Live from Hawks-C’s: Can apt pupils sweep aging teachers?

Two springs ago we wondered if the Hawks could keep from being swept by Boston. At issue this night is whether the Hawks can sweep Boston. Yes, there’s a difference — those were the playoffs, and this is the regular season — but any graph of the local team’s climb from sub-.500 to near-sublime must include a pushpin for those 15 days in 2008.

In their heart of hearts, the Hawks were probably hoping to win one game. They won three, all at Philips Arena, each more improbable than before. They won Game 3 and the Celtics ran out to a huge lead in Game 4, as if to say, “Order is being restored to nature.” But the Hawks won that night, too, and four nights later they were back at home, this time facing elimination.

Again the Celtics took an early lead. Again the Hawks outfought them down the stretch. (The home side scored on 17 consecutive possessions, which isn’t just good — it’s obscene.) And even if that strangely rousing series ended with a blowout loss in TD Banknorth Garden, it was clear that something had changed in the A-T-L. We had ourselves a basketball team again.

Last season Mike Woodson said it 25, maybe 50 times: “The Celtics taught us how to play playoff basketball.” But it was more than that. From beating the Celtics — who would go on to become NBA champs — three times in the spring of ‘08, the Hawks realized that they were capable of playing not just basketball but inspired basketball. They were tough enough and talented enough to hang in, at least at home, against the absolute best.

And now they’ve stamped themselves as among the best. They were tied for the lead in the NBA Southeast entering Friday night’s game and stood only a half-game behind the imperial C’s for second place in the East. The Hawks have gone from 37-45 in 2007-2008 to 47-35 last season and were on pace to go 54-28 this time. They placed two players on the All-Star roster, should have a third and could have had a fourth.

They’ve gotten so good so fast that they have attracted imitators. Oklahoma City and Portland are trying to do as the Hawks have done, which is to accumulate as much young talent as possible and give it room to grow. And now it’s Boston, which was 4-0 against the Hawks in the 2008-2009 regular season, that’s having to address speculation about being too old to fend off this young usurper.

Or, as was the case after the Hawks beat the Celtics on Jan. 11, not to address it. Were the Hawks, a reporter asked Glen Davis, in the C’s collective head? “Next question,” Big Baby sniffed.

Sweeps don’t really mean much unless they come in postseason, but just being 3-0 and in position to put the ol’ broom to the pride of Beantown offered yet another gauge on these Hawks. No, Kevin Garnett didn’t play in two of the three losses, but he played in the first meeting — Nov. 13 up there — and the vistors won by 11. (Besides, we all know the Big Ticket wants no part of the big Zaza. Yes, I’m kidding.)

It was two springs ago that Boston taught the Hawks how to play playoff basketball, and no one, the Celtics least of all, could have known how apt and ambitious their pupils would prove. The Green People now seem yesterday’s men — they were outscored 35-22 in the fourth quarter of a two-point loss in Orlando on Thursday — while more and more the Hawks seem the team of tomorrow. And maybe today.

And with that, I’ll open the floor to questions, comments and Tweets from Spirit the Hawk. (Remember him?) I’ll be chatting until game’s end, and I welcome your company.

250 comments Add your comment

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:17 pm

No, I’m not going to the UGA game.

Buzz

January 29th, 2010
9:18 pm

Mark, what are the chances that GT loses to Kentucky State tomorrow? They are unranked you know.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
9:18 pm

Three teams bunched behind Cleveland in the East. Of the three I like the Hawks chances.

The Dude

January 29th, 2010
9:19 pm

Kentucky State is coached by Mo Moore… they’re DII. No chance Tech loses, Buzz.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:20 pm

Zaza and Garnett almost got into it.

As it is, Celtics hanging around. Down by eight.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
9:21 pm

On June 25, 2009, Jamal Crawford was traded to the Atlanta Hawks for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton

Who got the better of that deal?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:22 pm

I’m thinking … Hawks by a nose, Elmore.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:22 pm

Crawford with 23 points, six assists.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
9:23 pm

ZaZa vs Garnett Steel cage match

Who you got?

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:23 pm

Getting tighter. Rasheed’s trey pares it to six.

The Dude

January 29th, 2010
9:24 pm

Hahaha… good call Elmore. Crawford was probably the best addition any team made in the off-season.

todd grantham

January 29th, 2010
9:24 pm

it seems a very fine on-going story of the cinderella UGA basketball team is being rather ignored in the AJC. an observation, not a criticism.

J.J.M.

January 29th, 2010
9:25 pm

wow kg clearly was laying out of bounce touching the ball

Tron5000

January 29th, 2010
9:26 pm

I want to see Josh block some All-Stars like chumps.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:26 pm

Another wild sequence. Zaza hits the floor. Looked like Garnett knocked him down. Foul’s on Zaza. Also a tech.

