Two candidates to be UGA’s AD: McGarity and Williams

Mark, do you get overtime pay ?

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first

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McGarity will bring back integrity back UGA we needed to clean house because UGA has been a laughing stock lately.

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And I can’t believe I agree but I also think it will be another groundbreaking choice with Williams

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[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by AJC , ajc sports editor and others. ajc sports editor said: Mark Bradley looks at possible replacements for Damon Evans as Georgia AD. http://bit.ly/bh3aLu [...]

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If McGarity is not the man, they should run Adams out of town with Damon, and make him provide his own panties.

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Sounds like McGarity has the most experience but both would be worthy candidates. Pull the trigger and move on…

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Mark may be right about McGarrity and Adams. It is such a childish a reason not take him that it fits Adams. He would fit right in with pompous ——– in the U.S. Senate. Think we could start a fund to get him to run and leave UGA?

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I say if the panties don’t fit you must acquit…

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I don’t think its Williams because Billy Pain will run Adams right out the door.

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I vote for mcGarity, but Williams would be okay. Let’s get rid of Adams!!!!

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What is the point of hiring a female AD other than to pat yourself on the back for being progressive.

I’m sorry, but the two biggest revenue generators by far are football and men’s basketball. Those are always going to have male head coaches. I don’t want to be undergoing experiments for the sake of gender equity to see if they can work under a female AD. Georgia sports are too important to me for that. Let’s leave it to a women’s basketball school like UConn or Tennessee to break those barriers.

McGarity is the obvious choice here, just as he was the best choice last time around. He hasn’t worked at Georgia since 1992, and Vince Dooley has been out for six years. I’d say at this point he’s a Foley man more than he’s a Dooley man. I can understand Adams wanting to sever Dooley ties six years ago, but it isn’t like Damon didn’t have any loyalty to Vince either. At this point that spat shouldn’t have anything to do with this decision.

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No more affirmative action.

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Yes, Yoculan would fit in well in Athens. She is living with a married man from the board of regents. She just doesn’t drive around with his panties in her lap.

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Lord Mr. Cox, hiring Williams would not be affirmative action nor was hiring Evans. Go crawl back under rock.

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why does adams hate vince so much?

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Mark, I hope UGA will give serious consideration to hiring Bobby Pope – recently retired AD at Mercer University – as, at least, an interim AD. Bobby did a super job at Mercer, is well known and liked throughout the state, and is camera ready… having worked as sports anchor at WMAZ. May not be a bad choice for an AD that can give us four or five years… until Richt can take the seat.

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How about Frank Crumley? Any thoughts on him?

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What happened to cause so much animosity between adams and Dooley? Dooley has had much more of a positivie affect on UGA than adams has overall

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FisheriesDawg, you’ve got to be at least 60 with this comment – “What is the point of hiring a female AD other than to pat yourself on the back for being progressive.”

Perhaps the point might be that she’s could do a better job than the male candidates. Look at where the male in charge led us you idiot.

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Michael Adams, you are no Vince Dooley! Live with it!! The most reviled person at UGA since Jan Kemp!!!

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No, I was NOT riding in the backseat of his car. And “No, I did not have sex with that woman, your Honor”. So can I stay???

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One thing I have learned living in Athens…Politics will RULE…in place of COMPETENCY…!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqBsf0pKORM

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Claude Felton for AD!!!

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sure sounded like Vince, but I think he’s classy and smart enough not to make any statements prior to something official coming out of Athens.
He would bring back instant credibility to an athletic department that could use it at the moment.

Maybe this is the beginning of the end for Dr Adams as well.

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Wow, I bet the Dawgs see alot of red panties at games this fall, stupid AD Evans and his selfishness. I have friends who are Dawg fans, and I really feel for them, for all Dawg fans. Hang tough Dawg fans, there has to be a positive to this somewhere.

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UGA needs to hire an AD outside of the program. Too much inbreeding is part of UGA’s problem. Like when Alabama has hung up on hiring only head coaches that played or coached on the Bear.

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Get Dave Braine, he messed up GT so bad with these long term contracts with Hewitt and Gailey, we’re still paying. If he came to UGA, he’d give long time contracts to the water boy.

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it’s just amazing that a man seemingly capable of running an athletic department at a major university could also be capable of such bad judgement.

“paint the town red” and “hairy dog” have whole new connotations now.

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That you tube sure sounded like Vince !!!!! Could it not be a hoax ??????/

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I prefer McGarity, he seems like he has a record of success. ButCarla Williams seems qualified. She is an athlete, she has a PHD, and worked at Vandy. I like them both.

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I recommend Dennis Felton as the new A D at UGA !

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No need to worry Dawg Fans I am in control here as stated in the constitution.

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I would only be disapointed if the hire does not come from a complete search of all possible candidates, including the 80% of names that aren’t the ones (all both of them) mentioned here.

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Mr. Bradley…. I will instruct you to create a fan poll on who should be UGA ’s next AD so we can have the results on Michael Adams Desk in the morning… Hop to it !

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Kinda touchy there ain’t you, Marky?

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The Ribs are almost ready lets eat and worry about this stuff Tomarrow.

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Its going to be McGarity he is from Athens and he has always wanted that job more than anybody.

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Mark, do you consider yourself a possible candidate for the AD position?

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Mark, some say (wrongly) you got him fired, you have the POWER, write a few articles on WHO should be the next AD and why, please anybody but the GATOR and the INHOUSE hire!

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For why Dooley dislikes Adams and his cronies, just read this book if you can find it in the bookstores. Rich Whitt- “Behind the Hedges: Big Money and Power Politics at the University of Georgia’’. I have a feeling Dr. Adams has his soldiers to buy up the books from the metro ATL/ Athens area so no one can read it.

The link below is a little preview:

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/articles/2010/03/28/ncaa_should_use_a_presidential_veto_here/

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Too bad Derek Dooley already has a job…

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went on our site and looked at the responsibilities and experience of Dr. Williams and was very impressed. Actually, on paper she is more qualified than Damon was when he got the job. Then went on their website and looked at McGarity’s background and experience. They don’t print nearly the bio on their people, but the short paragraph indicates his job scope is very encompassing in all kinds of directions. Does anyone have any insight on their intangables…and connections…and coach selecting abilities?

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i think damon may need to look up a quote or 2 from richard nixon on the subject of resignations

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Mark, i must agree with you that if it had been general knowlege the contents of the arrest report uga would never have allowed damon to hold that news conference.

his lack of candor sealed his fate.

