‘It was like a bad dream’: Actually, Game 5 was even worse

sorry, Official

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O.k., not First. I really have to figure out how that RSS thing works…

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Mr. Bradley,

In your blog yesterday “A new coach for the Hawks? Be careful what you wish for”, you pointed out how Avery Johnson’s Mavs led the NBA finals 2-0, and never won another game.

Nevermind the fact that they were playing Miami led by DWade and a motivated Shaq. Nevermind the fact that Wade got just about every single call on his way to Finals MVP. Nevermind the fact that they were being coached by HOF Pat Riley.

The Hawks were up 2-0 to a Bucks team without its 2 best players and run by a rookie PG. So if the Hawks were to lose this series, do you think Woody should be resigned?

Even if the Hawks win this series, Do you think Woody should be resigned?

I’ll hang up and listen.

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Between the current state of the Braves and the loud crashing slide of the Hawks, at least we have 4 more episodes of ‘24′ to keep us awake…

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I’ve never seen a professional team panic any worse than the Hawks did last night. And talk about a pathetic game plan by Woodson. Al Horford was trying to cover Ridnour in the open floor. The offense was 5 guys standing with iso-Joe followed by iso-Jamal after Johnson fouled out. None of Crawford’s shots late in the game were even close to going in. He was just throwing the ball up toward the basket hoping it would go in. He shot an air ball from 3 feet on a drive to the basket. Josh Smith couldn’t keep a hustling journeyman from getting every rebound and loose ball in the last 2 minutes.

One would think that the team that would have the problem matching up would be the one without any height. In the last 7-8 minutes of the game I recall exactly one time when the Hawks took advantage of a height mismatch (a layup from Marvin Williams). Milwaukee took advantage of their quickness advantage on every offensive possession down the stretch.

An absolute disgrace.

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troy glaus… What a COMPLETE WASTE !!! Did frank wren go to the don waddell school of how to destroy a team ??? I think so and he, like waddell should be RUN OUT OF TOWN !

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This team has never once overachieved. What’s the point of winning this series when they will get spanked by every other team left in the field. I can’t beleive I’m saying it but Milwaukee deserves this series. Get a new coach and get a key player who won’t choke in crunch time!

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I nominate that we rename ourselves the Atlanta Peaches. We can put a big smiley face on the peach for our logo. Or maybe we can play off the WNBA team and be the Atlanta Nightmare. I was thinking that the name of ths article could have been “The Choke by Coke.”

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This doesn’t come close to the Wohlers choke game against the Yankees. That blew a World Series. This blew a first round game in a playoffs that they were going to lose in the second round anyway. Woody is the man.

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Just a bunch of knuckleheads playing streetball…..

Why the surprise? No coaching, no discipline, no game plan, no offensive identity, no intensity, no defense, etc., etc., etc.

Just a bunch of knuckleheads playing streetball…..

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mark,you are always trying to draw correlations between teams of the distant past(1989) and now with hawks, braves , falcons etc, there is absolutely nothing to be drawn from this, different players, coaches, owners, like jerry seinfeld once said we are rooting for laundry

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Two reason we lost game 5. 1) Mike Woodson 2) Josh Smith taking a 3 point shot with 15 seconds on the shot clock and under 2 minutes left in the game. The Bucks out coached the Hawks and played better team basketball. The Hawks got beat by a 19 year old rookie and a 50 year old undersized center. Hopefully Rick Sund has noticed what the Hawks are missing. A coach who can actually coach his players.

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The players nicknames, the highlight factory, the fake toughness, are all bush league. Win something before you start strutting around-oh I forgot this isn’t basketball it is entertainment. My kingdom for one back door cut! A sad excuse for how the game is supposed to be played.

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at least the hawks are in the playoffs, something the braves will never again experience….lmfao

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NO ONE ON THIS TEAM EVER OVERACHIEVES

MARVIN HAS TO COME HOME AND GET SCOLDED BY THE COACHES TO ACTUALLY SCORE POINTS

FIRE WOODY DAMNIT

BLOW UP THIS CORE. THEY SUCK, OK

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No heart. No spine. No brains. No court leadership. No coaching. No chance.

I give up. Josh Smith can’t control his emotions. Mike Bibby is old, slow and fat. Joe Johnson is NOT A BIG GAME PLAYER. Are you listening, Rick Sund? Let Joe sign somewhere else next year — we’re mediocre with him, and we can be mediocre without him without having to pay him $20 million a year when he’s 35-36 years old at the end of the next contract.

I’d say “Fire Woody!” but I don’t even think that’s a topic of discussion anymore. Last night was likely his final home game, which is fine with me. Six years later, and Josh Smith still whines like a 3-year old and has no idea how to stay within the game. Six years later, and we’re still running stupid switches that ask Al Horford (!!!) to keep up with Brandon Jennings, who might be the quickest player in the league. And of course, once Jennings blows past Al as expected, Josh just watches him lay the ball in and sulks a little bit more every time.

Enough. 33 years rooting for this pathetic bunch of losers, and I’ve just had it. No bigger Hawks fan in this city than me over the years, but everyone has his limits. I quit.

Just like they did.

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This team is just plain awful. I hope the Bucks close it out in game 6 so the Hawks can begin the search for a new coach.

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the funny thing is I’m used to these kinda results, being in Atlanta all my life what was I thinking a team from my hometown would make a run at anything!!!

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At Taco Mac last night watching the Hawks, Bravos and Caps play. Was basically there to watch the hockey but was glad I was able to catch all 3 side by side.

Of the 3 meltdowns that occurred, I thought the Hawks had the game in hand with a 10 point lead. Haha, that’s what I get for thinking beyond the cursed Atlanta sports regimes. Am I the only one that secretly wishes for failures hoping they result in overhauls that will FINALLY bear some fruit?

The Doc is correct, we need an exorcism in this town.

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Hope Josh Smith enjoys another trip to Milwaukee!

Milwaukee deserves the win at this point and I doubt there’s many people outside of Atlanta who actually want to see the pathetic Hawks come back and win the series. Talent alone does not always guarantee success! Right now, the Bucks are the better TEAM.

