The Atlanta Hawks have sought and received permission from the Dallas Mavericks to speak with Mavs assistant Dwane Casey regarding the Hawks’ coaching job, according to a person familiar with the situation.
Through team spokesperson Arthur Triche, Hawks general manager Rick Sund declined to comment.
The Hawks made their request Saturday, one day after announcing they would not offer Mike Woodson a contract extension. The request was granted by Dallas GM Donnie Nelson.
In Sunday’s edition of the New York Daily News, Mitch Lawrence identified Casey as the favorite to succeed Woodson. (Lawrence also reported that the Hawks are up for sale, which would be major news.)
Casey worked under Rick Sund as an assistant to Nate McMillan for five seasons when the Hawks’ general manager was GM of the Seattle SuperSonics. Casey interviewed for the Hawks’ coaching job in 2004, when then-GM Billy Knight chose Woodson instead.
Casey was the head coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves for a season and a half but was fired by then-GM Kevin McHale in January 2007 when the T-Wolves were 20-20. (The team would finish 32-50.) Casey’s record as an NBA head coach is 53-69.
The reasons for Casey’s firing in Minnesota have never been delineated. But ESPN.com Insider John Hollinger called the move “McHale’s Folly” and wrote: “Somebody, anybody, tell me what [Casey] did wrong.”
Casey has already been interviewed by the New Orleans Hornets for their coaching vacancy and is believed to be in the mix for the Chicago Bulls’ job.
(Oh, and if you’re wondering what I think of Dwane Casey: As noted earlier, he’d be my first choice.)
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Bill
May 16th, 2010
1:41 pm
GREAT !! Hope they sign him soon. Thanks for info Mark.
TROTTINGHOME
May 16th, 2010
1:47 pm
Casey got fired cause he wasn’t a part of McHale’s Navy…da BOOB is still a joke.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
1:49 pm
Wouldn’t that have made Kevin Garnett Ensign Parker?
Shooter McGruder
May 16th, 2010
1:54 pm
Does he know offense? Will he get after their butt and not put up with laziness, complaining to the ref etc…?
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
1:56 pm
Dwane Casey is a good basketball man who’s good with players, Mr. McGruder. I’m guessing he has a feeling what will be required here. He does his homework.
show me state
May 16th, 2010
1:59 pm
As long as he’s the coach to get da hawks to da next level……..
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"Chef" Tim Dix
May 16th, 2010
2:08 pm
From the pic above I’d hire him for two reasons: One, dome gloss is not a priority and two, that steely look will require players attention over the kiss cam.
mountain_jim
May 16th, 2010
2:09 pm
Thanks for the update Mark. I am hopeful that the next coach can be an offensive and defensive strategist, or at least have the self-assuredness to have trusted go-to assistants for those areas.
"Chef" Tim Dix
May 16th, 2010
2:11 pm
Show Me State: Please I’m begging you and others to stop with the next level barf, OK?
It’s always championships or various degrees of loserdom. (Mark, is that a word?)
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:11 pm
I believe it is now, Chef Tim.
leland
May 16th, 2010
2:14 pm
Dear Mr. MB–is that “Dwayne” or “DeWayne?” Your pal, Leland
Bullwinkle
May 16th, 2010
2:14 pm
I just wish we had hired him in ‘04.
AVERY JOHNSON
May 16th, 2010
2:20 pm
What about ME!!!!
AVERY JOHNSON
May 16th, 2010
2:20 pm
Mark, you think I can get the job done?
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:21 pm
It’s Dwane. One fewer letter than “leland.”
Chuy
May 16th, 2010
2:22 pm
We need a coach that would be wiiling to stand up to our squad full of spoiled, brattish millionaires? Someone who is not scared of making the necessary moves to get this team to actually play like a team. Who cares if he’s good with players, can he get the players to play good is the real question.
Look at the teams left in the playoffs, they all have coaches that get their respective teams to respond to their coaching.
Just my thought.
Grandad
May 16th, 2010
2:22 pm
Mark – I asked this on a previous blog. If you already answered,
my apologies, as I missed it. Would you put the Ky. scandel, and
his involvement, to rest for me. Long time ago and I’m sure he
has since overcome whatever happened.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:22 pm
I must say I’m a bit dubious about Avery Johnson, AVERY JOHNSON. The collapse against D-Wade in 2006 lingers in my memory.
norcrossfan
May 16th, 2010
2:23 pm
do players respect mr. casey?
Jerry Maguire
May 16th, 2010
2:23 pm
Actually, MB, does anyone know what Avery’s contract demands would be?
Is he that high-priced?
ntrigue
May 16th, 2010
2:25 pm
We need Steve Smith as coach!!!!
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:25 pm
It’s hard to say, Jerry Maguire. On the one hand, he hasn’t had a coaching job in a while. On the other, he’s got the TV thing.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:27 pm
Mark Madsen, who played for Casey with the Timberwolves, posted on his blog that Casey had the respect of everyone. And this was after McHale canned him.
ntrigue
May 16th, 2010
2:27 pm
Avery would not be a good fit for our team hes a good coach but we dont need him!
ntrigue
May 16th, 2010
2:28 pm
Mark,
Is Steve Smith in the running for coach?
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:29 pm
I don’t know why anyone who has never coached would be in line to be a head coach, ntrigue.
Dr. Warren
May 16th, 2010
2:30 pm
Message to Sund: Please consider former Hawks head coach KEVIN LOUGHERY. From what I understand from a prominent sports agent in NY, KL is interested in getting back into the NBA. The guy has won everywhere he’s been, including here in the 80’s. (Two playoff trips). MJ loved playing for him in Chicago. He’s 70, sure, but Hubie Brown was older than that when he improved Memphis.
Prison Mike
May 16th, 2010
2:31 pm
Dwade? How about in prime Shaq, Posey, Mourning. Anyway, Casey didn’t do a bad job considering the talent he had in Minny. Hindsight shows how many career backup players that were actually starting for him. Mchale should have fired himself.
ntrigue
May 16th, 2010
2:32 pm
Doc Rivers had never coached and he was selected by the Celtics its always exceptions to the rule. Steve knows this team in and out and the players respect him! He knows what we need to go to the next level!
Eric
May 16th, 2010
2:33 pm
How about Laimbeer? We need a guy to teach our guys some toughness and intensity and there was nobody better at that than Laimbeer. I would to bring him on board with Mahorn and Salley as assistants.
Joe
May 16th, 2010
2:35 pm
Okay good I hope he’s the next coach.
marcus
May 16th, 2010
2:36 pm
casey would be a great addition to the hawks. they would be able to add crawford and teague to the starting lineup and he’d relegate bibby to a back up (which i am certain he will be comfortable with). now the hawks need to find a replacement for the aged joe smith to help with their frontcourt issues. the next season will find the hawks playing for the eastern conference championship (regardless what that boob in cleveland does).
Jerry Maguire
May 16th, 2010
2:38 pm
Eric,
I agree: Laimbeer. That guy just doesn’t care what people think about him. He just wants to win.
Jerry Maguire
May 16th, 2010
2:39 pm
I would veto the “Salley as an assistant” call, though.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:40 pm
I saw Laimbeer and Rick Mahorn coaching against the Atlanta Dream in the WNBA a couple of years ago. Still the tag team.
Devil's Advocate
May 16th, 2010
2:41 pm
If Casey was fired so unjustly in Minnesota, why is he just now getting another crack at a head coaching gig?
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:41 pm
I’m not certain about Mike Bibby as a sub, marcus. I’m not sure he’d go for that.
Dr. Warren
May 16th, 2010
2:42 pm
Jerry Maguire: not caring what people think seemed to be Billy Knight’s modus operandi, as well. And he wanted to win, too. Be careful what you wish for.
J-Sid
May 16th, 2010
2:42 pm
@ntrigue: Actually, Doc Rivers had a stint as the head coach of the Orlando Magic prior to being hired by the Celtics. I believe he got the team to the playoffs once, losing in the 1st round. This was during the Tracy McGrady era in Orlando.
Dr. Warren
May 16th, 2010
2:47 pm
Casey could be a fine ass’t to Kevin Loughery for a couple of years and then eased into the head coaching job like Jim Mora was in Seattle. (With better results, hopefully).
Grim Reaper
May 16th, 2010
2:49 pm
Dr. Warren, what’s up with your love of Kevin Loughery?
How old is that guy now?
WNBA execs
May 16th, 2010
2:50 pm
MB,
You actually SAW a WNBA game?
Live?
In person?
Wow.
We got next!
Reverse Discrimination
May 16th, 2010
2:51 pm
Clearly the NBA and the city government of Atlanta is almost an exclusive “black” membership but are there any non black candidates up for genuine consideration? I keep hearing mostly about Avery, Casey, Smith and Rivers to replace Woodson but I seem to recall a few non black coaches who have won an NBA title or two. Seriously, are many of you not so privately suggesting that only another black man can command the respect and attention get the most out of the Hawk’s previously referenced lackadaisical players?
Dr. Warren
May 16th, 2010
2:51 pm
He just turned 70, but he’s sharp as a Clyde Frazier-on-a-road-trip-3-piece-suit.
Dookie
May 16th, 2010
2:51 pm
This is so typical. Atlanta, as a metro-area, is a MAJOR US market. Yet, due to this ownership group, we have to play like a small market, including getting coaches like this. If you want to play with the big boys, you have to take some calculated risks and spend the money. You can’t convince me with this resume that Casey is better than Avery Johnson. Your concern about the Mavs collapse against the Heat is still better than a sub-.500 record and no head coaching jobs since getting canned from the T-Wolves..
uga111111
May 16th, 2010
2:52 pm
Bring back Mike Woodson…………not
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
2:54 pm
The book Walt Frazier and Ira Berkow co-wrote back in the ’70s — “Rockin’ Steady” — still about my favorite sports tome, Dr. Warren. Mr. Berkow tells some great tales about working with Clyde on that effort.
LOL!
May 16th, 2010
2:56 pm
Mark Bradley what kind of offense do casey run
Dr. Warren
May 16th, 2010
2:56 pm
ATLANTA-native, Clyde Frazier. Sharp-dresser, and his suade Pumas have been best-sellers for 3 decades…I’ve gotta pick up that book, MB.
Borat
May 16th, 2010
2:57 pm
Nice work of the “not” joke, UGA111111.
AVERY JOHNSON
May 16th, 2010
2:58 pm
Thanks Dookie, I agree with every word.
show me state
May 16th, 2010
2:58 pm
I stand corrected by my first statement…..
HAWKSFAN
May 16th, 2010
2:58 pm
Is it possible to get a coach who is a proven offensive & defensive strategist? Honestly, I’ve never heard anything great about Casey. It’s good that he has coaching experience, but we really need an experienced strategist; mentor; “true” coach who can help develop young, immature players; and analyst who can assess what’s not working during and after a game with the thought of implementing the necessary changes as needed, possibly on the spot. A real leader is needed. Is that Casey? If so, great. If not, continue looking and stray away from hasty decisions.
Keith Hernandez
May 16th, 2010
2:59 pm
He is a sharp dresser, his beard is not weird, and he can always get some play from Miss Hotty.
zzzzzzzzzzzz
Laimbeer for Coach
May 16th, 2010
3:00 pm
Laimbeer
Laimbeer
Laimbeer
Coach K's the way...
