Bradley’s Buzz: The verdict on UGA’s and Tech’s signees
Understand: I don’t believe Georgia’s recruiting class was a disaster, and I’ve already written as much. But even those who insist recruiting rankings don’t mean anything are duty-bound to check them out. And here, as a public service, they are:
• ESPN.com has Georgia 12th nationally and sixth in the SEC.
• Rivals.com has Georgia 16th nationally and sixth in the SEC.
• Scout.com has Georgia 21st nationally and seventh in the SEC.
For most of Signing Day, ESPN was the only site that had the Bulldogs in the Top 10, but they slid out come sundown. Neither ESPN nor Rivals ranked any Georgia signee a 5-star player; Scout awards safety Alec Ogletree of Newnan five stars.
In five years of compiling recruiting ratings, ESPN ranked Georgia No. 13 in 2007 but in its top six the other three years. As noted early Wednesday, Rivals hadn’t rated the Bulldogs lower than 10th since 2001, when Mark Richt had been on the job barely two months. (They were likewise 16th then.) Scout had Georgia No. 15 in 2007 and No. 11 in 2003 but it its Top Ten every other year since 2001.
For comparison’s sake, here’s where the three sites ranked Georgia Tech: 43rd nationally according to Rivals, 41st according to Scout and nowhere nationally according to ESPN, which only assigns numbers to its Top 25. The Worldwide Leader did have Tech sixth in the ACC and assigned it a letter grade of B-minus. (Link requires registration.)
Georgia’s letter grade, as assigned by ESPN’s Scouts Inc.? A B-plus. (Link requires registration.)
Oh, and one curiosity: The Bulldogs dropped from 15th to 16th as per Rivals because they signed wide receiver Lonnie Outlaw of Wilcox County, whom Rivals adjudges a 2-star recruit. Then again, Tim Jennings arrived at Georgia a 2-star recruit, and he’ll be playing in the Super Bowl come Sunday. More about Jennings and signees and impact freshmen is available in this post. So y’all come back, ya hear?
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Brandon from Warner Robins
February 3rd, 2010
10:57 pm
Another good read, MB. Thanks. I’ll be back.
Reid Adair
February 3rd, 2010
10:58 pm
I have never put much credence in player and class rankings. Sure, talent helps, but it’s also possible for coaches to turn 2- and 3-star players in to college stars. I heard earlier today that both Tim Tebow and Colt McCoy were 3-star players coming out of high school.
Mark Bradley
February 3rd, 2010
10:59 pm
I know you will, Brandon. Thanks. And kudos.
Beware of the junkyard dawg
February 3rd, 2010
11:01 pm
Dos
Mark Bradley
February 3rd, 2010
11:03 pm
Tebow was a 5-star recruit according to Rivals, Reid. McCoy was a 3-star player.
Stan Diego
February 3rd, 2010
11:04 pm
Enter your comments here
Stan Diego
February 3rd, 2010
11:06 pm
Look on the bright side, Mark – you won’t have to type “Da’Rick” nearly as much for the next few years.
Good, grind-it-out win for the Hawks tonight over a tough Clipper team.
Mark Bradley
February 3rd, 2010
11:07 pm
I listened to the Hawks game on the way home from Athens. Even Marvin had a double-double, as I understand it.
Stan Diego
February 3rd, 2010
11:07 pm
Look on the bright side, Mark – you won’t have to type “Da’Rick” nearly as often for the next few years.
Good, grind-it-out win for the Hawks tonight over a tough Clipper team.
Another Dawg
February 3rd, 2010
11:07 pm
Reid: Not true. Colt McCoy was a 3 star by Rivals, Tebow was 5.
Beware of the junkyard dawg
February 3rd, 2010
11:09 pm
Mr. Rogers, Rambo will be waiting for you next year in Athens between the hedges…
Regards,
The Dawg Nation
Brandon from Warner Robins
February 3rd, 2010
11:09 pm
Too bad Colt didn’t get a chance to play in the National Championship game. Terrible end to a great career.
New Study Proves Rivals Team Rankings INEPT!
February 3rd, 2010
11:11 pm
A new study done by Birmingham News analyzed the top 25 teams in recruiting by their rvials.com team recruiting score from 2005-2009.
In other words, 5 straight years of recruiting top classes ACCORDING TO THE EXPERTS AT RIVALS (HA!).
Results:
12 finished unranked in 2009
7 didn’t finish in the top 10 in 2009
6 finished in the top 10 for 2009
Conclusion:
Rivals cannot evaluate talent AT ALL!!!!
hERE’S THE STUDY:
http://blog.al.com/solomon/2010/02/many_top-ranked_signing_classe.html
GT Fan
February 3rd, 2010
11:12 pm
Recruiting ratings make for great conversation between us fans, but if they are a true measure of where a program should be then CMR is not getting the job done. Watch out for the Jackets, with a good defense we will be very difficult to beat. CPJ knows how to build a team to win championships!!
DR.J
February 3rd, 2010
11:12 pm
A lot of very good athletes out there right now Mark , but unfortunately for the Dawgs there has been somewhat of a coaching black hole in Athens. Hope that can change but the next couple of years will be critical as far as slipping back into the pack or elevating a program to challenge for the SEC ..maybe more than X’s and O’s…type of player, overall philosphy, etc…
Go Dogs Go!
February 3rd, 2010
11:13 pm
Feels like Santa took left coal in my stocking. Mark Brandley, I’m very distressed about the phenomenal recruiting classes signed by Georgia’s rivals, in comparison to the “solid, but not spectacular” class signed by Richt. Why so many misses, defections, and inability to bring southern football stars to Athens? Will Richt’s regime crumble faster than this class? Please give me something to hang my hat on before I throw it away!
Go Dogs Go!
Go Dogs Go!
February 3rd, 2010
11:13 pm
minus “took” from the first sentence.
New Study Proves Rivals Player Rankings INEPT!
February 3rd, 2010
11:16 pm
the new study proved that 61% of this year’s 1st team All-Americans were NOT ranked in the top 10 in their position by rivals.com
In other words, Rivals.com is right about 39% of the time on exceptional talent, WRONG about 61% of the time about exceptional talent.
In other words, 61% chance guys like Da’ Rick will never live up to his potential!
Here’s the study:
http://blog.al.com/solomon/2010/02/many_top-ranked_signing_classe.html
Robert
February 3rd, 2010
11:16 pm
GT Fan maybe one day he will know how to build one the can win a bowl game and beat bowl eligible out of conference teams. Until he does that he’s done nothing.
Mark Bradley
February 3rd, 2010
11:17 pm
If this is the worst recruiting Georgia ever does — and I’m using the word “worst” advisedly — I’d say the Bulldogs are in good shape. As Rodney Garner said Wednesday, this year was “challenging.”
Give me Heart
February 3rd, 2010
11:17 pm
I look at this way so we have had top ten classes in the last 7 or 8 years and where exactly has that gotten us….Matthew Stafford who was overrated and had about half the heart David Green or David Pollack had and had his eyes on the NFL even before he got to ATHENS….Give me a team full of David Greens and David Pollacks any day of the week….Knowshon was great but was gone in two years when the Cody, Tebow, McCoy and others actually felt some loyalty to their schools. Recruiting is pure hype of course you want as many Stars as you can get but give me a 2 to 3 star anyday of the week with tons of heart over a 5 star who is selfish and immature like many of the players that have seem to come through Athens in the past few years. How many stars was Hines Ward? In the NFL he has Hall of Fame Stars….
