HAVE DONE IT BEFORE! SEE YOU LATER!! GO BRAVES!!!!!!
P Rose
September 21st, 2010
2:21 pm
Funny. When I write something about baseball it fails to post. But when I write something like “why don’t my posts show up,” it posts. Whatever. I give up.
Abraham Lincoln
September 21st, 2010
2:25 pm
When the Braves win out to win the East division; and when these purple monkeys fly out of my colon, I will feel a lot better!
Heisenberg
September 21st, 2010
2:26 pm
Holliday is a good left fielder for the Cards. Halladay is a good pitcher for the Philllies. I would like our chances if Holliday was pitching and Halladay was in LF.
Philllies Rule
September 21st, 2010
2:35 pm
Ward: Did you skip school today dude? So you are on the computer while Mommy and Daddy are at work? Quit shouting dude. Enjoy Halliday tonight loser.
Philllies Rule
September 21st, 2010
2:38 pm
Why is it that half the time comments do not post on this board?
Pierce
September 21st, 2010
2:42 pm
Braves just better hope after the phillies clinch they just roll over for them in that final series or they may struggle to even get in the playoffs
Legend of Len Barker
September 21st, 2010
2:43 pm
Mark, MLB has already made a claim on the video and had it removed.
Not shocking in the least and I’m surprised it lasted as long as it did. Sheesh. The NFL and NBA have no problems with game footage being on YouTube (hockey isn’t a sport, so I can’t answer that one), but baseball seems to like being stuck with their head in the sand.
…
Let me correct that. You can still watch John Smoltz get hit by that foul ball in Fenway on YouTube, thus proving they are making some efforts to appease fans.
MWC
September 21st, 2010
2:51 pm
Yes, there was a jail at the Vet, and Santa got pelted because he was drunk…lmao!!
Sonny Clusters
September 21st, 2010
2:52 pm
We’re a little sore today after taking a nasty fall last night.
PHILLY FAN
September 21st, 2010
2:59 pm
WOW,,, I just started reading what the braves fans are saying and im cracking up…”Them mean philly fans..BLA BLA…Im not feeling any southern hospitality…..YOOO, braves fans, ITS OVER !!!!!!!! STICK A TOMAHAWK IN IT….Your a bunch of babies…..HAHAHAHAHA.;..
rlinaug
September 21st, 2010
3:10 pm
am i the only one old enough to remember mike curtis, linebacker for the colts, taking out a fan on the field. though, he wasn’t as gentle as diaz.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mike+curtis+colts&aq=f
rlinaug
September 21st, 2010
3:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdP2G7UtS9I
this is the correct link
Chief Hittabatta
September 21st, 2010
3:18 pm
Why the HELL are we starting 2.5 rookies against the Philthies’ best pitchers? Bring all your horses to the race or you’ll get trampled!!
Charlie Manuel's Colon
September 21st, 2010
3:21 pm
Let’s get this series over with. I’m about to EXPLODE!!!
ss
September 21st, 2010
3:55 pm
Funny to see the santa comments and the old vet comments. Best moment in the crowd: 08 presidential race. The flyer fans booed Sarah Palin. That was pretty funny!
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
3:58 pm
Guy Incognito-Yes, they did boo Santa, over 42 years ago. Wasn’t that right about the time Georgia gave equal rights to African-Americans and just over 100 years after they gave up slaves of the same ethnic background? Get a clue, Atlanta.
Bob from Philly
September 21st, 2010
4:01 pm
Yes we in Philly have Redman( a true idiot). I guess Atlanta has Invisible Man. You can’t tell me all those seats are really empty in the middle of a September pennnant drive.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:03 pm
Benjamin-Yes, you can, especially when that individual has been implicated time and again in criminal activity to include violence and bodily harm against women and his own teamates. He’s a coke head and was fired from ESPN for that reason. What possible good could he be?
Duke Fame
September 21st, 2010
4:09 pm
Couldn’t help but bring up Santa Claus, could you? I know, I know, it’s only been 46 years. It’s still relevant. Loser.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:10 pm
PoconoPhils……….dude, I can see Philly fans not liking Michael Irvin (heck, if Irvin had PUNKED my Cowboys as much as he did the Eagles……I’d probably not like him either).
However, dude is a 3 time Super Bowl, Hall of Fame wide receiver. For Philly fans to boo him when he was hurt………well, lets just say that if Andy Reid’s FAT A$$ were to have a heart attack on the sidelines at the new Cowboys Stadium………..I sure hope that Dallas fans laugh their A$$E$ off.
Win a Super Bow first….JUST ONE……..then maybe, just maybe, you losers can talk about some class. Until then…….you can kiss the 5 time Super Bowl winning A$$ES of my Dallas Cowboys.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:14 pm
Mr. Obvious-How old are you? 12? Ugly? I spent 10 months in Georgia, women there are no more hotter than anywhere else except maybe New Jersey. They often settle for those overall wearing, three toothed, Caterpillar hat wearing, rednecks named Jethro or Mr. Obvious.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:14 pm
One thing I will say about Philly fans and the Philly media: They would have never let Bobby Cox get away with his “uh, we hit the ball right at them…….or……..they hit good pitches” crap that the Atlanta media routinely laps up.