May 16th, 2010
3:02 pm
There’s likely not a chance in the world he’d jump for this ludicrous Hawk’s ownership and imbecile run city government of Atlanta but I throw the best possible offer to the best college coach since John Wooten and a man who just coming off his latest NCAA title would clearly command the player’s respect and attention…Mike Krzyzewski.
Maybe we could get lucky and he wants a new challenge before he walks away from it all?
tony
May 16th, 2010
3:02 pm
This is absolutely atrocious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The owners of this team should be banned from owning a nba team. This hire would be a complete insult to the City of Atlanta. This could be the last yr I will ever what another hawks game if they hire this guy.
Scott Anderson
May 16th, 2010
3:03 pm
this guy ?
why dont we just bring in Dominique Wilkins to coach.
We would get about the same results.
thats pathetic
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:03 pm
Casey runs the Four Corners, LOL!
Nah. I imagine he’d run the standard NBA offense — heavy on pick-and-rolls, less heavy (at least less heavy than Woodson) on isolations.
MrHughes
May 16th, 2010
3:03 pm
I agree with some of the things Dookie said. We can never pull any names here that are known and proven like Avery, It’s frustrating.Someone please find an owner for us who will spend the money necessary for us to be a contender! Especially how are team is made up now, we can probably get any coach we want because we’re a playoff team already, yet we go for sub 500 coaches….
HAWKSFAN
May 16th, 2010
3:05 pm
MB, what are you saying? Do you believe that Casey can truly get the job done?
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:05 pm
Yes. I wrote last week than Casey would be my pick.
A.T.
May 16th, 2010
3:06 pm
@Reverse Discrimination: Nice try on the race baiting but the only racism here is coming from you. The best candidates available right now (that also fit our style and more importantly, budget) happen to be black. Guys like Doug Collins, Fratello, etc are not what we need at this stage. Been there, done that. And of course you failed to mention the most obvious reason for Casey being in the lead; He has worked with our white GM before. But don’t let that get in the way of your hatred for the “black city”.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:06 pm
Hinske with an opposite-field home run. It’s 6-1.
greg
May 16th, 2010
3:06 pm
I think Avery Johnson is the perfect fit. without a legitimate center , pand playing in the east, it may not even matter who’s the coach.
LOL!
May 16th, 2010
3:07 pm
Pick and rolls sounds good to me i forgot how that look being ran in a hawks uniform. Thanks Mark
BravesAreDone
May 16th, 2010
3:07 pm
good let’s hire someone with a losing record.
Bigstack O' Pancakes. It's an Irish name!
May 16th, 2010
3:09 pm
Hopefully he will crack the whip and focus Josh Smith so he can be a force like a Garnett. Hopefully he will make Marvin into a solid offensive option. Team won’t get past Orlando without a big man or someone who can take over a game in crunch time and will this team to victory.
JMar
May 16th, 2010
3:10 pm
Anyone with eyebrows will be a better coach than his predecessor.
HAWKSFAN
May 16th, 2010
3:10 pm
Okay, Mark. I believe in giving people a chance, because I’m truly impressed with Doc Rivers’ performance. I didn’t see the level of success that he’s achieved coming so soon. So, Casey deserves further thought. Thanks!
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:10 pm
Handling Josh Smith will be one of the biggest tasks facing the new coach. No doubt, Bigstack.
Steve
May 16th, 2010
3:11 pm
I think Mike Brown is about to be canned as Cavs coach – how about him? Could do the ol’ Houston Nutt thing – I don’t think he is a bad coach.
By the way, ESPN thinks a lot of Woody – one of the best play drawers during a timeout according to league consensus the say – wow!
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:13 pm
Let’s think about that, Steve: He just lost in the same round as the Hawks with the best player in the world. Not sure Mike Brown’s resume is really strong at present.
A.T.
May 16th, 2010
3:13 pm
@Steve: I read that ESPN article as well and nearly choked on my muffin. What drunken scouts did they talk to?
Hire Back Woody!!
May 16th, 2010
3:19 pm
Casey? Are you serious???? He was a total bust in minnesota! The hawks need to hire Woodson back—he got them to the playoffs. Casey—mediocrity and no playoffs—mark it down!
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:20 pm
You know, Woodson actually WAS pretty good out of timeouts. It was when he didn’t call timeout that the offense went pear-shaped.
MAP
May 16th, 2010
3:22 pm
The Hawks need a proven WINNER as the new head coach that brings a respect factor and credibility….Avery Johnson, Byron Scott, or Sam Mitchell. As a season ticket holder and long time fan, this is what I would like to see. This would also help in bringing notable free agents this summer. Not a current asst coach…..Dwane Casey??? Come on!!!!!!
MrHughes
May 16th, 2010
3:23 pm
Also, if woody beat him out of the job.. what does that say about Casey?
HAWKSFAN
May 16th, 2010
3:25 pm
No, MB. Woodson WAS NOT pretty good out of timeouts. I never thought Woodson had a plan or clue on what to do next.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:25 pm
Remember, Woodson was a hot guy in 2004. Coming off the Detroit NBA title.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:26 pm
Sam Mitchell a proven winner? He had one winning season.
Joey
May 16th, 2010
3:29 pm
Mark, does this mean the players will now be paid in cash, mailed to them in envelopes?
Reid Adair
May 16th, 2010
3:30 pm
Mark, you called this early on. I truly hope Dwane Casey is the choice. Surely he will get serious consideration from Rick Sund.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:33 pm
Now, Joey. Let’s be nice.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:34 pm
I can’t imagine Sund wouldn’t have some interest, Reid. But that’s me guessing. Sund is pretty good at saying nothing.
Dr. Warren
May 16th, 2010
3:34 pm
Same DAILY NEWS article MB provided also says the Hawks are up for sale. Maybe there is hope for some deeper pockets after all….(and let’s hope we can keep them here rather than Vegas or Seattle).
Joey
May 16th, 2010
3:37 pm
You’re right, I take it back. What can you do when you boss gives you a job to do . . .
Steve
May 16th, 2010
3:41 pm
Mark, I think your probably right – if you can’t win with LeBron, Shaq, Antwan Jameson etc., probably not going to win with the Hawks – just tossing names out – hope Casey does great if he gets it, but looking for more of a proven guy (not Kevin Loughery or Mike Fratello) – not sure the right guys out there…..How about Scott Skiles since he outcoached Woody in that 1st round?
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
3:42 pm
Scott Skiles is under contract, Steve. This isn’t like college basketball where you can poach at will. (But I agree that Skiles is a fine coach.)
Long Term Memory
May 16th, 2010
3:42 pm
Hmmm, hiring a coach that has never gotten a team to the playoffs after not re-resigning a coach whose teams at least got into the playoffs. Gonna be a long couple of winless years.
Stuck In Kentucky
May 16th, 2010
3:43 pm
Mark, remind me of Casey’s role in the UK/Sutton stuff and why isn’t Laimbeer getting some attention. He has paid his dues, will get respect from the players with his rep as a player on a multi title team. In my opinion this is the guy for this team and if Mahorn and Salley can come that would be even better. They could probably still come off the bench if need be.
Marcus (aka decatur g)
May 16th, 2010
3:46 pm
Seems like, from a familiarity standpoint, that Casey’s candidacy has a leg up on everyone else.
Sund knows him from SEA, management knows him from being a previous candidate in ‘04. Only folks that don’t know him are the players on the current roster.
Also, seems like his salary demands would be more in-line with ASGs slot for the job vs. a candidate w/previous HC experience.
we shall see.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
4:00 pm
Casey’s name was on the airbill of an Emery envelope that popped open in transit and contained money. The addressee was Claud Mills, father of UK recruit Chris Mills.
Hawks73
May 16th, 2010
4:00 pm
I am not quite sure that anyone would call this a “Championship hire” or that Casey would be confused with Phil Jackson. I thought the whole point of firing Woody was to instill an attitude that a second round sweep was not enough. Does hiring a guy who is “familiar” with Sund sound like going through a process of interviewing the best, or just taking the cheap way out?
I couldn’t tell you the first thing about Casey, it just seems that this organization is not willing to fully commit to taking the Hawks to the next level. If this is a sign of things to come, Joe Johnson is probably gone and the Spirit will go on the cheap to find his replacement.
Gravy Train
May 16th, 2010
4:06 pm
MB, rumors have Coach Cal joining Lebron in Cleveland…at least he can’t get the Cavs on probation, but what about UK? Would the hammer come down in Lexington?
I say the Hawks should move “Smoove,” Joe and No-D Bibby for some lottery picks and get a coach who understands team defense and offense.
The Donald Sterling Dirty Secret
May 16th, 2010
4:09 pm
You don’t have to win games to make money in this league.
Blow it up and start from scratch.
Again.
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Najeh Davenpoop
May 16th, 2010
4:11 pm
Casey doesn’t strike me as being any real improvement over Woodson. Woodson is a “good basketball man who’s good with players” too. The whole point of this coaching change is to get someone who will take the Hawks farther than their current level, and Casey doesn’t strike me as being that guy.
Obama
May 16th, 2010
4:16 pm
hawks still suC
Wanttobelieve
May 16th, 2010
4:19 pm
Jeff Schultz wrote and article that claimed the Hawks had raised the bar. Going to the second round of the playoffs was not acceptable anymore. I couldn’t agree with him more. So, if that be the case, would Dwane Casey really be the guy who could get the Hawks to the next round? We do not need a coach who is going to come in and take 2-3 years to get us back to the playoffs. The Hawks have had way too many rebuilding years.
Let Johnson go. Give Crawford a substantial raise and then give the rest of the money to Bosh. All we need then is a coach who has been there before. Laimbeer or Byron Scott would be my choices.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
4:22 pm
Please note that the post above has been updated: The Hawks have been granted permission to speak with Dwane Casey about their coaching vacancy.
Volman
May 16th, 2010
4:22 pm
Mr. Bradley, I’m officially a Georgia Tech grad. Just thought I’d throw that in there.
Haven’t posted on the blogs as of late, but I’m sure I’ll be here with the Hawks’ search for a new head coach.
Never saw you in section 303 this year. Would have bought you a beer, man. I was up there with my season tickets cheering “OFFENSE!” as much as I was “DEFENSE!”. We sure could have used some offense in that Orlando series.
Oh, and as you would say…. “KUDOS” to your picking Casey for the HC job. He still hasn’t been signed, though.
Do you want to keep JJ?
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
4:23 pm
Yes, I do, Volman. I still think Johnson is among the league’s 20 best players.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
4:23 pm
Oh, and I should note this: There’s no assurance Casey will be the Hawks’ coach. He has interviewed with New Orleans and could be interviewed by the Bulls.
dap01
May 16th, 2010
4:24 pm
MB: Why would say “Bibby would go for being a sub”? Who would care what Bibby wants? He was the worst starting guard in the NBA this year.
Volman
May 16th, 2010
4:29 pm
Mr. Bradley, I keep looking at this Boston/Orlando series and thinking “what could have been” if somehow the Hawks got to play Boston in this series. Orlando was the absolute worst match up for us. They’re not knocking down shots all of a sudden and Howard isn’t shooting 85%. Weird.
I think JJ should be signed, but not at the max…he’s not a max player, and it’ll cripple this team financially if he forces the Spirit to sign him for $90+ million.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
4:29 pm
You’re not the only one who thinks that, Volman. I know Mike Woodson does.