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IS IT TRUE THAT DENNIS RODMAN IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR A.D.? I DON’T KNOW. I KIND OF LIKE IT I GUESS. HE WILL HELP RESTORE CREDIBILITY TO THE PROGRAM. HE HAS THAT POWER…

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Mr. Adams has done nothing but try to put some academic integrity back into the state university. But as Big Dawg and 90 percent of the fan base proves nothing but the final score on Saturday matters, Jan Kemp exposed this and all the corruption that was going on and she is reviled by everything Bulldog. So, when others have the opinion of your “school” and the “worth” of its diploma that alot of peole do, all you UGA folks that “get it”, 10 percent or whatever, thank the Big Dawg attitude and all those like his. Despite what most think, it should not just be Saturdays that matter, and I beleive Mr. Adams is the only person over there that realizes this. How about standing for something besides football for once. I know, how about education and integrity, seems you could really use some of both especially the second, seing as what has taken place. But thats ok, crucify Mr. Adams for trying to make your “university”, and its diploma a little more important than 12 Saturday’s in the fall.

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Matt Stinchcomb would be a very good candidate. Very bright and what he might lack he would pick up very quickly.

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UGA needs to think bigger than assistant ADs. That means an outside hire.
How about the UConn AD or the Utah AD?

And don’t forget, UGA is a football school. Gonna need someone tough.
If Mark Richt has a lousy year, do you think Williams has the —-s to fire him. I think not.

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Should the best choice for AD be because of gender or race? I don’t care who as long as they are qualified! Don’t choose BECAUSE of race/gender-choose BECAUSE of qualification and character!

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Okay, need a tough guy. Donald Trump.

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Dear ShackDawg:

“FisheriesDawg, you’ve got to be at least 60 with this comment”

Under 30, actually, but thanks for making assumptions.

“Perhaps the point might be that she’s could do a better job than the male candidates. Look at where the male in charge led us you idiot.”

How would what you just said be any different than someone saying “we don’t need to hire another black person as AD, look at where the last one led us you idiot”? Neither would have anything to do with anything.

My point was that Bradley seemed to be insinuating that Adams would select Williams BECAUSE she’s a female. I was simply speaking to that point. If she’s really more qualified than McGarity, I’m all for taking a look at her. I don’t see how she is, but that’s beside the point.

Still, there are going to be some major issues with the coaches and fans of a major football school being willing to accept a female AD. I’m all for gender equality, but not if it is going to be any kind of hindrance for the success of UGA athletics, and especially not if the motivation in hiring a female is for Dr. Adams to feel good about himself. The point of this hire should be to make UGA as dominant as possible across the board in athletics, particularly in football, basketball and baseball.

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You should hire me and Harry to lead the department. We will start a ski team and worm farming as our first official acts.

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I’m more then qualified as well because I use to be a limo driver. Unfortunately they fired me for leaving the scene of an accident. Man they always freak out when you leave the scene of an accident.

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i think the next ad should have a legal background such as Kirby Moore.

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However, if this is a job that requires you to work more then 40 hours a week then we may have a problem as it will interfere with my worm store.

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Carla Williams would be an excellent choice. She would be the best hire independent of the “political correctness” so many of you are using as her only qualification. She is tough, ethical, hard working, and bleeds red and black. She has functioned in just about every capacity – player, coach, and administrator. She understands the enormity of the job and strives for success. She would have no trouble and has not had trouble working with her male colleagues. She has their respect.

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I think Mark B’s qoute was what Bill Clinton said to the Selective Service.

I have complained forever about UGA’s ethnic diversity and I think Mrs. williams could help with that area, but not sure she is ready to be incharge of the UGA Athletic Department and deal with the Good ole Boy UGAAA.

I do think the Dawgs should cast a really wide net in their search process.

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I can arrange a ’snow tire’ day promotion at sanford stadium for a game. Think about it.

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Oh, and we’ll also change all the uniforms to cotton. It’s a natural fiber that breathes. It will keep you cooler and more comfortable then the other team. A more comfortable team will play better.

Co-Stan-Za!

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However, if hired, I would prefer that you call me ‘T-Bone’.

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Well, let’s see, where on earth do I begin. Ah yes, now that UGA fans got what they’ve wanted for years, what’s next? I can almost guarantee Williams won’t get it, I’d bet my five year UGA degree on that. McGarity, hmm, can’t say he’d get it either. I think his name as a possibility just to stir things up. Sort of like what the GOP did with Palin. So, who’s left? Well, Mr. UGA President, they backed you into a corner last time, look’s like they’re trying to lay it on you this time! Vince Dooley’s name just had to appear…overtime isn’t worthy of this stuff. Bradley and I are feeding off the same emotions!

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Maybe the next position for a woman should be as UGA’s next president.

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Add to that no one is better then me at cutting costs.

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George we know if you get mad you will wear Hershal’s Jersey and get food all over it. Sorry George you don’t hunt and can’t play golf. So, you ain’t got no shot. Thanks for your interest though.

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Hire Herchel Walker. He will bring integrity back to Georgia and he has played every sport we have to offer.

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Being hung up on Ms. Williams gender is so short sighted given her qualifications.

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Georgia’s been sliding since 2005 in the Director’s Cup:
2010 20th
2009 18th
2008 10th
2007 12th
2006 9th
2005 7th
2004 5th

Also, Georgia is now the ONLY team in the SEC East to not have a champion in baseball, basketball, or football since 1992.

We need a proven winner. Get a Stanford Dir or Assist in here.

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FSU and Stanford in the same sentence to make a point? I think that should have been Samford.

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Stanford would be the best choice.

http://www.gostanford.com/school-bio/stan-administration.html

McGarity would be 2nd best choice.

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I vote for the chick he was with that night.

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I wasn’t serious about Vandy. But Patrick is right, Stanford would be top choice for just about anything.

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If Adams wants to CONTROL somebody like a robot, he’ll get unproven leadership. If he wants to WIN a championship in a sport like baseball/basketball, or football, he needs to go get someobody from either Florida or Stanford. Football is where the revenues come from, so I’d lean a little to Florida, but Stanford excels in many sports and academically too. Florida has had recent championships in football and basketball, pretty impressive.

P.S This really puts the pressure cooker on Mark Richt to win a Championship soon. The new AD won’t put up with 8-5 seasons, too much pressure to win, too much money involved. At some point, after a decade, people will start to look at Mark Richt and whether he is capable of winning a championship as a head coach.