Philly fans and the Philly media will rip their players, coaches and management if it is warranted. I’ve looked at this blog and VERY LITTLE lip service has been given to the fact that 2 HUGE ERRORS in the 5th inning (along with our pathetic offense with runners in scoring position)…….cost us another game.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:17 pm
Michael in Dumbwoody-14 Division Titles, 1 World Series? So the Braves choked 13 out of 14 times unless you want to count this year which makes 14 out of 15.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:18 pm
Christopher Chance-Baseball blog moron. Atlanta fans brought up Irvin.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:19 pm
Christopher Chance-Errors which mean they are not as good as you thought. If they were they wouldn’t have committed the errors, right?
ss
September 21st, 2010
4:20 pm
Hey phillies 10,
The comment about the economic unemployment rate is pretty sad if your going to stoop to that low. You sound like you take pride in something that is a pretty serious issue.
Patrick Kane just scored again in the Wachovia Center again in OT!
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:20 pm
At what point does Lord Bobby’s coaching ability get questioned? We’ve committed 50 MORE ERRORS than San Diego (114-64). Of all the other play-off teams, the team closest to us is Colorado (114-85). That means that we have committed at least 29 more errors than every play-off contender.
Talk about a drop off. Are our players THAT FREAKING BAD that there is such a discrepancy in defense (not to mention some of the friendly non-errors that were scored hits by home town official scores)? Or are our guys simply not being coached properly on how to stay focused and play proper defense?
Yet, these guys continue to go out there and make critical error after critical. Brian McCann continues to make bad throws to second. Jason Heyward, has made a number of very lazy errors in right field. You’re talking about 2 of our best players not showing improvement as the season is nearing an end.
I blame all this on Lord Bobby’s player’s manager philosophy. The numbers dont lie. How can a play-off contender have the 3 worst defense in the National League?
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:22 pm
TTTT-Thumbody Thed Thats Thupid-”If your fans are so great and dedicated why was one of the Phils players complaining in your newspaper after that 9th inning comback the other day vs the Gnats, that so many fans had already left? At least Braves fans are smart enough to know better than that. Heck, probably half of our wins have come in the last 3 innings! Philly Phans are Phickle!”
So where are you the other 6 innings?
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:24 pm
Phillies’10………….MORON, you were the only who JUSTIFIED Philly fans booing Irvin when he was hurt.
Again, when Andy Reid’s drug dealing, pill popping, burglarizing dope fiend sons die of an overdose, get murdered in a drug deal gone bad or get sent to prison for 20 years …….I’ll be sure to laugh at you and your sad excuse of a professional football franchise.
braveschick
September 21st, 2010
4:24 pm
Chief Hittabatta – Um, because we didn’t decide to rework our rotation like they did? And we don’t really have a choice because of all the injuries.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:25 pm
ss-Braves just choked again (Insert any year).
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:28 pm
Phillies’10………….dude, I’m not blaming our bad defense on the players. I’m blaming it on the lack of coaching that they get from Bobby Cox.
Many so-called Atlanta Braves fans feel that Lord Bobby is a great manager because he’s a player’s manager. I say that being a player’s manager is no different than being a parent who is more concerned with their children liking them…..then they are with raising and teaching their children how to be responsible, productive kids.
Lord Bobby is like a parent who gets called in to a parent-teacher conference because little Johnny is cutting up in class. However when meeting with the teacher, the parent blames the teachers for unfairly getting on little Johnny.
Lord Bobby is no different. He blames everyone else and makes excuses for the failures of his players (not to mention avoiding non-questions about his lack of managing and coaching).
mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache
September 21st, 2010
4:28 pm
@PHILLIES10, That has to be the most retarded thing said on this blog, infact everyone here is a little dumber for that beng said. Slavery was over a hundred years ago. Slavery vs booing santa? Nice comeback, loser!Brothery love? Nice slogan, is that because there are no women up there so you have to warm up to your brother?
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:28 pm
Christopher Chance- F**KING IDIOT. Go back and read the blog. One of your fans brought it up along with the old and tired Santa Claus argument. Are you a Braves and Cowboys fan together? If so that should qualify you for SSI benefits because you are developmentally disabled. Have your mom look into that for you.
P.S. I don’t care about Reid and his sons, but apparently you have some type of love for Irvin.
