ESPN report: The Hawks aren’t on Chris Bosh’s wish list

Chad Ford of ESPN.com reports that Chris Bosh, whom some have seen a possible target for the Hawks, has told the Toronto, his current team, he’ll consider signing with four other NBA clubs besides the Raptors. And the Hawks didn’t make the cut.

According to Ford, Bosh’s wish list includes the Bulls, the Lakers, the Heat and the Knicks. (By identifying his choices, Bosh is trying to give the Raptors a head start should a sign-and-trade be warranted.)

To me, the Bosh-to-the-Hawks thinking never made a lick of sense. Yeah, he played at Georgia Tech, but not for very long. He was here from 2002-2003 and somehow didn’t qualify for the NCAA tournament because — stop me if you’ve heard this — Paul Hewitt couldn’t figure out how to get him the ball.

As for the the Hawks: They keep getting ripped because they start what some consider a power forward at center. (I disagree. I regard Al Horford as a center, and a fine one. And I’d say his All-Star selection bolsters my case.) But landing Bosh would give the Hawks yet another power forward and would do one of two things:

1. It would force Josh Smith, who should have been an All-Star, to move to small forward, which is not where you want him. (Give Smith license to shoot more jump shots by stationing him on the perimeter? Smooth move.) Or …

2. It would force the Hawks to trade either Smith or Horford, and they’re both younger and cheaper than Bosh will be after this summer. If you trade Smith, you’ve lost your best open-court player, and the belief is that the Hawks’ next coach will stress an uptempo game; if you trade Horford, you’ve lost your team leader and your defensive anchor.

See, constructing a real roster is different from Rotisserie basketball. Numbers aren’t the only consideration. The team needs to mesh in real life. The frontcourt pairing of Wilt Chamberlain and Nate Thurmond should have dominated the ’60s, but it never quite worked and Wilt wound up getting traded from San Francisco to Philadelphia.

But now the Bosh scenario would seem moot, and I’m glad to hear it. Whatever ails the Hawks, he isn’t the cure.

129 comments Add your comment

MightyQuinn

May 21st, 2010
4:39 pm

Could it be that I’m….

MightyQuinn

May 21st, 2010
4:39 pm

Mark Bradley

May 21st, 2010
4:40 pm

Come on without, come on within. You’ll not see nothing like the MightyQuinn, who’s … first!

jarvis

May 21st, 2010
4:41 pm

MB, if you want him, I think he sucks.

jarvis

May 21st, 2010
4:42 pm

But since you don’t….I’m sick that he doesn’t want to come here.

jarvis

May 21st, 2010
4:46 pm

He didn’t start at Center by the way. That was Josh Howard…a true five.

Dr. Warren

May 21st, 2010
4:48 pm

Any word on Loughery’s status? Have the Hawks arranged the interview yet???

MightyQuinn

May 21st, 2010
4:49 pm

Oh the joy! Kudos to you for my family fav song! On topic, MB, why is the ATL still not on any major FA’s wish list? Indeed we seem to a pariah city! I could understand it when it was a basketball abyss here, but not anymore. Your thoughts?

MightyQuinn

May 21st, 2010
4:49 pm

Thats, “seem to BE a pariah city”. Fire my editor!

Reggie

May 21st, 2010
4:55 pm

Mark

What moves would you make if you were the Hawks GM?

ParkerManholePounder69

May 21st, 2010
4:57 pm

Ok, so Bosh down, now how about news on lists for LeBron, Wade, Nowitzki, Joe, blah blah, but where’s Ridnour and Raja Bell going?

Pat Summitt should be considered coach of your Atlanta Hawks in 10-11

F-105 Thunderchief

May 21st, 2010
5:08 pm

Ooh. Scary formatting with centered text. Not liking. On topic, not sad not to get Bosch.

Mark Bradley's Hitting Coach....Greg Norton

May 21st, 2010
5:16 pm

Just do a sign and trade with Cleveland – Marvin and Smoove and LeBron. That should solve everything. Right?

BrittishAnger

May 21st, 2010
5:18 pm

Chris Bosh is the newest generation of the Tracy McGrady character; I don’t trust his ability to translate his game into post-season play, and he will end up being an albatross for whoever picks him up. We have better fish to ponder on the horizon, leave Bosh’s name out….

Todd - Dacula

May 21st, 2010
5:21 pm

MB, Moving Josh (Smoove – who you peeps call him – Smoove he’s not) to small forward would be the worst move. Josh is, by far, the worst shooter on the team and he is lazy. This guy NEVER shoot teh ball with the same form twice. Josh has no outside shot; simply luck when it falls. I am not sure if we are speaking of the same player, but if it’s the one on the current Hawks roster, perhaps you have your eyes closed when watching him and imagining another player :)

Trade the home town boy; he’s everything he appears to be.

Gordon

May 21st, 2010
5:21 pm

Tech should, stop me if you’ve heard this, fire Paul Hewitt.

BrittishAnger

May 21st, 2010
5:22 pm

Hey Mark, give me a link that would basically be considered a “Salary Cap Holds for Dummies”….I’m trying to really ponder our best options going forward, and picking up that piece of the puzzle would help greatly….