Volman
May 16th, 2010
4:35 pm
Mr. Bradley, you know as well as all of us here that Woodson lost his players at the worst time (the playoffs). Some coaches (Del Negro in Chicago) lose their players in the middle of the season. It’s weird that the Hawks go 34-7 at home and have 53 wins, then decide to stop listening come playoff time.
Maybe they just weren’t prepared.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
4:38 pm
I don’t know what took place, Volman. I wish I did. That way I wouldn’t have picked the Hawks to beat Orlando.
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"Chef" Tim Dix
May 16th, 2010
4:43 pm
Chef has JJ as 23rd AT BEST, just behind player to be named later and future considerations…
doggoneit
May 16th, 2010
4:45 pm
Hey Mark is one requirement to be a coach is they have to shave there Eyebrows?
Delbert D.
May 16th, 2010
4:45 pm
Laimbeer’s socks! Laimbeer’s socks!
Mystikal
May 16th, 2010
4:46 pm
MB, saying he team may be for sale, that is referring to potential new ownership right? Not talking about moving the franchise or anything crazy like that.
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
4:49 pm
So if this team comes back in tact ( i.e. – if we’re able to retain Joe Johnson ) . . . what is the expected record for the Hawks next year under Casey?
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Joseph Allen McWhorter
May 16th, 2010
4:53 pm
Hey, Mark, if the Hawks can still be playing in late May and possibly June for a change under his direction, more power to him. Maybe he is the right man for the job.
joeygt
May 16th, 2010
4:57 pm
letting woodson go was so stupid he was a good coach he just needed to changed his offensive strategies , its the coach that coaches and the players that play. i could be the best boss in the world but if my employess do not work hard then i look dumb and lose my job the hawks need to move horford to the 4 spot trade smith and marvin for bosh and resign joe johnson and sign will bymun to be pg
line up should be
bynum
crawford
johnson
horford
bosh
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
5:00 pm
Wanttobelieve
May 16th, 2010
4:19 pm
Jeff Schultz wrote and article that claimed the Hawks had raised the bar. Going to the second round of the playoffs was not acceptable anymore. I couldn’t agree with him more. So, if that be the case, would Dwane Casey really be the guy who could get the Hawks to the next round? We do not need a coach who is going to come in and take 2-3 years to get us back to the playoffs. The Hawks have had way too many rebuilding years.
Let Johnson go. Give Crawford a substantial raise and then give the rest of the money to Bosh. All we need then is a coach who has been there before. Laimbeer or Byron Scott would be my choices.
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Give Crawford a substantial raise? For shooting WORSE than Joe Johnson in the playoffs? JJ shot a dismal 39% FG in the playoffs. Crawford show an even more dismal 36% FG. But JJ is to be let go and Crawford gets a substantial raise?
Does the “tricky dribble” and quick play of Crawford dupe people into thinking that he’s a better player than JJ?
I guess it does . . . until the Hawks get on the defensive end.
joeygt
May 16th, 2010
5:00 pm
that would be a great lineup no #1 player but 2 # 2s in johnson and bosh that would definitly get the hawks farther into the playoffs
duker64
May 16th, 2010
5:05 pm
mark what about the asst.coach in boston ? is he still a possibility?
The Real Hawk
May 16th, 2010
5:05 pm
Do NOT resign JJ
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2010/3/10/1366059/the-non-atl-future-of-joe-johnson
blue
May 16th, 2010
5:06 pm
Shave the guys head and he looks just like woody standing on the sideline with his arms crossed
Sweet Lou and Bells
May 16th, 2010
5:07 pm
My post ID reveals my age – in a perfect world, Arthur Blank would lead an ownership group including Ted Turner, Tyler Perry, the Woodruff Foundation (Emory’s in good shape – move some of the $$$), and Jane Fonda (since she, no doubt, has plenty of Ted’s former $$$). They’d hire Phil Jackson away from the Lakers, sign Lebron, Duane and bring Chris home from the Great White North – that would be enough to drag me downtown to watch the Hawks. The last game I saw live was a playoff game in 1990 at The Omni. (Okay – I sat in nosebleed when my boys were in Cub Scouts in the mid 1990s to watch the Celtics – I think they were the Celtics – hard to tell from that distance.) It’s nice to see the Hawks make a bit of a run the past few years, but they just don’t register with me. (If the Braves aren’t careful, they’ll be the next “Who Cares” team in town. The Thrashers – never seen ‘em, don’t expect to anytime soon.)
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
5:07 pm
Thibodeau is a hot name on everybody’s list, duker64. But he’s more a defensive guy.
joeygt
May 16th, 2010
5:15 pm
mark
letting woodson go was so stupid he was a good coach he just needed to changed his offensive strategies , its the coach that coaches and the players that play. i could be the best boss in the world but if my employess do not work hard then i look dumb and lose my job the hawks need to move horford to the 4 spot trade smith and marvin for bosh and resign joe johnson and sign will bymun to be pg
line up should be
bynum
crawford
johnson
horford
bosh
that would be a great lineup no #1 player but 2 # 2s in johnson and bosh that would definitly get the hawks farther into the playoffs
what do you think?????????????
tony316
May 16th, 2010
5:18 pm
dumb move
Marcus (aka decatur g)
May 16th, 2010
5:19 pm
Hawks73, from your post on p. 1 …. the ultimate battle on this coaching decision will be lie within the ASG itself: the financial contraints for the new coach’s salary vs. desire/willingness to construct a championship-contending team.
The financial constraints could be self-imposed (e.g. cheapness), a lack of real $$$ due to inconsistent attendance overall, or combination of both. I think I read somewhere that we were in the lower-to-mid-20s in the NBA for average attendance, which doesn’t present a lot of $$$ to match roster vs. roster or staff vs. staff against the likes of ORL, BOS, CLE.
Seems like we are hell-bent on following a competitive strategy of a small market team, like we see more often in MLB (thinking Oakland and Milwaukee) and some NFL teams (GB, JAX). If so, we as fans need to not fool ourselves into thinking that we will get the big-name coach or the high-priced FA and be content (resigned) with being competitive and having an occasional shot to be the Cinderella in the playoffs.
KBP
May 16th, 2010
5:20 pm
Mark, I don’t know much about Casey. If he’s the guy, then hope he brings offense. On another note, Portland extended Marcus Camby’s contract for two more years. They already extended Joel Pryzbylla’s deal last season. Does this mean Greg Oden can be had? If so, let’s get him. What say you?
Dr. Dave
May 16th, 2010
5:32 pm
JoeyGT, you obviously don’t get it. Saying that Woody just needs to change his offense is ridiculous. Good coaches do that during the season and make adjustments during the game. Woody did neither of those, which was evident during the playoffs. Good coaches win on the road, he didn’t. Good coaches get the attention of their players in crunch time, and he didn’t. Did you see how all of the players were crowded around the TV monitor after Horford’s disputed 3 point shot. A good coach would have had his players around him talking strategies depending upon what the replay showed. A good coach would have sat Josh after attepting a 3 point shot or not getting back on defense. A good coach never would have allowed Joe to do so many ISO’s, and leave his teammates standing around. I could go on and on. Woody should have been gone long ago. The recent playoffs just made that idea more obvious.
Dr. Dave
May 16th, 2010
5:34 pm
KBP, is it me or is Greg Oden’s home address the DL?
HawksaDoom
May 16th, 2010
5:36 pm
Oh Great. Let’s go get another Mike Woodson. Are you telling me there is nothing better out there than him?
Get Real!
May 16th, 2010
5:41 pm
Not an upgrade!
jimdawg34
May 16th, 2010
5:45 pm
I just hope he is a disciplinarian who can control Josh “drag up the court” Smith.
KBP
May 16th, 2010
5:47 pm
Dr. Dave, point well taken. I would still take a chance. He’s 21 and in the last year of his rookie deal. Send them Josh, straight up. Look at this starting five: Oden, Horford, Williams, Johnson, Teague. Woodson was Marvin’s problem. I think he’ll have a much better season next year.
tony
May 16th, 2010
5:47 pm
Only teams that can’t get to the NBA Finals are those that ignore championship logic. Look at the teams that have won championships.
1) Lakers/ They hired championship players to run there organization. Jerry West won a championship with the Lakers. As the Lakers GM he built a powerhouse.
2) Pat Riley won a championship as a player with the Lakers. He also won a championship as a coach for the Lakers and Heats
3) Phil Jackson won a championship with the Knicks in 1973 as a player. As a coach he won several championships for the Bulls and Lakers.
4) Bill Russell won 10 championships for the Celtics as a player and he won championships as a hc.
5) KC Jones won 8 championships for the Celtics as a player and he won championships as a hc.
6) Byron Scott won championships for the Lakers as a player and he took the Nets to an NBA Finals as a hc.
9) Gregg Popovich didn’t play in the NBA as a player but he was the CAPTAIN and LED Air Force Acadamy in scoring. He also was selected as the team CAPTAIN of the Armed Force Team which won the Ameteur Athletic Union(AAU)Championship.
10) Joe Dumars won 2 championships for the Pistons as a player. He won 1 championship as their GM and 2 NBA Finals appearance.
11) Danny Ainge won championships for the Celtics as a player. He won 1 championship a GM.
The Hawks need to hire championships to run their organization if their want to have a share of the NBA Titles. Avery Johnson sholuld be our guy despite losing in the NBA Final against legendary coach Pat Riley.
Fire Sund
May 16th, 2010
5:47 pm
Actually the best available coach for the Job is ….Mike Woodson!
Changing coaches will not and cannot make the current roster any better. They played at their peak. No team goes far in the playoffs with out a center.
Horford sucks as a defender and is only mediocre offensively. Unless Jesus Christ takes the helm any coach will only produce marginal results with Horford at center.
I join with the millions of NBA fans who say…HAWKS NEED A CENTER.
What a waste of time changing coaches. Thats like changing the label on a can of soup thinking its going to make the soup a better product. Tell me… where do they get people like Sund from?
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
5:48 pm
The Real Hawk
May 16th, 2010
5:05 pm
Do NOT resign JJ
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2010/3/10/1366059/the-non-atl-future-of-joe-johnson
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That’s a good article . . and Michael Finley is a good comparison to JJ. But it doesn’t address the issue of building a championship caliber team.
The article makes the assumption that because the vast majority of 2nd tier guards fall off by age 30, that JJ will do the same,and they shouldn’t be re-signed for long term expensive deals. What that article doesn’t address, is that you need TALENT to win in the NBA. It doesn’t matter if that talent is overpaid or underpaid. You need TALENT, regardless of the situation. Lose JJ, and the Hawks lose a significant piece of talent to the puzzle that will not be easily replaced.
Fact is that if the Hawks lose JJ, and if Horford and Smoove don’t SIGNIFICANTLY raise their games offensively, this team is going to take a step back. . . possibly a significant one.
Peachtreehoops, like many other Hawks fans and blogs, would rather keep Horford and Smith around, thinking that they HAVE to get better as players, and may develop into legitimate star players. They bank on their “potential” as star players . . . . ( the same “P-Word” that has been used around here for 5 years now ).
