Save that sign! It could be applicable come postseason. (AJC photo by Curtis Compton)
This should be a great race. The Braves saw Martin Prado return last week and swung the trade for Derrek Lee. The Phillies’ injured starters — Chase Utley, Shane Victorino and Ryan Howard — are injured no longer. We’re nearing September and we’re anticipating one of those down-to-the-final-weekend chases that emblazoned 1991 and 1993 in our memory, but …
It won’t happen.
After that 3-6 road trip that allowed the Phillies to creep close, the Braves have gone 13-6. As of this morning, the Braves led the Phils by 2 1/2 games — exactly the spread on Aug. 1, the day that road trip ended. Both clubs are tearing it up and both have geared up and we’re all getting geeked up, but two little words offer a reason to calm down. The words: “Wild card.”
The Phillies top the wild card standings by two games over St. Louis and San Francisco. Ergo, the Braves sit atop the final National League playoff spot on a 4 1/2-game cushion. Even if the Braves can’t hold off the Phillies — the belief here is that they can and will — they still have a fallback position.
The Cardinals are 9-8 in August; the Giants are 9-11. St. Louis is closer to the Reds, who lead the NL Central by 3 1/2 games, than to the Braves. San Francisco is six games behind the Padres in the West and has lost four of its past five series.
Of the Giants’ 37 remaining games, 22 are against teams above .500. Of the Cardinals’ 41 remaining games, 25 are against teams under .500. (This includes a postponed game against Florida, the makeup date for which hasn’t been set.) If either is apt to mount a late challenge, it’s going to be St. Louis, and the Cardinals seem a more pressing concern for the Reds than the Braves or Phillies.
For all the time we’ve spent casting our glance toward Philly, the cold truth is that both the Braves and the Phils are apt to play beyond the 162nd game. Charlie Manuel, the Phillies’ homespun manager, told reporters last week, “We don’t care about the wild card.” But it’s better to get into the playoffs, duh, than to sit at home. And we know from history that being the wild card is no impediment to postseason success.
From 2002 through 2007, every World Series included at least one wild-card qualifier, and three of those teams — the 2002 Angels, the 2003 Marlins and the 2004 Red Sox — won it all. And if the playoffs began today, the second-place Phils would probably be favored to emerge from the National League bracket. If you’re Philadelphia, which has won the NL East three seasons running and has reached the World Series the past two Octobers, all you want is to qualify.
Yes, it’s different now. In 1991, the Braves and Dodgers spent every day from Aug. 22 on within two games of each other. In 1993 the Braves went from 9 1/2 behind the Giants on Aug. 9 to four ahead on Sept. 17 to tied after 161 games. Then Tom Glavine beat Colorado on the season’s final Sunday and David Justice hit a home run — that parlay would strike again in Game 6 of the 1995 World Series — and the Braves watched as the Giants, who finished with the best record in franchise history, lost to the Dodgers and took their 103 wins and went home.
That’s considered the Last Great Pennant Chase, for good reason. The wild card arrived in 1994, which was the strike year, and was implemented in 1995. The bulk of breathless baseball finishes since have involved the wild card, not a division title. An exception, sort of, came last year, when the Tigers blew a three-game lead with four to play and lost the AL Central to Minnesota in a one-game playoff. But even with the extra game, the Twins wound up with 87 victories.
The Braves already have 73. If they split their final 38 games, they’ll have 92 wins, and 92 wins has been enough to claim the National League wild card every season since 2002. Put simply, they’ll have to collapse not to make the playoffs. And they’re not going to collapse. Their pitching won’t allow it.
This team is going to make the playoffs. So is Charlie Manuel’s team. And they’ll see each other in mid-October, a World Series berth on the line.
408 comments Add your comment
whensidslid92
August 23rd, 2010
11:18 am
first
BRAVO TACO
August 23rd, 2010
11:18 am
FIRST
BRAVO TACO
August 23rd, 2010
11:19 am
Finally, my first cherry has been popped – thank you, MArk
BRAVO TACO
August 23rd, 2010
11:19 am
Oh yeah, and good post too – keep em cranking
Greg
August 23rd, 2010
11:21 am
first
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
11:22 am
Kudos, whensidslid. Close race. Had to clear out the “spam” queue to decide it.
Frank
August 23rd, 2010
11:22 am
I may be first, but I don’t care. I agree with your assessment.
BRAVO TACO
August 23rd, 2010
11:24 am
nooooo! I’m a blog-first virgin again
D in ATL
August 23rd, 2010
11:25 am
Agree 100%. Amazingly you have been on the mark lately Mr. Bradley!
bob
August 23rd, 2010
11:25 am
Hope your right, but 1st round exits can happen fast. Braves still need more power to win it all.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
11:26 am
Thanks, Frank. (Your last name wouldn’t be spelled W-R-E-N, would it?)
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
11:26 am
D in ATL, I’m never on the mark. That’s why my name is such a misnomer.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
11:27 am
And we in Atlanta know more than any city about first-round exits, Bob.
Rob
August 23rd, 2010
11:29 am
Ah but you forget that the braves have 4 games against the cards. And they were swept in 4 games this season already.
And what happened to your belief last month that they wouldn’t squander the lead? The key to the season lies this week and next. The braves completed part 1 winning the cubs series. Next week it’s the phils on a tough road trip. If the braves get the lead up to 5-6 games after that trip, they likely have it. If it stays at 2-3 games or if they somehow lose the lead, then I think Philly wins the division and the braves better watch out cause of the cards won 3/4 here, they could be tied with the braves for the wild card.
BRAD STEVENS
August 23rd, 2010
11:30 am
Can we please get more bad press on Paul Hewitt. He has to go!
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
11:30 am
Nothing has changed, Rob. I still don’t think the Braves will lose their lead. Did I not make that point in this post as well?
Bryan G.
August 23rd, 2010
11:31 am
I think a good over/under for the Braves is 94.5 wins
papadawg
August 23rd, 2010
11:31 am
Playoffs or not this team is just flat fun to watch.
Rob
August 23rd, 2010
11:32 am
Actually the phils tought trip starts friday @ SD.
Love the Braves in NC
August 23rd, 2010
11:32 am
Good assessment, Mr. B. I am more excited this year than I have been in a long time, and your article makes me feel better about the Phillies. If we were to play them tomorrow, we would win, even against their healthy team.
Rob
August 23rd, 2010
11:34 am
Not when you say this–Even if the Braves can’t hold off the Phillies
meh
August 23rd, 2010
11:34 am
I’m thinking the Braves have too much pitching for a first round exit.
Mr. Phil
August 23rd, 2010
11:37 am
“fall back position”! I shutter to think. In the words of Ricky Bobby, you are either first or you’re last.
Brent
August 23rd, 2010
11:37 am
Welcome back Mark, these long weekends are killing me.
Rob
August 23rd, 2010
11:37 am
And one more point. For some reason, the braves struggle beating the nats and marlins. The phils struggle with the mets. The braves need to play better against the nats and marlins as they have 15 games remaining against them.
Jim Hertel
August 23rd, 2010
11:40 am
Good article, Mark. I know it is only 3 games into his major league career, but what do you think about Mike Minor? It seems to me that he has great stuff and tremendous poise. Why was there so much negative about him when he was drafted? What do those people think now?
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
11:40 am
Excellent post MB.
Would be some thrilling baseball if the Phillies and Braves met in the NLCS.
Bottom line. Get in the playoffs and lets see what happens.
Joey
August 23rd, 2010
11:42 am
If the Braves get ANY hitting in the postseason, who is gonna beat Huddy, Jurrjens, and Minor/Hanson/Lowe (whichever is hot at playoff time)?
papadawg
August 23rd, 2010
11:42 am
The Braves are still having problems getting runners in with less than 2 outs. Lost Saturdays game when they had several chances to score
Rob
August 23rd, 2010
11:42 am
What a great day Sept 11 is going to be. Got the local football teams playing at noon. Then the great games between ohio st miami fsu ok and alab psu and then of course the braves cardinals at 4:15! That is going to be one fun day!
SG10
August 23rd, 2010
11:44 am
Mark,
Good column as usual..
I will be watching Phillies play Astros for some office event here in Philadelphia this week. Any tips on how to survive the worst fans in Baseball while routing against the Phillies?
Samuel
August 23rd, 2010
11:44 am
joey
one can say the same thing about halladay, hamels and oswalt for the phillies. would be a great series if they meet but i think the padres win the nl.
papadawg
August 23rd, 2010
11:45 am
SG10, there is no cure for the Phillies Fans. Walk away and find a private room
Craig Daliessio
August 23rd, 2010
11:45 am
Sorry Jethro…you’re not going to win the East and lose yet ANOTHER World Series. Crowing about your 14 East division titles and showing that ONE ring is pathetic. Phillies back in the Series again and this year we win it AGAIN. A REAL sports town knows how to throw a parade.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
11:45 am
Why was there so much negative about him when he was drafted? What do those people think now?
I think a lot of it had to do with the scouting reports. People were saying he only threw 88 and he projected as a 4th or 5th starter etc etc.
Also in case you haven’t noticed. Braves fans on these blogs tend to not be the patient, wait and see types.
I remember being on the DOB blog the day of the draft and people were literally coming unglued.
Keith
August 23rd, 2010
11:46 am
Okay Mark. Let’s get real! You know and I know it will be the Phils by 2+ games. Yes, the Braves have had a great season, and a great ballclub, but not so fast. The Phils are the better team. I know fans won’t like this assessment, but I’ll bet that is the way the season will end.
Stanley Crowe
August 23rd, 2010
11:46 am
I think we’ll make the playoffs, but I more reluctant than Mark is to write off the Cards and the Giants. Yes, the Giants haven’t been doing too well lately, but they’re still close enough in the wild-card race to be a factor, and as for the Cards, they look very dangerous to me — great pitching, plenty of offense, potentially. I think it’s important for the Braves to hang in on first, because I’m not as sure as Mark is that the WC will come from the NL East. The question is — will the Phils go on one more tear? I don’t think so — Utley and Victorino seem to me to be underachieving a bit this year, and Ryan Howard will not, I believe, come back quickly from the layoff. Halliday, of course, is great, and Ostwalt and Hamels aren’t bad, but they’re not close-downers, and the bullpen (while improving) isn’t great and won’t become great in the time remaining. We have to keep playing well, though — more consistent offense and tighten up the defense. Let’s not beat ourselves.
keetmalik
August 23rd, 2010
11:47 am
I’m on board,Braves won’t collapse that’s for sure.Philly will be in the mix,no doubt.
Kelvin
August 23rd, 2010
11:48 am
Mark, I agree with your assessment as well. However, come post season the Phils will be the favorites because of their three front line starters and RBI producing line up. I don’t think the Braves are afraid of anybody, but we will have to be clicking on all cylinders to get past the Phils.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
11:49 am
The Phillies are a better team than the Braves and that would show in a NLCS matchup. Although the Braves have good starting pitching, they don’t have overpowering starting pitching. You want dominant pitchers in the postseason like Halladay, Hamels and Oswalt…pitchers that can strike you out.
Pitchers who pitch to contact like Hudson find themselves in trouble in the playoffs especially when the team behind him rank 4th in MLB in errors.
I don’t know how you Braves fans think you’re going to win a pennant with well below average defense?
Since 2000, only 1 team has won a World Series being ranked in the top 10 in errors committed and that was the 2004 Red Sox. Every other team that has won a W.S this decade have finished 18th or better…..the Braves are curretly 4th.
The only teams that have committed more errors than the Braves are the Indians, Marlins and Nats.
But don’t worry Braves fans, I’m sure the Braves will keep on rallying late.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
11:52 am
You want dominant pitchers in the postseason like Halladay, Hamels and Oswalt…pitchers that can strike you out.
Hamels is not a dominant pitcher. He is average at best. Oswalt doesn’t really scare me either.
Ted M
August 23rd, 2010
11:52 am
Either the Cards or the Reds will win the wild card.
I’m more encouraged about the Braves holding off the Phils. Lee is going to get hot.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
11:53 am
But don’t worry Braves fans, I’m sure the Braves will keep on rallying late.
Im sure we will too. Especially against the Phillies awful bullpen.