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This team, in its current state, has no right to even continue in the playoffs. They are little more than a bunch of really athletic, taller-than-average males who can play ball better than most dudes at your local gym. That’s it. They have no professionalism, no drive, and in the case of Josh Smith, no COMMON SENSE. Seriously, when will that dummy learn that he can NOT put up a long jumper/3-pointer in the 4th quarter with the game on the line??? And don’t even get me started on how the players ignored Woody in the time out as the refs reviewed Horford’s 3-point shot. The players don’t listen to the coach; the coach has no clue HOW to coach; and THAT means that personnel needs to change.

BTW, this comment comes from someone who has never played a game of organized b-ball in her life. I may not be an athlete, but I know enough about how the game SHOULD be played to know that this Hawks team needs to be rebuilt. I’m rooting for the Bucks and the Cavs (my old hometown team) from here on out.

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MUST WIN SITUATION!!!! HA! THIS SERIES SHOULD’VE NEVER BEEN CLOSE FOR THE BUCKS!!!

BRANDON JENNINGS GOT TOO MUCH SWAG FOR A ROOKIE!!! FIRST PLAYOFFS APPEARANCE…!!

JOE JOHNSON, JENNINGS IS STUNTING YOU!!! HE ISN’T JUST FLAUNTING AGAINST THE HAWKS ORG., JENNINGS IS BOASTING AGAINST YOU!!!

This is your time to shine for that new contract deal either for the Hawks or another team…

For all its worth, Joe you got to put it all on the line playing forty-eight minutes in Milwaukee..Guarding and stopping Jennings and scoring on whoever guarding you. John Salmon got away with some stiff hand-checking and hard body bumping.

MARVIN WILLIAMS NEED TO SHOW UP IN MILWAUKEE AS HE DID LAST NIGHT…

INSIDE, OUTSIDE GAME HAWKS. BUCKS DON’T HAVE A TRUE ANSWER FOR HORFORD OR JOSH SMITH.

JAMAL CRAWFORD, FIND YOUR SHOT BY DRIVING TO BASKET SOMETIMES..

MAKE BEDLAM HAWKS!!! STRIKE FRIGHT IN YOUR OPPONENT!!!

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I try to support the Hawks, but when a team shows no heart, very little character, and much selfishness whenever things get tough, it’s tough. Lack of concentration? Can’t get into rhythm? This isn’t middle school, this is their job, their career. I know that the other team can make things difficult, but counting exhibitions they’re closing in on 100 games this year and they still whine about concentration and rhythm. The Hawks, collectively, act like a group of immature little boys. I would break them up and bring some character in, but with the contracts they have I think we’re stuck with this crap.

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In 2010-11, the hawks should be much better–this year, they are young and still learning to play together. With a couple of good draft picks, they should go deep into the playoffs next season. They need to pay woody some big cash to keep him around so he doesn’t take the philly job and try to get d-wade from miami, but it may take $20 mil per year.

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Flash and dash…..

Whatever happened to shot selection, being in position to rebound, and defense?

Lost arts to knuckleheads playing basketball

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JENNINGS GOT TOO MUCH SWAG FOR A ROOKIE..FIRST TIME PLAYOFFS APPEARANCE..

JOE JOHNSON, YOU CAN’T LET THIS ROOKIE JENNINGS STUNT ON YOU. SHUT THAT ROOKIE DOWN!!!!

JOHN SALMONS GOT AWAY WITH ALOT OF STIFF HAND-CHECKING AND HARD BODY-BUMPING!!!

INSIDE, OUTSIDE GAME, BUCKS DON’T HAVE ANY REAL ANSWER FOR HORFORD OR JOSH SMITH…

CAN MARVIN DUPLICATE HIS GAME IN MILWAUKEE…

HAWKS MAKE BEDLAM,,,STRIKE FRIGHT INTO YOUR OPPONENT!!!

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Supporting the Hawks is like supporting an STD!!

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NextYear, did you just take a few too many happy pills or something? I’m sorry, but this team can’t use the “young” excuse anymore. They’re playoff tested. They don’t start any rookies. Why pay to keep a coach who doesn’t know the fundamentals of NBA basketball? And there is no way in the Hot Place Down Below that D-Wade is coming here. ASG can’t afford him, and you can’t really expect one player to totally transform the team anyway.

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It is so easy to jump on the bandwagon or rather join the band in this case against the Hawks players and Staff. They are athletic and that is what got them through this season their athleticism. Coaching ahhhh..well lets just say that they have not been developed or been taught the game. Point and case look at how long it took Josh Smith to stop shooting threes, years…you have some big bodies on the bench use them…why do we have Joe Smith…. Jeff Teague is super fast give him some playing time….and the knock against Woody could go on for awhile but why waist the energy.
I truly love all Georgia Sports Teams but it seems that no one wants to be a champion just “champagne dreams and caviar wishes”! If you asked a butterfly if he wanted to be a catapillar he would say “H to the No” if you asked a catarpillar if he wanted to be a butterfly he would say ooh H yes, but if you told him what he would have to go through to become one he would say forget that! There has to some discipline, some grinding, sacrifice and obedience to becoming and being a champion. I wish that someone would really catch on fire and lead the way. Year in year and year out I am hopeful that there will be a champion here we Georgians can be proud of Dawgs; Jackets; Hawks; Braves; yet mediocracy reigns. We have the the talent tons of talent yet the coaching of that is not there, the money that needs to be spent to get that coach is here just not put in use. Kudos to Arthur Blanks get you a winner here Son. I am Hopeful for the Falcons though not pleased with the draft choices this year.
Last but not least the fans have to quit feeling like we are the victims because contrary to popular belief we have a choice in who we support if we are going to support them support them all the way in the good in the bad let them all know that they can overcome adversity, to embrace it, it is for their upbuilding not for their degradation.

