The Hawks unleash one of the epic collapses in Atlanta annals
Here's one picture. It's worth several hundred million words. (AJC photo by Jason Getz)
This was the Falcons blowing the lead against Danny White and Dallas in January 1981. This was Mark Wohlers hanging the slider to Jim Leyritz in October 1996. Only it wasn’t. It was worse.
Those opponents were top-class. The Hawks just blew a 13-point lead and probably a playoff series to Milwaukee, which is a No. 6 seed missing its All-Star center. They trail 3-2 in a series they led 2-0. They face elimination on the road, a place they’ve won once in 11 tries over the past three postseasons.
Yeah, theoretically they could still pull this out, but how can you win in the Bradley Center when you can’t hold a nine-point lead inside the final four minutes with the series lead on the line? How can you put this colossal choke — I hate that word, but it applies here — behind you?
Up nine, and here’s what happened: Josh Smith missed a dunk by hitting the ball on the underside of the backboard; Jamal Crawford short-armed a layup, the first of his five misses down the stretch; the Hawks watched as Ersan Ilyasova grabbed every loose ball and Joe Johnson fouled out on a charge. Nine points up with 3:55 left, the Hawks saw the lead disappear in 116 seconds.
I say again: One hundred sixteen seconds.
There are no excuses for this game, this series. The team with the better players is the one with one foot out the exit door. The Bucks have two chances to win once. The Hawks are down to their final shot.
“We had control of the game,” Mike Woodson said. “We let it get away.”
Then this: “It’s still a seven-game series. We’re going to see what we’re made of.”
We may already have seen it. We may have seen a team of splendid resources hit its ceiling. The Hawks win because they’re talented, but talent hasn’t been enough against a smarter and more dogged opponent. If anything, talent has undone itself. The Hawks have played into the Bucks’ hands for three games now, and there seems no end in sight. The Bucks are now believers; the Hawks really aren’t sure what they are anymore.
“All winning basketball plays,” Woodson said of the two offensive rebounds claimed by Ilyasova that spawned five immense points, the final three coming on a corner trey by Carlos Delfino that put the Bucks ahead by four. But why can’t Woodson’s men make those plays? Why does everything always come down to Joe Johnson, and why, with Iso-Joe rendered inoperative this crucial night, did nobody have a clue? (Unless hoisting a jump shot is having a clue.) This isn’t supposed to be a one-man team, but right now it’s not playing like a team at all.
Said Milwaukee’s splendid Brandon Jennings: “When Joe Johnson went out of the game, I thought we had a chance.”
Nine points up, four minutes left. Four minutes from a 3-2 series lead. Four minutes that will live in infamy on the long list of Atlanta sports collapses. Four minutes that could lead to the dismantling of this roster and perhaps the dismissal of this coach. Four unbelievable minutes.
Really, though, how unbelievable were they? The Hawks blew a fat lead here against Dallas, nearly blew one against Orlando last month. They’re known as the team that can fall to pieces if you keep applying pressure, and on this wretched night they lived down to that sorry reputation. They wasted a lead that should have been safe and are positioned to lose a series that should already have been won.
Technically the Hawks haven’t yet been eliminated. But it sure feels that way.
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D Hawks
April 28th, 2010
11:21 pm
I have seen epic losses in the 44 year history of Atlanta pro sports, but this is one of the worst. No way you can max out Joe Johnson and give Woody a multi-year deal after this one.
PlusSizeModel
April 28th, 2010
11:25 pm
Third.
JeJe
April 28th, 2010
11:26 pm
FIRE WOODY
82-79
clean up your yard
April 28th, 2010
11:26 pm
thirty-ninth
JeJe
April 28th, 2010
11:26 pm
THE ASG IS TOO POOR TO RESIGN JOE SO THEY ARE SELLING A VALUABLE 1ST RDER SO THEY CAN RESIGN A PLAYER WHO IS NOT EVEN A SUPERSTAR AND WHO WILL EAT UP CAP SPACE LOLOLOL
PlusSizeModel
April 28th, 2010
11:26 pm
I just saw the photo in the last blog of Joe Johnson shooting from the bench pre-game. I guess he knew he would end up there, but someone needs to tell him he can’t shoot from there during the game.
Keith B
April 28th, 2010
11:27 pm
the Bucks beating the Hawks and causing these ATL losses and they still get little to no credit for it
i’ll take the wins
wxwax
April 28th, 2010
11:28 pm
Tough loss.
If they lose this series, I shall, for the first time, sympathize with the Woody haters.
But they still have a chance to prove they have composure and balls.
Well coached
April 28th, 2010
11:28 pm
How bad is this loss? This is as bad a loss as a guy losing his wedding ring in his girlfriend’s bedroom.
On YouTube.
Turtsnap
April 28th, 2010
11:29 pm
Unfortunately, Atlanta sports has returned to the cesspool of Losersville again!
calico
April 28th, 2010
11:29 pm
Win or lose this series fire Mike Woodson please
Garrett Harper
April 28th, 2010
11:29 pm
I think that if the hawks do end up losing this series, there is no choice…. you have to fire coach woodson…. i love the guy but this story is getting old!
clean up your yard
April 28th, 2010
11:30 pm
I have a question- down by one and Joe Johnson fouls out. The next time down Josh Smith jacks up a brick for a three quickly and then the Bucks shortly convert a three and it’s a 4 point game and the game is history. Why would Josh Smith jack up a terrible three pointer when you are down by one and Johnson just fouled out? Please?
JeJe
April 28th, 2010
11:30 pm
FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY FIRE WOODY
calico
April 28th, 2010
11:31 pm
Avery Johnson needs 2 b the coach
D Hawks
April 28th, 2010
11:32 pm
It takes more than talent to be successful in the playoffs. It takes intelligence under pressure, and a desire to win every possession. The Hawks lack both. I don’t think the coaching staff’s message is getting through, and I think they’ve hit a threshold. Winning a lot at home is nice, but what makes anyone think that this team will get appreciably better on the road with it’s current leadership?
PlusSizeModel
April 28th, 2010
11:32 pm
“Why would Josh Smith jack up a terrible three pointer…”
Are you really surprised? J. Smith is one of the dumbest players ever. This is nothing new with him. You knew when he sank that long one with over four minutes left that the follow up idiotic shot was coming, we’ve seen it 100 times.
Beone
April 28th, 2010
11:32 pm
Pathetic = Woodson !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cstin
April 28th, 2010
11:33 pm
WOW! The players and coaches complain about the fans supporting other teams when they come to town! This is why! This team coaches, and ownership has no backbone! There is no way they should be down 3-2 to the BUCKS!
Joe Johnson
April 28th, 2010
11:33 pm
You wrote “What if the Hawks lose to the Bucks” this morning, why are you complaining on what you are expecting? Hawks do not have a center their owner did not want to get one so these guys have maxed out on their effort. Hawks are not that good. They just work hard and now they are tired. When people work hard, they do get tired, understand?
Worm
April 28th, 2010
11:33 pm
Insert I hate the NBA here..Woodson should be fired before the next game..Hawks can’t play unless they’re Running..Their offense is PAINFUL to watch.
jose
April 28th, 2010
11:33 pm
Like I predicted, we may not make it to 2nd round. We’ve got the talent but we can’t use it. INCONSISTENT, INCONSISTENT, INCONSISTENT
sam
April 28th, 2010
11:34 pm
With the game on the line late, the Hawks were utterly lost on offense. It looked like playground basketball, and I’ve watched better quality at Grant Park. I commend Mike Woodson on the work he’s done to get the Hawks to this point, but he just lost his job tonight. I have never seen a team that looked as leaderless as the Hawks did tonight, in a game they had every opportunity to win. Pathetic.
Ed
April 28th, 2010
11:34 pm
Brutal, Brutal, Brutal. Don’t know how Hawks fans put up with it…
Archie
April 28th, 2010
11:35 pm
Hawks are soft. It’s that simple. It’s the worst you can say about a team. When things are going well, they can score easy baskets better than anybody. When things aren’t going well, they can’t get tough baskets. When a team is soft, the coach is the one responsible. Either Woodson’s message is to spot up low percentage jumpers in crunch time (which I doubt), or his message simply isn’t getting through. My guess is the second option. I like Woodson, I think he’s a good coach, but he simply isn’t getting the players to respond.
Larry
April 28th, 2010
11:35 pm
Wonder how may of us Season Ticket holders are going to continue on our 8-month payment plan now? I have some very serious doubts. $14K is a ton of $$ for baseline courtside seats with this type of basketball product being put before us. I saw THREE THINGS tonight: 1. Woody cannot manage a playoff game that is close, he will blow it every time; 2. Joe Johnson is a great player but for three years now, he is NOT the BIG TIME $$ PLAYER you need in the playoffs…WAY too soft and his jewels are just not big enough and 3. THis team has no COLLECTIVE HEART and SOUL about them and that comes from the Coach, Superstar on down. Just a bunch of over self absored whiners. Give me a Chuck Daily type coach and a DWade type Superstar and this team with ALL that talent becomes a BEAST!
oldmikey
April 28th, 2010
11:36 pm
Effort with no smarts. Not Woody’s fault. Can’t coach stupid.
Too Harsh?
April 28th, 2010
11:36 pm
Woodson strikes me as a coach with a low basketball IQ, his team doesn’t play smart consistently.
Brett
April 28th, 2010
11:36 pm
we didn’t just lose a 9-pt lead. we DID NOT SCORE from 4 minutes left to 19 seconds left.
Blow up the team-- start with the coach
April 28th, 2010
11:37 pm
This team and coach are obviously too stupid to be a real contender. Resigning JJ would keep them from ever taking that next step. Time to reshuffle the deck- we need a real leader (not JJ), a real center (Al is a PF, not C), and a coach that knows more about offense than just isolation plays and more about defense than to leave his bigs defending the fastest player in the league on the perimeter.
UGA
April 28th, 2010
11:37 pm
Josh Smith is the problem PERIOD!!
Brian
April 28th, 2010
11:37 pm
I have been one of the staunchest Woody supporters this entire season.
The numbers speak for themselves when you look at our record over the last 5 seasons.
But after 5 games, the Hawks still don’t know how to defend the Bucks’ pick-and-roll, or how to quickly go to your backup guy when option #1 is well-covered. Those are coaching issues, not player issues. Add that to our inexcusable road record over the past few seasons (post-season or not), and I have to admit that maybe we should consider shopping for a new coach.
@ReanuKeeves
April 28th, 2010
11:38 pm
It’s just such a damn shame to hand over games to a team with such lesser talent. I think this is a perfect storm of poor coaching, poor resolve, and poor execution.
The series is over, and Milwaukee will get beat in four straight by an avg of 15 points. If we knew how to stick w/ a winning game plan (throw the ball into the paint–play defense) this wouldn’t be an issue.
Instead we got a humiliating first-round exit at the hands of a one-man squad–and that one man is a ROOKIE. Pitiful, shameful, beyond unacceptable.
A.W.
April 28th, 2010
11:38 pm
YES! FIRE WOODY! PPPLLEEEASSEEE!
oh yeah,
and the hawks are done.
ad one more “oh yeah”
bye bye Joe Johnson and Mike Woodson.
HEY! New York might not be so bad for Joe!
Avery
April 28th, 2010
11:38 pm
I really, really hate blaming officials for anything, but that B.S. charge on Johnson cost us the game. It fouled him out, took the crowd out of it, game over.
Keep your whistle in your pocket on an obvious flop with less than two minutes left.
The Boss
April 28th, 2010
11:38 pm
Seriously can anyone remember a worse NBA offence?
Disgraceful!
Angus
April 28th, 2010
11:39 pm
Well it was fun while it lasted (going from 13 to 53 wins).
Exit Woody, exit JJ, back to 30 wins.
bg3003
April 28th, 2010
11:39 pm
hawks have no leadership. how many times does a NBA COACH need to see the same screen and switch play before he relizes that the switch does not work? all last game they switched al onto jennings and that is a mismatch
GoBuckYourself
April 28th, 2010
11:39 pm
Someone wrote “the Hawks do not have a center” as one of the excuses for losing? Do the Bucks have a center? Oh yeah, he has one arm and is in a suit for the rest of the year.
SD Dawg
April 28th, 2010
11:39 pm
This team has been flawed for years. They have certainly gotten better over the years, but the same flaws continue to come up. I am a little surprised we have not been able to dispatch of the Bucks. But there was no way this team was going any further beyond this year.
Hate to say it, but they need to let Joe and Woody go. There is NO WAY this team, as it currently is, EVER competes for a championship. It’s just not there.
Plano
April 28th, 2010
11:40 pm
un- “leased”? is that what you meant (meaning something that hasn’t been leased)? how about un”leashed”, that would be English meaning unrestrained, to let loose. yo, just sayin, whatever
Iblameurparents
April 28th, 2010
11:40 pm
This team can win two game in a row against the Bucks!! However the reality is Woody has taken this group as far as he can take them. The gig is up!! Poor game management in play selection ( virtually no plays were run) defensive adjustments and personnel. No way you give this game away. The gig is up!
cole
April 28th, 2010
11:41 pm
I agree totally!!! That was a horrible display of basketball. I have followed this team through some awful years. But I have never witnessed a more gutless performance than what i saw tonight. Where do I begin.. We have an extremely atheletic team but we play as if we have a dominating 7 footer who could be unstoppable in a half court game!!! I am sooo freakin frustrated right now!!!
sm02180n
April 28th, 2010
11:41 pm
I grew up in MKE and moved to ATL two years ago. I’m still a Bucks fan. Some of the comments posted by Bucks fans on this site have been ridiculous. The vast majority of Bucks fans know what Hawks fans are feeling right now… we’ve had our share of bad breaks over the years. Most of us upper midwesterners take great pride in our friendliness and respect for others. That being said, the series isn’t over yet. And even if the Bucks win, the Hawks are young and talented. Future looks bright!
Bucks Pat
April 28th, 2010
11:42 pm
That Brandon Jennings kid plays like a seasoned veteran. Dang…
cstin
April 28th, 2010
11:42 pm
If you want to know what it takes to win, look at the Lakers and Boston! Winning starts with compontent leaders at the top who are willing to do what it takes to put a CHAMPIONSHIP product on the floor. The ASG are a bunch of idiots!
Joe Johnson
April 28th, 2010
11:42 pm
If we don’t win on Friday, we will still have a team next season so come and see us play, OK?
houstondawg
April 28th, 2010
11:42 pm
the other Van Gundy Coach is available, hurry before the sale ends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JON
April 28th, 2010
11:42 pm
SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY IS Jeff Teague still sitting on the bench at this very moment……it blows my mind that our quickest player is catching dust by sitting on the sidelines….Teague can keep up with Jennings…bring bibby on the bench and let tegue start………it just goes to show you that coaching is half the battle
A-ille Ranger
April 28th, 2010
11:43 pm
This team has reached it’s potential with the players and coaches it has.Woody sounded like Jerry Glanville shrugging off the pickering by players.
Brian
April 28th, 2010
11:43 pm
My thoughts on shuffling the deck:
Trade up for a new coach.
Move Al Horford to forward, and either move Marvin to backup and trade Joe Smith, or else trade Marvin.
Trade Moe Evans and (unfortunately) Joe Johnson. Make Jamal Crawford a starting guard.
Acquire a new backup guard and (with the Joe money now available) sign a superstar center (I, for one, would live to see Chris Bosh with the Hawks).
oldmikey
April 28th, 2010
11:43 pm
JeJe needs a life
Bat Masterson
April 28th, 2010
11:43 pm
Jeez, what a mess. I would hate to be the one to make the call on Woodson and Joe J. . It’s tempting to say they have hit their ceiling, but damn, I remember Leeman Bennett and the Falcons.
eagle
April 28th, 2010
11:43 pm
Why do you all care? Players are grossly overpaid, tix too expensive etc… College sports is where its at. Have not been to hawks game in over 20 years. ATL native…
ATLFAN
April 28th, 2010
11:44 pm
Amazing how Joe deserved max money the last game. The bucks made it single digits when Joe was one the bench….
sam
April 28th, 2010
11:44 pm
With the game on the line late, the Hawks looked utterly lost. I have never seen a playoff team on it’s home floor look as leaderless as the Hawks did tonight. Their offense really looked like something off a playground, and I’ve seen better quality at Grant Park.
I have to commend Mike Woodson on the work he has done to get the Hawks to this point, b/c they truly have gotten better over the last 2-3 years, but he just lost his job tonight. Pathetic.
MitchC
April 28th, 2010
11:44 pm
I didn’t see the game, Mark. I was too busy watching the Braves get their butts kicked again.
When I saw the final score of the Hawk game tonight, I was thinking about Wohlers to Leryitz. Gosh, what an awful memory that was.
Honestly, I think the Hawks are finished. Tonight was a must win. You don’t blow a nine point lead at home in the playoffs, in a series in which you’ve already blown a 2-0 series lead. Good teams fight it through, and win those games.
I hate to say: I think the Hawks season will end in Milwaukee in Game Six. Then, this team has the summer to figure out what to do. I said earlier today that I think Woodson should be back next year, because this team has improved in the regular season every year under him. As for what to do personnel wise to get this team to the next level, I’m not really sure what to say.
TruthSeeker
April 28th, 2010
11:44 pm
If you win 34 games at home during the regular season, there’s no reason you shouldn’t win at least 26 or 27 on the road. The massive discrepancy between the Hawks’ record at home and on the road was a very troubling sign about the mental toughness of this team. But tonight, in a must-win game, not even their home-court advantage could save them from choking under pressure.
The worst insult you can give a team is that they’re mentally weak. But all the evidence and everything we can see with our eyes says that the Hawks are a mentally weak team.
TheAntiMe
April 28th, 2010
11:46 pm
I guess instead of the usual, “We’ve got to figure it out on the road.”, that has become the patented quote from Hawks players after this kind of 4th quarter collapse, they can now shorten it to just, “We’ve got to figure it out.”
shawn
April 28th, 2010
11:46 pm
I agree with Jeje
Al Horford
April 28th, 2010
11:47 pm
Am I the only smart player on this team? The only one with any heart?
houstondawg
April 28th, 2010
11:47 pm
Everyone is 100% right, Woodson has been riding this talent for the last few years, when the young kids found out they could win it became habit forming. Come if you couldnt see how well coached this Bucks team is, then you must have been blind. Give Skiles credit, he has beaten a talented Hawks team with lesser talent, and exploited every weakness the Hawks had. Woodson never had a chance, don’t fault him, he is a good nba assist. coach, not a head coach whatsoever. Go Falcons this year!!
shawn
April 28th, 2010
11:47 pm
And let Joe johnson go and bring in Dwayne Wade
Greg
April 28th, 2010
11:48 pm
The silver lining: Woody is gone and the Bucks are the ones who will get dismembered by the Magic in round 2. Maybe they’ll keep one game close in Milwaukee. They’ve lost two games in Orlando by an average of 21 points per game.