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Mens sports NOT womens sports keep the department operating. NO way in Hell should a woman be AD. I know its 2010 blah blah blah but enough is enough. If McGarity will take the job, give it to him. End of story.

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Nobody is looking at only women’s sports George. The AD promotes UGA. You can’t honestly think that someone would take the job and not understand where the revenue is generated???? Come on

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Let’s really put the screws to Tennessee and hire Derick Dooley. He was AD at La. Tech and would bring home a Dooley. And if it makes the Vols have a fourth coach in three years, so much the better.

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If you’re going to let a woman run the program, hard to find someone more qualied than Chris Hutchins over at Stanford.

http://www.gostanford.com/school-bio/stan-hutchins.html

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what is carla williams personal background? is she married , single, have children. straight or gay, living with a man or woman or married man. don’t say this is not important and that only her qualifications should be considered because if that is the case then damon is qualified for the job but his morals eliminated him as it should suzann y. i don’t care about phd or such but i personally don’t want to be hearing about support for the obama idiot he is ruining the country. if she is straight and not morally corrupt and is comitted to the dawgs and not politically correctness then consider her if she is not then quit strying to push her for the job just because she is a black female. Speak up hippocrites

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We did the affirmative action thing and look where that got us….

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Kevin – who is Arthur Johnson?

Mark – in selecting your next A.D., what is the most important: length of experience, financial background, prominant NCAA profile, compliance experience, coaching experience,…what?

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Holey-moley! University of Chicago undergrad, MIT MBA in Strategic Management Consulting and Marketing. Plus 5 years experience in job at Stanford doing all the external relations stuff. I I was a president, I’d interview her.

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hey Bark, go back to the cesspool on N. Ave. u r sooooooo ride the fence I betcha ur tail end is sore from the ridin. Im surprised u haven’t made this racial, but i give u credit – u keep ur job.

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I would like to see the BEST, most qualified person get the job, not based on race, color or gender just the most qualified. If it turns out to be a black woman, ok and if it turns out to be a white man then ok too.

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Many continue to say that hiring Dr. Williams, who is a well qualified candidate would only be hired for affirmative action reasons because she is black. If she were not so highly qualified and experienced, I would agree.

Here is some food for thought: Everyone always focuses on affirmative action, but rarely nepotism.

A few examples of nepotism: (I won’t even discuss the # of students who are only accepted into various colleges because of who their parents are)

Luke Russert, NBC Correspondent: (Dad, Tim Russert)
Jenna Bush (Hager), NBC Today Show Correspondent (Dad: Former Pres. Bush)
Ayla Brown, CBS Early Show Correspondent (Dad: Sen. Scott Brown)

Can anyone honestly say that these people are qualified to be in such high paid, profile positions? So, if Dr. Williams is under consideration for AD, just be glad she is qualified. Breathe a sigh of relief that Luke, Jena and Ayla do not want the AD job because based on their parents influence and power, they would get it.

So my question is, what is the difference between Affirmative Action and Nepotism? I submit, there is no difference.

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What about Derek Dooley. Tennessee would probably pay a large part of his salary

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And I will extend that same pledge to all UGA people. No dawg will ever step foot in Houston while I’m AD.

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i can’t believe u are considering another Dooley. Adams has nixed that in the past . Maybe another Adams is more in line with what we need. someone who really pushes us for what we promote. thoughts?

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Anybody really think Adams would consider a guy he passed over 5 years ago?

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In addition to Harry Dawg, we will also have a body suit man during all home events. I’d be willing to donate my suit to the cause.

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The new AD is going to be Steve Dennis, current AD at Troy, former player for Dooley…if that does not happen there will be many unhappy former footbal players…

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Greg McGarity, Carla Williams & any other person associated with UGA athletics should be excluded. A proven administrator with absolutely no attachments to any UGA group or sport should be selected. There is a decade-plus pathogenic quagmire at UGA AA. Throw the doors open and let the sunlight in. Any one tainted with a historical attachment to UGA athletics and AA will cause the quagmire to fester. Do a national search, get a proven leader and administrator. The University, alumni and tradition deserve no less. There is money and time to do it right.

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including Adams

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The attorney has a pencil thin mustache contrasting with a couple of prominent, fleshy chins.

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Ok, we tried going with the affirmative action candidate, let’s hope Adams picks someone who will actually run the program and not use it as a position to pickup women

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Mcgarity’s just a gofer for jeremy foley at uf. GA needs a bigtime AD with real experience running a program. They should do a nationwide search and try to get an existing AD at a big school. No more on the job training like evans, who did nothing.

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George – AA= Nepotism. That is literally the dumbest analogy I have ever heard. Moron.

I see you are quick to respond in an infantile manner with the name calling. Not so quick to explain why it is the “dumbest analogy.” I understand the truth can be a bitter pill to swallow, hence your bitterness.

I am expecting your kind of responses because people do not want to see nor admit affirmative action is the same as nepotism. If minority people get a job or position they are not qualified for, that is indeed affirmative action. If a white person gets a job or position they are not qualified for, it is indeed due to nepotism.

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I have known Carla Green-Williams for more than 30 years, those of you who have chosen to judge her without knowing her should do your homework. She is more than qualified and deserving of the AD position, not to mention that you will never have to worry about her morals. She bleeds RED & BlACK!

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Yeah, sweet ga peach, Damon bled red and black as well….red panties and a black face…get someone qualified

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im not sure yoculan wears panties. not even red or black ones. Im sorry, she is a loose cannon. Let her go. damn

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Have always thought the world of Damon Evans and will pray for the man AND HIS FAMILY. But let’s face it – he basically had the world by the tail. Beloved in the Dog Nation – doing a fine job for the program; professional, polished one of the youngest A.D.’S in the business and one of the very few African American’s in his position. And from what I can see – a beautiful wife! And a brand new contract that pretty much set him and his family for life!

Hate to admit it – Mark has it right. No way will McGarity get this – too close to Dooley.

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dagnabit- inappropriate and an insult to a person of outstanding character.

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Affirmative Action, how about Barry Bonds? Josh Cribbs? and Kellen Winslow Jr? Do you think they were given the jobs due to nepotisim? Or do you think genes, talent, parental support, personal choice and commitment had anything to do with it?

Do you think someone else should have randomly been given their jobs based on fairness?

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Sonny P will need a job in a few months just hire him. Sonny is already friends with all the Money players involved.

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McGarity by far!!! Adams should be gone! Anyone who will allow someone to come onto their campus with a weapon,kill a deer, and not be charged as the policy states, does not care about the school or students!!! He has real problems.