When JJ leaves, all of a sudden Horford and Smith are going to see opposing teams gameplan to try to stop them offensively, and they’ll have to adjust to the extra attention that they’ll see. Orlando did just that in Game 3, after Horford got into a groove in Game 2. Horford had people running at him as soon as he caught the ball, forcing him to give it up.
Without JJ, he’ll see that often. So the question then will be . . . can Horford make the right play when being doubled . . and can he consistently score with extra defensive attention toward him? The same goes for Josh Smith, who already has a limited offensive game.
This is why we’ll see a heavy dose of ISO-CRAW to generate offense, if those two can’t elevate their offensive games. Right now, he’s the only guy on the team that can create AND MAKE his own shot.
How does all of this relate to an aging JJ? Easy . . JJ takes the offensive pressure off the complimentary guys, enabling them on most nights to work against one on one coverage. So even if JJ’s numbers do go into a slow decline as he ages, he’ll still be a good enough player to garner attention from the other team. And if the other guys develop around him, JJ will still be an integral part of what we do even at age 31 and 32.
And if this team happened to obtain a good point guard, that could add longevity to JJ’s career, much like how Ray Allen’s career has been extended. That’s what needs to happen anyway, regardless if JJ is re-signed or not. But team him up with a legit PG . . say a Chris Paul . .and you’ll see JJ be an all-star or at least a borderline all-star player for 4+ years.
Fans make the mistake of thinking a long term contract given to a player in his late 20s – early 30s, is supposed to be indicative of how that player should be playing at the end of the contract.
The money dished out in a contract isn’t supposed to represent how a player is playing in that particular year. The player is getting paid according of what his value is RIGHT NOW, not his value 5 years from now.
So when you see a big money contract that reads like this
year 1 – 16 mill
year 2 – 17 mill
year 3 – 18 mill
year 4 – 19 mill
year 5 – 20 mill
It doesn’t mean that the player in year 5 should be playing like a 20 million dollar player. The contract is simply structured to give a team cap relief in those first few years.
You don’t win in the NBA with a group of mediocre players. You at least need multiple star players to get you over the hump.
Fire Sund
May 16th, 2010
5:49 pm
Avery sucks and all of the above named championship teams had a legitimate center….Duh.
Fire Sund
May 16th, 2010
5:50 pm
Josh>Al”no defense” horford
Dejay
May 16th, 2010
5:53 pm
I think the Notorious A.S.G. has to give the paying public a reason to go to the building. The reason why folks don’t go (other than to see Wade, Kobe, or Lebron) is because they have ZERO confidence that the team will win BIG; similar to why folks gave up on the Braves years ago, despite them still making the playoffs.
As I’ve stated before, no town in America is better at discerning a phony from the real McCoy than Atlanta. Missouri may be the ’show me’ state but we are the ’show me’ city. It’s no secret that the Hawks are $17-22M behind in payroll compared to the other top three teams in the East and the second round debacle showed as much. If they want to be taken seriously in this town and around the league, they have to open up the coffers and discontinue the Minnesota Twin-esque motto of cutting salaries and hoping/dreaming/praying for the best.
As Vince McMahon once told Jesse Ventura when he was the governor, in order to make $$$, you have to be willing to spend it. Bringing back JJ, only to sell off draft picks and having to go to the thrift store to find head coaches aren’t going to bestow confidence in anyone looking to renew or buy season tickets.
Gearon and Co. keeps harping about $$$ not being an issue; this summer will show whether they are telling the truth or just preening for the papers…
Jody
May 16th, 2010
5:54 pm
Hey Mark,
If you’re watching the Boston-Orlando game, do you see how the Celtics size up front (something the Hawks severly lack) is giving them a chance to win?
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
5:54 pm
Boston putting on a DEFENSIVE CLINIC today on the Magic. They’ll win today probably holding the Magic to under 85 or 90 points.
Sund needs to get us a defensive big man ( not an over the hill one like Jason Collins ) . . and a legit PG who can run the show AND play defense.
@ Tony . . . great post.
@DanWeiner
May 16th, 2010
5:55 pm
and thank you FireSund for making the dumbest post on this blog. It takes a lot to achieve that and you have risen to meet the challenge.
Fire Sund
May 16th, 2010
5:58 pm
Volman
May 16th, 2010
4:29 pm
Mr. Bradley, I keep looking at this Boston/Orlando series and thinking “what could have been” if somehow the Hawks got to play Boston in this series. Orlando was the absolute worst match up for us. They’re not knocking down shots all of a sudden and Howard isn’t shooting 85%. Weird.
I think JJ should be signed, but not at the max…he’s not a max player, and it’ll cripple this team financially if he forces the Spirit to sign him for $90+ million.
Link Report this comment Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
4:29 pm
You’re not the only one who thinks that, Volman. I know Mike Woodson does.
ORLANDO EXPLOITS OUR WEAKNESS AT THE 5 SPOT WHICH CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF THE GAME.
A DEFENSIVE CENTER IS BETTER THAN A DEFENSELESS CENTER LIKE HORFORD WHO IS NOT ONLY 185H AMONG NBA CENTER FOR BLOCK SHOTS PER GAME BUT HE IS AT .41 BLOCKS PER FOUL COMMITTED. TEAMS HAVE A DUNK FEST ON HIM AND HIS OFFENSE (UNLIKE AMARE STOUDIMIRE WHO WE COULD HAVE HAD)IS NOT ENOUGH TO OFF SET HIS LIABILITY DEFENSIVELY. HIS NAME WAS NOT MENTIONED AT ALL ON THE NBA DEFENSIVE TEAMS NOR WAS HE MENTIONED ON THE ALL NBA TEA.
THANK YOU JOSH FOR BEING NUMBER 2 ON THE ALL NBA DEFENSIVE TEAM.
DEFENSE WINS GAMES!
Fire Sund
May 16th, 2010
5:59 pm
@DanWeiner
May 16th, 2010
5:55 pm
YOU ARE WELCOME IDIOT.
Fire Sund
May 16th, 2010
6:00 pm
*A DEFENSIVE CENTER IS BETTER THAN A DEFENSELESS CENTER LIKE HORFORD WHO IS NOT ONLY 18TH AMONG NBA CENTERS FOR BLOCK SHOTS PER GAME BUT HE IS AT .41 BLOCKS PER FOUL COMMITTED. TEAMS HAVE A DUNK FEST ON HIM
Grandad
May 16th, 2010
6:01 pm
Mark:
You answered MAP with a touch of sarcasm.
“Sam Mitchell a proven winner? He had one winning season.”
Thus: Dwane Casey a proven winner?
He’s had [no] winning seasons.
Plus: Sam Mitchell does have one NBA / COY on his mantel.
Jody
May 16th, 2010
6:01 pm
northcyde,
I agree totally. Might I add that Sund should try to get two instead of one. This team needs that depth up front.
Fire Sund
May 16th, 2010
6:04 pm
41 BLOCKS PER FOUL COMMITTED. TEAMS HAVE A DUNK FEST ON HIM = 2.5 FOULS TO GET 1 BLOCK. DUDE!
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
6:04 pm
Yep Jody . . even Big Baby Davis . . who is short at 6 – 9 . . but is a girthy 280 – 285 lbs, is using his body effectively against Dwight Howard.
Boston Frontline:
- Perkins: 6 – 10 . . . 280 lbs ( and Dwight Howard says he plays him the best of anybody )
- Garnett: 6 – 11 . . . 250 lbs ( and has extremely long arms and has been a former Defensive POY )
- Wallace: 6 – 10 . . . 230 lbs ( and possesses some of the same defensive skills as Garnett )
- Big Baby: 6 – 9 . . . 290 lbs ( and uses all of that bulk to body-up Howard when he’s matched up against them )
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Hawks frontline:
- Horford: 6 – 10 . . . 245 lbs ( is a decent defender, but doesn’t have the strength or bulk to handle Howard )
- Smith: 6 – 9 . . . 240 lbs ( a great weak side shot blocker, but once again, he lacks strength to play decent on the ball defense on good post players )
- Zaza: 6 – 11 . . . 275 ( has the size, and sometimes play Dwight well . . I thought Woody should’ve thought about starting him at least one game )
- Jason Collins: 7 – 0 . . . 255 ( has the length, but all he did was foul a lot when guarding Howard )
- Randolph Morris: 6 – 11 . . . 275 ( in his little stint in Game 2, he may have played Howard the best . . he’s just useless everywhere else )
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
6:07 pm
A lot of ISO from Orlando in the 2nd half of this game as well. Funny how teams play when they get down in a game.
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
6:09 pm
Arthur Blank should buy this team and put some real money into it. Then we could be serious. As it stands we are no where near a championship, and not a contender for any free agent but our own. We cannot even go after a top tier coach, much less a player.
If we were able to get a legit center, (Bosh is too much like a forward) how could we play Horford and Josh Smith? Would one have to come off the bench? Would Josh play the three?
We need to focus on the reasons we cannot stay on the court with Orlando. The East will go through Orlando for the next few years. It was obvious all year that we would get swept by them.
No coach could have solved that with the current roster.
BosnianBaller
May 16th, 2010
6:10 pm
Bring back Fratello
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
6:14 pm
Think anyone on the Magic is watching the Kisscam?
Courtney
May 16th, 2010
6:19 pm
What about Mark Price?
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
6:20 pm
@ keepitreal . . . . if we do get a legit center, and he helps us defensively, then yes, either Horford or Smoove needs to come off the bench. You still play whichever one coming off the bench 30 – 35 minutes. But against certain teams, if the defensive center anchors the team the best, then sit Horford or Smith down.
Say a rotation like this:
C – Defensive C ( 20 min ) – Horford ( 18 min ) – Zaza ( 10 min )
PF – Horford ( 15 min ) – Smith ( 33 min )
or
PF – Smith ( 33 min ) – Horford ( 15 min )
At either rate, we need to give Horford a little more run at PF and reduce his minutes at center. if we can get bigger guys to play the position, and maybe have Horford go up against reserve centers when he plays the 5 spot, that may work out better for us.
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We worked a rotation like that all year with Jamal Crawford alternating from PG to SG, so we could do the same with Smoove or Horford ( preferably Smoove ). And on most occasions, you probably want Horford and Smoove finishing a game anyway, so that probably won’t change.
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
6:23 pm
Northclyde, Can Josh cover the better small forwards in the league? Do you think his ego would allow him to come off the bench. Damn that Jameer Nelson is a player.
GeorgiaYankeesFan
May 16th, 2010
6:31 pm
As usual, Atlanta’s paper of record gets scooped by another town’s newspaper. Unless a story falls in their laps or they are reporting some other outlet’s news, AJC reporters are basically paid to watch games. Nice work if you can get it.
Seen-a-lot
May 16th, 2010
6:33 pm
In his more than twenty some years as a executive (SUND), any NBA championships on the books?
Justin
May 16th, 2010
6:34 pm
Some of you clowns are just ridiculous with your rants. They haven’t even interviewed Casey yet and already some idiots are already saying he can’t do the job….why not just say what some of you really want………A WHITE COACH!
More of the same
May 16th, 2010
6:41 pm
Casey can’t coach, but it’s important to hire another African-American coach in Atlanta.
Frustrated Homer
May 16th, 2010
6:48 pm
Isn’t there another van Gundy available? Someone who actually did well in New York? Why is he not in the running? Does TV pay THAT well?
Kool Aide Consumer
May 16th, 2010
6:57 pm
Race is not relevent. You are both wack.
