Two springs ago we wondered if the Hawks could keep from being swept by Boston. At issue this night is whether the Hawks can sweep Boston. Yes, there’s a difference — those were the playoffs, and this is the regular season — but any graph of the local team’s climb from sub-.500 to near-sublime must include a pushpin for those 15 days in 2008.
In their heart of hearts, the Hawks were probably hoping to win one game. They won three, all at Philips Arena, each more improbable than before. They won Game 3 and the Celtics ran out to a huge lead in Game 4, as if to say, “Order is being restored to nature.” But the Hawks won that night, too, and four nights later they were back at home, this time facing elimination.
Again the Celtics took an early lead. Again the Hawks outfought them down the stretch. (The home side scored on 17 consecutive possessions, which isn’t just good — it’s obscene.) And even if that strangely rousing series ended with a blowout loss in TD Banknorth Garden, it was clear that something had changed in the A-T-L. We had ourselves a basketball team again.
Last season Mike Woodson said it 25, maybe 50 times: “The Celtics taught us how to play playoff basketball.” But it was more than that. From beating the Celtics — who would go on to become NBA champs — three times in the spring of ‘08, the Hawks realized that they were capable of playing not just basketball but inspired basketball. They were tough enough and talented enough to hang in, at least at home, against the absolute best.
And now they’ve stamped themselves as among the best. They were tied for the lead in the NBA Southeast entering Friday night’s game and stood only a half-game behind the imperial C’s for second place in the East. The Hawks have gone from 37-45 in 2007-2008 to 47-35 last season and were on pace to go 54-28 this time. They placed two players on the All-Star roster, should have a third and could have had a fourth.
They’ve gotten so good so fast that they have attracted imitators. Oklahoma City and Portland are trying to do as the Hawks have done, which is to accumulate as much young talent as possible and give it room to grow. And now it’s Boston, which was 4-0 against the Hawks in the 2008-2009 regular season, that’s having to address speculation about being too old to fend off this young usurper.
Or, as was the case after the Hawks beat the Celtics on Jan. 11, not to address it. Were the Hawks, a reporter asked Glen Davis, in the C’s collective head? “Next question,” Big Baby sniffed.
Sweeps don’t really mean much unless they come in postseason, but just being 3-0 and in position to put the ol’ broom to the pride of Beantown offered yet another gauge on these Hawks. No, Kevin Garnett didn’t play in two of the three losses, but he played in the first meeting — Nov. 13 up there — and the vistors won by 11. (Besides, we all know the Big Ticket wants no part of the big Zaza. Yes, I’m kidding.)
It was two springs ago that Boston taught the Hawks how to play playoff basketball, and no one, the Celtics least of all, could have known how apt and ambitious their pupils would prove. The Green People now seem yesterday’s men — they were outscored 35-22 in the fourth quarter of a two-point loss in Orlando on Thursday — while more and more the Hawks seem the team of tomorrow. And maybe today.
And with that, I’ll open the floor to questions, comments and Tweets from Spirit the Hawk. (Remember him?) I’ll be chatting until game’s end, and I welcome your company.
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Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
9:51 pm
Alan, I’d agree with you in theory. But I’d also point out that the Celtics played in Orlando last night. That’s two road games against two really strong opponents. That’s the NBA sometimes.
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
9:51 pm
I hope not, Ree Roe. But I have to say the notion has crossed my mind.
Alan
January 29th, 2010
9:52 pm
The same will happen again. We will win this game close and then get blown out against Orlando. Hey Mark do you think a team that plays 4 more back to back games in a season has an unfair advantage than a team that doesn’t? The team that doesn’t is the cavs. We play 4 more back to back than them. I think it’s 21 for us and 17 for them. I def know we play 4 more than they do. I looked it up 2 weeks ago and thought that was strange.
BobRathbun
January 29th, 2010
9:52 pm
Ball movement guys-get inside!
BoricuaHawkFan
January 29th, 2010
9:54 pm
Along with Alan’s question, how about a team that clearly plays less AWAY games in the first 1/2 of the season. Lakers only had 5 travel games when some were already in double digits.
BoricuaHawkFan
January 29th, 2010
9:55 pm
HUGE shot by Marv!!!
Alan
January 29th, 2010
9:56 pm
How did your response come before (time wise) my post? LOL
I wasn’t talking about the celts. I know they played last night. I was referring to the Cavs. We play 4 more back to back games than they do. Seems unfair to me. I don’t know what the celtics and magic have. I’ve seen this story before against the celts i believe where we play and beat them and then go to orlando and get blown out
norcrossfan
January 29th, 2010
9:57 pm
not sure why woodosn doesn’t try to open it up and run the celts (or anyone for that matter) ragged…
mmgtfan
January 29th, 2010
9:57 pm
STOP SHOOTING JUMPERS JOSH!!!!!!
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
9:58 pm
I’m psychic, Alan. Or psychotic. I forget which.