But the Bucks will just be happy to be there…and still bitching about “not getting any credit” for the Hawks CHOKING all over themselves. The Bucks and the Hawks are the two worst teams in the playoffs….until a couple of days ago, I thought the Hawks were the 2nd worst team.
bj rufino
April 28th, 2010
11:48 pm
Because of this loss, I can’t work in office right now!! I feel very frustated! I need to go home. I can’t finish the task my boss asked me. I simply don’t have a reason to be happy today. But I still dob’t want to quit as a hawks’ fan.
Willie Martinez
April 28th, 2010
11:49 pm
Hey, what’s going on in this thread?
Harry the Hawk
April 28th, 2010
11:49 pm
Reminds me of the 1988 series when we had a chance to beat Boston to go to the conferene finals…oh well…Hawks suck!
Peter
April 28th, 2010
11:49 pm
This folks is a pure example of management……. or mismanagement…..
The Spirit Group is the issue….change ownership, change results !
Arthur Blank should own all three teams in this town, and at least then……… we would have the correct ownership model…..
Brian
April 28th, 2010
11:50 pm
And can someone send Marvin Williams the memo regarding which games the rest of the team decide to show up for? Because we sure could have used his effort tonight earlier in the series.
The Boss
April 28th, 2010
11:50 pm
The reality is we have blown leads in the 4th qtr all season long. Even the Knicks took us out at home 2x? This just happened on a bigger stage and worse time. But is it really so surprising once you step back and think about it? NO!
AG
April 28th, 2010
11:51 pm
Funny how you people hate certain players and put the blame on them. It is the coaching!!! The Bucks run the pick and roll over and over and over to perfection because we don’t make adjustments. Even if they miss a shot, our bigs have switched to their guards, and their big people are ready to grab offensive rebounds. Good point about the rookie Jennings, his jumper is pretty bad and his shooting percentage for the season was 37%. Yet, Skiles went with him and sat the veteran who is a great shooter because of his speed! Watched Teague that last game of the year, and what if he would have been given 30 minutes a game this season. Lastly, Lambeer would be a great coach here. He won championships as a player and two as a coach. He would coach this team for peanuts and he would bring his ATTITUDE to this team.
NoKidding
April 28th, 2010
11:51 pm
I had to laugh when the commentators on TNT said they spoke with Mike Woodson before the game about how they switch on the high screens which leave Josh and Al at the mercy of Brandon Jennings’ quickness. When asked, they said Woody stated “That’s what we do.” No kidding Woody (head shaking)…no kidding.
Peter
April 28th, 2010
11:51 pm
Hey Mark …….. What did you child say when you told them, they would win in Milwaukee ?
Greg
April 28th, 2010
11:51 pm
Dwayne Wade isn’t coming to Atlanta. No way, no how. If Chicago can’t get him to come to play alongside Rose, they will accept JJ as a consolation prize. And Johnson will thrive in that situation with a great PG who can create for himself and others…instead of Mike Bibby and Jeff Teague.
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JON
April 28th, 2010
11:52 pm
Woody’s offense = 1 man show on every trip down the court……..Question…you know how in the nfl can capture pictures of every play and then send down to the sidelines…….howcome the owners or the president of the hawks do the same for there team…..the answer is because every picture would look the same…..josh by the elbow looking like his about to fall asleep any minute now, bibby is behind the 3 pt line glaring off into a daze, Marvin in the corner with his hand on his hips, sayin “dang I know I can be the top scorer on the Seattle Sonics, Al is on the block thinking “Maybe if I stayed on the Fl gators basketball team we might have a chance in beating the hawks, and then there is Joe seeing money $ signs with every pick he gets from Bibby and Al…..and there folks would be the every play picture taken.
Dan
April 28th, 2010
11:52 pm
Give the Bucks some credit. They have a coach in Scott Skiles that instills passion and heart in his team that Woody never can. Fire Woody. Fear the Dear.
Are you serious?
April 28th, 2010
11:52 pm
Why can Hawks fans not fill an arena for a 53 win team? Why are they so quiet during a playoff game? How can you boo your team? Totally embarrassing. Watch on Friday night how loyal fans support their team, you can tell the Milwaukee fans love their team.
Dan
April 28th, 2010
11:52 pm
Deer*
Oh well
April 28th, 2010
11:53 pm
Oh well Hawks. They won’t advance to the 2nd rd, they have to win not one but TWO games.. With this team and it’s inept head coach that mole hill does indeed look like a mountain.
Peter
April 28th, 2010
11:53 pm
The Boss is CORRECT…….. the NY Knicks took us out 2 X at HOME !
We are weak willed….. why is that ?
Hawks (shocked) Fan
April 28th, 2010
11:53 pm
Couldn’t watch the game, was in class…apparently Marvin had a hot hand. Can someone explain Marvin only had 10 shots total, but was shooting 80%? Did they simply not pass him the ball in the 4th quarter trying to be the hero? Jamal was 4-18…did the 6th man award get to his head or something? I see Teague played 1 minute. 1 minute???? Does Woody not see what playing rookies can do? Not saying he’s on the level, but goodness if your main guys suck, play first round, super quick 19th pick. He couldn’t have done worse. Why did Zaza only play 8 minutes? He normally plays Zaza double digit minutes.
Its time for Woody to go. I really think we win in spite of him. The truth is revealing itself when you have a coach who can actually “coach” and motivate the team. Although should motivation be necessary in the playoffs?
Craig Ehlo
April 28th, 2010
11:53 pm
From Bill Simmons twitter…
sportsguy33
Harold Lederman just scored Round 5 of Skiles-Woodson a 10-7 round for Skiles. He now leads 50-42. Woodson’s corner holding a white towel.
yeah that sounds about right… go shave off your eyebrows again dumba$$
g2robo
April 28th, 2010
11:53 pm
To the few who are complaining about the charge, losers!!!!!!!!!!!! That didn’t cost you the game. No mental toughness on this team. When all your offense is one on one basketball you better hit your shots. Nice three try late by Smith. This team would be scarry if coached by Skiles, but then again maybe these guys just care about individual and not team.
Ha-Ha!
April 28th, 2010
11:54 pm
Pure stupidity! You guys pay hundreds of dollars for tickets to watch grown men play a child’s game…..as a result, they get paid millions more than they should…….and you whine and act like it actually affects your life one iota when they win or lose? Wow…….THIS is how professional sports survive from year to year……..we’re in one of the WORST recessions EVER…..and people continue to pour millions of dollars into the pockets of these people. OKAY, NOW I’m speechless! LOL!
Locke
April 28th, 2010
11:54 pm
This is what Billy Moron Knight left us with. A team that will always win enough to make the playoffs, but one not talented enough to do anything beyond that. If I saw him on the streets I would punch him in the face.
Nique's Revenge
April 28th, 2010
11:54 pm
cosign mark
Mark Bradley
April 28th, 2010
11:55 pm
Folks around the Hawks are stunned. I include myself in that number.
observor
April 28th, 2010
11:55 pm
Lets bring on Football, the only real sport that matters. I care about the NBA championship about as much as the NHL championship.
thwg
April 28th, 2010
11:56 pm
I got it – Paul Hewitt to the Hawks!
Eric
April 28th, 2010
11:56 pm
“I WANT WOODSON’S HEAD FOR THIS”, I love my Hawks but for years I have been telling everybody that this team wins on talent alone. Teams take on the personalty of their coach, take the Bucks for example tough hard nosed that’s Scott Skiles. Woody confused dazed passive, that’s the Hawks. Let Joe go to New York it’ll be to much pressure for him, and please don’t sign WOODY!!!
Mark Bradley
April 28th, 2010
11:57 pm
Peter, she said, “Why would you think so?”
Youth
April 28th, 2010
11:57 pm
The team is still real young–when they get some experience and 1 more superstar, they’ll be the dominant team in the NBA—book it!
thwg
April 28th, 2010
11:57 pm
I bet that was hard to watch Mark. Just doesn’t seem to be a go to guy on this team. Noone who wants the rock when it’s all on the line.
Scott
April 28th, 2010
11:58 pm
Wow you guys are worse than Cubs fans. Imagine if we had our best player.
Dr. Warren
April 28th, 2010
11:59 pm
When does the Falcon preseason start?
MaryM
April 28th, 2010
11:59 pm
Like I said before, not one of these bozo millionaires could play for an NBA team of twenty years ago. How did we get to such a point where gross mediocrity can be so lucrative.
Compared to these jerkoffs, Goldman Sachs gave real value.
Andre
April 28th, 2010
11:59 pm
We will win the next 2 games, they will be blowouts, the Bucks have over achieved yes, but it stops Friday.
Greg
April 29th, 2010
12:00 am
Are you serious?, you watched the game, didn’t you? The Hawks validated why fans shouldn’t show up to see this team. They are as flawed a 53 win team as there has ever been in the NBA. Losing to a scrappy, but crappy, Bucks team is proof enough of that.
As for Milwaukee packing the house, as Josh Smith said, what else is there to do in the armpit known as Milwaukee?
Hawks (shocked) Fan
April 29th, 2010
12:01 am
Mark, I really enjoy your articles and this isn’t a knock on you in any way; however, after this debacle tonight, I think a retraction is needed for the “Be careful what you wish for” Article. I really think Woodson has reached a ceiling with this team. The stubborn mentality of continuing to not have any type of offense, switching forwards on a lightning quick guard,and not playing your own version of a very quick guard is showing. The twitter post is correct: He is being thoroughly out-coached in every facet of the game.
doc
April 29th, 2010
12:01 am
look folks woody has a plan. it might be the seven year pan and we are only in year 5. come on folks give him a break. dont you know rookies cant play and shouldnt only learning the game from the sidelines for a year or two. isnt it the way woody learned the game therefore it must be the right way even if you only keep a guy for four years max and are paying him good money to watch and learn.
yup pretty cynical.
houstondawg
April 29th, 2010
12:01 am
Youth, To win a championship, you still need a above average coach. thats why Cleveland hasn;t won one yet. ex. Stan Van gundy a above average coach, if her were coaching cleveland, Lebron would be wearing a NBA title ring by now.
MaryM
April 29th, 2010
12:01 am
It does make me wonder why people keep paying big bucks to watch these bozos.
Eric
April 29th, 2010
12:02 am
Joe said after game 4 that the Hawks “had no heart”, do you think he threw the game tonight???
KimZ's Package
April 29th, 2010
12:02 am
Come on MARK B you know that was funny. Why did you deleat it? Did if make you have too many bad mental pictures in your ind? AHHAHAHHA
Peter
April 29th, 2010
12:02 am
Yes Mark……. why would you think so, and after tonight………………did she see something in a child’s eye’s we were not capable of seeing ?
hawks hawk
April 29th, 2010
12:02 am
Woody sucks, but aint nothing new. Late in the game, he kept the ball in Joe’s hand way too much, took everybody out of rhythm and when he fouled out, i knew that was it. Of all people he put slow footed Mike Bibby in the game to play DEFENSE! WOW. Well we have Friday to look forward too, we shall see
MitchC
April 29th, 2010
12:02 am
Mark, when Wohlers hung the slider to Leyritz in 1996, that was the worst moment of my sports life. I’d say that one felt worse, because the Braves had won the first two games in New York in blowout fashion in the 96 WS, and then lost the three straight at home.
I admit that I didnt see much of tonight’s game. I was too busy channel surfing, and watching the Braves get their butts kicked again. I will say that to blow a 2-0 series lead, and to lose Game Five at home, is extremely disheartening.
Wasn’t it a certain Mr Bradley, I recall, that predicted the Hawks would make a happy meal out of the Bucks in five games? I know you’re not a psychic, or a fortune teller, but, knowing the NBA playoffs, and playoffs in general like I do, I had a feeling that prediction would be wrong, Mark.
Personally, I think the Hawks are done. Milwaukee had to be feeling a lot of confidence after winning the two games in Milwaukee. While the Lakers lost two in a row to the Thunder after winning two in LA, at least the Lakers redeemed themselves by smashing OKC in Game Five in LA. I will be shocked if the Lakers dont pull that series out, even if it goes to a 7th game.
I know the old Yogi Berra saying of “It’s not over til its over”, but, I will be shocked if the Hawks pull this series out.
My bet, it ends in Game Six. The way the Hawks are playing now, I dont even think they have enough fight in them, to push it to a deciding Game Seven in Atlanta
You still live in Milwaukee
April 29th, 2010
12:04 am
All you “Deer” fans on this blog. You live in friken Milwaukee!
I’m glad we have provided something for you to do and be happy about.
Enjoy…while it last because after this guess what? You STILL live in Milwaukee !
Mike Woodson is an idiot!!
April 29th, 2010
12:04 am
It is WAY PAST TIME FOR WOODSON TO BE FIRED!! Atlanta is to big of a city to continue to settle for a trip to the playoffs and nothing more. Mark, I challenge you and the other writers to FINALLY admit that it is TIME for Woodson to GO! I declare my 2yr old niece can coach better than him. The Hawks are an unoverachieving team with an underachieving coach. Give this team to Byron Scott, Avery Johnson, Flip Saunders, or anyone with any basketball IQ and I bet you the team will go further than they ever could with that jerk we have now. Just for the fact that idiot once said “Joe Johnson is the team” and “We want to be .500 on the road” should have gotten his behind fired. Mark, I guarantee you and I could not tell our bosses that we only want to do half our work and still keep our jobs. If you can, kudo’s to you, but I don’t think so. Woodson, GOODBYE!!!
col foot
April 29th, 2010
12:04 am
sweet baby sweet!!!
ATLvixen
April 29th, 2010
12:04 am
Greg: Why do you call Milwaukee an armpit? I visited a relative there the last 3 summers and I have nothing but good things to say about it.
#21=Top50,1stBallot
April 29th, 2010
12:04 am
It’s inevitable, passions are high, but sobering thoughts:
1. The series is not over
2. (read #1 again)
3. Woody shall be promptly shown the door (hence no extension previously)
4. We DO have to make a run at re-signing Joe, we have no alternative. Let’s be honest, we’re pot committed (maybe a sign-trade but for whom).
5. (read #1)
JeJe
April 29th, 2010
12:04 am
WHY CAN JAMAL NOT GET IT GOING?
BirdDawg
April 29th, 2010
12:04 am
A truly disgraceful performance. Anyone that still wants Woody on the sidelines after watching this should kill themselves. This has to be, without a doubt, the most poorly coached, undisciplined team in the playoffs, perhaps the league. Mark is right, this team wins because of talent and talent alone because they’ve got no direction, heart or mental toughness. Did anyone notice the way the ENTIRE team ignored Woody while they were checking on Al’s three pointer? Did anyone notice how Woody did NOTHING to command their attention? Any surprise that out of that stoppage, they had no play, no design drawn up to get a stop and a good look at a decent shot. Speaking of Al, all the people that dog him and Marvin should kiss their @$$E$ after this game because they were the only two Hawks that responded as if they really wanted it, the only two providing consistent production in the game and instead of feeding them until the hot hand ran out, they ignore them so Joe can dribble around the court and Jamal can continue to jack up bad shots. Unbelievable!!! Woody has lost this team, if he ever had them to begin with. The experiment should finally be over. Time to get a real NBA coach in to make good use of this talent.
Billy Knight
April 29th, 2010
12:05 am
Many of you don’t know, but back in Mike and my Indiana days, we both were janitors. You see, we was poor back then and that’s how we became friends.
Suckers.
EnlightenMe
April 29th, 2010
12:06 am
It kills me how no one on the Hawks but Horford looks mad when we are playing bad. Everyone else has the “if we lose this one then we’ll get em next time” look on their faces. Somebody please play angry. I heard Charles Oakley was at the game tonight. He probably came for the comedy a.k.a. Atlanta’s defense. Maybe our Hawks should focus on execution and discipline instead of “The Highlight Factory.” We had plenty of highlights tonight except for the one that counts, the scoreboard.
Greg
April 29th, 2010
12:07 am
Bucks 15 of 18 from the FT line in the 4th quarter and the Hawks 0 for 0. How does that happen when the Hawks are up 8 going into the quarter?
KimZ's Package
April 29th, 2010
12:08 am
Want to see the HAWKS nplay like it matters? Put all their cash money bonuses on a pallet under the basket to look at all game long. If they don’t win the fans get the money. I bet they will work harder to win than an Illegal Mexican picking tobacco to stay in the US.
Barbarainlovewithjoe
April 29th, 2010
12:09 am
The Hawks are going to win the next 2. Relax. Need faith. Also, I’ve got to agree w ATLvixen. Milwaukee was a lot of fun… especially in the summer.
steve smith
April 29th, 2010
12:09 am
I just called the box office at Phillips and they said that if you bring your ticket stud down to the box office tomorrow between 9am-12pm you can get a full refund from last nights game 5….hurry, limited promotion!!
Whopper Dawg
April 29th, 2010
12:10 am
The loss to Dallas was bigger, much bigger, it was a season ender and for a period of time a franchise ender. If that don’t pull it out, this may be a franchise ender for a period of time, also, but we will see.
Hawks have the better talent at least athletically, not so sure they do with mental toughness and heart and basketball IQ.
Bucks have the better coach hands down. Why in the heck wasn’t a time out called to interrupt the 13 – 0 run? Unbelievable.
They used to say of Bear Bryant that “he can take yourn and beat hisn, and take hisn and beat yourn”.
I think the same if true for Woodson and Skiles.
DawgBoi
April 29th, 2010
12:10 am
Joe Smith 4 minutes, Mo Evans 13 minutes, ZaZa 8 minutes and Teague 1 minute played tonight. Will someone please tell Woodson that it is not a rule that you can only play your starters plus 1 in the playoffs. He loves to shorten his bench and go with his starters for way too long! If your TEAM earned a 3 seed then play that same team to advance. Maybe he thinks that there are substition rules and limitations like in soccer. FOR WHATEVER REASON, MIKE WOODSON IS A HORRIBLE IN-GAME TACTICIAN. He has been a head coach or 6 GD years and the guy still is clueless in managing a game. No chance at winning this series; Skiles has made the adjustments his team needs to win.