I so want to chomp on the Hawks I just really want badmouth them, as well as the Braves, the Dawgs, the Jackets, But I continually choose to root for them so I try to stay positive…And instead of asking is the glass half full or half empty I say there is something in the glass fill it on up ….we shall overcome…. we shall overcome……

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When the Hawks were stumbling down the stretch, I thought something like this could happen. If Milwaukee closes this out, Woodson needs to be gone the next day. I’m glad Sund didn’t extend him. He’s gone as far as he can.

Having written, that, they’ll probably come back and win the NBA title. That would be OK, too.

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It all goes back to overpaying for Joe Johnson and the continued efforts to prove he was worth it! The franchiseis broken.

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Grove
I felt like that after games three and four, the Bucks knocked the glass over last night,

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The Hawks will definitely win the next two games. Josh Smith Will average 50 points in both games. J-Smoove all the way baby.

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“It’s Official- The Sports Gods hate ATLANTA!!!!”

Amen Doc

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Just heard a very telling interview on 790 the zone with Sekou Smith. Sekou talked about how this team is just riddled with trust issues that go all the way back to Josh Childress and his reasons for leaving the hawks. Smith also revealed that this team is soo dysfunctional as a unit that only two of Jamal Crawford’s teammates showed up to support Crawford when he won the sixth man award…………and those two players were Zaza Pachulia and Randolf Morris. There was also talk about how Mike Woodson does nothing to prepare his rookies ( Jeff Teague) for games in the regular season, and more importantly the playoffs, and this team did not have a clue as what they needed to do to get off a shot last night when it counted….and the problems with this team as a whole clearly come from the top…..in particular with this coaching staff, and the flawed mentality of this team is again, a direct result of the coaching staff. Very interesting interview and perspective from Sekou.

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Ball Movement ? This is a team Game ?

Come on folks how many one on one teams go far in the playoffs ?

The coaching is to blame for the current environment.

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Joe Johnson has proven he’s not worth a max deal, if he wants that he should leave. If not, then I’d be happy if he came back.

Woodson has to be gone, there’d be no reason to keep him. I’m sure Sund wants to get rid of him, would have given him an extension earlier. This was a 50 win team and now on the brink of getting eliminated by a lesser opponent in the first round, just sad.

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I watched a little of the Braves game and saw that they were behind 6 – 0 and said this is over. I turned to the Hawks and saw that they were ahead and said they will find a way to blow it. I went to bed and found out later that I was right. I have been telling anyone who would listen for weeks that the Hawks are not a real playoff team. I know they made the playoffs in the eastern conference, but that’s not saying much. They essentially have the same record as the OKC Thunder, the eight seed in the west. Just imagine if Milwaukee was at full strength, the Hawks might have gotten swept. This team is the result of not taking a PG in 2005 when we drafted Marvin Williams, drafting Sheldon Williams in 2006 when we could have had Brandon Roy, Rudy Gay, or Randy Foye. Now we are stuck in mediocrity. Not good enough to advance in the playoffs, but not bad enough to get a high lottery pick to improve this team. I believe the Hawks need to break up this team. I would inquire if the Hornets would be interested in trading Chris Paul. With the good play of Darren Collison this year they may be willing to listen to a deal that would package Marvin Williams and Josh Smith for Chris Paul.

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Lakers have Kobe. Cavs have LeBron. Heat have DWade. Mavs hav Dirk. Magic have Dwight. Celtics have Pierce. Thunder have Durant. Hawks have Joe Johnson. Which one of these does not belong?

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Ok, ignore everything but the end of the fourth when the Bucks took the lead. What was the first play? A Josh Smith three-point attempt. What were the next few plays? Jamal Crawford throwing himself in the lane into double-and-triple coverage and hoisting up off-balance shots. Then an Al Horford three-pointer that he banked off the backboard? The Hawks did not, successfully or unsuccessfully, actually run a play after losing the lead in the fourth. Whose fault is that?

Bradley’s if-we-fire-woodson-we-might-get-someone-worse argument is definitely fair, but I would certainly think that another coach might actually try to run some plays in the last two minutes of the most important game of the season.

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all you atanta people keep whining, why? because you people are to stuck up to say what, that the MILWAUKEE BUCKS beat you guys? trying to find excuses? how could we, the Atlanta Hawks, lose to the Milwaukee Bucks, where you cant find a restaurant or anything to do. ha, sad to say it you guys but welcome to wisconsin! GO BUCKSSSSSSS!

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Josh Smith is the most “Gutless” of all the Hawks. He is not a smart basketball player and he got out hustled by lesser talented guys down the stretch. And what happened on that perfect alley-up pass? I’m still trying to figure that out.

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all along we knew that woodson couldn’t get us over the hump, yet our win totals kept increasing every year, numbing us to this reality only to surface when we had the right players in place and were primed for a good playoff run

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Here’s an idea, dump Woodson (JV coach at best), Johnson (thinks he’s as good as Kobe), Bibby (slow, fat, useless), Williams (overpaid, overdrafted, mentally slow), and Pachulia (just on the team because he’s European). Then, go after Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosch without being cheap. Move Horford to PF where he belongs, and threaten to drop Smith if he ever has a brain fart and decides to become PG or shoots outside the paint! Then draft a good back-up guard and center in the draft. Hopefully the Hawks GM is better than Wren.

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Hey, Dr. Kenneth Noisewater, sorry the Octagon and I were late.

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Thank you O’Brien. If Avery Johnson presided over the biggest flop in Finals history because he lost to D-Wade (which I believe he average over 30 in that finals) with Shaq as his sidekick…..then what is Woodson presiding over? When a team beats you with less, you are being out coach.

Bradley as much as you are trying to stick up for Woodson, you never brought up his playoff record on the road. 0% winning percentage I believe. Sure, I can go down the Hawks roster and look at each player’s fault, but the fact remains the Hawks has one of the most talented roster in the leauge and Woodson has proven he can’t translate that talent into winning when it matters.

The Hawks clearly need to get rid of Woodson first and then decided about JJ. Honestly I don’t think he is worth max money especially when we need a big man (I don’t want to hear it Bradley, Horford has gotten outplayed by Kurt Thomas…who is almost 15 years his elder.) However not signing JJ will probably mean this team will have to change drastically to make up for this loss.