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Jack
Regardless of how you or I or anyone else feels about Adams. How on earth do you twist this situation with Evans around to be Adams’ fault???

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Wow,
Looking at these post you would think Evans did a horrible job as AD. It’s too bad he played right into the hands of the dawg necks. Also his wife makes the woman the car with him look like a boy.

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“They should do a nationwide search and try to get an existing AD at a big school.”, who would be willing to relocate to Athens, Georgia.

I’m working my way down the US News list:

Miami’s out, because they are not a big school (15,000 enrollment). I have to say I’d pick Athens over the Miami area, for a lot less money.

Bunch of other hoity-toity ACC schools. Nah.

Next on the list would be Iowa. Big school (29,000), located in Iowa City. Never been there, but I don’t think Iowa City would do it for me. Thumbs up on the relo to Athens.

Play your own game from here on.

By the way, I was born in Athens and I grew up within 25 miles from there.

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I agree with you Bradley, I am an idiot.

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Damngooddog, he hired and supervised Evans. There should at least be an investigation to see if Evans has displayed this type of behavior before, and if so, did Adams witness it and document it, and give Evans the appropriate council. If the signs were there and Adams ignored it, he should fall too.

When you hire and supervise someone, and that person fails, your ability to hire and supervise is rightfully called into question. Anyone can make a bad hire, but when you look at the Harrick situation, this does not appear to be an isolated incident, it is a trend.

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Man Mrs Evans is smoking. He must have been drinkin to cheat on her..just sayin

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Delbert just grow up. damn dude. has it ever entered ur mindless mind that we need somthing more “outside the box” instead of the “old school”. This world won’t allow it. damn dude get a hot dog and drink a beer.

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“Dooley dislikes Adams because the president pushed him out. Adams dislikes Dooley because he fought back.”

Dooley hates Adams because he’s a pretentious, self-serving asswipe. Adams hates Dooley because he’s an egomaniac who couldn’t stand the fact that not only was Dooley far more popular, but he also wouldn’t be controlled by Adams. Evans was probably nothing more than a puppet for Adams. The day Adams gets show the door, will be the best thing that ever happened to UGA.

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KA the Athletics Director is paid by the Athletic Assoiation NOT THE TAX PAYERS of GEORGIA.

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Damon Evans was the favor Michael Adams granted the UGA Athletic Association (AA). I doubt seriously there will be another like McGarity or Williams, in spite of their sterling credentials. I think he’s had enough of the incestuous bulldog in-breeding among the in crowd (AA). Adams wants athletics to spin like a sewing machine but not out of control His passion for the University is academics, financial stability and research. It’s hard to do in the economy of the last decade and a political system like GA’s where he has no state or national support of substance. The UGA Athletic Association, fans and alumni need to buck up and demand a mature, proven leader who can give our sports programs credibility and competitiveness. Who the hell cares if some body bleeds red and black? For the kind of money we can pay at UGA for AD we don’t need any person bleeding we need them working! Do a national search and get a person of quality – man, white, woman, Puerto Rican, Methodist, black, short, tall, skinny, fat. Do not hire any one connected to the Athletic Association or coaching staff, past, present.

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now now Emory lets leave it open. we are in the frickin ditch

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Why can’t Mark Richt handle this job and HC at the same time like Vince did?

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god bless u Kirby

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Red panties.

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UGA has to bring in an outsider to clean up the AD office.

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Michael Adams and Mark Richt need to be the next two to go while we’re cleaning house. Really.

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Man the ribs were good.

Now, Pick AD that believes more in Education and the Rule of Law. Get all the Dawgs back on the leash and undercontrol.

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Crying, crying? What kind of AD did UGA have? Plus his wife is more attractive than the tramp he picked-up.

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Todd, not ready to toss Richt just yet. I would like to see how this season plays out. If our D improves, and our new QB shows development, I was keep him.

Adams needs to pack his desk.

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Crime Dog, did she get charged with DUI?

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OBAMA help me

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Our red panties are currently sold out.
Please check back in a couple of weeks.

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Nick Saban help me

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Why don’t we hire the most qualified person that will be respected on campus and abroad? Should it be a male? Yes. The reality is football is the money sport. Football is what you think of when UGA sports are mentioned and it always will be. Football will always be a man’s world. On another note, to even mention the new AD needs to be African American and to bring diversity into the picture is nauseating. Simply hire the best for the job…period.

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Mr Charlie – While we may have differing views, thank you for engaging in a civil manner.

Your point about having successful parents is basically my point. Let’s try this example, if a student does not perform well on the SAT and would not otherwise be accepted into ABC University, but the parents are successful and have power, the student will be admitted solely based on the parents influence= Nepotism.

Conversely, if a minority student does not perform well on the SAT, coupled with not having successful parents with power and influence, if the student is accepted = Affirmative Action.

Anyone who has ever been hired/accepted into college based on who they know and not what they know, sadly that is nepotism. Anyone hired/accepted into college because of race/gender and not what they know, sadly that is affirmative action.

I think many people are so quick to disparage affirmative action that they fail to realize they themselves are beneficiaries of nepotism = affirmative action.

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Looks like the multi-posers have hijacked the discussion.

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Bradley did you cut me off for tonight? What did I say that was worse than the stuff on here now?

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What would it take to get rid of Adams? Who holds him accountable? He obviously is not a good judge of character (i.e. Jim Harrick, Damon Evans). Those 2 hirings right there would be enough for most people to get fired. He is also one of the most pious, arrogant, greedy, money hungry persons on the planet. Don’t get me wrong, I’m proud of my alma mater just not of its president.

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Vince Dooley was one of the most over rated college coaches ever. If Herschel Walker didn’t show up, he would have been another Tommy Tuberville. Deal with it.

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Why am I not surprised that the comments are mostly bigoted and racist?

Y’all should be embarrassed.

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Dave Hart wants the job.

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Affirm,

Affirmative Action is the law of the land, so if a few trolls bash it, don’t let them get under your skin.

I remember a scene on all in the family where Archie was complaining to George Jefferson about a black guy who got hired on the dock via Affirmative Action. He said:

“I did not need no G** D** affirmative action to get me my job”. Edith said ” THAAATS RRIIIGGT ARRCCHIIIEEE, YOUR UNCLE GOT YOU YOURS”. (I miss the day when we could laugh at ourselves.)

That was in 1972, so nepotism/affirmative action has been recogonized by the establishment for a long time.