Byron Scott
May 16th, 2010
6:57 pm
Hey GM, what about me. I can take the hawks to a sixty win season and to the NBA chapionship in two years. Give me a chance and you will not be sorry. Don’t give me a chance and you will be sorry.Why hire a un-proven coach like Casey with a losing recoerd?
George
May 16th, 2010
7:01 pm
Get this guy now.
Fire Sund
May 16th, 2010
7:03 pm
Boston, guys who play Center:- Perkins: 6 – 10 . . . 280 lbs ( and Dwight Howard says he plays him the best of anybody )
- Garnett: 6 – 11 . . . 250 lbs ( and has extremely long arms and has been a former Defensive POY )
- Wallace: 6 – 10 . . . 230 lbs ( and possesses some of the same defensive skills as Garnett )
- Big Baby: 6 – 9 .
Atlanta guys who play center:
Horford: 6 – 10 . . . 245 lbs ( is a less than decent defender, but doesn’t have the strength or bulk to handle real centers)
- Zaza: 6 – 11 . . . 275 ( has the size, and sometimes play Dwight well . . I thought Woody should’ve thought about starting him at least one game )
- Jason Collins: 7 – 0 .
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
7:09 pm
@ keepitreal . . .
1) Can Josh cover the better small forwards in the league? . . . . No chance. Josh has great straight ahead speed, but he isn’t the most nimble side-to-side guy in the world. At the scoouting combines, they call this lateral speed. Things have always looked ugly whenever Josh was matched up against a quick slashing SF.
Plus, if you put him at SF, you take him away from the rim to protect the paint. That was part of the problem in the Orlando series. Josh had to constantly make decisions on whether to help Horford or whomever was playing center vs Dwight, because he also had to worry about Rashard Lewis shooting 3s. In those times in which you saw Rashard wide open, it was usually because Josh was trying to help on the inside.
2) Do you think ( Josh’s ) ego will allow him to come off the bench? . . . And that’s the million dollar question. The new coach would probably have to convince him that not only is this the best thing for the team, but he’d also have to assure Josh that he’d get his minutes and be in the game at the end.
Could Josh humble himself to do it? Man I don’t know. He’d probably fight it at first, because that would create the image that Horford may be a better player than he is . . . ( that’s up for debate, by the way ). But a coach would say . . . “you could be like Lamar Odom . . a supersub off the bench that is still a big key to the team.”
Bynum doesn’t start with the Lakers because he’s better than Odom. He starts because he balances the team out better than if Gasol was at C and Odom started at PF. The Lakers are so dangerous because Odom can play both SF and PF . . and Gasol can play both PF and C.
So that’s what Smoove would have to be sold on. That he could help the team much in the way Lamar Odom does the Lakers.
Steve
May 16th, 2010
7:20 pm
Sure hope we get him. Should have gone after him last time around.
20-20 in Minnesota was a ridiculous accomplishment for that team.
Jody
May 16th, 2010
7:27 pm
northcyde,
Good break down. Actually, I don’t think Al Horford is a full 6′10. I think he’s actually 6′9 1/2 and Josh is actually 6′8 3/4. With that said, I love both of these guys. However, it may become necessary to move one.
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
7:28 pm
Fire Sund . . . that’s pretty much the picture. They have 4 guys who can play center, and play it decently either because of their length, size, or smarts. And all but Big Baby is a threat to get a shot block or at least alter shots.
We have 3 guys who can play center, but all have deficiencies in their defensive game that keeps them from playing it well. Horford can get a decent amount of blocks and altered shots, but not necessarily against the man he’s guarding. Zaza and Collins are no threat whatsoever to get a shot block.
Horford’s quickness can slow down most centers in this league ( which is why his defensive FG% numbers are so good ). But against the good centers, he’s going to have trouble on most nights slowing them down.
Like I’ve been saying on the main Hawks Blog . . . the guy to go get, if Atlanta wants him, is Jarvis Varnado out of Mississippi St. He’s super skinny, but is the NCAA career leader in blocked shots. If we can’t find that defensive center that can play man defense or block a shot or two, Varnado may be someone we need to look at.
The NBA combines in Chicago take place on Wednesday and Thursday for most of the college guys who are projected to go in the 1st and 2nd round of the draft. We’ll get a decent feel for if a guy like Varnado can play on the next level. Hopefully his stock doesn’t go up too high after the Combines. He’s a projected 2nd round pick that could work his way up to the 1st round, with a good showing at the combines.
There are a few center prospects that we may want to look at here as well.
We’ve gotten burned over the years trying to draft for need though, so it’s probably wise to take the best player available with that 1st round pick, regardless if it’s a position of need or not.
ryan
May 16th, 2010
7:31 pm
Breaking News the Hawks are up for sale!
Atl Resident
May 16th, 2010
7:34 pm
Now who is this Casey dude again?
Mystikal
May 16th, 2010
7:37 pm
I dont think resigning Joe would be best option long term if he’s gonna start to decline with 3 yrs, $40+ million still on the books. Remember Joe has played big minutes (40+) over the past 3 or 4 seasons; that is a lot of wear and tear on those legs. I think (if possible) rather than lose him for nothing do a sign and trade. I’d like to see him go to the Clippers for this year’s 1st rounder, Deandre Jordan, a future 1st rounder, and cash/trade exception. Laugh now… finished? Okay get it all out… Alright now we admit hawks need a true center, but looking at the landscape of the league they are few and far between. DeAndre Jordan is young, but has a similar build to Dwight Howard, but he’s slightly longer. He is very raw (like Dwight was coming out), but has great measurable and with personal coach in his corner like Dwight/Bynum had (Ewing/Kareem), he could be really good.
northcyde
May 16th, 2010
7:38 pm
Fire Sund . . . that’s pretty much the picture. They have 4 guys who can play center, and play it decently either because of their length, size, or smarts. And all but Big Baby is a threat to get a shot block or at least alter shots.
We have 3 guys who can play center, but all have deficiencies in their defensive game that keeps them from playing it well. Horford is average to below average in blocks and altered shots, but not necessarily against the man he’s guarding. He is a good man defender against most centers though. Zaza and Collins are no threat whatsoever to get a shot block.
glw
May 16th, 2010
8:00 pm
northcyde,
I am thinking along the same lines as you about playing time at Center and Power Forward. Its not that Horford is ineffictive at Center, its just that he would be more effective if you could limit his minutes there, ideally 15-20 minutes a night. and 15-20 minutes at power forward. I agree it would be a tough sell for Josh coming off the bench, but maybe a good, strong coach can get him to buy into that. Assuming Joe resigns (and that is a big if), a bench with Jamal, Bibby, and Smoove would be awesome.
Jon Koncak
May 16th, 2010
8:08 pm
This hire would be a complete JOKE! Explore some options!!!
And yes indeed, we DO need a BIG!!!
I like JJ. However, he would keep us from getting the BIG we have been needing! Until we get one the Magic will continue to control us inside. I just watched Boston use their Big’s keep Howard under control. What is his average against us? i’m not sure, but it seems like about 33 pts. and about 18 rebounds. Check his stats today against Boston and tell me we don’t need a BIG.
I don’t think think Phil Jackson could win here without the BIG i’m talking about. Let’s take some time and calculate our real goals and direction. And if we do sell this team……..PLEASE let it be to a more Author Blank type. Imagine what we could do with that kind of owner!!!!!!!!!!!
Mitch
May 16th, 2010
8:11 pm
We just saw a flat-out blueprint as to how to defend and beat the Magic. Who wans the architect of that blueprint? Tom Thibodeau. How’bout his blueprint on taking the swagger out of LeBron, Mo and the Cavs?
The Celtics showed all the reasons why the Hawks were so pathetically prepared to play the Magic.
If this guy, Thibodeau, isn’t at the top of the list…and Casey is…Sund just wants familiarity…and, quite frankly all the mediocrity that goes with it.
AG
May 16th, 2010
8:13 pm
As you can see in the Celtics Magic game, coaching makes a big difference. The Celtics did not let the Magic get those open three looks and Howard was frustrated every time he touched the ball. I am thinking true change is a proven coach and I am really starting to lean towards Byron Scott. I am sure he is more than ready. If not him Avery. If I were going to chose a rookie head coach it would be Laimbeer. Funny, Mark is not saying much about him.
Kardashian's right cheek
May 16th, 2010
8:15 pm
I think Ty Corbin would be a fine choice. Thoughts?
AG
May 16th, 2010
8:17 pm
Thiodeau would be an interesting choice as well. I don’t like the Casey choice. The coaches I mentioned earlier would sale tickets as well and show a commitment to excellence. I hate everyone saying we need a big. Hortford is our center. He should be switched sometimes to play PF, but it is all about coaching. Leave our team intact, sign a couple of good free agents who can shoot (ride ourselves of West, etc.)
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
8:18 pm
Again, let me stipulate that Dwane Casey isn’t yet the Hawks’ coach. He might not get offered the job. He might take another job. But the local club has expressed interest, which I think is a good notion on Rick Sund’s part.
ryan
May 16th, 2010
8:27 pm
Why is everybody so hung up on Ty Corbin what experince does he have as a head coach he does not have a wining record. I just think its because he is a former Hawk.
Kardashian's right cheek
May 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
ryan
Does Casey have a winning record? The answer is “no.”
t_height
May 16th, 2010
8:33 pm
the hawks need a good coach but even better assistant coaches. The hawks need to bring in Hakeem as an assistant to help out with horford and josh. The hawks should also bring Garett Siler aboard to play center. Woodson didn’t sign him this offseason because he doesn’t know how to coach young players. He is the reason why Josh has not come closer to his real potential, salim, royal ivey, acie law, solomon jones, sheldon williams, Donta Smith, Josh Childress, Marvin Williams has not played to their potential because he didn’t know how to coach the young guys. Woodson really could kill a Rookie/players career. Woodson wanted guys to trust him but he didn’t trust his players, thats what killed them. I’ve never seen a coach that only plays his starters and one bench player for an entire season. The hawks are going to need more than just someone who can coach the guys they have during the game, they need someone who can make players out of them as well and I think Avery Johnson has that in him. Sometime you have to spend money to get what you want.
vava74
May 16th, 2010
8:33 pm
This is a repost of a blog entry to Mark Bradley’s previous piece on Dwayne Casey.
IMO, Casey has written all over his forehead “WOODY 2.0″
The contents below is of the exclusive responsibility of its author.
“steve brown
May 11th, 2010
3:13 pm
fyi
This, in a nutshell, is the surprising (?) result of a quick Q & A session I did with Dave/College Wolf of TWolves blog, the site covering Minnesota of the Bloguin network.
For your pleasure (?), here is the complete transcript, I think it should work as a warning for Ed Stefanski and all of us Sixers fans.
(S4G): Casey’s record as T’Wolves head coach in 2006/2007 was 33-49 and was 20-20 the year after, when Mc Hale fired him and put Randy Wittman in his place (Wittman went 12-30 the rest of the way…). What do you remember of that stint, other than they were surely troubled seasons in Minnesota, and that coaching Szczerbiak, Olowokandi, Ricky Davis, Marco Jaric etc surely wasn’t an easy task?