DawgDad
August 23rd, 2010
11:53 am
OK, so it appears the Braves picked up one game in the wild card race over the weekend, and they have a 4-1/2 game lead in the race for a playoff spot. That’s good news. It’s also a dangerously thin margin; far too early to count chickens, especially with a pitching staff populated with rookies, young tender arms, and medical retreads.
Can the Braves make the playoffs? Sure. Will they? I like their chances a lot better today than I did last Monday, that’s for sure. D-Lee gives the lineup an air of legitimacy in the RBI slots (Prado-Lee-McCann) that it’s lacked since early June. I think the Braves can get some mileage out of their September callups, too. They need to settle down defensively on the infield and stop throwing the ball wildly all over the field. The consistency of Infante and Prado and of Heyward’s OBP at the top has been the glue holding the offense together; now that Lee’s out of Chicago I expect he’ll settle in comfortably and start raking again.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
11:56 am
“Hamels is not a dominant pitcher. He is average at best. Oswalt doesn’t really scare me either.”
Hamels is 5th in the N.L in strikeouts behind Halladay, Kershaw, Lincecum and Wainwright.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
11:56 am
The issue with Mike Minor was that some scouts — Keith Law of ESPN’s Insiders was most emphatic — didn’t believe he had room to improve. They thought he was close to peak capacity coming out of college. But Minor is throwing harder now, and I note that Mr. Law has begun to come around.
Also: There’s a rule of thumb among some baseball executives — don’t draft college pitchers.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
11:58 am
Thanks, SG10. And I think the Philly fan stuff is a tad overrated.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
11:58 am
“Im sure we will too. Especially against the Phillies awful bullpen.”
The same Phillies bullpen that has been lights out in August?
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
11:59 am
Hamels is 5th in the N.L in strikeouts behind Halladay, Kershaw, Lincecum and Wainwright.
He also gives up a ton of hits and his WHIP is pretty high
Yawn.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:00 pm
The same Phillies bullpen that has been lights out in August?
No the same Brad Lidge we have seen the last two years.
Let's Go
August 23rd, 2010
12:01 pm
Why Mark Why must you write articles like this. Do you really want to jinx this thing?
G Morris
August 23rd, 2010
12:02 pm
Charlie Manuel’s point is that you should never lean on the Wild Card. If you happen to get it, great. Too many times someone goes a tear to finish the year and swipes the WC.
We’ll know more about the Phils-Braves matchup after the two series. Chances are the Phils will line up Halladay, Hamels & Oswalt to start all 6 games. If someone takes 4 of 6…they’ll probably win the division.
Chris
August 23rd, 2010
12:03 pm
I agree that both teams will be in the playoffs. Basically it’s a pride thing at this point between the two teams. It would be nice to have home-field advantage though. I just feel we can’t be beat in the playoffs at home. As a wild-card we wouldn’t have home-field until the World Series. That could be a problem as the Braves seem to be around a .500 team on the road.
Coop
August 23rd, 2010
12:03 pm
While the wildcard is a nice cushion, we need that home-field advantage. Have you seen our road record. Especially in a short series, do you want to go to St. Louis or Cincy or have them come to the Ted?
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:03 pm
The Phillies dont really scare me that much.
We are talking about the losingest franchise in the history of MLB.
We have pounded them pretty good head to head the last couple of years.
Sure these are their golden years but they will be gone soon enough.
The Padres scare me more.
Joe
August 23rd, 2010
12:04 pm
Just remember the phillies have pitchers and players who have won a world series. The braves don’t.
fieldofdreams
August 23rd, 2010
12:05 pm
If the parts come together this lineup can win the whole shebang, but I’d be a lot more comfortable with home-field throughout. That said, the old paranoia about umpires under MLB orders to fatten television ratings will (finally) go our way; Cox coaching in the World Series is a ratings feast. We’ll get the benefit of the doubt on close calls during playoffs, especially against Cincinnati or San Diego.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
12:06 pm
“He also gives up a ton of hits and his WHIP is pretty high”
Yet his WHIP is better than Hanson and Jurijens….He’s better than any pitcher on the Braves not named Hudson and that’s a fact but I don’t expect you to acknowledge facts.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:07 pm
Just remember the phillies have pitchers and players who have won a world series. The braves don’t.
Derrek Lee, Hinske, Gonzalez, Lowe have all won titles.
And im sure there are more thats just off the top of my head.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:09 pm
He’s better than any pitcher on the Braves not named Hudson and that’s a fact but I don’t expect you to acknowledge facts.
Jurjens is the better pitcher. He was injured the first half so his numbers are a bit skewed. Ill take JJ anyday over ” lets get the WS over ” Hamels
You really think you guys are going to win with the worst closer in MLB and that bullpen.
Hilarious.
Coop
August 23rd, 2010
12:09 pm
Carl – Can’t agree with Hamels better than JJ. Maybe Hanson and Lowe…
I’m not sure you know what the word “fact” means though. You seem to have it confused with opinion…
Let's Go
August 23rd, 2010
12:10 pm
If the Cardinals don’t win the Central then you may be right about these 2 teams meeting in NLCS. The Braves match up better against the Padres (over Reds & Cards) since both teams have “Real” size ballparks and the Braves can probably win a 5 game series without having to score 5 or more runs. The Cardinals would be a tough opening 5 game series for either team with Carpenter & Wainwright.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:10 pm
Hamels and Hanson have had pretty close to the same season — good ERAs, not very good W-L records.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:11 pm
Can’t understand the Cardinals, Let’s Go. I keep expecting that team to fly past the Redlegs, and it still hasn’t happened.
Tom
August 23rd, 2010
12:12 pm
Braves suck. They really wouldn’t beat the phillies if they played em tommorow. The braves will get the wild card and lose in the first round to the padres.
Hans
August 23rd, 2010
12:14 pm
A Phillies fan just informed that for the last 6 games we play against them, we are going to face Hamels, Oswalt, and Halladay…. Twice….
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:14 pm
Phillies are the worst franchise in MLB history.
Their recent success is a blip on the radar. They will be the Cubs again soon enough.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
12:16 pm
“Carl – Can’t agree with Hamels better than JJ. Maybe Hanson and Lowe…”
Adjusted ERA+, often simply abbreviated to ERA+ or ERA plus, is a pitching statistic in baseball. It adjusts a pitcher’s earned run average (ERA) according to the pitcher’s ballpark (in case the ballpark favors batters or pitchers) and the ERA of the pitcher’s league. Average ERA+ is set to be 100; a score above 100 indicates that the pitcher performed better than average, below 100 indicates worse than average.
Hamels ERA+ is 117 while Jurijens is 102. This shows that Hamels has been the much more effective pitcher in a much more hitter friendly park.
Fans love to criticize the Phillies hitters because they play in bandbox but don’t credit to the Phillies pitchers who pitch in that same park.
Jurijens has been lights at home and awful on the road. You give Jurijens 16 starts at CBP and do you think he would have a sub 4 ERA?
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:16 pm
Don’t know about that, Headley. The Phillies are already on the kind of streak the Cubs have never had.
I’m not going to say anything negative about the Phils. I admire that team very much. Some decent folks over there, too.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:19 pm
A Phillies fan just informed that for the last 6 games we play against them, we are going to face Hamels, Oswalt, and Halladay…. Twice….
Who cares? They will be facing Hudson, JJ, and Hanson twice.
Plus what does it matter if we are 6 games up by then
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
12:20 pm
Phillie Lovers…you better mind yourself, not the Braves. I love the Braves but am a realist and some recent reality shows me the Phillies aren’t capitalizing on opportunities. They lost each time the Braves lost last week, when the Braves were not at their best and against sub-.500 teams. You’ve got to ask yourself…you’ve got 6 all star position players and 3 Cy Young Pitchers and you’re STILL in second place and haven’t gained ground since you went 13 for 15. To be honest I don’t see how the Braves are still in 1st with absolutely no power outlets on the team but you guys aren’t getting the job done either. You can act as confident as you want but remember you did better WITHOUT Victorino, Utley and Howard….maybe it back to the June Swoon instead of a September to Remember.
XphillyX
August 23rd, 2010
12:20 pm
We aren’t that bad as fans. The vet is gone, and so is a lot of the attitude. We are arrogant because we are a great sports town and our teams are playing really well. It’s called passion.
And if Hamels and Oswalt pitch like they are able to, your yawn will be about a week early in october when WE are representing the NL again.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:21 pm
You give Jurijens 16 starts at CBP and do you think he would have a sub 4 ERA?
Yes I do.
JJ Had an ERA+ of 159 last year. Hamels has never come close to that. JJ could pitch anywhere and if not for the groin injury this year his numbers would be alot different.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:23 pm
Veterans Stadium was pretty much a horror. I’ll agree there, XphillyX.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:23 pm
Oswalt has been slightly better than average the last three years.
He isnt the pitcher he used to be.
Yawn.
GovClintonTyree
August 23rd, 2010
12:23 pm
All that misinformation regarding Minor around draft day can be laid at the feet of Keith Law, one of those ESPN quasi-scout/analysts. He said Minor threw 88, was drafted for signability because the Braves are cheap, etc.
I have now seen him three times and if Keith Law had actually seen him before the draft, he would have known that the guy threw 93, not 88, and had three plus pitches, excellent command and intelligence in a lefthanded package. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that the guy’s the real deal.
I like him better than Hanson. Cleaner mechanics, more aggressive, smarter, lefthanded.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:24 pm
Keith Law cuts a wide swath in baseball circles, GovTyree. No doubt about that.
Coop
August 23rd, 2010
12:24 pm
Carl – Interesting. Do you adjust for JJ’s early struggles while hurt? Look, all I’m saying is that for my money, JJ is a better pitcher right now than Hamels. I think the Phils have a dangerous team, but it’s their hitting and not their pitching that firghtens me. Frankly, Hallady gets me a bit apprehensive, but I think we match up pretty well with our starters. I also think the Bravos have a much better bullpen. Will see soon enough.
XphillyX
August 23rd, 2010
12:25 pm
Victorino, Utley and Howard JUST came back. September collapses are something we have had the luxury of taking advantage of since ‘07. Wait until everyone is meshing again. Your hudd, jj, and whoever else you have can’t carry a team. you still need clutch hitting and with your senior citizen done, mccann can’t be expected to win every game.
Tom
August 23rd, 2010
12:25 pm
Our arrogance is becuse we are one of the three best, if not the best second half teams in the MLB.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:25 pm
Minor does have a bright future.
Just one of a plethora of arms your going to see coming along in the next few years.
Farm system is loaded with em.
GovClintonTyree
August 23rd, 2010
12:25 pm
Philly fans, this is going to be a great pennant race. I have great respect for your ballclub but think our boys can pull it out.
The only difference is, now the loser is likely to get the wild card. Less hair-raising.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
12:27 pm
Oswalt has been slightly better than average the last three years. He isnt the pitcher he used to be.”
He doesn’t have to be the pitcher he used to be…he doesn’t have to be an ace we already have that
BTW…he’s also 6th in the N.L in WHIP.
I know you’re a Braves fan but come on…
XphillyX
August 23rd, 2010
12:28 pm
And i am not taking anything away from the atl staff. except lowe. that’s the reason the braves are still playing for a reason.
SG10
August 23rd, 2010
12:29 pm
Mark,
Actually, that is true. I have been to several Braves-Phillies games in past and openly rooted for Braves and no fan threw up on me
but then, Braves were really good back then…
I didn’t mind Phillies for past couple years but this year I find bit of cockiness, right from the beginning of the season…
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
12:29 pm
A Phillies fan just informed me that they are the greatest team of all time!! OMG, what are we gonna do????!!!!!
Listen I know the Braves don’t scare anybody and inspire little confidence in the masses but you know what???? They win. I wouldn’t bet on them to beat the Phillies straight up but I have seen really average teams beat very good teams before….mostly every team that beat the Braves in the playoffs from ‘96-’05. It happens and if I was Phillie fan I be worried that maybe all those all-stars are just EXPECTING to win instead of working to win.
Headley Lamar
August 23rd, 2010
12:30 pm
I know you’re a Braves fan but come on…
I know your a Phillies fan but cmon.
you guys win the division a couple of times and you think you invented the game.