But the fact is, nepotism will always have a leg up on Affirmative Action, because government legislation will never overcome good role modeling a quality involved parents.

However, I assure you, the Obama girls have a future full of opportunity equaling the Bush girls, so it is evolving from a race to more of a class issue. Our system ain’t perfect, but it is the best around.

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Logic, the Irony is, I think he is much more qualified to do an impactful “you booze, you lose” anti alcohol campaign.

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This could be a fun couple of weeks watching UGA get turned down possible AD’s.

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Group,
Trust me….The country is sick and tired of this “Politically Correct” Crap! (AKA: Affirmative Action.)

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It should be McGarity but it will be Williams.

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I’d offer Jessie Ventura the job. And yes, I’m a rocket scientist.

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David Greene or David Pollack for AD. I know it’s not progressive or PC, but 2 Damn Good Dawgs!!

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What is this african-American Crap?? There are whites and blacks! Go Boortz!

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Pepper Rodgers would be another fine choice. Hell, he was awarded a “Most Wonderful Person On Earth” plaque at the Liberty Bowl once.

He might be dead, lemme check..

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Matt Stinchcomb is by far the best option!

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Damon Evans, Lothario that he is, did a very good job as AD. I am also a Michael Adams fan and believe his work at the University is outstanding. His goal can’t be to compete with Duke or Harvard or Emory. From the financial and political status of GA, that is impossible. He does believe UGA graduates can compete and he is improving academics with that in mind. If you asked him he would probably define his goal for UGA to be ranked academically with UVA, UF, UNC, etc. That takes money, the one thing he doesn’t need is for the Athletics to become a financial or pr burden and as we all know Damon Evans was quite successful at that until now. That’s why I believe he’ll have to go outside the klan to find a long term solution for AD position.

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Can UGA expect DE to walk away quietly..? I’ll take a wag and say the storm hasn’t finished brewing on this one yet.

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Adams will appoint another lackey. Will not let anyone take away the spotlight from himself.

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Bill Clinton?

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Elliott Spitzer?

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Vernon Jones?

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Look for somebody that can hire coaches who win National Championships.

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Let’s get the right person, not the “politically correct” person based on color or gender. Get the best person, regardless of color, race, or gender.

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Damon was hired to win soem National Championships. He didn’t get 1 in football, baseball, or basketball. Glad he’s gone. Sad the way he went out.

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We ain’t won the big one in football in a long time., fresh eyes, let’s get the job done.

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Mr Evans said the red panties were cool
and unwound like a yarn on the spool
and yet they were red
and next then i said
mr evans youre really a fool

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Perhaps Evans could replace Stevie on Tiger’s bag. Wouldn’t that be a doozey of a pair.

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Yoculan is one of the finest coaches to ever coach a college sport — not a stretch to compare her to the Wizard from UCLA — and I’d love to see what she would do with the UGA Athletic Department. I know one thing she would do, if anybody cares….

Beat Florida!!!

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Why don’t we hire as AD teh most successful coach in UGA history? Hire Suzanne Yoculan. She has the fund raising skills, discipline and would be a great change to the good old boy Athletic Department.

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Matt Stinchcomb is the type of person who this program needs to continue the UGA legacy by surrounding himself with an experienced AD from a school with proven track record of athletic and academic success. Matt if your reading this please submit your name as an interested canidate…our young men and women at UGA need your leadership!!!

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Matt Stinchcomb is the right person to continue the storied legacy of UGA athletics. Matt if you are reading this, please consider submitting your name as a canidate…Our coaches and young men and women need to see how to succeed with dignity and excellence!!

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It’ll be Carla Williams. The only criticism Georgia could have been facing over Damon’s dismissal would be from the race pimps….and Williams gives you another African-American AD and a female to boot.

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Dave Brane is available and has Chan Gailey’s personal private cellphone number.

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Vince Dooley is not going to be involved with ANY of this nor should he. His son is the coach of the University of Tennessee football team. ‘Nuff said.

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Greg McGarity

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Heh, she’s Mrs. Damon Evans for now.

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I hear the next AD will be Dave Muia. He has worked in the AD office for years and handled the majority of the behind the scenes AD responsiblities. If not him a darkhorse candidate would be Jasper Sanks.

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I carry the Lord and Bible with me but how is Mother Mary going to help U? I believe the Officer did what he was suppose to do. Thank God for good Police & GSP.

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UGA has a history of leaders with some serious ethical flaws. I know higher education is a political climate, but UGA has a history of hiring some real knuckleheads from Ray Goff to Jim Harrick. And even the “good” leaders like Vince Dooley and Suzanne Yoculan have a less than stellar ethical track record, even though everyone elevates them to hero status because of their accomplishments. I mean have any of you actually met Vince Dooley? He isn’t particularly a nice guy, and I personally know quite a few of his former players, many of whom can’t stand the guy. Yet most fans kiss the ground he walks on and demonize Adams. Why? Because he won football games. I’m not a fan of Michael Adams, but I didn’t exactly shed a lot of tears when he canned Dooley. And if most of you REALLY knew Dooley, you wouldn’t either.

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Can’t say I have any simpathy for either one, but damn am I glad I’m not Damon Evans or Michael Adams………….Both are fix’n to get a serious ass whoopin no matter what they do.

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Mark,

funny you mentioned a black woman as candidate. You have to understand UGA or UGA fans are all about status quo and good ole boy network.

Vince Dooley resisted any change to status quo, and he was pushed aside because of it. UGA fans still cannot forgive Michael Adams for the change although hiring Mark Richt is big upgrade.

UGA is like a big old company. If you can keep as it is, the fans will be happy. Anybody attempting any reform (even for good), the fans will be mad. UGA did not win SEC titles for 20 years before Michael Adams’ reform, but doesn’t matter that the reform has brought 2 SEC titles, but the fans are still mad with Michael Adams as I am writing this posting.

Even if that black woman brings a NC to UGA. But believe me, if Michael Adams put her as AD, UGA fans won’t forgive Michael Adams for another 20 years.

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One Day these black athletes will open their eyes and go a different direction.

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As a UGA grad myself, I can’t wait until Adams is gone and I can get a new diploma issued with the new president’s name on it to display proudly. I am embarrassed his name is on my current one (I haven’t removed it from the tube 8 years after receiving it) and if those who are grads from elsewhere commenting on how great Adams is knew the REAL story behind what goes on in UGA politics, they would feel the same way I do. Adams runs UGA the way Blago ran Illinois…

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McGarity or Williams would be fine hires….Stanford excels in the cup because they compete in so many more sports than we do and excel in sports where most schools don’t participate….goes for the whole Pac-10 in general. Fencing/Water Polo anyone???

