Live from Braves-Phillies: Guess who’s ‘tremendous-looking’?

Turner Field as of 5:30 p.m. EDT, April 20, 2010. (Gloomy photo by M. Bradley)

Turner Field as of 5:30 p.m. EDT, April 20, 2010. (Evocatively gloomy photo by M. Bradley)

Ryan Howard arrived in Philadelphia in September 2004. The next season he was the National League rookie of the year. Today he stands as the pillar of the club that even rivals concede is the model of excellence. As Brian McCann said Sunday: “The Phillies aren’t just the team in the National League East — the Phillies are the team in the National League.”

Charlie Manuel wasn’t managing the Phillies in 2004, but he arrived in 2005 and has been there since. And Manuel, who has become my favorite manager to hear speak, was asked today by an Atlanta correspondent (i.e., me)  if a big-hitting rookie can make a difference not just on a season but on the future of a franchise.

“A player like that brings excitement and energy,” Manuel said. “He brings a whole lot to a team and to a clubhouse.”

The obvious point of reference: Jason Heyward. He’s not yet Ryan Howard — there’s a difference of 222 big-league homers — but he’s the most exciting rookie to emerge since the Philly big man.

Manuel on Heyward: “He’s a highly talented kid. He’s a tremendous athlete. He can do about everything you want a guy to do.”

And he can: Heyward is, to use the scout’s jargon, a five-tool player. Howard, on the other hand, is the classic big-hitting first baseman: He can’t run much, but he hits ‘em so far he gets to trot. Heyward might never have a 40-homer season. (Howard has had four in succession.) Then again, Heyward isn’t apt to strike out 180 times a year, either.

They’re different kinds of players, but the Braves would be delighted if Heyward had a Howard-like effect. Since 1995 the Braves’ batting order has been anchored by Chipper Jones, and he’ll turn 38 this Saturday. The best-case scenario: Heyward and his minor-league buddy Freddie Freeman become to this organization as Howard and Chase Utley are for Philadelphia — middle-of-the-order fixtures.

Asked if, way back when, Howard energized the Phillies with both his production and his presence, Manuel said: “Without a doubt. And he still carries that.”

The Phillies and Braves embarked Tuesday on the first of their three-game set at Turner Field , and the home side having the point to prove. The Phils have won the NL East three seasons running; the Braves haven’t made the playoffs since 2005. The Phils have graced each of the past two World Series, winning it in 2008; the Braves haven’t reached the Fall Classic since 1999, haven’t won a World Series game since 1996.

The Phils still have a deeper well of big-league talent, but the Braves are perkier than they’ve been in year. And that, we must say, isn’t because of Troy Glaus. It’s due to No. 22.

This is baseball, where one player isn’t supposed to make a difference. But Ryan Howard showed us the right man can indeed make a difference. Through two weeks, Jason Heyward has made a difference here. He entered Tuesday’s game with 15 RBIs, one more than the fearsome Howard. (Who did, it must be noted, drive in his 15th run of 2010 with a fourth-inning hit off the mitt of the forlorn Glaus.)

Yes, it’s premature to liken any 20-year-old to Ryan Howard. But it’s almost inevitable, and it’s great fun. It has been more than a decade since the Joneses, Chipper and Andruw, made their debuts. We in Atlanta were way overdue for the next big thing.

And with that, we’ll open the floor for questions, comments and weather forecasts. The Braves believe they’ll be able to get this game in, but I should note that the ground crew put the tarp back on the infield after the home team took batting practice. (No live BP on the field for the visitors, in sum.) It’s not raining now, but the tarp’s advent generally means sprinkles are on the way.

Whatever happens, I’ll be here all night to discuss it. Though I sincerely hope I won’t be here all night, if you take my meaning.

UPDATE: At 5:39 p.m., it started raining. Hard.

UP-TO-THE-MINUTE UPDATE: At 6:12 p.m., the rain has ceased and the sun is shining and the tarp has been lifted. Yay!

628 comments Add your comment

extremus

April 20th, 2010
8:08 pm

Hopefully the Braves can manage to take at least two out of these three games, though a sweep would obviously be even sweeter. But right now I have to confess the Phillies’ lineup top to bottom is so far much more consistent and productive than the Braves’. We have just too many hot hitters being followed by one or two ice-cold hitters, and overall our power numbers are hurting. Combined this makes it really hard to put many runs on the board, which has hurt us early in the season.

I believe the Braves will feature a different look throughout their lineup by the end of the season, almost certainly. Probably two and maybe even three guys (Cabrera, Glaus, McClouth, to be specific) will lose their everyday jobs if they don’t start contributing offensively in a positive way, and Chipper and Escobar have so far struggled as well. The team just can’t sit back and let a third of the order be that much of a liability for too long, or we won’t be in the race come August and September.

All that said, there’s hope as long as the Braves can somehow stay close to the top in the NL East. If that happens, hopefully management will address the needed issues before the trade deadline to get the Braves playing again in October.

Zach

April 20th, 2010
8:08 pm

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:08 pm

Official scorer Mike Stamus calls it a base hit.

Ed

April 20th, 2010
8:08 pm

Suppose to let the 2nd baseman get that ball

Youngerthan Thatnow

April 20th, 2010
8:08 pm

Top of the 4th… this is how you win divisions and pennants… every ball falls your way.