Greg
April 29th, 2010
12:10 am
Marvin still sucks. He had one good game and now we forget about the rest of this season…and his career? The Hawks re-upped on his contract because they want him to play like that every night…or at least close to it.
MitchC
April 29th, 2010
12:11 am
Truth, I dont agree with what you said. Sometimes there is a large road/home discrepancy. There was one year in the early 90s that the Knicks won 30 games at home, and finished under 500 on the road. I think they finished with 50 or 51 wins that year. Sometimes teams get on the road, and get affected by the hostility of the crowds.
observor
April 29th, 2010
12:13 am
As an Atlanta native that is over 30, I can’t believe you suckers still allow yourself to be emotionally invested in this team. I deinvested myself from this team over a decade ago, and it was a decision that has paid great dividends since. It’s time to wake up and move on as this is a franchise that is never going to win anything. At least the Falcons have made it two the Super Bowl once and the NFC championship twice. The Falcons will win a championship in the next decade, but the Hawks never will.
UGA0529
April 29th, 2010
12:13 am
It’s Not Woodson people it is a lot more than that. Mike Woodson does need to go but come on you can’t win with Bibby, Williams, Teague , Pachullia on your roster and Al hortford as your center. The Hawks need SHOOTERS and also a true center to allow Hortford to play POWER FORWARD and if Josh Smith wants to SHOOT the ball then release him to. We get Williams could have had Paul, we could have not taken Teague and traded up and got Jennings (A PURE SHOOTER). There is a lot more to the problem than WOODY but I agree he looks as confused as a man that went into an alligator infested lake wondering why he was bitten by an alligator. The Hawks are done people, either way both the Bucks and Hawks will be swept by Orlando so this series means NOTHING. GOOD NIGHT HAWKS and GOOD LUCK BUCKS you all deserved this series
No Calls!
April 29th, 2010
12:13 am
The hawks got hosed by the refs all night! Some of these calls were total BS—hopefully, Woody works the refs early in milwaukee to get some calls to atlanta, or the team will be toast!
observor
April 29th, 2010
12:15 am
excuse the typos…
Should be ‘divested’ and ‘to’ instead of ‘two’….
Its the MILWAUKEE Braves
April 29th, 2010
12:15 am
The Tri-City/MILWAUKEE/StLouis/Atlanta Hawks see JJ in his last game at the Omni II. Why do y’all dislike Woodson? He was a Bucks assistant, we liked ‘im, and he took Tri-City from 12 wins to 53, albeit a first-round bust. Go Bucks! ‘71 World Champs!
Mystikal
April 29th, 2010
12:16 am
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April 29th, 2010
12:16 am
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chic in atl
April 29th, 2010
12:16 am
hawks in 7. i’ll take that! Can we stop ripping on the city of milwaukee and start ripping on the hawks? Interesting fact is that I lived in chicago for 35 years before moving atlanta and they think about atlanta what you think about milwaukee.
Payback in Milwaukee
April 29th, 2010
12:17 am
The hawks will come out really fired up in milwaukee and send the series back to atlanta for game 7—mark it down! The hawks win it in 7 and will give orlando all they can handle. Orlando has 1 great player–they can be beat!
KimZ's Package
April 29th, 2010
12:17 am
OK MB I am picking too hard. I will stop but some of my stuff was funny and true for sure. Good Night Mark B. I hope you get to cover a better few games.
William T. Sherman
April 29th, 2010
12:17 am
A fitting result. I watched games 3, 4 and 5 AFTER I witnessed the very tasteless commercials on the Atlanta station about how Milwaukee was “dominated” in games 1 and 2 (10 points, seriously?), and was not surprised at heart, young talent and one heck of a coach prevailing over a very over-confident team, organization and fan base. Had Bogut been available, this series would already be over. And whether you believe it or not, this Milwaukee team is VERY talented and unselfish. THAT wins games (Check out their record after the break and the acquisition of Salmons). Not the mouths of idiot players. Welcome to karma and teamwork. Refreshing that the good guys can actually be successful.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 29th, 2010
12:17 am
I wouldn’t dissemble this roster. Run an actual offensive scheme and get a coach who actually instills confidence and you’ll suddenly see Joe making shots, Josh making big plays, and maybe even Marvin and Teague reaching their potential.
Woodson is the problem.
FIRE WOODY
TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
12:17 am
Okay Hawks, you really make it hard on your fans, you know? I’m not giving up, damn it. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and play like you mean it!
Pack it in
April 29th, 2010
12:19 am
The hawks have quit—they are ready to get out of town—the players have a lot of engagements, endorsement deals and vacations lined up in the bahamas—just end the misery so they can do their things with a big entourage at the local clubs.
gohawks
April 29th, 2010
12:19 am
hawks shutout… http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/braves-shut-out-again-503290.html scroll down to ‘related’.
Pi$$onaDAWG
April 29th, 2010
12:20 am
The Hawks are playing like the Thrashers, Braves, and the UGA baseball team. Please make it stop! Please.
BravesFan79
April 29th, 2010
12:21 am
Joe Johnson has to be the laziest “star” player in the league! WTF was that foul on Jennings when he just grabbed him, and he rarely closes out on shooters. No way Johnson is worth a max contract!
DawgBoi
April 29th, 2010
12:22 am
Mike Woodson played his reserves, other than Crawford, a total of 26 minutes tonight. He loves to ’shorten’ his bench at the end of the year and come time for playoffs. He has been a head coach for 6 years and still has no clue whatsoever how to manage and NBA game. Skiles has made the adjustments his team needs to win this series. Hawks have no chance with Woodson. Does he think that their are substitution rules similar to those in hockey or soccer? Why doesn’t he trust the guys that got us here. Last time I saw the reserves play any significant minutes was when they blew out the Cavs 2nd teamers to end the season. Hello, our bench is better than most of the teams left and certainly they are better than the Buck reserves. But instead lets just wear our top 6 guys out to, as Woodson put it, “See what we are made of?” This is why we have had so many fourth quarter collapses in big games this year. The guys are worn out and can’t execute to save their collective life down the stretch. The best thing that will come out of this series is that Sund will have to fire Woodson to keep his job, which IMO he did okay at the last two years. BTW, that includes not signing Woodson to an extension after the series win against the Heat last year.
Real Talk
April 29th, 2010
12:22 am
I am so GLAD I DID NOT RENEW MY SEASON TICKETS
The official thread of the Atlanta Hawks. - Basketball - Page 2 - City-Data Forum
April 29th, 2010
12:22 am
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MGM
April 29th, 2010
12:23 am
Why does this situation not surprise me. I have been watching the maturation or lack there of of this team for 5 years. The same theme has been evident. Lack of mental toughness for the players. Lack of smarts. Lack of coaching talent. Super talented with no heart. If we could search the key stories and blogs over the 5 year period I think we’d all be amazed at just how stagnant this team has really been. Sure the wins have increased. Evidence of continuity and sheer talent. Not evidence of maturation or increases in basketball iq or coaching. One can make a strong argument that the Hawks peaked two years ago in the Boston series. They truly haven’t gotten any better since. And this year they have certainly regressed in the first round. Who would have guessed it two years ago. SAD. JUST SAD.
4 Jacks
April 29th, 2010
12:23 am
As long as the current ownership is in place neither the hawks nor thrashers will ever be contenders. Leadership comes from the top of any organization. Most teams reflect their management, hence a heartless and gutless team in the case of the hawks and thrashers. This ownership of these two organizations is not only on the cheap, they are also heartless and gutless, as reflected in their teams. Ownership here will not spend the money to make a true committment to bringing winners to Atlanta. Therefore, I don’t spend my money to see a bunch of losers and now chokers in the hawks case. When ownership changes for the better then I will be back. This ownership group, if that is what you call it, is the worst in the league and they just plain out suck. Watch them put all the blame on Woody (he does deserve some) and bring in another coach on the cheap.
Edlver
April 29th, 2010
12:23 am
You are wrong if think we lost because Atlanta lacks a center. Atlanta should have dominated that position but our stupid coaches would not feed the ball down low – Hawks are up 3-2 easy if we play that game
falconsfan
April 29th, 2010
12:23 am
I was at the game tonight. It is just unbelievable how outcoached Woody was tonight by Scott Skiles. We had no offense tonight, no ball movement, no open looks. The whole game it was iso Joe, or give it to Crawford to dribble on top of the key and then fire a jumper after jumper. He ended up 4 for 18. Joe had 13, and Josh Smith had 7. Those are your 3 best players and we’ll never win with those stats. On the other hand, Bucks were getting open looks, and once again (on the road nonetheless) getting all loose balls, and just playing harder than Hawks. This one falls on Woody. No adjustments whatsoever an entire game. Crawford is not the point guard, he doesn’t run the team like Bibby does, and what happens??? Bibby is on the bench almost the whole 4th quarter. I sure hope we can beat them in Milwaukee, but it won’t happen with this coach who has Horford and Josh Smith shooting 3’s in the crunch time. Unbelievable. Woodson just lost his job tonight.
Reggie (The Bird and Indian)
April 29th, 2010
12:24 am
People, calm down. It’s obviously disappointing but it’s not like we can’t beat the Deer 2 games in a row.
Its the MILWAUKEE Braves
April 29th, 2010
12:24 am
Hey, what’s so wrong with Najeh Davenport there then?
Its the MILWAUKEE Braves
April 29th, 2010
12:24 am
Classic Denial there Reggie.
Giuseppe
April 29th, 2010
12:25 am
I know that theoretically we can still win the series, but I think Woodson needs to be fired tonight. That may wake the team up. Otherwise we are gone…
Atlanta SUCKS
April 29th, 2010
12:26 am
Any chance the Hawks can land Lebron James in the offseason ?
BirdDawg
April 29th, 2010
12:26 am
In the words of Julius Campbell, “Attitude reflect leadership…Captain.” The Hawks have no leadership and their “to hell with it” attitude reflects it. Please…..
FIRE WOODY
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
April 29th, 2010
12:27 am
A loser becomes bitter when he’s behind and careless when he’s ahead.
gulfhawk
April 29th, 2010
12:27 am
This is what happens to a talented group of players with no direction or coaching. So many really good players and a almost great year thrown away. But this is what we have seen over and over and over again the past 2 months. No leadership or help from the soon to be ex-coach Woodson. I really not sure about dismanteling the team, this defeat snatched from the jaws of victory on this stage is a really big body blow. It really hurts.
Monroe's first Redcoat
April 29th, 2010
12:27 am
That big sucking sound you hear coming out of Philips Arena is the Atlanta Hawks. Maybe they ought to move to the Philippines so they can be known as the Manila Folders…..
Mystikal
April 29th, 2010
12:27 am
JOE JOHNSON IS NOT A MAX PLAYER, IF HE STILL ISN’T CONVINCED, LET HIS A&& WALK!!!!!!!!!!! CHOKE ARTIST!!!
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
April 29th, 2010
12:28 am
A loser becomes careless when he’s ahead and bitter when he’s behind!
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April 29th, 2010
12:28 am
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Blake
April 29th, 2010
12:31 am
I Swear this town is snakebit when It comes to sports teams.Everybody Listen UP.Think about this.The Braves have lost 8 in a roll.The sorry New York Mets could’nt do anything right till they played the Braves.The Braves got them corrected AT OUR EXPENSE.Last year the Atlanta Falcons got the Dallas Cowboys season straightened out while Keith Brooking whooped It up ALL OVER THE FIELD.Then the Philadelphia Eagles come to town and the Falcons lay an egg while the Michael Vick show takes charge.He even throws a touchdown pass and we let him.Now the Atlanta Hawks GO up 2-0 to the lowly Milwaukee Bucks and the Hawks are gonna let them salvage their season with a bunch of no names and take this series.Just when you think this town Is on the verge of something big that crazy voodoo takes control and these teams are reduced to wobbly legged morons.Pathetic…Pathetic…Pathetic.How much more can this town take?It’s a stench In our nostrils!WAKE UP ATLANTA IT’S A BAD NIGHTMARE!
Feer the Deer
April 29th, 2010
12:32 am
The bucks are a much better team than what everyone gives them credit for. It does not matter how many games you win in the regular season. Everyone is back to 0-0 win loss in the playoffs. I am a bucks fan and I do not know how the bucks pulled this out but they won and thats what teams have to do in the playoffs. Find a way to win.
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April 29th, 2010
12:32 am
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to step up, he is NOT a max player!!!!!!
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BOISESTATEBRONCO
April 29th, 2010
12:33 am
Braves suck, Hawks suck, Falcons suck. Is it college football time yet? Go Boise State!!
htwo0rider
April 29th, 2010
12:33 am
Mark,
The team with the better players is about to win the series. Milwaukee has a back court, and the Hawks do not. Woodson gone after this choke, and Joe gone next year. Mediocrity returns.
Feer the Deer
April 29th, 2010
12:33 am
and to the fire woody people, you do not have to fire your coach his contract is expiring this year.
Phil4Real
April 29th, 2010
12:34 am
I’m sick of this. Hawks who? Basketball doesn’t exist in Georgia. Bunch of babies. One player from Atlanta is in Orlando crying. Where are the hard nose, get out and work for yours mentality. This is pathetic. I’m done supporting a lame as team with lack luster players.
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April 29th, 2010
12:34 am
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Mista Gamer
April 29th, 2010
12:35 am
“Coach”, you seem to be the only “coach” in the league that truly believes that his 4’s and 5’s can check 1’s and 2’s on the perimeter!! I mean doesn’t that effectively take away your size advantage on the post when your big men are trying to check guards out on the perimeter? Doesn’t that take away from your rebounding? Doesn’t that negate Josh Smith’s shot blocking help defense in the paint?
How can your “superstar” end the game on the bench, fouled out, with 13 points? And why does your “superstar” insist on dribbling the ball til 4 seconds left on the clock. Haven’t you drawn up a play he could be running?
Hey “superstar” aren’t you 6′8? Why do you play like you’re 5′6? Why so many floaters? Ever thought that may be the reason you don’t draw fouls?
Hey “Coach”, wow many times did you ignore the isolation post play with Rignour trying to match Marvin Williams? Did you not find that match up enticing?
Hey “coach” wasn’t Marvin our hot man? When we went through a scoring drought of Iso-Joe’s did you not have a play to get Marvin the ball? Maybe Horford the ball in the post?
Hey “Coach” what is your offensive identity by the way? Bet on a run out off a defensive play? What exactly are you doing during those timeouts when you’re drawing on that court board?
Hey “Coach” since game 3 have you not recognized that Skiles has made an adjustment against your collegiate switching D?
Hey “Coach”….”Coach”???? Anybody home? Guess you’ve gone fishing… for some reason you seem to always checkout in crunch time. I guess I know where your players get it from!
Real Talk
April 29th, 2010
12:35 am
THE #8 CHICAGO BULLS PUT UP A BETTER FIGHT AGAINST BRON AND THE CAVS THEN THESE NO HEARTED BUNCH OF PRETENDERS.
BirdDawg
April 29th, 2010
12:37 am
Actually my friend, it’s “Fear” the Deer.
And the Bucks are a good team, no doubt, but this win had more to do with Woodson’s incompetence than anything else. Milwaukee did what they were supposed to do and took advantage of the teams’ ineptitude.
Oy
April 29th, 2010
12:37 am
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P. Bull Terrier
April 29th, 2010
12:37 am
The Hawks will chalk up their first and only road win of the 2010 playoffs on Friday night and finish off the Bucks at home on Sunday. Proud of their accomplishment, they’ll roll over and lose 4 of 5 against Orlando and watch the Conf. Finals on TV again.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
BravesFan79
April 29th, 2010
12:38 am
I really think the Hawks could be title contenders if 3 things happen.
1. Replace “im to cool to hustle” Joe Johnson with D Wade.
2. Replace Mike Woodson with Jeff Van Gundy
3. Give Josh Smith a brain transplant to make him more intelligent.
mark louis
April 29th, 2010
12:38 am
This team has maxed out. Maybe it’s due to coaching, but I don’t think so. This team will never be more than solid-50 wins, maybe win a 1st round series (and even that is in doubt). But as constituted, they will never contend for a championship. It is time for a major make over.
BirdDawg
April 29th, 2010
12:39 am
LOL @ Mista Gamer and Real Talk.
Mystikal
April 29th, 2010
12:39 am
SO DISCUSTED RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
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ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
April 29th, 2010
12:41 am
Never let your head hang down.NEVER GIVE UP AND SIT DOWN AND GRIEVE.Find another way to win hawks
The series isn’t over till it’s over.
Mystikal
April 29th, 2010
12:41 am
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Jeff D.
April 29th, 2010
12:42 am
This is a team loss, not a coaching loss. The Hawks had a ten point lead with less than 4:00 min to go. Every guy on that floor needed to give more, hustle and finish strong. They didn’t. Woodson can’t force these guys to play with passion, they have to want it for themselves.
BirdDawg
April 29th, 2010
12:50 am
No, Woodson can’t force them to play with passion, but a good coach can motivate them to play harder (ex. Scott Skiles). Woodson should also be able to draw up plays for them to run during crunch time instead of having the players on the floor flying by the seat of their pants.
Paul Hewitt's Agent
April 29th, 2010
12:50 am
Hey what’s going on?
governor404
April 29th, 2010
12:53 am
thanks bradley for making an article out my earlier post today about the possibilities of avery, hewitt or byron scott coaching this team, and did anyone see where i long ago said that josh smith is the worst on-ball defender in the nba and the poor kid has no clue on boxing out and overall ball skills, but since our backs are against the wall and since kurt thomas is setting the pick for jennings, instead of switching out right how about doubling the pick and roll, make kurt thomas beat us for 2 games with that 15footer of his and let’s move on to Orlando because we know jennings can beat us on the pick and roll, let’s stay at home on everybody, especially Delfino, and make kurt thomas beat us, please woody do that for me
Mystikal
April 29th, 2010
12:53 am
Sure technically it’s not over, but what logical reasons do we have to assume they are going to wake up and start playing like they care.
KakNiqueTree
April 29th, 2010
12:54 am
Be cool, all they have to do is go to Milwaukee and win. Josh Smith, just found something for you to do in Brewtown!
Roland Martin
April 29th, 2010
12:54 am
Hey Hawks!..yall ready to go catch sum Bass?..I’m on boat waiting..Hurry up!!!