Brandon from Warner Robins
February 3rd, 2010
11:19 pm
Does anyone know what happened with Nickell Robey?
Go Dogs Go!
February 3rd, 2010
11:22 pm
Dude went out to USC. He’s a left coaster now.
three jack
February 3rd, 2010
11:23 pm
when are you folks going to wake up? today’s players don’t get stoked about playing in an 80s style offense with about as much creativity as dominique wilkins calling a hawks game (love ya nique, but broadcasting skills have not improved).
in the end, da’rick rogers won’t really matter. but his last minute flip continues a disturbing trend of UGA being dis’d by coaches and recruits.
wake up mark richt!
Brandon from Warner Robins
February 3rd, 2010
11:23 pm
Go Dogs Go!,
Much appreciated.
Go Dogs Go!
February 3rd, 2010
11:24 pm
Speaking of USC: Mark Brandley- how will Lame Kiffin fare in the Pac 10? And, which members of the 2010 recruiting class will compete for immediate PT at UGA?
GTSteve
February 3rd, 2010
11:26 pm
After watching PJ’s meltdowns in 2 consecutive bowl games and losing to a really bad UGA team, I’m starting to wonder. The ACC is not a good measure of a football team as evidenced by our sorry end of year performances. And the ACC title game was even won against a 5 loss football team. PJ hasn’t proven anything up to now. Anything less than another ACC title and a BCS bowl win in PJ’s 3rd year with his players will be unacceptable. If that doesn’t happen PJ has done nothing more than talk big and produce little.
Brandon from Warner Robins
February 3rd, 2010
11:26 pm
Lane Kiffen wasn’t going to fare well in the SEC. He’s better off at USC where I think he’ll find more success. Pac-10 is no SEC.
The Grinch
February 3rd, 2010
11:28 pm
The sky isn’t falling. The dawgs will be fine. Once we show the defense is back this year the next class will be more in line with what we’re used to and this one wasn’t that bad. Obviously, Martinez hurt us off the field as well as on, but his stench will have cleared away by this time next year.
SST
February 3rd, 2010
11:28 pm
Makes you wonder why the NFL keeps running it huh three jack? Could it be because they know something that you don’t?
Go Dogs Go!
February 3rd, 2010
11:30 pm
Maybe I should re-phrase my question to Mark Brandley:
This is what I want to know- How can UGA gain ground on teams that whipped their tails (UF and Tennessee), when those same adversaries are also kicking CMR’s backside in recruiting? And, in the process picking some of Georgia’s finest football players out of the state, to add insult to debauchery, or something like that.
Michael Dawgs for life
February 3rd, 2010
11:30 pm
I can’t say that I’m extremely happy with the recruiting class this year but considering all of the coaching changes and lack of winning this year I can’t say I’m upset with it
Richt Figured It Out!
February 3rd, 2010
11:31 pm
I think Richt figured it out this year.
He completely ignored the rivals gsame, because he had proven by painful experience, rivals is clueless at evaluating talent.
So, he went with a lot of 3 and 4 star guys that HE and HIS STAFF reaLly liked and thought were guys with BIG UPSIDE.
61% chance Richt picked the RIGHT STRATEGY and OUTSMARTED URBAN MEYER.
Jl
February 3rd, 2010
11:34 pm
Matt Ryan was a 3 star and was rated the 25th best qb out of high school via rivals, the only other qb to become a starter out that class in the NFL was Joe flacco, he was number 40. Prob about 7 out of the top 10 never even started a full season in college.
Joseph Stone
February 3rd, 2010
11:36 pm
MB, everybody keeps touting GT and Paul Johnson in spite of their 2 consecutive end of season debacles. And these were not just losses they were embarrassments. 10 offensive points in 2 games is humiliating for a team that was supposedly such an offensive juggernaut. Johnson’s offense has been totaling incapable of controlling the football in those games leading to a cumulative score of 63-17. Mark Bradley those games don’t lie. What will you be saying about Paul Johnson if next year it happens again. Will he be no more than a good coach that can’t get it done when it matters the most like so many want to say about Mark Richt. Richt won the SEC, a BCS bowl, and finished #3 in the nation in his 2nd year. Paul Johnson fails miserably in crunch time yet you have practically deified the guy. Go figure.
Rivals Proven WRONG 75% Of The Time!
February 3rd, 2010
11:37 pm
When it comes to team rankings, Rivals.com will predict the WRONG TEAM about 75% of the time.
When it comes to players, Rivals.com’s predictions are WRONG about 61% of the time.
Here’s the study:
http://blog.al.com/solomon/2010/02/many_top-ranked_signing_classe.html
Go Dogs Go!
February 3rd, 2010
11:38 pm
I’m less concerned about stars than I am about numbers. Richt needed to fill this class up. Instead, he gained just 18+ a GMC bound athlete. This class should have been about adding depth to key positions and preparing for the departure of AJ Green, by adding 1 or 2 stellar WRs. Instead, the class seems incomplete. I could be wrong. But, I rarely am. Ha.
EastCobbVol
February 3rd, 2010
11:38 pm
I can say that I’m extremely happy with the recruiting class this year and considering all of the coaching changes I also can’t say that I’m upset with it. As a matter of fact I’m thrilled.
CDD and his new staff should be very proud of what they have accomplished in 2 weeks.
Mark, thanks to you and Chip for the fair reporting and I have a feeling that this year will just add to what’s already a great rivialy with the Dawgs!
Jl
February 3rd, 2010
11:42 pm
Gt Steve,
Paul Johnson has produced little? He wins the acc, beats ga after 7 straight loses and plays in 2 new years day bowls, one being a bcs. Yeah maybe we can bring back chan gailey and go 7-5 every year, at least he could recruit a little and his offense looked good while we were losing.
ESPN Kiss of Death
February 3rd, 2010
11:44 pm
No team who has finished #1 in recruiting on ESPN has EVER gone on to win the National Championship the next year.
Florida is the lucky winner of the ESPN Kiss of Death Award.
Big Dawg Bite
February 3rd, 2010
11:45 pm
A kid can be a 5-Star recruit coming out of high school. But on the first day of practice, he may get his bell rung and turn into an instant baby. Coach, I don’t think this game of football is for me anymore. Can I be release from my scholarship? Whoop there it is, a transfer to another school. From there, he quits school and ends up riding on back of a trash truck. Here’s your 5-Star recruit.
GTgrad81
February 3rd, 2010
11:47 pm
We are still very thin even after 3 years of PJ’s recruiting. A backs and B backs out the wazoo but nothing to brag about on either line and now Joseph Gilbert may be gone. Does PJ still not get it after having his butt handed to him in 2 bowls that it’s the big uglies that win the big games. We will never be a force outside the ACC with linemen that know nothing but diving at an opponents ankles. We are not bringing in the kind of O linemen that can withstand the big, strong, defensive fronts of some of our future opponents.