Pepe

January 29th, 2010
9:28 pm

The ball was out on KG…how’s Zaza called for anything?

todd grantham

January 29th, 2010
9:28 pm

am i’m still t’d about the pic.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
9:28 pm

it seems a very fine on-going story of the cinderella UGA basketball team is being rather ignored in the AJC. an observation, not a criticism.

I think they have covered it. Fox is off to a nice start. Ultimately it comes down to one word

Recruiting

The Dude

January 29th, 2010
9:29 pm

FML the snow knocked out all the cable…

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:30 pm

According to Hawks publicist Arthur Triche, Zaza got the tech for grabbing the ref’s arm trying to explain himself. Automatic T.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:31 pm

Down to three. And the game has deteriorated. Guys getting clobbered on every possession. Refs trying to take control of the game, but I’m afraid they’ve wasted that chance.

The Dude

January 29th, 2010
9:32 pm

Without being able to see, sounds like we must have some female referees tonight.

The Dude

January 29th, 2010
9:33 pm

I’m glad I’m not watching, Mark. What’s the deal?

La Jolla Dawg

January 29th, 2010
9:35 pm

I am actually watching the game on NBA TV and the announcers (Wilkins and Rathbun) won’t stop talking. It is annoying.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:35 pm

No female refs. But not a stellar crew. And the Celtics have slowed and uglied up the game, and the Hawks are now getting frustrated with the refs and each other.

todd grantham

January 29th, 2010
9:35 pm

Mark, i thought arthur triche was the fish and chips guy?

Eddy

January 29th, 2010
9:36 pm

Pathetic 3rd qtr. Hope they play better in the 4th. Lost the what, 11-12 point lead down to 1

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:36 pm

Crawford misses at the third quarter buzzer. Celtics within a point. Hawks got away from what they were doing and went back to watching Joe Johnson pound the ball on the perimeter.

The Dude

January 29th, 2010
9:36 pm

Hey Todd, pass-rushing linebackers are going to be at a premium in GA with Grantham at UoG and Groh at GIT. I’m curious to see if schools outside of GA (TN, AU) will struggle to pull linebackers from GA.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:37 pm

Arthur Treacher was the fish and chips guy.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:40 pm

Hawks are in trouble. They’re standing around.

sasha

January 29th, 2010
9:40 pm

I love basketball and I wish I could pay it.I love the hawks I think thier the best time every.You guys rock so mush I want to come to your concert.I wish I was at the playoff.I love you hawks!

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:42 pm

Hawks up three, 8:45 left. If I’m Woodson, I’m really nervous. His team let the Celtics back in it, and now the game’s going according to the Celtics’ pace. Hawks had 53 points in the first half. They have 80 now.

NRBQ

January 29th, 2010
9:43 pm

Mark:

Hawks are in trouble cause they have a couple guys who disdain the pass.

Won’t mention any names, but one’s initials are J.J.

Alan

January 29th, 2010
9:45 pm

And the calls are all going the celtics way. What a joke

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:46 pm

Celts shot 20 free throws in the third. Hawks have 24 in the game.

NRBQ

January 29th, 2010
9:47 pm

I rest my case.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:47 pm

Joe hits a three. No movement on the play, but he made the shot.

mmgtfan

January 29th, 2010
9:47 pm

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:48 pm

And now Joe with a fadeaway. He’s going one-on-one (or one-on-five), but he has hit three baskets in the quarter. Hawks by eight.

BobRathbun

January 29th, 2010
9:48 pm

Joe EnFuego!

mmgtfan

January 29th, 2010
9:48 pm

someones getting hot

Miami man

January 29th, 2010
9:48 pm

The celts are gonna melt when they play the heat

Pepe

January 29th, 2010
9:49 pm

Joe Johnson for Threeeeeeeeeee!!!! I love that annoucer for the hometown 3’s.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
9:49 pm

Johnson has scored Hawks last 9 points

Ree Roe

January 29th, 2010
9:50 pm

Joe’s been unbelievable so far in the 4th (visions of Game 4 vs. BOS in 08), but Mark, do you think this 1 on 1 spree is a reflection of Joe tryin to reassert himself as alpha dog on the team?

-REEcently Roe?

NRBQ

January 29th, 2010
9:50 pm

And he makes a 2.

But ultimately, how many times per game do they leave him unguarded?

Makes no difference to him.

Mark Bradley

January 29th, 2010
9:50 pm

The good news: Joe’s making shots. The not-so-good: He’s the only one taking any shots.

BoricuaHawkFan

January 29th, 2010
9:50 pm

The Hawks have finally become the team I always wished they were…yes, I’ve been a fan since the 80’s and even through the 13-game winning season. Well rounded, deep bench and a go-to guy that you can ALWAYS count on. Say hello to my little Joe! It’s Joe time.

Elmore Spencer

January 29th, 2010
9:50 pm

Bibby not getting many minutes tonight