JASon
April 29th, 2010
12:54 am
Is it just me or do the braves and the hawks play the same way? Just not very smart. Of course its the coaching. But it doesn’t help when Crawford goes 4 for 18. Now that is what I call choking.
governor404
April 29th, 2010
12:55 am
Stop it Paul Hewitt’s agent you can’t win road ACC games vs Md, Clemson …… much less a NBA road game.
JT
April 29th, 2010
12:56 am
THIS WAS SOME FRSGGLE NAGGLE BU__SH__!!!! I’ve been REALLY trying to give Woody the benefit, but tonite it was glaringly obvious, he’s not the best, or even close, strategist. The Bucks stayed fresh because the Hawks NEVER swing the ball, it’s bring the ball down and Jamaal or Joe, whoever commandeers the ball after midcourt, will shoot it under ANY circumstances. That crap doesn’t work during the playoffs man!! The Bucks may be a No. 6, but they are a PLAYOFF TEAM, meaning they are good but not as good as the hawks made them look! I’ve said it once and i’;; say it again, the Hawks need an identity…they don’t know how to play half court and they’re not a running team….there is no F–KING IN BETWEEN!!! You have GOT to do one or the other, or BOTH!! And that’s on the coach….forget it man, i’m done here….can’t stomach thinking about their azzez anymore right now….sheeesh..
MitchC
April 29th, 2010
12:57 am
I just love the choke comments typed in capital letters over and over. Very intelligent.
Now, back to intelligent commentary on tonights game. I do recall one time when a team choked in Game Five at home of an NBA series, and then came back to win. Does anyone remember the 1994 Eastern Finals, Knicks Vs Pacers? Reggie Miller went off on the Knicks for an insane amount of points in the final minutes to win Game Five at MSG. The Knicks then promptly turned around, and gave a gut check effort, to win Game Six in Indiana, before pulling it out in Game Seven.
The difference was. While that 1994 Knick team was offensively challenged, they had Patrick Ewing, one of the 50 Greatest players in NBA history, and Pat Riley, owner of, at that time, four NBA rings, and who, as we all know, would win a fifth ring with Miami.
This Hawk team doesn’t have that one big “Greatest player” to turn to. Nor do they have Riley. Love him or hate him, the man is one of the most successful coaches in NBA history.
Due to these facts, I think the Hawks will lose. I think they will lose quietly, in Game Six, and maybe in blowout fashion.
Mystikal
April 29th, 2010
12:57 am
The coach either has not clue what is going on or is just too inept to make an adjustment. Our star player is nowhere to be found and still refuses to take his big tail in the post or drive. Smitty has started shooting jump shots again. If Bibby isn’t hitting shots he serves no purpose whatsover. I mean, If it takes Jamal Crawford going for 50 again what does it say about the starters?
Mystikal
April 29th, 2010
12:58 am
Anything is Possible, cute and i concur
brandon
April 29th, 2010
1:00 am
mark,
can you believe the last few weeks for sports here in Georgia?
The Braves are on an eight game skid.
The Hawks have lost three games in a row and face elimination.
The Falcons draft is not being rated very well.
Georgia’s basically left with one quarterback.
Dwyer falls into the sixth round of the draft.
It’s like there’s some weird hex on our sports teams!
Bucks Fan
April 29th, 2010
1:02 am
You still live in Milwaukee
April 29th, 2010
12:04 am
“All you “Deer” fans on this blog. You live in friken Milwaukee!
I’m glad we have provided something for you to do and be happy about.
Enjoy…while it last because after this guess what? You STILL live in Milwaukee !
”
Yes I live in Milwaukee and i’m damn proud to. Cause at least in Milwaukee we win Basketball games. FEAR THE DEER!!!
chokepimp
April 29th, 2010
1:03 am
Where is Danny Manning when you need him?
The series isn’t over till it’s over.
April 29th, 2010
1:04 am
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Reid Adair
April 29th, 2010
1:05 am
It’s not entirely impossible for the Hawks to win this series, but considering how bad they played in the two games in Milwaukee and the last four minutes tonight?
Bucks Fan
April 29th, 2010
1:07 am
KakNiqueTree
April 29th, 2010
12:54 am
Be cool, all they have to do is go to Milwaukee and win. Josh Smith, just found something for you to do in Brewtown!
Yeah go jump in lake Michigan after they lose
IlliniDawg
April 29th, 2010
1:09 am
LOVE IT!
The NBA blows to begin with, and the Spirit are the sorriest excuse for ownership in pro sports. On top of that, the Hawks have put together what may be the absolute dumbest and laziest team in the country. Because of this loss, Woody’s contract will expire, JJ will leave (and take his stupid isolation plays with him), Bibby will leave or retire, Josh Smith will pout and maybe get traded, and attendance will plummet to levels of the old Omni days. The franchise will bleed so much cash that the “jerks formerly known as the ownership team named the Spirit” will be forced to sell. Pathetic ownership is the fundamental problem with this team. and the loss of this series is our best chance of getting rid of them!
TS
April 29th, 2010
1:12 am
Skiles has owned Woodson in this series.
tom
April 29th, 2010
1:16 am
The Hawks need to forfiet the next game and end without all the bad press they are going to get. If they can’t beat the Bucks they certainly cannont win against Orlando or anyone else. Even they get lucky and luck is all they can count on at this point, they will lose game seven. Time for the coach to find another home where execution is the norm. See ya next season guys.
braves choke again
April 29th, 2010
1:18 am
Everybody has pretty much covered it. The Hawks are mentally weak, have inferior coaching, and are the DUMBEST basketball team I’ve EVER seen. It’s time to BLOWUP the roster. Just wasted five years…time to rebuild. Dump Bibby, Marvin, and JJ. Fire Woodson. Josh could be a player if he had a coach and a veteran floor leader who would chew on his butt once a game. Horford is the real deal. Build around him.
Hawks < Roadkill
April 29th, 2010
1:19 am
So, just out of curiosity… as a Hawks fan…
How did it feel when your team sqandered a double digit lead?
How did you feel when you saw Smith brilliantly fire up a 3 when the Hawks were down by one?
How did you feel when you felt there was no chance the Bucks could win the series and now it’s a win or go home situation? Oh, don’t forget the fact that you’ve demonstrated that not only are you excellent at losing on the road, you can also accomplish it at home!!
I can’t believe all you sissies saying that you need to rough up our guards to keep them out of the paint… how did that work for yah? Ask Zaza!!
Phillip
April 29th, 2010
1:21 am
Even if we find a way to win the next 2 games there is no way we will beat Orlando. This team has no doubt reached its ceiling. We have still have a huge hole at PG (Mike Bibby is now a backup PG and the coach didnt bother to develop his predecessor this year). If you follow the Hawks closely you know the opposing PG always his way against the Hawks. The Bucks are a one man show talent wise but that one man is a PG, the rest of their team just looks hungrier and much more well coached than us. Its time to let Woody and JJ go and see if we can construct a more balanced roster (find a real tough as nails Center and develop Teague or find a play making PG who can play some defense).
Mafia
April 29th, 2010
1:27 am
Roadkill, 2 games left and you’re already talking like it’s over. By the way, everyone thinks of deer when you say roadkill.
LC
April 29th, 2010
1:28 am
Even though Gearon wouldn’t talk to MC tonight, everybody should go back and read some of these gem answers from him last week, http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2010/04/19/atlanta-hawks-asgs-michael-gearon-jr-talks-hawks/?cxntfid=blogs_hawks.
He actually has the nerve to compare this team to the celtics team with Bird, McHale, Parrish, and Ainge. What a freaking idiot. Why are ATL fans so tortured.
Joe
April 29th, 2010
1:30 am
How can we keep Woody after this series. HE HAS TO BE FIRED!!! We have made ATL a city of losers. Any other team in the NBA would fire this guy, but no our ownership….maybe empty arenas and no decent free agents will be the answer. Its a shame to have so much talent and no heart. It starts with the lack of coaching. Bring on Avery Johnson!!! If Doc Rivers leave Boston, we better have him on the phone quick!! FIRE WOODY!!!
TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
1:33 am
Every freaking game Woody’s biggest contribution to the team is to stand there on the sideline for 48 minutes with that stupid look of bewilderment on his face. That ain’t coaching.
Pro Sports Are BS
April 29th, 2010
1:33 am
Series is FIXED you idiots!
The series isn’t over till it’s over.
April 29th, 2010
1:35 am
Chill Atlanta, Hawks will win in game six and they’ll force a game 7!
Hawks < Roadkill
April 29th, 2010
1:37 am
@Mafia
Here’s the thing, noone in either city actually thought Milwaukee could win this game. I mean, it was granted this series would go to seven games because Atlanta can’t win on the road. Now, instead of 7 games, your team has guaranteed 6 games which means Stern gets less money from this series and he is mad. Very mad at Atlanta.
Yes, this series is over. And so is the next one, even if somehow, Atlanta does win the next two. Bucks or Hawks would get raped by the Magic plain and simple. They are the team to go through in the East, not the Cavs.
Joe Johnson Choke Artist
April 29th, 2010
1:47 am
Even though Gearon Jr. wouldn’t talk to MC tonight, everybody should go back and read some of these gem answers from him last week, http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2010/04/19/atlanta-hawks-asgs-michael-gearon-jr-talks-hawks/?cxntfid=blogs_hawks.
He actually has the nerve to compare this team to the celtics team with Bird, McHale, Parrish, and Ainge. What a freaking idiot. Why are ATL fans so damn tortured.
Hope for the best not for the worst.
April 29th, 2010
1:48 am
Anything is possible.
you saw it today the bucks defeated the hawks in atlanta.
so lets hope the hawks can win at Milwaukee so we can force a game 7!!!
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A loser becomes careless when he’s ahead and bitter when he’s behind!
Never let your head hang down.NEVER GIVE UP AND SIT DOWN AND GRIEVE.Find another way to get a win.
The series isn’t over till it’s over.
Mitchell
April 29th, 2010
1:48 am
Those opponents were top-class…
You mean the Yankees who hadn’t won a World Series in nearly twenty year and had been pretty much crap in the meantime vs. the Atlanta Braves in their fourth World Series in five years?
The Yankees may always be the Yankees, they can never really be an underdog, but the Braves were better and they choked.
Lot of coaches of lots of teams in this city that should be run out of town.
MilwaukeeAdam
April 29th, 2010
1:49 am
Hawks playing like Doves and the Bucks playing like Men. Don’t cry, dry your eyes Hawk fan! If Milwaukee is an armpit then Atlanta is the smelly butt crack!
ktkof08
April 29th, 2010
1:58 am
Yeah I didn’t see this happening at all. The problem for the Bucks is that they really NEED to win in Milwaukee because I doubt they’d win a game 7. How about Smith stop worrying about what he’s going to do when he’s in Milwaukee and just worry about winning a game! Maybe he should start with that.
Oh, and the few d bags ripping on Milwaukee because the Hawks lost… honestly get a fricken life! Nobody likes a sore loser so just grow up!!!
Just Saying
April 29th, 2010
2:02 am
Bad news is we are about to be embarrassed in first round of playoffs.
Good news is Woodson will be gone and Hawks can get a coach in here next season that will take this team to the next level. So it is kind of a victory losing this series. Thank you Bucks!
UGAKev
April 29th, 2010
2:05 am
WE NEED DWAYNE WADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO WHAT IT TAKES HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERY GAME WILL BE SOLD OUT AND HE HAS MORE HEART THAN OUR WHOLE TEAM
tree rollins
April 29th, 2010
2:06 am
Hawks showed their true colors tonight. Joe Johnson will be gone after the season. Woodson may be right behind him. Crawford shows he’s too nervous to contribute anything in the playoffs. This should have been there year but wasn’t. Now without JJ next year it’s back to the drawing board.
falcons pick(ed) spoon
April 29th, 2010
2:10 am
Great joke Milwaukee Adam. You sre showing why people stay away from Milwaukee in the first place. Regardless, we have the better team your coach is just beating the s*** out of ours.
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MilwaukeeAdam
April 29th, 2010
2:23 am
Milwaukee, a Great place on Great Lake. ATL, Hotlanta? A city full of fair weather fans. The Buzzards are dead!
TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
2:35 am
To all the people out there with very short memory spans, so J.J. had a bad game tonight, it’s not like he has them very often. And for someone who is always accused of being a ball hog, it’s kind of funny how many games he will lead the team in assists.
It’s not Joe’s fault if he has a coach who only has one play in his playbook called the Iso-Joe. You can generally count on J.J. for at least 25 points and a lot of assists almost every game. If he leaves this summer then the Hawks are in a world of hurt because the ASG still wouldn’t have the cash to sign a LeBron or D. Wade – not that they would come here anyway.
BucksFann5302
April 29th, 2010
2:36 am
I am a Bucks fan who had the misfortune of missing tonights game. But I must say that I am impressed by most of the peoples comments on this board. You have shown me that as a fan a tough loss can be painful but you didn’t put my team down to much, but any misgivings about them is warrented. They are not the most talented team in the league but they know how to win, and that starts from the top down, from the Owner, Gm,Coach, to the Players, they all play a pivotal roll to sucess. I’m not saying that the bucks will win but as a fan who has not been in your position for a long time, I’m just happy to be here and we’ll see what happens. We lose we still win just getting this far. Again thank you for being so kind, I think,I’ve just read the first page.
TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
2:40 am
If Milwaukee is such a Great place, Milwaukee Adam, then why does most of the city smell like a freaking urinal, especially the Bradley Center?
Big Ray
April 29th, 2010
2:44 am
This series is indeed not officially over. But even if the Hawks win, how can there be anything but an expectation for change?
Joe Johnson’s future is solely in his and his agent’s hands. The Hawks can offer him the max all they want, but does he want to stay here? What would his decision depend upon, besides money? How does he feel about Woody?
How about the Hawks? Some say we have no choice but to try and re-sign him. Okay, so what if we aren’t successful, then what? Does anybody think this through, or do you only have respect for JJ and nobody else in the organization? We have nothing else to build on?
We need to extend a max contract to a guy who choked as hard as anybody in this loss, moreso than our third year center who is really a PF?
Wow…
Josh Smith-Wisconsin tourism director
April 29th, 2010
2:45 am
This series isn’t over. I’m from Milwaukee…reading this just to get a different perspective. A few things I’ll comment on. First, a lot of people have said it…but Skiles is kicking Woodson’s behind in this series. If you look at the starting five’s, the Bucks might have the advantage at one position (Jennings/BIbby), while the Hawks have a clear edge at four positions. There’s no way this series should really be close if you gauge it on individual talent, but the Bucks all know their roles and play well as a team. Atlanta is supremely talented but disjointed and almost dysfunctional. During Atlanta’s last timeout, no one was looking at Woodson and Horford was yelling at Josh Smith for that absolutely horrid 3 he took. Smith also thought he would hold the ball in the post for 10 seconds on one of Atlanta’s last possessions, when your team needed a quick score.Its clear that some of the Hawks players just dont like each other. But the Bucks will find it hard to close out the Hawks in Game 6. For the first time all series, they are expected to win. I dont watch the Hawks enough to comment on Woodson, but its clear that hes not getting through to his players.
As for the cities, theyre just different places that appeal to different tastes. I’ve been to Atlanta for the Olympics…nice place with nice people. Its definitely more “hip” in terms of the club scene, while Milwaukee is much more of a blue collar city. Milwaukee has great bars (it has the most bars per capita of any large city), but not much of a club scene. It can be dreary in the winter but most Wisconsinites are into winter sports at that time. Atlanta is definitely more cosmopolitan and trendy, but Milwaukee is a great city in the summertime. Its got Summerfest, the largest outdoor music festival in the world, and a series of great cultural based festivals with great food and music and culture…German Fest, Polish fest, Italian fest, Mexican fiesta, etc.
Monroe's first Redcoat
April 29th, 2010
2:45 am
@ MilwaukeeAdam: The Hawks may suck, bubba, but there isn’t a single person in an Atlanta bar tonight celebrating because his job just transferred him to Wisconsin…..
Big Ray
April 29th, 2010
2:45 am
Milwaukee fans make me laugh. Milwaukee is so great that they just feel the need to invade every one of our blogs. Morons…
Big Ray
April 29th, 2010
2:48 am
I agree that Scott Skiles has thoroughly outwitted Mike Woodson. Brandon Jennings is handling Mike Bibby.
We should be crushing this team, but we’re a blend of the most talented dysfunction you’ve ever seen. Hooray for us.
Letting Woody go is not the only way to go. This roster needs some retooling as well.
Vic
April 29th, 2010
2:50 am
Dude from Wisconsin was copying the TNT after show. No originality whatsoever.
BuckNutts
April 29th, 2010
2:52 am
Wow… 3 in a row by the lowly BUCKS? How could this be? The Hawks fans out there that say they are a better team are fooling them selves. They may have some players that are pretty good individually but to say they are a better team, I think we all know better. The team is more than just the coach and players, it is front office, trainers, and fans. It appears that the Bucks have it going on all fronts.
Lets go Bucks on Friday, rip out whatever heart the Hawks (players) have remaining!!
HeavyPetter
April 29th, 2010
3:09 am
Hi Atlanta, Milwaukee resident and fan,
The turning point in the series, for me at least, is when the media asked Kurt Thomas about Bibby getting a foul for knocking KT over, “Bibby has been working out,” and a smile.
Your team is the dumbest team in the playoffs. That’s why you arent coming back in game 6. Josh Smith is dumber than a box a sh.it with square wheels.
Sometimes you want your talent to be the talent you want, and ….and…and they are too dumb to use it…..
Fear the Deer
You were never entilded to this series.
Love,
Milwuakee
HeavyPetter
April 29th, 2010
3:11 am
I mean…
Love,
Milwaukee….and yeah….you still lost
bj rufino
April 29th, 2010
3:13 am
If the hawks let jj go to other team that needs him, who do you think will the hawks get to replace him????? Wade???? Chris Bosh??? Amare??? or Lebron???
Atlchick
April 29th, 2010
3:19 am
All I got to say is BALL MOVEMENT!!! MOVE THE DAMN BALL!!! WTF JOE JOHNSON!!! you aren’t a superstar holding the ball and then losing it!! I hope yall win this GAME 6…OR its ON TO THE NEXT ONE!!! damn…I can’t even study for my exam now..I’m angry as hell..
HeavyPetter
April 29th, 2010
3:21 am
It was a street fight and the mentally soft hawks cried uncle first.