(CW): Yes, we had bad teams, but don’t forget though that we also had KG near his absolute prime. Those seasons he was one of the (arguably) Top 5 players in the league. With that said, the Casey Coaching Era (CCE) was quite a while ago, so I apologize for not being to elaborate with tons and tons of details for you and your readers.
However, a few things stick out in my mind, and I can assure you that they were not good things. First off, Casey was nearly an epic fail at coaching X’s and O’s. At times, some of us Wolves fans wondered if he had any idea if he knew what he was doing at all. He was especially terrible coming out of timeouts.
It might not have been as bad as I am making it sound, but our playcalling/execution coming out of timeouts was absurd and horrendous. It seemed like we would never score, and most times it resulted in a turnover or terrible shot.
Again, it probably wasn’t *that bad*, but the fact that it is something I’ve never forgotten about the CCE has got to mean something. Casey’s substitutions were illogical and nonsensical. We fans were pulling our hairs out because his lineups and distribution of minutes made absolutely no sense.
Also, it didn’t seem like Casey had “control” of his team at all. Granted, we had a few bad apples back then, but he was far too passive and timid to be the leader of our team at that time. Now, it could have been simply that these things were factors of Casey being a rookie head coach. I don’t know.
Perhaps he has gotten better the past two years as a bench coach for the Dallas Mavericks. For his sake I hope that he has learned a thing or two.
(S4G): Why did Minnesota decide to give him the team that year? Was it another “Randy Ayers case” (=lack of better options) or what?
(CW): I am not entirely sure. Glen Taylor and McHale were doing their best to “win now”, and I think they viewed Dwane Casey as a hot-shot up and coming assistant coach, in the same mold as someone like Nate McMillan.
It’s not that they had a lack of better options, because they went out and actively recruited Casey. It was just a complete swing and a miss, because it was obvious that Casey was in way too far over his head. At the time, I had thought he was one of the worst coaches I’d ever seen. Little did I know what to expect from the Randy (Dim)Wittman era…
(S4G): Which were Casey’s strengths as a coach, and what was he missing?
(CW): I honestly cannot remember any “strengths” besides the fact that he was a nice guy. Also, I think he did a decent job getting our players to play defense during his 20-20 second season, although the stats might say otherwise (I didn’t check).
He was missing everything. Namely: experience, presentation, advanced game knowledge/strategy, good assistants, and good players.
(S4G): Can being fired by Kevin Mc Hale be considered a plus in a coach’s resume?
(CW): No comment
(S4G): Would you recommend the Sixers to give the helm to Casey? Why? Any other team where he would be a good fit?
(CW): No, I would not recommend him being the new head coach of your team. He just doesn’t strike me as a guy that will ever be a truly successful NBA *head coach.* I think his ideal position is that of an assistant coach for a veteran contending team. Those players would be much more likely to listen to him and his ideals, rather than a rebuilding team full of youngsters.
I realize that the Sixers are a veteran, contending (hopefully) team, but I wouldn’t want you guys to waste your championship window because a coach like Casey was hired. I think you guys could do much better.
I don’t think he would be a good fit as a head coach anywhere in the NBA. As an assistant coach, yes. You could probably do worse with the plethora of no-name assistants that have been floating around the league for years.
Thank you for enlightening us, Dave…
Conclusion: please say “NO” to Dwane Casey !!”
Next !
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
8:36 pm
We basically have two power forwards to build around, nothing at small forward, no center, a very speculative point guard in Teague, an aging star at two guard who has broken down at the end of the last two seasons and is a free agent, the nba’s sixth man of the year, who could not guard Nelson nor any of the Buck’s guards, Biby and Mo off the bench and not much else.
Maybe Woodson will look better after another week or two of getting over that Orlando/Milwaukee performance but either way, we have alot of work to do.
I would trade Josh only because Horford is the type of quality guy (a winner)that you ideally want on the floor and in the locker room. Josh and Marvin should be able to bring us something worthwhile in trade. Josh could wind up being a superstar if he gets in the right situation. But we need help at guard and center. We should try to get Childress in to repalce Marvin. Marvin is not the future.
Management and the current owners are saying we only need to tweek a couple of things, but I do not see us getting past the second round with this nucleus even if Johnson stays, so it looks like rebuilding time to me. Unless we are just happy to get into the playoffs.
I would trade Josh Smith and Marvin for a decent center and a couple of good draft picks. We have no shot at Wade, James or even Bosh (who would not help that much). I am a Josh Smith fan, but I believe he needs to go because he is one of the only players we have with any real trade value.
Dan Alexander
May 16th, 2010
8:37 pm
I dont understand why Dominique wont come out of his analyst chair and coach the hawks already. I guarantee he can get respect from any players we have. then get chris bosh and a 7 footer in the draft. (sorry hockey fans) ATLANTA SPIRIT SELL THE THRASHERS TO CLEVELAND FOR LEBRON JAMES. or alot of us go in and buy the hawks out
Brennan Huff
May 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
The Hawks should give Dan Majerle a strong look. I think he could be the next Scott Brooks. Maybe he could get these guys to play to their potential.
t_height
May 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
i also want to point out how good Boris Diaw became after leaving Atlanta with Woodson. i don’t think Billy Knight was a bad GM, Woodson didn’t know how to coach the players. The only players that he has coached that has improved his game is Horford.
joeygt
May 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
1h
Permission
May 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
The hawks have to get “permission” to interview a mediocre assistant with dallas? Are you serious????
Rajin Mojo
May 16th, 2010
8:46 pm
How about Phil Jackson or Pat Riley—they’ve both won titles?? But, it would take about $15 mil to get either—the cheap morons who own the team will not pay that kind of coin.
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
8:55 pm
Stoudemire and a 1st round draft pick for Josh and Marvin and our second round pick?
fire sund = truth serum
May 16th, 2010
9:01 pm
who is a loser
fire sund = truth serum
May 16th, 2010
9:02 pm
vava is wrong
Wanted: True Center
May 16th, 2010
9:07 pm
I say we trade marv, bibby, or J smoothie and crack into someone’s lotto. Bare with me but, Hassan Whiteside (7′0 240) is long, strong, and a shot blocking freak(Thundering Herd i know). A great project with right personnel and tremendous upside.
t_height
May 16th, 2010
9:07 pm
Stoudemire is a good player but I still like the potential of Josh more if there is a coach that can bring it out of him. Josh biggest problem is he is on the court too much. he needed to sit and watch more to see what was going on in the game instead of thinking he was getting paid to play street ball and the same goes for Marvin.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
9:10 pm
That’s way too much to give up for Stoudemire, keepitreal. He has bad knees and plays the same position as Al Horford.
joe mama
May 16th, 2010
9:10 pm
I agree Stoudamire a center for horford our center.
Our power forward Josh is the second best defender in the NBA, and a triple double threat at all time.
Our center was not on the All NBA defensive team nor the All NBA team. He is our weakest link! If Bogut had been healthy he would have abused horford just like Lopez always does!
JeJe
May 16th, 2010
9:11 pm
I’d like Sam Mitchell as coach. Seems like a rugged guy who does not put up with anything and will put Smoove in his place
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
9:12 pm
Stoudemire wasn’t on the all-defensive team, either, joe mama. He doesn’t guard anybody. And Horford did make the East squad in the All-Star game.
One other red flag on Amare: If he’s so good, why is Phoenix always looking to trade him?
SlimG
May 16th, 2010
9:15 pm
Woodson took this team from nothing to playoffs. He got no respect from Jsmooth or Joe. They finally decided to play defense after he benched there a$$e$. Please Spirit manangent, get a true center and shooting guard so we can compete and then will talk about coaching. Like how many small forwards does a team need.
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
9:16 pm
t height
Do you think we can get to the point of being able to stay on the floor with Orlando without a better center (not that Horford is bad, he is just out of position)? How else can we solve Howard?
Do you think it is realistic that we could get Stoudemire without giving up Josh? Is there another center that comes to mind?
Because anyone could be the coach for all it would matter if we cannot beat Orlando and it will take more than a new gameplan to get there in my opinion.
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
9:18 pm
If you’re looking for someone to guard Dwight Howard, you don’t want Amare.
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
9:20 pm
Thanks Mark.
Does a potential scenario come to mind where we make a trade for that center? What do you see out there that is realistic and will still be enough to help us?
ryan
May 16th, 2010
9:24 pm
Here is an idea mark bradley how about we trade Marvin Williams for Marc Gasol and then trade Josh Smith for Chris Bosh . I am mean its just an idea but there is your front court.
t_height
May 16th, 2010
9:25 pm
the team really don’t need to lose any of the top 9 players other than Mo Evans, the team need to know where and when to play each player. Teague should get a shot at the starting position or Crawford. Marvin and Bibby need to come off of the bench and Childress need to be resigned in place of evans but put childress in the starting lineup instead of Marvin. Bibby and Marvin will bring a different kind of tempo coming off of he bench along with crawford if the team can find a true center.
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
9:27 pm
And once we have solved this Center issue, do we really think we have anyone who can slow down the quick penetrating guards that are taking over the league? Does anyone think we know enough about Teague to say that he will be the answer?
Not Drinking the Kool-Aid
May 16th, 2010
9:29 pm
I really don’t care if the coach is purple so long as he can draw up offensive sets, get the team to play defense for 48 minutes, and runs an uptempo offense. The games in which the Hawks swept Boston were up and down the court and were over at or slightly past halftime. When the Hawks are defending and running ,outside of OKC, there are not many teams that can beat them. I like Van Gundy, Thibodeaux, Byron Scott, Dwane Casey, but I prefer Avery for the way he raised the play of Dirk, a known shoot-happy soft-defense 7 footer in the 2006 season. Dirk played defense and was backing guys down in the post. Hopefully, if ASG does sell this will bring some stability to the team and just maybe some deep-pockets willing to spend some cash on a winner. I hope they keep J.J. but I would definitely try not to give him max money. I would bring in a seven footer via the draft or free agency and find a way to trade Bibby, Mo Evans and even za za. Bring back J. Childress and run up and down the court next year with Teague, Josh, Horford, J.J., Marvin, and Smoove.
HawkKingBibby
May 16th, 2010
9:30 pm
53-69? Id rather hire BILLY KNIGHT to coach the team HE BUILT.
Wanted: True Center
May 16th, 2010
9:31 pm
???, with a smart front office(SMART) we could sign and trade and just trade for key players and picks. Everyone loves marvin, but he is streaky. Smoothie just plays to much and bibby is too old. great trade pieces for a brendan haywood, marc gasol, and in a dream world brooks lopez. And maybe just maybe we can do a sign and trade with joe. maybe…
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
9:34 pm
Why would Memphis want Marvin, ryan?
Mark Bradley
May 16th, 2010
9:35 pm
There just aren’t many centers, keepitreal. And the teams that have them tend to keep them.
t_height
May 16th, 2010
9:36 pm
@keepitreal:
If the hawks were to get Stoudamire you would have to risk of not signing Joe back or signing another 2 guard that is on the same level as joe or better because Stoudamire wants big money, he has made it known that he wants to be mentioned in the class as lebron, wade, bosh and carmello, plus no one in the league is going to stop Howard. The man is a beast. It also wasn’t Howard that really killed the hawks, it was Jameer Nelson and the rest of the shooters. The hawks don’t have any shooters on the team. The same goes for the M. Bucks series, the guards and the 3pt shooters killed the hawks.