Hawks Fan

May 21st, 2010
5:25 pm

Hry Bosh,
You ain’t on our wish list either!

Grumpy

May 21st, 2010
5:26 pm

3 of the final 4 NBA teams have GREAT guard play – Rondo, Nelson, and Nash; the 4th team has the best player in the game today.

You need above average guard play AND one top-line All-Star to even think about winning a title. I think Horford can be that All-Star, even at center. But where’s the guard play coming from?

MannyT

May 21st, 2010
5:30 pm

Major free agents want more money than the Hawks have cap room. Mid level free agents have not warmed to Atlanta either. Until there is a coach, a move here seems risky. Until you know what JJ is going to do, a move here could be even riskier. Until you know if you can latch on with the same team as a major free agent, why plant your flag here?

If we look back over the past 10 years, good free agents don’t come here. Maybe that will change this summer once things shake out.

It’s up to Sund to dial up some roster improvement…and that includes a new coach.

What will he do??????????????????

Remarkable

May 21st, 2010
5:32 pm

Mark,
Please answer Reggie, “What does ail the Hawks?” Answer that and we will all have something to talk about!

Najeh Davenpoop

May 21st, 2010
5:32 pm

Bosh’s no-defense-playing, stick-figure azz shouldn’t be on the Hawks’ wish list either, for all the reasons mentioned in the article. Horford can guard Howard better than Bosh.

GooseDawg

May 21st, 2010
5:33 pm

Grumpy,

Good point, we need a point guard! Is Jeff T. the answer? Can’t know for sure YET cause Woody didn’t get him nearly enough minutes. I sure hope so.

DamnIt

May 21st, 2010
5:37 pm

Horford is a power forward

Josh Smith is a “defensive” small forward

Dwight Howard is a center,

1) get a legit center and upgrade the overall size of the rotation
2) this moves Horford to the power forward and punishes small ball teams

3) move Josh Smith to the wing ala James Worthy
4) incorporate an offense that focuses on Josh Smith/Al Horford posting up smaller players
ala “Showtime Lakers”

***Bosh is a top player in the NBA but Hawks need a defensive center to match up with Orlando, they can get away with a smaller lineup against Boston but Orlando will punish them 4 years to come unless they find a way to make Dwight Howard work for his buckets (see Kendrick Perkins)

Fred

May 21st, 2010
5:38 pm

Why don’t players want to come to Atlanta? Correct me if I’m wrong because I don’t follow thugball too much, but isn’t the ownership of the Hawks in a state of disarray and in litigation? Just like anyone else, players, even thugball players, want some stability.

"Chef" Tim Dix

May 21st, 2010
5:44 pm

My read on Sund is the feeling is mutual.

MightyQuinn

May 21st, 2010
5:45 pm

I agree with ASG being a reason guys don’t want to come here. I’m wondering if there is anything else.

Not Drinking the Kool - Aid

May 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

Chris Bosh is not what the Hawks need. First, you don’t want a guy who does not want be in Atlanta. Second, Bosh is another fade-away jump shooting big man a la Shareef Abdur Raheem, that is too much money for a soft big man. Todd in Dacula and the rest of you guys killing Josh Smith, I don’t know if you have watched Josh all season but I have watched probably 80% of there games this season. Josh Smith may have shown laziness in the playoffs and at the end of the season, but for the majority of the season Josh ignited the Hawks defense and protected Bibby, Joe, and J. Crawford on defense. Josh also made Joe, Al, Jamal, Bibby, and Marvin look good with nice touch passing. Josh also was key in getting those blow out wins against the Celtics running up and down the floor beating the big men of Boston. So when I see him jacking up shots in the playoff, and getting back lazily on defense. Or I see Josh shooting a jumper after J.J. pounds the ball into the floor and passes after about fifteen seconds,I kind of understand and give Josh somewhat of a pass because as a young guy doing all the things he has done during the season, not getting many accolades, not getting foul calls, and playing for Woody is kind of frustrating. Josh is an easy target because he is so emotional on the court but proper coaching can fix this. But to simply harp on the two problems he had during the playoffs is just kind of foolish conversation and shows a lack of knowledge in judging a players work over the Hawks whole season. Josh is probably in the top five of NBA players on purely talent alone in the NBA today. This is why he won’t be traded because with the right coaching Josh can be an NBA all star and a nice piece on a championship team. Further what trade of value could you get for Josh?

Jody

May 21st, 2010
5:52 pm

Shouldn’t be a suprise to anyone considering the Hawks have two starter quality power forwards. And you’re insane if you think Al Horford wouldn’t be an all-star at the 4. That’s selling his talent WAY short.

Not Drinking the Kool - Aid

May 21st, 2010
5:59 pm

Mark, we don’t won’t Rupaul’s soft defense, fade-away jump shooting butt on the Hawks either. Thank God, Rupaul wants to go to N.Y., Chicago, or the Heat; maybe they are dumb enough to give him a truck full of money. L.A. don’t want him either.