Josh Smith-Wisconsin tourism director
April 29th, 2010
3:24 am
Bibby is the wrong matchup for Jennings. Your superstar could guard him, but I doubt that will happen. Josh Smith could actually remember that he’s tall and play as such.
TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
3:34 am
Hey, BucksFann5302, it’s cool. Thanks for the classy comments and, you know, you folks have good reason to be proud of your Bucks because they have shown a lot of heart in this series.
Like I said on Tuesday night, most Milwaukee fans are good fans with a good measure of class. It’s just that, with few exceptions, most of the Bucks nimrods that have invaded our blog just happen not to be in that category (present company excepted). Not a big deal though because it gives me a chance to have some fun, as well.
TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
3:36 am
Hey, BucksFann5302, it’s cool. Thanks for the classy comments and, you know, you folks have good reason to be proud of your Bucks because they have shown a lot of heart in this series.
Like I said on Tuesday night, most Milwaukee fans are good fans with a good measure of class. It’s just that with few exceptions most of the Bucks nimrods that have invaded our blog just happen not to be in that category (present company excepted). Not a big deal though because it gives me a chance to have some fun, as well.
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TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
3:45 am
Wow, HeavyP, I have a hard time giving credibility to someone who can’t even spell the name of the city he is from. How in the world do you get your mail? Thank God for zip codes, huh?
TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
3:52 am
Actually, on second thought, with a name like HeavyPetter, you obviously are still in the eighth-grade and don’t actually receive any mail. But I should have been able to tell that from the very immature comments in all of your posts. My bad.
Tired of thug city
April 29th, 2010
3:59 am
Didn’t watch the game. Don’t watch NBA games. Just wanted again to express my thoughts and ask “why do people spend their time and waste their money watching “thugs” and “jerks” go through the motions and don’t worry about winning or losing. They just want the money and do as little as possible to earn it. I think many (majority) of the NBA players are street thugs who still have the street and playground mentality. The Hawks are a prime example of “low level commitment to excellence and performance”. No wonder they lost … they don’t have drive and a will to win. Just hand me the check and let me go out and take in all the vices and pleasures that are my right to because I’m a player in the NBA. Another year without watching a single game …. I’m still done with the Noting But A**** league.
blonju
April 29th, 2010
4:07 am
i’m so stressed out because i’ve given my heart to a team with no heart.. i won’t give up til the season is over though.. most of the woody comments are completely justified.. AL is the heart of our team and i guess because he’s so young, no one will follow him.. AL should take at least 20 shots a game against this team (like tonite) or any team.. he may be 6′9, but he’s closer to being a true center than 90 percent of starting “5’s” in the league.. and, obviously, we have to be able to make changes as the game evolves – something woody has never been able to do.. most of the time we win despite poor coaching.. this team is in nowheresville, as smoove so eloquently called milwaukee.. To all the hurting hawks fans out there, i’m with you.. and to all the haters, i’m also with you.. what a shame to see all this talent go to waste.. still, “it ain’t over til it’s over” YB…
zip eddie doodah
April 29th, 2010
4:09 am
can you spell C H O K I N G D O G S???
fayncdawg
April 29th, 2010
4:09 am
Is Doc Rivers, Avery Johnson or Billy Donovan available to coach the dumbness out of this team? If this team is kept intact, Woody can’t coach it! Rivers or Donovan would be better suited to coach this group. Both have coached championship teams that knew when to step it up on offense and defense. Under one of those two coaches, the Hawks win in 5 games max! Oh well, after this historic choke job, what do you think of the Hawks chances of signing a Lebron or a DWade? Truth be told this game did not make Atlanta look like a great place to play or coach basketball! This clearly leads me to say GO HAWKS! AND TAKE THE BRAVES WITH YOU!!! I HEAR CALGARY IS NICE THIS TIME OF YEAR!!!!
zip eddie doodah
April 29th, 2010
4:16 am
juat a thought–what do you think is slower—bibbys feet or his mind? i heard this guy on an interview recently and it seemed as though he was barely functional.
Notso Fast
April 29th, 2010
4:22 am
It takes a good point guard to win big time and the Hawks have a point guard that at one time was good now he is not. Can’t guard fast people. Winning teams have a Super Star that takes control of games like last night. The Hawks have Joe and he is good but a Super Star he ain’t.
Anthony
April 29th, 2010
4:29 am
Why do the people here act like they deserve better? Face it, Atlanta is nothing but rednecks that like NASCAR and the Bulldogs. You haven’t ever really attended Hawks games so quit acting like you care now. Every team should be pulled from Atlanta because the city of ATL does Not DESERVE a franchise.
WPinAZ
April 29th, 2010
4:31 am
HIRE BYRON SCOTT!! SHOULD HAVE HIRED HIM THE FIRST TIME, INSTEAD OF WOODY.
Walker, Texas Ranger
April 29th, 2010
5:23 am
Blow it up. Biggest collection of gutless, heartless, players ever. Time to start over because this collection of stoneless players will never win. Get rid of Smith, Williams, Bibby & Johnson and start from there. Headline should have been “Biggest collapse in Atlanta ANALS”
ltdbrave
April 29th, 2010
5:30 am
Hawks just plain suck!!!!! All season they loaf in the second half and lose games. Crawford wanted to make it to the playoffs and he gets there and can’t score, Josh Smith doesn’t play like he should, and Bibby is a waste as well as Williams. Also, Joe Johnson could not hit the broad side of a red barn. Finally WOODSON sucks and could not energize a team if he tried. FIRE him!!!!! What a lazy and unmotivated team.
NikkFree
April 29th, 2010
5:32 am
Woody and Joe…get outta here!!! It’s time to get the right personnel in here that can get the job done.
TheAntiMe
April 29th, 2010
5:46 am
Why do the people here act like they deserve better? Face it, Atlanta is nothing but rednecks that like NASCAR and the Bulldogs. You haven’t ever really attended Hawks games so quit acting like you care now. Every team should be pulled from Atlanta because the city of ATL does Not DESERVE a franchise. - Anthony
lol – Maybe if you could take that brat out of your mouth that you’re chewing on, or whatever it is, you could actually not sound so ignorant. It must be distracting your pea-sized brain. Then again, what else should we expect from a Jerry Springer reject such as yourself?
tidog
April 29th, 2010
6:17 am
another 4th qtr meltdown, so what’s really new ?
Sloan
April 29th, 2010
6:26 am
Very late with this post I know as I see we have long since stopped posting about the game and the hawks and are reduced to blather consisting of mostly personal insults aimed at one another, BUT the futility of this Hawks team is beyond frustrating when you look at the talent on the roster. Woodson is one of the leaders by definition and title. Who are the others? Because truly what is happening here is the exposing of a lack of heart. And heart starts with leadership. If the Hawks lose this series to a vastly less talented team, it will be only because the Hawks leadership has failed to inspire some heart-felt play from its superior talent. That is an indictment of Woodson for sure and probably JJ, Bibby, Josh Smith and Horford as well.
St. Bernard
April 29th, 2010
6:48 am
This is the heritage of Billy Knight. He blew up the team way back when and built in a faulty DNA. Woodson as a coach was a mistake. In the past six drafts or so, we’ve failed to find a superstar (with the possible exception of Josh Smith). We missed on numerous point guard opportunities. We paid too much for Joe. We completely wasted money on free agents (Speedy Claxton) and picks (Sheldon is at the top of that list).
Now we’re talking about blowing things up and starting again…..How much does a fan have to endure? I sat through the Bob Sura years, but I won’t do it again.
Humpback Liner
April 29th, 2010
6:53 am
Atlanta sports same old song and dance, just like the falcons collapse in 1980
BUCKS in Seven!
April 29th, 2010
6:54 am
I told everyone the the Hawks have no heart. Trade Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, Bibby, and Horford for players that have tenacity and the will to win. Sure they’re great players but they have no will to win. Crawford and ZaZa are the only players that want to win and only one of them has any talent.
Ghost of Dan Roundfield
April 29th, 2010
6:58 am
The Hawks don’t seem to care. Why should we?
MitchC
April 29th, 2010
7:03 am
To the Bucks fan who said that Hawks fans didn’t put his team down after the loss: I’m too much of a sports veteran to put any team down. I know that in a short series, anything can happen.
I’ve been a Braves fan for 27 years, through the championship years, and even now, with the hardships they are having. Honestly, the only two times that I thought teams they lost to in the playoffs, had better teams on “paper”, than the Braves did, were the 1999 World Series against the defending champ Yankees, and the 2001 NLCS against Arizona with Schilling and the Big Unit. All the other times that they went down in the first round, or when they lost to the Yankees in the World Series in 1996, I thought the Braves had the better team on paper. The 1996 World Series should have ended as Braves in five, with the way they blew the Yankees out in the Bronx the first two games. As Bradley pointed out, any fan who has followed baseball the last twenty years knows all about Wohlers pitch. Bobby Cox has said many times, the playoffs is a cr’pshoot.
I believe that any team is capable of winning in the playoffs in a short series. You start 0-0. !00 wins in baseball. 50 plus wins in the NBA. It all means nothing. If such wasnt true, the 69 Mets would never have been champions. The Orioles should have blown them away on paper. It didnt happen. The 1995 Rockets should never have been champions. They had a mediocre regular season. The 2003 Marlins should never have beaten the Yankees, who won 101 games in the regular season that year. On and on..
Back to this series: I dont know if it is that the Hawks arent giving the Buckies (I like that name, Buckies) enough respect. If Milwaukee has stepped up their game, if it’s Woodson, or what. Bottom line,whatever the reason, the Hawks may well go down tomorrow night.
Am I upset the Hawks are going to lose? Of course. Am I surprised? No. So many times playoff series have happened in pro sports, where one team “should” beat the other, and it didnt happen. I’m a believer that once a short series starts, all regular season stats, “Shoulds” Woulds, and Coulds, go out the window. If you get one team, or one player, with a couple of good games, or a good series, that player’s team even if a major underdog, can prevail.
sirluciouscp
April 29th, 2010
7:08 am
MIKE WOODSON IS A MORON. GET EM OUTTA HERE.
NCBravesFan
April 29th, 2010
7:14 am
Well for the “fans” who have spent all year thinking the answer is firing Woody and letting Joe go, you may very well get your wish now.
But just know that the questions that lie ahead are gonna get a lot harder. And there may not be very good answers to any of them (in terms of Ws and Ls).
MitchC
April 29th, 2010
7:17 am
I dont follow hockey, but did anyone happen to see how in the NHL, the top seeded Eastern Conference team, the Washington Capitals, were eliminated by the eighth seed Montreal Candians last night in the seventh game of the first round of the NHL playoffs? I know absolutely nothing about hockey other than goal, or goalie, but its once again proof that when teams get into a short series, in any sports, anything can happen. That shows that its not only the Braves with the fourteen division titles, and one World Series win, or whats happening to the Hawks in this series with Milwaukee. Should, and Could, mean nothing in a short series, people.
Ternt
April 29th, 2010
7:18 am
I will not watch another game that woodson is coaching. Sell the Hawks back to Turner and bring us AVERY JOHNSON.
CHA-DRO
April 29th, 2010
7:21 am
it is time to go back to th drawing board… we dont need joe johnson necessarily…. we have a whole team of streky shooters… nobody is consistent when it counts… everybody is screaming fire woody… well that may need to be done but he cant take the shorts for the guys… he is responsible for how they manage the game i.e. shot selection and how they play the fastbreak… I THINK THAT D WADE MAY FIT IN ATLANTA BETTER THAN ANY WHERE ELSE… we just have to free up some of that big time money that joe johnson has been getting… Imean really he’s been getting nearly MVP money for minute and he isnt even a starter on the eastern all star team
bummed courtside.
April 29th, 2010
7:22 am
I was at the game and you could feel the energy get sucked out of the arena during the last couple of minutes. Josh Smith played poorly down the stretch (the 3 point shot was absurd) and Jamal Crawford, you are not Kobe/Lebron (4 of 18 shooting performance and some really terrible shots….reminds some of us aging hoop maniacs of the Knicks John Starks 3 of 19 performance in during game 7 of the finals against the Rockets many years ago). Marvin & Al played well. Why Bibby wasn’t in during those final minutes vs playing Crawford who was terrible will haunt Woodson if they lose the series. But I still believe Woodson is the right guy and a quality coach.
David
April 29th, 2010
7:26 am
The team doesn’t need blowing up. They just need coaching. Sometimes they can get by on ability, when they NEED coaching, they are in trouble.
Cousy
April 29th, 2010
7:28 am
Agree with Larry at 1135pm. The front office provided the coach personnel that should be able to win. He has done little with it.
skdjf
April 29th, 2010
7:30 am
j. smith – playing like a rookie again. all muscle and no brain
JB
April 29th, 2010
7:31 am
This team is a joke!
They play little to no D.
How do you leave guys that are red hot, wide open? They basically play with no heart.
Again, a joke.
bob
April 29th, 2010
7:31 am
how does this team go 3 games getting fooled on switches and this coach can’t show this team how to adjust?
JOE BROWN YEAH YEAH
April 29th, 2010
7:32 am
I HOPE THE OWNER IS READING THIS PLEZ PLEZ FIRE MIKE WOODEN MAKE US A FAVOR. THE FANS WANT HIM OUT NO PRODUCIION MADE HERE IN ATL GET RID OF HIM TIME TO LET HIM GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7:33 am
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The Cynical White Boy
April 29th, 2010
7:35 am
Suits me if the Hawks lose. One less thing to snarl downtown traffic for us working folks.
The NBA sold it’s soul a long time ago to the “hip-hop” “gansta rap” demographic. I really don’t even care whether this city has an NBA franchise or not.
dawgma
April 29th, 2010
7:37 am
Woodson is a loser. What’s funny is now I am guessing no one will hire him away from ATL. What we know for sure is the mgt by committee owners is incapable of making big moves to take this team to the next level.
OH – and they suck as owners of a hockey franchise toooo!
JeJe
April 29th, 2010
7:42 am
There is no desperation at all with this team. Every time we lose, it’s either “They defended their home court” or “It’s a 7 game series)
FIRE WOODY
Charles
April 29th, 2010
7:42 am
Not a fun time to be a sports fan in the ATL- Hawks LOSE to Bucks and Braves LOSING 8 in a row! WE ARE LOSERVILLE!!!
Toni D
April 29th, 2010
7:43 am
Marvin was the leading scorer in the first half and Woody takes him out for 20 minutes. Why wasn’t Teague in to cover Jennings? Second half Marvin was posting up and it was working – next thing you know Woody takes him out for Mo. Terrible. You want Marvin to score more and when he does, he gets benched!
Woody Hater
April 29th, 2010
7:44 am
Did anyone notice the camera shot of the team huddle after the refs were reviewing Al’s three point shot at the end of the game? Woody was talking to himself! No one was paying attention to a word he was saying! I don’t think the players respect this guy. He’s too soft, so they are too soft. Not sure who the commentator was last night, but he was right on when he said that a team takes on the persona of it’s head coach. He was referring to Scott Skiles and the Bucks, but I think it’s even more applicable to our Squawks!
jamie cunningham
April 29th, 2010
7:48 am
this is ridiculous. i’ve been an atl homer for 30 years. and i get let down all the time. woody has got to go. GET US THE CZAR!!!
JJ is a great secondary player to a real superstar. i love his game, but he lacks the vocal leadership and aggressiveness needed in crunch time. can you imagine how good the current team would be with D-WADE running the show? it would be unbelievable.
i don’t like J-SMOOVE jacking up three’s either. but when no one will take a shot, someone has too.
Jon Konkack
April 29th, 2010
7:48 am
Now You Know!
Hawks r done
April 29th, 2010
7:48 am
this is pathetic! 14-0 run to end the game for the bucks! FIRE WOODY! Joe’s not commin’ back he’ll take his money in chicago where he can suck! Hawks suck! Woody especially sucks! Jamal sucks! Joe Sucks!
Mugsy
April 29th, 2010
7:56 am
People need to realize that this was never a team, but instead a collection of players. A team has a point guard and a center, neither of which the hawks have.
TIM
April 29th, 2010
7:57 am
hey guys i feel the same way you do about mike woodson. i want him gone and out of our way.
we need a white coach who will bring class and players without the tatoos and attitudes.
i would love for us to hire jeff vangundy.
LAC
April 29th, 2010
7:59 am
Who cares about pro basket Thug ball ! Watching GRASS grow is far more entertaining !
Send this WORTHLESS team to Billings,Montana, The NOTHING Baskestball team needs to LEAVE Atlanta ASAP !
TIM
April 29th, 2010
7:59 am
mike bibby is a problem too he cant guard anyone. where is jeff teague
sterfri
April 29th, 2010
8:00 am
Josh Smith and Woody aka Mr. Potato Head need to go, when Josh Smith left the game they started winning but when he came back in they started losing. Josh Smith never passes it to the OPEN MAN.
TIM
April 29th, 2010
8:02 am
@LAC I totally agree with you all those thugs out of control on the court. we need quality players with respectable backgrounds. we do not have one white player on the team. if u look at hawks games its nothing but rappers coming to the games. i’m afraid i will be mugged if i attend a game. blacks really know how to take quality out of a situation.
Braves Fan 84
April 29th, 2010
8:04 am
Did you notice the Atlanta Players were more worried about 3-point decision than listening to Woody during the timeout. I dont think players respect Woody. He needs to go. We have talent but the coaches are terrible
Herschel Talker
April 29th, 2010
8:06 am
MB:
To say a first-round exit is worse than the Wohlers pitch blowing a huge World Series lead to the Yankees is completely ludicrous. Enough with the sensationalism.
HT
TIM
April 29th, 2010
8:07 am
he
martin
April 29th, 2010
8:08 am
Stick a fork in the hawks they are done, and while you or at it, do the same to the other birds, when football season begans.
Faith27
April 29th, 2010
8:09 am
Wow. Come on you guys! Be thankful what you have here. I remember when paper bags were the style when attending Hawks games. They are now a national play off team. 13 wins to 53? Now you want to dismantle the team and fire the coach? This team needs support…not your critisms. They want to feel embraced and I am not really feeling the love out there!
It's Time for Woody to Go!
April 29th, 2010
8:09 am
Once again, Josh Smith, the guy we thought had matured over this past year, has shown how immature he really is with that terrible shot near the end. I know that the Hawks’ defense switches a lot, but would yout not change your game plan when you get burned on switches left and right in the last two games. With Joe struggling last night, why would you not feed Marvin the ball more when he was playing the best I’ve seen him play in a while. Sorry to say, but it is obvious that Woody has not done a good job of preparing his team and making the correct in-game changes, and looks like it is time for his exit out of ATL.