Mark Bradley
February 3rd, 2010
11:50 pm
I’ll try to answer the question about impact freshmen tomorrow morning. As for Lane Kiffin … he’ll have to coach somebody eventually, and I don’t know if he can manage.
GT Fan...
February 3rd, 2010
11:50 pm
GT Steve … PJ’s obviously doing something right b/c in just 2 seasons he’s got you stating that anything less than an ACC title AND a BCS bowl win will be unacceptable.
And I’d argue that the ACC in past 2 seasons has been overall better & more competitive than during Gailey’s entire tenure, and Gailey had a DC that could stop people on many occassions. In Gailey’s entire 0-6 run vs ga how many times did that offensive genius’ teams score more than 17 pts?? The answer you’re looking for is ZERO. PJ’s teams, with their so-called “high school offense” have managed 45 & 24 pts.
Relax and stop being a pessimist. PJ’s got the program moving in the right direction. This ain’t his first rodeo.
GT Fan
February 3rd, 2010
11:51 pm
Well said JI. Give CPJ some more bulk up front on the lines and more talent on D and watch out!
Go Dogs Go!
February 3rd, 2010
11:52 pm
Mitch Bradley, If my name was Vince Donley and my son Da’rick Donley was coach at UT, should I give up my office at UGA? Let’s be real. I’ve got a good view of the practice field and unlimited access to the program. Does that create a conflict of interest?
GTgrad81
February 3rd, 2010
11:53 pm
Jl he didn’t beat UGA this year with the best GT team since 1990 and his offense got humiliated in the Orange Bowl. Face it. We beat a 5 loss team to win the ACC in a year when half the league finished under .500. GTSteve is right. PJ really hasn’t proven anything up to this point. He needs to start winning at the end of the year when it counts. This 3rd year is pivotal. If he can’t do it in 2010 he never will and we need to be objective about that. The rest of the ACC isn’t going to just stand around and not get better either. We are staring the possibility of finishing 3rd in the Coastal in 2010 in what should be Paul Johnson’s break out year.
GTgrad81
February 3rd, 2010
11:55 pm
GT Fan, PJ himself has said his offense won’t work with bulkier offensive linemen. We are in somewhat of a catch 22 in that regard.
Go Dogs Go!
February 3rd, 2010
11:56 pm
No, I am not Jeff Schultz.
Is a 5 Star Coachable?
February 3rd, 2010
11:57 pm
61% of 5 star players are not coachable.
Terrell Owens types.
61% will NOT become an ALL-AMERICAN.
P.S. My guess is 90%, not just 61%, of Rivals top 100 will never be drafted in the NFL. I’d say 95% will never become an NFL Pro Bowler.
Hey Bradley, win a Pulitzer, study this relationship between top 100 picks and NFL success.
Here’s the 61% study of All-Americans:
http://blog.al.com/solomon/2010/02/many_top-ranked_signing_classe.html
GTgrad81
February 4th, 2010
12:00 am
You can’t wish away or explain away those bowl games GT Fan. If Pj’s offense can’t stay on the field we can’t beat good football teams. PJ’s offense has scored 10 pts in 2 bowls. Forget UGA. Winning the ACC gets you 0 respect.
Coaching a 5 Star Like Arguing With a Lawyer
February 4th, 2010
12:03 am
Lawyers generally are extremely intelligent. Most know it. It’s hard ot win an argument wiht the lawyer because they KNOW how smart they are.
5 stars are the SAME WAY.
Ask Marlon Brown. Ouch!
Ibleedgold
February 4th, 2010
12:07 am
GT fan we are a long way from having the talent and depth on D that can protect an offense that can’t pull it’s weight against good ooc teams. Did some of you even watch those games? You just totally ignore the offensive issues we have against bowl eligibe ooc teams. And we can’t pass a lick. We can’t complete passes against air. There are issues that some of you fans are blind to. PJ has had 2 years and we still have what? 2 pass plays.
foxandcoon
February 4th, 2010
12:12 am
Your aside about signing Lonnie Outlaw and therefore losing a spot just illustrates how stupid the rankings are…
BlackWatch
February 4th, 2010
12:14 am
Some of you are bowing down at the alter for PJ because he says what you want to hear. It was Paul Johnson that lost the UGA game with his 1:46 panic attack. Paul got thoroughly out coached in that game and he got out coached in the Iowa game. He got outcoached against LSU as well. Wake up folks. He talks a good game but his results at crunch time don’t back that talk up.
BlackWatch
February 4th, 2010
12:18 am
Paul needs to back up the talk in 2010. He has his players. He has 2 previous recruiting classes that were heavily red shirted. His guys. If he doesn’t get it done this year he won’t ever sniff another opportunity for even an ACC title.
longtimedawgfan
February 4th, 2010
12:52 am
make no mistake about it dawg fans, Mark Bradley, a true blue Kentucky fan and ardent critic of all things UGA was very pleased with what he happily perceived as a sub-par recruiting class…. I think that this class is filled with kids of very high competitive quality and will work very hard to prove to everyone else that the UGA coaches knew what they wer doing ….the only reason Mark Bradley does not return to Lexington is because he can do the Wildcats more good by spreading his poison in the Atlanta sports market….
Paul in RDU
February 4th, 2010
12:59 am
Wow – quite a bit of negativity on here from some people proclaiming themselves to be GT fans.
GT is coming off a 2 year period with the most wins since the early 1950’s and you’d think that Bill Lewis was back on the sidelines. Yep – GT lost badly to LSU and Iowa but they are a long way from the days of accepting mediocrity under Gailey and Braine.
As far as recruiting rankings are concerned – talent IS important. Desire and hard work in college, not to mention coaching, are also important. Rivals and its ilk can’t predict how players will develop. The best defensive player in the history of Wake Forest was a 2 star – he was the #4 draft pick in 2009. The QB with the best record as a starter at UGA was a 3 star. Marcus Vick was highly ranked and we know how that turned out.
biggbuzz
February 4th, 2010
1:00 am
Paul Johnson
UGA 1-1
ACC Championship
14 Million Dollar BCS BOWL
in two years?
Come on Guys you sound like the RETARDS at UGA!!!
patrick
February 4th, 2010
1:06 am
biggbuzz
UNDER Richt
Vs. SEC foes: 43-22
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Vs. Top 25 foes: 29-18
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Vs. Top 25 foes away from home: 18-12
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Vs. Top 10 foes: 8-6
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In postseason games (bowls and championships): 9-3
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In games decided by a touchdown or less: 34-14
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Record at home: 47-9
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Record on the road: 27-6
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Losses to unranked teams: 6
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Top 25 finishes: 8
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Top 10 finishes: 6
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Fact:………UGA was 12-1 in 2002 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Fla was 12-1 in 2006 (prior to bowl selections)
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Fact ………Not UGAs fault there were 2 unbeatens that year. “unlucky”
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Fact……….Not Flas credit that there was only one unbeaten in 2006. “Lucky”
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Fact:………Luck not merit had more to do with Fla getting invited to the BCS than whether Fla was more deserving to go to a NC with identical records.
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Fact:………No SEC team has ever lost a NC game and if UGA would have been invited nothing indicates that it would have been different
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Fact……….UGA has 2 SEC titles..same as Fla in last 9 years and equal amount of total wins over all.