Some of you people are WAAAY too uptight
September 21st, 2010
4:29 pm
Anybody who gets really bent out of shape about a fan running onto the field is somebody I would not want to be friends with.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:31 pm
mark bradley’s 70’s fro and mustache-How do you figure? THAT WAS THE POINT. I can see you’re still sensitive about the issue though. How much did your family lose on that one? Don’t you have a pointy hat meeting to get too tonight?
scottbravesfan
September 21st, 2010
4:38 pm
I would hope the Phillies could outdraw the Braves. For one it’s a bigger market and two you guys have been to two straight World Series. Doing some digging(baseballreference.com) I found that when the Braves went to two straight world series in 1991 and 1992, the Braves averaged in 1993 close to 50,000 fans a game and sold out every game and drew a national league record 3.9 million fans. So you guys in Philly have some work to do.
mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache
September 21st, 2010
4:39 pm
You are tastless and have no crass. Why would anyone on here bring up slavery? Dont you have a pole to smoke? PHILLIES10. How many did I lose? My family is from New York. Your a loser.
scottbravesfan
September 21st, 2010
4:40 pm
And all the fans that are upset because a fan ran out on the field, chill the hell out. It was funny and will become legend. It’s not like the guy had a knife or a gun he was just some kid who wanted 15 minutes of fame. It was funny.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:40 pm
braveschick……..can you really blame Philly for adjusting their rotation for the 3 games with us? These are the games that you WANT TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS and have your best in there. These are the only games that you do not have to scoreboard watch or rely on help from other teams…….because you can take care of business yourself.
Again, I blame Bobby Cox for this. How can you not have Tim Hudson or even (gasp) Derek Lowe (whose pitched well against Philly in his career) pitch in this series? The Phillies are definitely getting their money’s worth with having their best pitchers on the mound.
Think about it, even before Jurrjens got hurt……..we were scheduled to have slightly more than $1 mil in salary (Jurrjens, Hanson and 1/3 of a season salary of Mike Minor, who was in the minors for most of the season) facing a combined $25 mil (Halladay $15.75, Oswalt’s approximate $2.5 mil, which is Philly’s prorated potion, including the part Houston agreed to pay when the trade was made, and Hamels’ $6.5 mil) in starting pitching.
Meanwhile we left $24 mil (Lowe $15 mil, Hudson $9 mil) worth on the sidelines, so they could open the weekend series against the Nationals.
Pathetic.
mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache
September 21st, 2010
4:42 pm
@PHILLIES10, I guess evolution wasnt a strong point in your family. Are you the only one left? You havent found out why antifreeze is so sweet?
scottbravesfan
September 21st, 2010
4:43 pm
Phillies 10, you are a Philly fan and you want to talk about choking? Come on now. The Phillies are the losingest franchise in pro sports history and they choked in the playoffs in 2007 against the Rockies. And last year got destroyed by the Yankees. And shall we talk about the Eagles and all of the NFC championship games you guys have lost? How about the Flyers blowing it in the Stanley Cup? Again. And the Sixers, well obviously no one cares about the NBA so screw all of those teams.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:44 pm
mark bradley’s 70’s fro and mustache- WOW!! Look how upset you got. Too funny. SENSITIVE.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:45 pm
scottbravesfan-Yea, well I wasn’t bragging about 14 division titles and 1 WS win, now was I?
scottbravesfan
September 21st, 2010
4:45 pm
Chris Change,
You know Bobby, doesn’t want to rock the boat. Let’s keep a slumping Prado in the 3 hole as well while Heyward continues to be the team’s best hitter. Hell move McCann up to the 3 hole at least he has some power. I’m tired of watching Prado hit into double plays and then slam his helmet down in anger. I like Prado but he is not a 3 hole hitter.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:45 pm
Phillies’10……I have love for the fact that Irvin helped us win 3 of our 5 Super Bowls.
By the way, I grew up in Arkansas. I was 10 years old back in 1982 when I started getting into sports. Remember, back in those days, cable tv didnt show a lot of sports. The only baseball I was able to see was the NBC Game of the Week..as well as the Braves on TBS.
As far as football is concerned, since there are no pro teams in Arkansas, CBS would show Dallas games on Sunday’s in our market. That’s how I became a fan of the Braves and Cowboys.
The ironic thing is that in the last part of the 80’s, I was a suffering Cowboys and Braves fan. However, in 1991, both teams started to turn it around. In 1995, both the Braves and Cowboys won Championships.
Bobby Cox
September 21st, 2010
4:47 pm
Terribly written sentence… “security forces arrived and forced Red Man back left but started slipping”
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:48 pm
Christopher Chance- Funny part is I liked Aikman, Newtown, Haley, and Emmit Smith, but I am sorry Irvin is a scumbag.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:49 pm
scottbravesfan………I’ve said this all along: Lord Bobby is more concerned with the “legacy” of his player’s manager image…..than he is with doing what it takes to win.
I want a manager who will MANAGE this team……..and TEACH these guys how to run the bases, play defense, and play fundamental baseball.
The reason why we are winning is because of our starting pitching and strong bullpen…..not because of anything Bobby Cox has done. In fact, I feel that he’s done a number of things to hold our offense and defense back.
scottbravesfan
September 21st, 2010
4:49 pm
Phillie 10,
Trust me I’m one of those who thinks they should take down the division title banners at Turner Field. If you don’t win the whole thing doesn’t mean a thing to me. And the comment about the Flyers I actually grew up rooting for them because I had no hockey team here and so I’m used to them choking as well. But ripping on the Braves for choking when Philly is known for it too is counterproductive.
ss
September 21st, 2010
4:49 pm
I follow the braves phillies 10 but im a fan of a team you didnt beat last fall. I think you know which team that might be.
ss
September 21st, 2010
4:50 pm
Doc Halladay probally wont give up no more than 2 runs. Minor better step up.
