Live from the ballpark, pondering life without Cox and Chipper

It’s a reflex: Something happens with the Braves, you ask the man in charge. So I sought out Bobby Cox on Wednesday afternoon, and I said: “If Chipper does quit, what do you do for a third baseman next year?”

Cox smiled. Then he said: “Not my problem.”

And that’s when it hit. For all the changes undergone by this organization these past two decades, nothing has or could prepare us for what’s surely coming next spring. We’ve seen the Braves without Tom Glavine and Greg Maddux; without John Smoltz and David Justice; without Terry Pendleton at third base and without Andruw Jones in center field … and we’ve heard them without Skip Caray and Pete Van Wieren … but we’ve never encountered anything like what’s apparently at hand.

No Bobby Cox in the dugout. No Chipper Jones batting third. No remaining touchstones to the era of baseball that made us care about the Braves in the first place.

Cox has announced his retirement. Chipper stands to announce his any day now. (After Wednesday’s game he said: “In good time.”) Yes, there’s symmetry there. As general manager, Cox drafted Jones No. 1 overall in June 1990, and since arriving in the big leagues to stay in September 1993 the great switch-hitter has known only one manager. And we on the periphery have come to regard them as a package deal.

We’re about to see the package unwrapped. We’re about to see the Braves work with two fewer numbers at their disposal. (Surely Nos. 6 and 10 will be retired along with their distinguished wearers.) We’re about to see the final holdovers from the run of excellence severed from the team they made great.

Think of it this way: Cox won division titles over 14 consecutive completed seasons managing the Braves, and if you credit Chipper as being part of the improbable 1993 NL West championship team — he was a September call-up — he was part of 12 first-place finishes. Only two other members of the 2010 club have been part of even one Atlanta division title: Tim Hudson and Brian McCann, each of whom arrived in 2005.

How would it feel, McCann was asked, to become the senior Brave among everyday players? Said McCann, who’s all of 26: “Until something happens [with Chipper], I don’t think that’s something I want to comment on.”

And what is there to say? We all knew the day was coming when the Braves would be without Cox and even without Chipper, but that won’t mean the day itself won’t hit us like a two-by-four upside the ol’ noggin.

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Back to the original premise of today’s exercise: What might the Braves do for a third baseman? I asked the ascendant Troy Glaus if relocation to first base is a permanent career move. He said no. “In my heart I’ll always be a third baseman. Actually, I’ll always be a shortstop, but we know that’s not going to happen. I could play third.”

For the Braves? In 2011? “Maybe,” Glaus said.

We’ll have plenty of time to bat this around these next few months. (Glaus, as we know, is working on a one-year contract and might be slugging his way out of the Braves’ price range.) But the question itself gives us pause: We’ve never had to ask what the Braves would do for a third baseman because we’ve come to expect Chipper to be standing on the left side of the infield, same as we expect to see Cox at the near end of the dugout.

Next year we might not see either. No Chipper at the hot corner. No Cox grousing about balls and strikes. No “Crazy Train” when the No. 3 spot comes up. No Cox with his awful nicknames.

No Bobby Cox and  no Chipper Jones. And what, Bill Acree was asked, would that mean?

Said Acree, the Braves’ director of travel/equipment manager and a team employee since 1966: “The world would come to an end.”

And it might. It just might.

With that, we’ll open the phone lines. (Which have been open all along, but bear with me.) I’ll be here to chat during tonight’s Braves-Rays games, and I’ll let you know if anyone retires. Unless I’m the retiree. In which case I’ll just close the computer and walk away.

228 comments Add your comment

todd grantham

June 16th, 2010
8:56 pm

Kane337

June 16th, 2010
8:56 pm

I luv me some Hinske!!!

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
8:56 pm

Hinske hits this one over the shift. And the wall.

curtis jones

June 16th, 2010
8:56 pm

Hinske in the lineup, and the Braves are winning. If only Cox would put him in the lineup more often…why are the fans the only ones who see this?

CaptainMudderland

June 16th, 2010
8:57 pm

There’s my boy…great, great job Eric!!!

Kane337

June 16th, 2010
8:58 pm

Will the Braves just please go ahead and sign Hinske to long term deal! His contributions to the team ar e just invaluable.

CaptainMudderland

June 16th, 2010
8:59 pm

When you pitch him in–he’ll get under your skin…and you’ll get skinned by Hinske!

Atlanta Native

June 16th, 2010
9:00 pm

Mark FM Bradley! I think you interact on blogs more than anyone else at the AJC!

Great job.

curtis jones

June 16th, 2010
9:00 pm

Biggest upgrade from 2009: Norton to the scrap heap, Hinske in the lineup.

Swamp Fox

June 16th, 2010
9:01 pm

why are the fans the only ones who see this?

They arent. Hinske cant hit LH pitching.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:01 pm

Thanks, Atlanta Native. We try.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:03 pm

Bobby Cox responds to the cries for more Hinske by removing him from the game. Gregor Blanco now playing center field. Melky Cabrera moves to left field.

Swamp Fox

June 16th, 2010
9:04 pm

Bigger question to me is why Hinkse cant seem to find a home. He is usually a productive player but he never seems to stay in one place very long. Economics I guess.