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Fact……….UGA has been ranked more times top ten in last 9 years than any SEC team.
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Fact……….UGA 90 wins in 9 years no other SEC team has more.
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Fact………..UGA has 2 SEC titles…same as Fla
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Fact………..UGA has won 4 str8 bowls….more than any other SEC team.
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Fact……..UGA has won 11 of last 13 bowls…more than any team tied with LSU and more than FLA
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Fact…… UGA has won 8 or more games in last 13 years…more than any other team.
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Fact…… UGA has been ranked more times in top ten than any SEC team over last 9 years.
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Fact…….UGA is clearly as good or better than any SEC team over last 9 years. Only a fool or a fan of the mythical BCSNC selection process (non playoff) would think otherwise.
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Fact…….Coach Mark Richt in 9 seasons at UGA:
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Fact…….UGA had same record when they won the SEC title in 2002 as Fla did in 2006/8 when they won the SEC title. But UGA had the misfortune (luck) to have that record in a year that had 2 other teams with undefeated records.
Hardly an indictment on UGA but rather on the NC selection process.
6 times finished in the top 10
2 times finished in the top 3
3 SEC Championship Appearances
2 SEC Titles
3 BCS Bowls
2 Sugar Bowl wins
90-27 record over 8 seasons – 79% winning percentage (one of only 7 in the history of college ball to have ever accomplished this)
4 str8 bowl wins
7-2 in bowls (big games)
Mark Richt coached QB coach for Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke = 2 Heismans; Head Coach for David Greene = all time winningest college QB until Colt McCoy this year); and coached Matthew Stafford = very rich #1 draft pick)
No Probations
He has my respect.
Period.
Paul Johnson who??
Paul in RDU
February 4th, 2010
1:15 am
Wow Patrick – What has Richt’s excellent record got to do with Paul Johnson’s record?
Did you look all of that up and type it or do you keep it all in a file and copy paste?
Paul in RDU
February 4th, 2010
1:19 am
Patrick
<<>>
Seems to me FLA has made their own luck in Jacksonville on a few occasions.
Likewise BAMA made their own luck in 2009 by winning all of their games.
dagrapevine
February 4th, 2010
2:26 am
lonnie outlaw is the sleeper out of the entire class of players recruited from ga.this kid is 6′-5″ 180lbs and is flat out fast.he may in fact be the best wideout in the state this year,but playing in wilcox co. he just didnt get the press some of the others had.i bet his qb at wilcox will be at uga next year and some say he may be one of the top qb’s in the country.wouldnt be surprised to see outlaw opposite of aj some this year i think he’s that good.
we put way too much stock in these recruiting services.here’s how they rank these classes.they take the number of players recruited and add up their cumlative star ranking.uga signed 18 players.depending on whose service you go with for the most part they where split 50/50 on 4/3 star rated players.if uga had signed rogers(a 5 star)and 2 more 4 star players they would have been a top 8 class.they had committments from players to have made that ranking.most fill rogers fliped and went to tenn cause his buddy got a last second offer.the 2 kids in fla say wm getting fired changed everything for them.now would you want wm to still be at uga and those players coming to get a higher rated class or would you prefer what transpired and granthan hired as the new dc?
granthan will sell his i can get you prepared to play in the nfl if you come to uga speech ready for next year and i bet you’ll see uga have a class like fla coming in on the d side of the ball.
fla.ala.aub.,ole miss and sc signed 25 or more players this year.they should have been higher ranked based on that alone.next year uga can sign 25 or more players and the talent level in ga. alone next year is down right scairy.
mark it down,jay rome out of valdosta will be one of,if not the most sought after player in the country.cmr and crg need to camp out on this kids door step.he’s the next orson charles type player and he’s taller(6′6″-242lbs)and fast with soft hands.this kid could be a dual athlete since he’s a great baketball player also.i’m sure mf wouldn’t mind sharing him with fb.same could be said about outlaw too.
mark
February 4th, 2010
3:31 am
I did an informal study and looked at Rivals and Scout for the last 4 years giving a point for ranking …so lower means better and then added the two totals together..again lower is better…..there was a tie over the last 4 years between LSU and Alabama with Florida third….needless to say the last four National Champions …those rankings do matter…
MalibuGT
February 4th, 2010
3:54 am
congrats to CPJ and this group of incoming freshmen! Looking forward to defending our championship and revenge in Athens.
Congrats to UGA for its recruiting class as well. As someone noted earlier, sometimes have hungry 2-3 stars who stay and develop is better than 5’s who leave.
MalibuGT
February 4th, 2010
3:56 am
Paul, i think the same dog poster is on here with several GT handles going after CPJ. Any true fan who suffered under the 7-5 years of playing in the emerald bowl and on the blue turf knows the improvement we’ve already accomplished under CPJ
Concerned about the Dawgs
February 4th, 2010
4:03 am
I’m concerned about the direction of the Georgia Bulldogs. It would seem that Coach Richt and the Georgia staff have lost their drive and their edge. Stars do mean something. It was a tough year but I’m not sure it was just the coaching change. The Georgia program don’t have fire and passion and a determination I’ve seen in the past. Coach Richt has made changes and it’s up to him as head coach to bring the fire. I’m disappointed in the level of this year’s recruits. We missed some big time talent (especially in Georgia). With lesser talent it will take greater coaching. I’m not sure we’ve really got great coaches. I love CMR but I am concerned.
Other programs are surging (Fla/Ala/Tenn/Auburn) and we seem to be falling behind. How do you feel?
Bigstack O' Pancakes. It is an Irish name.
February 4th, 2010
4:03 am
Maybe these players will get coached up at Georgia. Who am I kidding. I might as well follow Da’Rick to Knoxville and become a Vol too.
Mackey
February 4th, 2010
4:15 am
Umm, drugs are bad, mmkay.
rg
February 4th, 2010
4:47 am
i recruited a blind hog,its time to find a acorn.
Lane Kiffen
February 4th, 2010
5:20 am
I did not lie……I did beat Georgia!
MVP
February 4th, 2010
5:21 am
The Mark Richt era is over.
GSUGA
February 4th, 2010
5:39 am
Well, if the we put so much value to the recruiting poll. Why do we play the games? Just fold up the tent and go fishing in the fall and save a lot of money.
Dawg Hatin' Jacket
February 4th, 2010
5:50 am
Sorry Mark, but there is no “verdict” yet. Try again four years from now.
Bubba
February 4th, 2010
5:53 am
‘The Mark Richt era is over.’
I guess the Jim Tressel era is over at Ohio State, since they finished behind Georgia. And the Frank Beamer era is over at Virginia Tech since they finished behind Georgia. And the Randy Shannon era is over at Miami since they finished behind Georgia. And, of course, the Paul Johnson era is over at Georgia Tech.
Spike
February 4th, 2010
6:28 am
UGA-30. ACC Champs-24.
Big time?? Not
February 4th, 2010
6:53 am
UGA Solid top 20 class and the world is coming to an end.
tech – no where near Top 20 and all is well.
Get a grip people.
raymond
February 4th, 2010
7:04 am
If UGA had a top ten class we would be talking about how high we ranked, but because we had a down year we talk about how much stars mean.
