The debate begins: Does Boise belong in BCS title game?

We can argue. We will argue. Heck, we’re arguing already. But the way has been cleared for Boise State to play for the BCS title.

The Broncos did what they needed to do to make their case. They traveled cross-country and beat a good Virginia Tech team on a neutral field that wasn’t all that neutral. They came from behind to win at the end, and now the burden of proof is on the BCS — the voters in the two human polls and the computers — to keep Boise out of Glendale, Ariz.

We’re going to hear about strength of schedule. We’re going to hear that Boise has only one real chance to lose — against Oregon State on Sept. 25 — the rest of the way. But an undefeated Boise would be awfully hard to deny no matter what else happens anywhere else in college football. And if a place in the title game comes down to an once-beaten Alabama or a once-beaten Iowa against a never-beaten-for-two-years Boise … well, that’s the decision the BCS dreads.

Because if Boise is the choice then a lot of BCS-level programs will scream, “Put them in our league(s) and have them play our schedule and see how long they stay undefeated.” But if Boise isn’t the choice, the BCS knows full well what’s coming.

A full-blown Congressional investigation. Impassioned demands for a playoff grid from everyone who loves an underdog. (And really, who doesn’t love an underdog?) Perhaps even the end of the BCS as we know it, which would be an altogether good thing for everyone except the Broncos.

Say what you will about Boise State and its blue field and its modest conference. But there’s nothing modest about what the Broncos did Monday night in our nation’s capital. A ton of football remains to be played in 2010, but no single game stands to cast the giant shadow of this Boise victory. And if you’re asking me if I think an undefeated Boise State deserves a shot at the BCS title, the answer is …

Absolutely.

265 comments Add your comment

wawel78

September 7th, 2010
12:00 am

russ gata

September 7th, 2010
12:01 am

They play you they beat you. FSU and Miami have bookshelves of cupcake schedule championships.

Mark Bradley SUCKS

September 7th, 2010
12:04 am

Mark Bradley SUCKS

September 7th, 2010
12:04 am

Mark Bradley SUCKS

September 7th, 2010
12:05 am

Mark Bradley SUCKS

September 7th, 2010
12:05 am

Mark Bradley SUCKS

September 7th, 2010
12:06 am

Ted Kohn

September 7th, 2010
12:06 am

I think it depends a ton on what Va Tech does the rest of the way. If Va Tech doesn’t win at least 9, forget about it.

archangeladidas

September 7th, 2010
12:07 am

Yes, if you want a playoff system in place…let Boise win a championship or two. I guarantee the university presidents put one in place quick.

outkasted

September 7th, 2010
12:07 am

they will need to blow out everybody in their conference and hope oregon st and va tech r good at the end…. strength of schedule will do them in when the computer adds things up but i still say nope b/c they would have only beaten 2 or 3 respectable teams…….10-4 can’t wait for saturday all chores will be done this friday…………

Mark Bradley SUCKS

September 7th, 2010
12:07 am

Tech has a better chance at representation in the BCS…. and they have nothing.

Engy

September 7th, 2010
12:14 am

Boise State won 2 BCS bowls the past 2 seasons and went 14-0 with a decisive win against Oregon (the Pac-10 champions) last season. They beat a pre-season 10 this season and if they run the table, how can anybody deny them a shot to win it all?

Everybody loves a Cinderella story. Time to give them a chance to make a Cinderella finish.

tckr83

September 7th, 2010
12:14 am

No, this was their “non-conference/conference” championship until the BCS… People complain about many of the D-1 powerhouse programs weak OOC schedules… look at Boise’s conference schedule and tell me who has a weaker schedule. It’s a cakewalk to the end of the season for the Broncos from here on out and they just ruined ALOT of teams chances at the BCS tonight after the first game of the season… lame.

sure...

September 7th, 2010
12:15 am

Go ahead, let them play in the BCS title game…they’ll get hammered & we’ll finally put an end to this nonsense! Any decent team can prepare for 1 big game. B State has only 1 game left now…O State.

Could u imagine B State playing Bama or Texas?

It took V Tech not waking up until the 2nd quarter & they still had to get some breaks to win.

Unbelievable!

BugKiller

September 7th, 2010
12:17 am

From a retweet from a @RealMikeSilver follower:

taniaganguli If a 3rd-ranked Florida (or any “major” program) needs a 2-minute drill to beat the No. 10 team, does brent musburger call them courageous?