PHILLY FAN
September 21st, 2010
4:51 pm
Christopher Chance, your a FRAUD….You from GA and your a cowbows fan…And by the way, You talk to much…..DEUCH BAG !
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:51 pm
Phillies’10……….how is Irvin a scumbag?
I can only imagine what you think of Michael Vick or Jason Werth (after all, isnt banging your teammate’s wife qualification for being a scumbag?). How did you feel about Allen Iverson and Charles Barkley when they played for Philly?
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:51 pm
1. Bye, to the real Braves fans (this includes you too, Christopher Chance)
2. Screw all of you bandwagoners that cannot support your own team in a pennant race, but want to talk trash. This does NOT include those i SAID bye to in #1.
3. Magic # 8
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:52 pm
ss-So you’re a front runner. Nice.
scottbravesfan
September 21st, 2010
4:53 pm
Yeah they show the Cowboys all over the country pretty much every game. And the TBS thing is why there are so many Braves fans across the country. If you grew up in the 80s and didn’t live close to a city with a team you wouldn’t get any games except the Braves and TBS and the Cubs on WGN, although WGN is not as widely distributed as TBS is. I mean everyone who has cable and had it back then got TBS. That’s why Citi Field this weekend was packed with Braves fans and when the Braves go to places like Texas there are always a lot of fans too.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
4:53 pm
PHILLY FAN………dude, I can assure you I’m not from Atlanta. I grew up in Arkansas and haved lived in the Bay Area (California) since the mid-90’s.
ss
September 21st, 2010
4:53 pm
I grew up in nj you knucklehead. The yankees were the first time i became aware of, and if you want to bad mouth me for that, than thats pretty pathetic.
Ill give your fans credit for booing sarah palin, but thats pretty much it.
scottbravesfan
September 21st, 2010
4:54 pm
Philly 10,
Have you ever been to Atlanta? Half the city is transplanted New Yorkers. It sucks.
MWC
September 21st, 2010
4:54 pm
There is NOTHING else to do in Philly, thats why.
give it up Phillies 10, your getting your arse handed to ya.
ss
September 21st, 2010
4:55 pm
I hope Mcnabb lights up that dumb team in philly when the skins go up there because you guys will have a hard time dealing with that when the combo of your two qbs wont beat them.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:55 pm
Christopher Chance- Iverson and Vick are both a POS and I hate them both. At least, Iverson doesn’t hide what he is. I love Barkley and he did nothing like Irvin has.. Werth story is BS and even if he did sleep with Utley’s wife, (untrue according to just about every reporter, player, and source up here)he didn’t do anything illegal. Werth is a nice player, but he’s a head case. Irvin is a scumbag. Out!!
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:56 pm
ss-Neither is winning the SB so who cares. Trade wasn’t about this season.
ss
September 21st, 2010
4:56 pm
talking to a philly fan is like dealing with a little kid…. you never win!
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:57 pm
ss-NJ. That explains alot.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
4:57 pm
It’s been fun.
ss
September 21st, 2010
4:59 pm
Thats a bunch of crap phillies….. so your fans accept a 500 season? What does going to the sb have to do with anything two games into the season? I know you guys booed McNabb the day he got there, but quite frankly pleasing the philly fan base is exactly dealing with the mets.
scottbravesfan
September 21st, 2010
4:59 pm
I agree Bobby Cox has mad some awful decisions in the post season throughout the years. He’s good at handling players, with egos and things like that, but not good at all about in game decisions.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
5:00 pm
Phillies’10………you havent mentioned why you feel that Michael Irvin is a scumbag.
While sleeping with another man’s wife isnt illegal (well, except if you live in a Muslim nation)…..it is a pretty scumbag thing to do, ESPECIALLY your own teammate’s wife.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
5:01 pm
scottbravesfan………..what did you think of my 4:40pm post?
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
5:03 pm
scottbravesfan………Bobby Cox also isnt a good at coaching and teaching his players. I mean, how can a play-off caliber team have 29 more errors than any of the other teams in the play-off chase? Remember San Diego, whose supposed to be offensively challenged at times as well……….has 50 less errors than we do.
ss
September 21st, 2010
5:03 pm
phillies,
you obviously take pride where you from, which is fine. If you want to have a reasonable convo, than go head, but your not capable of doing that.
Im proud where im from, and im sure you are as well. Patrick Kane just scored again! hahaha
QuitChukkinMyWood!
September 21st, 2010
5:12 pm
I miss the 70s fro and mustache pic Mark.
ss
September 21st, 2010
5:14 pm
bobby cox has shown zero fire the whole month. A new voice next year might be a great bouns to this team. Cox is a great skipper, but i think hes calling it a career at the right time.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
5:33 pm
ss………actually, it would have been better if Bobby Cox had called it a career after last year (or better yet after we went out with a whimper after the 2005 play-offs).
I just hope that our next manager is someone who will be more concerned with winning, then having his players like him.