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Any racist claiming Damon Evans was an “affirmative action hire” didn’t know the man’s resume, or pay attention to the great job he was doing until last Wednesday.

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Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. They should have kept Evans. He sin is known. All the others are hidden.

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I agree that we need the best “person” available. No prior connection to GA. is needed. I like the idea that down the road we should make way for Coach R who probably will be a better AD than Coach. WE don’t need to make a mistake in veiw of what just happened.

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iagree with another person that BOBBY POPE should be the next AD at uga isend money to that school for fundraising purposes so he did an excellent job at MERCER and i guarantee he wont be caught in the middle of the night with a pair of red panties in his lap iguarantee that .

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bobby pope is the only cCANDIDATE.

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If Michael Adams continues to play the “I hate anyone with Dooley connections”, we should disconnect him. His personal vendettas cost UGA greatly. Of all the people in the world I would like to have removed from anywhere, it would be Michael Adams. No one else wants him so it looks like we will be stuck with him for a long time. Michael Adams is the only thing I don’t like about UGA. I graduated in 1969 and have followed the Dawgs all my life. It would be heaven to see Miichael Adams leave UGA. Why don’t we start a move to get rid of MA?

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Mark, what would it take to get a move started to get rid of Adams?

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NO RED PANTIES FOR BOBBY POPE

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Evans’ lawyer may have told him to sign what ever Toly put in front of him since they could always claim duress later and sue for more. The UGAA will pay almost anything to them because of his skin collar and the bad publisity. Tolie’s first offer was likely $50 mil to walk. HIs wife need the dinero for the kids.

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Rx Dawg and G-Dawg – Many of us find it hilarious that you guys continue to harp on Dr. Adams, waxing philosophical about how to run a University. Don’t get me wrong, working the afternoon shift at Best Buy probably does qualify you to opine on things 1,000 times above your pay grade, but maybe….just maybe….the Board (who has had many, many chances to remove him) thinks that Dr. Adams is ….wait for it….actually good for the University. While you and your ilk sit at home spooning with photos of Vince Dooley, literally and figueratively, riding Herschel’s back to a championship 3 decades ago, others have moved on. Ask an Alabama fan what a 30 year old title means…..nothing. That is is precisely why Alabama has flourished, not made excuses, and won more titles, while UGA continues to look back at the “Dooley years” and moan on and on and on and on about football title that bascially predates the show Mash. My advice to is to move on. Oh, and go back to stocking shelves and leave the grown up work for others. Cheap shots at Adams just make you look dumb.

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BREAKING NEWS,UGA is keeping Evans on as a counselor to the football team since he can relate to them so well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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GT Man, our waterboy (girl) already has a long term contract . . .

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If they hire Carla Williams, I think Ill vomit. May be time to find another school to root for.

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Junkyard dawgs, that is…

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UGAg will go the Affirmative Action route and hire another Afreakin American. Which is the major reason Damon Evans was hired. Here’s a novel idea…..HIRE THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON regardless of their skin tone. UGAg does not need to pander to “da brothas” any more!

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Having know Greg and family since I was 8 years old, my counsel, if aksed, would be absolutely DO NOT take the UGA AD job if offered. Greg left UGA just prior to the 1992 football season. That’s a long time ago. He has a life in Gainesville. A VERY good one, to boot. He is NOT Foley’s gofer as mentioned above. We have had several conversations concerning the scope of his position. Greg needs to look at the offer, if it were to come, very unemotionally. First, he is in line for, at the very least, serious consideration for the AD job at UF. The AD job at UF is a FAR superior job than AD at UGA. UF aspires to greatness. UGA aspires to mediocrity. Second, what if the UGA deal goes bad? There are no guarantees involved. Then he’s thrown it all away for nothing. This decision is a business one, and hopefully Greg will address it as such.

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I like that idea, Larry.

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Adams is a cancer.

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Hey guys it never ceases to amaze me how men can have it “all”, especially when ‘all’ includes a beautiful Woman like Mrs Evans, then throw it away by hanging with a ‘tramp’. Yes, we all are human and make mistakes. We can’t live without sin(without God’s help). We we can live without scandal.

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If you put a tall hat on Damon Evans, would he not look just like the cat in the hat?

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hey, how about Hershel Walker

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The Bulldog Nation’s big $$ boosters should demand Adams hire McGarity. He’s infinitely more qualified and should have been hired instead of Evans. Choices do have consequences…

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damngooddog,

I agree not reason to make disparaging remarks about someone. But I will say this, just being a respected administrator is not enough to get the top 5 income producing AD jobs in America. You cannot tell me she is one of the top 5 most qualified people in the country and if she gets the job that is wouldn’t have to do with her race and gender. Sorry I am not buying that. I am sure they could come up with a long list of respected senior administrators, believe me. Not saying she is not qualified, I am sure she is but many, many people are and to be AD at a place like UGA, just being qualified isn;t enough. Damon was qualified but still clearly not the right person. Adams won’t pick the right person because his ego is bigger than Texas and he is a cancer to UGA and the state of Georgia.

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Mrs. Evans,

Please give me a call when your divorce is settled. Damn, Damon you are a fool. Your wife is beautiful.

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[...] Mark Bradley of the AJC believes two candidates will top Georgia’s AD list. [...]

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Hire Me!!! cause the golf thing isnt working out so well right now and I am a Stanford man to boot.

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I’d like to throw my panteez, er hat in the ring for this AD opening-my quals speak for themselves-have you seen pics of my argentine bimbo? mike “its rollin baby” price would be my first hire with strong consideration to tiger woods for a position

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In order for the University of Georgia to get the best candidate, a nationwide search needs to be performed. Michael Adams needs to be the first to go. This is his biggest blunder, if we remember he wanted Harrick. Then hung Dooley out to dry for the hire.The real problem here is Adams. We someone who will bring back pride, and unify all involved with the University of Georgia. Adams need to be gone! He has fractured this school and community long enough.

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First of all Evans isn’t an African American, he’s an American! Just like the rest of us (black and white) that born in the US we have no more in common with the countries our ancestors came from than does the man on the moon. Just go to an African nation and you will see that. Or go to Italy and you will see that Italians Americans have nothing in common with real Italians except for skin tone.