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Charlie Rosen of MSN
“For Atlanta to lose such an important game at home to a decidedly inferior team like the Bucks is nothing short of shameful. Moreover, Scott Skiles would absolutely destroy Mike Woodson in a game of one-on-one.”

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Some of you guys are hammering Marvin and Al. Did you watch the game last night? They were the ONLY ones who did anything. If not for them, we would have been blown out.

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im sick of people saying that the “Bucks are inferior” we beat you guys get over it. have fun for the rest of spring crying over the hawks and the underacheiving bravs while the bucks make a glamourous run to the NBA Finals.

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Nathan B.
Don’t know about the finals but The Bucks were never inferior, undermaned yes,

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The beloved Sekou Smith of NBA.com:

“We’re going to win,” Horford said. “No question about it. That’s the bottom line. We have to bring it back to Atlanta [for Game 7 Sunday].”

Were Horford the Hawks’ center of attention and not just their center, his words would carry more weight.

But captain and All-Star Joe Johnson is the Hawks’ catalyst, and his ominous words in the aftermath of this debacle spoke volumes about the shaky state of affairs for a team that entered the postseason with aspirations of battling Orlando for a spot in the Eastern Conference finals.

“We’ll just have to go up to Milwaukee and see what we can come up with,” Johnson said.

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I’m hurt for real, I need to be single as a fan for a while, tell the Hawks I’m changing my number!

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I agree babyJay, the crowd definitely seemed out of it most of last night. But, honestly, they probably all knew what was going to happen…not that that’s an excuse to not support the team, though.

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The Hawks are done, but you people fail to realize that the Hawks have done nothing but overachieve. The NBA is a league in which most analyst agree that you cant hide players but the Hawks have been hiding Mike Bibby on defense and its lack of size on the interior for 3 years now while bringing back hope to the city. Why can’t people just give them credit while admitting that it is over for this current roster?

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The worst thing that can happen now is for the Hawks to win the next two games and then win one or two against Orlando in the next round. If this happens management will consider the season a success and resign Coach Woodson to a long term deal. Woodson has been totally out coached in this series and throughout his tenure. The team has improved despite its obvious coaching weaknesses. Good assistant, terrible head coach because he refuses to learn and change . This is why he cannot make in game adjustments and continues to under utilize his bench to the detriment of the starters. What we saw last night was the overflowing fustration of players who are tired of covering up the flaws of their head coach. When JJ fouled out, he actually looked relieved that he was out of the game. Did anyone else see that?

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Tuned in for a few minutes, and saw what I usually see when I defy my better instincts and watch the Hawks — a godawful offensive scheme where Joe Johnson dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and the other four guys stand around waiting for the inevitable. Which, of course, is Joe Johnson taking a shot, often a low percentage shot. And then near the end, there’s Josh Smith dribbling and dribbling and dribbling…and losing the ball. And then Johnson dribbles, etc, etc…and loses the ball.

The Hawks may have better athletes, but under pressure they “go playground” — no discipline, no
coordination, no teamwork. The Bucks were the better TEAM last night, and the better team usually wins.

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I officially am announcing my retirement. I have came to a realization that I am too fat, old, and stupid to coach an NBA team. I want to go back to my previous job as a water boy, however my diabetes prevents it.

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Oh, yeah, I forgot: and for the record, that’s why you couldn’t GIVE me tickets to a Hawks game, and why I refuse to watch them on TV.

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i need booze: this isn’t a shot at you, just all atlanta sports fans in general…im not saying some of the fans, like one section, need to wear all white….im talking the whole arena. Somehow all these other cities and their fans buy in….why can’t we?

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I agree, Bradley. That’s what stings – this team won a decent # of games, and is the 3 seed in the East. But all that obviously doesn’t mean much now. Except that they’ve been able to win despite their flaws in the regular season. I’m not totally giving up on the entire team forever, but they do need to dump some players and revamp the coaching staff IMO. Can’t keep spinning their wheels like this anymore. We’re the laughing stock of the NBA right now.

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Hawks huddle in last seconds of the game. All eyes on the scorer’s table to see if Horford’s last shot was a 2 or a 3, and NOT on the play Coach is trying to draw up. Hawks inbound the ball, can’t get a shot off, lose the game.

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If they reamke the Wizard of Oz…we have the supporting cast:

Josh Smith as Scarecrow..NO BRAINS

Joe Johnson as the Cowardly Lion…NO COURAGE

Mike “got schooled by Brandon Jennings” Bibby NO HEART..and finally……

Mike Woodson as Dorothy..I hope he finds his way home…anywhere but Atlanta

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53 win is our ceiling…

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@ Ken

Good point …. If the Hawks had made it to the second round, then the ASG would have offered Woodson a long-term contract and this team would have continued to be mediocre for years to come.

Me thinks Joe Johnson is headed to Miami to play with D-Wade (they have enough to max-out two players).

Blow-up this roster and take a long, hard look at Mark Jackson as a possible head. His basketball acumen if off the charts, he’s a former point guard (they usually make solid head coaches – Scott Skiles anyone?), and he would have instant respect in the locker room.

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People say Atlanta is a bad pro sports town, and perhaps they are right, but my Lord:

The Thrashers are pathetic. They have managed one post season performance, they lost four straight, and they have traded away their best players.
The Hawks are not even good pretenders. Up nine with four minutes to play in game six and they give up or as they like to put it “they lose concentration”. They stop running their offense, they stop boxing out on rebounds – they just STOPPED PLAYING! I don’t even care about pro basketball. I only watched the last quarter of last night’s game and it was pathetic.
What is common to the Thrashers and Hawks – the ownership group. They have probably spent more on legal fees suing each other than they have on their teams.
And last but not least – the Braves. I don’t think it is a coincidence that they are on their longest losing streak since 1990. They play like they are all sleep walking on Ambien. They have almost as many errors in a game as hits. They make every opposing pitcher look like Cy Young. I’m beginning to think that the slow slide that started four years ago has brought them back to where they were before 1991.
Yeah. being a pro sports fan in Atlanta is a real treat.