Enjoy it while you can and you better win now because Utley and Howard etc etc are getting old. The phillies arent the kind of franchise that can replace that kind of talent. Meaning they arent getting lucky again.
Let's Go
August 23rd, 2010
12:31 pm
Puppet Please!!
I was thinking the same thing. When this Philly team was healthy they were struggling and then their superstars get hurt and they pull together and start winning. Oswalt helps them but too many people in the media seem to forget that he is not that dominating pitcher he once was. Yes, he makes them a better team but not that much better.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:31 pm
The Phillies couldn’t have invented baseball, Headley. We all know Bobby Valentine did that.
GovClintonTyree
August 23rd, 2010
12:31 pm
Fellow Braves fans, if any of you think Oswalt is anything less than a horse, I don’t know what to tell you. Great pickup by Philly.
But as Headley points out Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, Hudson, Jurrjens, Hanson…what’s the difference? Gonna be a rumble.
The one I hope to see is Mike Minor vs. Kyle Kendrick or Joe Blanton. Heh.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
12:32 pm
@Coop
I think one of the reasons that Halladay has success against the Braves is because he pounds the strike zone and we all know how patient the Braves are. That’s why he’s thrown two gems against the Braves this year because aren’t nearly aggresive enough to hurt Halladay. This is where I think the Braves are going to struggle in the playoff against good pitching.
I’m not going to call you crazy for taking J.J over Hamels but I would give the edge to Hamels.
PMC
August 23rd, 2010
12:33 pm
The Braves play better against the best teams. They’ve done well against the Phillies this year. Outside of Halladay there’s no one on the entire staff that’s really fearsome. Overall they are still better on paper with more established stars….but The Braves can absolutely beat them in a best of 7.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:33 pm
Carl, another reason Halladay has success against the Braves is this: He’s a great pitcher.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:36 pm
PMC, that’s a good point. The Braves did lose two of three to the Reds three weeks ago, but they’ve gone 8-3 against the Padres, Giants and Dodgers since the All-Star break.
Kentavo
August 23rd, 2010
12:37 pm
Would appreciate the Philthies losing at least once on a day we win, but hey, as long as they lose the same days that we do, got no problem with that (except head-to-head when that is impossible, of course).
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
12:37 pm
“Enjoy it while you can and you better win now because Utley and Howard etc etc are getting old. The phillies arent the kind of franchise that can replace that kind of talent. Meaning they arent getting lucky again.”
I don’t know how you call the development of Howard, Utley, Rollins and Hamels lucky? I think that’s called good scouting and a good organization but if you want to call it lucky…
Are the Phils going to maintain their level of success….who knows but as long as their selling out CBP and getting the revenues that they are, they’re going to be able to sign free agents like Halladay, Oswalt and Polanco.
If they can maintain their 140 mil payroll….they’ll be in good shape.
The Phillies are the better team IMO….the better doesn’t always win. You Braves fans are dealing with what Mets and Phillies fans dealt with for 14 years….at the end of the day the cream always rise to the top and that is what is going to happen this year.
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
12:40 pm
Phillie Fan please, know your enemy. Did you know Hanson had a 1.05 ERA in his 5 previous starts prior to Sat? That beats the F out of Halladay, Hamels and Oswalt. Hanson is JUST as good as anybody the Braves have. He’s not as consistent but when he is dialed in, he’s as good as anybody. And its not McCann you need to worry about in the Braves lineup, its Prado and Infante. IF….IF…BIG IF, Lee comes in and starts hitting, the Braves can be VERY dangerous, because Prado, Heywared and Infante get on base. If Lee picks up the slack that just takes more pressure off McCann and Insert 6 and 7 hole guys here. Lee is the key, just like Glaus was in May. We get prodcution from the 4 hole, its over for you guys.
jokurone
August 23rd, 2010
12:40 pm
Bombs away in Colorado starting this evening. Huddie will keep em low and Heyward will hitem high and far!
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
August 23rd, 2010
12:41 pm
braves & phills have 9 games left to play each other- whoever wins the majority of those games is your NL EAST Champion
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:41 pm
Braves and Phils actually have six games left against each other, Dr. Kenneth.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
August 23rd, 2010
12:42 pm
my mistake MB- if im not mistaken, all 6 games are in Philly?
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
12:44 pm
Sept. 17-26
The Braves have a 9 game roadtrip at the same time the Phillies have a 9 game home stand.
Milt Famey
August 23rd, 2010
12:45 pm
We need to win the division and have the best record to keep home field advantage. This will be especially important against the Phillies. We don’t want to have to play them in their bandbox which favors their offense and not our stronger pitching staff Glad the last series is in the ATL.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:46 pm
Nope. First three there, then the season-ending series here.
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
12:48 pm
The home field is nice and all, but in the postseason it doesn’t always matter. The Braves had the home-field edge in the first round in 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005 — and lost all four series.
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
August 23rd, 2010
12:51 pm
thanks again for the correction, MB- it’s Monday and the cobwebs are still there.
Milt Famey
August 23rd, 2010
1:02 pm
I agree that once you reach the playoffs you’re playing teams which win at home and on the road but I really don’t like to play Phila in their park. They have mounted some unbelievable comebacks there lately and I think that small park negates our pitching advantage. I still remember the ‘91 WS when the ballpark should have won the MVP award for the Twins
LuisG - Win-it-4-Bobby-n-Chipper!
August 23rd, 2010
1:03 pm
Good article.
I’ll have to point out something here. The Braves need to continue to win series. They also need to play good baseball against teams they haven’t played very well this year (We all know that…). Philadelphia have a tougher schedule than the Braves have (as far as opponents winning percentage) but they’ve also played better baseball against those teams than the Braves have against their own upcoming opponents.
Here are some numbers:
Braves’ remaining opponents are a combined 418-444 (.485) and the Braves have a 30-27 record (.523) against them (with losing record against both the Mets and the Cardinals, and having to face a weak Pirates team);
Phillies’ remaining opponents are a combined 563-550 (.506) and the Phillies have a 40-25 record (.615) against them (with a winning record against everybody but the Braves).
You can see that Phillies’ opponents seem to be stronger/better than the Braves’, but Philadelphia have played pretty well against them.
Based on the performance of their opponents, assuming every team will play the way they’ve been playing (which is something no one can assure), the Braves would end up with around 92 to 93 wins and the Phillies with around 87 to 96.
I’m pretty confident the Braves will still win the division, with those final 6 games against Philadelphia being decisive for us.
NY Frenchy ( see ya in KC next year)
August 23rd, 2010
1:04 pm
Lets hope we do meet in the NLCS against the Phils, thats how you want to win it, against the defending champs from your own division, not backing in, the Phils dont have the bullpen to match us, this year is a year of destiny for the Bravos, but we do need the home field, CHOP CHOP
Bruce Mac
August 23rd, 2010
1:06 pm
So, the Braves have lost how many games to the Phillies since your last prediction (the 8 reasons)? And now you have to put it out there again so we can lose the rest. Unreal. Leave it alone, please. Never mind, too late.
Katherine
August 23rd, 2010
1:08 pm
This is an exciting time of year!
extremus
August 23rd, 2010
1:09 pm
The predictions of a playoff matchup against the Phillies may very well come to pass, but I wouldn’t go assuming anything with such a scant lead (even for the wild card) and five or six weeks to go. As we’ve been made acutely aware since the All-Star break, a lot of things can happen over the course of a season, and not all of them are good things. The Braves are fortunate that guys have picked each other up and been able to sub for injured players so far, but the question is, “How much magic is left in that bottle?”.
Hopefully enough to win the World Series. But let’s not light the victory cigars just yet.
Katherine
August 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
I think this year, more than any, homefield does matter to the braves…they’ve proven it.
jfreak
August 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
I its foolish to assume that whoever gets the wildcard would beat the Padres? The Padres have VERY GOOD pitching and in the playoffs pitching and defense usually wins! The Braves would do better by focusing on how to win the division and let Philly deal with the Padres. I know the Phillies and Braves have really good pitching as well but the Padres scare me for some reason. They get very little press and they seem to go about their business the right way. I guess they remind me of the Marlins and the Diamondbacks who won the World Series!
JTH
August 23rd, 2010
1:14 pm
Mark Bradley with the kiss of death prediction.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
“I guess they remind me of the Marlins and the Diamondbacks who won the World Series.”
The 03 Marlins had mashers like Pudge, D. Lee (prime), Miguel Cabrera….
The 00 D’backs had Schilling and Johnson….not sure Latos and Garland is quite on that level.
Mark's for the Braves
August 23rd, 2010
1:20 pm
I totally agree with you, Mark. I just hope the Braves are the NL East winner and the Phillies are the wild card winner so we’ll get 4 home games. I don’t think the Phillies can beat us if we have 4 home games in the playoffs. Can you say, revenge for 1993?
Jon
August 23rd, 2010
1:21 pm
National media will say that it is more because the Phillies choke than the Braves success if the Phillies don’t overtake the Braves for the division. They’re already saying that the Phillies will make it back to the WS despite sitting behind the Braves for most of the season.
If anything, you need to be watching out for the Padres. IF they make the WS, that will be one lost world series. Few fans even know more than 2 Padres, who have been there the entire season. Ludwick and Tejada, obviously, don’t count. Mat Latos, Adrian Gonzalez, Heath Bell…they’ve got good pitching and have baseball’s best run differential.
Lane Jones
August 23rd, 2010
1:25 pm
Mark, i still have pictures of you from the AJC from the 1980’s with a big mustache and an afro. If you jinx the Braves, i am going to pull out those pics and show them to the world. Promise.
Relievers ERA, Another meaningless stat
August 23rd, 2010
1:25 pm
The Phils have been hot for too long now. They will cool off and the Cards will heat up. Phils fall out, Cards in.
Two weeks ago the PHils had won something like 14/17 and haven’t really cooled off since. They have to cool off.
ICEMANcometh10
August 23rd, 2010
1:25 pm
This lineup will line itself out and begin to hit like no other. Last nights game will be reminiscent of our just before mid season charge. During that span we won a bunch of games by scoring 5 or more runs and were undefeated in said games for a while.
Yeah 6 games in the last two weeks will determine if your article is true. I tend to believe the Braves will keep the Phillies out with these last two series. I would love to beat them in the NLDS but I would rather enjoy us beating them OUT of the playoffs…………………………….
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Lenny D
August 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm
Everyone needs to calm down with the my team will destroy your team and your team isnt that good babble. Obviously both teams are pretty good and are more than capable of winning the NL this year. Phillies lined themselves up pretty well with their starting rotation, and the braves rotation is formidable also. These two teams will have to battle it out to decide it, its not going to be one-sided.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
1:34 pm
“Two weeks ago the PHils had won something like 14/17 and haven’t really cooled off since. They have to cool off.”
Not necessarily….we haven’t seen what this group of Phillies are capable of. With Oswalt and Polanco maybe the Phillies are a team that can go 30-10?
Katherine
August 23rd, 2010
1:35 pm
Well said Lenny….I think it’s exciting..all the ups and downs. This season is anything but boring..I love it.
Sonny Clusters
August 23rd, 2010
1:40 pm
We was thinking that the goal of past Braves teams was to win the division – not the pennant – the division. Then, when they won it they would lose right away to the wild card. We are hoping this year the goal will be a World Series win. To do this, they should (1) not eat eggs until the salmonella scare is over, and (2) play hard and don’t let Troy Glaus play third under any circumstance. And how about that Mike Minor!
Mike
August 23rd, 2010
1:46 pm
Anyone know Oswalt’s career numbers against the Braves? They’re pretty surprising: 7 starts, 0 wins, 3 losses, 7.58 ERA, .354 BAA . . . not sure it really means anything, but interesting nonetheless . . .
chem
August 23rd, 2010
1:47 pm
Brad: Who starts for the braves in a 5 (or 7) game series and it what order? Certainly not Lowe?
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
1:48 pm
Hey Carl would you please let your fellow fans know that we are passionate about our baseball here in the south. I would also like to comment on how friendly the chat here is compared to your inquirer. I have been called many names by those great=RUDE fans, but it will all come out in the wash! Please note as well, that everyones time on the top will end, and I’m all in that these Braves will take care of business!