Players may not like Bobby Valentine as a manager……however in all the years he managed the Mets….NOT ONCE did he ever have a chance to manage a team that was better than the Braves. So Mark Bradley’s “what has Valentine every won” comeback is pretty invalid and meaningless.
With that said, he did manage to take a Wild Card team to the 2000 World Series. I believe that if Valentine had managed the Braves…..we’d have more than 1 World Series to show for those 14 division titles.
A better question would be this: Would Bobby Cox have won any World Series managing the Mets teams that Valentine had to manage? Also, how do you think the New York press would have handled Lord Bobby’s player’s manager philosophy?
ss
September 21st, 2010
5:41 pm
christopher chance,
You asked some good questions.
1. Bobby Valentine is nuts, but the only thing i had a problem with him was he got tossed from a game the year of the subway series and came back dressed up in a team shirt and a stache and glasses. You get thrown out, just dont come back.
He is a compeitive and firery manager, which some teams need, and some dont. The mets teams he had during their run when they were actually competitive. (unlike now) Their starting pitching could hange with anyone at that time, but their lineup from what i reacall didnt have that real scary hitter like the phillies lineup does now.
2. The NY press would basically rip him apart. They did it to the yankees last year, the jets during camp and their week 1 loss. The papers up there are honest, but sometimes its a little too extreme. However, the headlines they came up with for news stories about their teams do have funnny titles to them.
ss
September 21st, 2010
5:42 pm
C.Chance,
Who do you feel is a reasonable option to manage this team next year?
PHILLY FAN
September 21st, 2010
5:43 pm
Christopher Chance & SS,
That’s what i said…Cowboys fan and you don’t live in TX…..Your a FRAUD…And your boy SS….Please guys, Only REAL homegrown fans allowed on this sight….grew up in GA or PA….Have you guys even been to the cities you cheer for ? PLEASE….The special word for the both of you today is, FRAUD !!!!!
Pierce
September 21st, 2010
5:43 pm
the braves infamous 14 division streak would have ended at 3 if it was for the strike shortened season in 94′
ss
September 21st, 2010
5:53 pm
Philly fan back for game 2 nice!
I lived in the northeast long enough to know your fan base is not that bright.
Pierce,
The 94 expos would eve won the divison that year.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
5:56 pm
PHILLY FAN…………….Hey MORON! How many times do I have to tell you? I grew up in ARKANSAS. ARKANSAS DOES NOT HAVE ANY PROFESSIONAL TEAMS.
When I was ten, I became interested in sports. So if you cant understand how a kid my age became a Cowboys AND Braves fan (particularly when I explained it clearly in a previous post)……then you are a true MORON!
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
5:59 pm
ss………….While the Expos had a 6 12 game lead in mid-August when the strike occurred….given the Braves history at the time of mounting comebacks, it was not a given that the Expos would have won the division.
That 1994 Braves team was loaded (remember, we ended up winning the World Series the next year).
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
6:00 pm
I meant, 6 1/2 game lead in the previous post, not “6 12 game lead”.
ss
September 21st, 2010
6:01 pm
They did beat a good cleveleand team the next year. Who knows, that expos team had a lot of great ball players on it, but that strike basically said the end of their team in that area, but hockey will always rain king in canada.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
6:08 pm
ss………….we’ll never know what would have happened the final 6 weeks of the 1994 strike shortened season. I was just say that it wasnt a foregone conclusion that the Expos would have won the division….given the Braves history of comebacks since 1991.
That is why I was totally not surprised when the Phillies ran the Braves down this year. Since 2007, they’ve had a history of playing GREAT baseball the last part of the season….with basically the same core of players (as well as a couple of added parts like Halladay and Oswalt).
I also said weeks ago that this Braves team had no history of seriously competing for a division title since 2005. We had to prove that we could hold off the Phillies……..which ultimately we didnt. We went from being up 7 games to currently down 4 (with the prospect of it being 6 by late tomorrow night).
A potential 13 game swing in less than 2 months does not bode well for us.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
6:09 pm
….ss………….we’ll never know what would have happened the final 6 weeks of the 1994 strike shortened season. I was just say that it wasnt a foregone conclusion that the Expos would have won the division….given the Braves history of comebacks since 1991.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
6:10 pm
,,,I was totally not surprised when the Phillies ran the Braves down this year. Since 2007, they’ve had a history of playing GREAT baseball the last part of the season….with basically the same core of players (as well as a couple of added parts like Halladay and Oswalt).
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
6:10 pm
,.,.I also said weeks ago that this Braves team had no history of seriously competing for a division title since 2005. We had to prove that we could hold off the Phillies……..which ultimately we didnt. We went from being up 7 games to currently down 4 (with the prospect of it being 6 by late tomorrow night).
A potential 13 game swing in less than 2 months does not bode well for us.
ss
September 21st, 2010
6:11 pm
I know what your saying chance, which is the mindest of anything can happen
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
6:12 pm
This Braves team has no history of seriously competing for a division title since 2005. We had to prove that we could hold off the Phillies……..which ultimately we didnt. We went from being up 7 games to currently down 4.
Eleven game swing in less than 2 months speaks volumes.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
6:13 pm
ss…………theoretically, “anything” can happen.