Joe
April 29th, 2010
8:10 am
Am I the only one that saw how much better we played when Josh was in the locker room in the 3rd quarter. he is talented in some aspects of the game but he hurts this team more than he helps
Mike Woodson
April 29th, 2010
8:12 am
Hey Andre whatever it is your smoking please send that to me – we could have used it in the locker room after Game 5 but will surely need it after Game 6 and I’m standing in the unemployment line. Do you have some you can also share with Josh?
siskel_god
April 29th, 2010
8:13 am
We’re not firing Woody. Who is better that can be had? Byron Scott? He hot ran out of Jersey and New Orleans and lost in the playoffs with superior teams. Scott Skiles? He did get ran out of Chicago on a rail. Avery Johnson engineered one of the most unexcusable losses in Mavs history to the Warriors. Phil Jackson is not walking through the door folks. Ask yourself this question, how good of a coach is Mike Brown without LeBron? Probably alot worse than Woody. How bout going after some horses like D-Wade, Amare, Bosh, or LeBron and then see how good of a coach Woody is.
RB
April 29th, 2010
8:13 am
Can you imagine how much Brandon Jennings could help the Hawks? He wouldn’t!!!! The reason, Mike Woodson would rarely play him!! It’s the Woodson philosphy ( that makes no sense at all). He does not use young talent properly. He also does not use the bigs sitting on the bench either. The Hawks have hit a ceiling with Woody and that’s a sad thing.
TIM
April 29th, 2010
8:17 am
@FAITH27 MIKE WOODSON AND HIS THUGS NEED TO GO. WE NEED TO ESTABLISH ATLANTA AS A TEAM OF PROMISE. I’M TIRED OF LOOKING AT THOSE BLACK SCUM BAGS. THEY MAKE ME SO SICK WITH POTATOE HEAD COACH.
Wanted 2 Coaches!!
April 29th, 2010
8:18 am
Woodson=Bobby COX!!! Fire them both PLEASE!!!!WAKE UP ATL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glenn
April 29th, 2010
8:18 am
Hey gots an idea’r…put those loser braves in to play next game!
AG
April 29th, 2010
8:19 am
Why are some of you still questioning the talent we have? Can anyone actually say Milwaukee is more talented at any position? (okay point guard?) It is coaching and heart! Delpinoand, Luke, etc are playing with a lot of emotion and heart!!! IT IS THE COACH!!! During the last time out, everyone was trying to see if Hortford shot was a three. 1. Determine who to foul (NOT THE 83% foul shooter) 2. Defensive play to get a steal (actually should be first) 3. MAKE SURE THE TEAM KNOW WE HAVE NO TIME OUTS(he was but NOBODY was listening 4. Design a quick and good three shot on offense. Also, he takes to many DUMB timeouts were no plays are run.
Oh Boy
April 29th, 2010
8:22 am
Dont you just get the sense that all Atlanta sports teams are cursed. So frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JeJe
April 29th, 2010
8:23 am
MIKE BIBBY IS A FAT PIECE OF LARD. SHIP HIS ASS OUTTA HERE
FIRE WOODY
BYC
April 29th, 2010
8:23 am
More useless 20/20 hindsight from Woody.
“The Hawks led by nine with four minutes to play, and then they fell apart. “I thought we shot jumps shots and I thought we didn’t execute,” Woody said”
IF YOU FREAKIN THOUGHT THAT DURING THE GAME, THEN WHY THE HELL DIDNT YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?!?!?!?!?!?!?
This fool obviously does not have the respect of his players, and cannot make an adjustment to save his life. FIRE WOODY
AG
April 29th, 2010
8:23 am
I tell you, some of these people need to move to Whitesville and live a happy life. I don’t care if Marvin was orange – he sucks at basketball!!! Woody is a terrible coach even if he were gray! But outside of basketball I have a lot of respect for each of these men. Marvin appears to be a good young man and so does Woody. He even was the first off of the bus in Milwaukee to help the lady who hit the team bus – making sure everyone was already(according to the news report). Please, if you don’t like African Americans we don’t care and move somewhere we are not and be happy enjoying water polo!
Keep Woody!!
April 29th, 2010
8:24 am
Woody’s the only coach in the city that can get his team in the playoffs—give him a huge raise and bonus, or he’ll leave for a big money job somewhere else!!!
Shug
April 29th, 2010
8:25 am
Sorry, but losing this game or losing this series does not compare to the Danny White to Drew Pearson playoff game or the blown 1996 World Series. Maybe it compares to the Braves losing one of their opening playoff series in 2003 or so.
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April 29th, 2010
8:25 am
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AG
April 29th, 2010
8:26 am
Typo – everyone was alright. Also, let support the Hawks this last one or two games. I bet if they pull it out you people will be right back on the bandwagon!!! This team is to good to lose to Milwaukee in a seven game series. LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!
Joey
April 29th, 2010
8:38 am
Why do other coaches, when sensing a momentum change, call an immediate timeout? It nearly always settles the team down, then they come back out and run a scripted play for an easy basket.
Woody has no such sense of timing, and no plays in his head that result in easy buckets. . .
Life is Frustrating
April 29th, 2010
8:45 am
That was sooo heartbreaking! However, now as a fan, I have a decision to make. Though the reality of the squad is apparent, my faith, hope and love will not tarnish for my team! I am married to a New Yorker and one of the arguments we have concerning sports teams/towns is our ability as southerners to be disloyal based on conditions. In my eyes, to give up on my team is, for lack of a better term, evil. Mad, frustrated, heartbroken…yes, of course! Giving up on my team is not an option. Do we not think the coaches and players are not feeling the sting?? We will win the series and I still believe we have a chance against Orlando and a shot at the Conference finals. You do not give up, cave in or quit. Resilence!!
Neil
April 29th, 2010
8:48 am
This isn’t the Wohlers loss. That was the Series. That said, great column Mark.
Awesome Bucks Fan
April 29th, 2010
8:49 am
Go Bucks.
Joey
April 29th, 2010
8:54 am
Woody doesn’t rest his starters enough in the regular season, and especially the playoffs. The collapses at the end of games is more the starters running out of gas than “choking.”
JeJe
April 29th, 2010
9:00 am
WE ARE NOT GETTING AVERY. HE IS HIRED THROUGH NEXT YEAR
FIRE WOODY
Flatsdawg1
April 29th, 2010
9:02 am
Yea, when joe johnson left the game I actually stopped watching. I knew the bucks would outsmart and outplay our most talented team in the history of the franchise. Is Scott Skiles that good of a coach? Yes, and they figured out how to stop our game and introduce theirs after the second game. Unbelievable, no. Superior coaching. Yes. If a team is talented,not smart, can a coach make them smarter to counter a smarter opponent. Yes, but not Coach Woodson. Coaches win championships because they take their talent and make them better. Coach Woodson hasn’t done that. So The Hawks will go to Milwaukee and may win there and Atlanta but can they beat Orlando.As much as Id like to think they will, who really thinks they win in Milwaukee?
Bucks 4 Life
April 29th, 2010
9:05 am
You can consider your team “more talented” all you want… Unfortunately for you they don’t advance teams to the second round based on talent. It’s about results, and the better team (notice i din’t say most talented) will win this series. Fear the dear.
Bucks 4 Life
April 29th, 2010
9:06 am
*deer
HAWKS=EPIC FAIL
April 29th, 2010
9:17 am
The Hawks have to be the MOST MENTALLY WEAK TEAM I have seen in professional sports in a looooooong time. I have never been on the fire Coach Woodson bandwagon, but after watching him in the huddle last night and this season with the players, he has completely lost this team. When he draws up plays, NO ONE listens. Usually after he finishes diagramming a play, Bibby, Crawford, or Johnson usually show him the play that they want to run. Woodson has to go for no other reason than he has hit the ceiling with these players. They need a new leader they respect and who can maximize their talents to the fullest extent–this team has never reached its full potential.
highest knucklehead-to-talent ratio in the NBA
April 29th, 2010
9:18 am
Gotta love this article from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
All over the league, critics are going to say that the Hawks, who may have the highest knucklehead-to-talent ratio in the NBA, have blown it. But that wouldn’t be giving full credit where credit is applicable.
It was Ersan Ilysova making hustle plays while the bewildered, outsmarted, out-coached Hawks stood around and watched, much as the Bucks had in the first two games at Philips Arena. It was Kurt Thomas, in foul trouble for most of the game, taking a charge in the closing moments, the defining moment of a season that got Joe Johnson, one of the Hawks’ most dangerous scorers, off the floor.
Link http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/92382674.html
Ruttin' Buck
April 29th, 2010
9:23 am
Dear Mr. Bradley, this Hawks loss can be summed up your first sentence in the second paragraph. “Those opponents were top-class.” That’s the bottom line. No one including the Hawks players gave (or gives) the Buck any respect. You were all looking at how the Hawks would match up against the Magic. What is also amazing is how 99% of these Hawk “Fans” have already given up. It’s laughable. The Bucks were one of the best teams in the NBA the second half of the season, and even though Bogut was taken out for the season, the Bucks continued to play very good basketball. As a life long Bucks fan watching Lew Alcindor and the Big O, Moncrief and Cummings, to Ray and Big Dog, and now Bogut and Jennings, this is not even close to one of the biggest wins in Bucks history. Just another win to a quality opponent. But I sure did enjoy it. I loved all the zoombie-like blank looks on the fans, the players and the coaches as the last minute of the game ticked away, and the unthinkable in Atlanta was becoming a reality.
Bottom line, Bucks are a good team… a very good team, and for the Hawks not to respect them as such is the reason for their failure the last three games. And you add fuel to this Bucks fire with such disrespectful comments. I’m sure the Bucks are aware of such comments this morning, but I’ll be passing this link to some of my connections within the organization. I’m sure that will make good bulletin board material. Seriously…. the Hawks should “Fear the Deer.” Fear them, but don’t disrespect them.
As Eddie Doucette used to say…. “BANGO!” (look it up Paperboy)
Ruttin’ Buck — out
Rob
April 29th, 2010
9:26 am
Bring back Dominique!!!
Flatsdawg1
April 29th, 2010
9:27 am
NO , he din’t ! I agree,deer, results will dictate who plays orlando,and the better team will advance in this series, so we’ll see friday if its your bucks or maybe they have to come back to Atl. My point was The Hawks shouldn’t be in this position and I think you would agree they should have beat you guys 4 times by now, but coaching has kept you in it and now maybe you win it..
Howard
April 29th, 2010
9:32 am
I have been a Hawks fan for years. When they rebuilt this team I saw the great potential that some of these players have. Nevertheless I have never been a Woodson fan or a Joe Johnson fan. Johnson is not a superstar yet he is paid like one. We can do better with the money. As for Woodson, two points. First, I had the isolation offense. Unless you have Michael Jordan, Lebron, or Coby, you should not be using it. Get a coach who has offensive movement. Second, look at the adjustments that Stiles made both offensively and defensively after the first game. Then, look at the Hawks after those adjustments. Still playing the switch even though no one on the switch could stop Jennings. This was just plain bad coaching and I think the players have given up because they are frustrated having to play Woodson’s way rather than adjust to what they are capable of doing against a given opponent.
They make me sick
April 29th, 2010
9:32 am
They make me sick!!!!!! I have never seen a team that can get so close and loose it. What is the problem, are you being paid to lose? I have been in Atlanta all my life and have never seen any other team shut down like the HAWKS!!!! I told people a long time ago, please move to Birmingham, Alabama. It makes no sense staying here humiliating our city.
ladyhawksfan
April 29th, 2010
9:32 am
The Hawks lost this game because of Jamal Crawford,,plain and simple.He was 4-18 from the field.Bad shot after bad shot,he hasnt figured out when to shoot and when to pass.Although his defense was better tonight,his shot selection killed us on the offensive end.Why didnt Bibby play more in the 4th?Maybe Crawford shouldnt be used as the lead guard.Joe also let us down tonight.His shot selection was questionable and he over dribbled on several possessions.Why does Woody keep spoon feeding Joe the ball when AL has a natural small foward defending him.I dont get it.And those two missed layups by Josh and Crawford was the difference in the game,not to mention the dominance at the free throw line.Were the refs only working one end of the floor.Not to be making any excuses but all was getting hammered whenever he was on the block.All things in consideration the Hawks back court played terrible tonight and they still should have won.Maybe J.J bounces back with a 40 pointer Friday to salvage the series,because he should feel terrible the way he let his team mates down.Ultimately,i still believe there will be a game 7 on Sunday.Lets hope so.
caliban
April 29th, 2010
9:34 am
Josh Smith needed to remember that one little thing there was for him “to do in Milwaukee” um, y’know, Play Basketball.
Kerry
April 29th, 2010
9:35 am
Atlanta had that game and blew it, I’m trying to figure out how are they going to win Friday When they can’t keep a nine point lead at home, It might be for the best, Because orlando was going to whip hawks but, SORRY HAWKS!
Rocky
April 29th, 2010
9:35 am
Thank you to that thug Josh Smith for opening his big fat mouth. He had to spout of about Milwaukee and jack their crowd up. Smith’s mouth is bigger than his game.
Brad
April 29th, 2010
9:36 am
Woodson is the worst coach in the NBA and possible sports!
Sick & Tired Of Being Sick & Tired
April 29th, 2010
9:40 am
The Hawks seriously need to consider acquiring a European player that can consistently hit 3-point shots from outside. Until then, they will continue to struggle when they play teams that can consistently hit from outside.
Fear the deer « Sucking Funglasses
April 29th, 2010
9:41 am
[...] more to go…and Mark Bradley puts the choke into context. It may be part of my DNA to despise all things Wisconsin, but the Bucks are an exception. Prolly [...]
Milwaukee Fan
April 29th, 2010
9:46 am
Here’s an idea – give the Bucks some damn credit. They are a solid team, playing with intensity and heart. Even without Bogut, they are proving that they belong in the play-offs. I am hoping for a win tomorrow in Milwaukee and then, people will give the Bucks the credit they deserve.
ELVISINTHEHOUSE.
April 29th, 2010
9:49 am
Keep west and teague on jennings and we win round 1.Looking at the hawks coaching IQ that don’t happen so get rid of woodson,let johnson walk,trade marvin and bring back childress,bye bye to bibby,use the marvin trade along with evans and a fat contract to try and lure in wade or bosh.Long shot to get wade but try anyway.Look for a proven point and get a center.People i don’t know how this would happen(speaking of bringing in players) but i hope it do.
Bucky
April 29th, 2010
9:51 am
Hey sm02180n, what exactly are Bucks fans saying on here that is so terrible that is showing a lack of class? Seems to me most of the Hawks fans are giving the Bucks NO RESPECT. Yes, if the Bucks do come out of this series they’ll likely be thumped by the Magic. But, in the NBA playoffs the smart, tough, defensive minded teams are more successful than the show boating, fast athletic teams. Look what’s happening in this series, the Nuggets-Jazz, Mavs-Spurs, and Lakers-Pistons Finals years ago. Give the Bucks and their fans some respect and I really doubt the Bucks are one of the two worst teams in the playoffs right now as one commenter alluded to. GO BUCKS!!!!!!
Pete
April 29th, 2010
9:52 am
The Hawks are the epitome of a clueless, classless, rudderless, ZERO quality sports franchises in the history of all pro sports.
It just doesn’t get any more pathetic.
If you asked ANY sports fan in Atlanta “Who owns the Hawks”………..they wouldn’t have a clue…………nor would they care.
End of story.
Rod
April 29th, 2010
9:55 am
Bottom line is the Hawks once again got outcoached. Woody is stil switching every pick and roll even though the Bucks are abusing it. Scott Skiles adjusted after the 1st 2 games and Woody hasn’t. I think that Sund is watching these events unfold and realizing that Woody has reached his peak with this team. Time for a change!
Tech Sucks
April 29th, 2010
9:56 am
Sure gives a lot more to think about in regards to re-signing Woody and Joe Johnson at a max contract. I love Joe Johnson but we can’t pay a max contract to a guy who scores 14 points or so in the playoffs.
Flatsdawg1
April 29th, 2010
10:00 am
Elvis, I was about to say why in the hell would you not put teague on jennings, nobody else can stop this guy. At least he and mario could disrupt his game , I’ve never seen a player that could drive at will to the basket and circle it without getting touched and come out and set up another play, usually his.Right now it’s like hes playing at the YMCA. The Bucks are a solid team, underrated and a great coach, I like jennings and salmons, but yea Hawks should be resting for Orlando but may never play em.
In The Paint
April 29th, 2010
10:09 am
No…I repeat….No reliable play at Point Guard. This has always been the Hawks problem…We drafted a good PG with the #19 pick last year and he never sees the floor. Instead we watch Bibby, JJ…should have been playing Jeff Teauge considerable minutes all season…big mistake!
calbaby44
April 29th, 2010
10:13 am
Regardless of what has happened thus far the Hawks will lick their wounds and take care of the Bucks in 7 here in Atlanta and will take the Majic all way to a seven game series where they will win and probably fall just a little short to the Cavaliers in the Finals. Be patient Atlanta, its all good we still got this.
Grovetown Brave
April 29th, 2010
10:14 am
Two mistakes the Hawks have made.
1. the drafted marvin williams when chris paul was available.
2. they’ve kept Woodson around too long.
Big D
April 29th, 2010
10:14 am
Mike Woodson is a great reg season coach, his win totals incrased each season is evidenced of that. However, come playoff time thats where it ends with Woody unfortunately. That and the Hawks dont have a player that can take over games. JJ is a solid 2 at best. He fades in big games and last night was proof of that. This team also needs a 7′0 to start at center because AL at 6′8 aint gettin it done.
Not Drinking the Kool-Aid
April 29th, 2010
10:14 am
With all due respect the Bucks play pretty good defense. Without Mike Redd and Bogut they should have been eliminated tonight by any real contender for the eastern conference finals. The Hawks, poor Hawks. The switching defense had Al and Josh twenty feet from the basket last night a fifth grade team could have out rebounded, out hustled , and out played the Hawks last night. Nobodies criticizing Marvin today, goes to show you it is not the players its the coach. Woody, why not try a zone last night or something anything to beat the Bucks pick and roll? In the offseason after Woody gone, hire Avery Johnson, cut or trade for a KFC snack box Mike Bibby, watching last night as a veteran he is a cancer on the bench also, JMO. Resign Joe you have to nobody else is coming here and I think Joe is just tired. Get a big man. And start Teague day one. Draft or get a backup point. Try to keep Crawford. Team will be fine.