Darryl Blackberry
August 23rd, 2010
1:48 pm
The “it’s just a matter of time before they fold” defense won’t work for Atlanta and San Diego, no matter how unassuming their lineups may seem. I don’t think Philly fans understand this just yet, since they’re so used to winning over the past several years. (Reminds me a bit of the Braves’ attitude toward the Marlins back in the Nineties. “These guys simply CAN’T be winning! We’ve never even HEARD of most of them!”)
Barring further injuries, there’s no reason why the Braves won’t make the postseason. Once they get there, though, they’ll likely have to face several teams with a lot of magic/chemistry/swagger/special sauce/Your Name Here, and even the Braves’ great home record and propensity for dramatic comebacks might not be enough.
The good news: every other team (at least, every other team in the NL) has an Achilles heel, and maybe, just maybe the Braves can bite into it worse than the opposition can bite into theirs.
UKUGA
August 23rd, 2010
1:49 pm
Braves need to win the division and avoid San Diego in the 1st round.
Jon
August 23rd, 2010
1:50 pm
@Joseph, with all the up and down talks, I’m surprised how few times it’s degenerated into name calling. I do rather like this blog for that reason.
UKUGA
August 23rd, 2010
1:51 pm
The Braves play great at home. The Braves have 22 last at bat victories.
If both trends continue, then home field is extremely important to this Braves team, this year.
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
1:57 pm
Carl, you are delusional. Where were you when you fell out of 1st place in June??? Under a rock. Don’t give me the injury crap either because I don’t know if you noticed but we have lost ALL of our main producers to the DL at some point during the season and Chipper FOR the season. So BOO HOO on your injuries. The Phils are a good team, but guess what, the Braves are a good team PLUS they have mojo. I don’t know what it is but they win. If you think we are cowering to the MIGHTY Phils, think again and no amount of blog posts are going to change that.
Remember you have to do the job to COMPLETE the job.
TTTT-Thumbody Thed Thats Thupid!
August 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm
MB, think you’re confused. Al Gore says he invented baseball on the same day he invented the internet. Get your facts straight! BTW, as late as yesterday ESPN was saying the Braves and Phils have 3 games left, all in Philly. They think the season ends Sept. 30.
Jon
August 23rd, 2010
1:58 pm
@UKUGA, something like 38 come from behind victories with 22 wins in the final at-bat. Pretty nice statistics. It shows that, while we could be getting dominated by opposing starters, we eat up bullpens. Will we actually see that go to the playoffs where the level of competition is higher??
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
2:00 pm
In a best-of-five series, chem, I’d figure it’d be Hudson, Hanson and Jurrjens. In a best-of-seven, I’d say Lowe would start Game 4.
NCBravesFan
August 23rd, 2010
2:00 pm
I’m prety confident the Braves will make the playoffs. I’m not terribly confident they’ll go very far once they get there unless they tighten their defense up. It’s emerged as a key weakness that could really hurt them in October.
john
August 23rd, 2010
2:02 pm
To Craig Daliessio:
Not sure who will win the division this year. Phils are better on paper but the game is still played on the field.
I don’t think anyone has mentioned the 14 div. titles on the blog today except you so what are you barking about??
Lastly, the Philly fans are the worst fans in sports. Fair weather and as you have demonstrated overall jerks!!!
Mark Bradley
August 23rd, 2010
2:03 pm
I tend to agree, NC, with this caveat: I thought the Cardinals had no shot in 2006 after Jason Isringhausen got hurt (and St. Louis entered with 83 wins).
If you’re in, you have a shot. If you’re not, you don’t. I know it sounds simplistic, but that’s the truth of postseason play.
Innocent Bystander
August 23rd, 2010
2:09 pm
I dunno, Mark. I sure think home field throughout this year would translate into huge success for the Bravos. They had 10 home losses going into the ASG. That’s just nuts!!!
NCBravesFan
August 23rd, 2010
2:10 pm
Mark: I agree with you as well. If you’re in, you’ve got a chance. Hopefully they’ll play a clean game in the field and let their pitching do what it does so well.
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
2:15 pm
The playoffs scare me to death because of our offense, HOWEVER we have changed to become more patient and to working the count against opposing pitchers…not a good strategy against Hallady but against Hamels? Very good strategy and generally a sound strategy in the pressure cooker of the playoffs. You doubt me, look at the success the Yankees and Red Sox have had doing the same.
The team that scares me the most is St Louis, they have fantastic pitching and a good offense. They aren’t playing lights out right now so if they get hot at the end of the season….look out.
San Diego is just as likely as us to have an offensive brown out and I like our pitching just a little bit more. The Phils are formidable but if you keep’em close their bullpen is likely to implode. Its been good of late but they haven’t played many stout offenses either.
I just don’t want Bobby Cox to head off into retirement like Sweet Loser Pinella. That was almost sad.
michael
August 23rd, 2010
2:18 pm
with all said and heard, the truth is, because of the braves being so much of a better team at home, finishing the season with the best record possible, winning the east along the way, is vital for post season success. quite plainly, with home field advantage, no one really stands a chance against atlanta, assuming the quality of the braves’ play at the ted continues to shine.
Denny
August 23rd, 2010
2:19 pm
Bradley, you make a mistake in assuming that both these teams are going to make the playoffs and advance past the NLDS. But you have made a career out of poor predictions and senseless drivel, so I guess you are just staying consistent.
Dr. Warren
August 23rd, 2010
2:20 pm
Are we forgetting history? Didn’t the Braves lose the NLCS to the Padres in ‘98? Not that I like SD, but how does the team with the NL’s most wins not get mentioned in this article?
JoeFan
August 23rd, 2010
2:24 pm
The Braves have enough pitching to squeeze into the wildcard. However, if the don’t get better timely hitting then they could fall short. Honestly believe the Phils will beat the Braves for the division title by 3-4 games, just because their overall lineup is stronger. Actually I wouldn’t be surprised if the Phils aren’t in 1st place by this Thursday.
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
2:27 pm
you think you folks down in the ATL would be able to sell out a playoff game if you get in?
Absolutely PATHETIC!!!!….. With the kind of year the braves are having to have the lack of support the get from the locals is embarrassing.
o yea, GO Phils!
anotherdawg
August 23rd, 2010
2:29 pm
Anybody that doesn’t think Infante deserves to be an all-star, or play everyday, is a nut! Hits for average, has some power, and can play any position.
Sonny Clusters
August 23rd, 2010
2:29 pm
We was very cautious all during our shift today because when we arrived at work somebody had left us an egg sandwich with our name on it.
Charles
August 23rd, 2010
2:32 pm
Your article is correct if the only goal for this team us “getting to the post season”. If that’s a success for you that’s great. But I think Bobby, Chipper and the fans deserve more than a wild card team whose road record makes it much more likely to crash and burn if it must play the majority its playoff games on the road. Thus, winning the division is very important unless all you want is to get to the playoffs and celebrate just getting there.
Phil
August 23rd, 2010
2:32 pm
We’re going into the playoffs behind the 8 ball with Cox as our manager. Everybody knows his record, the Losingest manager in the history of baseball post season. That’s a pretty big mountain to climb.
I hope our players can overcome that.
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
2:38 pm
did i miss something? does the season end at the end of august now?
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
2:39 pm
Pierce, YOUR fan base is pathetic, as well as RUDE, CRUDE and OBNOXIOUS. If I lived in Philly I wouldn’t go to a game just BECAUSE of the fans…you guys are LOSERS in life!!
Why don’t you suck on a can of Cheez Whiz and and get a Beef Steak enema, jackhole!
Chief pitchanono
August 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm
Good call Mark, I agree it will be braves vs. the phills for the NLCS. I think the Braves will hold on and win this division and yes it will probably come down to the final two series with the phills to decide the winner/wildcard. I see those last six games between them being a little preview of the NLCS. More than likely the teams will split those six games with the home team winning one series each. With us haveing the last series at home I think the Braves endup winning the division. Which is the way it should be. If our pitching holds up I see us winning a seven game series, minor could be our ace in the hole as far as philly is concerned, I could see them haveing allot of trouble with him. With that said, we have allot of baseball to be played yet and anything could happen, hopefully no more significant injuries to eithher team, and may the best team win. Go Braves!
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
2:42 pm
No it doesn’t Pierce so quit acting like you guys are the Kings of baseball.
Casey Stinkle
August 23rd, 2010
2:43 pm
We have been hearing your crap Carl ever since the all-star break. We will catch you by this weekend…we have better pitching, defense,….blah blah blah. Well we are almost to Labor Day, and the Phils are still in the rear view mirror ( I know, objects are closer than they appear, right?)
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm
@Pierce- you got what you wanted, Puppet Please!! is now fired up and doing the same thing that MOST of your fans do on the inquirer! There is a lot of baseball to play, but Pierce I have one question for you. Would you have ever thought that on the 23rd of August you would not be in 1st place? Trailing the Braves at that? That’s why we follow this game, quit mouthing off and let’s wait and see what happens!
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm
way to go puppet. i’m the one that is pathetic right?
read through your comment again and see who the obnoxious rude crude one is?
not me bro i dont need to talk like that to prove a point
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
2:45 pm
the 2-time defending NL Champions are just the better team – we will all see that over the final month – the Braves have done a good job of keeping first place warm
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm
its great that the braves fans are so happy to be in first in August – its a shame for them the season doesn’t end now
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
2:46 pm
John Kruk is here now! Thank’s Kruk for your insight!
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
i am not mouthing off. i just know its along season.
and i am not surprised the phillies are not in first place with all the injuries they have had this season.
this will be only the 7th time all year tonite there regular position players will be in the line-up together not to mention the struggles of the bull pen. i will take where we are at right now and run with it
Jesse Stone
August 23rd, 2010
2:49 pm
Phil- And Reggie Jackson is the career leader in strikeouts by a batter. What’s your point?
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
2:49 pm
@Casey Stinkle
The Phillies don’t HAVE to win the division….that’s what the W.C is for. I don’t think the Phils have to “catch” the Braves when the lead could be 1 in the loss column at the end of the day.
W.C or division title, I still think the Phils would beat the Braves in a NLCS matchup.
Your late inning comebacks are only covering up your flaws. One of which is the fact that you don’t score off the opposing starting pitcher. I’m not sure if you’re can rely on late inning comebacks when you get in the playoffs but crazier things have happened.
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
2:51 pm
Pierce- should the Phillies be in 1st place now? If they don’t catch the Braves which I realize you think is not possible, what would that say about your beloved Phillies?
James
August 23rd, 2010
2:51 pm
Braves and Cardinals will meet in the NLCS. Braves will beat the Cardinals and face the Tampa Bay Rays in the World Series. Braves will defeat the Rays. Braves 2010 World Series Champions!
DawgDad
August 23rd, 2010
2:53 pm
I don’t think I’m mistaken in noting the level of angst among Braves fans has subsided remarkably in the span of one week. Last week at this time you’d find 500 gut-wrenching posts on every Braves thread talking about what to do about first base, replacing Chipper, getting more power, canning Ankiel, fire Pendleton, Cox can’t manage, etc. etc. Look what ONE little waiver deal accomplished in terms of perception! Don’t think that didn’t register in the Braves and Phillies locker rooms, either. If Lee can rack up a few RBI’s in Colorado and the Braves come home with another series win I think we’ll see a very confident and relaxed team heading into the stretch run.
Casey Stinkle
August 23rd, 2010
2:53 pm
No Pierce, they probably will not sell out because every year the Braves have gotten in, they seem to draw the afternoon games, while Ny and Boston get the prime time games (ESPN’s boys). Most people down here have a job, and just can’t up and go to the games like most rust belt retirees.
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
2:55 pm
Carl- please don’t forget about your bullpen which is propted up on Lidge. I will say this, “IF” LIdge proves me wrong and stays solid after his next blown save, then your Phillie’s will be tough for sure. I just do not think he has it in him. If his armour gets chinked he seems to fall fast and HARD!