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JC the Hawks did not successfully run a play in the entire 4th quarter, except possibly the one time they got the ball to Marvin on an obvious mismatch. Hell that wasn’t a play that was just good recognition by Josh and Marvin. It’s all part of the same pattern. Let me add my voice once again to the chorus. FIRE MIKE WOODSON! Yeah the team played very out of sync in the fourth quarter last night. But they had a monster 3rd Quarter, and I was still screaming at my tv, FIRE MIKE WOODSON! The list of his transgressions is far too long, but forgive me because I need the catharsis.
1. Stuck in witching defense. It’s one thing to do it against a different opponent every night, but to keep trying the same thing against the same opponent for 6-7 straight games is nothing short of lunacy.
2. Point guard killer. He can’t say he doesn’t play rookies because every rookie big man he has gotten , has played. Woodson killed Acie Law’s basketball career, and is murdering Teague’s before our very eyes.
3. No offense. JJ fouls out. Hawks have ball side out. Jamal inbounds to Al (five feet outside the 3 point line) and Al spends the nest 8 seconds trying to get the ball back to Jamal, until the officials finally get tired of it and call a foul on Salmons (who was actually playing pretty good D). The other three Hawks players are standing on the court completely of my 42 inch screen, not moving. This is the essence of the offensive genius that comes out of a Woodson timeout.
4. Cannot (or will not) properly use his bench. Everyone I know says the Hawks are at least 5 deep on the bench this year. So why is it that we only see Jamal and ZaZa? Mo Evans hasn’t played much, and nobody else has gotten more than “end of quarter don’t want my starter to get a foul” seconds of playing time. Did u see Jeff Teague come out of nowhere to make a play on that Bucks breakaway. Hell I thought it was a good block, but it was at least a great foul. How can a coach not figure out a way to use that energy productively for at least 10 minutes a night? Have you ever seen Woodson sub Teague directly for Bibby? Me either? Last night was a high energy game and the Bucks had more energy late because they had all gotten more rest.
5. Can’t develop players. People say the Hawks have gotten better every year, but really how could they have gotten worse? I’m inclined to think the growth of the young players is something that happened because of the simple fact of time passing. And the Marvin Williams we saw last night was the one we expected to get in with a first round pick. If he is capable of that, why can’t this coach get it out of him. Joe Johnson has regressed under Woodson,
6. Can’t control the team. And by that I don’t mean they don’t listen to him. They do, often to their own detriment. And they’ve started doing it with increasingly bad attitudes. Like maybe they realize that it’s not working and they wish they could try something else. They pay little attention in the huddle, and why should they if the gist of the message is “Iso-Joe(Jamal)”

I could go on, and I probably will later. Let me just say in closing,

please,

somebody,

go down to Phillips Arena

and fire mike woodson,

today.

thank you

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An insight on Scott Skiles high school days (might help if you are from Indiana or Kentucky): Skiles scored 39 points in double overtime to beat powerful Gary Roosevelt for the state championship in 1982 when Indiana had an open tournament vs classes. Skiles was the star for Plymouth, IN., the smallest school to win the state since Milan in 1954 (re: Hoosiers). He tied the game with a last second shot, then went on to hit the game winner with no time left during the second overtime. This guy does not quit and has instilled the same attitude in the Bucks.

Doug Messerlie

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@jake: If the 76ers hire Woodson over…say….Larry Brown…I can’t even comprehend a move like that. Stranger things have happened, though.

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Why is Bibby even on the floor? That cat is done! And what’s up with that little skip-dribble! This ain’t Hop-Scotch man!

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I think I will begin the offseason by having my barber shave my eyebrows off again.

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Every one of the Hawks should be fired and forced to dig ditches or ride the back of a garbage truck. That’s all they’e qualified for.

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I was born a bred in Atlanta and remember the criticisms of the mid 80’s teams with Nique for so many years. Nique, Doc, Spud and the rest did not give us a championship but they were fighters for the most part which I can hardly say for this group. Its amazing that were still talking about some of the same stuff that we were talking about in the 80’s and how much Manning was going to be so much better for the team back in 94. As much bashing as the Hawks took years ago especially Dominique in this city, I assure you this team would not even come close to battling a Larry Bird led team and come close to beating them in a seven game series like we almost did. We didn’t win then and we certainly don’t look like were going to win now but I for one would love to go back in time just one day and have my dad take me to the Omni to see that old team like we used to. At least they had heart unlike this bunch.

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Also, Mark, can you find out how many people (players, coaches, management) showed up for Jamal Crawford receiving the 6th man award (not the presentation pre-game)?? I heard there were only a couple players and maybe Rick Sund? If so, that is incredibly telling and sad about this team as far as team unity.

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I’m from Milwaukee, It was so great to see your over rated team chock their sorry asses off. Josh smith and company ought to have feared the deer a little more

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Everyone wonders why this town has such fair weathered fans? Well all of the sports teams in this town just play good enough to get you interested and then fall down! Last night was the perfect example! Then look at the Braves team, Bobby Cox last season and this is the play your going to give him? I am ashamed to be a Hawks fan a Braves fan, Thrashers fan, and a UGA fan!!!!!!!! This states teams all are washed up losers!!!!! WE SUCK at everything except traffic and murders and bank robbers there we are #1! This state deserves better!

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ben ,
Sekou Smith was on the radio this morning and he said that only Zaza Pachulia and Randolf Morris showed up to support Crawford for his achievement.

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Damn, they’re even clowning the Hawks on the front page of SI.com (Morning Jolt).

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If our pro teams keep this up, the only title they are gonna win is the one given to them years ago.
LOSERVILLE!

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When will people understand that the regular season wins do not mean anything? I rather be a 6-7 seed and utilized our bench and new players so we have more depth in the playoffs. In the playoffs coaching is a big factor. MAKING ADJUSTMENTS guys…. Seriously that simple.

FIRE WOODY

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After I shave my eye brows, I will go return and coach the Washington Capitals hockey.