NO. NO. And NO.

Mark, this team deserves NOTHING.

If this were a playoff, then fine, let them in.

But when there’s ONLY TWO SPOTS… then they NEVER deserve one of the spots.

Because they DON’T play in the SEC or Big-12 or even the Pac-10.

Common sense MUST prevail here.

FireMarkBradley!

September 7th, 2010
12:20 am

first off, its the first game of the season Marky Mark so lets see what happens. Yes they played a good game tonight but im on the side of the fence that says theyd go 9-3 in the SEC, big 12, acc. After tonight they play no one worth mentioning so theyll be 2-doesnt matter if they beat oregon state, the other wins are meaningless. You and I could beat the rest of there schedule by ourselves and thats with you serving as the waterboy.
P.S. quit writing

Mike

September 7th, 2010
12:22 am

So, Boise has beat VT, who will likely be at the top of the ACC. If they finish undefeated, they will have beat OSU, (top of the PAC-10) and Fresno State, who beat Cincy (top of the Big East). So thy will have proved themselves over 3 of the AQ conferences. Enough of this strength of schedule B S. Yes, they go undefeated, they deserve to play in the NC. I guess they could play in a joke conference like the one whose team lost to FCS Jacksonville. Wait that is the all powerful SEC, they can do no wrong…

Vols

September 7th, 2010
12:22 am

This is a VT team worse than last year’s which only made the Peach Bowl, by the time the final BCS rankings come out this victory might mean nothing. That being said Boise will still make if there is only one other undefeated team, or none. But if 2 BCS schools go undefeated they’ll be stuck in a rematch against TCU that noone will watch.

Mark Bradley DOESN'T SUCK

September 7th, 2010
12:22 am

They have a potential Heisman at quarterback and have tons of speed, and scored 33 on a VT defense, regardless of how inexperienced. Let them play.

SEC Rules

September 7th, 2010
12:22 am

In the SEC, Boise St. would lose 2-3 games. In their creampuff conference, they have no hard games. End of story.

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:23 am

Great win by Boise but including tonight’s win Boise is 5-3 since 2005 against BCS conference opponents.

If they played in a BCS conference such as the SEC or ACC they would likely mirror an 8 game conference record with the same 5-3 record that they’ve had against bcs conference foes since 2005. That is clearly not good enough to be in a national title game for a bcs conference team. It also doesn’t take into account that a bcs conference team not only plays a rugged 8 game schedule but usually has at least one high profile non conference game each year which makes for a rugged 9 game slate. .

Boise this year will have essentially a 2 game schedule with VT tonight and 24th ranked Oregon State. No way should an undefeated Boise team get in over a 1 loss bcs conference team like an Alabama, Ohio State, Florida, Texas, etc.

Unless Boise plays 5-6 reasonably good teams as in top 30 and bowl bound there is simply no comparison whatsoever in navigating the cupcakes of the WAC as opposed to navigating the minefields of the SEC, ACC, BIG 10, etc.

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:24 am

Great win by Boise but including tonight’s win Boise is 5-3 since 2005 against BCS conference opponents.

If they played in a BCS conference such as the SEC or ACC they would likely mirror an 8 game conference record with the same 5-3 record that they’ve had against bcs conference foes since 2005. That is clearly not good enough to be in a national title game for a bcs conference team. It also doesn’t take into account that a bcs conference team not only plays a rugged 8 game conference schedule but usually has at least one high profile non conference game each year which makes for a rugged 9 game slate. .

Boise this year will have essentially a 2 game schedule with VT tonight and 24th ranked Oregon State. No way should an undefeated Boise team get in over a 1 loss bcs conference team like an Alabama, Ohio State, Florida, Texas, etc.

Unless Boise plays 5-6 reasonably good teams as in top 30 and bowl bound there is simply no comparison whatsoever in navigating the cupcakes of the WAC as opposed to navigating the minefields of the SEC, ACC, BIG 10, etc.

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:25 am

If Boise played in a BCS conference such as the SEC or ACC they would likely mirror an 8 game conference record with the same 5-3 record that they’ve had against bcs conference foes since 2005. That is clearly not good enough to be in a national title game for a bcs conference team. It also doesn’t take into account that a bcs conference team not only plays a rugged 8 game schedule but usually has at least one high profile non conference game each year which makes for a rugged 9 game slate. .