ICEMANcometh10
August 23rd, 2010
2:56 pm
HEY PIERCE
How soon we forget Phillies fans that BEFORE a couple of few years ago you DIDN’T SELL OUT A SHOE. You are not the franchise you think you are and if you think it is don’t ever blog again in this town.
Hey dude look at your history and you will go hide………………LOL
B.Packenwood
August 23rd, 2010
2:56 pm
If you just jinked us Mark I am going to kick you in the berries.
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
2:58 pm
it’s going to be a fun month!
DawgDad
August 23rd, 2010
2:59 pm
“I just don’t want Bobby Cox to head off into retirement like Sweet Loser Pinella. That was almost sad.”
No, that was TOTALLY PATHETIC!
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
2:59 pm
@Joseph
If Lidge implodes down the stretch then of course we’ll have issues but he’s looked solid as of late. He’s been loctaing his fastball well and sacrificing some speed.
Carl
August 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
@Icemancometh10
Do you really want to be bring up history and past failures?
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:01 pm
i’nm not saying we sold out every game before this run but if we had a first place team that is playing as good as the braves are this season you bet your ass the ball park would be sold out.
Ramblin Wrecker
August 23rd, 2010
3:04 pm
Mark,
Who exactly says not to draft college pitchers?
Roger Clemens
Tim Hudson
Stephen Strasburg
Tim Lincecum
David Price
I think that’s just stupid. And if anybody’s opinion should be valued about evaluating pitching talent…it should be the Braves.
Jair Jurrjens – acquired for an old Edgar Renteria
Tommy Hanson – 22nd round
Kris Medlen – 10th round
Jonny Venters – 30th round
Peter Moylan – signed off Austrailian WBC team
Point is, pitching is pitching, regardless of where they are drafted from or when they are drafted. And Mike Minor was a U.S. teammate of Strasburg, and was reportedly more impressive against their opponents than the wunderkind.
What I’ve seen is a confident kid who is composed and has stuff that he knows how to use beyond his years. I don’t care what his ceiling is…because right now he misses bats and can win. What else does he need to do?
Jameytime
August 23rd, 2010
3:06 pm
ATLANTA SPORTS FANS ARE BACK!!!!! http://TwitPWR.com/OcA/
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:06 pm
i don’t need to look at the history, i’ve lived the history of the most losingest franchise in sports. believe me! and i have enjoyed myself the last four years!
Denny
August 23rd, 2010
3:08 pm
At least when we blow the division lead next month and then miss out on the wild card we can all blame Bradley for his cursing us with ignorant prognostications.
JASon
August 23rd, 2010
3:10 pm
If the Phillies have home field advantage in a series, they will win. They have been untouchable (suspiciously) at home since July 8th. The Braves need to win the division or else it will be the Phillies in the World Series.
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
3:11 pm
Respect that Pierce- I live and die with the Braves no matter what! It sure is good to be alive in 1st Place right now!!!
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
3:21 pm
James @2:51…I like the way you think..my bro in law is a big cards fan, and i have relatives in St. Pete…I could make some fun phone calls..Go Bravos!!
On a side note…any guesses on how much Tigers now ex got in the divorce settlement?…Hell be playing for a LONG time is my guess
NCBravesFan
August 23rd, 2010
3:23 pm
Is anyone else tired of hearing the Phillies’ fans whine about the team’s injuries? As if we haven’t had our own issues to deal with (Chipper, Glaus, Prado, Heyward, Medlen)?
You’re in second place – deal with it and quit making excuses!
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm
I’m glad Pierce has pointed out the attendance at Braves games – that is really quite sad – they have been in first place the majority of the season and they only average about 30,000 fans – i heard there was less than 20,000 at a game last week??? what kind of a joke city is atlanta?
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
3:27 pm
hey NCBraves fan moron – the Phillies injuries are a fact, we were the most injured team in MLB, BY FAR, this year — it is great that we are only 2.5 out, that is a great place to be – get ready to give up first, should take about 2 weeks or so…
Phil Up My Cup
August 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm
hey ohhhhhh…Phillies are coming! Phillies are coming! What will the rednecks do???
Blackberry Cobbler
August 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm
The Braves still need more power (Lee was 1 for Chicago) and the Braves pitching is really suspect ala Lowe and Hanson.
MitchC
August 23rd, 2010
3:29 pm
Mark, I agree with you that the Braves and Phillies will likely meet in the NLCS. While I see your point about not thinking the Braves will blow their NL East lead, and I want to agree with you, my feeling is, that, if the Braves want to have a chance of winning the NLCS, they CANT blow their division lead, because, as we know, the division champ has home field advantage in such a series with the wild card team, and, the Braves are a very poor road team. Playing a potential Game Seven of an NLCS at Turner, looks a lot better to me then playing a potential Game Seven of an NLCS in Philadelphia.
The Braves do play a lot of weak teams down the stretch. (The Metropolitans seven times, Washington two more series) Hopefully, that will work to their advantage. Considering that Philly has all their people healthy now, it wouldnt surpise me a bit to see them get very hot.
That last weekend in Atlanta might mean something, as far as who wins what. Obviously, after five years, I just want the Braves to get to the playoffs. It would make me feel a lot better, though, knowing it was as the NL East champ, than as a wild card.
Duluth's Finest
August 23rd, 2010
3:29 pm
Let’s Go Braves – Let’s start selling out the Ted so these Philthies fans can shut up
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
What difference does home field mean for the Braves anyway, we all know you won’t sell the game out – the stands will be full of apathy as they always are in hotLanta.
Keith
August 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
Your blog accentuates the point of needing homefield advantage @ Turner Field…I usually don’t say this, but I’m not ready for football yet…not quite anyway.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:32 pm
niiice to see the Phils faithful out in full force down here – - BOOM…BOOM…BOOM…the Phillies are bearing down on you…BOOM…BOOM…BOOM…
Keith
August 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
I love how the Phillies continue to use their time trolling the Braves’ blogs…humors me.
joe
August 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
Mark, the fact that the Braves can go into an offensive funk doesn’t shock me (given that most of their team hits .250) but the fact that the Phillies can go into a scoring drought for games at a time is a surprise! This even happened earlier in the season before their rash of injuries….
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
there’s no excuses here you guys are in first now and deserve it.
we have had our struggles this year injuries aside.
Keith
August 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
*Phillies’ fans*
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
I have a bet with a scumbag Yankee fan friend of mine that the Phillies will win the NL East by 5 or more games — my only worry is resting players in that last week – oh well
NCBravesFan
August 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
The Krukker: nice way to call names when it’s pointed out to you that you aren’t the only ones who have had injuries. Stop whining and play ball. We’ll see who wins out in September.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm
shut your mouth Keith and take your medicine – The Bravos are about to feel what its like to be steamrolled by a real baseball team – ya’ll better hope for the Wildcard ya hear?
NCBravesFan
August 23rd, 2010
3:36 pm
Pierce @ 3:33 – thanks. I have a lot of respect for the Phils and it should be a great race to the finish.
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
3:37 pm
NCBraves moron – not every team has only had their starting lineup in for 7 games this year – every one of our stars has been on the DL for over 2 months combined – and yet the Braves could only build a 2.5 game lead – sucks for you
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
3:39 pm
NCBraves moron – its great that you respect the Phils and Pierce, and its great that Pierce chooses to be sooo nice to “ya’ll” — but I wont be- I have no respect for a fan base that can’t sell out a stadium for a first place team and is 13th in attendance – THAT IS JUST PATHETIC
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:39 pm
man, i love this time of year
NCBravesFan
August 23rd, 2010
3:40 pm
The Krukker: who cares? Stop whining and let’s play ball!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:40 pm
You tell them Krukker, and all that with only one ball –> My man!
Pat's Rockett
August 23rd, 2010
3:41 pm
Oswalt’s career numbers against the Braves ……………………
0-3 7.58 ERA……………………. And the Phils are relying on him ?
Next !!!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:42 pm
I love this career numbers garbage – only a simpleton would use that argument – I wouldn’t want to face either Roy in October
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:43 pm
Krukker, it was actually 18,000 fans that they drew for a game last week – thats Marlins territory
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:43 pm
pat how many times is oswalt going to face the braves again this year 1? 2 maybe? that’s an obselete point?
try to come up with something else!
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm
Weve beat the phils 7 out of 12 games….whats your lame excuse for that?…blah blah blah….your mommy has your afterschool snack ready.
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm
bunch a good ole boys down there in hotLanta – got better things to do like chew some tobaccy and stare out into a field
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:46 pm
Mets fans said the same thing in 2007 and 2008 when they had a winning REGULAR SEASON record against the Phillies – REGULAR SEASON – hahahahaha!!! This is the real season starting ya’ll, and the 2-time defending NL Champions are coming ya, ya hear??
Milburn Drysdale
August 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm
Daliessio, Jethro better win that NL East, or Mr Clampett is taking all of his money out of my bank and heading back to the hills. Don’t make me send Miss Hathaway to have her way with Cole Hamels and that Doc Holiday crook. She will add 2 runs to their ERA immediately.
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm
we win the next 6 and thats 10 out of 18 for the phils!
blah. blah blah blah blah
THERE ARE STILL SIX WEEKS LEFT!
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
3:48 pm
oh my gosh Bravissimo, you are 7-5 against the Phillies this year, that’s amazing, i’m so happy for you – the freight train is coming for you – are you ready??
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:49 pm
I hate arguing with simple folk who bring up regular season records
gator32301
August 23rd, 2010
3:50 pm
IIRC, Keith Law never said Minor threw his fastball at 88, he said he threw it regularly in the 90-92 range which was accurate at the time. He has since stated that things are different if he can keep throwing it it in the 93-95 range.
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
3:51 pm
Phillies.Class of the NL- What place are you in today? I know it doesn’t matter, but what place are you in today? I know your team is going to steamroll us, but what place are you in today? I know we don’t sell out, but WHAT place are you in today? I know your team has had injuries, but what place are you in today? Insult all you like about the south, but WHAT PLACE ARE YOU IN TODAY?
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
3:51 pm
BOOM…BOOM…BOOOM
Philadelphia Phillies
2007 NL EAST CHAMPIONS
2008 NL EAST, NLDS, NLCS, AND WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS
2009 NL EAST, NLDS, AND NLCS CHAMPIONS
THE JUGGERNAUT IS COMING FOR WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY THEIRS!!!
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
3:52 pm
atlanta braves
chirp…chirp…chirp
i have nothing
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:53 pm
Joseph, the Phillies, today, are in second place 2.5 games behind the atlanta braves
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
3:53 pm
Pierce you WIll not win all six games head to head, please get your head out of the clouds!
Duluth's Finest
August 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
i’m still upset that we were in first place and gave up 3 prospects for a malcontent with a bad back — how does this make sense?
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
The Braves will win, look at the season series. The Braves have the edge in pitching, bench, coaching and the great intangible–this is THEIR YEAR!
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
3:55 pm
Thanks Phillies,Class of the NL I thought we were looking at some different standings and we can read in the south!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:55 pm
nice fightins!!! simple fools need simple arguments!
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:55 pm
just like we will not win the division, hell we might not even make the playoffs. might as well pack it up and go home now
john
August 23rd, 2010
3:56 pm
fightins,
Like I said earlier, Philly fans are a bunch of classless jerks. Thanks for helping me prove my poin.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:56 pm
I may actually feel bad when we TAKE this from these poor bravos fans, even though they can’t sell out their stadium, they genuinely think they have a team that can compete with THEE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES.
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:56 pm
“The team to Beat!”
——- Jimmy Rollins
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
Never said that if the PHILLIES don’t make the playoffs, you will remind me of the METS!
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
john boy, its not classless to know that you are better than the competition
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
to the philles fans here: looks like we won’t have our opening day line-up tonight. Charlie has decided to give Polanco the night off. Valdez will play in his place
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
The Phillies have the better manager (love ya chollie), the far better catcher (Chooooooch!), the superior starting rotation, and are far better at virtually every position player – the braves have a better bullpen, and thats it ya’ll
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH
Milburn Drysdale
August 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
Krukker, maybe that freight train is just your fat azz, and objects in the mirror are NOT as close as they appear. Gonna be funny when the ABs take the division and the Phils come up 2 games short of the Giants or Cards in the wild card, which your own manager said last week the Phils aren’t interested in.
