It’s a reflex: Something happens with the Braves, you ask the man in charge. So I sought out Bobby Cox on Wednesday afternoon, and I said: “If Chipper does quit, what do you do for a third baseman next year?”
Cox smiled. Then he said: “Not my problem.”
And that’s when it hit. For all the changes undergone by this organization these past two decades, nothing has or could prepare us for what’s surely coming next spring. We’ve seen the Braves without Tom Glavine and Greg Maddux; without John Smoltz and David Justice; without Terry Pendleton at third base and without Andruw Jones in center field … and we’ve heard them without Skip Caray and Pete Van Wieren … but we’ve never encountered anything like what’s apparently at hand.
No Bobby Cox in the dugout. No Chipper Jones batting third. No remaining touchstones to the era of baseball that made us care about the Braves in the first place.
Cox has announced his retirement. Chipper stands to announce his any day now. (After Wednesday’s game he said: “In good time.”) Yes, there’s symmetry there. As general manager, Cox drafted Jones No. 1 overall in June 1990, and since arriving in the big leagues to stay in September 1993 the great switch-hitter has known only one manager. And we on the periphery have come to regard them as a package deal.
We’re about to see the package unwrapped. We’re about to see the Braves work with two fewer numbers at their disposal. (Surely Nos. 6 and 10 will be retired along with their distinguished wearers.) We’re about to see the final holdovers from the run of excellence severed from the team they made great.
Think of it this way: Cox won division titles over 14 consecutive completed seasons managing the Braves, and if you credit Chipper as being part of the improbable 1993 NL West championship team — he was a September call-up — he was part of 12 first-place finishes. Only two other members of the 2010 club have been part of even one Atlanta division title: Tim Hudson and Brian McCann, each of whom arrived in 2005.
How would it feel, McCann was asked, to become the senior Brave among everyday players? Said McCann, who’s all of 26: “Until something happens [with Chipper], I don’t think that’s something I want to comment on.”
And what is there to say? We all knew the day was coming when the Braves would be without Cox and even without Chipper, but that won’t mean the day itself won’t hit us like a two-by-four upside the ol’ noggin.
Back to the original premise of today’s exercise: What might the Braves do for a third baseman? I asked the ascendant Troy Glaus if relocation to first base is a permanent career move. He said no. “In my heart I’ll always be a third baseman. Actually, I’ll always be a shortstop, but we know that’s not going to happen. I could play third.”
For the Braves? In 2011? “Maybe,” Glaus said.
We’ll have plenty of time to bat this around these next few months. (Glaus, as we know, is working on a one-year contract and might be slugging his way out of the Braves’ price range.) But the question itself gives us pause: We’ve never had to ask what the Braves would do for a third baseman because we’ve come to expect Chipper to be standing on the left side of the infield, same as we expect to see Cox at the near end of the dugout.
Next year we might not see either. No Chipper at the hot corner. No Cox grousing about balls and strikes. No “Crazy Train” when the No. 3 spot comes up. No Cox with his awful nicknames.
No Bobby Cox and no Chipper Jones. And what, Bill Acree was asked, would that mean?
Said Acree, the Braves’ director of travel/equipment manager and a team employee since 1966: “The world would come to an end.”
And it might. It just might.
With that, we’ll open the phone lines. (Which have been open all along, but bear with me.) I’ll be here to chat during tonight’s Braves-Rays games, and I’ll let you know if anyone retires. Unless I’m the retiree. In which case I’ll just close the computer and walk away.
228 comments Add your comment
curtis jones
June 16th, 2010
8:20 pm
More Ernie, less Chip!
annoying
June 16th, 2010
8:22 pm
DB stop encouraging loserville please
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
I don’t know, Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans. I think you have to wait at least an hour and a half before calling the game once it’s started, but you can resume it whenever its stops precipitating.
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
June 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
Loved Ernie Sr.
The excitement in his voice was real.
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
June 16th, 2010
8:24 pm
Oh, OK, makes sense. Thanks Mark.
Coulda sworn though.
a
June 16th, 2010
8:25 pm
I hate Ernie Johnson. So the fact that I’m enjoying this broadcast means I REALLY must hate Chip Caray.
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:25 pm
Mark! precipitating?? Surely a play on words!!!!
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:26 pm
Just trying to make conversation, Coach TG.
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:28 pm
“Hate” is a strong word there, “a”. They’re just walking in their dads’ footsteps, and not doing too badly. While their dads certainly are irreplaceable, it’s nice to hear their sons’ voices –helps us remember their dads.
I agree Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans! Ernie Sr — now there’s the epitome of a “legend”.
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:29 pm
like Pres W mixed up perpetrated and perpetuated and Calvary for cavalry.
CaptainMudderland
June 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
Yes sir, E.J., Sr. was the best…always polite and took the time to meet with fans–great person…happy birthday Mr, Johnson.
Geezer
June 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
Thank God KK can’t pitch tonight….I don’t even want him in the bullpen…..if he was we would be sure to lose…..Designate him for assignment somewhere in the deepest darkest part of Japan.