However, realistically, not just “anything” can happen. Logic and reality, as well as previous history…..should be factors when one makes “anything can happen” statements.
PHILLY FAN
September 21st, 2010
6:25 pm
Christopher Chance,
You sound like a Dr.Phil tv show with your life history…Your a FRAUD ! And SS, Please dude, Its so nice to hear you FRAUDS talk about next year because you both know its OVER…Maybe you guys should swap email address…sounds like you both hit it off….Get the brooms read…Phil’s sweep….
Maximus Decimus Meridius
September 21st, 2010
6:45 pm
Are You Not Entertained ??
Joe Mama
September 21st, 2010
6:59 pm
I think it’s funny. I think more of these stunts should happen. Funny to me how people don’t have a sense of humor and also think this is funny.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
7:37 pm
Another example of a non-error by the Braves defense, was the non catch by Prado on that foul pop-up by Ibanez there. Extending opponents at-bats pushes up the pitch count……as well as potentially giving the other team extra outs.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
7:42 pm
Mike Minor has a hard time getting the opposing pitcher out. If I’m correct, didnt he give up a homer to Chris Carpenter?
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
7:45 pm
Who are teaches these guys the fundamentals of the game? Mike Minor does not look back the runner at second on three straight pitches.,..allowing Valdez to just steal third standing up.
Meanwhile, Brian McCann makes another bad throw trying to pick the runner off first……..only to be saved by a great scoop by Derek Lee (do any of you Troy Glaus “jock sniffers” really think that Glaus could have scooped up that bad throw by McCann?).
We’re just lucky that Minor got out of the inning without any damage being done. However, against a team like the Phillies, how much longer can we rely on luck to bail us out?
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
7:53 pm
What was Minor thinking there? Instead of bunting, he swings away and hits into a double play?
I’m confused……what’s the object of this game? To score runs? Or to see how many fundamental errors we can make tonight?
I am totally baffled as to how many of you on here can continue to defend Bobby Cox and say that he’s a great manager. Time after time after time………our team has shown that we’re fundamentally challenged.
The reason why we’re in contention is because of our pitching. Good pitching can pitch around mistakes……….sometimes.
However, I wouldnt give Lord Bobby credit for our good pitching.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
7:54 pm
….What was Minor thinking there? Instead of bunting, he swings away and hits into a double play?
I’m confused……what’s the object of this game? To score runs? Or to see how many fundamental errors we can make tonight?
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:07 pm
I wonder if Charlie Manuel is going to use the old “we hit them right at them” excuse tonight……..if the Phillies some how lose this game?
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:08 pm
Ballgame.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:13 pm
As I said earlier, Tim Hudson and Derek Lowe (our combined $24 mil pitchers, as well as the only two starting pitchers we have who have play-off experience)………are not pitching in this series.
Yet, Bobby Cox is a “great manager”, lol.
I’m curious, why didnt Charlie Manuel let Kyle Kendrick and Joe Blanton pitch in this series? Because he wanted to use his HORSES to put the nail in the coffin when it comes to winning the division.
WTF was Lord Bobby thinking by not setting the rotation up so Hudson and Lowe could pitch in this series?
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:15 pm
Mr. Bradley………….why dont you ask Lord Bobby why he didnt set the rotation up like Manuel did with the Phillies?
That is, if you’re not afraid of offending or questioning the wisdom of Lord Bobby.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:16 pm
Jesus, lol. Prado has turned into Chipper Jones at third base.
Instead of an easy double play (this is the Majors, that play should have been made)…..it’s bases loaded and 1 out.
Mark Bradley
September 21st, 2010
8:17 pm
There’s no way that was a DP. Ball wasn’t hit hard enough.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:21 pm
Frank Wren (the real Frank Wren)………if you’re reading this (or if someone who knows you is reading this)……..PLEASE hire a manager next season who care more about WINNING, then about trying to keep the players liking him.
We need a manager who will teach our guys to play some defense. We need a manager who will not be worried about “offending” our players when it’s obvious that they either need to be benched OR the rotation needs to be adjusted for a big series.
We need to learn how to play fundamental baseball……..as well as how to bunt and run ourselves out of innings.
PLEASE Frank Wren….hire a real manager…….not a cheerleader.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:24 pm
Mark Bradley…………dude, I’m not sure what game you’re watching….but if Prado fields that ball, all he has to do is take one step to step on the 3rd base bag…and throw to first. It was a tailor made double play.
Mark Bradley
September 21st, 2010
8:25 pm
Chipper.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:28 pm
Chipper?
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:28 pm
Here’s a chilling stat: In 13 innings of play so far this series………the Braves have grounded into 4 double plays, made 3 errors………while only scoring 1 run.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:37 pm
Mr. Bradley………One of the reasons why I’m so critical, especially of Bobby Cox, is because despite our lack of a true power hitter (Lee hasnt hit the homers in bunches so far that we’ve expected)……with proper coaching, this team could be a very dangerous team in the play-offs.
However, we never hit and run…cant bunt…cant field……..all signs of poor coaching. We have the pitching to keep games close in the play-offs. However, we are being killed in the other parts of the game right now.