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
fightins you are in 2nd PLACE!!! Until otherwise how are you better?
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:01 pm
hahahaha Milburn, simple folks, it takes, simple folks, it takes, simple folks….
The Phillies are Coming!!!!!
K.K.
August 23rd, 2010
4:01 pm
Bobby: is time yet for Minor go back to Gwinnett and for me come back to rotation?
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
4:02 pm
well Joseph, we don’t judge our season on 8/23/10 – we know what our boys are going to do – and you will come out on the wrong end of that
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:02 pm
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH!!!!!!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm
ya’ll are great because ya’ll probably think that Brian McCann is a better catcher than Chooch Ruiz – but when you’re smart and know baseball like your friends from the North, you know that Chooch is the best catcher in baseball not named Mauer…
CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH!!!!!!
john
August 23rd, 2010
4:06 pm
Thus far you haven’t proved you are better than the competition. Look at the standings. Or maybe you can’t read?? Until and IF you pass the Braves maybe you shouldn’t be posting that you are better.
UKUGA
August 23rd, 2010
4:06 pm
Speaking of sell-outs . . .
Can we go ahead and petition MLB not to have the opening game of the NLDS at 4:00 on a Tuesday?
Those afternoon games always make Atlanta fans look bad, and feed the myth that Atlanta is a bad sports town.
Skeezix
August 23rd, 2010
4:06 pm
My hope is that yesterday gave young Jason a lot of confidence and from now thru October he will be knocking the cow hide off the ball. He could be the difference maker we’ve been looking for on offense.
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
4:07 pm
@Milburn Seems like your manager isnt interested in managing once he gets to the post season,.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:08 pm
The Philadelphia Phillies would have no problem selling out a 4:00 game – Braves fans look bad because they are bad
MitchC
August 23rd, 2010
4:09 pm
Phillies fans, why do you have to come to the Braves fans site, and act as you do? From 2007 to 2009, I gracefully admitted the Phillies were the better team, and accepted it.
Honestly,while I’m obviously hoping the Braves hang on to the NL East, I wouldnt be devestated if they won the wild card. My original prediction at the beginning of the season was that the Phillies would win the NL East easily, and the Braves would get the wild card. A certain Mr Bradley predicted even worse, that the Braves would finish in third place.
I dont think the Phillies will “steamroller” the Braves by any means. Both of these teams are too good to just roll over and give up. Honestly, I think that the Braves have much better pitching, and a better closer, than the Phillies, but, the Phillies have a much more potent lineup, when healthy.
It will surpise me if either team collapses. My call is: Whoever wins the NL East, it will be decided within the last week of the regular season, especially with all the home games against weaker teams that the Braves have left.
mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache
August 23rd, 2010
4:09 pm
@ Phillies, your phils are not a dynasty, so get over yourself! BTW, your beloved Jim Fregosi, is a scout for the braves organization. Also, you still have to play out the games.
michael
August 23rd, 2010
4:09 pm
phillies…
i’d like to see the stat line that makes ruiz better than mccann. this isn’t just being a braves fan. if you look at the past six seasons, no one outside mauer has been even close to producing the offensive numbers that mccann has.
Mitchell
August 23rd, 2010
4:10 pm
Bradley, don’t you start up with more of your predictions.
That’s the last thing we need.
Rob
Rob
August 23rd, 2010
11:42 am
What a great day Sept 11 is going to be
It’s been a pretty long time since anybody has uttered such a sentence. That’s what college football does to people I guess.
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:11 pm
How is Atlanta being a bad sports town a myth?? Seems pretty factual to me
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:13 pm
michael, look up Ruiz’s playoff stats and then compare them to your beloved McCann’s — hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Senor Octobre!!!!!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:15 pm
Krukker, Atlants is not just a bad sports town, it is a HORRIBLE sports town – trust me – its just a whole different world than the Northeast sports scene…
James
August 23rd, 2010
4:16 pm
Braves got some issues with their pitching staff (Derek Lowe & Tommy Hanson). If those guys don’t start pitching better the Braves are going to be in trouble.
Milburn Drysdale
August 23rd, 2010
4:21 pm
I guess those 30,000 fans must be doing something right. 44-17 is alot better than the Yanks or the Phils or Bosox or the Rays. Come up with something else better than that Krugger. When the Phils don’t make the playoffs this year, 30,000 will be a good night next year. Bye now.
Pierce
August 23rd, 2010
4:23 pm
no not the second place phillies the back to back defending nl chamion phillies
Kane337
August 23rd, 2010
4:23 pm
Are the Braves going to give Minor some bunting tips? That attempt yesterday was horrid. I had better bunting mechanics when I was 10 years old.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:24 pm
hahaha Puppet Please — the Phillies bearing down on you is really getting to you isn’t it? I would freak out too if i was a braves fan and only had a 2.5 game lead on the Phillies the way this season has gone….
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:25 pm
The Juggernaut Philadelphia Phillies are puppet please’s worst nightmare, he’s freaking out!
The Phillies are the BoogieMan, they’re coming for ya’ll…..
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:27 pm
you know, i’ve always thought it a bit odd, the college football obsession – kind of like those creepy little towns where people are WAY too into high school football – just weird
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:28 pm
18,000 to a baseball game for a first place team – yeah, that’s passion
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:29 pm
hahaha, rednecks and their college football, gotta love it
NCBravesFan
August 23rd, 2010
4:30 pm
“Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
I look forward to the next six weeks and the chance for the Braves to get back to the playoffs. You all have fun in the meantime.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:33 pm
The Atlanta Braves, 18,000 Proud, Catch the Fever!!
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
4:34 pm
always nice to deliver a beatdown on these simpletons – safe bet that we overtake the braves within 2 weeks – section 136 for the NLDS – yeah baby…
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
4:36 pm
Hey Phillies, you’re ones looking up Jackholes.
I’ll worry when you 4 up with 3 to play in the Ted, until then you’re just one Lidge away from spending the post season with your troll wife.
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
4:36 pm
i will tell you one thing I hate the Phillies for though, when we make the NLCS my tickets are getting bumped to the second level, i don’t really appreciate that – oh well, thats what happens when your team is a juggernaut i guess
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
4:37 pm
Why is everyone so scared of the Phillies. Even on their “historic run” and during our demise its been 2 years since theyve won the season series against Atlanta and how many years in the past 5 have they won it 2? We flat out know how to beat the Phils we lost the past 5 years not taking care of teams like the Nats and Marlins.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:38 pm
This guy Puppet Please is unraveling right before our very eyes, what’s with this guy? – i guess the stress of hoping you win the NL East versus the confidence of knowing you’re going to win the NL East like the Philadelphia Phillies is getting to this dimwit…
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:40 pm
hahahaha, another braves fan with the season series argument – it never gets old – i love it
hey the phillies beat the twins in spring training – man we really own them — October is the real season my simple friends
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
4:40 pm
Philly fan, I’m not worried and I’m not arguing. Good for you that you can go to a baseball game. Remind me to give you a cookie for dragging your drunk ass out of the parking lot so you can puke on the guy in fron of you. Wow, I really feel inferior.
You guys are in second and you have a lousy city with lousy fans….I could not be MORE fulfilled.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:41 pm
fightins – call and complain, same thing happening to me, if you raise enough hell about it they shouldn’t move your seats — I am a full season ticket holder though, not sure about you
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
4:42 pm
14 game sunday plan – but i’ll give it a try
GO PHILS!
Puppet Please!!
August 23rd, 2010
4:43 pm
Enlighten me again what makes me a redneck for supporting my college over the stupid team of the city I live in? Which is more pathetic Philly PS-105 dropout. Did you get off early from the workshop today?
Milburn Drysdale
August 23rd, 2010
4:43 pm
Well, those 18,000 or 30,000 (you guys are all over the place)have seen their team win 44 times vs 17 losses. Who else can say that? And yes we rednecks love our college football. Now you guys get ready for that big Rutgers game tonight. There will be about 18-30 thousand in attendence.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:44 pm
puppet please, you are too much — the braves are like the mouse that the cat has been playing with all year – when the Phillies want to exert their will and stomp the braves they will do so, and you will be able to witness it (although not at the stadium obviously) – so do they give playoff tickets away for free in atlanta? how does it work?
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:45 pm
college football always has been and always will be for the undereducated, we know you didnt go to college friend
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
4:46 pm
so do we sweep the ’stros??? a 4 game sweep is always tough…thoughts??
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:47 pm
minimum 3 of 4 from the Astros – that should have us either .5 or 1.5 out by friday I think
Bob Horners texting while driving issues
August 23rd, 2010
4:48 pm
Phillies, a$$ of the NL – A couple divisions and one WS title- wow, Yanks got nuthin on you. Division titles get dull after 14 or so. Yeah postseason flops have left Atl fans a little jaded. People down here are more into college football. Big deal.
Also-per attendence- Atl is not a superlarge city. Most folks live in the burbs-Aint no train from Snellville, or Hog Mt. to the park.
That said-Im willing to bet this Braves team sells out the Ted for the playoff games.
Will
August 23rd, 2010
4:48 pm
I believe that the pennant race will be decided this week. Know it is early but I just have a feeling that things will shake out over the next six to seven games and who ever is in first place then will end up in first place. Just a hunch!
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:49 pm
haha – Bob Horner is willing to “bet” that they sell out the Ted for the playoff games —–> a sad statement in itself
Milburn Drysdale
August 23rd, 2010
4:50 pm
Phillies Class, dude, maybe you better quit while your still behind! Puppet Please is literally eating your lunch.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:50 pm
you know whats sad – 14 division titles and only 1 world series – that must be it – that’s where the apathy comes from
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
4:51 pm
You guys are a riot! Please stop back by each day,it’s entertaining. I know you won’t if your sure fire plans don’t come together that’s a fact!
taylor
August 23rd, 2010
4:51 pm
All of offense has to do is keep producing until game 162, then just let the pitching take us home. But I do believe this race will go down until the final three games at The Ted against Philly. Win or lose, those three games are going to be INSANE!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
4:52 pm
that fat redneck better get his hands off of my lunch – i’ve got some chew for him if he wants that…
Milburn Drysdale
August 23rd, 2010
4:52 pm
Fightin, you got a four game with the Stros coming up? Hmm…you split if you’re lucky!
Bob Horners texting while driving issues
August 23rd, 2010
4:52 pm
A$$ of NL- heard your family was upset that you pulled a little jail time, for puking on the little girl. What the heck did they expect-a stern lecture?
fightins
August 23rd, 2010
4:52 pm
nice Phillies – haha
Will
August 23rd, 2010
4:52 pm
14 division titles and one world series win! @ Phillies fan – 14 titles is better than 14 straight losing seasons.
Will
August 23rd, 2010
4:53 pm
Just saying!
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:54 pm
how can those final 3 games be insane? what…18,000 on their feet going crazy? thats so intimidating
18,000 Strong
August 23rd, 2010
4:55 pm
Hola Phillies fans – Good Afternoon.
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
4:55 pm
A wise man once said pride cometh before the fall. I felt so confident in the mid 90’s, but sports will humble you eventually. So glad to get to have these conversations! Baseball means something to Atlanta again!
18,000 Strong
August 23rd, 2010
4:56 pm
I am the Braves attendance, who wants to speak the $hit of me, huh? I and 17,999 friends are coming for you
Will
August 23rd, 2010
4:57 pm
18,000 strong – Hola Phillies fans and Sayonara Phillie fans. That is what is going to happen shortly.
43,500 + standing room only every night
August 23rd, 2010
4:57 pm
I am the Phillies attendance – I will crush you and your dreams
Will
August 23rd, 2010
4:58 pm
Oh yeah, one of the 17,999!
43,500 + standing room only every night
August 23rd, 2010
4:58 pm
I will break you!
Will
August 23rd, 2010
4:59 pm
Is it possible that the Phils may not even make the playoffs at all? Just sayin!