Bob Horner had a sweet compact swing
June 16th, 2010
8:34 pm
late post here…I think Heyward scores from 1st base on McCanns double..?? I know…I’m crying over spilt 2% milk….just sayin…
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:34 pm
OK, MB….it’s an official game now. Let the rain fall down there over Turner Field!
Jim Ragan
June 16th, 2010
8:35 pm
I say promote Cox back to the GM role he held in the late 80’s, because as the GM back then, he drafted many of the cornerstone players that became part of the Braves during the 1990s into the early part of the 2000s.
CaptainMudderland
June 16th, 2010
8:36 pm
Difference between last night and tonight is huge, really a gamble to pay that kind of sum for a pitcher from outside the AL/NL.
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:36 pm
@Bob Horner….I agree. But I think Snitker (whatever his name is) stopped him as they don’t want the last out to be at the plate. It evidently worked as Glaus batted both Heyward & McCann in.
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:36 pm
I was surprised Snitker stopped Heyward at third base. But he scored on Glaus’ single.
Jim Ragan
June 16th, 2010
8:37 pm
Would be quite a show if EJ would bring Charles Barkley to sit with him on a game……
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:38 pm
me too.
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:38 pm
@Jim….sure. However, Bobby’s what, 68. I think he’s done with baseball, period. I believe it’s already been arranged, though, that he does some consulting for a few years where every once in a while, he’ll pile into his pickup truck and mosey down to the Ted for a little MLB biz. But, he gets to go back home when he’s through. Ahhhh…semi-retirement. I can only dream as I’ll literally have to work until I drop dead.
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
It’s raining here.
Bill Stanfill
June 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
glaus is an RBI machine.
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
well, let’s talk UGA football.
Bob Horner had a sweet compact swing
June 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
point taken Tami….I’m happy the Braves are winning….but I’m jaded….I look for the negative….and usually can find it…….
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
MB…lightly raining, or picking up? Just wondering if you’re getting what we in north Cobb County had over an hour ago.
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
It’s a light rain.
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:42 pm
Richt will certainly be on the hot seat if Georgia loses to South Carolina and gets blown out by Florida
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:42 pm
Wow…amazing stats on Hanson: 17-7 is his record since he was called up a year ago, and has not had more than a 2-game losing streak. He’s bringing IT tonight!
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
light rain. near miss. just passed.
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
a twist of fate there!
Bob Horner had a sweet compact swing
June 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
todd, you had me at “lose to Florida”….why did keep typing..???
Delbert D.
June 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
So, did Matty throw a spiral?
What the heck does it matter that Bobby is 68? That’s really young these days. His knees might be a problem if he took my Honda for a ride, though. I’m 6′4″, and it doesn’t bother me.
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
LOL@ Bob: Yeah, I guess the negativity finds its place from time to time, right?
HA-HA! Nailed at the plate! Good job, Braves!
Light rain, MB? Maybe things will work out & there’ll be a complete game tonight.
HE’S OUT!!!! Throw Madden out of the game, ump! LOL
who cares?
June 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
One world series championship? Who cares. Cox beat his wife and Chipper got a divorce because he had a child with a Hotters weaitress. Maybe there judgement is a reflection of there inability to make good decisions?
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
Hemmell having a bad night for both sides
Delbert D.
June 16th, 2010
8:45 pm
todd grantham – I like my fate with a twist.
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:45 pm
Break for the Braves. Hank Blalock called out at the plate after Hanson threw one to the screen. He was safe, replay indicates. Looked safe to the naked eye.
CaptainMudderland
June 16th, 2010
8:45 pm
Dude clearly safe…Madden incensed,,,tough!
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:46 pm
bob, i’m getting tired of the blowouts in jacksonville.
Bob Horner had a sweet compact swing
June 16th, 2010
8:47 pm
My bad…I meant “poultry”….I used to be buddies w/ a chicken farmer….I helped him pick up 6wk old dead birds..(in July/August)
true story….Go Dawgs…!!!!
todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:47 pm
del, i do too, but only late.
who cares?
June 16th, 2010
8:48 pm
Hooters Waitress? Sorry the orange shorts and plastic surgery distracted me!
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:49 pm
@Delbert….age in Bobby’s case (or any other) wouldn’t normally matter. But, I think the age combined with the knees and his constantly promising his wife he’d retire all played a factor.
If my eyes (without the glasses …still) missed seeing the Rays runner was safe, sorry. He looked out to me on the replay I saw. But then again, the TV is to my back as I type.
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todd grantham
June 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
bob, i’ve got chickens named hazel, gladys, prissy, hubert and george. i think they’re crazy because they talk back to me.
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Tampa Bay still without a run.
Tami
June 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
whew….got out of that 6th inning still scoreless!
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
Tool Race. I’ve got Saw.
Mark Bradley
June 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
Saw wins! And I cheated! I waited until the race was half-over to make a pick.