Greg

May 21st, 2010
6:01 pm

Who wants to play for this cruddy team. They all stink

AG

May 21st, 2010
6:03 pm

Damit, why can’t you understand what Mark and a lot of us are already saying, WE HAVE A CENTER!!!!! That is the LAST problem we have. WE NEED A POINT GUARD AND A SMALL FORWARD. WE NEED A DEEPER BENCH!!!! I don’t want Josh at the 3. He is to valuable hanging around down low on help defense. Name the four centers left..Perkins, Bynum, Howard and ??? for Phoenix. If I had my choice to make a trade for any of those guys for either Hortford or Smith, I would choose our guys (except for Howard). It is like 10 years ago and you were trying to get a center in Shaq’s caliber and not having Shaq. It is worse today because it is not a center league. The days of Mourning, Ewing, Robinson, Hakeem, etc. are over!! There are not that many good centers anymore. GET OVER IT!

AG

May 21st, 2010
6:06 pm

Go play playstation and create a center, that is the only way we will get a center. Anything else is a project i.e Kwame Brown, ZaZa, Morrison, etc. I also hear on the playstation you should start Mo Evans over Marvin Williams. Mo jumps out of the gym and has a great 3 point shot!

Jody

May 21st, 2010
6:09 pm

And there’s a reason why the Hawks get murdered inside by bigger teams and are at home and those centers are still playing. The numbers don’t lie.

Luke Cage

May 21st, 2010
6:09 pm

Told all these clowns that Bosh ain’t coming here, marquee players don’t even mention the Hawks as any kind of destination except to party at strip clubs….so if Joe goes NOW who yall want this time? Wade, Lebron, Stoudamire or any other so called top flight star aint showing up, so stop dreaming and try to work on getting to that level where these guys want to come and play here

Sautee

May 21st, 2010
6:21 pm

Funny how Horford is CERTAINLY considered a center by those closest to the league – the coaches. You know, the ones who named him to the ALL-STAR TEAM.

Unless, like Truth-serum, you believe that the coaches were conspiring against the Hawks and naming him so that we wouldn’t go after a center. LOL.

Luke Cage

May 21st, 2010
6:26 pm

Very intriged by possibly getting Rudy Gay

Jody

May 21st, 2010
6:29 pm

Horford was selected at center because that’s the position he plays. He’s a very talented big man, but that doesn’t mean center is his best position. He even said, as have many other former great nba players, that he’s a power forward. If LeBron had played point guard all season, he’d have been selected to the All-Star game as a point guard because that would have been the position he played.

ryan

May 21st, 2010
6:34 pm

Lets face it Atlanta is not a pro sports town all the big time super stars want to play in New York , L.A. , Chi Town Atlanta will never have a big name.

John Brown

May 21st, 2010
6:34 pm

Bosh reminds me a lot of Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Power forward who puts up monster numbers on a bad Canadian team…Check out his stats for his years pre-age 25 : http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdursh01.html Very similar numbers, and we all remember what a winner he was…; ). And, we’re not trading Horford or Smith. I say re-sign Joe, and sign and trade for Amare. Give them Marvin and Chill and a draft pick….Better than the Suns outright losing him. Or of course al of our first choice:sign and trade for LeBron, and sign Joe as his sidekick, but that’s fairly improbable.

John Brown

May 21st, 2010
6:36 pm

Was saying all of our 1st choice, not Al by the way.

D Hawks

May 21st, 2010
6:37 pm

Is this really news? He picked 3 teams with lots of cap space and the defending NBA champs. That would be my wish list too. Let’s get a good coach first, and that will determine a lot about the pieces that are needed to get this team to the next level.

John Brown

May 21st, 2010
6:38 pm

Just saw a report of a 2nd interview of Avery with Hawks: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5208949 Any word on that MB?

Picky Picky

May 21st, 2010
6:42 pm

Good! Anyone with hair that ugly is too ugly for the A!

Jody

May 21st, 2010
6:42 pm

If you look at his list, you’ll notice it’s the same list of teams (excluding the Lakers) that’s in contention for Lebron. It’s obvious he wants to either play with the Lakers (sign and trade for Bynum) or he wants to be wherever Lebron goes. While the Hawks stand pat, the other teams in the East will be getting bigger and better.

D Hawks

May 21st, 2010
6:48 pm

Oh one more thing: the Lakers have the highest payroll so they have no problem with paying a luxury tax to stay on top. Hmm, let’s see…if you can get paid well and play for the best team would you do it? We are kidding ourselves if we think that money isn’t the first consideration for these guys and their agents. Every one of them has already created a short list that won’t be much different from this one, give or take a Chicago or a New Jersey being added. Joe Johnson didn’t come here because Atlanta was a basketball mecca; he came here because we were the only team willing to pay him to be the #1.

Blast

May 21st, 2010
6:50 pm

Screw Bosh. He’s soft. Hawks needs bangers.

UGa Fan

May 21st, 2010
6:54 pm

Who cares ? He wouldn’t fit here anyway.

BB DREAMER

May 21st, 2010
7:02 pm

MARVIN WILLIAMS OVER CHRIS PAUL!!!! ITS GONNA TAKE 10 YEARS TO RECOVER FROM THAT BAD MISTAKE…

7:02

May 21st, 2010
7:02 pm