Go Hawks 2011
April 29th, 2010
10:24 am
SEE YA JOE AND GET WADE….IF YOU’RE GOING TO PAY THE MAX FOR JOE, WHY NOT PAY WADE??? WHO YOU RATHER HAVE JOE OR WADE.
ladyhawksfan
April 29th, 2010
10:25 am
WOW so many raciest comments on this blog.Do any of u red necks know the definition of a thug.So thats why you dont watch the NBA because black athletes have taken over.Being black and having a lot of tats dont make u a thug,but i do agree we need a couple of white players on the team.Maybe Luke Ridnour .
Go Hawks 2011
April 29th, 2010
10:26 am
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JOE JOHNSON “SUCKS” IN THE PAYOFF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ladyhawksfan
April 29th, 2010
10:28 am
The Hawks should be banned from the NBA if the Bucks win this series.
Enough!!!
April 29th, 2010
10:31 am
Hawks are TOAST!!! The team lay’ed down – But since you cannot fire the entire team – you fire the coach!!
SunsFan
April 29th, 2010
10:32 am
The camera shot of the Hawks bench during the delay near the end of the game while the officials were trying to decide if the shot was a three or two spoke volumes. Coach Woodson was trying to draw up a play, but every single player on the Hawks bench was focused on the officials. I was embarrassed for your coach. He seems to have lost this team. Just my opinion as an unbiased fan.
Big D
April 29th, 2010
10:33 am
The Hawks did not improve their team quality wise from last year. They are overal a regular season team only, just good enough to make the playoff without making a serious push for the title.
Jos Smith and Marvin Williams hurt this team more than helps. JJ is a #2 option at best and there still is no true C. Al at 6′8 aint getting it done.
Much as I like Woody its time for a coaching change as well.
jg
April 29th, 2010
10:33 am
3:55 to go in the 4th qtr up 8 points. there is absolutely no way for an nba team to squander that lead. if you move the ball around offensively and milk the shot clock :22 every possession–you should be able to shorten the game, get some very good shots and shoot a lot of foul shots to wrap the game up. well we didn’t have ANY ball movement, couldn’t make lay ups, STILL can’t box out on a missed free throw on the defensive end and shot NOT A ONE free throw.
UN-FREAKING-BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my 6 year old tried so hard to stay up and watch this game last night but told me he had to go to bed because, “hawks got it dad–we are ahead by 8.” and i can’t stay up any longer–can’t believe i’m going to have to tell him our team blew yet another one.
sad day to be a hawks fan–i typically always root for the underdog in sports. sad thing for me is that the underdogs never seem to win. but now for the first time in a long time my team was not the underdog–but yet this time the underdog appears to have locked the series up.
not giving up–this team has proven me wrong many times before this year after heartbreaking defeats. several times i’ve spouted off–i’m going to put a lot of money on so and so tonight against the hawks…there’s no way they can beat team whatever after that performance–but every time i’ve said that the hawks HAVE shown some intestinal fortitude and won those games. so here goes one more time: i’m betting the house on the bucks friday night–don’t care what the spread is.”
Good News
April 29th, 2010
10:34 am
As soon as the Hawks blow a 2-0 lead you can turn the channel and watch another lousy Atlanta product, the BRaves!!
al
April 29th, 2010
10:40 am
Players play and coaches coach. No adjustments at all, no team in the NBA have there 5 switch on a 1 never!!! no team does that. Give him the jump shot but not the switch. they were told to switch on all screens. That what the coach wants not the player. JJ is a two a shooting gaurd and a good one why was he coving the point gaurd Jennings? Why did you draft Jeff Teauge he is a quick point guard if he can not cover their point then cut him from the team now. he has played two min in this whole series and that why the players are mad. This team has talent it is the one and five position. Joe smith should start at the Five position. Joe smith, Al, josh smith, JJ and teauge back ups Zaza, carwford, marvin, biby and keep it moving the players would agree with this line up due to the fact they get to play the position the want. FIRE Woody now Hire me I need a job will coach the last two games for a 100.00 and diner …
Tell It Like It Is
April 29th, 2010
10:43 am
It is bad losing to the Bucs, but at least it is not as bad as the beating the Hawks would get in facing Orlando. Lets face it, this team is not a playoff team at this point. They have good players but lack team chemistry. You cannot compete and win in the playoffs without team intensity. Changing coaches will not make them any better. The Hawks need speed and penestration at the guard position. If they had a guard like Rondo, the series would be over and Orlando would be next.
lazydawg
April 29th, 2010
10:47 am
Blow that team up and rebuild w/Crawford ,the only player with any common sense.Joe does not know how to lead a team ,his free agent money goes down with every game he plays.Hell sell the team I want to pull for a winner,enough already!!
mws17
April 29th, 2010
10:47 am
Funny how a “team concept” and intelligent play (the Bucks) can oftentimes overcome a group of individuals that may be more inherently talented (the Hawks). While we sit and bemoan the last three losses, Milwaukee’s season has already hit a pinnacle no matter what happens from this point forward. Bucks fans are ecstatic with the way their team has “manned-up” under adversity. And Milwaukee’s front office is paving the way to bigger and better things for that franchise in the years ahead. The Bucks have a game plan! What’s our game plan? Do we even have one? Stay tuned… only time will tell.
Walker
April 29th, 2010
10:50 am
Things couldn’t be going an better for our friend Mark Bradley. He’d LOVE to see the Hawks get eliminated because he’s scared of Mike Woodson. Woody doesn’t like him and Bradley wants him out and wants a new guy in that he can try and get the upper hand on. Same thing with Paul Hewitt.. Hewitt can’t stand Bradley, Therefore Bradley always comes around when Tech struggles. Bradley isn’t respected by anyone in the Atlanta sports scene. Should hawks be looking for the missing coach? or the missing player? …We need depth…Fire Woodson? I say fire Bradley/
Eddie
April 29th, 2010
11:10 am
The Hawks’ days were numbered form the beginning of the playoffs. There was a little hope that they would pull off an upset in round 2 by winning a game on the road, but it wasn’t really expected.
It seems that the players are out of position a lot on defense, and unfortunately, sometimes J. Smooth appears not to give the effort needed. Last night’s game should have been the game in which the Hawks showed what they’re made of.
They were utterly embarrassed in the 1st game in Milwaukee, and should have come out for the 2nd game, and showed that they were the 3rd seed in the playoffs for a reason, but instead they folded again. Probably thinking, that once they got back to “The Highlight Factory” they would turn up the heat on the Bucks. Instead, they laid an egg.
With all the failure on the road during the season and the 4th quarter meltdowns, they now are expected to formulate a new plan, in order to achieve different results. I can you expect to fix in two days, what you haven’t been able to fix in more than half of the season?
One of the Hawks’ beat writers wrote a nice article on the team during the season where he traveled with the team, and sat in on the practices, etc. He noted in the article, that Woodson had to go over plays and player positioning repeatedly, and on the very next run through, someone would be out of place. He didn’t mention names. So, whereas a lot of people want to blame Woodson, maybe he’s done the best that can be done with the players that he has.
Physical prowess is only part of what’s needed to be the very best.
hatfieldgeoff
April 29th, 2010
11:11 am
Woody has proven what I think management wanted to know; he has no Plan B. When another coach counters his move he just keeps doing the same thing. Hawks players would look a lot smarter if they were being used correctly. So long Woody thanks for playing. Hawks improvement the last 4 years is due to the individual improvement of the players themselves. It was not and is not the coaching. The good news it that a proven coach should be interested in this conglomeration of talent. Scott Skiles would have swept this series if he was the Hawks coach. Hopefully management will learn and bring in a good coach. As for Hawk fans this is disappointing but it was over in the next round anyway. The Hawks had/have no chance against Orlando (or Cleveland).
Paul
April 29th, 2010
11:12 am
The matchups on the court may favor the Hawks but the matchup in coaching is the difference in this series. The Bucks play hard, the Hawks have tuned out Woodson.
from section 122
April 29th, 2010
11:19 am
Watched Josh Smith literally too tired to play in the 2Q. Woodson left him in and watched JS not even make it up the court for 1 possession. (we played 4 on 5)
The Bucks don’t match up inside at all. Unfortunately, we didn’t take advantage of it.
Even if we somehow pull this out of our collective asses…Orlando will crush us.
This team peaked last season. Time to rebuild.
DJ Baller
April 29th, 2010
11:22 am
The Hawks are just about done for the season. What more were you expecting from this team? Have you noticed how Joe Johnson disappears in the playoffs? Please look back at the last few years. Here is our multi-million dollar superstar who can not lead this team when he is needed. Did you notice how they were playing playground ball in the 4th quarter? No leadership or guidance from their coach or anybody on the floor!!! It’s time for a change if you really want to get to the next level. So what do you do? Pay Joe $$$$$$$ to get you to the playoffs? Pay the coach more $$$$$$ to get you to the playoff? To me the obvious answer is to let them go.
reddjonn68
April 29th, 2010
11:26 am
Once again another Atlanta team remains a fence-sitter never improving in the off season to get over the hump for a solid run at a ring. Yes Jamal was a lean in the right direction but speed at guard is now what the NBA has come to, play Teauge or trade him. We lost too many games this season with these type of collapses close ones are suppose to make you stronger for the playoffs. Woodson has done nothing to use those games as teaching tools instead the team takes on the same lost look as it had all season in the close ones (yeah we had some miracle finishes but we lost more than we won in games decided by 4 or less). All teams are reflection of its vets, its coach, and its star power. Unfortunately we lack leadership in all three areas. This is the state of ATL sports we just make enough trades to fill spots we never go after differance makers. The Braves are prime examples baseball has never had a salary cap & during that great playoff run we never went out and signed a single big name player. The Jets are doing everything under the sun to surround Sanchez for a run at a ring, what about Matt. Mike Woodson I respect you, but I don’t think your team does, and it showed when times got rough in the clutch, too much anger & not enough desire
Jeffrey
April 29th, 2010
11:37 am
Does anybody in their ‘right mind” think the Hawks have a chance to tie up the series in Milwaukee tomorrow night?? I didn’t think so..The Hawks have been outcoached, outplayed, and have already given up on the series..you can see it from the look in their eyes..UNACCEPTABLE to lose that game last night at home..PATHETIC!!! Scott Skiles is a MUCH better coach than Woodson and it shows in his teams performance compared to the Hawks..Skiles was a tough, gritty player in his time who never gave up and his team plays that way now too even without their best player..players take on the personality of their coach..a huge reason why the Hawks simply can’t get it done in the playoffs year in-year out..Read my Lips Hawks’ ownership: FIRE MIKE WOODSON!!!!!!!!
Drew77
April 29th, 2010
11:44 am
Woodson has taken the Hawks from a 13 win team to a 53 win team in 5 years. Each year they get better. The trouble started when Josh Smith ran his mouth after winning game 2, saying the Bucks were nothing. Since then he has been inconsistent (He scored 7 points yesterday and was trying to show off with a backwards slamdunk that missed with 3 minutes left, that would have sealed the game). Josh Smith is talented but I can’t help but to think of T.O. and Iverson, me me players whose immaturity plagues the team. Remember when Josh Smith left the Hawks went on a run and got up to a 13-point lead. When he came back well… they lost. Woodson may not be great but this is not his fault.
Drew77
April 29th, 2010
11:46 am
I hope they show fortitude and play hard of Friday,otherwise the 53-win year was for nill.
David
April 29th, 2010
11:48 am
The sad part is I wasn’t shocked by this turn of events. I guess the only silver lining at this point is that the Hawks are even good enough to care about. That was a pathetic performance down the stretch that made me embarrassed to be a Hawks fan last night though.
Mike Woodson
April 29th, 2010
11:49 am
After I shave my eyebrows, I am joining the Cleveland Show on FOX. That way my stupidity can be laughed at as opposed to frowned upon!
wilmer
April 29th, 2010
11:50 am
Look at the positive side…at least the Hawks will not be the team that gets destroyed by the Magic. GO MAGIC!!!!
Mike Woodson
April 29th, 2010
11:52 am
My eye brows are on fire son, ON FIRE!
John
April 29th, 2010
11:59 am
Mark, I have to agree vociferously with the previous commenters about your comparison to Game 4 in the 1996 World Series. To state that a loss to an inferior team in Game 5 of a first-round NBA playoff series (especially given that this Hawks team is quite obviously not going to win the title) is somehow worse than choking away an all-but-certain 3-1 lead in the World Series…that is really one of the least intelligent things that you’ve ever written. I have been a Braves/Hawks/Falcons fan since I was about 8, in 1987, and there is no question that the Wohlers/Leyritz game was the most awful moment I’ve had as an Atlanta sports fan. It literally felt like getting punched in the stomach. I don’t know off the top of my head what I’d rank second, but whatever it is, I’m certain it’s a distant second.
savannahdawg
April 29th, 2010
12:09 pm
Good teams, good coaching, good players don’t allow this to happen in the playoffs! Spread the blame to everyone!
Dave
April 29th, 2010
12:11 pm
The Atlanta Spirit ownership group should send a $50,000 check to Scott Skiles, coach of the Milwaukee Bucks, because his team and his SUPERIOR coaching should have removed any doubt that the Atlanta Spirit had about the following:
1) Coach Woodson is a good coach for a group of young players who needed to be groomed to become NBA players, but he is completely out-classed when it comes to game management, calling plays and leading this team to the next level.
2) Joe Johnson is NOT a NBA superstar who is worth a max contract.
I was willing to give both Woodson and Johnson the benefit of the doubt, but last night’s game made it clear to me, the casual NBA fan, that Woodson is NOT a top-tier NBA coach and that Johnson is NOT a NBA superstar.
Sekou Smith said it this morning: The Hawks have their own lighting quick point guard in Jeff Teague, but Woodsin refused to play him enough during the season to get him ready to play in the postseason. That is just ONE failing in a long list that is becoming evident as the postseason progresses.
Even if the Hawks manages to win on Friday (a game I have NO intention of watching) and then again on Sunday (I MAY watch that game if it gets that far), they would have NO CHANCE against the Magic, making what the Spirit must do obvious:
1) Show Woodson and his coaching staff the door by simply NOT offering them contract renewals.
2) Identify a strong, X-and-C coach who CAN lead this team to the Eastern Conference elite. There is probably a long list of available coaches from which to choose.
3) Offer Joe Johnson a good ($65M over four years), but NOT max-level contract this summer. If someone else is willing to spend the max-level for Johnson, so be it. Jamaal Crawford can then step into the shooting guard starting role and the Hawks can shop for a good back-up shooting guard in either the draft or the free agent market, plus MAYBE sign a make-a-difference player at center so Al Horford can be the power forward he is best suited to be.
4) Play Jeff Teague next year for significant minutes to groom him to eventually replace Mike Bibby, whose skills are obviously deteriorating with age.
Just my humble opinion…
Gamer
April 29th, 2010
12:23 pm
ALL OF THIS BITTER-TASTE FROM THREE CONSECUTIVE DEFEATS WILL GO AWAY WITH TWO CONSECUTIVE WINS!!!
HAWKS, SHOW YOUR TRUE SELVES!!!! SHOW YOUR RESOLVE!!!!
JOE JOHNSON, YOU CAN’T LET WEAKER DEFENDERS SUCH AS SALMONS PUSH YOU AROUND AND FORCE YOU TO UNDESIRABLE SPOTS ON YOUR SHOTS…
WOOODY, USE YOUR TIME OUTS WHEN YOUR TEAM NOT PLAYING SMART WITH A BIG LEAD IN THE WANING MINUTES……TO SAY, AFTER THE GAME HOW THE TEAM LOSS IS FUTILE. COACHES ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE THAT INSIGHTFUL EYE INTO THE GAME BEFORE THE GAME IS OVER!!!! NO EXCUSES, NO LOSING ANALYSIS AFTER THE FACT BRINGS A COACH QUICKER TO HIS OWN DEMISE THEN SULKING WITH A DON’T KNOW MENTALITY OR MUNDANELY REPEATING THE SAME DULL REMEDIES AS YOU HAVE DONE LATELY AFTER EACH LOSS..!!!
WOODY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND COACH!!!!
CAN MARVIN DUPLICATE HIS GAME IN MILWAUKEE????
GO HAWKS MAKE BEDLAM….STRIKE FRIGHT INTO YOUR OPPONENT!!!!
Dominique?
April 29th, 2010
12:32 pm
How many titles did ‘nique win?
BYC
April 29th, 2010
12:39 pm
Two defensive plays that were horrible yesterday
1. At one point Mbah a Moute got past Horford and had a clear path about 10ft from the basket. Josh Smith is on the opposite side of the basket with his man boxed out. He sits there and watches Mbah a Moute leisurely drive in for a dunk. I thought Josh Smith was known for his help defense blocks?
2. Hawks turn the ball over and Ridnour starts towards the Hawks basket with JJ along side him. Ridnour hesitates and slows down because Joe is much larger and in a good defensive position. Joe SLOWS down with him, and stays side by side, instead of getting between Ridnour and the basket. Ridnour starts slowly driving for a layup. What does Joe do? Get a hand up and contest it? Try to get a block on the much smaller and less athletic Ridnour? No, he two hand shoves Ridnour to the ground without even thinking of playing real defense.
Makes me effin sick
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12:45 pm
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Stuart
April 29th, 2010
12:50 pm
They say that a team reflects its coach. Don’t you see how lazy the Hawks are? They don’t give the intensity like a Scott Skiles-coached team does, or Jerry Sloan, or Larry Brown, or Gregg Popvovich. Woodson isn’t going to go out and grill his team for playing like “dogs” because he knows they can play better. Woodson just sits back saying stuff like “good game” and “to bad that one got away.” Woodson has no fire or passion for his players. Sure he says stuff like “we need to pick up the pace” during the game, but he essentially says it with the tone of a librarian.
To go along with that, Woodson has been out-coached by Skiles this whole series, which has been the team’s biggest flaw. While Skiles has made adjustments on offense (by running a pick and roll up top so he can get a mismatch with a guard, usually Jennings, and an Atlanta big man; as well as scoring in the paint and limiting jump shots) and on defense (by tightening up things down low and not allowing the Atlanta bigs to dominate), Woodson has done nothing to adjust on either end. He just takes the approach of “oh, we’ll show up next time with more effort” and everything will be fine. This is ridiculous. The Hawks are loaded with much more talent than the “deer,” yet they can barely hold their own.