Boise this year will have essentially a 2 game schedule with VT tonight and 24th ranked Oregon State. No way should an undefeated Boise team get in over a 1 loss bcs conference team like an Alabama, Ohio State, Florida, Texas, etc.

Unless Boise plays 5-6 reasonably good teams as in top 30 and bowl bound there is simply no comparison whatsoever in navigating the cupcakes of the WAC as opposed to navigating the minefields of the SEC, ACC, BIG 10, etc.

wxwax

September 7th, 2010
12:26 am

Boise State have looked good in every big game they’ve played.

If they win out, by all means let them play in the big game.

Midtown Dawg

September 7th, 2010
12:27 am

Yes, Boise State deserves to be in the BCS championship game. They cannot be blamed for the absolutely ridiculous system set up to determine a national champion in college football. If they do everything asked of them this season after doing everything asked of them last season, yes they deserve to play for the championship.

Paul in RDU

September 7th, 2010
12:27 am

With the current BCS “rules”, how can an unbeaten BSU team be kept out of the BCS championship game if there are no other unbeatens?
The BCS getting blown up would be the best thing ever to happen to CFB. A Div 1 playoff along the lines of the current NCAA Div 1AA playoffs would be worth $100 MM’s and without having to give huge salaries to all of the blazered leaches at the bowls. At the same time, a playoff may lead to some good regular season OOC match ups similar to what you see in basketball. As it is, a few schools play some good interregional OOC games (this week we have PSU-ALA, UM-OSU, FSU-OU, among others) but most major teams play nothing but cupcakes.

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:28 am

Boise has essentially a 2 game slate with VT and then 24th ranked Oregon State. In no way, shape, or form is that comparable to navigating an 8 game sec slate plus 1 tough non conference game that a typical SEC or ACC team plays.

When Boise plays 5-6 teams that are comparable to what a bcs conference team would see in one season then and only then do they get to play for the national title.

bg3003

September 7th, 2010
12:28 am

Pago Pago Dawg

September 7th, 2010
12:29 am

Let’s be thankful the DAWGS don’t have to play Boise State/Tulsa/ECU!

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:31 am

Boise is 5-3 against bcs teams since 2005 including tonight’s win.

Sorry but all that does is mirror a typical sec or acc conference slate and no bcs conference team would get in the big game with a 5-3 conference record. Fair is fair and getting into the big game having played only 2 tough games a year just aint good enough.

Dave Bliss

September 7th, 2010
12:31 am

How good did Boise St. look when they played UGA and Shockley in ‘05….51-7

Paul in RDU

September 7th, 2010
12:35 am

What does a game 5 years ago have to do with this year?

wawel78

September 7th, 2010
12:40 am

well, most people are going back 4 years to find where Boise beat quality opponents. Why can’t a UGA fan go back 5?

I will admit that I don’t read EVERY college football related article but I haven’t seen anyone put VT at the top of the ACC. Most people put Miami that I have read. This team did not beat the 05 longhorns, or the 09 longhorns for that matter.

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:40 am

Mike,

Boise is only 5-3 against bcs opponents since 2005 including a pounding at the hands of UGA.

Not sure I follow your logic. First of all you don’t know that VT will finish at the top of the ACC. They didn’t last year.

Secondly, they play Fresno which beat Cincy which won the big east last year. That was last year’s Cincy team which will certainly not go 12-0 regular season and which most likely will not win the big east either after losing their coach and a lot of good players.

And Oregon State is not at the top of the pac 10. When is the last time Oregon State has been to the Rose Bowl? Additionally Oregon State beat Boise in 2005.

Get back to me on Boise’s other 9 opponents because they are all really, really, really bad.

BugKiller

September 7th, 2010
12:40 am

Mike,

Wow… you ASSumed a whole heck of a lot there.

Oregon State is the best of the Pac-10??? Really? I think OREGON might disagree with you.

Cincinnati is the best of the Big East??? Really? I think WVU might disagree with you.

VATech is the best of the ACC??? Really? I think Miami, GATech, FSU, or a fully-staffed UNC might disagree with you.

You know what they say about ASSuming, don’t you, Mike?

It means you don’t know a damn thing about college football, that’s what they say.

kyle

September 7th, 2010
12:41 am

hateful kate

September 7th, 2010
12:41 am

yes, cancel the rest of the season and go straight to the title game, it will be anarchy….