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
4:59 pm
wow, the golden unicorn, a braves fan that has actually been to the stadium
Ryan
August 23rd, 2010
4:59 pm
Mark – The Phils aren’t exactly a lock for the playoffs. Actually according to baseball prospectus’ post season probabilty the Cards and Phils are basically neck and neck, even though the Phils have a higher wild card chance. I think that’s mostly because the Phils have more games on the road remaining on their schedule and are one of the few NL playoff teams that have a remaining schedule with a win % above 500.
skyler
August 23rd, 2010
5:00 pm
please stop jinxing the braves…if it happens, it happens
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
5:02 pm
Choooooooooooch…
18,000 Strong
August 23rd, 2010
5:03 pm
Hola Phillies fans, I am a sad number am I not?
Bob Horners texting while driving issues
August 23rd, 2010
5:04 pm
Not really Sukker-It is a bummer to win 14 division title and only one WS. The Braves are gonna have to put out a better product- this aint Philly- we live in a nice place- Five hours to FLA beaches, 30 minits to the lake- an hour to the mountains.
Heck, I can be at a AAA Braves game in 20 minits. I will go to a couple Braves games a year. If I lived in a crappy northeastern city- yeah I would hop on the train, buy some cheap seats and go every chance I could.
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:09 pm
When i want to see Philly fans I watch the Jersey Shore. I live in Atlanta and i’ve been to at least 50 games this year and every single one of them had over 30,000, if we played in a little league park like citizens bank it’d be sold out. Now go crawl back into bed with snooki and put on some bon jovi,
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:10 pm
bob horner, you are wrong, the seats aren’t cheap, we are one hour from the beach and two hours from the mountains – such a great part of the country
being a braves fan makes you apathetic, i know
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:11 pm
hmmmm, so CBP holds 43,500, so how would you sell it out Buckhead Brave – I don’t understand your redneck logic
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:12 pm
The jersey shore is hardly a beach, more like a trash heap.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:13 pm
fact: the Atlanta Braves are 13th in average attendance and had a game last week with only 18,000 fans
fact: that is PATHETIC
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:14 pm
i have been to new jersey/pa more times than i care to remember and TRUST me, if there is a place where the redneck culture lives on it is there. BIG difference between country and redneck, redneck is trash and thats what the northeast does best.
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:15 pm
you know why Phillies fan because Atlanta is one of the most educated cities on the PLANET and we have jobs that make it hard to get to a 7:00pm game. There is no whistle in my office to let me know its 5:00 like there is at your textile mill.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:16 pm
fact: the 2005-2010 Philadelphia Phillies are the Best Team to ever play Major League Baseball
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
5:16 pm
Does anyone know why CBP sells out? They are winning! What happens if that stops and the bandwagon comes to a halt? Please stop with all the fan junk, it’s means nothing! Wins and loses are all that matter. You Phillies’s fans on this blog got on the train in the last 3 years hugh? Enjoy the ride while you can!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:17 pm
fact: Atlanta is a truly horrible city with the worst fans in baseball
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:18 pm
and yet, the Braves are winning and still CANNOT sell out their stadium?
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
5:19 pm
5:16 Phillies,Class of the NL you must be 12 years old to post that comment. Are you kidding? You showed your hand!
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
5:19 pm
in all honesty then Joseph, what does it say about Atlanta that you cannot sell out your stadium when in first place? seriously?
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:19 pm
hahaha OH MY GOD now thats funny.
A glorified Barry Bonds at 1st base. Other teams flash in the pan trash like Jayson Werth. Extremely overrated Victorino and the even more overrated Cole Hammles, not quite the 1927 Yankees. Your best player Chase Utley wouldn’t even be an upgrade over his Atlanta counterpart at 2b.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:20 pm
its a fact Joseph, the BEST team to ever play – do you know what a fact is Joseph, you can’t argue a fact
Duluth's Finest
August 23rd, 2010
5:20 pm
Joe, know when someone is pulling your leg, come on…
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
5:21 pm
I actually don’t live in Georgia and yet make it to at least a few games a year. Sorry this attendence thing bothers you all so much, but Wins and Loses are all that matter!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:21 pm
ahhh the Phillies haters, gotta love them, so jealous
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:22 pm
hey Joe, learn to spell – its losses, not loses, didn’t go to college did ya joey?
Bruce Mac
August 23rd, 2010
5:22 pm
The Braves average 30,000 fans which is higher than Cincy, Texas, Tampa or San Diego (four other playoff teams if the season was over today). Philly has 2 Million more people and is 1 hour away from New York City. Does Atlanta have the best fan support? No, but far from the worst.
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:24 pm
Is your mom not home to regulate your internet? Why are you on an Atlanta blog? I wouldn’t go to the Philly Inquirer site because I don’t want to sift through the rape, murder, robbery, and all the other lovely stories you have up there to find your sports section. I also wouldn’t want to risk having to see an image of our latest piece of trash we sent away to you, Micheal Vick. You are the nations dump both figuratively and literally i suppose.
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
5:24 pm
thanks professor CLASSY!
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:25 pm
why would an MLB Ballplayer want to play in Atlanta? just an awful, dead, town with awful fan support
Braves #1
August 23rd, 2010
5:26 pm
Hey stupid Phillies fans, we are in first place, whose laffing now?
Joseph
August 23rd, 2010
5:26 pm
Thanks Classy!
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:26 pm
Yeah dead town so dead. You realize Newsweek determined that from 2000-2009 Atlanta was the fastest growing human settlement in the history of mankind. Yeah, nothing going on here. Moron.
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
5:26 pm
Braves #1
August 23rd, 2010
5:26 pm
Hey stupid Phillies fans, we are in first place, whose laffing now?
Wow, I mean, wow
Braves #1
August 23rd, 2010
5:27 pm
Why do the Phillies come on here when we are in first place and they are behind us?
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:29 pm
I tell you what. If you promise to stop sending any more of your HORRIFIC accents and even more HORRIFIC looking women down here then we will give you John Kincaide back. I can’t listen to the yankee screech on my radio anymore anyway.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:29 pm
Well, my dear Braves fan #1 out of 18,000 – we don’t care what place we are in, in ugust, unlike your simple brain…we care that our team wins when it matters, and we have a score to settle with the Yankees from last year – we really don’t even care about you
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
5:33 pm
Phillies come lately…go look up the stats for attendance of the Phils for 2000,2001 and 2002…they didnt even top 2,000,000. In 2000 the avg attendance was 19,911.
Guess that means theres a lot of fair weather fans there.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:37 pm
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
5:33 pm
Phillies come lately…go look up the stats for attendance of the Phils for 2000,2001 and 2002…they didnt even top 2,000,000. In 2000 the avg attendance was 19,911.
Guess that means theres a lot of fair weather fans there.
I was hoping someone would go there – at that point we were in a similar situation that the pirates are in right now – our front office was not trying to win, they were putting a subpar product on the field — Philadelphia fans are not stupid, we know when we are being hosed, and we will not stupidly throw our money behind that — BUT, when our front office and our team are putting forth the effort to win, then everything comes together
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:38 pm
I love how Phillies fan just flat out refuses to argue about actually facts regarding his sh**hole home town. Here is another one Forbes ranked Philadelphia the #20 most miserable city, in the same year Atlanta was the best city for singles and in the top 10 for educated individuals, places for recent grads, and places for young professionals. Oh yeah, but we are a dead horrible town that nobody would want to come near, except of course the droves of Philadelphians that continue to pollute every aspect of our daily life.
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
5:38 pm
because we don’t support futility – our management was not committed to winning for a lot of the 80s and 90s – what is the first place braves excuse??? look up the 1993 Phillies attendance playing in the horrible Vet you idiot.
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
5:39 pm
there are probably more yankees fans in atlanta than braves fans
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:41 pm
Again the idea of employment that doesn’t end with punching a time clock at the end of a shift completely eludes the mouth breathers. Let me try another approach, when you are paid in a number that has ANNUALLY after it, work doesnt ever really end aaaand you kinda have to give up 7:00 pm weeknight baseball games.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:42 pm
the only way Atlanta could boom is when educated Northeasters take over your city
Atlanta is an apathetic, transient city, as in, it has been taken over by outsiders and you can’t even fill your own ballpark
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:43 pm
Hey Buckhead Brave, lets grab some jerky and some chaw and call it a night ya hear?
Mike McDonald
August 23rd, 2010
5:43 pm
In this, the final quarter of the 2010 season, a two game lead for the Braves in the loss column is paper thin. It could vanish within a single three game series. The Braves have a sub-par outfield, certainly not of championship caliber by a long shot. (Cabrera, Ankiel, Hayward, Diaz, and Hinske). First base is far from fixed based on Lee’s performance at
the plate in his first three games and reports of his physical condition and a .250 BA.
Lowe has been shaky at best and Hanson hasn’t been too handsome of late.
Hudson has been great, JJ has been good and Minor has been a major surprise. Overall
the pitching has carried the team along with Infante and Prado performing sensationally. Prado is still not out of the woods with his broken pinky. McCann has looked dog-tired for too long and his numbers this year, particularly of late, reflect his fall-off, especially in the clutch.
I see no reason to believe that the outfield bats and defense will dramatically improve down the stretch when every AB and fielding act has to be superb.
The Braves have been very lucky that the Phils and the Mets have had their problems while their late inning miracle comebacks have defied gravity. Lady luck is fickle and doesn’t last for 162 games
While it is said that good pitching beats good hitting, the records clearly show that good pitching without above average defense at every position and a .275+ BA for position players will not win a spot in the playoffs, let alone win the Series.
The money squandered on Lowe, McLouth, Kawakami will come home to roost. As will the trades of Yunel and Kelly who should have stayed in the OF. A rag tag array of inexpensive retreads such as Lee, Glaus, Hinske, Gonzalez, Cabrera, Diaz, Saito and Moylan won’t be able to pick up the slack.
Bobby and his quirky decisions and toleration of the team’s inability to bunt will further
diminish the Braves’ run for the roses.
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
5:44 pm
Well…theres your answer then…Liberty (who owns the Braves) are cheapskates and have steadfastly refused to spend $$$. Theres been some really braindead moves made. Like selling the farm in the Texceira deal.
We havent been to the playoffs since ‘05…kinda makes it hard to convince me to go…not to mention that im 3+ hours from ATL.
But…Ill promise you the place will be full against your team.
just for comparison in 2001 while philly had 1,782,054 Atl had 2,823530.
So if your train derails…i suspect our attendance figures will flip flop.
Phil my Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
5:44 pm
2010 Phillies Payroll – $141,927,381
2010 Braves Payroll – $84,423,667
Looks like you paid $57,503,714 for two 2.5 less wins… hahahaha
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:45 pm
Outsiders? It is the mecca of southern culture, one of the few areas of the United States that actually has a distinct culture. Go into any office in Atlanta and there are people from Ole Miss, Bama, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, all the great southern schools and we are ALL Braves fans. You realize that the Atlanta Braves are the third most popular team ranked by SI after the Yankees and Red Sox, oh i’m sorry there I go dealing in actually documented facts again.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:47 pm
but Bravissimo – you are in FIRST PLACE and your attendance sucks – what is up with that??
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:49 pm
so documented by SI is a fact – I don’t care if a bunch of hicks who know nothing about baseball where braves hats – the proof is in the pudding – average attendance of 30,000 and a game last week with 18,000 – all for a first place team
The Braves are lame.
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:49 pm
Again, the notion of employment that doesn’t involve shirts with your name on it is too much for you to handle. There is no time clock, no whistle, when you have ya know, an annual salary. You aren’t paid by the hour, youre paid to work, whenever, wherever you have to. Atlanta is a white collar city with white collar jobs that don’t care if you have to miss a 7:00pm ball game on a Tuesday.
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
5:49 pm
I cant speak for metro Atlanta, I dont live there.
How often do people from say Harrisburg make it to Phillies games during the week?
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:50 pm
College football obsession is for redneck southerners – that’s a fact
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:51 pm
hahaha, Atlanta white collar – go pick some cotton buddy, I think its that you are in bed by 7:00 PM so you can be up by 3:00 AM
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:51 pm
Because we are a NATIONAL TEAM. The Yankees have had attendance problems since they priced out the blue collar crowd in their new stadium because their fans are spread out across the country. Boston only sells out their games because Fenway makes Bobby Dodd look like an English premier league stadium. National teams don’t have a purely local fan base to fill random weeknight games.