Cracker Jacket
February 4th, 2010
7:17 am
When can we rate the AJC sports writers?? Are you guys man enough???
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
February 4th, 2010
7:28 am
class is fine, we addressed the needs of the team, case closed. it all boils down to how these coaches “coach them up” and turn them into competivie athletes in the SEC & NCAA. interesting tid-bit i heard this morning on 680- the only 5 star ranking player playing in the SB is P.Manning. Just goes to show that rankings or stars don’t really mean much.
Paul Johnson's Johnson
February 4th, 2010
7:32 am
How do you pronounce the name Da’Rick? Is it Da Rick, like Da Bears? Or, is it Darrick, as in Harrick?
Oh, I need to be kissed.
how2fish
February 4th, 2010
7:37 am
I don’t think this class can be judged like previous ones due to its size..19 players we were 6th in the SEC with a 3.42 star rating. UT had 25 players and a average star rating of 3.44. Auburn had 32 players,UF had 28, LSU 29 and Bama 26. Time will tell folks and again good luck to all the new Dogs !
still443
February 4th, 2010
7:38 am
I really hate the ‘commit’ ‘de-commit’ ‘lie’ ‘change mind’, then mexican hat dance they all do when being recruited by more than one team. I say that if they sign a letter of intent with a university, make them sit out a full year if they change their mind… just like if they were already enrolled. That would stop this silliness and the underhanded things some schools and their boosters do to steal recruits.
how2fish
February 4th, 2010
7:39 am
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater I think they said he was the only Colt who was a 5 star ..pretty sure Reggie Bush for the Saints was not sure who else on the Saints but for the Colts only Manning.
JB
February 4th, 2010
7:43 am
For GT fans: ” I like to run the football. But, you gotta have balance today…Defenses are too good today to do only one thing good. a balanced attack works”
quote by New Tennessee Coach Derek Dooley. His dad hated the forward pass. I’m guessing Derek learned to be different……….Tech will win a lot of games in the ACC, but crunch time at the end with OOC BCS teams, that offense gets shut down. And when the FAB 5 are all gone that Gailey left, look out.
JB
February 4th, 2010
7:48 am
You really would think that this far in Paul Johnson would have a better showing than mid 40’s class, not that these ratings mean anything. You would think winning the ACC title that he would land a class in the 20’s. Just say’n.
Topp Dogg
February 4th, 2010
7:51 am
Robey saidweeks ago he would leave if Willie were to be fired.
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
February 4th, 2010
8:05 am
As a Georgia fan let me say this about PJ…He is a good coach. He is .500 against Georgia, he has improved Tech and taken them to a BCS game, I don’t care how bad the ACC is, it is still something and means over 10 million in money. As for his offense, hell I’d take it over what we a running right now. At least people worry about his offense. With Georgia I feel like I’m looking at a FSU re-run from 1985. No body looses sleep over Georgia’s offense, just their athletes.
GT, In Your Dreams
February 4th, 2010
8:14 am
Hey Patrick: 45-42! I notice that wasn’t on your list.
what has Georgia done since 1980..paul johnson
February 4th, 2010
8:14 am
i am usually critical of your articles MARK, this one was one of your better ones,, Georgia filled all their major needs , probably got some 2 and 3 star recruits that will have to worked hard, several will probably become very good if not great players after some hard work, and trust me Georgia is 1000 percent better off not to have gotten the DA Hick kid and have to babysit his ego for 4 or 5 years, not to mention he can’t catch a ball when footsteps are nearby……not getting some players can be a blessing too
how2fish
February 4th, 2010
8:17 am
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger I assure you GT will worry about our offence this year.And CPJ was a good coach he melted down latter part of last year and will hence forth be toast outside the ACC.
what has Georgia done since 1980..paul johnson
February 4th, 2010
8:20 am
and GT ….”a flagboy” is always in your Dreams…, the 45-42 fluke you are talking about when Georgia fell asleep for 2 quarters after 30 straight quarters of domination over the Jackettes , that game is still an enigma to us redneck dawgs, an anomaly so to speak for us cuntry folk….course at Thanksgiving we are still thankful the bugs are on the schedule , especially when we witnessed Caleb King run all over Bobby Dodd Field.. I just passed him barely , he is head north up I-75 now and one of your flagboys is chasing him..lmao..that’ll get running!!!
bruce seamans
February 4th, 2010
8:24 am
i know alot of people dont put much credence on star ratings of high school players. but the last six bcs national champions had top five recruiting classes. so there is some validity to the star rating system.
GT
February 4th, 2010
8:24 am
I have listened to old football players for years that are convinced a smart average athletic team can beat a selfish individually talented team. I never bought into the theory until lately, and thought college football was forever owned by pimp coaches like Jimmy Johnson and the gang bang element which maybe first showed up in Oklahoma and moved east with Johnson. It was only a matter of time before the academic element or the hoodlum element would prevail. Colleges would sell their souls for a football team filled with everything that education is supposed to be there to prevent or colleges would claim back their campuses and put the pimps back on the streets where they belong. Paul Johnson is a study in this theory that “one dog don’t make no show”. As long as we got that horse we don’t need to block as much or run our patterns as cleanly or play defense. Here is hoping CPJ has great success with his team and a few other guys like TCU that takes leftovers in football but character in life people and dares to compete against “Primetime” or “Hollywood” that have their own trainer on the sideline catering to his every need like valets to royalty. Maybe this is where we all get the idea teamwork is yesterday’s news not only in sports but every day life. Maybe we all should be pulling for the underdogs instead of being front runners associating ourselves with royalty that could care less about us or our teams.
The Dooleys of Knoxville, TN
February 4th, 2010
8:24 am
It’s gonna be okay, UGA. You got a very respectable class, and have some good stuff coming back next year. I, on the other hand, am very proud our boy Derek Dooley. What a great job he did to put Tennessee in the top 10 with only 3 weeks to recruit – oh, and assmeble a staff at the same time. Very proud of him!!! Hope he can get some rest and maybe play some golf with daddy Vince in beeeeeautiful Knoxville!!!!
if a Georgia fan teases you nerds..you punch em
February 4th, 2010
8:26 am
…in the face” Paul Johnson Said…..that goes for Georgia recruiting better too…if a georgia fan makes fun of my future baton twirlers You punch em in the face..paul johnson, ok coach..look forward to the annual thanksgiving state rivalry game..and you and your fans coming to dinner in Athens…course its just another game to your not one to engrave the score on your seniors rings or anything
UA Alum92
February 4th, 2010
8:27 am
For what it’s worth and from what I have seen of UGA, it seems that CMR’s and Bobo’s offensive strategy can be boiled down to “get the ball in the hands of your playmakers.” This is a viable strategy as long as you 1. Have multiple playmakers in case one is taken away (Stafford, Moreno, Massoquoi, etc.) and 2. Can get the ball to them (e.g. inability to utilize A.J. Green last year).
Thoughts?
Bryan
February 4th, 2010
8:28 am
You get paid for this crap? “Verdict on UGA, and Tech’s class?” 2 sentences on Tech and the rest about Georgia’s class plus all of it was what other people have said. Good article why did you just link us to the three sites that this whole article is from. Oh wait you did I will just go there. Great reporting AJC. IDIOTS
if a Georgia fan teases you nerds..you punch em
February 4th, 2010
8:28 am
and GT i actually agree with YOU nice writing, seriously
Mark Bradley
February 4th, 2010
8:30 am
I did link to the three sites, Bryan. That’s what those raised blue letters are. Thanks for asking.