Zach

April 20th, 2010
8:09 pm

No way that’s a hit.

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:09 pm

Big double play. Kills the chance of a big inning. That’s what good pitchers do.

We_Run_This_Country

April 20th, 2010
8:09 pm

damage control…get out of this with one run and we’ll be fine

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:09 pm

Hanson: 71 pitches to record 11 outs.

todd grantham

April 20th, 2010
8:10 pm

Mark, is that the famous al ford behind the plate?

Ed

April 20th, 2010
8:10 pm

Now if the ump will start calling balls balls and strikes strikes for us, maybe we can score a run

Zach

April 20th, 2010
8:10 pm

MB,

Hawks look ok. Thoughts from first half?

Mtn Brave

April 20th, 2010
8:11 pm

I ain’t gonna lie. Glaus sucks.

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:11 pm

By the way, I thought the pitch that Castro stuck out on in the second was close.

Mtn Brave

April 20th, 2010
8:11 pm

Hawks looked decent. Gotta keep up the momentum. Hanson will have 100 pitches by the sixth.

Youngerthan Thatnow

April 20th, 2010
8:12 pm

Hanson’s officially getting squeezed now too. Like I said… the teams toting the hardware usually get the borderline calls… just the way it is.

Sperm Whale… largest animal on earth and is throat is about the size of your pinky finger… know why that is? Cause that’s just the way it is… same with the borderline calls.

Zach

April 20th, 2010
8:12 pm

by the 5th you mean

Biff

April 20th, 2010
8:12 pm

Inning still alive. I guess that was what good pitchers do.

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:13 pm

How big is that DP Werth hit into?

todd grantham

April 20th, 2010
8:13 pm

who will exit first, cox or hanson?

Scott from Fairburn

April 20th, 2010
8:13 pm

Mr. Hanson is only appearing tonight in a limited engagment …

We_Run_This_Country

April 20th, 2010
8:13 pm

YT,
you are wiser than your years

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:14 pm

No way I give Carlos Ruiz anything good here.

Biff

April 20th, 2010
8:14 pm

Yes very lucky it was right at Chipper and he didn’t bobble it. 9/10 it’s a hit

Zach

April 20th, 2010
8:14 pm

Hason is not deceptive with his pitches, he’s used to overpowering hitters. The phils can hit the straight ball, tommy maybe needs to stick to the breaking stuff more.

todd grantham

April 20th, 2010
8:15 pm

ever notice how close stamus is backwards to sumstats or werth is to threw? fruedian?

todd grantham

April 20th, 2010
8:16 pm

zach, i agree. batters may have caught up with him this year.

Mtn Brave

April 20th, 2010
8:17 pm

100 by this inning lol

Biff

April 20th, 2010
8:17 pm

What’s that pitch count now? 70

todd grantham

April 20th, 2010
8:18 pm

no way you can consider brook whitmire more annoying than don sutton.

Biff

April 20th, 2010
8:18 pm

And here comes either a walk or double

Youngerthan Thatnow

April 20th, 2010
8:18 pm

WRTC… my son at 29 says that I’m a lot smarter now than I was when he was 17… I don’t know.

The Real UT

April 20th, 2010
8:18 pm

Pitch count is almost 90, and most of them have been fastballs.

Tom

April 20th, 2010
8:18 pm

How many pitches against this wimp? Sheesh

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April 20th, 2010
8:19 pm

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Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:19 pm

Nine-pitch AB for Ruiz. But Hanson strikes him out.

Zach

April 20th, 2010
8:19 pm

Its not even about catching up to him. It’s just the fact that the fast ball is 95 but straight. He’s still developing his breaking stuff, which is why he’s going to be great, but with these hitters you have to throw some nasty pitches and not just fastballs.

Howard and Utley can hit 96 all day long. Werth too.

Ed

April 20th, 2010
8:19 pm

Nice pitch hanson

Youngerthan Thatnow

April 20th, 2010
8:20 pm

Hanson’s last pitch of the 4th was his best… I think he’s PO’ed. That’s good pitching to get out of that with just one run scored though…

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:20 pm

Hanson: 88 pitches in four innings.

Give the Phils credit for working the count. When the game starts with a 10-pitch AB, you’re looking at a long evening.

The Real UT

April 20th, 2010
8:21 pm

He ain’t ever gonna beat the Phils if he can’t go more than 5 or 6 innings.

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:22 pm

Kendrick at 33 pitches through three innings.

Zach

April 20th, 2010
8:22 pm

yeah he can, 5 innings enough to qualify for a win. lol

jwill

April 20th, 2010
8:23 pm

is it to early for the fire penelton chants

The Real UT

April 20th, 2010
8:23 pm

Hopefully the Braves are more patient this time through.

jwill

April 20th, 2010
8:24 pm

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todd grantham

April 20th, 2010
8:24 pm

Mark, looks like a typhoon is headed for the staduim.

We_Run_This_Country

April 20th, 2010
8:24 pm

Chipper needs to turn it on…is he batting .200 yet?

The Real UT

April 20th, 2010
8:24 pm

Not if the Braves don’t score before he leaves!

Mark Bradley

April 20th, 2010
8:24 pm

Two hits for Prado. No hits for any other Brave.