Alan
January 29th, 2010
9:58 pm
Man my posts never show up sometimes. Mark, I wasn’t talking about the celts. I was referring to the Cavs and us having to play 4 more back to back games than they do. I don’t know about the celts or magic. I just hope this isn’t like the last time we had the celtics at home and orl on the road.
BobRathbun
January 29th, 2010
9:58 pm
I have the smoothest voice and best lines in NBA Broadcasting…and Joe is STILL EnFuego…
todd grantham
January 29th, 2010
9:58 pm
Mark, they cant ALL be knee-slappers..
todd grantham
January 29th, 2010
9:59 pm
esp or editing?
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:00 pm
Exactly like that, Alan. Don’t go protesting, though. David Stern will just ignore it.
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:00 pm
Killshot. Crawford banks in a 20-footer. (Yes, banks in.) And gets hit and makes the free throw. Hawks by 11.
Lisa
January 29th, 2010
10:00 pm
This is one of those times I want to slap JJ in the back of the head and remind him that he has team mates! We know he is an All Star but dog. As coach, making shots or not he would be sitting by me. His team makes him look good every night but yet he disrespects them. This is our biggest issue as the offence stops when the ball is in JJ’s hands. This problem is all about coaching. FIRE WOODY!!!
Alan
January 29th, 2010
10:01 pm
Whoops. I see it now. I guess your posting clock isn’t working. LOL. Like the shot clock when the hawks played in cleveland.
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:01 pm
I have that same feeling sometimes, Lisa. But Joe has grown accustomed to taking the big shots the past four years, and he’s making them tonight.
BobRathbun
January 29th, 2010
10:02 pm
Just who is that monotone PA Announcer who drones on “Let’s Go Hawks, Let’s Go Hawks”, and “De-fense, de-fense”…his voice is NOWHERE as smooth as mine…
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:03 pm
The announcer is Mr. Ryan Cameron of V-103.
Pepe
January 29th, 2010
10:03 pm
Joe took over to get the lead back under control…if your hitting them, keep shooting!
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:04 pm
Down to six. Pierce with 32.
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:04 pm
Joe goes one-on-five and misses.
Alan
January 29th, 2010
10:04 pm
Bad shot by Joe. Never left his hands
J.J.M.
January 29th, 2010
10:05 pm
man hawks better not choke
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:05 pm
Crawford steal and jam. Hawks by nine. Over.
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:05 pm
Wallace makes a free throw. Hawks by five, 1:34 to go.
Lisa
January 29th, 2010
10:06 pm
Mark, I get you but for every difficult missed shot at least three of his team mates are open with a higher percentage shot. And that is just good basketball IQ.
Alan
January 29th, 2010
10:06 pm
Mark you should do a column that discusses the fair and unfair advantages of the way some schedules set up. Like the cavs getting 4 less back to back games than the hawks.
J.J.M.
January 29th, 2010
10:06 pm
why cant we get crawford to drive and dish of to josh for an easy dunk im pretty sure it will work
NRBQ
January 29th, 2010
10:06 pm
There’s the Joe we know and love. Dribble from one side of the key to the other and miss the jumper.
Never mind the other talented Hawks on the floor.
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:07 pm
Joe makes a banker over Pierce.
J.J.M.
January 29th, 2010
10:08 pm
woooooooooooooo hooooooooooo
Ree Roe
January 29th, 2010
10:08 pm
Jamal!!!
-REEcently Roe!!!
NRBQ
January 29th, 2010
10:08 pm
Thanks for the rescue, Jamaal.
Pepe
January 29th, 2010
10:09 pm
Make some NOISE!!!
Dandy Don
January 29th, 2010
10:09 pm
Turn out the lights the parties over
NRBQ
January 29th, 2010
10:09 pm
Boy, I want my son to be just like Rasheed!
Ree Roe
January 29th, 2010
10:09 pm
Lol @ the announcer “Is it a rivalry now?” I guess it’s not a rivalry till they beat us, lol!
-REEcently Roe!!!!
todd grantham
January 29th, 2010
10:21 pm
Mark, are you sure the PA guy isnt Brook Whitmire?
tiger woo
January 29th, 2010
10:21 pm
Joe Johnson – 16 points in the 4th Quarter !! Iso – Joe !!
Take that !!
You're All Gay
January 29th, 2010
10:22 pm
The Celtics look OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pepe
January 29th, 2010
10:26 pm
Todd – How do you know Brook Whitmire (HHS Grad, UGA Announcer)?
todd grantham
January 29th, 2010
10:31 pm
Brook and i go way back pepe
Pepe
January 29th, 2010
10:44 pm
Just curious…didn’t know if Whitmire’s announcing skills were common knowledge. I haven’t seen that guys since the mid-late 90’s. Good ole Coach Whitmire.
Be aggressive this fall Todd…
Mark Bradley
January 29th, 2010
10:53 pm
Here, if you’re so inclined, is the game column.
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