Jesse Stone
February 4th, 2010
8:31 am
How sad that UGA fans are using a GT screen name to bash CPJ. In years past, UGA fans were proclaiming future Championships because of their superior recruiting classes. Now, all of a sudden they say the recruiting services don’t know what their talking about. Next year, should they have a stellar recruiting class, they’ll be touting the number of stars they have. Face it, CMR will have to prove that he does more than accumulate talent. He will now have to coach them up. Oh, and the guy that posted the novel at 1:06am has to be BuLLdawg.
if a Georgia fan teases you nerds..you punch em
February 4th, 2010
8:32 am
UA alum, last year was fairly bad in alot of areas for the dawgs, but the playmakers were starting to develop late in the year, witness Ealy and Caleb King..Marlon Brown played sparingly as a true freshman and several other receivers have develop..Green will have plenty of help in 2010 and a quarterback that can throw it where Green won’t have to risk the spectacular and get hurt
if a Georgia fan teases you nerds..you punch em
February 4th, 2010
8:32 am
UA alum, last year was fairly bad in alot of areas for the dawgs, but the playmakers were starting to develop late in the year, witness Ealy and Caleb King..Marlon Brown played sparingly as a true freshman and several other receivers have develop..Green will have plenty of help in 2010 and a quarterback that can throw it where Green won’t have to risk the spectacular and get hurt
Urban Meyer
February 4th, 2010
8:32 am
GT Fan – you better quit worrying about UGA and worry about how you are going to compete with Florida State. I hope you enjoyed your time at the Orange Bowl because you will probably not be going back based on the talent that is now going to Florida State. You will see a return to the top of the ACC by Florida State, which by definition, means you can only come in second or worse. Of course, that is soley based on you saying UGA and CMR should worry because of the recruiting rankings when GT has not see the top 10 ever in recruiting and will not during the tenure of CPJ and his option offense.
I think you might be better go ahead and plan to visit Boise a few times before you get back into the BCS….or if you ever get back to the BCS.
Jesse Stone
February 4th, 2010
8:35 am
It wasn’t the development of King and Ealy, it was your coaches dedication to the running game. Mark Mangino could’ve fit through some of those holes….sideways.
layinlow
February 4th, 2010
8:46 am
Robey said he would leave weeks ago if WM left. What did he think we were gonna keep WM to pacify him? lol. These recruits are absolutely delusional. Robey probably thought he was great enough to wield that kind of power. The midget will probably only end up being a punt or kick returner at SC. Good riddance because CTG defense calls for bigger physical corners anyway.
N.GA.DAWG
February 4th, 2010
8:47 am
Check back with me in 4 years and i will let you know who had the best class in 2010.
Bill
February 4th, 2010
8:57 am
Alot of fake GT fans..doing their thing.
Congrat to Coach Johnson for a good year and welcome recruits. I have all the respect in the world for CJ. Have at it…………………………
Congrat to Coach Richt for his recruiting class and best of luck to the Dawgs until they play GT.
Thanks Mark for all the info….in all Sports.
Up with the white and gold
February 4th, 2010
8:57 am
Urban Meyer – GT will not play Florida Stae until the 2013 sesaon. Get well soon.
WonderDawg
February 4th, 2010
8:59 am
Actually UA Alum92, I think Bobo doesn’t get the ball in the hands of playmakers enough. Brandon Smith is the fastest and most elusive player on the field at any time, kinda like UF’s former Percy Harvin. Whereas Myer created plays to get him the ball a dozen times per game, Smith probably handled the ball less than a dozen times all year. And usually he came trotting in to run a reverse, which EVERYONE knew was coming.
I love the DC choice, but think Richt will have to do the same thing offensively after this season to really turn the program around.
WonderDawg
February 4th, 2010
9:03 am
Didn’t know Jesse Stone was a Tech fan. Love those movies with Tom Selleck…
Mark Bradley
February 4th, 2010
9:04 am
As of now, Georgia has Alexander Ogletree listed as a linebacker. So I’ll go with that.
Roger Ramjet
February 4th, 2010
9:04 am
1 out of 9 is a fluke!!!!
30-24!!!
73-66!!!
Read it and whine. jackettes!!!!
Urban Meyer
February 4th, 2010
9:06 am
As of today I think I’ll be coaching next spring’s practice, unless I change my mind.
layinlow
February 4th, 2010
9:09 am
Bradley, there is a good chance his brother could end up at linebacker as well. Alec certainly has the frame to grow into a linebacker. And with Rambo and Hamilton we already have good talent at safety.
Urban Meyer
February 4th, 2010
9:12 am
Uh, maybe not ….
Richt's Butt Cut
February 4th, 2010
9:13 am
None of this means anything. All the recruiting hype is for the media to make money off of. The bottom line is if all these 2-4 star recruits are conditioned and coached properly, we will win games plain and simple.
2001, our class was 16 or whatever and 2002 ended up being a pretty good year for the Dawgs. It’s fun to talk about and I get just as excited/frustrated as everyone else but lets see what happens on the field. Looking forward to the GDay game.
georgia is slipping
February 4th, 2010
9:13 am
the losses to Tennessee and Kentucky hurt badly. it’s showing up in the shreveport bowl, and it’s showing up in the recruiting effort.
make all the excuses you want, denigrate GT all you want, deflect and criticize Rivals.com. Doesn’t change the fact that UGA is slipping.
robodawg
February 4th, 2010
9:24 am
Georgia dropped a spot for ADDING a player to its class? Where’s the logic in that?
Jesse Stone
February 4th, 2010
9:24 am
WonderDawg- In honor of the author, Robert B. Parker who died a couple of weeks ago.
layinlow
February 4th, 2010
9:25 am
I’m a UGA fan and I will give an honest assesment of CPJ. He is without a doubt the best coach at GT since Bobby Ross. He has done a good job and GT fans should be happy. However, some of you cross the line when you begin to mention his name and greatness. Come on, he has a long way to go before we can take it to that level. He has lost both bowl games as coach but I say wait until year 5 before you can really make a concrete judgement in that regard. But overall I would say the GT program is in pretty good hands.
I will also make an assessment of CMR. Early he had incredible success in both recruiting and results. There was talk of National championships and based on results that talk was prudent. However, UGA’s program has now slid closer to mediocrity than greatness. Richt is at a crossroads with the UGA program. Can he turns things around and get UGA back on top or will he become thee next Phil Fulmer? I believe the hiring of a new DC is a good start and if CTG can get the GATA back at UGA then Richt has a real chance to get us back on top.I also hope to see UGA pound teams with the running game like they did at the end of the season. A great defense and solid running game can take a team a long ways. Only time will tell if Richt can get things turned around.