Paul in RDU

September 7th, 2010
12:41 am

How many of Boise’s players from 5 years ago are still playing?
If scores from the recent past are important in ranking schools, what does ALA losing to ULM or getting blown out by Utah mean as far as polls are concerned?

Mike

September 7th, 2010
12:42 am

I’m going off of where they are projected to finish. How do you know the SEC is going to be so good this year?

Mike

September 7th, 2010
12:43 am

I didn’t mean literally the unchallenged best. But top 2 or 3 yeah. That is where the “experts” put them.

tckr83

September 7th, 2010
12:44 am

Just going out on a limb here… when is the SEC NOT the best conference or at least in debate for the top spot? It’s like death and taxes…

ugakev

September 7th, 2010
12:44 am

no ,no, and no…They won against a team that is going to lose more games this season…If they want to ever have a shot then change conferences! They showed me nothing tonight besides they took advantage of a pitiful 1st quarter performance from v tech.

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:46 am

Paul in RDU,

My point in going back 5 years is that in that span Boise is only 5-3 against bcs conference teams including tonight’s win. That’s good but not all that impressive. It would be just like and better than average SEC or ACC team going 5-3 in conference. And 5-3 in conference will not get you anywhere near a bcs title. Getting up for and winning a big game here and there is all fine and dandy but do you or anyone else on here really think Boise would go 9-0 through a pac 10 slate or 8-1 or 9-0 through an sec or acc or big 10 slate. No way. They would be a good but not great team that would finish anywhere from 7-5 on the low end to 10-2 on the very high end with a likely finish of 8-4 or 9-3 in the sec, acc, big 10, or big 12.

broncobuster

September 7th, 2010
12:46 am

@sure….. “Go ahead, let them play in the BCS title game…they’ll get hammered & we’ll finally put an end to this nonsense! Any decent team can prepare for 1 big game. B State has only 1 game left now…O State.

Could u imagine B State playing Bama or Texas?”

this is what everybody said when playing Oklahoma in the 07 fiesta bowl. What was the result in that game again?

ClutchCoale

September 7th, 2010
12:47 am

Do they deserve a chance, yes. Do they deserve it based on tonight’s performance? No. They didn’t really do anything impressive. It was all Hokies out there. Hokies making big time mistakes early and spotting them 17. BSU should’ve sunk their teeth in and ran away with it. Instead they sat and folded, while VT made an amazing comeback. They only won because of terrible officiating at the end (can anyone say block in the back)? Even the announcers were stating how obvious the call was. So what if he turned sideways AFTER he was hit. The impact was still in the back. Late hit out of bounds? How about late whistle which made VT player think the play was still active. Terrible. Simply terrible. To be honest, VT deserved to win that game based on both team’s performance. Lucky for BSU, life’s not fair and VT loses the big games. So enjoy this victory BSU, because you hardly earned it. All things equal, VT won 23-9. But, if we look at VT history, big teams beating VT early go on to win National Championships (see USC 2004, LSU 2007, Alabama 2009). A lot to live up to and realistically speaking, a cake schedule the rest of the way. Granted your strength of schedule doesn’t take you out, you should have a solid bid for the #1 spot.

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:47 am

Paul,

Its overall performance that we’re talking about. Not 1 or 2 games. Example Bama lost 1 game to Utah. And one to LA-Monroe. But how many other non bcs conference losses has bama had over the years?

gatorman770

September 7th, 2010
12:47 am

Only if they go undefeated and there is no undefeated Bowl Championship conference teams, due to their creampuff schedule. Now if there was a 8 or 16 game playoff, they definitely would deserve to play their way in against the major conference teams that play much tougher schedules.

ugakev

September 7th, 2010
12:48 am

NO , NO AND NO!!! enough said …Boise st proved me nothing except they took advanage of a horrible start by virginia tech.

Tide Rising

September 7th, 2010
12:49 am

Mike,

Its possible VT could win the acc but with 2 or more losses most likely. All Boise did was do what at least 1 or 2 other acc teams will do and beat VT. As for Oregon State I don’t know anyone picking them to win the pac 10. And Fresno? A decent team longer term but they’ve slipped lately.

Mike

September 7th, 2010
12:50 am

You kinda have to assume at this point. Turns out there are 11 more games that every team actually needs to play. Not that it matters, because with the BCS, only 3 conferences have a legitimate shot to put ther teams in the NC this year. At least if they follow what y’all are saying. Keats just give the NC to the Ohio State, and call it a year. No need to let any of the little guys actually try to settle it on the field.