Chuck Uga
May 16th, 2010
9:36 pm
HIRE HIM! QUICK!
Q
May 16th, 2010
9:37 pm
WE WANT AVERY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not Drinking the Kool-Aid
May 16th, 2010
9:42 pm
I really don’t care if the coach is purple long as he has offensive plays, can bring the team together to play as a team, will bring an uptempo offense, and can help the guys to pass and play defense for 48 minutes. Jeff Van Gundy,Tom Thibodeaux,Lawrence Franks, Dwayne Casey, Byron Scott, and Avery will all do fine. I like Avery because he turned shoot-first, no-defense Dirk into one of the 3 best players in the NBA in 2006 playing defense and backing guys down into the post. That is real coaching. The Hawks against Boston ran and played defense and most of those games were over around halftime or shortly thereafter in the third quarter. Hawks need to run. Start Teague, find a way to get rid of Bibby, Mo Evans, and even Za Za. Draft or pick up a center in free agency ask him to defend and rebound and run like he!!. Sign J.J. but try to get him for less than max money if you can. Bring back J. Chill and no one can run with the Hawks accept maybe OKC. What do you think, Mark B.?
t_height
May 16th, 2010
9:47 pm
I’m with you Q. We WANT AVERY JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!
keepitreal
May 16th, 2010
9:50 pm
I agree t height. But I think it was how we had to scheme for Howard that opened up the door for the three point shooters. Nelson and Jennings are both unstopable for us in the current configuration. And the Bucks will have Bogut back next year. I do not think they were a fluke.
We will have to find a way to cover the big guys and not end up with the kind of rotations we just showed in the playoffs.
Regardless of the coach.
carl
May 16th, 2010
9:54 pm
How ’bout trying to lure away doc rivers?
RAINMAN
May 16th, 2010
9:54 pm
what about byron scott!!!
Wanted: True Center
May 16th, 2010
9:55 pm
Scott would be perfect for teague and other guards…
t_height
May 16th, 2010
9:56 pm
@SlimG:
You have to realize that the draft is coming up in June and you can’t sign any free agent players that are not in your organization until July 1st (if im not mistaken). A lot of teams like to hire coaches before bringing in players so that they fit in the system. I would recommend trading the draft pick unless there is a small foward out there that will be around the early 20’s pick. I’m pretty sure there won’t be a center available.
JJ
May 16th, 2010
10:04 pm
There is but one reason I would not hire Casey: Bradley suggested him. That alone should disqualify him.
If he is hired then we’ll have to read 400 columns in the next year about how the Hawks brass hired a coach based on the suggestion of a sportswriter. I don’t think I can take it.
Jon Koncak
May 16th, 2010
10:06 pm
MB, what do you thnk about Laimbeer and Company?
t_height
May 16th, 2010
10:08 pm
I agree also keepitreal, i don’t think the bucks were a fluke either. The team is talented. I do have to state that i don’t think howard would have beat us alone if we played him with jason collins more often or just played him one on one. howard could have scored 30 or 40 pts and the hawks could have competed with that but Orlando scored more pts in 3pt shooting than they did shooting inside the the 3 pt line. They should have used a bigger lineup, move horford to the 4 spot, Josh at the 3, and za za and collins at he 5, while Howard was in the game. When Howard left the game, the team could rotate back to it original positions. That may have worked if horford would have been able to stay with Lewis. Again like I said, Jameer Nelson killed the hawks more than Howard. Penetration and getting to the basket easy killed them in both series. Look at what killed cleveland, rondo and his penetration.
VRMom
May 16th, 2010
10:09 pm
it is time the hawks get so,eome who can win now.give me avery
Mystikal
May 16th, 2010
10:10 pm
Hawks need a center!! Hawks need a center!!
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE THIS CENTER IS
SUPPOSED TO COME FROM?????????
KevinM
May 16th, 2010
10:15 pm
Casey can be considered a candidate, but he shouldn’t be the first interviewed for thie job.
You need to get Byron Scott’s attention and Avery Johnson’s attention.
You need someone who should be an improvement and is playoff proven.
The two above are: Casey, while I don’t consider him a bad option, but you can’t take a guy who has zero playoff experience as a head coach.
What improvement does that show?
Call me crazy, Adelman or Rudy T. should be looked at if you truly want to start building a championship team. Both guys handle rosters very well and have proven themselves in the playoffs.
Please, no more non-HC candiates please. I don’t have sympathy for an ownership group that says they can’t afford to get the best coach out available.
Quit being a write-off and bring us a championship level team while we are young enough to contend.
fayncdawg
May 16th, 2010
10:17 pm
The Hawks should have kept Woody if they were not going for Doc Rivers! Woody has a ring as an assistant. Does Casey have a ring?? And what big name UFA is Casey going to draw?? (And please don’t say Soft Dirk!) Obviously the Hawks aren’t interested in doing any better than getting double-digit swept out of the 2nd round! (DID DALLAS EVEN GET TO THE 2nd ROUND??) CALL THE DOC!!
KWAT
May 16th, 2010
10:18 pm
Atlanta…..Go get Larry Brown!!!!!
Wanted: True Center
May 16th, 2010
10:20 pm
Centers come from…
-Trades
-Sign and trades
-Lotto picks accumulated from trades
-and a front office that recognizes a need for a true 5 if plan on contending with orlando for 8 games of the season
fayncdawg
May 16th, 2010
10:26 pm
And I forgotm Casy was the main part of that UK scandal that got Eddie Sutton ran out of Lexington!! Gees! A mediocre assistant AND A CHEATER?? Just what the Hawks Need!!!!
fletch
May 16th, 2010
10:26 pm
I read all of your comments about Casey and I think you guys are missing the boat. You all have forgotten that Avery Johnson as a relatively new NBA coach took the Dallas Mavericks to the NBA Finals and if not for the incredible heroics of DWade and, to a lesser degree, Shaq, Avery Johnson would already have an NBA championship under his belt. One thing that the Hawks need is discipline and I think that Avery Johnson is the one that can bring that much needed element to the team. If he is available, I think they would make a huge mistake if they don’t sign him. Let’s see how serious they are about having a championship caliber team.
Crazy Diamond
May 16th, 2010
10:39 pm
Great! Get the deal done, Sund!
No more connection to Billy Knight, Mike Woodson and the looser 1984-85 Kansas City Kings, where they were team mates.
fayncdawg
May 16th, 2010
10:41 pm
I prefer Doc! I’ll settle for Avery! NO CHEATERS!!! AND I DON”T CARE IF IT HAPPENED 22 YEARS AGO!! I DON”T WANT THE CHEATER!!
Jon Koncak
May 16th, 2010
10:46 pm
Give this team a Good Big Man and move Horford to his NATURAL position trade Josh for a SF with good defensive skills and can knock down 15 footers. Find out if the young Teague can run the point. If possible sign and trade JJ for a sharp shooter and bring Crawford, Bibby and Marvin off the bench. Then I think just MAYBE we can really contend with Orlando. P.S. with this a nice x’s and O’s veteran coach would be great! (Avery Johnson or Byron Scott)
Mystikal
May 16th, 2010
10:47 pm
Josh Smith would ideally be served by playing with a super point guard a la Steve Nash, Chris Paul, or Jason Kidd. If he had one of these guys setting him up he’d look like a young Amare Stoudamire (no jumper). Being that we don’t have a guard like this, we can’t build the team around him. Really he has no position which isn’t a bad thing if you have skillz of a Lamar Odom or Rashard Lewis. But Josh can’t handle or shoot let alone make post moves. Beyond that we’ll have too much money tied up in the front court to not have a true center (Marv $8mil, Josh $11mil), than we have to resign big Al. That’s why I think Josh should be the one to go. That and he still hasn’t matured after 6/7 yrs in the league.
Bigalo
May 16th, 2010
11:01 pm
No disrespect for Casey, as he didn’t get a chance to make an impact with the Wolves, but I would prefer a guy like Avery Johnson, who took advantage of his opportunity immediately. He did nothing but win during his tenure with the Mavericks. We need someone that can help put seats in the stands. If not him, pick another winner.
Buckhead Basketball
May 16th, 2010
11:02 pm
1. This team just won 50 PLUS games- SO, you cannot hire anyone who has never been a head coach in the NBA. You especially cannot have someone who is learning on the job with this team who has tasted some level of success.
2. Not sure who is the perfect hire but there are a number of teams with an opening and if the Hawks wait too long, they will be picking from the leftovers! New orleans and chicago could pull Casey away……so, we better hire him asap. If he is on everyones list, he must be pretty good!
3. Let’s see……coaching Derrick Rose, or Chris Paul or Mike Bibby????
Get him to sign a contract NOW and make sure he uses an INK pen…..so, he can’t change his mind when given the chance to coach CP 3!
Flo-Ri-Duh!
May 16th, 2010
11:08 pm
The big news is not who will be their head coach but the fact that the Hawks are up for sale.Arthur Blank won’t buy them…. to much waste of money even for him. Hawks have pretty much been leaderless since they have been in Atlanta. If Mike Brown gets fired they should go after him.
U dont want Bryon scott
May 16th, 2010
11:11 pm
http://www.atthehive.com/2009/5/1/860620/the-past-present-and-future-of
Mystikal
May 16th, 2010
11:11 pm
GET A CENTER!! WHAT CENTER??
Trade Josh Smith to Clippers for their 1st rounder, DeAndre Jordan, a future
1st rounder, and cash/trade exception
Trade Josh Smith to Memphis for Mark Gasol, Mike Conley (not panning out),
and 2 of their 1st round picks
Trade Josh Smith and our 1st round pick to Minnesota for Al Jefferson and
Wayne Ellington
Center is the hardest position to fill because there are so few, so other than getting lucky you
have to give to get. That is why I suggest trading Josh Smith cause he has a lot of value right now and no one wants Marvin Williams. What’d ya think?
Or Avery "Control Freak" Johnson
May 16th, 2010
11:12 pm
http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2010/5/15/1473504/hawks-coaching-search-whos-next
Gotta get an Alvin Gentry like person.
Personally, I think “Thunder” Dan Merjle (PHX Assistant) should be given a SERIOUS look.
Or Anyone From Nate "Iso-here we go again" McMillan's camp
May 16th, 2010
11:13 pm
#stepyagameup
Elston Turner
May 16th, 2010
11:13 pm
Turner has studied under a successful head coach in Rick Adelman for 9 years, and according to Chris Mannix, Turner “served as Adelman’s chief game strategist and organized the Rockets’ game plans during the 2008 playoffs”. I can only assume he did the same for the Rockets semi-successful run in the 2009 playoffs, when they upset the favored Portland Trail Blazers in six, and took the world champion LA Lakers to seven games. Mannix also writes, “Turner is considered a strong communicator who has embraced Adelman’s read-and-react offensive system.”
-This might be tha move
Elston Turner
May 16th, 2010
11:14 pm
We need Read and React Baby!! No more JJ ISO’s!!!!! Teague would kill in this offense. So would bibby, but let’s be real, we need to trade this guy b4 nobody wants him.
#thatruthhurtsometimes
Elston Turner
May 16th, 2010
11:14 pm
“Elston has almost 15 years of experience as a assistant coach – most of which came under Rick Adelman, who trusted him with major responsibilities on both ends of the court, with a focus on defense – and he has experienced success at every stop during his NBA career.”