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whatever, hell they got me so choked up I cant even spell.

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I guess the beauty in all of this is that the Hawks actually have a passionate fan base. The ASG had better realize this and make smart moves going forward before the masses develop the worst thing that a fan base can develop ……………. APATHY!

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Come on Atlanta, even though my broadcasts are as bias as a speech at the Republican Convention, ya’ll should have faith in your Hawks. Faith that Bibby will get smoked again by a ROOKIE, Faith that an unknown euro (Ersan ‘THE MAN’ Ilyasova) will out-hustle and make perennial All-Star J. Smith look like a role player in the PeeWee division, and Faith that the brilliant strategist and motivator Mike Woodson will continue to lead the Hawks down a path of Glory. And also Faith that you will be watching round 2 from your couch after getting ousted by a bunch of no-names, foreign internationals, and old fux like KURT THOMAS (!!!!!) and JERRY STACKHOUSE!!!

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After I shave my eyebrows, I am joining the Cleveland Show on FOX. That way my stupidity can be laughed at as opposed to frowned upon!

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Josh Smith and JJ have a look on their face like they smell s**t all the time. I know in the huddle they hear s**t but what’s the facial expressions about? If you don’t like what you see do something about it. Don’t just pout and act like some pitiful superstar that’s unlucky. Play your heart out and maybe someday you will become a superstar.
We need a new/fresh coach but you know what it’s not all Woody’s fault. No leadership on the floor whatsoever. This team makes me sick. ANY underachieving team makes me sick. I swear when I played ball as a pee wee we played harder. We used to beat people by 60 points all the time. We played our hearts out on defense. Man did we play hard. This team plays like their coach talks. Real slow and without alot of purpose. A new fresh no nonsense coach and a high energy guard would do wonders with this team.

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PLEASE, TAKE TIME TO READ THIS.FIRST, YES WE NEED A NEW COACH. ATLANTA IS TO GOOD A TEAM, TALENT WISE TO PLAY SO HORRIBLE.THE COACHING STYLE DOES NOT FIT THE TALENT. UP TEMPO TEAM PLAYING HALF COURT BALL.SECOND, WE NEED A POINT GUARD. LOVE YA MARVIN,BUT BOY IF YOU COULD IMAGINE DERRON WILLIAMS RUNNING POINT. THIRD,WE NEED A CENTER. HORFORD IS GREAT,BUT CARRIES TO MUCH OF THE BURDEN AT HIS SIZE.CRAWFORD WAS KEY ADDITION THIS YEAR. LET,S ADD THE OTHER PIECES TO THE PUZZLE.

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Ben,
The interview that Sekou gave was very interesting….he talked about how Josh Childress left this team because of trust issues, and that the mentality of this team is a direct result of the coaching staff, and Woodson could not even draw a decent play up for his team without Joe Johnson when he needed ot the most. Smith also lamented how it looked like Al Horford and J. Crawford were basically running in circles during a 16 second offensive stretch were the hawks were desperate for a shot. Sekou also said that without a doubt that Brandon Jennings would not be where he is at this point in the season had he been a hawk, and that is because woodson just does not trust or give his rookies a chance or develops them when he needs them the most…….Sekou was clearly at the end of his rope with Woodson with the interview that he gave.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….

Keep wasting your time with this team and awful sport…..

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[...] Delfino, who fumbled the catch but still hit the clinching trey over Mike Bibby. Read more: 'It was like a bad dream:' Actually, Game 5 was even worse | Mark Bradley __________________ We're not tough we're just crazy Terry Noonan in State of [...]

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First off, if you don’t like Atlanta, LEAVE! We can use the space on the expressways.

Second, if the athletes didn’t have to worry about their jersey’s tucked in their pants all the time, they could focus on the game. Sports is no place for your clothes being on “properly”. Set the boys loose so they can play like men, for pete’s sake. (I always hate this when I’m watching sports. And take a look at the photo with this article; 3 of the 4 guys are fixing their clothes.)

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Man we miss Sekou….See ya Woodson aka Mr Potato Head Rick please dont Let Woodson Ruin Teague like he did Acie Law and Salim.. End his Tenure Now.. That Best play was when Mo had the ball and had to blow a timeout because everyone was just watching him instead of trying to get open for a pass lol… Bring in Avery or someone with a Brain..Im tired of the Arm Folding and Mouth open look of Woodson..You think we could add Bosh somehow this offseason and keep Joe?

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It’s sort of odd to me with under a minute left in a game down 6 that this team dribbles around and makes 5 passes instead of passing to someone with a good look quickly squaring up and shooting… but… that would require mentally… being in the game… I guess.

I thought Jamal Crawford could create his own shot? Man is he throwing bricks.

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Atlanta teams have 3 that need to go. Bobby Cox & staff, Woody, and Paul Hewitt. Fire all three !!!!!!

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GTSteve/Just Being Real/bugman/Grove- all sounds like we’re local natives of this fine city but have been mentally tortured for years, i mean YEARS, of sub-par performances from all our Major/College Teams. My buddies constantly tease about how this city is cursed and maybe Sherman should make another march to the sea and just destroy everything and rebuild it. Thoughts??

BTW- hello james westfall- missing you…hate riding solo

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First of all, that performance last night made me throw up. If I was the GM I wouldn’t allow Mike Woodson into the arena for Game 6 because he is incompetant. The Hawks played like underdogs last night. They were skittish, undisciplined, unfocused, most importantly played NOT TO LOSE in the 4th. It was BEYOND pathetic, to see GROWN men who make MILLIONS to play a simple game look so ill-prepared to deal with adversity. They have no heart and absolutely NO CHANCE at winning this series. I don’t know with certainty that Mike Woodson is the sole problem with this team but I do know with ABSOLUTE certainty that he is NOT a leader of men.

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Is it sad that as a Hawks fan part of me hopes they will lose just so it’s 100% Woodson leaves?

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The hawks are still young–it will take another year or two to get used to each other, get some experience, etc. to be able step up in these big games.