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
5:52 pm
Oh please…tell that to Penn St fans
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:52 pm
downtown Atlanta is run by the North
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:53 pm
we like Penn St, we are not obsessed about college kids like the SEC – Peyton Manning was damn near a saint in tennessee
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
5:53 pm
HAHAHA you are absolutely right DOWNTOWN Atlanta is run by the north. Thats why real Atlantans don’t go there i’m tired of all those northerners asking me for money.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
5:54 pm
the braves are lame, and their fans are lame – enough said.
Empty Seat at Turner Field
August 23rd, 2010
5:54 pm
hello?? can anyone hear me???
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
5:56 pm
BTW…you said u were a season tix holder…are u at the stadium?
A redneck dressed up as an empty seat or another actual empty seat at the TED?
August 23rd, 2010
5:59 pm
?
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
6:00 pm
Philadelphia’s contribution to American culture is some left over steak slices with cheese wiz on it. Our best contribution as any good southerner knows is our women in sundresses on Saturdays, and that trumps everything. If you can look at a picture of the girls in the Grove, Toomer’s corner, FL-GA, Tennessee-Bama, or any other SEC tailgate on a saturday and still tell me it is better up north then you are gay, 12 years old, or a fat ugly woman. oh and BTW do you know where all those girls are in the summer, yeah thats right, at Braves games.
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
6:01 pm
yo bud, good memory, I leave around 6:30 when I don’t sell my tickets for a hefty profit – hopping on the sub in about a half hour
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
6:04 pm
show a little respect, Philadelphia is the birthplace of the nation, say what you will, but respect that bud
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
6:05 pm
if you honestly think any self respecting southern girl can stand more than 5 min of that accent then you haven’t met very many.
BuckheadBrave
August 23rd, 2010
6:06 pm
Yeah well Atlanta is the birth place of a lot of those southern girls you like so much
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
6:12 pm
I do like those southern girls, and they love a northern guy, we are more complex, they dont like simple fools from the south for the most part, the smart ones anyway
alright, peace, i’m off to the CBP – Go Phils!
Coach (2011 or Bust)
August 23rd, 2010
6:13 pm
Braves and Phillies in the playoffs?
What I said about a week ago. But correct.
MitchC
August 23rd, 2010
6:17 pm
Phillies, what are you on? Seriously?
Best team to ever play major league baseball? OMG, are you for real?
Best modern dynasties. Yankees: Four WS titles in five years, including two against the Braves.
Braves: Like it or not. 14 straight division titles, five NL pennants, WS title, in fourteen years from 1991 to 2005.
No two teams even come close to the Braves and Yankees, with the exception of the Boston Red Sox, because of their WS wins in 2004 and 2007.
Phillies, try coming here, and popping off, after the Phillies win about eleven more division titles in a row, and three more World Series. Until then, their title, is just a “mini” run, just like your brain!
MitchC
August 23rd, 2010
6:22 pm
One of the Phillies fans talked about a “dynasty”. Are you guys for real?
Three division titles, and one World Series, oh wow!
A “Dynasty” is fourteen straight division titles, like the Braves had, or four World Series in five years, like the Yankees had from 1996 to 2000, or tweleve straight playoff appearances, as the Yankees had under Joe Torre from 1996 to 2007.
The Phillies? With three straight divisions, and one World Series. It will take you guys eleven more years, and three more WS wins, to match the Braves and Yankees streaks. Until then, all you guys have is a “mini” streak. I emphasize the word “mini”, just like most of your pea sized brains!
Please, come back, and post, when you all have something intelligent to say. Until then, all you sound like are a bunch of trolls clogging up our board!
MitchC
August 23rd, 2010
6:33 pm
To Mark: I apologize to you, Mark, if my comments seem sharp, and a bit uncivil. You know that normally, I post rational and intelligent comments. I just cant stand people who come to this board, solely for the purpose of making irrational, boasting, comments, that have nothing to do with reality.
The best way for both of these good teams to do their “Talking” is to win games on the field, and settle it there. The teams deserve it, as do the fans, with as well as both teams have played so far this season, through some major injuries for both sides.
Heath
August 23rd, 2010
6:54 pm
I love someone who writes at a 6th grade level calling others rednecks and telling them they didn’t go to college, “bud.”
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
6:57 pm
The Phillies have had major injuries, the Braves have had minor injuries
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
7:01 pm
Heath, you are a redneck ya’ll
Mr. Obvious
August 23rd, 2010
7:17 pm
I think the Braves will hold off the Phils, but only if they finish the season with a better won-loss record. Otherwise, I like the Braves’ chances for the wildcard, but only if they finish with a better won-loss record than the other wildcard contenders. If the Braves and the Phils meet in the NLCS, I like Atlanta’s chances, providing they manage to win 4 games out of a possible 7. And then the World Series…if the Braves somehow finish the storybook send-off for Bobby Cox with another trip to the Fall Classic, they will win it all if they can win 4 games before their AL opponents do the same. That’s where it gets real crazy, because in a seven game series, you can lose three games by an average score of 15-0 and it won’t matter if you can win four games by a single run.
The possibilities and uncertainties are mind-boggling, but that’s why we watch.
B.Packenwood
August 23rd, 2010
7:38 pm
Seems like the Phillies fans might want to be more concerned with Brett Myers striking them all out than the Braves blog. They could always throw batteries at Myers. Least deserving fans in the world.
Stanley Crowe
August 23rd, 2010
7:40 pm
Mike McDonald above makes some good points — the Braves outfield has to be a concern. I’m guessing that Jason and Melky step it up, and that Diaz and Hinske can come through enough in the clutch. Ankiel hasn’t really convinced me yet that his bat is going to be a huge asset, but he has speed and a great arm in center. The infield, I think, is solid offensively, and Derek Lee will be fine at first. On a contending club, he’ll want to end strong, and I believe he will. I count on McCann — but Mike’s point about his fatigue is a concern. I still think our rotation beats Philly’s, and I don’t underestimate Ostwalt and Hamels (whom I really admire as a competitor). I don’t like the dissing of Philly on these posts — they’re a darned good team (How can you not like Rollins, Werth, and Victorino; they won’t quit) but we play them well, and I think will continue to do so.
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
7:47 pm
The best catcher in the NL, Chooch Ruiz, hits a homer for the Phils first hit off of Myers – man, i love that little panamanian – CHOOOOOOOCH!!!!
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm
ok krukman…u asked about 93
Phils….3,137,674 avg. 38,737
Braves…3,884,720 avg.47,960
So theres your stats and why arent u at your game tonite loser?
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
7:56 pm
i only have the Sunday game package bravissimo the dope
i didnt ask you to compare attendance in 93, i mentioned that the phillies had strong attendance at a horrible stadium with a good team
the braves have a first place team, and a supposedly good stadium – why can you draw only 30,000 per night and be 13th in attendance – THAT IS AWFUL
The Krukker
August 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
Choooooch!!!!!
Heath
August 23rd, 2010
8:14 pm
http://onlineslangdictionary.com/definition+of/chooch
Asset
August 23rd, 2010
8:35 pm
Facing Halladay, Oswalt and Hamels those last 2 series won’t be exactly easy, but I don’t think it will be exactly hard. Will they struggle against Halladay? Probably. Will they hold their own with Hamels? Probably. Ask Oswalt what his history is versus the Braves. His highest ERA against any team comes from the Atlanta Braves.
tlj
August 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm
I agree with the phillies fans on paper they have a better team. Their offense is much better than ther braves, good defense, good starting pitching, average relief pitching and average bench. It appears they do have the better team.
Fortunately for the braves the games are not won on paper. This braves team has something the phillies do not have and it is magic. They are a team of destiny and I think they will find a way to beat the phillies and win the NL east.
Bravissimo
August 23rd, 2010
9:47 pm
Well where are all the “mighty” philly fans now that they LOST..ha
MitchC
August 23rd, 2010
10:08 pm
Phillies Loooooseeeeee!
Heath
August 23rd, 2010
10:10 pm
Carlos Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! El Caballo! I hear Chooch went up to him after the game and said “Show me how to play baseball, Daddy!”
Phillies, Joke of the NL
August 23rd, 2010
10:17 pm
fact: $140 million payroll and can’t beat a team that’s given up on the year
B.Packenwood
August 23rd, 2010
11:06 pm
Santa isnt safe in Philly tonight.
voice of reason
August 23rd, 2010
11:54 pm
when was hamels ever dominating watched the nats cuff him around the other dayy dominating wasnt the word that came to mind unglued kid did mabe hesa banging jen too lol
Bradley Jinx
August 24th, 2010
12:06 am
“Braves and Phillies: They’ll be seeing one another in the NLCS”
or, in other words, the Braves won’t make it and the Phillies will be swept in the first round.
Baldemar Huerta
August 24th, 2010
12:33 am
Hello 1993!
Henry
August 24th, 2010
9:14 am
Lee has hit 248 with 8 homers this year , he ias 1 for 14 with braves. bobby Cox was overruled , but is proving to be right .
Mr. . Thomas Anthony "The Taxman Cometh" Jones, SR
August 24th, 2010
10:25 am
Jason Heywerd, Ryan Howard, and Jimmy Rollins three best players in the NL!
Don
August 24th, 2010
10:27 am
If it comes to fan support in the stadium, then the Phillies have the edge. 101 straight sellouts, in a smaller market, with higher ticket prices. The best Braves team in 3 years can’t even sell out a game on a weekend – and it’s not even college football season yet. What gives, Braves fans? Where are you?
Don
August 24th, 2010
10:43 am
Last 3 games avg attendance 16,900. Pathetic.
STH
August 24th, 2010
10:50 am
Its is too early to tell, I believe the Braves win division, but who knows having so many games with Philly in the last 2 weeks. There are also too many teams too close to say who wins that wild card crap. “I am not good enough to win, but since I came close can yuo let me in the playoffs?” I hate the wild card, I however do not want to answer how we structure post season with 6 teams instead of 8. It is still too early, Padres, Reds, Braves, Giants, Cardinals, and Philly are all so closewith so many games left. I am not at all saying Mark cant be right, I just thinks it is way too early to speculate, too much can happen. OurBraves will rock it to the world series is my belief, thats all I have.
STH
August 24th, 2010
10:53 am
Don it is sad, yet there were day games and even the night games are tough, school just started back. I however would love to see attendance closer to 30,000 each game, but I cant complain. I wasnt at a game last week either …….
STH
August 24th, 2010
10:58 am
Don is right, myself include where are the Braves fans? It has always been like that. We won 14 div title in rowe and hardley sold out for any reg season game after 96-97 ish. Atlanta blames it on being a football town, yet we are the Falcons. That doesnt make much sense, I mean the Falcons do look great now, buthow about in the 90’s? Thats what I thought. Maybe we are a basketball town, no wait then thats means Hawks, well GO BRAVES!!!!
Don
August 24th, 2010
12:20 pm
That’s what I don’t get. This is, for sure, a college football town. There are few “born and raised” Atlantans, but most of the transplants are from around the south and they follow their alma mater (or wannabe alma mater). The Braves, even though they are transplants themselves should OWN the south – nearest MLB teams are Rays, Astros, Rangers, Cardinals, Reds and Nationals – all more than 500 miles away (except Rays, and they don’t count!)
14 straight Division Championships should have built a really good fan base. Maybe southerners just don’t like pro sports?
Don
August 24th, 2010
12:27 pm
tlj – yours of August 23rd, 2010
9:21 pm
The “magic” thing sure seems to hold some water. Best example was the other night vs. Dodgers. Heyward, the human ground out machine, is nearly 0 for August, but he gets a walk-off hit the other night. Amazing!
Of course, he struck out to end the game last night. He was 3 for 5, but two were ground ball singles and he had another GDIP. Has the league caught up with him for the time being?
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 24th, 2010
3:45 pm
16,900 average attendance over last 3 games???? are you kidding me?????
Phillies, Class of the NL
August 24th, 2010
3:46 pm
i mean seriously, what a joke
Kruk
August 28th, 2010
2:11 pm
Let’s Go Phillies