Thunder Dan
May 16th, 2010
11:15 pm
Recently had an interviw ith the sixers:
“Dan Majerle – Majerle (44) carries the most unknowns of the candidates on this list. He’s been an assistant with the Suns for the past two years, and most known for his nickname, Thunder Dan. It’s hard to tell what kind of coach Majerle will be, which is why I have him so low on my list, paired with the fact that he’s only been an assistant for two years. The best thing about hiring Majerle is he believes the Sixers should play “fast”, and he’s right.”
Thunder Dan quotes:
“They’re talented,” Majerle said. “They’ve got a lot of similarities to the way [the Suns are] set up. I think they’re looking to play fast, which is probably one of the reasons they talked to me. With that personnel, they probably should play fast.”
-I like it
#mightbethamove
Sam Mitchell
May 16th, 2010
11:16 pm
Recently had an interviw ith the sixers:
“Mitchell is 46 and has four full years as a head coach under his belt. He coached the Raptors from ‘04-’08, accumulating a 156-189 record in the process. Since, and prior to his job with the Raptors he’s been an assistant in numerous places, most notably in Minnesota during the KG era. However; my interest in Mitchell has nothing to do with his past experience, but rather the things he said in an interview with Dei Lynam. Most note-worthy quotes:”
“Just give [Sam Dalembert] his defined role,” he explained. “Play him 35-38 minutes a night. Tell him to go get every rebound and block shot out there and if he fouls out in the process so be it. Just show him love.”
“If I saw Iguodala attempt more then two threes in a game, I would cry,” he said. He went on to add that Iguodala should be attempting double figure free-throw attempts as opposed to long jumpers.”
Sam Mitchell
May 16th, 2010
11:17 pm
Recently had an interviw ith the sixers:
“Mitchell is 46 and has four full years as a head coach under his belt. He coached the Raptors from ‘04-’08, accumulating a 156-189 record in the process. Since, and prior to his job with the Raptors he’s been an assistant in numerous places, most notably in Minnesota during the KG era. However; my interest in Mitchell has nothing to do with his past experience, but rather the things he said in an interview with Dei Lynam. Most note-worthy quotes:”
Sam Mitchell
May 16th, 2010
11:19 pm
If I saw Iguodala attempt more then two threes in a game, I would cry,” he said. He went on to add that Iguodala should be attempting double figure free-throw attempts as opposed to long jumpers.
Sam Mitchell
May 16th, 2010
11:21 pm
Just give Sam Dalembert his defined role,” he explained. “Play him 35-38 minutes a night.
Sam Mitchell
May 16th, 2010
11:21 pm
On Dalembert:
Tell him to go get every rebound and block shot out there and if he fouls out in the process so be it. Just show him love.”
More Evidence that Avery Johnson is Crazy
May 16th, 2010
11:23 pm
He has the sixers community a little worried:
“Johnson has a lot going for him. He’s young (45 years old), he has an absurd winning percentage in the regular season (.735, 194-70 career record), and already has a Coach of the Year award under his belt. The problems with Avery are, his teams have failed in the playoffs (23-24, including being on the wrong end of one of the biggest upsets in playoff history), he’s rumored to have a massive ego, and he said some questionable things about the Sixers roster during a radio interview last off-season. The cons outweigh the pros in Avery’s case, but he still remains an intriguing candidate.”
More Evidence that Avery Johnson is Crazy
May 16th, 2010
11:23 pm
Avery Johnson:
“Johnson was let go as Mavericks coach in May, 2008 after being unable to adjust to the roster he was presented, coming to a head late in that season, according to Mavs Moneyball.”
“Some insight into the soul of the now-ESPN analyst:”
“After the Denver loss, the first thing he did was strip Devin Harris of his freedom to run the offense. Fast breaks and offensive sets built off of transition were removed, as Johnson slowed the game down so that he could call plays and run the offense. For the first 20 games the Mavs offense was clocking in at 90 pace, a significant gain over the previous year’s glacial offensive pace. As we noted in a previous column, however, the pace was inconsistent. Twice in November Harris directed back-to-back-to-back games where the first game had a pace of over 95, which was followed up with a game where the pace plummeted to under 84, only to have the pace increase again to over 92. This inability to control the pace of the game clearly drove Johnson crazy, and the low point was, not coincidentally, the Denver game on December 6, where the Mavs played completely at Denver’s pace, over 100.”
“The next five games after Denver the Mavs pace never went over 85 and averaged an almost unbelievably slow pace of 83. To put this into perspective, the slowest team in 2006-2007 was the Detroit Pistons, and they averaged a pace of 86. After Denver, Johnson put the hammer down on Harris, and he never let up.”
#NOTthamove
I repeat: NOT THA MOVE!!!!
MAP
May 16th, 2010
11:45 pm
Mark Bradley……1 winning season for Sam Mitchell is more better than the losing record Casey has as a head coach. Notice I had Sam Mitchell 3rd on my list! LOL I just think the current team and players need a coach that will bring instant respect and will attract major free agents. The Hawks better make it worth it……after all, they still plan to raise ticket prices next year!!!!
t_height
May 16th, 2010
11:58 pm
@more evdience that Avery Johnson is not the answer:
I think Donnie Walsh or who their gm is wanted a more proven pg, not Avery so he went after Jason kidd. Kidd couldn’t adjust to the offense nor mesh with a winning team. it wasn’t avery johnson. Well you see what Dallas has done since Avery left
Flipper Gramsley
May 17th, 2010
1:34 am
Bottom line, the Hawks will get the same or worse results with CASEY as the they did with WOODSON. When are the Hawks franchise going to stop settling for below average coaches and below average Centers and Forwards at the end of their bench and on injured reserve. Bottom line: CASEY ISN”T THE ANSWER FOR THE HAWKS. THE HAWKS WILL NOT WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH CASEY. POINT BLANK
Brennan Huff
May 17th, 2010
3:24 am
I still say Dan Majerle would be the best hire. He could bring Cedric Ceballos with him as an assistant to coach up Josh Smith and Marvin Williams.
Big D Dawg
May 17th, 2010
5:12 am
one word — Lambier!!
Lame Beer
May 17th, 2010
6:10 am
It’s spelled “Laimbeer”. Let’s get it right, people!!!
jarvis
May 17th, 2010
9:01 am
If he’s Bradley’s first pick….I hate him.
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maadison jenkins
May 17th, 2010
9:36 am
byron scott would be a good fit! he’s been in plenty of playoff games and brings big-name notoriety! and has been through a lot of wars through the nineties, i like the sound of that, 3-D for coach!
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May 17th, 2010
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[...] permalink Hawks like Mavs assistant Dwayne Casey, so they asked permission from Dallas GM Donnie Nelson to interview the guy. Read more… [...]
Frontman
May 17th, 2010
10:35 am
No mention of his cheating at UK, Mr. Bradley? I’m surprised at you… or not. I guess Dwane doesn’t have to mail any money to anyone as part of his NBA coaching duties…
Frontman
May 17th, 2010
10:40 am
Sorry, FancyDawg, I didn’t see your post from last night. I’m glad someone else didn’t forget…
The Murf
May 17th, 2010
10:47 am
I will give up my season tickets if they do not sign an improvement of Woody. You do not let a guy go who improved each season and hire another assistant. This is completely ridiculous.
Sav Fan
May 17th, 2010
11:17 am
Is this a southern thing or what. I don’t understand why Atlanta teams build a team up to be competitive and then blow up the team and start from scatch. If Casey is hired this is pure politics becaue Sund wants someone he knows. When was the last time Seattle competed for the title.
This was all planned and that is why Woodson was not offerred a contract. Only a championship would have got Woodson a contact and that would have upset or delayed Sund’s plan to hire Casey.
Veteran Fan
May 17th, 2010
12:34 pm
As long as the coach is young and energetic like the Miami coach I don’t care who it is! Sign and trade JJ and Bibby to the Nets to run with Lebron for Harris their point. Trade Josh and Marvin for Bosh in a sign and trade and their draft pick. Use the two draft picks to get the Heyward kid from Butler. Go after Kaman from the Clippers in free-agency. Sign Childress. Line up Kaman C, Horford PF, Bosh SF, Crawford SG, Harris PG. Reserves Zaza, Childress, Heyward, Teague fill in the rest. Can get 20 points per game from all starters, plenty of match up advantages with reserves and all can play good defense with the exception of Crawford. Team is young and can contend for 3-5 seasons with plenty of size and physical players. Can run or play half-court. Toronto gets Josh to put people in the seats for a player who is leaving anyway. NJ gets JJ to pair with Lebron and Lopez and they have a lottery pick to go with them much stronger than Cleveland and an experienced point in Bibby. Win win for everyone.
Avery Johnson wouldn't be my choice for the Hawks | Mark Bradley
May 17th, 2010
2:59 pm
[...] the first interview in the Hawks’ coaching search. (As reported in this space yesterday, Dallas assistant Dwane Casey will also be interviewed.) And that’s understandable: Johnson is a big name, and he’s an obvious man to [...]
Philip Meehan
May 17th, 2010
3:16 pm
***PHIL HANSON FOR HAWKS COACH ****
NEVER HURTS TO GIVE A LOCAL GUY A SHOT
coo coo bird fan
May 18th, 2010
8:58 am
You can bring Phil Jackson in here and it wont matter until the owners put there big britches on and start spending some money. Economic crisis, schmisis, either you want to win or you dont, period! We will never beat the Lebrons, KG’s, DHowards, Kobe’s of the world until we have a REAL superstar. Sorry Joe but superstars dont miss layups and shoot sub 40% from the field in the playoffs. I’ll take Avery and Dirk and I’ll see ya in the ECF next year.
KingCobra
May 18th, 2010
1:07 pm
When Josh Smith was snubbed from the all-star game this past season, I felt Josh should have made the squad. But after the Orlando and Milwaukee series of the playoffs where Josh played foolish basketball and appeared to have ATTITUDE PROBLEMS when he repeatedly QUIT PLAYING while the game was going on, I thought not only should Josh Smith have been fined at least $50,000 by the Hawks but he should have been traded somewhere else. I also thought that during the all-star break, Josh Smith was our most improved player and the Hawks most valuable player for the season up until that point, but after the all-star break Al Horford has progressed so much that now to point where Al Horford is a more dangerous offensive player than Dwight Howard. In fact, “Big” Al is now more dangerous than WILT CHAMBERLAIN was and the INCREDIBLE HULK. The Hawks should win at least 60 GAMES NEXT SEASON. I hope the Hawks get a really good head coach because it will take a great coach to get the Hawks into the finals next season and win a championship.
JoeyLombardy
May 18th, 2010
2:09 pm
Avery Johnson is not the answer. Avery had a talented Mavs team that won 60 games, probably the strongest Dallas team ever but Avery was like woodsen in that he couldnt elevate his players to the NEXT LEVEL (CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL). Dont waste your money, Avery will fail.
TK Williams
May 19th, 2010
1:57 pm
For all you basketball heads…do your due diligence on Casey’s stint in Minnesota!!! And what idiot keeps bringing up the Kentucky issue (over 20 years ago). If you want to talk about scandals, we can….every coach would be put on blast. The Hawks need to learn to play defense and a lot of it. That’s Casey’s speciality. He’s coached some of the best players in the league. He’s the man for the job…PERIOD!!!