Delmar

June 16th, 2010
9:04 pm

I reckon we should keep Gregor Blanco around for the season. He’s a good helmet remover.

heartofdarkness

June 16th, 2010
9:05 pm

It’s been a great era for Braves baseball. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here.

Swamp Fox

June 16th, 2010
9:06 pm

Bobby Cox responds to the cries for more Hinske by removing him from the game. Gregor Blanco now playing center field. Melky Cabrera moves to left field.

Id say more than that he is trying to win the game. Getting his better defenders on the field. I love Hinkse bat but he is a brick in the OF.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:07 pm

You’re right, Swamp Fox. I was just joshin’.

Being Human

June 16th, 2010
9:09 pm

Michael Jenkins didn’t drop Ryan’s first pitch, did he?

CaptainMudderland

June 16th, 2010
9:10 pm

My boy is .222 vs. lefties, point well made, defensive move is smart–Eric doesn’t chase the gappers intrepidly…but as long as we win–ok

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:11 pm

No, Being Human. Tim Hudson made the catch.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:11 pm

Cox pulls Hanson. Brandon Hicks pinch-hitting.

Swamp Fox

June 16th, 2010
9:11 pm

You’re right, Swamp Fox. I was just joshin’.

I knew that. Problem is some of these knuckleheads wont and will get upset and then Bobby’s an idiot and blah blah blah.

Being Human

June 16th, 2010
9:12 pm

Sweet. Hudson just earned himself a side job for the fall.

lee

June 16th, 2010
9:14 pm

my only regret is that chipper is waiting it the end of the year to retire. like i have said before, it is not like he will play many more games before now and then anyway because he will be injured like he always is!! somone needs to be at third base that will has some hunger and appreciation of being out there and not the ENTITLEMENT that chipper always seems to feel about himself!! i think the comments brian jordan made a few months ago were spot on–but of course when somone started questioning “the entitled one” all @#@% broke out and even Jordon backed off his words!! chipper needs to retire now–he can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat, he stops running half way down the baseline while he is running, and falls all over himself in the field. I personally am so tired of what seems like his sense of entitlement!! go now chipper go now!!

Swamp Fox

June 16th, 2010
9:18 pm

i think the comments brian jordan made a few months ago were spot on

No they weren’t. Brian Jordan missed about 100 times more games due to injury than Chipper has over his career. Jordan was a decent player but not even in Chippers world. He should have kept his mouth shut.

Swamp Fox

June 16th, 2010
9:18 pm

I guess Chipper was entitled to walk.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:19 pm

Heh, heh. I laughed, Swampy.

The Ghost of Greg Norton

June 16th, 2010
9:20 pm

Maybe Brian should put his glasses back on.

OldTimer

June 16th, 2010
9:21 pm

Life goes on Mark. Perhaps you should join them. I’ll still be around.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:22 pm

Hanson threw 101 pitches. Strong game.

Moylan in.

Omar! Omar!

June 16th, 2010
9:22 pm

“Great Balls of Fire” seems over done (is “overdone” one word?).

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:25 pm

Attendance is 26,207.

The Ghost of Greg Norton

June 16th, 2010
9:26 pm

Moyland looking better than he has of late

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:27 pm

Here’s Willy Aybar. Traded for Wilson Betemit, if you remember.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:29 pm

Cox goes to Johnny Venters after Aybar walks.

The Ghost of Greg Norton

June 16th, 2010
9:29 pm

I spoke too soon.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:29 pm

I always speak too soon, Ghost of Norton.

Bobby Cox

June 16th, 2010
9:30 pm

I am fat.

And a wife beater

Omar! Omar!

June 16th, 2010
9:30 pm

I do recall the Betemit trade. But what did we get for Aybar when we traded him?

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:31 pm

The Braves got Jeff Ridgway from Tampa Bay.

Omar! Omar!

June 16th, 2010
9:33 pm

Jeff Ridgway. Hadn’t thought about him in a long time. His name always reminded me of Jeff Treadway, though.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:34 pm

I don’t know that I’ve ever given Jeff Ridgway a thought.

Omar! Omar!

June 16th, 2010
9:36 pm

So nice not to hear Chip yelling loudly when that flyball was hit.

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:40 pm

Cabrera with an RBI single. It’s 5-nil.

Omar! Omar!

June 16th, 2010
9:42 pm

Where did all the blog folk go?

Mark Bradley

June 16th, 2010
9:43 pm

Another three-hit game for Prado. And an RBI.

Omar! Omar!

June 16th, 2010
9:43 pm

I love Martin almost as much as Omarteen.

curtis jones

June 16th, 2010
9:47 pm

Blanco’s a keeper! 7 hits in a week. Did McLouth get 7 hits all year?

Swamp Fox

June 16th, 2010
9:50 pm

Where did all the blog folk go?

Braves are winning. Not much to complain about.

curtis jones

June 16th, 2010
9:50 pm

Be sure to watch tomorrow’s game. Idiot umpire Bill Hohn will be behind the plate, so at least one Brave will be tossed. Why MLB lets this hot-tempered, attention-seeking clown keep working is one the great unsolved mysteries of sports.