I so much want to see the Braves win……..and see the potential for us to win games against good teams. However, we simply cannot afford to make avoidable mistakes.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:48 pm
Even though Hinske ended up not hitting into a double play…with the way our offense has been going…..I’d been happy with a double play…as long as the run scored.
3-1 Phillies……at least Heyward is now the tying run.
Mark Bradley
September 21st, 2010
8:49 pm
Jason strikes out watching. Looked like a strike
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:54 pm
Great Braves defense in action once again. 4th error in 1 1/2 games of this series.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
8:54 pm
Mark Bradley…………I was trying to be optimistic and trying to look at the bright side with Heyward coming to the plate.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:03 pm
Joe Simpson beat me to the punch. That is two nights in a row that McCann JUST MISSED hitting it out.
This is a critical inning. Runners on 2nd and 3rd and 0 outs.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:04 pm
Unbelieveable. What was McCann thinking? He is as slow as molasses.
Man, lol. Talk about running ourselves out of an inning.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:10 pm
…I just dont understand. Whose teaching these guys to run the bases? Whose teaching these guys to play defense?
McCann hits great for a catcher. However he cant run, nor throw to save his life………nor can he resist using that lazy back handed stab attempt when it comes to blocking wild pitches.
Again, why doesnt any of our coaches sit him down and teach him how to play some freaking baseball? One would think that a 4 time All-Star would have the mental capacity to learn how to play fundamental baseball.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
9:15 pm
Why Irvin is a scumbag:
1996 arrest
In March 1996, Irvin was arrested on charges of cocaine possession at a hotel party celebrating his 30th birthday. After numerous court appearances amid a national media circus, which featured Irvin showing up to court in a full-length mink coat, he pled no contest to the charges and was sentenced to community service, ordered to pay a $10,000 fine, and put on 4-years probation. When drug-tested for illicit drugs, he tested negative. But the NFL suspended Irvin for the first five games of the 1996 season.
In Irvin’s 1996 absence, the Cowboys struggled out of the gate and never recovered. Upon his return from suspension, Irvin tallied 962 receiving yards in only 11 games.
False sexual assault allegation
Irvin sustained further damage to his reputation in 1996 when controversy reared its head again as the Cowboys prepared to play the Carolina Panthers for their NFC Divisional Playoff game. Media reports stated that Irvin and teammate Erik Williams had sexually assaulted a Dallas woman, Nina Shahravan, and, with a gun to her head, videotaped the interaction.
Despite Williams’ and Irvin’s denials of the allegations, the story overshadowed the game, which the Cowboys lost. The accuser was later proven to have fabricated the entire incident. She recanted her story, pled guilty to perjury and filing a false police report and was sentenced to 90 days in prison and a fine.
In the first quarter of the playoff game with Carolina, with Shahravan’s allegations under active investigation by Dallas police, Irvin suffered a broken collarbone, ending his 1996 season.
1998 alleged assault
In 1998 Irvin was alleged to be involved in a bizarre incident during training camp when he allegedly inflicted a two-inch cut in the neck of Dallas guard Everett McIver while some team members were getting haircuts.[8] Whether it was battery or accidental McIver did not press charges, and rumors swirled that Irvin brokered a six-figure settlement with McIver to drop the matter. Accounts of this incident after the alleged settlement became difficult to find or research in the local Dallas press.[9][10]
Arrests since retirement
A year following his retirement from the NFL, Irvin again was arrested on drug possession charges.[11] In this case, Irvin was in a Dallas apartment with an unrelated woman. Neither answered the door when police drug task force agents arrived with a search warrant. Police entered the apartment forcibly, finding drugs. Irvin and the female were placed under arrest, though charges against Irvin were later dropped.
The promises of a new lifestyle in broadcasting appeared to be short-lived, with Irvin again arrested. In this instance Irvin was pulled over in Plano, Texas, for speeding on November 25, 2005. Irvin was arrested on an outstanding warrant on an unpaid speeding ticket in Irving, Texas, but was also cited for misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia after police searched his car and found the crack pipe, and plastic bags with marijuana residue.[12] Irvin was arrested for a Class C misdemeanor. He was later released on bond, with ESPN spokesman Josh Krulewitz saying only that: “We are reviewing the facts of the situation and have no comment at this time.”
Two days after his arrest, Irvin appeared on ESPN’s “Sunday NFL Countdown”, as scheduled, on November 27, 2005. In his on-the-air comments that evening, he stated that he had taken the drug paraphernalia away from a longtime friend who was battling a drug addiction. Irvin told the Associated Press he was trying to help someone close to him get off drugs and cares more about that than his chances of being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The next day Irvin said the pipe was in fact his brother’s and he (Irvin) was going to throw it out but had forgotten to do so.
On December 1, 2005, however, ESPN suspended Irvin for the Sunday and Monday night Countdown shows on December 4 and December 5, 2005.[13] He returned to both shows with no mention or consequence of the past incident.