Second, if Adams is that insecure about Dooley, then the future of Georgia’s academics and athletics is in deep, deep trouble.

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First, I’m amazed at the sexism you people have displayed here. Football, and men’s basketball may be moneymakers, but the AD would not responsible for the coaching, people…(s)he’s responsible for the MONEY. Having worked on a committee with Dr. Carla Williams, I know she would do an excellent job as AD. Also, there’s a HUGE construction project going on at Butts-Mehre, and it would be best for someone already familiar with it to continue to supervise it.

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Always knew the dawgs were a bunch of girls

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Well said Triple Dawg. And I am sure her success on the committee you worked on with her had nothing to do with gender or race. It probably was due to intelligence, ethics, practicality, commitment to excellence, and the ability to successfully relate to people. Am I right???

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Here we go again; reading all the UGA loyalist who are not loyalist, just reacist.

First, UGA or any other institution should never submit to pressure form the outside; making decision for what ‘others’ will think. As a retired Law Enforcement Officer, we have come to treat a DUI or DWI as worthy of a capitol punishment offense. I am against players or anyone else loosing out simply for a DUI or DWI. It’s simply no that serious absent any damages against someone else or some somes property. Neither happened in this case. So I really hoped that Damon would be retained, Now did I really believe that? No Simply because of his race; there has never been anything to warrant hisremoval, EVER, abd he has done a fine job. But, Bull Gog nation never really accepted him. We pretended to, waiting for the opportunity.

Second, I certainly do not know who the best replacement would be, but after having a qualified african american as the Great UGA AD, appoint a female, especially an african american as AD, regardless of her credentials and ability would be worse, to many of you, that retaining Evans.

Gentlemen, it’s 2010, slavery and racism should be long gone, but we all know it’s not. Bull Dog Nation do ot want the best QB, if i mean that an african american QB is the best choice. We find any reason to say its not the best. Many of you feel the same with any position at UGA, thats reserved for someone that is a leader at UGA.

If Bull Dog Nation want to eleminate subpar leadership, ACCEPT thebest candidate, PERIOD.

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Triple Dawg

Hope you are prepared to be savaged on this blog by those who believe if Dr. Williams is hired will only be because she is black.

You have provided first-hand knowledge based on your personal interactions with her and can attest to her qualifications and experience. But just watch how people will now attack you because you support a black woman. I hope you are not thin-skinned.

The blind leading the blind pack are out in full force this morning.

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Mark….Now I know who you are…ROBERT STACKS TWIN BROTHER.

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FIRST!

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Will Evans settlement be under or over 2mil?

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“(Michael F. Adams would rather eat a charbroiled rat than turn to Dooley.)”

So, Mark, you’re saying Adams is also a cannibal?

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Political correctness has damn sure backfired on Mr. Adams. Dare he do it again?

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I am thinking about the college, not just the football team.

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Evans buyout for ‘firing without cause’ was likely for 3 years of base salary, around $1.5 million. DUI isn’t a felony, and therefor would be excluded from being a cause for firing. Adams should have had DUI spelled out as a cause for termination.

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joe soroka – “no more blacks”.

Are you that serious of a racist? if there were ‘no more blacks’ in UGA programs, UGA would be Towsen University, at best…

It’s OK to play blacks but blacks can’t lead? Are you that stupid? My answer is YES; you are that stupid and never [probably] never attended college, ANYWHERE.

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Wouldn’t you like to be there when Evans had to re-tell the story. Oh, did I leave the part out about the red panties? Too funny. I think they bring back Dooley didnt he win something 30 years ago…

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Will UGA hire someone with actual AD experience? Might be worth a try.

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mark you helped the pile on process you should be ashamed

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Claude Felton is the BEST choice for interim AD. vince Dooley is on record in saying that the second best “signing” that he ever made (after #34) was hiring Claude as SID. He has the experience and the “respect” from the national media and the Bulldog Nation to make the transition to Greg McGarrity.

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How much will it cost UGA for Damon not to bring down others with him??

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What’s next for Damon Evans after he leaves UGA? I hope he saved his $$$, because he probably won’t ever see that kind of salary again. Must suck big-time to go from making 500k to 0, especially the embarrassingly way he went about it.

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hire Daniel Carver

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Can we please ban any more panties fit/must acquit references? That was somewhat funny this first time it was posted.

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Jaw Dawg … I agree completely about Steve Dennis. I grew up with him in Macon and he was always a straight arrow. Won’t find much support for him on this forum tho, not many of these folks are familiar with players pre-Herschel era. I hope he at least gets an interview.

Mark … Steve Dennis a good name for this job … your opinion?

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Intelligence is usually shown at an early stage of developement. This is not true of races.

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Outsider looking in….How many AD’s have you hired, you moron ?
Steve Dennis would be a good choice, but he’ll never get it because he’s a white male.
Same reason McGarrity won’t get it.
Do you seriously think Evans was the best choice for the job when he got it ? He got it for one reason….the color of his skin.

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Makes all the P.C. sense to hire the Black Woman to replace the Black Man.
Can’t be hiring any White Man !

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Both seem to be excellant choices. They will bring honor back to my alma mater!

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Agree

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In today’s society, you just know it won’t be a white male. White males are finished.

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Michigan State had a woman AD several years ago and it was a disaster. MSU still trying to recover after all these years. Had a woman President and she didn’t want to give Sabon a raise?!

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mm1736….AMEN ! Claude Felton is a slam dunk choice, but the fact that he is so close to Vince Dooley probably eliminates him in Adam’s mind

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At least the panties were red and not blue & orange or gold and white.

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Lets cut out all the B.S. we need the most qualified person for the job, and dosen’t necessarily mean hiring someone that KNOWS uga sports o.k. As far as Adams and Dooley are concerned. Both men have the Me Me Me mentality. Very narcicisstic men. Impossible for them to get along. But that being said. I truly believe that Adams has too much power. And he is too politically correct for my stomach. Evans got the AD job in the first place because Adams could control him. And if that is what he wants then he is going to get a person who is not going to be able to have an independant thought about how things should be done. I for one cannot stand this type of a University President much less any type of control freak. It is not good for business nor the people that surround the sort. Get ride of Adams if we really want to improve.

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Carla Williams is a lock for the AD job—Adams would catch a lot of heat if he appoints a white male over a black female, due to diversity and affirmative action rules on campus.

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GT79fromAlpharetta, Like what you said but really. With hte way Adams is he would never pick someone that good. Adams is a fool and needs to be GONE, GONE, GONE. This is the state university of the great state of Georgia. As a state of Georgia loyalist I say to ALL Georgians. Lets get or take back what belongs to us and that is OUR university.