Webster
February 4th, 2010
9:39 am
Urban Meyer, look whose talking! Why you telling GT to stop worrying about UGA, you need to worry about whether your even gonna coach next year ya sissy! I think Urban is heartbroken from losing his favorite boy friend qb Tim Tebow. Can I get an amen fellas!!? Lol
JoeFann
February 4th, 2010
9:39 am
You know, it’s funny. Everybody cries and moans like their heart’s broken. It’s Signing Day, folks. Just another Wednesday in February. Eventually, the sun WILL come out. UGA addressed needs and got quality athletes at important positions. The class was gonna be small due to scholarship limits. CMR gave D’Rs scholarship to a project with a great attitude that won’t count against us until he gets to campus. You’ve got to expect the coaching turmoil to have had an effect on a few defensive prospects, but other than D’R, who else that was strongly committed to UGA changed their mind? As I recall, the others were “considering” several schools, none with a strong verbal commitment. This class will be fine. Sometimes, these underated kids are like “pound puppies.” No pedigree, but they make the best, hardest working, loyal teammates. The “pure breds” are often temperamental and injury prone–high maintenance. I’ll take a hard hat, lunch pail crew every time.
I’m amazed at the CPJ bashing by Techsters. Here was a nondescript program in a second tier conference who was no longer looked at as a rival by the flagship in-state school. He’s brought passion, discipline and a conference championship in two years and you’re whining! Really? Admittedly, I think the spread option is even more faddish than the spread, and it certainly requires more specialized offensive athletes. So don’t be surprised if his recruiting targets are somewhat different than what the other BCS schools go after. Also, GTs limited academic majors will always be an issue. Only exceptional athletes will want to major in math or sciences, and there aren’t enough “general” or “liberal arts” degrees there to suit everyone. If you want to compare GTs recruiting rankings, then compare them to schools with similar requirements–Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford. CPJ is good for GT, and good for in-state football.
If you’re concerned about the efficacy of CPJs offense, consider this. It’s an offense very different from what most teams prepare for week in and week out. So different, and requiring so much defensive discipline, that teams struggle to get ready for it in one week. If you check CPJs record against BCS teams in either a season opener, a bowl game, or against a team with a bye week before (like UGA this year,) you’ll find that defenses with more than a week to prepare play much better against this offense. The offense works, but it requires specialized athletes and special circumstances to be consistently effective. That’s almost a gimmick, and I think it will deny GT the chance to compete at the highest level consistently.
Aside to “still443,” a commitment really isn’t. It’s only a verbal indication of which way the athlete is leaning, completely non-binding. Only when the LOI is signed and delivered (yesterday,) is the commitment real. I would, however, suggest that maybe the rules should be tweaked so that once a verbal commitment is made, other schools should be limited in their contact with the recruit. Of course, these are 17-18 yo kids, and they’re gonna change their minds. I would require that all kids take their “official” visits between the end of state football playoffs and a teams’ bowl game. If a kid makes a verbal commitment after that, no other on campus visits allowed, and other schools could only contact the kid electronically. The other side of the argument is that you want the kid to do what’s best for the kid, and not limit his choices. I could see both sides, but no system will be perfect.
BTW–I recall (back in the stone age) that when a coach left one school for another, coaches with integrity would not contact their former recruits unless they were already being recruited by their new school. My, how times change.
Go Dawgs!
Fans
February 4th, 2010
9:48 am
Each school offered for kids they wanted. A lot of those kids signed and are going to school on a free scholarship next year. Congratulations to those kids and best of luck. Congratulations to the schools for signing the kids they wanted (otherwise why would they have offered). This whole comparison about RECRUITING is ridiculous. It’s just a way to sell website access and magazines. The only people foolish enough to buy (literally) into the hype are the fans. So you people that make a big deal about this are just being self-delusional. No one knows what will happen with these kids. Some will pan out and others will disappoint. Some of you fans forget that these are teenagers for the most part, one foot into adulthood and a foot still in childhood. Some of the criticism on these blogs about these kids by supposedly grown men is pathetic.
Somebody had to say it, so I did.
Declining UGA
February 4th, 2010
10:02 am
Both UGA & GT were mostly hurt by the size of the classes they signed and in Tech’s case also because they signed a kicker which actually dropped them 7 spots according to Scout as soon as that was announced. NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS in a class is needed to break into the higher ranks. Tech’s recruits minus the Kicker were superior to Ole Miss’ class but they signed 28 to GT’s 18.
UGA was hindered by not having as many academic drop-outs, or jail sentences as the normal year. Richt cleaned up the police blotter (except where driver licenses are involved) and thus could not sign the usual large class of 25+. Thus, both programs had small recruiting classes which distorts their rankings.
Jesse Stone
February 4th, 2010
10:04 am
JoeFann- Those weren’t Tech fans bashing CPJ. They were UGA fans using one of many bogus screen names.
Dawg fan agrees
February 4th, 2010
10:16 am
georgia is slipping
February 4th, 2010
9:13 am
the losses to Tennessee and Kentucky hurt badly. it’s showing up in the shreveport bowl, and it’s showing up in the recruiting effort.
make all the excuses you want, denigrate GT all you want, deflect and criticize Rivals.com. Doesn’t change the fact that UGA is slipping.
Very true, but many of my fellow dawg friends here don’t want to beleive or admit it. It’s much easier to delve back into our trusty history books or Rivals archieves than to face the facts. But we have been slipping in football since the day we were named preseason number one (August 2008). It’s almost like we have been playing scared or “afraid to lose” instead steadily and methodically kicking people’s a$$es like Alabama of late. We need to get back to an offense that talks quitely but carries a big stick and the junkyard dawg defense that get’s going when the going gets tough. Hopefully Grantham and company can add that spark. Lastly, we need to lose the mouthy Georgia fans that bring out the st simons/yellow fuzz, Outback Auburn war Eagle, Bama Stan’s and Fla Gator’s, etc.
Paul in RDU
February 4th, 2010
10:36 am
layinlow @9:25 – excellent post, sir.
damail
February 4th, 2010
10:44 am
Hi Mark…only a casual reader…a DOG fan…only fan to be in Georgia…you seem to be all over the board when it comes to Georgia articles/comments…enjoy reading you though…thanks!
Paul in RDU
February 4th, 2010
10:45 am
JoeFann – I have to quibble with a couple of points in your, otherwise, excellent post.
UGA did not have an off week before winning the GT game in 2009. They had the off week in 2008 – the year they lost. This leads to my next point – perhaps one of the reasons for GT’s poor offensive showings in the bowl games (and some major miscues in the first game of the last 2 seasons) is that the offense requires precision and timing and they lose the edge without playing games.
LSU and Iowa (especially) played well on D and looked well prepared, but it takes 2 to tango.
Jeffro Bodeen
February 4th, 2010
10:51 am
Face it….5 star offensive players do not want to come to UGA because they know that after this next year, there will again be turmoil on the coaching staff. It’s only a matter of time before there is a loud and raucious call for the pink slip of Mike Bobo.Noone wants to come in now and face the possibility of an offensive philosophy shift so early in their careers. It’s a comin’ …..Oh yeah….It’s a comin!!!!
Walker
February 4th, 2010
11:17 am
Until Paul Johnson can win a bowl game and beat above .500 teams ooc he’s not all that. Until the ACC champion can win BCS bowls the ACC will continue to be percieved as cupcake central and nothing that happens there during the season means much. 9-3 and 10-2 got GT nothing but beat at season’s end 2 years in a row.
juvenal
February 4th, 2010
11:27 am
MB, if we’re getting stopped at the line next year, do you think we have a real option qb that can come in?