Another sexual assault allegation
On July 4, 2007 Irvin was accused of sexual assault while he was at the Seminole Hard Rock Casino in Ft. Lauderdale. Charges were never filed, but a civil suit was filed against him in 2010.[14]
Victim of alleged carjacking attempt
Irvin claims that he was a victim of a possible carjacking attempt while stopped at a light in Dallas on January 12, 2009. He filed a police report claiming that two men flashed a gun at him, but eventually drove away after commenting that they were Cowboys fans.[15] Dallas police suspended their investigation two weeks later, stating that Irvin had not cooperated in the investigation and that without more information from him, they could not proceed.[16]
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:18 pm
Mr. Bradley…..has anyone ever considered why they Braves players keep making sillly and dumb errors, both in the field and on the bases (as well as not bunting)?
I feel that if players were subject to public criticism (like they are in most “real” sports towns with a “free” press that is “free” to hold the players and management accountable)…..then maybe they will feel “pressure” to do their jobs properly.
Instead, Bobby Cox shields his players from criticism. With no fear of criticism or being held accountable…..there is little incentive to correct one’s mistakes or change.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:19 pm
Meanwhile…..very well played by Matt Diaz on the ball hit by Werth.
It just shows that even a blind squirrel gets an acorn every now and then.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:20 pm
We simply cannot get finish hitters off in critical situations.
Just like that, back to a 3 run deficit.
ss
September 21st, 2010
9:30 pm
scott boras will represent werth……. Freeman hit a shot…… if boras will rep werth the phillies probally wont re sign him
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:40 pm
LOL! McCann just missed that strike. Then he goes to the mound to make it look like he was “crossed up” on that pitch.
However, on the replay, he doesnt flinch like a catcher normally does when he’s crossed up. He just closed his glove too early and let a perfect strike go to for a passed ball.
Meanwhile, Kimbrel gets out of the inning with no damage.
Also, Congrats to Freddie Freeman for hitting a monster home run off Halladay for his first career homer.
With 2 innings left, it’s time we show some of that magic comeback heroics that we’ve come to rely on.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:42 pm
ss………..if Werth was willing to play center field (something he has done with the Phillies on occassion)….I would love to see the Braves make a go at trying to sign him.
He has speed (can steal bases as well as run balls down in the outfield) hits with power from the right side of the plate……..and has a strong arm (which is sorely needed in center).
Sure, it will take some series cash to sign him. However he would be great in our line-up.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:46 pm
3 double plays last night….3 tonight.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
9:49 pm
Cox knows that we’re hitting into double plays…..why not start a runner? Heyward is the perfect guy to hit and run with. Even if the hitter misses, he’s still fast enough to steal a base.
Then again, maybe Lord Bobby knows that since he hasnt bothered teaching these guys how to run the bases…..there is no sense in having them hit and run.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
10:01 pm
The way that Derek Lee is heating up…….we should still be in good shape for the Wild Card.
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
10:08 pm
Out with a whimper. 5 games out of first. It’s either the Wild Card or bust.
Phillies'10
September 21st, 2010
10:14 pm
Magic #6, Braves fans!!
Christopher Chance
September 21st, 2010
11:38 pm
Brian McCann got dressed and had left for the hotel room before the locker room was open to reporters?
Look, like it or not, he’s basically our team leader. When you mess up, you face the music. Given the softball type questions that the Atlanta media usually ask Braves players and coaches………McCann must have really been in a mood to run if he didnt want to deal with the softball Atlanta media, lol.
That’s why I have a lot of respect for Luis Castillo of the Mets. Last year, when he dropped that game ending pop-up against the Yankees…he stood by his locker and LIKE A MAN, answered every question from the relentless New York media. Afterward, the press was actually sympathetic towards Castillo because he took their barrage of questions LIKE A MAN. He didnt run away like McCann did.
Regardless, our team is sorely lacking leadership. I’m sick and tired of the “rah, rah, let’s stay a happy clubhouse” CRAP that I’ve been hearing all year. It’s put up or shut up time. We need leaders to step up and get on these MOFOS and tell them to FOCUS THE FCUK UP AND START PLAYING SOME FUNDAMENTAL BASEBALL!
We gave away 2 winnable games. Bad defense, bad base running, lack of clutch hitting, lack of execution (not bunting or hit and running).
Tomorrow’s game will decide if we have any chance at all of winning the division. If we win, we’ll be 4 out (meaning that we only have to make up one game in the next six games before the final 3 in Atlanta against Philly). However if we lose, then we’ll have to make up 3 games (meaning that we’ll have to go 6-0 AND hope that Philly goes, at best, 3-3 in their next 6 games) for the 3 games in Atlanta to mean anything as far as the division is concerned.
Backs up against the wall. Are we going to play like like we want a shot at the division tomorrow? Or are we just going to lay down tomorrow and regroup against the Nationals and Marlins and shoot for the Wild Card?
Sid
September 22nd, 2010
6:00 pm
I didn’t say Redman was Cy Young, my point being that Redman was a major league pitcher and maybe wasn’t the best but far from the worst. He has reason to be satisfied with his career and share his story with his grandchildren. People who slam others may not have that great of a story to tell.
Big D
September 26th, 2010
12:01 am
“close proximity”???? UGH!