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“no whiff of impropriety” ???? If you haven’t read the lurid details (i.e. Yoculan and Leebern, etal….) order the book “Behind the Hedges” from Amazon today. I can’t believe there hasn’t been more angry reaction to this expose

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Why rush to hire someone? Ask Billy Payne or Chris Welton to serve as interim AD for a yearM. Then hire the right person. The fact is long-time Athletic Admin professionals are being dinosaurs in a sector with multi-million dollar revenues. UGA should reach out to private sector to find its next AD.

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Time to call Kirby Smart again.

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Why not Jeremy Elliot? He’s been an AD for six years.

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Billy ran the olympics and would take the AD job, but at a much higher price. He’d probably want a salary of at least $1 million plus a boatload of benefits and perqs, but with his connections, he’d be worth it. Adams needs to call Billy and beg him to take the job ASAP!!!!

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BRING BACK VINCE DOOLEY

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ANYONE?

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I must throw George Wynn in as a good candidate. UGA grad, successful run at Arizona State and now Texas

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What about George Wynn Assistant AD at Texas. Played at UGA when I was there and is second in command at the most powerful athletic program in the nation.

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Suggested replacements : Bob Pittard, Darrell Huckaby. Both are Georgia grads, very intelligent, former coaches and know the program.

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Not that I am promoting Dan Radokovich at all for the UGA job…but GoDAWGSWoofWoof he came to tech from LSU. Personally, I think Williams is the best candidate for the job. She is far superior to George Wynn. Can’t believe he is in the conversation.

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Both appear to be well qualified, however, I’d choose Carla for the job. She’s overseen the women’s sports prorams at UGA for several years now and those have been the programs that consistently win championships, have the best academic performance and have the least amount of off the field issues. She’s a very intelligent and professional member of the staff and is also a good person outside of the work environment. Maybe someone like Carla is needed to get things back in line.

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Gret reporting Mark. I am pulling for Carla Williams. She is capable, qualified, and most important won’t have a zipper problem.

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You’re kidding, right?

“This is UGA. It is one of the top 5 AD jobs in the country.”

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UGA people Love this guy so much maybe UGA fans want him for the new AD.

Reggie Ball

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Look for Michael Adams to reach beyond the UGA circle for a national candidate who can stand next to Jeremy Foley. If he’s concerned about his image as so many people believe, and who wouldn’t be in his position, he has no choice.

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Matt Stinchcomb sounds like a great canidate for the next AD. We need a fresh start with someone who can build the UGA athletic program academically and athletically for decades to come…Great suggestion Dangerous!

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Mr Cox you are an IDIOT. Upwards mobility in a career isn’t always about affirmative action. What did Dooley have to gain by grooming a former UGA football player to be an AD one day? Maybe you have been overlook for promotions because of Affirmative Action discrimination….but your response indicates your have been overlooked due to INCOMPETENCE.

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Dang woman don’t know anything about football.

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Glad to find that the gentleman was Ed Tolly, a lawyer. I couldn’t imagine what Boston Blackie, with his pencil-thin mustache, was doing at UGA.

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Folks…UGA needs to have a ‘nation wide seach’ to find the best candidate…and low and behold…after all that seaching it just happens to be another African-American from a school with the worst record and would have been fired, but wasn’t for fear of his playing the race card…That is is how you find the best guy for the job…so please stop making all these ridiculous suggestions….

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I vote for Quincy Carter, almost a clone of Evans….imho.

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[...] media outlets are already linking McGarity as a hot name for Georgia to track. McGarity has a solid reputation at UF and is known as a sound decision-maker for Florida Athletics [...]

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Hire Evan’s soon-to-be ex-wife. You can almost be sure she will NEVER wear red panties! If y’all don’t like her, how about the apartment manager Who was accompanying Evans? Uh Oh, I forgot! She’s going to be busy getting Evans an apartment! Oh, the woes of the Bulldog Nation!

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Enough with the affirmative action experiment. Can we please get a man in there with a desire to win the national championship in every sport since UGA is already a world class academic institution?

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Carla Williams is my choice…She makes a powerful statement about UGA and its willingness to hire the best and brightest stars. The older guy would be a good assistant AD if he’d take it but not the AD position…he’d be old school and let’s keep things moving forward by looking ahead of the curve, not in our rear view mirror.

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This is what happens when you think with the wrong head.

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Sonny Sielar(?) the real Mutt Wrangler should get the job as AD.

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The white girl panties sealed the deal. No way a black man in America can survive that. And you know Saban hired that girl for $10,000 and when she pulled the panties off, Damon started hyperventilating and swerving all over the road just thinking about that forbidden fruit and bam, the planted trooper was right there. New century, same old. Can’t stand to see black succeed. Take ‘em down one at a time.

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Dylan you are right pick who you want and you can continue to have a top performing, hypocritical student /athlete programs. I’d surmise the relationships in Gainesville and Tuscaloosa are similar. When will the alumni demand a legitimate scholarship athlete program?

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Hiring a black woman for this position would be a terrible mistake. Anytime a black person has a position of power, they ALWAYS abuse it.

Blacks working for UGA should keep to cleaning the bathrooms and swepting the SLC.

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Pick Marcus Vick…he has white out parties where people get shot……good fit for that cowtown u call Athens.

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Is there any chance you will go back to writing non-UGA stories and leave the univ of GA headlines to Tucker, Towers and King? Please!

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What about Charley Whittemore??

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Thanks for all the great coverage, Mark! Great job from the whole AJC team! Y’all OWNED this story.

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this is a pathetic list. UGA can do much better than these.

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I already like Williams, just from the photo. She looks like she’s gonna help Mrs. Evans tear that fellow a new one (which would be doing him a favor).

And folks, Evans has a finance degree from the UGA b-school and could probably have been pulling down way more than half a million on Wall Street, which probably better suits his style.

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If you have a finance degree from UGa you “probably can pull down more than half a million on Wall St.???? WOW!!! It’s that easy—just with a finance degree from UGA! YeS!!! I’m enrolling ASAP and will be in the money soon after getting a finance degree!!!!!!! YES!!!!!

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Yep, Damon, pretty darn easy when you are a smart, well connected, capable minority (or otherwise). P.S. Must work 24/7 and sell soul to highest bidders (requires selling derivatives on said soul).

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just go to clark county superior court and get the next DUI driver that gets off with a warning.

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