Walker
February 4th, 2010
11:27 am
JoeFann judging from the Liberal Arts programs offered at Tech below I don’t think you can play the limited majors card. That dog stopped hunting long ago.
Ivan Allen College of Liberal Arts
Economics
BS: Economics
BS: Economics & International Affairs **
BS: Economics & International Affairs – Int’l Designator **
BS: Global Economics & Modern Languages **
MS: with a Major in Economics
History, Technology, & Society
BS: History, Technology, and Society
BS: History, Technology, and Society – Int’l Designator
MS: History and Sociology of Technology & Science
PhD: with a Major in History and Sociology of Technology & Science
International Affairs
BS: International Affairs
BS: International Affairs – Int’l Designator
BS: International Affairs & Modern Languages **
BS: Economics & International Affairs **
BS: Economics & International Affairs – Int’l Designator **
MS: International Affairs
PhD: International Affairs, Science and Technology
Literature, Communication, & Culture
BS: Computational Media
BS: Science, Technology, and Culture
BS: Science, Technology, and Culture – Biomedicine & Culture Option
BS: Science, Technology, and Culture – Gender Studies Option
BS: Science, Technology, and Culture – Media Option
BS / MS: Literature, Communication, & Culture (5 Year)
MS: Human-Computer Interaction **
MS: Information Design and Technology
PhD: with a Major in Digital Media
Modern Languages
BS: International Affairs & Modern Languages **
BS: International Affairs & Modern Languages – Int’l Designator **
BS: Global Economics & Modern Languages **
BS: Global Economics & Modern Languages – Int’l Designator **
Public Policy ****
BS: Public Policy
BS / MS: Public Policy (5 Year)
MS: Public Policy
PhD: with a Major in Public Policy
Reserve Officer’s Training Corps (ROTC)
Air Force Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC)
Army Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC)
Navy Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC)
College of Management
Management
BS: Management
BS: Management – Int’l Designator – Option 1
BS: Management – Int’l Designator – Option 2
FRED
February 4th, 2010
11:52 am
There are a lot of you people whistling through thr grave yard. wake up people we (UGA) are not growing our program. And you would see it if you would open your eyes. CMR is the new Bobby Bowden the college game has passed him buy at least Bowden was 80 years old. Look, people we all respect CMR he is a find man and god knows we need more of his type in this world today. however we must decide if we want a wonderful man leading our program down to mediocrity or if we want a winner. Me personally i want a winner how about you?
juvenal
February 4th, 2010
11:53 am
the above are all B.S. degrees,& require at least some math, unlike B.A(liberal arts) degrees, which Tech does not grant-that is why GT is not a university…
It is "over" at these schools - soon enough
February 4th, 2010
12:26 pm
SC- Spurrier has the seasoned QB and the running back to win big this season. He is on an “alum watch” if he does not win and win big this year. W.O. the frosh back, SC had another poor to fair signing class and the alums are watching him in 2010 w. or w.o that back. He iwll be gone by 2011.
UT- Yes, UT. Derek was bought in to demonstrate “institutional integrity” and to show that “UT has a handle” on the problems there that Blame left them with. Why else was Dooley brought in? What has he done for ANY school? Unfortunately, cruel fate with the Nash kid and his meddling $$ car daddy may in fact bring more bad news, as far as the NCAA scrutiny goes. This is gasoline on a fire that was left smoldering by Blame. It will get worse by summertime.
Florida- Yes, FLORIDA. Urban is very likely puffing up his bed pillow right now at the Florida Central State Rehab facility in Perry, Florida. He will be seeking peace and quiet and peace and quiet and peace and quiet. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh Urban needs to take a long, long rest. He will not be around this fall. Shhhhhhhhhhhh , do not wake the man.
KY has a new coach in Joker Phillips and we all know how that can go. That lelaves UGA in the East and we will be just fine. Our O will roll over most teams this year. Our D will be on the attack. The D will easily add two or three wins to UGA’s 8 win season in 2010.
This leaves LSU where the fans want Les MIles gone unless he wins it all in 2010 and Arkansas where Bobby did not recruit well and when Malllett leaves …so will Bobby.
Mississippi State and Ole Miss are always what they are. That leaves Auburn with all the soon to come NCAA recruiting scrutiny and then Bama. Saban bolts in January 2011 when he wins his second NC title there. He will be gone and Alabama will be re building ………….. yet again.
Looks good for my dawgs, as we are the only really stable program right now in the SEC. Tech? CPJ will be gone in 1.5 years, as ALL of his 8?? predecssors there leave or get dumped after 4.5 years and he is in his third season. Gulp for tech fans or maybe not.
You heard it here first.
We Ruin This State
February 4th, 2010
5:52 pm
Wow, UGA is really lucky that Da’Rick went to TN. What was Richt thinking ? This could have been a disaster. If DaRick had accepted
the whole year would have been a diaster. CMR needs to thank the coaching staff at TN for taking this guy off his hands.
Wreckmaniac
February 4th, 2010
5:53 pm
Its a lot easier to laugh at these rating services than it is to take them seriously.
Jared
February 5th, 2010
11:14 am
There was a time earlier in the week that GT had the exact same class as Miami, I think, but had one more 3 star player. That 3 star brought their average star rating down and therefore they were ranked lower than Miami for having one more 3 star player, everything else being equal. That’s ridiculous enough for me to never focus on recruiting class rankings ever again.
I think the services probably do a good job of giving ballpark estimations of talent and are probably right more than they are wrong on an individual basis. But their compiled rankings are a joke. A recruiting class is too subjective. Fill your needs with the amount of schollies available and go on about your business. I feel GT did that this year (and last) so I’m prett happy and looking forward to a bumper crop of dual-threat QB’s and stout RB’s for the 2011 class.
jborodawg
February 8th, 2010
12:32 pm
I think most of the analyses by the ’services’ are correct, as is M.B. Not a stellar result and who else to blame but CMR and CRG. When we have a ‘down’ year, we tend to poo-poo the rankings. On ‘up years’, they’re spot-on. Yes, it’s a crap shoot; ya never know until they strap up; and then evaluate that particular class when they’re seniors. We get way too excited, even mesmerized, by recruits and signing day.
There are also studies showing the top recruiting teams tend to be top finishers in the polls; not 100% accurate but fairly accurate for the most part. See Flawduh, Bama, Texas, USC, Ohio St, etc….even UGA with top 20 teams the last few years, along with top 20 recruiting. So, recruiting does matter.
On the other hand, ya got ur Cincy, S.Fla, Louisville, Utah, Boise St, TCU etc.
CMR says we got players with ‘character’ and who wanted to be Bulldogs…and that’s important too. We went for D this year and loaded up; that’s good too cause ‘ya win with D’.
So, I’m disappointed we din get Rogers and Thornton, which would’ve gotten us into the top 10. On the other hand, we did pretty good filling needs on the D side of the ball. Not stellar, but acceptable. Definitely not ‘disastrous’. Worrisome to the extent that we shouldn’t let it happen again next year. Otherwise, we’re okay.