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Man, Atlanta has the worse fans in the nation. So they had a bad game in which they blew it big time, but this is a best of 7 series. How about we let them lose the series 1rst before we ask for Mike Woodsons head and trade JJ. If they are truly a good team, they will prove it by winning game 6 and 7 even thought this should have been a 4 or 5 game series to begin with.

Im not a Woodson backer since he lets his players rot and not develop: examples- Ace Law, Jeff Teague, Salim Stodamire, and what was the point of signing a good player like Joe Smith to bench him all the time.

As painful as it was to watch last night game, let the series play out before we pass full judgment.

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To people writing in here that Atlanta is cursed, that is not the case. Atlanta sports just have poor management accross the board…not just with braves or hawks, but even with the falcons. What have the falcons really done with Mr. Blank? Oh yeah, he drafted Vick, which at the time seemed alright (even though I cringed when he did) but management has just been bad here for alot of years. And it is funny to watch the bandwagon fans of Atlanta cry like this.

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J. All this passion in this blog and you say bandwagon?

You think these are bandwagon people? Bandwagon people aren’t around.

Whose bandwagon would they jump on?

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The Hawks need to move back to St. Louis.

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J you don’t know your sports, Arthur Blank did not draft Vick, he inherited Vick. He bought the team and Vick was already on it. Also, I am not a Band wagon fan i am disappointed. I don’t have alot of expendable cash but, I have went to a few Hawks games this year. I have spent my hard earned money in supporting this team by going to games at the arena since 1999 after I moved to Atlanta. The most dissappointing thing about this year we have a better team even if the Bucks were at full strength, but 2 of their best players are out and we are still being embarassed. This is alomost as dissapointing as the year the Hawks traded Nique for Danny Manning during the best season in the franchise history. The year they had a legit shot at the NBA championship.

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The hawks style of play is like Mark Bradleys writing: boring, pedestrian, and over-rated. buh bye hawks, you don´t stand a chance in game 6 at the rocking Bradley Center. You haven´t seen a crowd like this in a long time because atlanta fans stink. FEAR THE DEER.

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I was just thinking the other day about that playoff loss in 1989, and how it was also to an inferior Bucks team. Those Hawks had ‘Nique, Moses Malone, Reggie Theus and Doc Rivers. Perhaps the worst thing about that playoff loss was the only Hawk who played over his head in the series was Koncak, who was then rewarded with that absurd contract.

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hawks are done. Stick a fork in them. Kinda funny however, maybe the ASG will pay a little more attention to the thrashers now… just saying…..

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Milwaukee fan coming here in peace.

1. Very few Milwaukee fans are douches like Nathan B. Sorry for that.
2. I would kill for the Braves to be back in Milwaukee so we can have our ‘57 World Series title back. It’d be nice to have one in my lifetime. (The Hawks also came from Milwaukee – I’m sure everyone here knows that though)
3. I work at the Bradley Center and could tell the HUGE difference in energy in the buildings. The BC was deafening. Watching the game on TV yesterday, it didn’t seem like ATL fans got into it that much. The Bucks have fed on the home energy the entire year. (Game 6 is a complete sellout with no single seats available)
4. I’m just happy to make the playoffs. Especially when we were picked to finish second last in the entire NBA.

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Typical performance. Seriously, if you are a Hawks fan, could you not call it? This team has gotten by on talent and nothing else this year. Woodson has taken this team as far as it will ever go. Thanks coach for getting us 50+ wins but it means nothing if you don’t make a run in the 2nd round. We will lose JJ next season and be mediocre again. This was our chance. I know it’s not over but the road just got REALLY bumpy!

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Charles Barkley called it at half time of the TNT broadcast. “The Hawks are soft. You can’t fake physicality. You either are or you aren’t.” Our team doesn’t have the chemistry, the coaching or the style of players to go much further. They can win 50 games. That’s great. But when it really matters, they are just soft. No wonder our fans won’t sell out for them. We know it too.

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I would be nice to see the city get behind a franchise, I went to game one and there were plenty of empty seats.. Bradley Center has been packed out and in atlanta nothing. They are practically giving tickets away at Philips….We need a new coach that shows he knows what he is doing and a superstar that will make the fans come out again…

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I’m also a Bucks fan and agree with “upofan’s” comments (especially the Braves statement… Nobody in Wisconsin saw the Bucks’ successful season coming. Yes, the Bradley Center is rocking and will be deafening tomorrow night. Like “upofan” said, the Bucks are feeding off the energy of their raucous crowd. No matter what happens, this has been a very satisfying season. GM John Hammond and Coach Skiles will only make this team better in the future… I’m confident that they have a solid game plan.

That said, I also see a lot of upside with the Hawks. You’ve got a nice bunch of talented young guys. And I also think Mike Woodson has done a fine job with the team. All they need is a fan-base that sticks with them through thick ‘n thin. The foundation is definitely there, now comes the critical moves in the off-season. I’d think you’d want to build upon the talent that’s already in-house rather than trying to disrupt it and “reinvent the wheel.”

In any case, whether the series winner is the Bucks or the Hawks, I just hope they can give Orlando a run for their money. Again, just good, old-fashioned, competitive basketball.

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Excuse me I gotta go take a HAWK.

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This series isn’t done. The Hawks can still prove they are a great team.

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I gave up on the Hawks when they traded Dominique Wilkins near the end of the franchise’s best season ever. It was one of the best decisions I’ve made. Too bad for all you others out there that actually care about the Hawks and the NBA. You’ve been wasting your time for the last 20 years. Stop now, before you lose another 20.

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The Hawks are the type of team I wouldn’t want my kids to watch. They give inconsistent effort and make bad decisions when the game is on the line. This is the worst combination of lazy, arrogant, uncoachable players we’ve assembled. I would prefer a team with less talent but more will.

Everyone in the arena knew Josh Smith was going to take that quick 3-pointer near the end of the game. That was a bad decision.

And did you see how every player (except maybe Marvin Williams) kept looking at the screen during the timeout? Coach Woodson was trying to call the next play but the players were half-listening. They were all too busy watching the Horford replay. That is unacceptable.