So Joe Johnson fouls out late in the game. Why does Atlanta choke? Because this is the point in the game when Woodson only runs the give-it-to-Joe-and-get-out-of-the-way offense, which is the most predictable in the league (even more so than Kobe getting a last shot), so in turn, it hardly ever works. So with Joe out, no one else is used to even touching the ball at this point. Sure Crawford will get the late shots every now and then, but when he’s having an off night like last night, then who do you go to? What the Hawks should have done, as every TV commentator has pointed out while covering a Hawks game this year, is run the offense and create offensive plays for any of the five players on the floor: this includes passing, moving the ball, and movement away from the ball. This should happen even when Joe is on the floor late in a game. Otherwise the defense easily has time to set up and doesn’t have to budge. But running plays such as this requires effort and strategy on the part of the head coach, which Woodson never does. While watching great teams like the Lakers and Spurs run such plays, Woodson always sticks with the give-it-to-Joe play, and even though it hasn’t worked for the most part for years, he doesn’t even bother to make an adjustment or try something else.
OK, so Jennings is a quick little guy here who is tough to guard, especially for a guy like Bibby. To bad we don’t have anyone like…wait a sec…we do have a quick point guard on our team, one who’s actually even quicker than Jennings! That would be Teague who has done nothing but sit on the bench this whole series. Instead of utilizing your 1 quick, explosive player who could contain Jennings as well as easily split the defense, he’s just rotting away on the bench. Why? Well, he’s a rookie and you don’t want to have rookie mistakes during the playoffs. Sure, I can see that, especially since he’s been sitting on the bench ALL SEASON and Woodson has never played him except to close out blowout games (which were few and far between) or fill minutes in the second quarter against the low teams you knew you were going to beat anyway. If he had actually been given time to play and develop during the regular season, playing him here in the post season would be no issue at all. But he didn’t get this playing time because if he so much as dribbles the ball in a manner that displeases Woodson, he comes out of the game. But Joe can do whatever he wants because Woodson is so obsessed with him. So the rookie doesn’t get any playing time, just like Boris Diaw, Salim Stoudamire, and Acie Law, all of whom could have been effective players (as Diaw proved when he got most improved player the year after he was traded from the team). But instead Woodson brings them in to run an offense where they simply dribble up the court, hand the ball to Joe, then back away for the rest of the play. When Diaw was allowed to do more than hand the ball over with Phoenix, again, he got the award. Why won’t Woodson ever let his players do more toward what they are capable of other than Johnson? Instead of identifying his players strengths and using them to formulate his offense, he simply tries to get whatever players he has to run whatever plays he wants, even if the players aren’t exactly the model fits for his type of offense. This is limited though, as he usually just gives it to Joe anyway, not allowing any players to even come close to their full potential (yes, including the #2 pick of the draft Marvin Williams, who, with Crawford’s arrival, now just sits around looking for garbage points off the board instead of getting offensive plays run for him as he did last year to help in his progression). Woodson doesn’t take advantage of what he has.
OK, so Joe’s a quiet guy. He may be the scoring leader and the go to guy, but he doesn’t have the fire, passion and desire of a leader like a Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, etc. He doesn’t have the fuel to run a team and get his teammates going to make sure they are playing at a full effort level. He’s a silent leader. Well, I wish he had more fire, but you can’t blame him alone in this, because the one person you look toward in getting a team going to play is the person who is paid to do so because it is in his job description and that is Woodson, who, again, just has this laid back approach of not really getting the players going unlike most of the great, veteran coaches in this league.
So what is the point of this long ramble? Simply this: get rid of Woodson. Even if the Hawks manage to get out of this series, beat Orlando, then make it to the NBA finals, it doesn’t matter: let Woodson go. There are so many other coaches who would make use of the Hawks’ talent, make the necessary adjustments as a coach, fire the team up to make sure they are playing with their full efforts, and thus do the job an NBA coach should do. When you have a team as talented as the Hawks, they shouldn’t be losing to a team like the Bucks. As essentially every NBA analyst around the country predicted, the Hawks should sweep easily, maybe losing one game but that’s it. Many predicted that the Hawks over the Bucks would be the only sweep of the first round because it was the only team who was far more talented than the other team (AND that other team had its best player out due to injury). But just looking beyond this series, why do the Hawks always lose on the road, even to teams like Philly and Detroit who are going nowhere at the moment? Why do the Hawks lose games at home to teams like New York (TWICE!!) that they should easily handle? How come the Hawks can barely contend against teams like Cleveland and Orlando but then show up to easily take care of teams like the Lakers at home? Simply put, it’s because they are being out coached and out hustled. They don’t have the desire because (as Joe is a silent leader, and no one else will step up) the coach doesn’t put that desire in them. So, again, get rid of Woodson. I’m glad his record has improved over the years (due to the talent the front office put out on the court), but as long as he is around do you really see the Hawks overcoming teams like Orlando and Cleveland? I don’t. I can see it happening with the talent the Hawks have, easily, but I don’t see it with Woodson leading the group. Plus, Dwight Howard isn’t going anywhere. LeBron might, but it will most likely still be in the East either way. So if you want to get past these guys and their teams, get a new coach Hawks!
Rogie
April 29th, 2010
12:51 pm
Did anyone see the shot of the Hawks huddle during the timeout when they were determining whether Horford’s shot was a 3-pointer at the end? Nobody was paying attention to Woody. Half of them were staring at the officials at the scorer’s table waiting for the call. Some of them were walking around in circles. 10 seconds left and their season likely on the line and their heads aren’t even in the game.
Tim
April 29th, 2010
12:59 pm
To all of those idiots who think Josh Smith is the problem……..This is ridiculous……He has been THE most consistent all-around Forward on this Team and in the League……..YES, he shouldn’t jack up long shots, but if you have actually watched the Hawks this year, he hasn’t done it like he has in the past, and if you are actually watching the Bucks-Hawks series……..many of the passes Josh Smith has made this year, from the high post and such, he’s not getting the passing lanes against the Bucks defense………Smith and Horford play defense…They make it hard on any player coming through that lane….the Hawks guards don’t play ANY defense, plain & simple…………The problem with the Hawks is their coach. This Team has NO offensive scheme at ALL, and when they play a tough defensive team like the Bucks, their lack of offensive creativity, is exposed………This Team needs a new coach………and as good as Joe Johnson is……..let him go……because he has NO leadership qualities at all, and they won’t pay him Dwyane Wade type money………….
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kurt
April 29th, 2010
1:10 pm
FEAR THE DEER!!!
Big D
April 29th, 2010
1:26 pm
Anybody think the Hawks will win game 6 when they have a HORRID road playoff record needs their head examined. The fact of the matter is this series should be over with.
JJ is an overpaid #2 option. Josh Smith has his own agenda to the detriment of the team and shouldve been traded 2 years ago (he is not a unique player), AL continue to play C at 6′9 and Marvin Williams is mediocre at best.
Build a team around Crawford, trade JJ, Smith and let Teague run the point with Bibby coming off the bench. Get a quality center like Ty Chandler and move Al to PF…oh and find a coach to replace Woody like a Paul Silas or Byron Scott.
Game 6
April 29th, 2010
1:35 pm
The hawks were just flat and cocky in game 5—in Game 6, they’ll step it up and bring their A game–bank on it—hawks win in Milwaukee and force game 7!
JREX
April 29th, 2010
1:36 pm
Hawks offense=Isolate Joe or Watch Josh Jack 20 footers. PATHETIC.
The only answer for Jennings is Teague or West and they rarely get off the bench. Bibby can’t keep up with him, nor can Crawford. When the Hawks switch on defense it’s almost funny to watch the forwards chase him. You can almost hear them saying, “Hey would you slow down just a little?”
Whiskey Sports
April 29th, 2010
1:45 pm
Hawks fans I feel bad for you. I actually feel bad for your coach as well. Sure everyone wants him fired and I am sure he deserves it at this point. He has a very tough job trying to coach some of the egos your team employs. I don’t think there is a coach on this planet that can handle that group. Watching video of the timeouts / bench is really sad. Half of the Hawks literally were looking in a different direction and not paying attention. Yes the coach carries some blame on this one. But trying to coach players that feel they don’t need coaching….impossible. Same like Allen Iverson….even the great Larry Brown couldn’t get AI to listen. One rotten attitude can kill the efforts of a leader. That is why many great people lose their jobs in the real world….attitude. So…sure fire the coach…but you will never solve the problems with this team unless their attitudes change…I don’t see it. Good luck….we are very thankful that our management moved all the crap attitudes off the Bucks. We were riddled with them for years. Team chemistry is HUGE in basketball.
hatfieldgeoff
April 29th, 2010
1:54 pm
Bradley, this does not rank with any of the other sports calamities you mentioned because someone would have to care. I’m glad the Hawks have become relevant again but when they cannot compete with Orlando and Cleveland (either of those teams would sweep them just as the Cavs did last year), so it is hard to care that much about the first round. Yes it is embarassing that with much more talent they can’t win, but that just underscores the fact it is time to bring in a new coach. Thanks Woody but now they need someone who can X and O them to becoming a better team. Scott Skiles for instance would be a great choice if they could get him. He obviously can take less and win so what might he do with a lot more talent. He might even play his young players so he knows what he’s got.
I need booze..
April 29th, 2010
1:58 pm
I feel very bad for myself, I have stuck thru all the bad from all the teams in Atlanta, year in year out, and this loss REALLY feels the worst, how did we let them score 14 unanswered?
sam
April 29th, 2010
2:14 pm
All I can add is that instead of a signature win this was a signature loss.
IceColdATLien
April 29th, 2010
2:24 pm
Just kill me now
JeJe
April 29th, 2010
2:47 pm
LOL @ Joe taking 3’s sitting down before a pivotal game.
BUT ITS NEVER HSI FAULT
JeJe
April 29th, 2010
2:47 pm
WHENEVER JOE CALLS OUT THE TEAM, IT’S ALWAYS “WE.” FORGET THAT HE FOULED OUT OF A HOME PLAYOFF GAME. IT’S NEVER HIS GODDAMN FAULT — IT’S ALWAYS THE TEAM’S FAULT. HE DOESN’T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR !@#$
AND WOODY IS A MORON FOR NOT USING TEAGUE DURING THE YEAR. THE GUY HATES ROOKIE GUARDS
Big D
April 29th, 2010
2:56 pm
On a contender Josh Smith WOULD NOT be shooting 3’s….
WOW !!!!
April 29th, 2010
3:03 pm
WOW!!! The bucks are one of the few teams that have had more opportunities to get more lottery picks then the Hawks, and they are up 3-2 and probably will win the series and they come on our boards and brag and tell crappy jokes? You guys show so much class, of course your city is hyped up over this series because it has simply been so long since you have had a legitimate chance to make it to the second round, and even though you guys ( and the hawks as well if we make it) will get swept or at the very most will win one game over orlando in the next round you should feel proud of your accomplishments…however, like mentioned, you guys; similarly to the Hawks should have had the players to win a championship a long time ago!!! So what are you guys actually proving right now???? Is it fear the dear or fear the queeeeer????
WOW !!!!
April 29th, 2010
3:05 pm
WOW!!! The bucks are one of the few teams that have had more opportunities to get more lottery picks then the Hawks, and they are up 3-2 and probably will win the series and they come on our boards and brag and tell crappy jokes? You guys show so much class, of course your city is hyped up over this series because it has simply been so long since you have had a legitimate chance to make it to the second round, and even though you guys ( and the hawks as well if we make it) will get swept or at the very most will win one game over orlando in the next round you should feel proud of your accomplishments…however, like mentioned, you guys; similarly to the Hawks should have had the players to win a championship a long time ago!!! So what are you guys actually proving right now???? Is it fear the dear or fear the …..????
Billy D
April 29th, 2010
3:12 pm
Game 6 will either be: a.) A close game where the Hawks battle and don’t give up or execute poorly or b.) A MIL blowout. I’m sorry to say I’m leaning towards b. I think Skiles will be on his team’s a$$ and not let them go to a Game 7 is ATL. I really really hope I’m wrong and the Hawks will pull this one out
Chucktown38
April 29th, 2010
3:19 pm
Fire Woody, Bad coaching and player playing scared equals failure.
Old devil
April 29th, 2010
3:48 pm
HAWKS FANS: YOUR NEXT COACH IS ALREADY SITTING ON THE BENCH—–MARK PRICE! IF NOTHING ELSE, YOU WOULD BELIEVE THEY WOULD MAKE THEIR FOUL SHOTS…
Big D
April 29th, 2010
3:54 pm
Old devil
April 29th, 2010
3:48 pm
HAWKS FANS: YOUR NEXT COACH IS ALREADY SITTING ON THE BENCH—–MARK PRICE! IF NOTHING ELSE, YOU WOULD BELIEVE THEY WOULD MAKE THEIR FOUL SHOTS…
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Mark Price, Paul Silas, hell even Byron Scott. This team has gone as far as its gonna with Woody..
WOW !!!!
April 29th, 2010
4:33 pm
WOW!!! The bucks are one of the few teams that have had more opportunities to get more lottery picks then the Hawks, and they are up 3-2 and probably will win the series and they come on our boards and brag and tell crappy jokes? You guys show so much class, of course your city is hyped up over this series because it has simply been so long since you have had a legitimate chance to make it to the second round, and even though you guys ( and the hawks as well if we make it) will get swept or at the very most will win one game over orlando in the next round you should feel proud of your accomplishments…however, like mentioned, you guys; similarly to the Hawks should have had the players to win a championship a long time ago!!! So what are you guys actually proving right now???? Is it fear the dear or fear the *****????
A Milwaukee Resident
April 29th, 2010
5:56 pm
It’s very telling to me, a Milwaukee resident, who the truly classless individuals are. Those of you who have probably never even been to my city and insist on disrespecting us know who you are.
The Bucks are a TEAM. They play like a TEAM. There are no “superstars”. There are no individuals. There is a TEAM. And that concept wins in a TEAM sport all the time. I don’t care if you’re the #1 seed or the #8 seed, you live and die by your TEAM’s chemistry and willingness to work together.
Congrats on the fabulous season you had. Celebrate that. There are plenty people sitting home watching that don’t have a dog on this race.
Sconnie born&raised
April 29th, 2010
6:09 pm
Just finished reading through all 4 pages of this blog, just wanted to see how ATL fans were taking it. In a typical fashion, like any other fans from any sport, most people are calling for the coach’s head.
As an avid sports fan across multiple sports, I’d first like to say that I know exactly how you feel. The Bucks, for example, have finally started to amass talent that ISN’T that failure Michael Redd. To be completely honest, Redd is like a poor man’s JJ. Also, I know an unsure coach when I see one. Anyone know/remember Ned Yost? He was a lot like Woody. Had the skill set to develop a terrible team into one that makes opponents think twice. BUT, he had no idea what to do with a winning team, so we fired his ass. Woody is in very much the same boat, as far as I can see. He did a PHENOMINAL job turning around the woeful Hawks, but when the heat is on and the pressure rises, he doesn’t know what to call. Especially when his patented methods aren’t going as planned (ISO-JOE, for example). You still have to give him some props though, as he got you here. Would you rather be a 25-30-win team still?
Also, the Hawks are definitely one of the most talented teams this year. You guys have 4 starters who are long, lean, strong shot blockers with the skills to run the floor and make your jumpers when needed. I’m definitely proud of my Bucks for sticking with you guys. Skiles has shown that defensive prowess and hustle still have a place in this game.
Yes, we only have one favorable matchup (BJ-Bibby) and yes, we lost our star center three weeks ago, but we play the game that we need to. The only way to stop the Hawks is to prevent the transition game that you thrive on, crash the boards, and use speed to deal with your bigs, and we’ve done that. Skiles knew exactly what needed to be done, and taught his team such.
I’m not here to rip on ATL, its fans or its teams, but I honestly feel like your team is without a true leader. Your team comes across as selfish and fully dependent on it’s talent. That’s not a fault, per se, but still, the Hawks should’ve figured out during game 4 that they need to ball swing, and can’t just muscle us around. You know what won game 5 for us? The fantastic hustle of Ers and the team dynamics and IQ to make smart plays.
To be honest, I had hoped the Celtics would try at the end of the season so we could play them, as we never seemed to match up right against the Hawks. You guys gave us so much trouble all season long. Plus, I’d wanted to get a little revenge on Ray-ray, but that won’t happen this year.
All in all, my hat’s off to the Hawks for making it this far with some fantastic talent. Without bogues, we pretty much stand no chance next round, anyway, but the trip has sure been one hell of a ride!
Best of luck with the draft, offseason, and future years. See you in the playoffs next year?
One last thing, there’s no need to hate on the cities, they’re irrelevant to the game. Yes MKE sits on a dirty lake and is very blue-collar. But hey, we love our city all the same. Tons of bars, an awesome event grounds, the largest music festival in the world (Suck it Chi-town, Lolla’s no match for Summerfest), and some crazy cultural diversity. I’ve never been to ATL, but I’m sure its a great place. Personally, I’d find it too warm, and I love the winter, but thats just me.
Good Luck and much love,
Wisconsin fans.
hawks fan for life
April 29th, 2010
9:47 pm
this hawks team is very depressing to the fans. i have home game 1 second round tickets but i guess i will be turning those in tomorrow. im not ready for a depressing weekend. bucks have won these games fair. im sick of jj playing with no heart and woodson standing over there being stupid. now i hope we get d wade in the off-season. atl sports have been sorry for a long time this city deserves some titles from any sport.
BucksFan
April 30th, 2010
9:13 am
Fear the Deer!
1996 Choke
April 30th, 2010
3:32 pm
The choke against the yankees in 96 was the absolute worst, especially since I work with 2-3 very obnoxious new yorkers from the bronx and queens who talk yankee stuff all day—it was unbearable after that series.
Random
May 2nd, 2010
9:56 am
Mark Bradley: “The Hawks just blew a 13-point lead and probably a playoff series to Milwaukee, which is a No. 6 seed missing its All-Star center.”
“Probably???
Yer friggin useless.
Random
May 2nd, 2010
4:27 pm
An epic collapse.
Good call, Bradley.
KakNiqueTree
May 2nd, 2010
9:01 pm
Bucks Fan
April 29, 2010
1:07am
Yeah go jump in Lake Michigan after they lose
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hilarious stuff, have a nice summer. Fear the Deer (snort)
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