If I did that while my boss was giving me instructions, there’s no way I’d have a job.

I hope the Hawks get blown out in Game 6, so they have some motivation for next year.

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Guys have some damn confidence!!!! Every damn one of you are acting like it’s already over!! I certainly can understand the pessimists but how many if you played sports?! If there is one thing I can tell you about sports is that it’s not over till it’s over!! Never give up!!! I have his feeling that we are going to win tomorrow!! I know it sounds crazy seeing as how we played so terrible the last three games but I truly feel that we are coming back strong with our backs against the wall!!! I had a bad feeling after game 2 because of the long layoff and the draft so everybody basicly forgot about us playing!! Including the hawks!!! Now they know it’s win or go home and if you seriously think for one second that the bucks are better than us then you need to be in mental hospital!! There is no way!!! And I mean NO way we lose!!!!! Have some fu***** heart and realize that our talent will prevail tomorrow!! Mark my words!!! Go get your tickets for game 7!!!! P.s. I don’t need any responses about how we have no offense and we have no coach or bibby sucks or joe johnsons not a leader or any other bandwagon nonsense! And it is bandwagon if when were good your all happy and when we lose it’s we suck. Now I’m tired of all this negative attitude!!!! Are you with me!!!

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The Cylde Drexler-led Portland Trailblazer teams of the late 80’s and early 90’s had a reputation of not playing smart basketball in tight games (Magic Johnson). I think the hawks has that reputation now, because they certainly play like it.

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31,000 voices in unison are saying the same thing: The Hawks Suck; They’re soft as banana pudding; They’re brainless; They’re an absolute embarassment to this city. And how much money do THE TICKET-PAYING FANS pay these bozos? Good thing I don’t go to the games, because if I did, I’d feel as if I got myself suckered out of $$$ by a three-card monte game!

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Look at the bright side…at least we are talking about the Hawks…I forgot we had an NBA team until recently

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I remember the Celtics arguing amongst themselves and making catcalls in the direction of the ref, while Red Auerbach was instructing them on what to do in the last minute of the game. They slumped back onto the court, Siegfried snarling at Havlicek, Sam Jones looking up in the crowd, disinterestedly, and the 76ers Hal Greer stole the inbounds pass to cement the Philadelphia win… Oh wait, that was my dream. Because the Celtics trusted each man to do his job as Auerbach drew it up. What we see as softness is distrust, doubt and uncertainty up and down the organization.

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Are the people of Milwaukee to dumb to start there own board or something?

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It has been said play the GAME not the opponent ,box out ,move your feet and play defense, pass to the open man.have some HEART men.Woodson has lost his team and his J.O.B.

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I’ve become that guy from the movie Real Genius, who breaks down after hours of studying. He just gets up from his chair, looks around at everyone, throws up his hands, and just starts screaming: “AAAGGGHHH! AAAAGGGHHHH!!!” and just one more time for good measure, to emphasize his point: “AAAGGGGHH!!!”

Words fail. The incredulous screaming is all I have left.

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Me and Bruce Benedict had it crackin’ back at good ‘ol Fulton County Stadium. Good times…..Good times….

Hawks in 7.

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You want a great fund-raising event? Line up the Hawks and let people buy real darts to throw at them. You get an extra free dart if you can miss the tattoos.

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two hundred and thirty-first!!!!

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Ahhhh Losersville, back in its rightful place. All is right with the world. Thank the lord for the Georgia Bulldawgs and some people wonder why Atlanta is a college sports town. Now you know, you have been living an illusion. Eat your heart out Cubs fans.

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Fear the Dear!

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ATTENTION HAWK FANS…. get this through your thick bandwagon jumpin’ empty skulls…. THE HAWKS HAVE NOT YET BEEN ELIMINATED. Duh. I’m the biggest Bucks fan alive, but I’m a realist. If the Hawks win tonight… it’s game 7 in ATL. HELLO…. McFly… anyone home? I have never in my entire life of watching sports (48 years) have I seen an entire city completely bail on a team that still has a decent shot of winning a playoff series. But, maybe it’s something in the south that you have no loyalty (except to General Lee), and it’s rubbed off on all your players as well. There’s no unity, no teamwork, no heart, no self-blame and worse of all… no respect for the Bucks. I read nothing but sour grapes, and a bunch of whiners that sound like six year old school girls including Mark Bradley in his less then professional column. Pure sour grapes and whining.
From a Buck’s fans perspective, the Bucks are an absolute treat to watch. Not just this series but all season. Y’all speak of the Bucks being “an inferior team”. I completely disagree. I think the Bucks are a Superior “TEAM”. You go through the line-up position by position and not many would disagree that the Hawk player have the edge in talent. However, you put them on the court and that edge in talent is overcome by coaching, teamwork, leadership, selflessness, pure hustle and heart. All intangibles the Hawks seem to lack. So to say the Bucks are an inferior “team” is simple not true. And proof is in the pudding Mr. Bradley. Good luck from the friendly loyal north. Go Bucks!

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Draft Derrick Favors.

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See you in Milwaukee Mark!!!

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i,like many here, thought the hawks would win with around 4 min left and leading by nine.But the same old team manages to blow it again,same formula for the second half of the year. jennings was strutting his stuff at the fans while the players had run to the shower. won’t watch again, these guys are done. put a fork in the hawks,joe johnson and woodson, will be a different team next year. hello rebuilding years again….

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hey fan support, news flash, the fans only watch the game, the players are the ones who actually shoot the ball. support or empty house, these guys are supposed to be professionals. i emphasize supposed to be.

side note, what a pathetic call on zaza for the flagrant foul. it was about time someone laid jennings out. for me zaza, do it again in the next game. rock the little punk…

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To start beating teams in the playoffs, the hawk owners need to step up with big time cash and bring in some superstars like D-Wade. He will be wanting Lebron type money, but he’s worth it—$20-$30 mil per year, minimum plus tons of benefits and incentives. They better do something quick, or it will be more of the same next year.

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Don’t worry guys. I ate some extra bacon this morning, so I’ll be running even slower down the court today.

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